Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Video editing help

From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 10:12:47 -0500

I use the built-in editor in Windows to clip my dashcam videos.  It
does work with MP4.  It shows a "timeline" of the movie file or clip,
and you can select points to trim the start and end points.

Windows Live Movie Maker - you may need to install it as an "app".

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 7:25 AM <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> I know this isn't 100% shop talk related, but stick with me.
>
> I am an instructor in the Army and I often have to use clips from movies and other video training aids.
>
> Problem is, many of these 2 or 3 minute clips are embedding in 1 or 2 hour videos.  Meaning I spend lots of time finding the actually beginning of a clip and such.
>
> Also, now that we are doing more virtual training, I would love to be able to send out the videos so students can watch them locally, but I can't send 1 gig files.
>
> I am looking for a video editor that can 'crop' videos files.  These are often compressed files (.mp4) so I understand that I may have to have some 'extra' footage that the beginning, and that is fine.
>
> But what I see is often I have to wait for the entire play length to save the cropped file.
>
> Is there an editor out that that can quickly and easily crop video files?  Bonus if it's free.
>
> Thanks!
>
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When you say "crop" I hear: reduce the viewing area of the video, or reduce=
 the image size (in pixels).

If you want to reduce the length of the video, I would call that "Trim" or =
at least that's what it's called in Quicktime Player on my Mac. The free Qu=
icktime cannot crop, but it can trim. I'm sure you can find it for Winderz.
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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Video editing help

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 7:25 AM <[email-masked]> wrote:
> I am an instructor in the Army and I often have to use clips from movies =
and other video training aids.
>
> Problem is, many of these 2 or 3 minute clips are embedding in 1 or 2 hou=
r videos.  Meaning I spend lots of time finding the actually beginning of a=
 clip and such.
>
> Also, now that we are doing more virtual training, I would love to be abl=
e to send out the videos so students can watch them locally, but I can't se=
nd 1 gig files.
>
> I am looking for a video editor that can 'crop' videos files.  These are =
often compressed files (.mp4) so I understand that I may have to have some =
'extra' footage that the beginning, and that is fine.
>
> But what I see is often I have to wait for the entire play length to save=
 the cropped file.
>
> Is there an editor out that that can quickly and easily crop video files?=
  Bonus if it's free.
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shcam videos.&nbsp; It<br>
does work with MP4.&nbsp; It shows a &quot;timeline&quot; of the movie file=
 or clip,<br>
and you can select points to trim the start and end points.<br>
<br>
Windows Live Movie Maker - you may need to install it as an &quot;app&quot;=
.<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt; I know this isn't 100% shop talk related, but stick with me.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I am an instructor in the Army and I often have to use clips from movi=
es and other video training aids.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Problem is, many of these 2 or 3 minute clips are embedding in 1 or 2 =
hour videos.&nbsp; Meaning I spend lots of time finding the actually beginn=
ing of a clip and such.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Also, now that we are doing more virtual training, I would love to be =
able to send out the videos so students can watch them locally, but I can't=
 send 1 gig files.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I am looking for a video editor that can 'crop' videos files.&nbsp; Th=
ese are often compressed files (.mp4) so I understand that I may have to ha=
ve some 'extra' footage that the beginning, and that is fine.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; But what I see is often I have to wait for the entire play length to s=
ave the cropped file.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Is there an editor out that that can quickly and easily crop video fil=
es?&nbsp; Bonus if it's free.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks!<br>
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I have a Windows app called "Video Editor" that was free from the app 
store.  Checking now, it looks to be part of Microsoft Photos. If you 
are on Windows, check you program list for "Photos" and open it.  If you 
are similarly updated, you will see a tab for "Video Editor".

I "clip" videos into segments then delete the undesired segments. Works 
fairly well.  Save format is only mp4 I believe, but that is near 
universal.  You have a choice of save resolutions.

I share stuff too big to e-mail to a Google Docs folder.

Brian

On 11/20/2022 4:02 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
> Problem is, many of these 2 or 3 minute clips are embedding in 1 or 2 
> hour videos.  Meaning I spend lots of time finding the actually 
> beginning of a clip and such.
>
> Also, now that we are doing more virtual training, I would love to be 
> able to send out the videos so students can watch them locally, but I 
> can't send 1 gig files.
>
> I am looking for a video editor that can 'crop' videos files.  These 
> are often compressed files (.mp4) so I understand that I may have to 
> have some 'extra' footage that the beginning, and that is fine.
>
> Moose
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    I have a Windows app called "Video Editor" that was free from the
    app store.  Checking now, it looks to be part of Microsoft Photos. 
    If you are on Windows, check you program list for "Photos" and open
    it.  If you are similarly updated, you will see a tab for "Video
    Editor".  <br>
    <br>
    I "clip" videos into segments then delete the undesired segments. 
    Works fairly well.  Save format is only mp4 I believe, but that is
    near universal.  You have a choice of save resolutions.<br>
    <br>
    I share stuff too big to e-mail to a Google Docs folder.<br>
    <br>
    Brian<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/20/2022 4:02 AM,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:[email-masked]">
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      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">I know this isn't 100% shop talk
        related,
        but stick with me.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">I am an instructor in the Army
        and I
        often have to use clips from movies and other video training
        aids.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Problem is, many of these 2 or 3
        minute
        clips are embedding in 1 or 2 hour videos.  Meaning I spend lots
        of
        time finding the actually beginning of a clip and such.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Also, now that we are doing more
        virtual
        training, I would love to be able to send out the videos so
        students can
        watch them locally, but I can't send 1 gig files.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">I am looking for a video editor
        that
        can 'crop' videos files.  These are often compressed files
        (.mp4)
        so I understand that I may have to have some 'extra' footage
        that the beginning,
        and that is fine.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">But what I see is often I have to
        wait
        for the entire play length to save the cropped file.  </font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Is there an editor out that that
        can
        quickly and easily crop video files?  Bonus if it's free.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Thanks!</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Moose</font>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset>
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I use the Windows Photo app - will open the movie and then allow you to 
whiz through and find where you want to trim and save as a new file.

Neil

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With a Mac mini in my shop, I've been using iMovie to edit videos, largely
church services for YouTube, but personal stuff too.

You can also use the GoPro Quik app to do video editing, and that's both
Windows and Mac.

If you're making these videos available for remote viewers, you should look
at hosting them somewhere. You may be able to use something like YouTube if
there aren't any copyright issues. I don't know if YouTube would treat them
differently if they were unlisted (and you are sending out the link). There
are also Rumble, Vimeo, and if use the right version of Office 365, you may
be able to use their Stream platform.

-Peter

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> Problem is, many of these 2 or 3 minute clips are embedding in 1 or 2 hour
> videos.  Meaning I spend lots of time finding the actually beginning of a
> clip and such.
>
> Also, now that we are doing more virtual training, I would love to be able
> to send out the videos so students can watch them locally, but I can't send
> 1 gig files.
>
> I am looking for a video editor that can 'crop' videos files.  These are
> often compressed files (.mp4) so I understand that I may have to have some
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<div dir=3D"ltr">With=C2=A0a Mac mini in my shop, I&#39;ve been using iMovi=
e to edit videos, largely church services for YouTube, but personal stuff t=
oo.<div><br></div><div>You can also use the GoPro Quik app to do video edit=
ing, and that&#39;s both Windows and Mac.</div><div><br></div><div>If you&#=
39;re making these videos available for remote viewers, you should look at =
hosting them somewhere. You may be able to use something like YouTube if th=
ere aren&#39;t any copyright issues. I don&#39;t know if YouTube would trea=
t them differently if they were unlisted (and you are sending out the link)=
. There are also Rumble, Vimeo, and if use the right version of Office 365,=
 you may be able to use their Stream platform.</div><div><br></div><div>-Pe=
ter</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 1:14 PM Neil Sherry &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
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    <p>I use the Windows Photo app - will open the movie and then allow
      you to whiz through and find where you want to trim and save as a
      new file.</p>
    <p>Neil<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 20/11/2022 12:02, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>
      wrote:<br>
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     =20
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I know this isn&#39;t 100% shop =
talk
        related,
        but stick with me.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I am an instructor in the Army
        and I
        often have to use clips from movies and other video training
        aids.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Problem is, many of these 2 or 3
        minute
        clips are embedding in 1 or 2 hour videos.=C2=A0 Meaning I spend lo=
ts
        of
        time finding the actually beginning of a clip and such.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Also, now that we are doing more
        virtual
        training, I would love to be able to send out the videos so
        students can
        watch them locally, but I can&#39;t send 1 gig files.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I am looking for a video editor
        that
        can &#39;crop&#39; videos files.=C2=A0 These are often compressed f=
iles
        (.mp4)
        so I understand that I may have to have some &#39;extra&#39; footag=
e
        that the beginning,
        and that is fine.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">But what I see is often I have t=
o
        wait
        for the entire play length to save the cropped file. =C2=A0</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Is there an editor out that that
        can
        quickly and easily crop video files?=C2=A0 Bonus if it&#39;s free.<=
/font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks!</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
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I've been in the film/video business since the mid '80s when we were still
literally shooting cutting dual system film then editing mixing the picture
and sound using mixing stages. Did my first digital sound edit/mix while I
was working for the Navy in DC and put my first non-linear editing setup
together in around '97. I shudder a bit to think what I spent on that rig!

These days I do most of my heavy video editing in DeVinci Resolve which is
WAY overkill for what it sounds like you want to do. For your situation I
really like Topaz Labs Video Enhance AI a lot, if your computer has the
power to run it. Right now it's on sale for $160. Not only can you do cuts
editing, you can also use the AI (artificial intelligence) features to
clean up and enhance the video quality. And It's easy to trim clips to the
individual frame level. Topaz Labs has a bunch of excellent. I run a mix of
Macs and DIY PC, doing most of the Topaz Labs stuff on a fairly new Ryzen 7
build with an older nVidia (soon to be replaced) graphics card because
Topaz optimized the app for nVidia GPUs.

You can D/L free trial versions of any of TLs apps.

HTH,
Ron

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 9:23 PM Peter Murray <[email-masked]> wrote:

> If you're making these videos available for remote viewers, you should
> look at hosting them somewhere. You may be able to use something like
> YouTube if there aren't any copyright issues. I don't know if YouTube would
> treat them differently if they were unlisted (and you are sending out the
> link). There are also Rumble, Vimeo, and if use the right version of Office
> 365, you may be able to use their Stream platform.
>
> -Peter
>
>> hour videos.  Meaning I spend lots of time finding the actually beginning
>> of a clip and such.
>>
>> able to send out the videos so students can watch them locally, but I can't
>> send 1 gig files.
>>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve been in the film/video business since the=C2=A0mi=
d &#39;80s when we were still literally shooting cutting dual system film t=
hen editing mixing the picture and sound using mixing stages. Did my first =
digital sound edit/mix while I was working for=C2=A0the Navy in DC and put =
my first non-linear=C2=A0editing setup together in around=C2=A0&#39;97. I s=
hudder a bit to think=C2=A0what=C2=A0I spent on that rig!<div><br></div><di=
v>These days I do most of my heavy video=C2=A0editing in DeVinci Resolve wh=
ich is WAY overkill for what it sounds like you want to do. For your situat=
ion I really like Topaz Labs Video Enhance AI a lot, if your=C2=A0computer =
has the power to run it. Right now it&#39;s on sale for $160. Not only=C2=
=A0can you do cuts editing, you can also use the AI (artificial intelligenc=
e) features to clean up and enhance the video quality. And It&#39;s easy to=
 trim clips to the individual frame level. Topaz Labs has a bunch of excell=
ent. I run a mix of Macs and DIY PC, doing most of the Topaz Labs stuff on =
a fairly new Ryzen 7 build with an older nVidia (soon to be replaced) graph=
ics card because Topaz optimized the app for nVidia GPUs.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>You can D/L free trial versions of any of TLs apps.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>HTH,</div><div>Ron</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 9:23 PM Peter Mur=
ray &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">With=C2=A0a Mac mini in my shop, I&#39;ve been using iMovie t=
o edit videos, largely church services for YouTube, but personal stuff too.=
<div><br></div><div>You can also use the GoPro Quik app to do video editing=
, and that&#39;s both Windows and Mac.</div><div><br></div><div>If you&#39;=
re making these videos available for remote viewers, you should look at hos=
ting them somewhere. You may be able to use something like YouTube if there=
 aren&#39;t any copyright issues. I don&#39;t know if YouTube would treat t=
hem differently if they were unlisted (and you are sending out the link). T=
here are also Rumble, Vimeo, and if use the right version of Office 365, yo=
u may be able to use their Stream platform.</div><div><br></div><div>-Peter=
</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 1:14 PM Neil Sherry &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nei=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    <p>I use the Windows Photo app - will open the movie and then allow
      you to whiz through and find where you want to trim and save as a
      new file.</p>
    <p>Neil<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 20/11/2022 12:02, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I know this isn&#39;t 100% shop =
talk
        related,
        but stick with me.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I am an instructor in the Army
        and I
        often have to use clips from movies and other video training
        aids.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Problem is, many of these 2 or 3
        minute
        clips are embedding in 1 or 2 hour videos.=C2=A0 Meaning I spend lo=
ts
        of
        time finding the actually beginning of a clip and such.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Also, now that we are doing more
        virtual
        training, I would love to be able to send out the videos so
        students can
        watch them locally, but I can&#39;t send 1 gig files.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I am looking for a video editor
        that
        can &#39;crop&#39; videos files.=C2=A0 These are often compressed f=
iles
        (.mp4)
        so I understand that I may have to have some &#39;extra&#39; footag=
e
        that the beginning,
        and that is fine.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">But what I see is often I have t=
o
        wait
        for the entire play length to save the cropped file. =C2=A0</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Is there an editor out that that
        can
        quickly and easily crop video files?=C2=A0 Bonus if it&#39;s free.<=
/font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks!</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
      <br>
      <fieldset></fieldset>
      <pre>_______________________________________________

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From: Ronnie Day <[email-masked]>
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This video just popped up on YouTube. I haven't tested it myself, but
Cristina's YouTube channel is one of my favorites. I initially found it
looking for Starlink information. I'm definitely going to check it out for
my own use.

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMYOjMNKhZg)

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 10:06 PM Ronnie Day <[email-masked]> wrote:

>> With a Mac mini in my shop, I've been using iMovie to edit videos,
>> largely church services for YouTube, but personal stuff too.
>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">This video just popped up on YouTube. I haven&#39;t tested=
 it myself, but Cristina&#39;s YouTube channel is one of my favorites. I in=
itially found it looking for Starlink information. I&#39;m definitely going=
 to check it out for my own use.<div><br></div><div>(<a href=3D"https://www=
.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXMYOjMNKhZg" target=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.c=
om/watch?v=3DXMYOjMNKhZg</a>)</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 10:06 PM Ronnie =
Day &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">ronnie.da=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve been in the film/video business since =
the=C2=A0mid &#39;80s when we were still literally shooting cutting dual sy=
stem film then editing mixing the picture and sound using mixing stages. Di=
d my first digital sound edit/mix while I was working for=C2=A0the Navy in =
DC and put my first non-linear=C2=A0editing setup together in around=C2=A0&=
#39;97. I shudder a bit to think=C2=A0what=C2=A0I spent on that rig!<div><b=
r></div><div>These days I do most of my heavy video=C2=A0editing in DeVinci=
 Resolve which is WAY overkill for what it sounds like you want to do. For =
your situation I really like Topaz Labs Video Enhance AI a lot, if your=C2=
=A0computer has the power to run it. Right now it&#39;s on sale for $160. N=
ot only=C2=A0can you do cuts editing, you can also use the AI (artificial i=
ntelligence) features to clean up and enhance the video quality. And It&#39=
;s easy to trim clips to the individual frame level. Topaz Labs has a bunch=
 of excellent. I run a mix of Macs and DIY PC, doing most of the Topaz Labs=
 stuff on a fairly new Ryzen 7 build with an older nVidia (soon to be repla=
ced) graphics card because Topaz optimized the app for nVidia GPUs.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>You can D/L free trial versions of any of TLs apps.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>HTH,</div><div>Ron</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 9:23 PM=
 Peter Murray &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">With=C2=A0a Mac mini in my shop, =
I&#39;ve been using iMovie to edit videos, largely church services for YouT=
ube, but personal stuff too.<div><br></div><div>You can also use the GoPro =
Quik app to do video editing, and that&#39;s both Windows and Mac.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>If you&#39;re making these videos available for remote vie=
wers, you should look at hosting them somewhere. You may be able to use som=
ething like YouTube if there aren&#39;t any copyright issues. I don&#39;t k=
now if YouTube would treat them differently if they were unlisted (and you =
are sending out the link). There are also Rumble, Vimeo, and if use the rig=
ht version of Office 365, you may be able to use their Stream platform.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>-Peter</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 1:14 PM Neil Sher=
ry &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">neiljs=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    <p>I use the Windows Photo app - will open the movie and then allow
      you to whiz through and find where you want to trim and save as a
      new file.</p>
    <p>Neil<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 20/11/2022 12:02, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I know this isn&#39;t 100% shop =
talk
        related,
        but stick with me.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I am an instructor in the Army
        and I
        often have to use clips from movies and other video training
        aids.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Problem is, many of these 2 or 3
        minute
        clips are embedding in 1 or 2 hour videos.=C2=A0 Meaning I spend lo=
ts
        of
        time finding the actually beginning of a clip and such.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Also, now that we are doing more
        virtual
        training, I would love to be able to send out the videos so
        students can
        watch them locally, but I can&#39;t send 1 gig files.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I am looking for a video editor
        that
        can &#39;crop&#39; videos files.=C2=A0 These are often compressed f=
iles
        (.mp4)
        so I understand that I may have to have some &#39;extra&#39; footag=
e
        that the beginning,
        and that is fine.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">But what I see is often I have t=
o
        wait
        for the entire play length to save the cropped file. =C2=A0</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Is there an editor out that that
        can
        quickly and easily crop video files?=C2=A0 Bonus if it&#39;s free.<=
/font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks!</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
      <br>
      <fieldset></fieldset>
      <pre>_______________________________________________

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Ronnie-

[engage thread drift]
Any questions I might be able to answer about Starlink? I have a base
station and was quite impressed with its performance when I had it active
this summer at my second shop location.

-Peter

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 4:19 PM Ronnie Day <[email-masked]> wrote:

>> I've been in the film/video business since the mid '80s when we were
>> still literally shooting cutting dual system film then editing mixing the
>> picture and sound using mixing stages. Did my first digital sound edit/mix
>> while I was working for the Navy in DC and put my first non-linear editing
>> setup together in around '97. I shudder a bit to think what I spent on that
>> rig!
>>
>> These days I do most of my heavy video editing in DeVinci Resolve which
>> is WAY overkill for what it sounds like you want to do. For your situation
>> I really like Topaz Labs Video Enhance AI a lot, if your computer has the
>>>> are often compressed files (.mp4) so I understand that I may have to have
>>>> some 'extra' footage that the beginning, and that is fine.
>>>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ronnie-<div><br></div><div>[engage thread drift]</div><div=
>Any questions I might be able to answer about Starlink? I have a base stat=
ion and was quite impressed with its performance when I had it active this =
summer at my second shop location.</div><div><br></div><div>-Peter</div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 4:19 PM Ronnie Day &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ronnie.day@gm=
ail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">This video just popped up on =
YouTube. I haven&#39;t tested it myself, but Cristina&#39;s YouTube channel=
 is one of my favorites. I initially found it looking for Starlink informat=
ion. I&#39;m definitely going to check it out for my own use.<div><br></div=
><div>(<a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXMYOjMNKhZg" target=3D"=
_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXMYOjMNKhZg</a>)</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov=
 20, 2022 at 10:06 PM Ronnie Day &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve been in t=
he film/video business since the=C2=A0mid &#39;80s when we were still liter=
ally shooting cutting dual system film then editing mixing the picture and =
sound using mixing stages. Did my first digital sound edit/mix while I was =
working for=C2=A0the Navy in DC and put my first non-linear=C2=A0editing se=
tup together in around=C2=A0&#39;97. I shudder a bit to think=C2=A0what=C2=
=A0I spent on that rig!<div><br></div><div>These days I do most of my heavy=
 video=C2=A0editing in DeVinci Resolve which is WAY overkill for what it so=
unds like you want to do. For your situation I really like Topaz Labs Video=
 Enhance AI a lot, if your=C2=A0computer has the power to run it. Right now=
 it&#39;s on sale for $160. Not only=C2=A0can you do cuts editing, you can =
also use the AI (artificial intelligence) features to clean up and enhance =
the video quality. And It&#39;s easy to trim clips to the individual frame =
level. Topaz Labs has a bunch of excellent. I run a mix of Macs and DIY PC,=
 doing most of the Topaz Labs stuff on a fairly new Ryzen 7 build with an o=
lder nVidia (soon to be replaced) graphics card because Topaz optimized the=
 app for nVidia GPUs.</div><div><br></div><div>You can D/L free trial versi=
ons of any of TLs apps.</div><div><br></div><div>HTH,</div><div>Ron</div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 9:23 PM Peter Murray &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:peterwmurr=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">With=
=C2=A0a Mac mini in my shop, I&#39;ve been using iMovie to edit videos, lar=
gely church services for YouTube, but personal stuff too.<div><br></div><di=
v>You can also use the GoPro Quik app to do video editing, and that&#39;s b=
oth Windows and Mac.</div><div><br></div><div>If you&#39;re making these vi=
deos available for remote viewers, you should look at hosting them somewher=
e. You may be able to use something like YouTube if there aren&#39;t any co=
pyright issues. I don&#39;t know if YouTube would treat them differently if=
 they were unlisted (and you are sending out the link). There are also Rumb=
le, Vimeo, and if use the right version of Office 365, you may be able to u=
se their Stream platform.</div><div><br></div><div>-Peter</div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov =
20, 2022 at 1:14 PM Neil Sherry &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:neiljsherry@talktalk.=
net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    <p>I use the Windows Photo app - will open the movie and then allow
      you to whiz through and find where you want to trim and save as a
      new file.</p>
    <p>Neil<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 20/11/2022 12:02, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I know this isn&#39;t 100% shop =
talk
        related,
        but stick with me.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I am an instructor in the Army
        and I
        often have to use clips from movies and other video training
        aids.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Problem is, many of these 2 or 3
        minute
        clips are embedding in 1 or 2 hour videos.=C2=A0 Meaning I spend lo=
ts
        of
        time finding the actually beginning of a clip and such.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Also, now that we are doing more
        virtual
        training, I would love to be able to send out the videos so
        students can
        watch them locally, but I can&#39;t send 1 gig files.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I am looking for a video editor
        that
        can &#39;crop&#39; videos files.=C2=A0 These are often compressed f=
iles
        (.mp4)
        so I understand that I may have to have some &#39;extra&#39; footag=
e
        that the beginning,
        and that is fine.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">But what I see is often I have t=
o
        wait
        for the entire play length to save the cropped file. =C2=A0</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Is there an editor out that that
        can
        quickly and easily crop video files?=C2=A0 Bonus if it&#39;s free.<=
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      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks!</font>
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      <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
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