Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Reznor 50K ceiling hung natural gas heater probem

From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 22:39:53 -0500

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+1, Jim! Thanks.=20

Peace,
Pat

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On Oct 22, 2022, at 8:44 PM, Jim Stone <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFNot to insult anyone=E2=80=99s intelligence, but before replacing i=
t, make certain it is properly in the pilot light flame.  I had this happen y=
ears ago on a water heater and it drove me crazy until I bent it slightly to=
 move it back into the flame.  It was fine from then on.

> On Oct 22, 2022, at 5:51 PM, Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Sounds like a bad thermocouple to me. Take it out & find someone who can t=
est it. If they say it=E2=80=99s bad, replace it, if they say it=E2=80=99s g=
ood, it is probably good. I had one decades ago that tested good but wouldn=E2=
=80=99t work with the pilot flame. The end @ the pilot should not be corrode=
d or loose. If you have a voltmeter you can do a rough (no load test) to see=
 if it=E2=80=99s bad. Should be plenty of videos on line.=20
>=20
> Peace,
> Pat
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> Pat Horne=20
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> On Oct 22, 2022, at 4:44 PM, john <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Winter's coming...thought I'd light the pilot and be ahead of that first c=
old day...
> =20
> Pressed in the pilot button... propane torch up the hole... after a few se=
conds the pilot lit
> Held the button for 30 seconds and let it go...flame goes out
> =20
> lowered the pilot assembly to see what happens ...same drill
> =20
> pilot lights.... then goes out when releasing the pilot button...
> flame is on the thermocouple
> =20
> what you think >>>  bad thermocouple ???
> =20
> thanks
> john
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">+1, Jim! Thanks.&nbsp;<div=
><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;=
<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br>On Oct 22, 2022, at 8:44 PM, Jim Stone &lt;[email-masked]&gt; w=
rote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Typ=
e" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Not to insult anyone=E2=80=99s int=
elligence, but before replacing it, make certain it is properly in the pilot=
 light flame. &nbsp;I had this happen years ago on a water heater and it dro=
ve me crazy until I bent it slightly to move it back into the flame. &nbsp;I=
t was fine from then on.<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D=
"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Oct 22, 2022, at 5:51 PM, Pat Horne &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><=
meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" clas=
s=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Sounds like a bad thermocouple to me. Ta=
ke it out &amp; find someone who can test it. If they say it=E2=80=99s bad, r=
eplace it, if they say it=E2=80=99s good, it is probably good. I had one dec=
ades ago that tested good but wouldn=E2=80=99t work with the pilot flame. Th=
e end @ the pilot should not be corroded or loose. If you have a voltmeter y=
ou can do a rough (no load test) to see if it=E2=80=99s bad. Should be plent=
y of videos on line.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D=
"">Peace,</div><div class=3D"">Pat<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div class=3D"">We support Habitat for Humani=
ty</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
""><br class=3D"">On Oct 22, 2022, at 4:44 PM, john &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jn=
[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br c=
lass=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF
<meta name=3D"GENERATOR" content=3D"MSHTML 11.00.10570.1001" class=3D"">

<div class=3D""><font face=3D"Segoe UI" class=3D"">Winter's coming...thought=
 I'd light the pilot and be ahead of that first cold day...</font></div>
<div class=3D""><font face=3D"Segoe UI" class=3D""></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D""><font face=3D"Segoe UI" class=3D"">Pressed in the pilot butt=
on... propane torch up the hole... after a few seconds the pilot lit</font><=
/div>
<div class=3D""><font face=3D"Segoe UI" class=3D"">Held the button for 30 se=
conds and let it go...flame goes out</font></div>
<div class=3D""><font face=3D"Segoe UI" class=3D""></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D""><font face=3D"Segoe UI" class=3D"">lowered the pilot assembl=
y to see what happens ...same drill</font></div>
<div class=3D""><font face=3D"Segoe UI" class=3D""></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D""><font face=3D"Segoe UI" class=3D"">pilot lights.... then goe=
s out when releasing the pilot button... </font></div>
<div class=3D""><font face=3D"Segoe UI" class=3D"">flame is on the thermocou=
ple</font></div>
<div class=3D""><font face=3D"Segoe UI" class=3D""></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D""><font face=3D"Segoe UI" class=3D"">what you think &gt;&gt;&g=
t;&nbsp; bad thermocouple ???</font></div>
<div class=3D""><font face=3D"Segoe UI" class=3D""></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D""><font face=3D"Segoe UI" class=3D"">thanks</font></div>
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At 04:43 PM 10/22/2022, you wrote:

 >Winter's coming...thought I'd light the pilot and be ahead of that 
first cold day...

 >Pressed in the pilot button... propane torch up the hole... after a 
few seconds the
 >pilot lit  Held the button for 30 seconds and let it go...flame goes out
 >
 >pilot lights.... then goes out when releasing the pilot 
button...   flame is on the
 >thermocouple

 >what you think >>>  bad thermocouple ???

John,

Could be the thermocouple.  How old is the unit.  I have a set of gas 
logs that has
the same sort of set up.  But when I turn them on for the 1st 
time,  I have to really
heat up the thermocouple with a lighter for quite a while, other wise 
the pilot lite
goes out.  I think it's just that the thermocouple is cold and 
doesn't heat up quickly.
consiquently turning off the pilot light when you release the "start" button.

I'd say try holding the "start" button on for at least a minute or 
try using a lighter
to heat it up for at least a minute or two and see if that works.

John

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<font size=3>At 04:43 PM 10/22/2022, you wrote:<br><br>
&gt;</font><font face="Segoe UI" size=3>Winter's coming...thought I'd
light the pilot and be ahead of that first cold day...<br><br>
</font>&gt;<font face="Segoe UI" size=3>Pressed in the pilot button...
propane torch up the hole... after a few seconds the <br>
</font>&gt;<font face="Segoe UI" size=3>pilot lit&nbsp; Held the button
for 30 seconds and let it go...flame goes out<br>
</font>&gt;<br>
&gt;<font face="Segoe UI" size=3>lowered the pilot assembly to see what
happens ...same drill<br>
</font>&gt;<br>
&gt;<font face="Segoe UI" size=3>pilot lights.... then goes out when
releasing the pilot button...&nbsp;&nbsp; flame is on the <br>
</font>&gt;<font face="Segoe UI" size=3>thermocouple<br><br>
</font>&gt;<font face="Segoe UI" size=3>what you think &gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;
bad thermocouple ???<br><br>
John,<br><br>
Could be the thermocouple.&nbsp; How old is the unit.&nbsp; I have a set
of gas logs that has<br>
the same sort of set up.&nbsp; But when I turn them on for the 1st
time,&nbsp; I have to really<br>
heat up the thermocouple with a lighter for quite a while, other wise the
pilot lite <br>
goes out.&nbsp; I think it's just that the thermocouple is cold and
doesn't heat up quickly. <br>
consiquently turning off the pilot light when you release the
&quot;start&quot; button.<br><br>
I'd say try holding the &quot;start&quot; button on for at least a minute
or try using a lighter <br>
to heat it up for at least a minute or two and see if that
works.<br><br>
John<br><br>
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