Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Diesel Fuel for engine operation

From: Jack Brooks <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 15:53:17 +0000

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I'm not sure about all legalities if packaging the fuel, but to fill it up =
and not pay the bulk of the taxes is all you have to do is bring it over to=
 a truck stop and make sure you fill it with the reefer fuel, not tractor f=
uel. Reefer does not have road tax on it.

Jack
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From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of eric@megage=
ek.com <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 7:07:29 AM
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] Diesel Fuel for engine operation

Here is the problem...

I have a bunch of diesel tractors/equipment/and bull dozer that I use on th=
e farm here.  Instead of paying over the road taxes and filling 5 gal conta=
iners every time, I used to have an 230 gal oil tank that I put home heatin=
g oil in and used that.  It worked for the first 20 years I was here.
The new fuels seem to develop algae very quickly.  I've tried additives, bu=
t I still have the problems.

So, I'm going to ditch the oil tank (it's too hard to clean after any algae=
 bloom).  I was thinking of just using a 55 gal drum.  I also don't use tha=
t much fuel so I don't need it sitting around.

Here are the questions...

-first, what fuel is the most stable for the longest?  Home heating oil, of=
f road diesel, or something else?
-second, will most heating oil places fill a 55 gal drum?  Do I need any sp=
ecial markings?
-third, if I have to bring it to them to get it filled, is there any specia=
l requirements to transporting it?
-fourth, am I missing a better option?

Thanks

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<div dir=3D"auto">I'm not sure about all legalities if packaging the fuel, =
but to fill it up and not pay the bulk of the taxes is all you have to do i=
s bring it over to a truck stop and make sure you fill it with the reefer f=
uel, not tractor fuel. Reefer does
 not have road tax on it.&nbsp;</div>
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5, 255, 255);">
Jack</div>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk &lt;shop-ta=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of [email-masked] &lt;eric@megag=
eek.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 17, 2022 7:07:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] Diesel Fuel for engine operation</font>
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Here is the problem...</font> <br=
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I have a bunch of diesel tractors/equi=
pment/and bull dozer that I use on the farm here. &nbsp;Instead of paying o=
ver the road taxes and filling 5 gal containers every time, I used to have =
an 230 gal oil tank that I put home heating
 oil in and used that. &nbsp;It worked for the first 20 years I was here.</=
font> <br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">The new fuels seem to develop algae ve=
ry quickly. &nbsp;I've tried additives, but I still have the problems.</fon=
t>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So, I'm going to ditch the oil tank (i=
t's too hard to clean after any algae bloom). &nbsp;I was thinking of just =
using a 55 gal drum. &nbsp;I also don't use that much fuel so I don't need =
it sitting around.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Here are the questions...</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-first, what fuel is the most stable f=
or the longest? &nbsp;Home heating oil, off road diesel, or something else?=
</font>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-second, will most heating oil places =
fill a 55 gal drum? &nbsp;Do I need any special markings?</font>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-third, if I have to bring it to them =
to get it filled, is there any special requirements to transporting it?</fo=
nt>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-fourth, am I missing a better option?=
</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks</font></div>
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From: RandE <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 11:20:57 -0500

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In some states there is a form you can fill out and send in to the state to
get your taxes back on fuel that is not used on the road (lawn mower,
tractor, etc.).

Randy

On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:17 AM Jack Brooks <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I'm not sure about all legalities if packaging the fuel, but to fill it up
> and not pay the bulk of the taxes is all you have to do is bring it over to
> a truck stop and make sure you fill it with the reefer fuel, not tractor
> fuel. Reefer does not have road tax on it.
>
> Jack
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of
> [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2022 7:07:29 AM
> *To:* [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* [Shop-talk] Diesel Fuel for engine operation
>
> Here is the problem...
>
> I have a bunch of diesel tractors/equipment/and bull dozer that I use on
> the farm here.  Instead of paying over the road taxes and filling 5 gal
> containers every time, I used to have an 230 gal oil tank that I put home
> heating oil in and used that.  It worked for the first 20 years I was here.
> The new fuels seem to develop algae very quickly.  I've tried additives,
> but I still have the problems.
>
> So, I'm going to ditch the oil tank (it's too hard to clean after any
> algae bloom).  I was thinking of just using a 55 gal drum.  I also don't
> use that much fuel so I don't need it sitting around.
>
> -first, what fuel is the most stable for the longest?  Home heating oil,
> off road diesel, or something else?
> -second, will most heating oil places fill a 55 gal drum?  Do I need any
> special markings?
> -third, if I have to bring it to them to get it filled, is there any
> special requirements to transporting it?
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<div dir=3D"ltr">In some states there is a form you can fill out and send i=
n to the state to get your taxes back on fuel that is not used on the road =
(lawn mower, tractor, etc.).=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Randy</div></div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Se=
p 17, 2022 at 11:17 AM Jack Brooks &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex">

<div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;m not sure about all legalities if packaging the fu=
el, but to fill it up and not pay the bulk of the taxes is all you have to =
do is bring it over to a truck stop and make sure you fill it with the reef=
er fuel, not tractor fuel. Reefer does
 not have road tax on it.=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255=
,255)">
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"color:rgb(33,33,33);background-color:rgb(255,255=
,255)">
Jack</div>
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bri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Sh=
op-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of <a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<b=
r>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 17, 2022 7:07:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Sh=
[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] Diesel Fuel for engine operation</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Here is the problem...</font> <br=
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I have a bunch of diesel tractors/equi=
pment/and bull dozer that I use on the farm here.=C2=A0 Instead of paying o=
ver the road taxes and filling 5 gal containers every time, I used to have =
an 230 gal oil tank that I put home heating
 oil in and used that.=C2=A0 It worked for the first 20 years I was here.</=
font> <br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">The new fuels seem to develop algae ve=
ry quickly.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve tried additives, but I still have the problems.<=
/font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So, I&#39;m going to ditch the oil tan=
k (it&#39;s too hard to clean after any algae bloom).=C2=A0 I was thinking =
of just using a 55 gal drum.=C2=A0 I also don&#39;t use that much fuel so I=
 don&#39;t need it sitting around.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Here are the questions...</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-first, what fuel is the most stable f=
or the longest?=C2=A0 Home heating oil, off road diesel, or something else?=
</font>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-second, will most heating oil places =
fill a 55 gal drum?=C2=A0 Do I need any special markings?</font>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-third, if I have to bring it to them =
to get it filled, is there any special requirements to transporting it?</fo=
nt>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-fourth, am I missing a better option?=
</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks</font></div>
</div>

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