Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Where to buy copper washers & utility light

From: Paul Parkanzky <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 11:55:38 -0400

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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I have two of the rechargeable slim Braun l=
ights and I really like them.<div><br></div><div><div class=3D""><div class=3D=
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" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">390 Lumen Magnetic Slim Bar Folding Work Li=
ght</font></a></div><div class=3D"lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack-bottomCa=
ption-leading" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; font-size: 11px; overflow=
: hidden; text-overflow: ellipsis;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"https://www.=
harborfreight.com/390-lumen-magnetic-slim-bar-folding-work-light-56329.html"=
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gba(60, 60, 67, 0.6);">harborfreight.com</font></a></div></div></td></tr></t=
body></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div></div><div><br></div>They=E2=
=80=99ve taken a heck of a beating and held up. All my friends that have com=
e and used them end up buying one or two.</div><div><br></div><div>My only c=
omplaints are that the button sticks out a mile and I=E2=80=99m constantly h=
itting it accidentally when I=E2=80=99m using it. I unscrew the base a half-=
turn when I throw it in my work bag to keep it from coming on inadvertently.=
</div><div>My other wish is that it folded all the way over so it would pack=
 more easily. I used a Snap-On with a similar design that folded over onto i=
tself and that was nice but I like the Braun better overall.</div><div><br><=
div dir=3D"ltr">-Paul</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te">On Sep 24, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Gene Abbondelo &lt;eugene.abbondelo@gmail.=
com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I'd like to find a company that sells g=
ood quality copper washers of various sizes in kit form.&nbsp; Lots of stuff=
 on&nbsp; Ebay, but not sure of the quality.&nbsp; Didn't see anything on MS=
C Direct or Aircraft-Spruce or McMaster Carr in an assorted size kit, but I m=
ay have missed something.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Any suggestions?<br></div>=
<div><br></div><div>&nbsp;Also looking for a good quality small but powerful=
 utility light that can get into tight places when working underneath a car.=
&nbsp; Corded or rechargeable battery.&nbsp; I looked at stuff at Lowes and H=
ome Depot but didn't like any of it.&nbsp; Any suggestions?</div><div><br></=
div><div>Thanks, Gene<br></div></div>
<span>_________________________________________</span><br></div></blockquote=
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From: Rochlin Robert <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 14:28:45 -0400

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		I second Paul=E2=80=99s recommendation of the Braun =
Light.  I have two so that I can recharge one while using the other. It =
is light, relatively powerfulI, rugged, and inexpensive.  I bought it to =
use in the garage, but now use it in many applications. All in all, it's =
The best utility light I=E2=80=99ve ever had. My only complaint is that =
it is so unobtrusive  that it=E2=80=99s easy to forget to remove it at =
the conclusion of a job.
	Best,
	Bob

> On Sep 24, 2022, at 11:55 AM, Paul Parkanzky <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>=20
> I have two of the rechargeable slim Braun lights and I really like =
them.
>=20
> 390 Lumen Magnetic Slim Bar Folding Work Light
> harborfreight.com
>  =
<https://www.harborfreight.com/390-lumen-magnetic-slim-bar-folding-work-li=
ght-56329.html>390 Lumen Magnetic Slim Bar Folding Work Light =
<https://www.harborfreight.com/390-lumen-magnetic-slim-bar-folding-work-li=
ght-56329.html>
> harborfreight.com =
<https://www.harborfreight.com/390-lumen-magnetic-slim-bar-folding-work-li=
ght-56329.html>
>=20
> They=E2=80=99ve taken a heck of a beating and held up. All my friends =
that have come and used them end up buying one or two.
>=20
> My only complaints are that the button sticks out a mile and I=E2=80=99m=
 constantly hitting it accidentally when I=E2=80=99m using it. I unscrew =
the base a half-turn when I throw it in my work bag to keep it from =
coming on inadvertently.
> My other wish is that it folded all the way over so it would pack more =
easily. I used a Snap-On with a similar design that folded over onto =
itself and that was nice but I like the Braun better overall.
>=20
> -Paul
>=20
>> On Sep 24, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Gene Abbondelo =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> I'd like to find a company that sells good quality copper washers of =
various sizes in kit form.  Lots of stuff on  Ebay, but not sure of the =
quality.  Didn't see anything on MSC Direct or Aircraft-Spruce or =
McMaster Carr in an assorted size kit, but I may have missed something.  =
   Any suggestions?
>>=20
>>  Also looking for a good quality small but powerful utility light =
that can get into tight places when working underneath a car.  Corded or =
rechargeable battery.  I looked at stuff at Lowes and Home Depot but =
didn't like any of it.  Any suggestions?
>>=20
>> Thanks, Gene
>> _________________________________________
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span=
 class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">		</span>I =
second Paul=E2=80=99s recommendation of the Braun Light. &nbsp;I have =
two so that I can recharge one while using the other. It is light, =
relatively powerfulI, rugged, and inexpensive. &nbsp;I bought it to use =
in the garage, but now use it in many applications. All in all, it's The =
best utility light I=E2=80=99ve ever had. My only complaint is that it =
is so unobtrusive &nbsp;that it=E2=80=99s easy to forget to remove it at =
the conclusion of a job.<div class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>Best,</div><div class=3D""><span =
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class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Sep 24, 2022, at 11:55 AM, Paul Parkanzky &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
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class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I have two of the rechargeable =
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le></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div>They=E2=80=99ve taken a heck of a beating and held up. =
All my friends that have come and used them end up buying one or =
two.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">My only =
complaints are that the button sticks out a mile and I=E2=80=99m =
constantly hitting it accidentally when I=E2=80=99m using it. I unscrew =
the base a half-turn when I throw it in my work bag to keep it from =
coming on inadvertently.</div><div class=3D"">My other wish is that it =
folded all the way over so it would pack more easily. I used a Snap-On =
with a similar design that folded over onto itself and that was nice but =
I like the Braun better overall.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">-Paul</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Sep 24, 2022, at =
11:06 AM, Gene Abbondelo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
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class=3D""></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">I'd like to find a company that sells good quality copper =
washers of various sizes in kit form.&nbsp; Lots of stuff on&nbsp; Ebay, =
but not sure of the quality.&nbsp; Didn't see anything on MSC Direct or =
Aircraft-Spruce or McMaster Carr in an assorted size kit, but I may have =
missed something.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Any suggestions?<br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;Also looking for a good quality small but powerful =
utility light that can get into tight places when working underneath a =
car.&nbsp; Corded or rechargeable battery.&nbsp; I looked at stuff at =
Lowes and Home Depot but didn't like any of it.&nbsp; Any =
suggestions?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thanks, Gene<br class=3D""></div></div>
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:24:05 -0700

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Harbor Freight has a decent assortment of copper washers:

https://www.harborfreight.com/80-piece-copper-washer-assortment-67526.html

Quality? They're copper.

For working on cars, I prefer a headlamp (because I don't have three arms):

https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-headlamp/

On 9/24/2022 11:28 AM, Rochlin Robert wrote:
> I second Paul’s recommendation of the Braun Light.  I have two so that 
> I can recharge one while using the other. It is light, relatively 
> powerfulI, rugged, and inexpensive.  I bought it to use in the garage, 
> but now use it in many applications. All in all, it's The best utility 
> light I’ve ever had. My only complaint is that it is so unobtrusive 
>  that it’s easy to forget to remove it at the conclusion of a job.
> Best,
> Bob
>
>> On Sep 24, 2022, at 11:55 AM, Paul Parkanzky <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>> I have two of the rechargeable slim Braun lights and I really like them.
>>
>> <https://www.harborfreight.com/390-lumen-magnetic-slim-bar-folding-work-light-56329.html>
>> harborfreight.com 
>> <https://www.harborfreight.com/390-lumen-magnetic-slim-bar-folding-work-light-56329.html>
>>
>> <https://www.harborfreight.com/390-lumen-magnetic-slim-bar-folding-work-light-56329.html>
>>
>> They’ve taken a heck of a beating and held up. All my friends that 
>> have come and used them end up buying one or two.
>>
>> My only complaints are that the button sticks out a mile and I’m 
>> constantly hitting it accidentally when I’m using it. I unscrew the 
>> base a half-turn when I throw it in my work bag to keep it from 
>> coming on inadvertently.
>> My other wish is that it folded all the way over so it would pack 
>> more easily. I used a Snap-On with a similar design that folded over 
>> onto itself and that was nice but I like the Braun better overall.
>>
>> -Paul
>>
>>> On Sep 24, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Gene Abbondelo 
>>> I'd like to find a company that sells good quality copper washers of 
>>> various sizes in kit form.  Lots of stuff on  Ebay, but not sure of 
>>> the quality.  Didn't see anything on MSC Direct or Aircraft-Spruce 
>>> or McMaster Carr in an assorted size kit, but I may have missed 
>>> something.     Any suggestions?
>>>
>>>  Also looking for a good quality small but powerful utility light 
>>> that can get into tight places when working underneath a car.  
>>> Corded or rechargeable battery.  I looked at stuff at Lowes and Home 
>>> Depot but didn't like any of it.  Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Gene
>>>

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    Harbor Freight has a decent assortment of copper washers:<br>
    <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.harborfreight.com/80-piece-copper-washer-assortment-67526.html">https://www.harborfreight.com/80-piece-copper-washer-assortment-67526.html</a><br>
    <br>
    Quality? They're copper.<br>
    <br>
    For working on cars, I prefer a headlamp (because I don't have three
    arms):<br>
    <br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-headlamp/">https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-headlamp/</a><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/24/2022 11:28 AM, Rochlin Robert
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:[email-masked]">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">		</span>I
      second Paul’s recommendation of the Braun Light.  I have two so
      that I can recharge one while using the other. It is light,
      relatively powerfulI, rugged, and inexpensive.  I bought it to use
      in the garage, but now use it in many applications. All in all,
      it's The best utility light I’ve ever had. My only complaint is
      that it is so unobtrusive  that it’s easy to forget to remove it
      at the conclusion of a job.
      <div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span>Best,</div>
      <div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span>Bob<br
          class="">
        <div><br class="">
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            <div class="">On Sep 24, 2022, at 11:55 AM, Paul Parkanzky
              &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:</div>
            <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
            <div class="">
              <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
                charset=UTF-8" class="">
              <div dir="auto" class="">I have two of the rechargeable
                slim Braun lights and I really like them.
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">
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                  They’ve taken a heck of a beating and held up. All my
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                <div class="">My only complaints are that the button
                  sticks out a mile and I’m constantly hitting it
                  accidentally when I’m using it. I unscrew the base a
                  half-turn when I throw it in my work bag to keep it
                  from coming on inadvertently.</div>
                <div class="">My other wish is that it folded all the
                  way over so it would pack more easily. I used a
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                        sizes in kit form.  Lots of stuff on  Ebay, but
                        not sure of the quality.  Didn't see anything on
                        MSC Direct or Aircraft-Spruce or McMaster Carr
                        in an assorted size kit, but I may have missed
                        something.     Any suggestions?<br class="">
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                      <div class=""> Also looking for a good quality
                        small but powerful utility light that can get
                        into tight places when working underneath a
                        car.  Corded or rechargeable battery.  I looked
                        at stuff at Lowes and Home Depot but didn't like
                        any of it.  Any suggestions?</div>
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> https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-headlamp/

Bar fight time!

Headlamp vs two or three magnetic/hook utility lights.

Let the argument begin...;)

John.

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Hi John

Yes, I agree. Headlamps free-up one hand and almost always focus the beam
exactly where you are looking, which are great assets.

I never used them up until about a year ago (my wife bought me a couple of
them) and probably would not have tried them if she had not bought them,
but they are so much better than only using a trouble light or a
flashlight, etc.

Maybe they look a little goofy, but they certainly work well...

best,
doug

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi John<div><br></div><div>Yes, I agree. Headlamps free-up=
 one hand and almost always focus the beam exactly where you are looking, w=
hich are great assets.</div><div><br></div><div>I never used them up until =
about a year ago (my wife bought me a couple of them) and probably would no=
t have tried them if she had not bought them, but they are so much better t=
han only using a trouble=C2=A0light or a flashlight, etc.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Maybe they look a little goofy, but they certainly work well...</di=
v><div><br></div><div>best,</div><div>doug</div></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 11:=
48 AM John Miller &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
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>&gt; For working on cars, I prefer a headlamp (because I don&#39;t have th=
ree arms):<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-headlamp/" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/rev=
iews/best-headlamp/</a><br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
Bar fight time!<br>
<br>
Headlamp vs two or three magnetic/hook utility lights.<br>
<br>
Let the argument begin...;)<br>
<br>
John.<br>
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> Maybe they look a little goofy, but they certainly work well...

My take is this: in the garage I'm gonna saturate the zone with light. 
It's gonna be multiple utility lights if I can manage it.  The battery 
LED stuff is good enough now that I rarely unroll a cord.

It'd never occurred to me until this discussion that I ought to have at 
least a headlight in my travel tool kit.

John.

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And a third for the Braun light.=20

They sell two versions =E2=80=A6 just the light ... =
https://www.harborfreight.com/390-lumen-magnetic-slim-bar-folding-work-lig=
ht-56329.html =
<https://www.harborfreight.com/390-lumen-magnetic-slim-bar-folding-work-li=
ght-56329.html> =E2=80=A6 and a kit with several different LED heads =E2=80=
=A6 =
https://www.harborfreight.com/421-lumen-3-in-1-quick-connect-light-kit-562=
00.html =
<https://www.harborfreight.com/421-lumen-3-in-1-quick-connect-light-kit-56=
200.html>. The =E2=80=98just the light=E2=80=99 is currently on sale (at =
least for Inside Track members) for $22.

The great thing about them is that the take the ubiquitous 18650 lithium =
ion battery. There are multiple vendors from which you can order better =
batteries and a charger if you are so inclined. That way you (a) always =
have charged batteries on hand and (b) you may already have stuff that =
uses that battery anyway. I=E2=80=99d previously sprung for the =
Panasonic 3450mAH batteries for my other devices and am astounded at the =
battery life when used with these lights. Definitely in the =E2=80=98multi=
ple hours of bright light=E2=80=99 category.

The not so great thing, at least for me, is that they roll around unless =
you happen to be lighting up something where the light bar can be folded =
enough to keep it from rolling and it happens to shine were you need it =
in that configuration.

The magnet on the bottom of the light works well for attaching to a =
metal surface. To address the =E2=80=9CI want it to stand it up on my =
wooden work bench:, I looked in the junk box for a galvanized electrical =
cover plate and problem solved. It happened to be a rectangular plate so =
the =E2=80=98rolling around=E2=80=99 was also solved for most use cases.

Now if I could just fine a 18650 head lamp that wasn=E2=80=99t bulky and =
make me look like a SciFi monster I=E2=80=99d be home free!!

> On Sep 25, 2022, at 1:54 PM, old dirtbeard <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi John
>=20
> Yes, I agree. Headlamps free-up one hand and almost always focus the =
beam exactly where you are looking, which are great assets.
>=20
> I never used them up until about a year ago (my wife bought me a =
couple of them) and probably would not have tried them if she had not =
bought them, but they are so much better than only using a trouble light =
or a flashlight, etc.
> Maybe they look a little goofy, but they certainly work well...

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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">And =
a third for the Braun light.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">They sell two versions =E2=80=A6 just =
the light ...&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.harborfreight.com/390-lumen-magnetic-slim-bar-folding-=
work-light-56329.html" =
class=3D"">https://www.harborfreight.com/390-lumen-magnetic-slim-bar-foldi=
ng-work-light-56329.html</a>&nbsp;=E2=80=A6 and a kit with several =
different LED heads =E2=80=A6&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.harborfreight.com/421-lumen-3-in-1-quick-connect-light=
-kit-56200.html" =
class=3D"">https://www.harborfreight.com/421-lumen-3-in-1-quick-connect-li=
ght-kit-56200.html</a>. The =E2=80=98just the light=E2=80=99 is =
currently on sale (at least for Inside Track members) for $22.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The great thing about =
them is that the take the ubiquitous 18650 lithium ion battery. There =
are multiple vendors from which you can order better batteries and a =
charger if you are so inclined. That way you (a) always have charged =
batteries on hand and (b) you may already have stuff that uses that =
battery anyway. I=E2=80=99d previously sprung for the Panasonic 3450mAH =
batteries for my other devices and am astounded at the battery life when =
used with these lights. Definitely in the =E2=80=98multiple hours of =
bright light=E2=80=99 category.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The not so great thing, at least for =
me, is that they roll around unless you happen to be lighting up =
something where the light bar can be folded enough to keep it from =
rolling and it happens to shine were you need it in that =
configuration.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">The magnet on the bottom of the light works well for =
attaching to a metal surface. To address the =E2=80=9CI want it to stand =
it up on my wooden work bench:, I looked in the junk box for a =
galvanized electrical cover plate and problem solved. It happened to be =
a rectangular plate so the =E2=80=98rolling around=E2=80=99 was also =
solved for most use cases.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Now if I could just fine a 18650 head lamp that wasn=E2=80=99t =
bulky and make me look like a SciFi monster I=E2=80=99d be home =
free!!</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Sep 25, 2022, at 1:54 PM, old dirtbeard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
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normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
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class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Yes, I agree. Headlamps free-up one =
hand and almost always focus the beam exactly where you are looking, =
which are great assets.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">I never used them up until about a year ago (my wife bought =
me a couple of them) and probably would not have tried them if she had =
not bought them, but they are so much better than only using a =
trouble&nbsp;light or a flashlight, etc.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Maybe they look a little goofy, but =
they certainly work well...</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
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From: Gene Garrison <[email-masked]>
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Of course the best answer is  ...  both.

- GeneG

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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 00:03:32 -0400

On 9/24/22 10:39, Gene Abbondelo wrote:
>  Also looking for a good quality small but powerful utility light that 
> can get into tight places when working underneath a car.  Corded or 
> rechargeable battery.  I looked at stuff at Lowes and Home Depot but 

I highly recommend an LED headlamp.  I have several headlamps but my 
favorite is a warm-tint Armytak Wizard Pro.  It wasn't cheap but it 
produces a nice diffuse light that works really well for working up 
close.  There's a lot to be said for always having your light pointed 
exactly where you're looking while having both hands free.

J

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This is the headlamp I use:. COAST=C2=AE HL5 175 Lumen Utility LED Headlamp=
 with
Hinged Beam Adjustment and Hard Hat Compatibility, black
https://a.co/d/hQ3Lwhi

I also have a couple of rechargeable work lights, for fill-in.  But the
headlamp works best for me.

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<div dir=3D"auto">This is the headlamp I use:. COAST=C2=AE HL5 175 Lumen Ut=
ility LED Headlamp with Hinged Beam Adjustment and Hard Hat Compatibility, =
black <a href=3D"https://a.co/d/hQ3Lwhi">https://a.co/d/hQ3Lwhi</a><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I also have a couple of rechargeable =
work lights, for fill-in.=C2=A0 But the headlamp works best for me.</div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
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om">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
">&gt; For working on cars, I prefer a headlamp (because I don&#39;t have t=
hree arms):<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-headlamp/" =
rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/wir=
ecutter/reviews/best-headlamp/</a><br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
Bar fight time!<br>
<br>
Headlamp vs two or three magnetic/hook utility lights.<br>
<br>
Let the argument begin...;)<br>
<br>
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