Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] electronic parking brake Broke?

From: Mark Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 18:00:59 -0700

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Try:

*Q: How do you reset the electric parking brake on a Honda Civic?*

 1. Switch the ignition to the ON position and shift the gear lever in
    PARK. ...
 2. Pull and release the EPB button to activate the electric parking brake.
 3. Pull and hold the EPB button until you hear a mechanical sound, then
    release the button.b

Or maybe:

How do you reset the electronic parking brake on a 2019 Honda Civic?
*Bring the vehicle to a stop with the brake pedal and shift to NEUTRAL.* 
*Turn off the ignition, and push the parking-brake switch down within 2 
seconds*. The automatic activation will be suspended, and will be 
restored when the vehicle is restarted.

<https://www.hondainfocenter.com/2020/CR-V/Feature-Guide/Engine-Chassis-Features/Electric-Parking-Brake-with-Automatic-Brake-Hold/>And 
if you have fancy tools (but if you do you already know this): 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCnm_nl8KsE

Might help. . .

Regards,

Mark Miller   707-490-5834
[email-masked]

> Hey gang,
>
> My nephew came over last weekend to work on his 2019 Honda Civic.  He's
> getting an "Electronic Parking Brake" error.
>
> I'd never head of such a thing, and electronic parking brake?
>
> I did a little research on youtube and found out what it is, and sure enough
> it IS and electronic parking brake!
>
> So I had some idea what to look for and at when he got here.
>
> He'd had someone replace his rear pads for him.  After that, he started
> getting the error.   The fellow that did the job said, he didn't know anything
> about the electronic parking brakes.  So my thought was that he'd
> disconnected the connector and hadn't put it back.
>
> Well we were lucky.  After we jacked it up and had it on stands, we pulled
> the drivers side first and look at the connector.  It was
> connected.  So I figured, maybe he hadn't do the manual reset of the
> motor.  So I pulled the
> motor and tried to manually turn the sprocket.  NO go.  After a little more
> diagnostics, listening to the motor on the passengers side and hearing the
> motor turn when you set and released the brake, and listening to the driver's
> side motor and NOT hearing anything, we concluded it was bad.
>
> So I start looking for a replacement part.  No dealer appears to have any as
> they are on National Backorder with no expected delivery date.
>
> Unfortunately, the parking brake system is REQUIRED to hold the car for
> State Inspection here in VA.  So my nephew can't get his car state inspected.
> So technically he shouldn't be driving the car.  But as everyone knows, you
> need a car to get to your job.
>
> So any one with a car with an electronic parking brake (EPB)be leary.  I'm
> supprised at the cars that have the EPB system.  Most recient Hondas, BMW
> Lincolns, etc.
>
> Looks to me like a case where the engineers got carried away with the idea
> that electronics don't fail, but mechanical parts do!
>
> John
>
>
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    <p>Try:</p>
    <div class="co8aDb" aria-level="3" role="heading"><b>Q: How do you
        reset the electric parking brake on a Honda Civic?</b></div>
    <ol class="X5LH0c">
      <li class="TrT0Xe">Switch the ignition to the ON position and
        shift the gear lever in PARK. ... </li>
      <li class="TrT0Xe">Pull and release the EPB button to activate the
        electric parking brake.</li>
      <li class="TrT0Xe">Pull and hold the EPB button until you hear a
        mechanical sound, then release the button.b</li>
    </ol>
    <p>Or maybe:<br>
    </p>
    <div class="iDjcJe IX9Lgd wwB5gf" aria-hidden="true"
      id="exacc_7ED0YuCtD8LF9APdm4CYAw5" style="transform:
      translate3d(0px, 0px, 0px);"><span>How do you reset the electronic
        parking brake on a 2019 Honda Civic?</span></div>
    <div id="7ED0YuCtD8LF9APdm4CYAw__11">
      <div class="wDYxhc" data-md="61" style="clear:none">
        <div class="LGOjhe" data-attrid="wa:/description" aria-level="3"
          role="heading" data-hveid="CAYQAA"><span class="ILfuVd"
            lang="en"><span class="hgKElc"><b>Bring the vehicle to a
                stop with the brake pedal and shift to NEUTRAL.</b> <b>Turn
                off the ignition, and push the parking-brake switch down
                within 2 seconds</b>. The automatic activation will be
              suspended, and will be restored when the vehicle is
              restarted.</span></span></div>
      </div>
    </div>
    <a
href="https://www.hondainfocenter.com/2020/CR-V/Feature-Guide/Engine-Chassis-Features/Electric-Parking-Brake-with-Automatic-Brake-Hold/"
      data-jsarwt="1" data-usg="AOvVaw2GFIl2CEyiLpzBCGK9D1cD"
      data-ved="2ahUKEwjg05OduL35AhXCIn0KHd0NADMQFnoECAIQAw"><br>
    </a>And if you have fancy tools (but if you do you already know
    this): <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCnm_nl8KsE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCnm_nl8KsE</a><br>
    <p>Might help. . .<br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Regards,

Mark Miller   707-490-5834
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a></pre>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:[email-masked]">
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hey gang,

My nephew came over last weekend to work on his 2019 Honda Civic.  He's
getting an "Electronic Parking Brake" error.

I'd never head of such a thing, and electronic parking brake?

I did a little research on youtube and found out what it is, and sure enough
it IS and electronic parking brake!

So I had some idea what to look for and at when he got here.

He'd had someone replace his rear pads for him.  After that, he started
getting the error.   The fellow that did the job said, he didn't know anything
about the electronic parking brakes.  So my thought was that he'd 
disconnected the connector and hadn't put it back.

Well we were lucky.  After we jacked it up and had it on stands, we pulled
the drivers side first and look at the connector.  It was 
connected.  So I figured, maybe he hadn't do the manual reset of the 
motor.  So I pulled the
motor and tried to manually turn the sprocket.  NO go.  After a little more
diagnostics, listening to the motor on the passengers side and hearing the
motor turn when you set and released the brake, and listening to the driver's
side motor and NOT hearing anything, we concluded it was bad.

So I start looking for a replacement part.  No dealer appears to have any as
they are on National Backorder with no expected delivery date.

Unfortunately, the parking brake system is REQUIRED to hold the car for
State Inspection here in VA.  So my nephew can't get his car state inspected.
So technically he shouldn't be driving the car.  But as everyone knows, you
need a car to get to your job.

So any one with a car with an electronic parking brake (EPB)be leary.  I'm
supprised at the cars that have the EPB system.  Most recient Hondas, BMW
Lincolns, etc.

Looks to me like a case where the engineers got carried away with the idea
that electronics don't fail, but mechanical parts do!

John

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Thanks to all that commented on the Electronic Parking Brake problem.

I have definately proven that it IS the motor.  The problem is now 
finding the part
as it is on National Back order with no expected delivery date.  I've 
tried all the local
wrecking yards to no avail.  So I'll just have to sit and wait.

John

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Thanks to all that commented on the Electronic Parking Brake
problem.<br><br>
I have definately proven that it IS the motor.&nbsp; The problem is now
finding the part <br>
as it is on National Back order with no expected delivery date.&nbsp;
I've tried all the local<br>
wrecking yards to no avail.&nbsp; So I'll just have to sit and
wait.<br><br>
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        finding the part <br>
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From: John T. Blair <[email-masked]>
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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] electronic parking brake Broke?

Thanks to all that commented on the Electronic Parking Brakeproblem.

I have definately proven that it IS the motor.=C2=A0 The problem is nowfind=
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as it is on National Back order with no expected delivery date.=C2=A0I've t=
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wrecking yards to no avail.=C2=A0 So I'll just have to sit andwait.

John

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From: John T. Blair &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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I have definately proven that it IS the motor.&nbsp; The problem is now
finding the part <br clear=3D"none">
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At 12:20 PM 8/11/2022, John Mitchell wrote:

 >Just wondering,=C2  is a parking brake still an emergency brake?

John,

Good question.  Not sure how to answer that, especally with this electronic=

emergency brake system.  It's showing up as 3 errors on the dash:

1. electronic emergency brake problem
2. brake system problem
3. and a "brake" light light.

Now in the car, there is a "park" brake which 
activates the emergency brake, ie.
both rear calipers, and a brake hold.  Don't know 
the difference.  My guess is that
the hold is for stopping on an incline and 
automatically turns off at a certain rpm.
But I didn't read the owners manual about this.

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&gt;Just wondering,=C2&nbsp; is a parking brake still an emergency
brake?<br><br>
John,<br><br>
Good question.&nbsp; Not sure how to answer that, especally with this
electronic <br>
emergency brake system.&nbsp; It's showing up as 3 errors on the
dash:<br><br>
1. electronic emergency brake problem<br>
2. brake system problem<br>
3. and a &quot;brake&quot; light light.<br><br>
Now in the car, there is a &quot;park&quot; brake which activates the
emergency brake, ie.<br>
both rear calipers, and a brake hold.&nbsp; Don't know the
difference.&nbsp; My guess is that<br>
the hold is for stopping on an incline and automatically turns off at a
certain rpm.<br>
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John<br><br>
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I've had good luck using car-part.com to track down various recycled parts
over the years. You can widen the junkyard search without leaving your
couch!

-Larry

On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 11:08 AM John T. Blair <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I have definately proven that it IS the motor.  The problem is now finding
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Thanks to all that commented on the Electronic Parking Brake
problem.<br><br>
I have definately proven that it IS the motor.=C2=A0 The problem is now
finding the part <br>
as it is on National Back order with no expected delivery date.=C2=A0
I&#39;ve tried all the local<br>
wrecking yards to no avail.=C2=A0 So I&#39;ll just have to sit and
wait.<br><br>
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