Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank

From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 07:49:56 -0500

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You come up with some of the most interesting things, Eric! I can=E2=80=99t h=
elp with most but always look forward to seeing your posts.=20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On May 19, 2022, at 7:47 AM, [email-masked] wrote:

=EF=BB=BFHey gang, it's been quite here lately.=20

I have a 275 gal oil tank that I use for diesel fuel for my tractors.=20

It got the bio-sludge in it.  I have removed all the oil (there was only a l=
ittle left in it.)=20

What is the best way to clean this?  Should I light a fire it in?  Water?  s=
imple green?=20

Any ideas?=20

Thanks.=20

Moose=20

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">You come up with some of the most interesti=
ng things, Eric! I can=E2=80=99t help with most but always look forward to s=
eeing your posts.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<br><br><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br=
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<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I have a 275 gal oil tank that I us=
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for diesel fuel for my tractors.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">It got the bio-sludge in it. &nbsp;=
I
have removed all the oil (there was only a little left in it.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">What is the best way to clean this?=

&nbsp;Should I light a fire it in? &nbsp;Water? &nbsp;simple green?</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Any ideas?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
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Fire is an interesting solution, and will certainly inactivate most
biologicals, but can be difficult to tame.

What about bleach?

On Thu, May 19, 2022, 08:47 <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Hey gang, it's been quite here lately.
>
> I have a 275 gal oil tank that I use for diesel fuel for my tractors.
>
> It got the bio-sludge in it.  I have removed all the oil (there was only a
> little left in it.)
>
> What is the best way to clean this?  Should I light a fire it in?  Water?
>  simple green?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Moose
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<div dir=3D"auto">Fire is an interesting solution, and will certainly inact=
ivate most biologicals, but can be difficult to tame.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">What about bleach?</div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 1=
9, 2022, 08:47  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font size=3D"2" fac=
e=3D"sans-serif">Hey gang, it&#39;s been quite here lately.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I have a 275 gal oil tank that I u=
se
for diesel fuel for my tractors.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">It got the bio-sludge in it.=C2=A0=
 I
have removed all the oil (there was only a little left in it.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">What is the best way to clean this=
?
=C2=A0Should I light a fire it in?=C2=A0 Water? =C2=A0simple green?</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Any ideas?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
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How much bleach would I need for that size tank?  What water mixture ratio 
do you think would work?

From:   Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
To:     [email-masked]
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Date:   05/19/2022 09:20 AM
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank

What about bleach?

Any ideas? 

Thanks. 

Moose 

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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">How much bleach would I need for that size
tank? &nbsp;What water mixture ratio do you think would work?</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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&nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Jeff Scarbrough &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</font>
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Cleaning an oil tank</font>
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<br><font size=3>Fire is an interesting solution, and will certainly inactivate
most biologicals, but can be difficult to tame.&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>What about bleach?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3>On Thu, May 19, 2022, 08:47 &lt;</font><a href=mailto:[email-masked]><font size=3 color=blue><u>[email-masked]</u></font></a><font size=3>&gt;
wrote:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hey gang, it's been quite here lately.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
I have a 275 gal oil tank that I use for diesel fuel for my tractors.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
It got the bio-sludge in it.&nbsp; I have removed all the oil (there was
only a little left in it.)</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
What is the best way to clean this? &nbsp;Should I light a fire it in?&nbsp;
Water? &nbsp;simple green?</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Any ideas?</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Thanks.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Moose</font><font size=3> <br>
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
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10% for 10 minutes is what we used in the biosafety business.  There may be
other products such as quaternary solutions that might also work at lower
rates.

10% of a biocidal bleach could be 15 jugs - could get expensive.  There

Aren't their products that prevent biosludge in Diesel fuel? We used to get
a jug of something to pour in the 1400 gallon generator tank to keep it
from growing...Would that work to eliminate the problem?

I found this link to a video that may be a sales pitch, but illustrates one
such product to clean the tank.

https://youtu.be/mMLrtVa6yVI

Search I used to find that:
https://www.google.com/search?q=eliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+storage+tanks&oq=eliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+sto

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<div dir=3D"auto">10% for 10 minutes is what we used in the biosafety busin=
ess.=C2=A0 There may be other products such as quaternary solutions that mi=
ght also work at lower rates.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
10% of a biocidal bleach could be 15 jugs - could get expensive.=C2=A0 Ther=
e=C2=A0<br><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Aren&#39;t their p=
roducts that prevent biosludge in Diesel fuel? We used to get a jug of some=
thing to pour in the 1400 gallon generator tank to keep it from growing...W=
ould that work to eliminate the problem?=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I found this link to a video that may be a sal=
es pitch, but illustrates one such product to clean the tank.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/mMLrtVa6y=
VI">https://youtu.be/mMLrtVa6yVI</a><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"auto">Search I used to find that: <a href=3D"https://www.google.=
com/search?q=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+storage+tanks&amp;oq=3Delimi=
nate+biosludge+from+diesel+sto">https://www.google.com/search?q=3Deliminate=
+biosludge+from+diesel+storage+tanks&amp;oq=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+dies=
el+sto</a></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 19, 2022, 09:=
26  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
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rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-se=
rif">How much bleach would I need for that size
tank?=C2=A0 What water mixture ratio do you think would work?</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Cleaning an oil tank</font>
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<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3">Fire is an interesting solution, and will certainly in=
activate
most biologicals, but can be difficult to tame.=C2=A0=C2=A0</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3">What about bleach?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"3">On Thu, May 19, 2022, 08:47 &lt;</font><a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><font size=3D"3"=
 color=3D"blue"><u>[email-masked]</u></font></a><font size=3D"3">&gt;
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<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Hey gang, it&#39;s been quite here=
 lately.</font><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
I have a 275 gal oil tank that I use for diesel fuel for my tractors.</font=
><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
It got the bio-sludge in it.=C2=A0 I have removed all the oil (there was
only a little left in it.)</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
What is the best way to clean this?=C2=A0 Should I light a fire it in?=C2=
=A0
Water? =C2=A0simple green?</font><font size=3D"3"> </font><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Any ideas?</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Thanks.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
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 little left in it.)=20
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 simple green?=20

Mechanical removal is the only way to deal with build up luke that.  An air p=
owered vac is best, assuming the tank doesn=E2=80=99t have access covers, to=
 reach through. Once you get most of it, you can put diesel in, and polish i=
t. (Recirculating pump with good filters. )
There are services that do this commercially, if you would prefer to buy you=
rself out of the problem.=20

Using water to clean it will generate huge amounts of contaminated waste wat=
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The anti sludge addives work going forward.=20

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<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I have a 275 gal oil tank that I us=
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for diesel fuel for my tractors.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">It got the bio-sludge in it. &nbsp;=
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have removed all the oil (there was only a little left in it.)</font>
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<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">What is the best way to clean this?=

&nbsp;Should I light a fire it in? &nbsp;Water? &nbsp;simple green?</font>
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y to deal with build up luke that. &nbsp;An air powered vac is best, assumin=
g the tank doesn=E2=80=99t have access covers, to reach through. Once you ge=
t most of it, you can put diesel in, and polish it. (Recirculating pump with=
 good filters. )</div><div>There are services that do this commercially, if y=
ou would prefer to buy yourself out of the problem.&nbsp;</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Using water to clean it will generate huge amounts of contaminated wa=
ste water.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The anti sludge add=
ives work going forward.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><=
/div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D=
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Any ideas?</font>
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<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks.</font>
<br>
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From: Jack Brooks <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 14:14:13 +0000

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While i don't remember the price, Costco sells a three pack of bleach at a =
surprisingly good price.
________________________________
From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Jeff Scarbr=
ough <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:38:28 AM
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank

10% for 10 minutes is what we used in the biosafety business.  There may be=
 other products such as quaternary solutions that might also work at lower =
rates.

Aren't their products that prevent biosludge in Diesel fuel? We used to get=
 a jug of something to pour in the 1400 gallon generator tank to keep it fr=
om growing...Would that work to eliminate the problem?

I found this link to a video that may be a sales pitch, but illustrates one=
 such product to clean the tank.

Search I used to find that: https://www.google.com/search?q=3Deliminate+bio=
sludge+from+diesel+storage+tanks&oq=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+sto

rote:
How much bleach would I need for that size tank?  What water mixture ratio =
do you think would work?

m>>
Date:        05/19/2022 09:20 AM
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank
________________________________

Fire is an interesting solution, and will certainly inactivate most biologi=
cals, but can be difficult to tame.

What about bleach?

rote:

It got the bio-sludge in it.  I have removed all the oil (there was only a =
little left in it.)

Any ideas?

Thanks.

Moose

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While i don't remember the price, Costco sells a three pack of bleach at a =
surprisingly good price.&nbsp;
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1">
<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" st=
yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk &lt;shop-ta=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Jeff Scarbrough &lt;fishplate@gm=
ail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:38:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"auto">10% for 10 minutes is what we used in the biosafety busin=
ess.&nbsp; There may be other products such as quaternary solutions that mi=
ght also work at lower rates.
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">10% of a biocidal bleach could be 15 jugs - could get exp=
ensive.&nbsp; There&nbsp;<br>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Aren't their products that prevent biosludge in Diesel fu=
el? We used to get a jug of something to pour in the 1400 gallon generator =
tank to keep it from growing...Would that work to eliminate the problem?&nb=
sp;&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I found this link to a video that may be a sales pitch, b=
ut illustrates one such product to clean the tank.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/mMLrtVa6yVI">https://youtu.be=
/mMLrtVa6yVI</a><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Search I used to find that: <a href=3D"https://www.google=
.com/search?q=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+storage+tanks&amp;oq=3Delim=
inate+biosludge+from+diesel+sto">
https://www.google.com/search?q=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+storage+t=
anks&amp;oq=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+sto</a></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Thu, May 19, 2022, 09:26 &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left=
:1px #ccc solid; padding-left:1ex">
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">How much bleach would I need for that =
size tank?&nbsp; What water mixture ratio do you think would work?</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">From: &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Jeff Scarbrough &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferre=
r">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</font>
<br>
<font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif"><a href=3D"mailto:er=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>=
</font>
<br>
<font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Cc: &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">&quot;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">shop-tal=
[email-masked]</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</font=
<br>
<font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Date: &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">05/19/2022 09:20 A=
M</font>
<br>
<font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Subject: &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Re: [Shop-talk]=
 Cleaning an oil tank</font>
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<hr noshade=3D"">
<br>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"3">Fire is an interesting solution, and will certainly inacti=
vate most biologicals, but can be difficult to tame.&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"3">What about bleach?</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D"3">On Thu, May 19, 2022, 08:47 &lt;</font><a href=3D"mailto:e=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><font size=3D"3" col=
or=3D"blue"><u>[email-masked]</u></font></a><font size=3D"3">&gt; wrote:=
</font>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Hey gang, it's been quite here lately.=
</font><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
I have a 275 gal oil tank that I use for diesel fuel for my tractors.</font=
<br>
It got the bio-sludge in it.&nbsp; I have removed all the oil (there was on=
ly a little left in it.)</font><font size=3D"3">
What is the best way to clean this?&nbsp; Should I light a fire it in?&nbsp=
; Water? &nbsp;simple green?</font><font size=3D"3">
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 10:15:59 -0400

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Be careful with bleach. It will wreck any exposed steel in the tank.

-Paul

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:15 AM Jack Brooks <[email-masked]> wrote:

> While i don't remember the price, Costco sells a three pack of bleach at a
> surprisingly good price.
> *From:* Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Jeff
> Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:38:28 AM
> *To:* [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank
>
> 10% for 10 minutes is what we used in the biosafety business.  There may
> be other products such as quaternary solutions that might also work at
> lower rates.
>
> Aren't their products that prevent biosludge in Diesel fuel? We used to
> get a jug of something to pour in the 1400 gallon generator tank to keep it
> I found this link to a video that may be a sales pitch, but illustrates
> one such product to clean the tank.
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Be careful with bleach. It will wreck any exposed ste=
el in the tank.</div><div><br></div><div>-Paul</div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:15=
 AM Jack Brooks &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div>
While i don&#39;t remember the price, Costco sells a three pack of bleach a=
t a surprisingly good price.=C2=A0
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"gmail-m_7597755154499235170divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=
=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From=
:</b> Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Jeff S=
carbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">fish=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:38:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">eric@mega=
geek.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">eri=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">sh=
[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"auto">10% for 10 minutes is what we used in the biosafety busin=
ess.=C2=A0 There may be other products such as quaternary solutions that mi=
ght also work at lower rates.
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">10% of a biocidal bleach could be 15 jugs - could get exp=
ensive.=C2=A0 There=C2=A0<br>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Aren&#39;t their products that prevent biosludge in Diese=
l fuel? We used to get a jug of something to pour in the 1400 gallon genera=
tor tank to keep it from growing...Would that work to eliminate the problem=
?=C2=A0=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I found this link to a video that may be a sales pitch, b=
ut illustrates one such product to clean the tank.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/mMLrtVa6yVI" target=3D"_blank=
">https://youtu.be/mMLrtVa6yVI</a><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Search I used to find that: <a href=3D"https://www.google=
.com/search?q=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+storage+tanks&amp;oq=3Delim=
inate+biosludge+from+diesel+sto" target=3D"_blank">
https://www.google.com/search?q=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+storage+t=
anks&amp;oq=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+sto</a></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, May 19, 2022, 09:26 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eric@meg=
ageek.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">How much bleach would I need for that =
size tank?=C2=A0 What water mixture ratio do you think would work?</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">From: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Jeff Scarbrough &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</font>
<br>
<font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">To: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif"><a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a></font>
<br>
<font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Cc: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">&quot;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">shop-t=
[email-masked]</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</fo=
nt>
<br>
<font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Date: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">05/19/2022 09:20 A=
M</font>
<br>
<font size=3D"1" color=3D"#5f5f5f" face=3D"sans-serif">Subject: =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0</font><font size=3D"1" face=3D"sans-serif">Re: [Shop-talk=
] Cleaning an oil tank</font>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"3">Fire is an interesting solution, and will certainly inacti=
vate most biologicals, but can be difficult to tame.=C2=A0=C2=A0</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"3">What about bleach?</font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D"3">On Thu, May 19, 2022, 08:47 &lt;</font><a href=3D"mailto:e=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D"3" col=
or=3D"blue"><u>[email-masked]</u></font></a><font size=3D"3">&gt; wrote:=
</font>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Hey gang, it&#39;s been quite here lat=
ely.</font><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
I have a 275 gal oil tank that I use for diesel fuel for my tractors.</font=
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
It got the bio-sludge in it.=C2=A0 I have removed all the oil (there was on=
ly a little left in it.)</font><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
What is the best way to clean this?=C2=A0 Should I light a fire it in?=C2=
=A0 Water? =C2=A0simple green?</font><font size=3D"3">
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Any ideas?</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Thanks.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Moose</font><font size=3D"3"><br></font></blockquote></div></div></div>
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From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 11:37:45 -0500

> Be careful with bleach. It will wreck any exposed steel in the tank.

It will also not work against sludge.  it might kill some of the
microbes that are present, but it will not penetrate into the sludge,
and it won't do much for the actual sludge.  It will also generate
large quantities of water contaminated with diesel, which can't be
dumped on the ground or down a drain.   Mechanical removal is the only
real solution for that, either by reaching in and scooping it out,
using a vacuum, or breaking it up with agitation (put a piece of chain
in and shaking works well), and pumping it out with the fuel (through
filters, obviously.)

-- 
David Scheidt
[email-masked]

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From: "Doug Armstrong" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 14:17:44 -0400

If you are able to break it up into pieces, you may want to consider hiring
a local dry-ice blasting company.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry-ice_blasting 

It has been used to remove sound deadening insulation in cars.

Doug Armstrong

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From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of David
Scheidt
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 12:38 PM
To: Paul Parkanzky <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank

> Be careful with bleach. It will wreck any exposed steel in the tank.

It will also not work against sludge.  it might kill some of the microbes
that are present, but it will not penetrate into the sludge, and it won't do
much for the actual sludge.  It will also generate large quantities of water
contaminated with diesel, which can't be
dumped on the ground or down a drain.   Mechanical removal is the only
real solution for that, either by reaching in and scooping it out, using a
vacuum, or breaking it up with agitation (put a piece of chain in and
shaking works well), and pumping it out with the fuel (through filters,
obviously.)

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