Using water to clean it will generate huge amounts of contaminated wa= ste water.

The anti sludge add= ives work going forward.

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Any ideas?

Thanks.

Moose

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There may be= other products such as quaternary solutions that might also work at lower = rates. 10% of a biocidal bleach could be 15 jugs - could get expensive. There Aren't their products that prevent biosludge in Diesel fuel? We used to get= a jug of something to pour in the 1400 gallon generator tank to keep it fr= om growing...Would that work to eliminate the problem? I found this link to a video that may be a sales pitch, but illustrates one= such product to clean the tank. https://youtu.be/mMLrtVa6yVI Search I used to find that: https://www.google.com/search?q=3Deliminate+bio= sludge+from+diesel+storage+tanks&oq=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+sto rote: How much bleach would I need for that size tank? What water mixture ratio = do you think would work? m>> Date: 05/19/2022 09:20 AM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank ________________________________ Fire is an interesting solution, and will certainly inactivate most biologi= cals, but can be difficult to tame. What about bleach? rote: Hey gang, it's been quite here lately. I have a 275 gal oil tank that I use for diesel fuel for my tractors. It got the bio-sludge in it. I have removed all the oil (there was only a = little left in it.) What is the best way to clean this? Should I light a fire it in? Water? = simple green? Any ideas? Thanks. Moose _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/arch= ive te@gmail.com --_000_CY5PR11MB653368D2AB103B318E60BAB4A8D09CY5PR11MB6533namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable While i don't remember the price, Costco sells a three pack of bleach at a = surprisingly good price.

From: Shop-talk <shop-ta= lk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gm= ail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:38:28 AM
To: eric@megageek.com <eric@megageek.com>
Cc: shop-talk@autox.team.net <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank

10% for 10 minutes is what we used in the biosafety busin= ess. There may be other products such as quaternary solutions that mi= ght also work at lower rates.

10% of a biocidal bleach could be 15 jugs - could get exp= ensive. There

Aren't their products that prevent biosludge in Diesel fu= el? We used to get a jug of something to pour in the 1400 gallon generator = tank to keep it from growing...Would that work to eliminate the problem?&nb= sp;

I found this link to a video that may be a sales pitch, b= ut illustrates one such product to clean the tank.

https://youtu.be= /mMLrtVa6yVI

Search I used to find that: https://www.google.com/search?q=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+storage+t= anks&oq=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+sto

On Thu, May 19, 2022, 09:26 <eric@megageek.com> wrote:

How much bleach would I need for that = size tank? What water mixture ratio do you think would work?

From: = Jeff Scarbrough &l= t;fishplate@gmail.com>
To: &n= bsp; eric@megageek.com=
Cc: &n= bsp; "shop-tal= k@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: = 05/19/2022 09:20 A= M
Subject: &nbs= p; Re: [Shop-talk]= Cleaning an oil tank

Fire is an interesting solution, and will certainly inacti= vate most biologicals, but can be difficult to tame.

What about bleach?

On Thu, May 19, 2022, 08:47 <eric@megageek.com> wrote:=
Hey gang, it's been quite here lately.=

I have a 275 gal oil tank that I use for diesel fuel for my tractors.

It got the bio-sludge in it. I have removed all the oil (there was on= ly a little left in it.)

What is the best way to clean this? Should I light a fire it in? = ; Water? simple green?

Any ideas?

Thanks.

Moose

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From: Paul Parkanzky Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 10:15:59 -0400 To: Jack Brooks Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1353409499245013470== --000000000000fb11e605df5e0306 Be careful with bleach. It will wreck any exposed steel in the tank. -Paul On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:15 AM Jack Brooks wrote: > While i don't remember the price, Costco sells a three pack of bleach at a > surprisingly good price. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Shop-talk on behalf of Jeff > Scarbrough > *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:38:28 AM > *To:* eric@megageek.com > *Cc:* shop-talk@autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank > > 10% for 10 minutes is what we used in the biosafety business. There may > be other products such as quaternary solutions that might also work at > lower rates. > > 10% of a biocidal bleach could be 15 jugs - could get expensive. There > > Aren't their products that prevent biosludge in Diesel fuel? We used to > get a jug of something to pour in the 1400 gallon generator tank to keep it > from growing...Would that work to eliminate the problem? > > I found this link to a video that may be a sales pitch, but illustrates > one such product to clean the tank. > > https://youtu.be/mMLrtVa6yVI > > Search I used to find that: > https://www.google.com/search?q=eliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+storage+tanks&oq=eliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+sto > > > On Thu, May 19, 2022, 09:26 wrote: > > How much bleach would I need for that size tank? What water mixture ratio > do you think would work? > > > > From: Jeff Scarbrough > To: eric@megageek.com > Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" > Date: 05/19/2022 09:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank > ------------------------------ > > > > Fire is an interesting solution, and will certainly inactivate most > biologicals, but can be difficult to tame. > > What about bleach? > > On Thu, May 19, 2022, 08:47 <*eric@megageek.com* > > wrote: > Hey gang, it's been quite here lately. > > I have a 275 gal oil tank that I use for diesel fuel for my tractors. > > It got the bio-sludge in it. I have removed all the oil (there was only a > little left in it.) > > What is the best way to clean this? Should I light a fire it in? Water? > simple green? > > Any ideas? > > Thanks. > > Moose > > > --000000000000fb11e605df5e0306 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Be careful with bleach. It will wreck any exposed ste= el in the tank.

-Paul

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:15= AM Jack Brooks <jibrooks@live.com<= /a>> wrote:

While i don't remember the price, Costco sells a three pack of bleach a= t a surprisingly good price.=C2=A0

From= : Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Jeff S= carbrough <fish= plate@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:38:28 AM
To: eric@mega= geek.com <eri= c@megageek.com>
Cc: sh= op-talk@autox.team.net <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank
=C2=A0

10% for 10 minutes is what we used in the biosafety busin= ess.=C2=A0 There may be other products such as quaternary solutions that mi= ght also work at lower rates.

10% of a biocidal bleach could be 15 jugs - could get exp= ensive.=C2=A0 There=C2=A0

Aren't their products that prevent biosludge in Diese= l fuel? We used to get a jug of something to pour in the 1400 gallon genera= tor tank to keep it from growing...Would that work to eliminate the problem= ?=C2=A0=C2=A0

I found this link to a video that may be a sales pitch, b= ut illustrates one such product to clean the tank.

https://youtu.be/mMLrtVa6yVI

Search I used to find that: https://www.google.com/search?q=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+storage+t= anks&oq=3Deliminate+biosludge+from+diesel+sto

On Thu, May 19, 2022, 09:26 <eric@megageek.com> wrote:

How much bleach would I need for that = size tank?=C2=A0 What water mixture ratio do you think would work?

From: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jeff Scarbrough &l= t;fishplate@gmail.com>
To: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0eric@megageek.com
Cc: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0"shop-t= alk@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A005/19/2022 09:20 A= M
Subject: =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Re: [Shop-talk= ] Cleaning an oil tank

Fire is an interesting solution, and will certainly inacti= vate most biologicals, but can be difficult to tame.=C2=A0=C2=A0

What about bleach?

On Thu, May 19, 2022, 08:47 <eric@megageek.com> wrote:=
Hey gang, it's been quite here lat= ely.

I have a 275 gal oil tank that I use for diesel fuel for my tractors.

It got the bio-sludge in it.=C2=A0 I have removed all the oil (there was on= ly a little left in it.)

What is the best way to clean this?=C2=A0 Should I light a fire it in?=C2= =A0 Water? =C2=A0simple green?

Any ideas?

Thanks.

Moose

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From: David Scheidt Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 11:37:45 -0500 To: Paul Parkanzky Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:16 AM Paul Parkanzky wrote: > > Be careful with bleach. It will wreck any exposed steel in the tank. It will also not work against sludge. it might kill some of the microbes that are present, but it will not penetrate into the sludge, and it won't do much for the actual sludge. It will also generate large quantities of water contaminated with diesel, which can't be dumped on the ground or down a drain. Mechanical removal is the only real solution for that, either by reaching in and scooping it out, using a vacuum, or breaking it up with agitation (put a piece of chain in and shaking works well), and pumping it out with the fuel (through filters, obviously.) -- David Scheidt dmscheidt@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu May 19 12:18:08 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CF1A0A0E for ; Thu, 19 May 2022 12:18:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nexicom.net (unknown [216.168.96.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7D9A082C for ; Thu, 19 May 2022 12:17:45 -0600 (MDT) x-ip-name=98.124.17.127; Received: from DESKTOPGTRP1AU (unverified [98.124.17.127]) by nexicom.net (SurgeMail 6.6d) with ESMTP id 234239439-1712458 for multiple; Thu, 19 May 2022 14:17:45 -0400 From: "Doug Armstrong" To: "'David Scheidt'" , "'Paul Parkanzky'" References:

Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 14:17:44 -0400 Thread-Index: AQIniQ+QkodVPfAB61D4ZgMBWmOtqAGO7Q9BAd8eSbMBhenLoQLRcQbsAj6x5XECjtpyqawjrniQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net If you are able to break it up into pieces, you may want to consider hiring a local dry-ice blasting company. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry-ice_blasting It has been used to remove sound deadening insulation in cars. Doug Armstrong -----Original Message----- From: Shop-talk On Behalf Of David Scheidt Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 12:38 PM To: Paul Parkanzky Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cleaning an oil tank On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 9:16 AM Paul Parkanzky wrote: > > Be careful with bleach. It will wreck any exposed steel in the tank. It will also not work against sludge. it might kill some of the microbes that are present, but it will not penetrate into the sludge, and it won't do much for the actual sludge. It will also generate large quantities of water contaminated with diesel, which can't be dumped on the ground or down a drain. Mechanical removal is the only real solution for that, either by reaching in and scooping it out, using a vacuum, or breaking it up with agitation (put a piece of chain in and shaking works well), and pumping it out with the fuel (through filters, obviously.) -- David Scheidt dmscheidt@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/darmstrong@nexicom.net -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 22 12:03:39 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F43A1103 for ; Sun, 22 May 2022 12:03:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lj1-f169.google.com (unknown [209.85.208.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400C9A10E4 for ; Sun, 22 May 2022 12:03:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f169.google.com with SMTP id v9so5544328lja.12 for ; Sun, 22 May 2022 11:03:21 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=c1Dpj344+tzmnjlxnBAg9Zr5+8baDnL4KkcAfpZynew=; b=iW3frAnxyOGObkjujDkmWe+SFPU/1zfT6LLRRZ2DxhPFxWDQIi+IlBEGxyXdK7P2UZ 7k7ZMEB1mcghk6SMyXVBv8jRiyM0+5k/uz53A+lDkO/wBetE68eNdT/Tj0vmuQ0nu5AM hQn1whw/qnEYI/odBezAMSDaGXlclrXlwSbaKj6v7tRecB0vIcNp5CKdw1qmC9EPMocj nJdvlPBLdiD7FcxrjpDobg1pE05KZUiD+sZiTI3SJRWyx2Ilw7ktEbn7GZR4HbsHv1fL WuAOY8uNGqYlC969xUVdpNPjiv2cKsmaguIeV3dD69F3HuEU7i/kbFOVTQUT0tpnc7mV aLCA== d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=c1Dpj344+tzmnjlxnBAg9Zr5+8baDnL4KkcAfpZynew=; b=UDZwLAvfGSkeNV4QFv/ZFd0Ov20UXZD5A5MFWudneXXkPPtF5VrzjBrKTXqC2c5Cnz Vgs8DttLEmvBHkQ2zl/sJDAWffmIQBM8GWf5sdq0p/cvHJP5WMjqyp96gZ7fyHb3OrYr UYZeqOkA9jHvETqjinZSXXmUPsQ0cDHjiaqShFVBTJN77G4AyTAwI3tmCdBy5UOmZ9FM 0t3BYATC6u/gbxBGNnT9AqiKx+c8N79PEB7Lou4NjR9GZQnDHV0NYnCJe1e5tKlV6vTW bo4wwCvV+OXc+TbgppJ6SDf9CfRbMI3OD8OqixdbnAUB1bR1gvF3SWQMzpEu7Ibb8PES KtAw== lOeoTWKFw0Lbpl+sgG53O9xvzzAO+Wz7rN7pFiThaMFI i10-20020a2e864a000000b00253cc11f216mr11186078ljj.405.1653242600390; Sun, 22 May 2022 11:03:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Scarbrough Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 14:03:09 -0400 To: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Subject: [Shop-talk] Hydraulic Jack Diagnosis Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0509793066344882642== --000000000000ec85d705df9d89db Just trying to keep from going down the wrong rabbit hole.. On Thursday, I think I blew up the TR6 differential. I pulled out my handy Craftsman 3.5 ton floor jack (50145) and discovered it will not raise any weight. It will pump up with no load, and does not seem to creep down under the load of my immense personal bulk. To me, this indicates a pump problem - seals or valves. It is full of oil, and has worked well for the last 25 years or so. I found a kit that seems reputable for $30 ( https://www.hcrcnow.com/shop/seal-kits/product/8118 ) that contains all the seals to rebuild it, but that place doesn't carry oil. I can get any number of different brands of jack oil locally, so I don't think that's going to be a problem. Any other thing I might check before I pull the trigger? --000000000000ec85d705df9d89db Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just trying to keep from going down the wrong rabbit hole= ..=C2=A0 =C2=A0On Thursday, I think I blew up the TR6 differential.=C2=A0 I= pulled out my handy Craftsman 3.5 ton floor jack (50145) and discovered it= will not raise any weight.=C2=A0 It will pump up with no load, and does no= t seem to creep down under the load of my immense personal bulk.=C2=A0 To m= e, this indicates a pump problem - seals or valves.=C2=A0 It is full of oil= , and has worked well for the last 25 years or so.

I found a kit that seems reputable for $30 ( https://www.hcrcno= w.com/shop/seal-kits/product/8118 ) that contains all the seals to rebu= ild it, but that place doesn't carry oil.=C2=A0 I can get any number of= different brands of jack oil locally, so I don't think that's goin= g to be a problem.

Any o= ther thing I might check before I pull the trigger?

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Sometimes that will move crud away from wherever it is= causing the problem. If that doesn=E2=80=99t work just take the pump apart t= o see how the seals & bore look. Can=E2=80=99t hurt.=20 Peace, Pat Pat Horne=20 We support Habitat for Humanity On May 22, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: =EF=BB=BF Just trying to keep from going down the wrong rabbit hole.. On Thursday, I= think I blew up the TR6 differential. I pulled out my handy Craftsman 3.5 t= on floor jack (50145) and discovered it will not raise any weight. It will p= ump up with no load, and does not seem to creep down under the load of my im= mense personal bulk. To me, this indicates a pump problem - seals or valves= . It is full of oil, and has worked well for the last 25 years or so. I found a kit that seems reputable for $30 ( https://www.hcrcnow.com/shop/se= al-kits/product/8118 ) that contains all the seals to rebuild it, but that p= lace doesn't carry oil. I can get any number of different brands of jack oi= l locally, so I don't think that's going to be a problem. Any other thing I might check before I pull the trigger? _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archi= ve as@icloud.com --Apple-Mail-45F7FF1C-076F-4184-8053-88C54239D3A4 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff, I=E2=80=99d try opening the valve &am= p; then pull the saddle up & let it go down a green times. Sometimes tha= t will move crud away from wherever it is causing the problem. If that doesn= =E2=80=99t work just take the pump apart to see how the seals & bore loo= k. Can=E2=80=99t hurt.

Peace,

Pat

=

Pat Horne

We support Habitat for Humanity

On May 22, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Jeff Sc= arbrough <fishplate@gmail.com> wrote:

=EF= =BB=BF

Just trying to keep from going down the wrong rabbit= hole.. On Thursday, I think I blew up the TR6 differential.&nbs= p; I pulled out my handy Craftsman 3.5 ton floor jack (50145) and discovered= it will not raise any weight. It will pump up with no load, and does n= ot seem to creep down under the load of my immense personal bulk. To m= e, this indicates a pump problem - seals or valves. It is full of oil,= and has worked well for the last 25 years or so.

I found a kit that seems reputable for $30 ( https://www.hcrcnow.com/= shop/seal-kits/product/8118 ) that contains all the seals to rebuild it,= but that place doesn't carry oil. I can get any number of different b= rands of jack oil locally, so I don't think that's going to be a problem.

Any other thing I might che= ck before I pull the trigger?

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Sun, 22 May 2022 13:03:45 -0700 (PDT) References: <2db189f8-1103-c3b2-ed97-7bd401da0ff3@protonmail.com> From: Jeff Scarbrough Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 16:03:32 -0400 To: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Hydraulic Jack Diagnosis Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > That's an odd set of symptoms Indeed. I went through the bleeding instructions...with each stroke of the pump, I can see oil moving in the reservoir (with the release valve open). This tells me the air is out and the pump is moving fluid....but...while testing this, I left the handle in the midway position (with the release valve closed), and noticed that it falls to horizontal pretty quickly. This seems to be further evidence that something is wrong with the pump. The jack itself does not seem to drift down. On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 2:18 PM Donald H Locker wrote: > > That's an odd set of symptoms. An inability to raise a load sounds like > air in the hydraulic system. Leaking seals or valves would cause a load > to drop with oil passing through the seal/valve. > > With no load, the air pressure doesn't collapse the bubble so the jack > rises; but with a load, any pressure collapses the bubble instead of > raising the load. The fact that it holds after it was raised supports > this hypothesis. > > I think just opening the oil filler screw (and maybe topping the oil) > will fix it. > > HTH, > Donald. > > On 2022-05-22 14:03, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > > Just trying to keep from going down the wrong rabbit hole.. On > > Thursday, I think I blew up the TR6 differential. I pulled out my handy > > Craftsman 3.5 ton floor jack (50145) and discovered it will not raise > > any weight. It will pump up with no load, and does not seem to creep > > down under the load of my immense personal bulk. To me, this indicates > > a pump problem - seals or valves. It is full of oil, and has worked > > well for the last 25 years or so. > > > > I found a kit that seems reputable for $30 ( > > https://www.hcrcnow.com/shop/seal-kits/product/8118 > > ) that contains > > all the seals to rebuild it, but that place doesn't carry oil. I can > > get any number of different brands of jack oil locally, so I don't think > > that's going to be a problem. > > > > Any other thing I might check before I pull the trigger? > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 29 11:11:26 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC8AA0613 for ; Sun, 29 May 2022 11:11:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lf1-f53.google.com (unknown [209.85.167.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A33A0613 for ; Sun, 29 May 2022 11:11:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f53.google.com with SMTP id v8so13606621lfd.8 for ; Sun, 29 May 2022 10:11:17 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hZQ8JF1FnOVYbhxuIFXPMkv5qwcSsadnb4Gwox9QLOk=; b=pl+fYcXAtws31q/4uT49Gg8zQEvDcgvS6TIANYwRJw0yjuy43ZAPL/Nva5nGfl8uLj v/mA58y3ohBW9s5uxAjz7mT0IkfKNCX/0p3khEqXFMtg+rzmG5ErfbEDdxFQeUH/vT9P PmNFbTmzvBhfTNyXr3qLZR/G7waeUO6w4lsFimD1c0lcN9XM4JYWmDS7UtoRCsxq+0ef GiVG3d48ih1P1CDbUoUooxIJN4zqHTIYC5VB8c0RWQ9im5AmUbCSTPqD09Ds+I6I5Jx0 L6YvvqLvpSMO8NWBTcf5tjDmIGuhPK00L+7kjsanr7U4zv6OnIEOThcKs0EsHWLWuy3M R0Mw== d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hZQ8JF1FnOVYbhxuIFXPMkv5qwcSsadnb4Gwox9QLOk=; b=KTJ5fElzJzg2PRqSeMFhDWKozVWs2JoK8vrSZG+YaRePGTAaLnShjBk2heIwjVzuDT qD3UlgZRBGtPx0p48DSapXKZF+w6chRpe6gXtTt/w+/SdP2ji9lWC/9zG2VV44lUO9dx KRkMijexDG4Y7wr0dg6vtHL5a8n/AXTYcDF/bgiY4Oesima8QJFz7JFZTsN3TJGetPXE qJZryDJjMJcCS7teqpkVKa3P/ewbpaymH1jXY5GaqFOQzwKWk+CwEYwHJtu7naNbUf80 t9M14T/xKwxrzUeMuGSvkuNkZxF1K5Gu/8XV4qQlw1HIy9ZZsCz0EdABgvmb2nBL84d4 7x1Q== xvGT4Qrgpojnqh3bP97MzXuE74vI4CrFbFWqlkbsO4fP k3-20020a05651210c300b00478ae120949mr14856318lfg.104.1653844276100; Sun, 29 May 2022 10:11:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Scarbrough Date: Sun, 29 May 2022 13:11:04 -0400 To: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire Pressure Gauges Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============9200911382812326064== --00000000000097413605e029a0dc A couple of tire pressure gauge questions: I got tired of cheap Horrible Freight tire inflators, so I sprung for a brace of Milton S-506 inflators, thinking of they were good enough for the gas station of my youth, they ought to be ok now. One in the garage, one in the shop...they don't see a ton of use. Last week, I was filling bicycle tires in the garage with the hotdog compressor, and couldn't get the air up sufficiently in the tire. Finally went to get another gauge...my electronic gauge quit, and my 50 years old Bridgeport Brass gauge needs rebuilding, so I grabbed the.othwr Milton inflator. Turns out, I had missed blowing up the bicycle tires only by a miracle of Chinese rubber. One inflator reads 50 psi while the other one reads 90. So, like when two inmates at the asylum both claim to be Napoleon, at least one of them is lying. And at least one will need repairing. So, two questions:. 1. Any suggestions for a good reliable electronic or analog pressure gauge to verify/calibrate the inflators? (I also need one to put in my daughter's car, so gloveboxability is a plus). 2. Anyone ever repair a Milton (or Bridgeport) tire gauge? Any suggestions? The Milton's aren't very old, especially in terms of what we old guys expect from our expensive American made tools. Bonus question:. How might one calibrate a pressure gauge against a primary source? I'm thinking of a water column or something, but 35 psi is approximately 80 feet of water. I'm finding that impractical for home use. --00000000000097413605e029a0dc Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

A couple of tire pressure gauge questions:

I got tired of cheap Horrible Freight tire i= nflators, so I sprung for a brace of Milton S-506 inflators, thinking of th= ey were good enough for the gas station of my youth, they ought to be ok no= w.=C2=A0 One in the garage, one in the shop...they don't see a ton of u= se.=C2=A0 Last week, I was filling bicycle tires in the garage with the hot= dog compressor, and couldn't get the air up sufficiently in the tire.= =C2=A0 Finally went to get another gauge...my electronic gauge quit, and my= 50 years old Bridgeport Brass gauge needs rebuilding, so I grabbed the.oth= wr Milton inflator.=C2=A0 Turns out, I had missed blowing up the bicycle ti= res only by a miracle of Chinese rubber.=C2=A0 One inflator reads 50 psi wh= ile the other one reads 90.

So, like when two inmates at the asylum both claim to be Napoleon, at l= east one of them is lying. And at least one will need repairing.

So, two questions:.=C2=A0

1.=C2=A0 Any suggestions for a g= ood reliable electronic or analog pressure gauge to verify/calibrate the in= flators?=C2=A0 (I also need one to put in my daughter's car, so glovebo= xability is a plus).

2.= =C2=A0 Anyone ever repair a Milton (or Bridgeport) tire gauge?=C2=A0 Any su= ggestions?=C2=A0 The Milton's aren't very old, especially in terms = of what we old guys expect from our expensive American made tools.

Bonus question:. How might one c= alibrate a pressure gauge against a primary source?=C2=A0 I'm thinking = of a water column or something, but 35 psi is approximately 80 feet of wate= r.=C2=A0 I'm finding that impractical for home use.

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So, like when two inmates at the asylum both claim to be Napoleon, at least= one of them is lying. And at least one will need repairing. So, two questions:.=C2=A0 1.=C2=A0 Any suggestions for a good reliable electronic or analog pressure = gauge to verify/calibrate the inflators?=C2=A0 (I also need one to put in m= y daughter's car, so gloveboxability is a plus). 2.=C2=A0 Anyone ever repair a Milton (or Bridgeport) tire gauge?=C2=A0 Any = suggestions?=C2=A0 The Milton's aren't very old, especially in terms of wha= t we old guys expect from our expensive American made tools. Bonus question:. How might one calibrate a pressure gauge against a primary= source?=C2=A0 I'm thinking of a water column or something, but 35 psi is a= pproximately 80 feet of water.=C2=A0 I'm finding that impractical for home = use._______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/arch= ive ssey@cs.com ------=_Part_4550137_1693456298.1653859649213 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I've tested several gauges against a calibrated gauge and I have found the electronic gauges, when they work, to be the most accurate. And they are cheap enough to keep a few around. Like the $10 DVM's they sell.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
To: shop-talk@autox.team.net <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, May 29, 2022 12:11 pm
Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire Pressure Gauges

A couple of tire pressure gauge questions:

I got tired of cheap Horrible Freight tire inflators, so I sprung for a brace of Milton S-506 inflators, thinking of they were good enough for the gas station of my youth, they ought to be ok now. One in the garage, one in the shop...they don't see a ton of use. Last week, I was filling bicycle tires in the garage with the hotdog compressor, and couldn't get the air up sufficiently in the tire. Finally went to get another gauge...my electronic gauge quit, and my 50 years old Bridgeport Brass gauge needs rebuilding, so I grabbed the.othwr Milton inflator. Turns out, I had missed blowing up the bicycle tires only by a miracle of Chinese rubber. One inflator reads 50 psi while the other one reads 90.

So, like when two inmates at the asylum both claim to be Napoleon, at least one of them is lying. And at least one will need repairing.

So, two questions:.

1. Any suggestions for a good reliable electronic or analog pressure gauge to verify/calibrate the inflators? (I also need one to put in my daughter's car, so gloveboxability is a plus).

2. Anyone ever repair a Milton (or Bridgeport) tire gauge? Any suggestions? The Milton's aren't very old, especially in terms of what we old guys expect from our expensive American made tools.

Bonus question:. How might one calibrate a pressure gauge against a primary source? I'm thinking of a water column or something, but 35 psi is approximately 80 feet of water. I'm finding that impractical for home use.

_______________________________________________

Shop-talk@autox.team.net
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Sun, 29 May 2022 18:55:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qt1-f170.google.com (unknown [209.85.160.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AA5A0DB1 for ; Sun, 29 May 2022 18:55:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qt1-f170.google.com with SMTP id k6so1045902qtq.3 for ; Sun, 29 May 2022 17:55:08 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=jedRAJDNcG4HUb1X/8KYzVdE97TuHIlI8PIK0aLDkug=; b=Io7bUKi73o2KKdRMkfOn5Nu0h8MFJcvKgQFYNy5HLzToGQ4UO/nmwXzkUDRh3byViI 2TroNJkwUaEbuZiYxsgbpnfyeh2cK7v7H5A3rNlLYYrwKahE9vuxMJy0CmEGpPOwwElo gDAPr2sWXO8bIMaSMlvdluWxUfTD0JciPXoG6cgzJtn31QD6Q0lE2lX9/yidWB5HBWoV h0q+qsG+BkEAyoB2+TsjwfvcbxvmdOu1QMyKCMy8rzzcuc9YYHtlBMDeuxJvqLLAt9Hi Dsf5/jnc6F12Iz6KxNZ/QH5MCvxXfHO9rB+fDeKEqW2lmJvVY8vQyBS4iNCJj5licCza tBxA== d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=jedRAJDNcG4HUb1X/8KYzVdE97TuHIlI8PIK0aLDkug=; b=TgJwZSKCEqjMS49qoR/ekGzB0nsRwUwDrADVsU3ZqjVpbab4XCUlRrOu0/+boYTqn1 wJFTfM2Ql6BlTIfaNULiAgwHauttV3RduwIRs/zxwxmU0sPIN9b4Ua1VHu2YUn+HW/hy sAmzZt4rE+TjeRLEBvdT52ZzlQwTTD3rOKDZ8Tqa9k0Q7wngDuJuDwQ9h/ILxxe3ENpN kHdLRcHrX0fl095T8Tz2vTuoUODczaHIQYO4OyPS/KD0jlAY9HatptjaKW0iPpDz4RLB zryilITaL24hazpGKxyp8iQm4UKZ2vrJAzL065j802wccgB4dNZ8VekwXWZ+jZXrFnTg SyvA== ykhg8zGsXfwftGBVLzwnLtMdDWGSDhqCR2helAc/GOqsBz0= f41-20020a05622a1a2900b002f932e4052emr31592953qtb.689.1653872108047; Sun, 29 May 2022 17:55:08 -0700 (PDT) References: <6106e6bb-412b-c741-e533-27c90e272ce3@comcast.net> From: RandE Date: Sun, 29 May 2022 19:54:55 -0500 To: ShopTalk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Pressure Gauges Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2442468758941984633== --00000000000081122205e0301b2c Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox the batteries didn't last very long, especially in the summer. Randy On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 7:13 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > I've had good luck with these: > > > https://www.amazon.com/Accutire-MS-4021B-Digital-Pressure-Gauge/dp/B00080= QHMM/ref=3Dasc_df_B00080QHMM/?tag=3Dhyprod-20&linkCode=3Ddf0&hvadid=3D31217= 7448019&hvpos=3D&hvnetw=3Dg&hvrand=3D16563417771390584939&hvpone=3D&hvptwo= =3D&hvqmt=3D&hvdev=3Dc&hvdvcmdl=3D&hvlocint=3D&hvlocphy=3D9032278&hvtargid= =3Dpla-567122411030&psc=3D1&tag=3D&ref=3D&adgrpid=3D61495038909&hvpone=3D&h= vptwo=3D&hvadid=3D312177448019&hvpos=3D&hvnetw=3Dg&hvrand=3D165634177713905= 84939&hvqmt=3D&hvdev=3Dc&hvdvcmdl=3D&hvlocint=3D&hvlocphy=3D9032278&hvtargi= d=3Dpla-567122411030 > > You don't know for sure how accurate a gauge is unless you compare it to > a lab standard, but repeatability is a good sign, and these always do. > FWIW, they agree with the TPS monitor in my Mustang. > > Bob > > > > On 5/29/2022 10:11 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > > A couple of tire pressure gauge questions: > > > > I got tired of cheap Horrible Freight tire inflators, so I sprung for > > a brace of Milton S-506 inflators, thinking of they were good enough > > for the gas station of my youth, they ought to be ok now. One in the > > garage, one in the shop...they don't see a ton of use. Last week, I > > was filling bicycle tires in the garage with the hotdog compressor, > > and couldn't get the air up sufficiently in the tire. Finally went to > > get another gauge...my electronic gauge quit, and my 50 years old > > Bridgeport Brass gauge needs rebuilding, so I grabbed the.othwr Milton > > inflator. Turns out, I had missed blowing up the bicycle tires only > > by a miracle of Chinese rubber. One inflator reads 50 psi while the > > other one reads 90. > > > > So, like when two inmates at the asylum both claim to be Napoleon, at > > least one of them is lying. And at least one will need repairing. > > > > So, two questions:. > > > > 1. Any suggestions for a good reliable electronic or analog pressure > > gauge to verify/calibrate the inflators? (I also need one to put in > > my daughter's car, so gloveboxability is a plus). > > > > 2. Anyone ever repair a Milton (or Bridgeport) tire gauge? Any > > suggestions? The Milton's aren't very old, especially in terms of > > what we old guys expect from our expensive American made tools. > > > > Bonus question:. How might one calibrate a pressure gauge against a > > primary source? I'm thinking of a water column or something, but 35 > > psi is approximately 80 feet of water. I'm finding that impractical > > for home use. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/rande@pobox.com > > --00000000000081122205e0301b2c Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in t= he glovebox the=C2=A0batteries didn't last very long,=C2=A0especially i= n the summer.=C2=A0=C2=A0

Randy

On Sun, May 29, 202= 2 at 7:13 PM Bob Spidell <bspide= ll@comcast.net> wrote:

I've had good luck with these:

https://www.amazon.com/Accutire-MS-4021B-= Digital-Pressure-Gauge/dp/B00080QHMM/ref=3Dasc_df_B00080QHMM/?tag=3Dhyprod-= 20&linkCode=3Ddf0&hvadid=3D312177448019&hvpos=3D&hvnetw=3Dg= &hvrand=3D16563417771390584939&hvpone=3D&hvptwo=3D&hvqmt=3D= &hvdev=3Dc&hvdvcmdl=3D&hvlocint=3D&hvlocphy=3D9032278&h= vtargid=3Dpla-567122411030&psc=3D1&tag=3D&ref=3D&adgrpid=3D= 61495038909&hvpone=3D&hvptwo=3D&hvadid=3D312177448019&hvpos= =3D&hvnetw=3Dg&hvrand=3D16563417771390584939&hvqmt=3D&hvdev= =3Dc&hvdvcmdl=3D&hvlocint=3D&hvlocphy=3D9032278&hvtargid=3D= pla-567122411030

You don't know for sure how accurate a gauge is unless you compare it t= o
a lab standard, but repeatability is a good sign, and these always do.
FWIW, they agree with the TPS monitor in my Mustang.

Bob

On 5/29/2022 10:11 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:
> A couple of tire pressure gauge questions:
>
> I got tired of cheap Horrible Freight tire inflators, so I sprung for =
> a brace of Milton S-506 inflators, thinking of they were good enough <= br> > for the gas station of my youth, they ought to be ok now.=C2=A0 One in= the
> garage, one in the shop...they don't see a ton of use.=C2=A0 Last = week, I
> was filling bicycle tires in the garage with the hotdog compressor, > and couldn't get the air up sufficiently in the tire.=C2=A0 Finall= y went to
> get another gauge...my electronic gauge quit, and my 50 years old
> Bridgeport Brass gauge needs rebuilding, so I grabbed the.othwr Milton=
> inflator.=C2=A0 Turns out, I had missed blowing up the bicycle tires o= nly
> by a miracle of Chinese rubber.=C2=A0 One inflator reads 50 psi while = the
> other one reads 90.
>
> So, like when two inmates at the asylum both claim to be Napoleon, at =
> least one of them is lying. And at least one will need repairing.
>
> So, two questions:.
>
> 1.=C2=A0 Any suggestions for a good reliable electronic or analog pres= sure
> gauge to verify/calibrate the inflators?=C2=A0 (I also need one to put= in
> my daughter's car, so gloveboxability is a plus).
>
> 2.=C2=A0 Anyone ever repair a Milton (or Bridgeport) tire gauge?=C2=A0= Any
> suggestions?=C2=A0 The Milton's aren't very old, especially in= terms of
> what we old guys expect from our expensive American made tools.
>
> Bonus question:. How might one calibrate a pressure gauge against a > primary source?=C2=A0 I'm thinking of a water column or something,= but 35
> psi is approximately 80 feet of water.=C2=A0 I'm finding that impr= actical
> for home use.
>

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--00000000000081122205e0301b2c-- --===============2442468758941984633== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive --===============2442468758941984633==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 29 19:54:15 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A74EA0DDE for ; Sun, 29 May 2022 19:54:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-c1p-023465.sys.comcast.net (unknown [96.102.19.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DF8A0DCF for ; Sun, 29 May 2022 19:54:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-c1p-022592.sys.comcast.net ([96.102.18.237]) by resqmta-c1p-023465.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id vUOgnnUh3LLKyvUbenpy9t; Mon, 30 May 2022 01:54:06 +0000 s=20190202a; t=1653875646; bh=cjFuQIAxAR+avZntP7kGX6NkOn9GIIEb5TfGm92XRxw=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version: Subject:To:From; b=Fg3jv/QFBSk6Pat1I8MGPtrVLfTj8tR2IEl6QCoY6W/frhkymh6lKNRZCaNAGWdBo YPdz+vvJbuWn2iFK+9sGgNoks/p+8j62U/D3I7DTcYMJBl4IPhcv0PWXpvJf8vgAmf VakfRiT/jYxfhxFdOO7Urgb273cF6YteBEhr7rQ4CaNwzNdk/doMW2TGSkqmwJIPVs KFp45SDl3KlxoIKuXNcUmKCE8QkRfz6vEeXuwCKfbvkEt/nw4V5d5FP4OyDHBB3oxS 8+EvBmBadu6ZJ0DXKmxZQK9K3nm0hPzS+iKJ9HTI+cnx8gjd1kPMPLt5zf2BIq5XqZ SrH7ycofjltlA== Received: from [IPV6:2601:601:1501:a870::e458] ([IPv6:2601:601:1501:a870::e458]) by resomta-c1p-022592.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPSA id vUbIncusC3cjhvUbJn5wRP; Mon, 30 May 2022 01:53:46 +0000 Date: Sun, 29 May 2022 18:53:39 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.9.1 Content-Language: en-US To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: <6106e6bb-412b-c741-e533-27c90e272ce3@comcast.net> From: Mike Sinclair Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Pressure Gauges Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6777980621465188914== boundary="------------jEGyKvRzZS2l0WYu182GpoRz" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------jEGyKvRzZS2l0WYu182GpoRz Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit So have I. Mike On 5/29/2022 5:12 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > I've had good luck with these: > > https://www.amazon.com/Accutire-MS-4021B-Digital-Pressure-Gauge/dp/B00080QHMM/ref=asc_df_B00080QHMM/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312177448019&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16563417771390584939&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032278&hvtargid=pla-567122411030&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=61495038909&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312177448019&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16563417771390584939&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032278&hvtargid=pla-567122411030 > > > You don't know for sure how accurate a gauge is unless you compare it > to a lab standard, but repeatability is a good sign, and these always > do. FWIW, they agree with the TPS monitor in my Mustang. > > Bob > > > > On 5/29/2022 10:11 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: >> A couple of tire pressure gauge questions: >> >> I got tired of cheap Horrible Freight tire inflators, so I sprung for >> a brace of Milton S-506 inflators, thinking of they were good enough >> for the gas station of my youth, they ought to be ok now. One in the >> garage, one in the shop...they don't see a ton of use. Last week, I >> was filling bicycle tires in the garage with the hotdog compressor, >> and couldn't get the air up sufficiently in the tire. Finally went >> to get another gauge...my electronic gauge quit, and my 50 years old >> Bridgeport Brass gauge needs rebuilding, so I grabbed the.othwr >> Milton inflator. Turns out, I had missed blowing up the bicycle >> tires only by a miracle of Chinese rubber. One inflator reads 50 psi >> while the other one reads 90. >> >> So, like when two inmates at the asylum both claim to be Napoleon, at >> least one of them is lying. And at least one will need repairing. >> >> So, two questions:. >> >> 1. Any suggestions for a good reliable electronic or analog pressure >> gauge to verify/calibrate the inflators? (I also need one to put in >> my daughter's car, so gloveboxability is a plus). >> >> 2. Anyone ever repair a Milton (or Bridgeport) tire gauge? Any >> suggestions? The Milton's aren't very old, especially in terms of >> what we old guys expect from our expensive American made tools. >> >> Bonus question:. How might one calibrate a pressure gauge against a >> primary source? I'm thinking of a water column or something, but 35 >> psi is approximately 80 feet of water. I'm finding that impractical >> for home use. >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/phoenix722@comcast.net > --------------jEGyKvRzZS2l0WYu182GpoRz Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So have I.

Mike

On 5/29/2022 5:12 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:

I've had good luck with these:

https://www.amazon.com/Accuti= re-MS-4021B-Digital-Pressure-Gauge/dp/B00080QHMM/ref=3Dasc_df_B00080QHMM/= ?tag=3Dhyprod-20&linkCode=3Ddf0&hvadid=3D312177448019&hvpos=3D= &hvnetw=3Dg&hvrand=3D16563417771390584939&hvpone=3D&hvptw= o=3D&hvqmt=3D&hvdev=3Dc&hvdvcmdl=3D&hvlocint=3D&hvloc= phy=3D9032278&hvtargid=3Dpla-567122411030&psc=3D1&tag=3D&= ref=3D&adgrpid=3D61495038909&hvpone=3D&hvptwo=3D&hvadid=3D= 312177448019&hvpos=3D&hvnetw=3Dg&hvrand=3D1656341777139058493= 9&hvqmt=3D&hvdev=3Dc&hvdvcmdl=3D&hvlocint=3D&hvlocphy= =3D9032278&hvtargid=3Dpla-567122411030

You don't know for sure how accurate a gauge is unless you compare it to a lab standard, but repeatability is a good sign, and these always do. FWIW, they agree with the TPS monitor in my Mustang.

Bob

On 5/29/2022 10:11 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:

A couple of tire pressure gauge questions= :

I got tired of cheap Horrible Freight tire inflators, so I sprung for a brace of Milton S-506 inflators, thinking of they were good enough for the gas station of my youth, they ought to be ok now.=C2=A0 One in the garage, one in the shop...they don't = see a ton of use.=C2=A0 Last week, I was filling bicycle tires in the= garage with the hotdog compressor, and couldn't get the air up sufficiently in the tire.=C2=A0 Finally went to get another gauge...my electronic gauge quit, and my 50 years old Bridgeport Brass gauge needs rebuilding, so I grabbed the.othwr Milton inflator.=C2=A0 Turns out, I had missed blowing up the bicycle ti= res only by a miracle of Chinese rubber.=C2=A0 One inflator reads 50 = psi while the other one reads 90.

So, like when two inmates at the asylum both claim to be Napoleon, at least one of them is lying. And at least one will need repairing.

So, two questions:.

1.=C2=A0 Any suggestions for a good reliable electronic or analog= pressure gauge to verify/calibrate the inflators?=C2=A0 (I also n= eed one to put in my daughter's car, so gloveboxability is a plus).

2.=C2=A0 Anyone ever repair a Milton (or Bridgeport) tire gauge?=C2= =A0 Any suggestions?=C2=A0 The Milton's aren't very old, especially in te= rms of what we old guys expect from our expensive American made tools.

Bonus question:. How might one calibrate a pressure gauge against a primary source?=C2=A0 I'm thinking of a water column or= something, but 35 psi is approximately 80 feet of water.=C2=A0 I'= m finding that impractical for home use.

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>I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox the batteries
>didn't last very long, especially in the summer.

I have to agree. I have a little nicer electronic one than the one Bob suggested.
I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and leak and
made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them and make the usable again is
a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take the batteries out of the gauge
when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie. That way, when the leak, they
don't mess up the gauge.

John

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been using this one for 5-7 years..accurate an= d easy to use

it had clip on the end to hold it in place on = stem and it's easy to read

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[Shop-talk] Tire Pressure Gauges Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1799959162911242546== boundary="Apple-Mail=_F2C35289-3105-4572-9E7F-1BA7CEBF7620" --Apple-Mail=_F2C35289-3105-4572-9E7F-1BA7CEBF7620 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Hi Guys, I=E2=80=99ve been using a Jaco tire gauge for years. It is = accurate, doesn=E2=80=99t use batteries, and is warranted for life. The = best part is that it glows in the dark (really) and is very easy to = read. For most of my life I used pencil type inflation gauges, which, = while accurate, were really difficult to read.=20 = https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010A6B6KG/ref=3Dredir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=3D= UTF8&aaxitk=3D3fb0d5ac19778cf96082216834cd8c21&content-id=3Damzn1.sym.488a= 18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3%3Aamzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea= 4b560f3&hsa_cr_id=3D9387928130101&pd_rd_plhdr=3Dt&pd_rd_r=3D33e3d461-fb6d-= 4c4e-a750-20dec79ddb4f&pd_rd_w=3D4N9UY&pd_rd_wg=3DLAyD2&ref_=3Dsbx_be_s_sp= arkle_mcd_asin_0_img = Best,=20 Bob =E2=80=9972 TR6 > On May 30, 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair = wrote: >=20 > At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote: >=20 > >I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox the = batteries=20 > >didn't last very long, especially in the summer. >=20 > I have to agree. I have a little nicer electronic one than the one = Bob suggested. =20 > I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and = leak and=20 > made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them and make the usable = again is > a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take the batteries out of = the gauge=20 > when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie. That way, when = the leak, they=20 > don't mess up the gauge. >=20 > John >=20 >=20 >=20 > =09 > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. = =20 > www.avast.com > >=20 >=20 > John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net > Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229 >=20 > 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) > 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III > 65 Rambler Classic >=20 > Morgan: http://autox.team.net/morgan/ = > Bricklin: http://www.bricklin.org > If you can read this - Thank a teacher! > If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!! >=20 > =46rom Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy: > e pluribus Unum, "from many, one." > In God We Trust > Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for=20= > oneself; freedom from control or restriction=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk = http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/rrochlin@comcast.net >=20 --Apple-Mail=_F2C35289-3105-4572-9E7F-1BA7CEBF7620 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Hi = Guys,

I=E2=80=99ve been using a Jaco = tire gauge for years. It is accurate, doesn=E2=80=99t use = batteries, and is warranted for life. The best part is that it glows in = the dark (really) and is very easy to read. For most of my life I = used pencil type inflation gauges, which, while accurate, were really = difficult to read.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010A6B6KG/ref=3Dredir_mobile_desktop= ?_encoding=3DUTF8&aaxitk=3D3fb0d5ac19778cf96082216834cd8c21&conten= t-id=3Damzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3%3Aamzn1.sym.488a18be= -6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3&hsa_cr_id=3D9387928130101&pd_rd_plhdr= =3Dt&pd_rd_r=3D33e3d461-fb6d-4c4e-a750-20dec79ddb4f&pd_rd_w=3D4N9U= Y&pd_rd_wg=3DLAyD2&ref_=3Dsbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_img

= Best,

Bob

=E2=80=9972= TR6

On May 30, 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair = <jblair1948@cox.net> wrote:

At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote:

>I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox = the batteries
>didn't last very long, especially in the summer.

I have to agree. I have a little nicer electronic one than the one Bob suggested.
I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and = leak and
made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them and make the = usable again is
a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take the batteries out of the gauge
when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie. That way, when the leak, they
don't mess up the gauge.

John

This email has been checked for viruses = by Avast antivirus software.
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John T. Blair WA4OHZ     = email: jblair1948@cox.net

Va. Beach, = Va            =       Phone: (757) 495-8229

          = 48 TR1800    48 #4 Midget    65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106)

     75 Bricklin SV1 = (#0887)    77 Spitfire    71 Saab Sonett III

=             &n= bsp;          65 Rambler Classic

Morgan:    http://autox.team.net/morgan/

Bricklin:     http://www.bricklin.org

If you can read = this           &nbs= p; - Thank a teacher!

If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!!

=46rom Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy:

     e pluribus Unum, "from many, one."

     In God We Trust

     Liberty - the power = of choosing, thinking, and acting for

=             &n= bsp;     oneself; freedom from control or restriction

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= --Apple-Mail=_F2C35289-3105-4572-9E7F-1BA7CEBF7620-- --===============1799959162911242546== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive --===============1799959162911242546==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 30 06:45:29 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB7FA0C52 for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 06:45:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-h1p-028587.sys.comcast.net (unknown [96.102.200.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD6EA09C5 for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 06:45:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-h1p-027909.sys.comcast.net ([96.102.179.198]) by resqmta-h1p-028587.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id ve3TnecFXSinOvelrntnuI; Mon, 30 May 2022 12:45:19 +0000 s=20190202a; t=1653914719; bh=FinnIiJVl5WdZD+tMHVAEPNt6SSajKJz/3pFBoUaToQ=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version: Subject:To:From; b=V0j8P/ki/0Oy5F5hULGMcSaC8sKAFJf4B8dQJtcWtSQBJzISwaDkSr/GzRctPrDb5 UXUOqMARxA9C5uUqABFVHcfGp/GLt13WWn65itpxBEocg+htVNjoifRrXPpzT3P96v TzWP6bKepG/v0hL6ClRwPwesBzLIz+TUtXSrb/tz9uxUESo/Rd5yO96WT9vdaxKDVK ZC/9k9e+RgSd7lfZ82fkJZqxdBMtiWzhZ7JpsVkx6GbjGYVrQZx5cOFukP++nYOaRJ 3Jw/cYXnvrkKe2ihWM3zo5+DO3xCPcTiSE8oFumZk4gpt3160Gy4jzVFtLW9M4DcEX fitiSeTI53JlQ== Received: from [192.168.1.120] ([104.153.206.37]) by resomta-h1p-027909.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id velNnxdWB81C5velPnIwNF; Mon, 30 May 2022 12:44:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 05:45:09 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.9.1 Content-Language: en-US To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: <6106e6bb-412b-c741-e533-27c90e272ce3@comcast.net> <6.2.5.6.1.20220530000506.04c518b0@cox.net> From: Bob Spidell Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Pressure Gauges Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4464818940345940092== boundary="------------wNqGQPOrDBKH5mldTUTDR26J" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------wNqGQPOrDBKH5mldTUTDR26J Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit re: "It is accurate" How do you know? I've actually looked for a measurements lab to calibrate gauges; they're few and far between. On 5/30/2022 4:40 AM, Robert Rochlin wrote: > Hi Guys, > I’ve been using a Jaco tire gauge for years. It is accurate, doesn’t > use batteries, and is warranted for life. The best part is that it > glows in the dark (really) and is very easy to read. For most of my > life I used pencil type inflation gauges, which, while accurate, were > really difficult to read. > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010A6B6KG/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=3fb0d5ac19778cf96082216834cd8c21&content-id=amzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3%3Aamzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3&hsa_cr_id=9387928130101&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=33e3d461-fb6d-4c4e-a750-20dec79ddb4f&pd_rd_w=4N9UY&pd_rd_wg=LAyD2&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_img > > > Best, > Bob > ’72 TR6 > >> On May 30, 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair wrote: >> >> At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote: >> >> >I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox >> the batteries >> >didn't last very long, especially in the summer. >> >> I have to agree. I have a little nicer electronic one than the one >> Bob suggested. >> I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and >> leak and >> made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them and make the usable >> again is >> a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take the batteries out >> of the gauge >> when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie. That way, when >> the leak, they >> don't mess up the gauge. >> >> John >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> --------------wNqGQPOrDBKH5mldTUTDR26J Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit re: "It is accurate"

How do you know? I've actually looked for a measurements lab to calibrate gauges; they're few and far between.

On 5/30/2022 4:40 AM, Robert Rochlin wrote:

Hi Guys,
I’ve been using a Jaco tire gauge for years. It is accurate, doesn’t use batteries, and is warranted for life. The best part is that it glows in the dark (really) and is very easy to read. For most of my life I used pencil type inflation gauges, which, while accurate, were really difficult to read.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010A6B6KG/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=3fb0d5ac19778cf96082216834cd8c21&content-id=amzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3%3Aamzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3&hsa_cr_id=9387928130101&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=33e3d461-fb6d-4c4e-a750-20dec79ddb4f&pd_rd_w=4N9UY&pd_rd_wg=LAyD2&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_img

Best,

Bob

’72 TR6

On May 30, 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net> wrote:

At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote:

>I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox the batteries
>didn't last very long, especially in the summer.

I have to agree. I have a little nicer electronic one than the one Bob suggested.
I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and leak and
made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them and make the usable again is
a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take the batteries out of the gauge
when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie. That way, when the leak, they
don't mess up the gauge.

John

--------------wNqGQPOrDBKH5mldTUTDR26J-- --===============4464818940345940092== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive --===============4464818940345940092==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 30 06:58:44 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5733A0F32 for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 06:58:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from ms11p00im-qufo17281401.me.com (unknown [17.58.38.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D99BA0F31 for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 06:58:37 -0600 (MDT) s=1a1hai; t=1653915516; bh=R9SnYXFrWIPZQ4bP66TszPhseoSs+nHwsQ21MTmwLug=; h=Content-Type:From:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To; b=PaU9wRg9rguGAiWRKkcYIQQ6wA+GAnsFWmhKpeuQxo2m8PJCh/GaH2AUwAC5UfKjl BgsiT8U3aclBCIkZ/iMudD9CcPYNkwWtY4bF8d3gVzTSIVkJ9964hqBGecxAc3bwAo 6iz4uDUEneHraVSaplpvB9qQ5iodCqzQFym5Bavd18BwX03FxfLyu+/i6UkqW6+Kw7 Fr5wrS0YYgp9CDU6VKrLrvcQ2+csD4TJAPB7s3Q5+xijmxTJR13OEPgj5+ByMs1jl4 Rb7E1WxmBoc596PMPGoeP6LRa1yStJrzN2szzvD3JRJ593M0Rjp5RDBu7q3OnWazNp gTmwsJa/i38Nw== Received: from smtpclient.apple (ms11p00im-dlb-asmtpmailmevip.me.com [17.57.154.19]) by ms11p00im-qufo17281401.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 600DBBA02F0; Mon, 30 May 2022 12:58:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Pat Horne Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 07:58:34 -0500 References: <1c228c25-3db0-e8f4-11ec-cf6b2b39c884@comcast.net> To: Bob Spidell =?UTF-8?Q?2903e8d5c8f:6.0.425,18.0.816,17.0.605.474.0000000_definitions?= =?UTF-8?Q?=3D2022-01-18=5F01:2022-01-14=5F01,2022-01-18=5F01,2020-01-23?= =?UTF-8?Q?=5F02_signatures=3D0?= phishscore=0 clxscore=1011 suspectscore=0 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2202240000 definitions=main-2205300068 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Pressure Gauges Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0782657150188347725== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-B1D5EEA0-2AE9-4B72-8017-269145341489 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It=E2=80=99s been 50 years, but I worked at the University of Texas, Departm= ent of Chemical Engineering. They had a gauge calibrator. If you have a univ= ersity nears you might give them a try.=20 Peace, Pat Pat Horne=20 We support Habitat for Humanity On May 30, 2022, at 7:45 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: =EF=BB=BF re: "It is accurate" How do you know? I've actually looked for a measurements lab to calibrate ga= uges; they're few and far between. On 5/30/2022 4:40 AM, Robert Rochlin wrote: > Hi Guys, > I=E2=80=99ve been using a Jaco tire gauge for years. It is accurat= e, doesn=E2=80=99t use batteries, and is warranted for life. The best part i= s that it glows in the dark (really) and is very easy to read. For most of m= y life I used pencil type inflation gauges, which, while accurate, were real= ly difficult to read.=20 > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010A6B6KG/ref=3Dredir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=3D= UTF8&aaxitk=3D3fb0d5ac19778cf96082216834cd8c21&content-id=3Damzn1.sym.488a18= be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3%3Aamzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b56= 0f3&hsa_cr_id=3D9387928130101&pd_rd_plhdr=3Dt&pd_rd_r=3D33e3d461-fb6d-4c4e-a= 750-20dec79ddb4f&pd_rd_w=3D4N9UY&pd_rd_wg=3DLAyD2&ref_=3Dsbx_be_s_sparkle_mc= d_asin_0_img >=20 > Best,=20 > Bob > =E2=80=9972 TR6 >=20 >> On May 30, 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair wrote: >>=20 >> At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote: >>=20 >> >I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox the ba= tteries=20 >> >didn't last very long, especially in the summer. >>=20 >> I have to agree. I have a little nicer electronic one than the one Bob s= uggested. =20 >> I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and leak= and=20 >> made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them and make the usable agai= n is >> a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take the batteries out of th= e gauge=20 >> when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie. That way, when the l= eak, they=20 >> don't mess up the gauge. >>=20 >> John >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archi= ve as@icloud.com --Apple-Mail-B1D5EEA0-2AE9-4B72-8017-269145341489 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It=E2=80=99s been 50 years, but I worked at= the University of Texas, Department of Chemical Engineering. They had a gau= ge calibrator. If you have a university nears you might give them a try.&nbs= p;

Peace,

Pat

Pat Horne=

We support Habitat for Humanity

On May 30, 2022, at 7:45 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.= net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF =20 =20 =20 re: "It is accurate"

How do you know? I've actually looked for a measurements lab to calibrate gauges; they're few and far between.

On 5/30/2022 4:40 AM, Robert Rochlin wrote:

Hi Guys,
I=E2=80=99ve been using a Jaco tire gauge for years. It is accurate, doesn=E2= =80=99t use batteries, and is warranted for life. The best part is that it glows in the dark (really) and is very easy to read. For most of my life I used pencil type inflation gauges, which, while accurate, were really difficult to read.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010A6B6KG/re= f=3Dredir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=3DUTF8&aaxitk=3D3fb0d5ac19778cf960822= 16834cd8c21&content-id=3Damzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3%= 3Aamzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3&hsa_cr_id=3D93879281301= 01&pd_rd_plhdr=3Dt&pd_rd_r=3D33e3d461-fb6d-4c4e-a750-20dec79ddb4f&am= p;pd_rd_w=3D4N9UY&pd_rd_wg=3DLAyD2&ref_=3Dsbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_= 0_img

Best,

Bob

=E2=80=9972 TR6

On May 30, 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net> wrote:

At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote:

>I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox the batteries
>didn't last very long, especially in the summer.

I have to agree. I have a little nicer electronic on= e than the one Bob suggested.
I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and leak and
made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them and make the usable again is
a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take the= batteries out of the gauge
when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie. That way, when the leak, they
don't mess up the gauge.

John

=

=20 _______________________________________________

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= --Apple-Mail-B1D5EEA0-2AE9-4B72-8017-269145341489-- --===============0782657150188347725== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive --===============0782657150188347725==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 30 08:25:54 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C55A0EA1 for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 08:25:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from resdmta-a1p-077303.sys.comcast.net (unknown [96.103.146.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABFDA0C5E for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 08:25:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-a1p-077251.sys.comcast.net ([96.103.145.233]) by resdmta-a1p-077303.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id vef6nAwlwuCfIvgL2ncu9F; Mon, 30 May 2022 14:25:44 +0000 s=20190202a; t=1653920744; bh=tdy/cBRVQpM34Vb4Nn+r1aOwlAQ7bDo7/6QuNNGP2hY=; h=Received:Received:From:Message-Id:Content-Type:Mime-Version: Subject:Date:To; b=Kw9oFvg/JjEKfUyATSse1IUebSWzKtzCLZhrYhSqtXb47bEFqBE6kj23TeswJ6WuC neGbBSSVkmTJ5r8MdcKIis6OJi4rM+ZDE1tvNA7ZqsfpFwQN7/Ps0sf3z3Lmrna5LP T1VLpM0liXaVWfkO5qm6IUWE7mAMVgz7lIQnXK+WOI+I/M20dXxHGOpEbGXuPHqTz3 66Aj4MtdT6vlali7M07bc2kUlrS8WKyHa/NcWMSeDyLAKMObEVFmSm5xLfR/cJqYlV UnniualsaTDBKOrj02+VvDL9BLsZPZPPYqyA/qJPF9zRe+fqbGNgIS8puIbXXYsnUt ZzZ8bsQSBXeSg== Received: from smtpclient.apple ([73.17.214.72]) by resomta-a1p-077251.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPSA id vgKQn0oiromf2vgKRn3Gv4; Mon, 30 May 2022 14:25:08 +0000 From: Rochlin Robert Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 10:25:06 -0400 To: Bob Spidell References: <6106e6bb-412b-c741-e533-27c90e272ce3@comcast.net> <6.2.5.6.1.20220530000506.04c518b0@cox.net> <1c228c25-3db0-e8f4-11ec-cf6b2b39c884@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Pressure Gauges Cc: shop-talk@autox.team.net Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1355740458879926431== boundary="Apple-Mail=_555C6B1E-FA71-445E-BA7E-7DC0121C1872" --Apple-Mail=_555C6B1E-FA71-445E-BA7E-7DC0121C1872 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 My cheap calibration protocol is to take a reading with three = different gauges If the results are within a pound (+_) I figure it's = close enough for a car tire. =20 As an aside, my Nissan truck has a simple TPS waring light on = the dash, but if I plug in my code scanner it gives me the tire pressure = in as read from each of the tire sensors. Best, Bob. > On May 30, 2022, at 8:45 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: >=20 > re: "It is accurate" >=20 > How do you know? I've actually looked for a measurements lab to = calibrate gauges; they're few and far between. >=20 >=20 > On 5/30/2022 4:40 AM, Robert Rochlin wrote: >> Hi Guys, >> I=E2=80=99ve been using a Jaco tire gauge for years. It is = accurate, doesn=E2=80=99t use batteries, and is warranted for life. The = best part is that it glows in the dark (really) and is very easy to = read. For most of my life I used pencil type inflation gauges, which, = while accurate, were really difficult to read.=20 >> = https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010A6B6KG/ref=3Dredir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=3D= UTF8&aaxitk=3D3fb0d5ac19778cf96082216834cd8c21&content-id=3Damzn1.sym.488a= 18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3%3Aamzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea= 4b560f3&hsa_cr_id=3D9387928130101&pd_rd_plhdr=3Dt&pd_rd_r=3D33e3d461-fb6d-= 4c4e-a750-20dec79ddb4f&pd_rd_w=3D4N9UY&pd_rd_wg=3DLAyD2&ref_=3Dsbx_be_s_sp= arkle_mcd_asin_0_img = >>=20 >> Best,=20 >> Bob >> =E2=80=9972 TR6 >>=20 >>> On May 30, 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair >>=20 >>> At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote: >>>=20 >>> >I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox = the batteries=20 >>> >didn't last very long, especially in the summer. >>>=20 >>> I have to agree. I have a little nicer electronic one than the one = Bob suggested. =20 >>> I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and = leak and=20 >>> made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them and make the usable = again is >>> a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take the batteries out = of the gauge=20 >>> when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie. That way, when = the leak, they=20 >>> don't mess up the gauge. >>>=20 >>> John >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk = http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/rrochlin@comcast.net >=20 --Apple-Mail=_555C6B1E-FA71-445E-BA7E-7DC0121C1872 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 My = cheap calibration protocol is to take a reading with three different = gauges If the results are within a pound (+_) I figure it's close enough = for a car tire.

As an aside, my Nissan truck has = a simple TPS waring light on the dash, but if I plug in my code scanner = it gives me the tire pressure in as read from each of the tire = sensors.

Best,

Bob.

On May 30, 2022, at 8:45 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

=20 =20
re: "It is accurate"

How do you know? I've actually looked for a measurements lab to calibrate gauges; they're few and far between.

On 5/30/2022 4:40 AM, Robert Rochlin wrote:

Hi Guys,
I=E2=80=99ve been using a Jaco tire gauge for years. It is accurate, = doesn=E2=80=99t use batteries, and is warranted for life. The best part is that it glows in the dark (really) and is very easy to read. = For most of my life I used pencil type inflation gauges, which, while accurate, were really difficult to read.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010A6B6KG/ref=3Dredir_= mobile_desktop?_encoding=3DUTF8&aaxitk=3D3fb0d5ac19778cf96082216834cd8= c21&content-id=3Damzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3%3Aamzn= 1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3&hsa_cr_id=3D9387928130101&a= mp;pd_rd_plhdr=3Dt&pd_rd_r=3D33e3d461-fb6d-4c4e-a750-20dec79ddb4f&= pd_rd_w=3D4N9UY&pd_rd_wg=3DLAyD2&ref_=3Dsbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_= 0_img

Best,

Bob

=E2=80=9972 TR6

On May 30, 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net> wrote:

At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote:

>I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox the batteries
>didn't last very long, especially in the = summer.

I have to agree. I have a little nicer = electronic one than the one Bob suggested.
I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and leak and
made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them = and make the usable again is
a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take = the batteries out of the gauge
when not in use and store them in a plastic = baggie. That way, when the leak, they
don't mess up the gauge.

John

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= --Apple-Mail=_555C6B1E-FA71-445E-BA7E-7DC0121C1872-- --===============1355740458879926431== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive --===============1355740458879926431==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 30 09:11:21 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4035A0FA2 for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 09:11:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from ms11p00im-qufo17291601.me.com (unknown [17.58.38.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D741A0D63 for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 09:11:13 -0600 (MDT) s=1a1hai; t=1653923473; bh=hmuV4IOFOwHCUJ/y2eGjYYOzW7RhFfjftmfDHXwOLrw=; h=Content-Type:From:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To; b=cZUrruhAklZdy8PvKjfed1TPQujZA19S+ZtpUgBg6v5BaG+YPskmF+drZZc1lGpV9 B5DQLYlsDdD4wGdaTgSbOkkX2mrCY2eTkPCJWC5TKoSPP7lY+oBx/eFXW+fj/A+2qd 4+lNTdbUWvfWkqEEkevf8ugPaKaEafjUG458m17WJOu5cTRImvkstlOR+4Ljqz6Z6/ iQTtFBKQLi5WqLoxUhV61O6mwERPHA9hzBoRNhqUFwHv9EyEer/QPez20yJoc0YCt+ SxQSL0Qx990IXArvhNkbM9fDyMz2o7NGad64gmeJBl00Pj5X19Sp9Y0rR6WfFMObVk 1YJaPn4FUjjMQ== Received: from smtpclient.apple (ms11p00im-dlb-asmtpmailmevip.me.com [17.57.154.19]) by ms11p00im-qufo17291601.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DCAA73A0328; Mon, 30 May 2022 15:11:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Pat Horne Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 10:11:10 -0500 References: To: Robert Rochlin =?UTF-8?Q?2903e8d5c8f:6.0.138,18.0.816,17.11.62.513.0000000_definitions?= =?UTF-8?Q?=3D2022-01-18=5F01:2020-02-14=5F02,2022-01-18=5F01,2021-12-02?= =?UTF-8?Q?=5F01_signatures=3D0?= clxscore=1015 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2202240000 definitions=main-2205300080 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Pressure Gauges Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5822527716249125856== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-88FC8576-2D00-4AC9-A511-6283B4A3A917 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have no research to base my assumption on but I think that a Bourdon tube g= auge will be the longest lasting gauge as long as it is used within limits &= should maintain its accuracy for as long as it is used.=20 Electronic gauges & pencil gauges can change calibration over time but a tub= e slightly straightening should not change calibration in the comparatively f= ew times we check our tires. I=E2=80=99ve seen Bourdon gauges that are insta= lled on water pumps where the readings shake violently that are still accura= te after decades of 24/7 operation.=20 Peace, Pat Pat Horne=20 We support Habitat for Humanity On May 30, 2022, at 6:41 AM, Robert Rochlin wrote: =EF=BB=BFHi Guys, I=E2=80=99ve been using a Jaco tire gauge for years. It is accurat= e, doesn=E2=80=99t use batteries, and is warranted for life. The best part i= s that it glows in the dark (really) and is very easy to read. For most of m= y life I used pencil type inflation gauges, which, while accurate, were real= ly difficult to read.=20 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010A6B6KG/ref=3Dredir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=3D= UTF8&aaxitk=3D3fb0d5ac19778cf96082216834cd8c21&content-id=3Damzn1.sym.488a18= be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3%3Aamzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b56= 0f3&hsa_cr_id=3D9387928130101&pd_rd_plhdr=3Dt&pd_rd_r=3D33e3d461-fb6d-4c4e-a= 750-20dec79ddb4f&pd_rd_w=3D4N9UY&pd_rd_wg=3DLAyD2&ref_=3Dsbx_be_s_sparkle_mc= d_asin_0_img Best,=20 Bob =E2=80=9972 TR6 > On May 30, 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair wrote: >=20 > At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote: >=20 > >I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox the bat= teries=20 > >didn't last very long, especially in the summer. >=20 > I have to agree. I have a little nicer electronic one than the one Bob su= ggested. =20 > I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and leak a= nd=20 > made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them and make the usable again= is > a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take the batteries out of the= gauge=20 > when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie. That way, when the le= ak, they=20 > don't mess up the gauge. >=20 > John >=20 >=20 >=20 > =09 > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.=20 > www.avast.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net > Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229 >=20 > 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) > 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III > 65 Rambler Classic >=20 > Morgan: http://autox.team.net/morgan/ > Bricklin: http://www.bricklin.org >=20 > If you can read this - Thank a teacher! > If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!! >=20 > =46rom Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy: > e pluribus Unum, "from many, one." > In God We Trust > Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for=20 > oneself; freedom from control or restriction=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/arc= hive >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/rrochl= in@comcast.net >=20 _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archi= ve as@icloud.com --Apple-Mail-88FC8576-2D00-4AC9-A511-6283B4A3A917 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have no research to base my assumption on= but I think that a Bourdon tube gauge will be the longest lasting gauge as l= ong as it is used within limits & should maintain its accuracy for as lo= ng as it is used.

Electronic gauges & pencil gauges can cha= nge calibration over time but a tube slightly straightening should not chang= e calibration in the comparatively few times we check our tires. I=E2=80=99v= e seen Bourdon gauges that are installed on water pumps where the readings s= hake violently that are still accurate after decades of 24/7 operation. = ;

Peace,

Pat

Pat= Horne

We support Habitat for Humanity

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On May 30, 2022, at 6:41 AM, Robert Rochlin <rrochlin= @comcast.net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFHi Guys,

I=E2=80=99ve been using a Jaco tire gauge for years. It is accurat= e, doesn=E2=80=99t use batteries, and is warranted for life. The best part i= s that it glows in the dark (really) and is very easy to read. For mos= t of my life I used pencil type inflation gauges, which, while accurate, wer= e really difficult to read.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010A6= B6KG/ref=3Dredir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=3DUTF8&aaxitk=3D3fb0d5ac19778c= f96082216834cd8c21&content-id=3Damzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4= b560f3%3Aamzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3&hsa_cr_id=3D9387= 928130101&pd_rd_plhdr=3Dt&pd_rd_r=3D33e3d461-fb6d-4c4e-a750-20dec79d= db4f&pd_rd_w=3D4N9UY&pd_rd_wg=3DLAyD2&ref_=3Dsbx_be_s_sparkle_mc= d_asin_0_img

<= span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"> Best= ,

Bob

=E2=80=9972 TR6

On= May 30, 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net> wrote:

At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote:

>I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox the batteries
>didn't last very long, especially in the summer.

I have to agree. I have a little nicer electronic one than the one Bob suggested.
I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and leak and
made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them and make the usable again is
a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take the batteries out of the gauge
when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie. That way, when the leak, they
don't mess up the gauge.

John

This email has been checked for viruses by A= vast antivirus software.
www.avast.com

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= --Apple-Mail-88FC8576-2D00-4AC9-A511-6283B4A3A917-- --===============5822527716249125856== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive --===============5822527716249125856==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 30 10:27:57 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82377A0EFD for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 10:27:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from Deep13.mail.Megageek.com (unknown [34.199.103.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE2EA0E57 for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 10:27:47 -0600 (MDT) References: <1c228c25-3db0-e8f4-11ec-cf6b2b39c884@comcast.net> <0E9908F3-6246-4F55-82C6-4C1F86EC0854@icloud.com> To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net type=4; name=$KeepSent From: eric@megageek.com Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 12:27:46 -0400 05/30/2022 12:27:47 PM, Serialize complete at 05/30/2022 12:27:47 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Pressure Gauges Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============7190223706004333649== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005A6F3385258852_= There is a very easy way that I calibrated all my TPG. Go to a trusted mechanic that you are friendly with. Ask him if he has a calibrated gauge. (He most likely does.) Then, check all your tires. Then, check your tires with your gauges. Compare the readings. I found that my 'accu-read' is spot on. My cheap HF ones are within a PSI. I make a note like "reads +1PSI" on the gauge and I'm good to go. I do this about once every 3 or 4 years. I have noticed no read drift of the gauges. Then, give your buddy a 6-pack/gift card/ whatever token you have of appreciation. Moose --=_alternative 005A6F3385258852_= There is a very easy way that I calibrated all my TPG.

Go to a trusted mechanic that you are friendly with. Ask him if he has a calibrated gauge. (He most likely does.)

Then, check all your tires. Then, check your tires with your gauges. Compare the readings.

I found that my 'accu-read' is spot on. My cheap HF ones are within a PSI. I make a note like "reads +1PSI" on the gauge and I'm good to go.

I do this about once every 3 or 4 years. I have noticed no read drift of the gauges.

Then, give your buddy a 6-pack/gift card/ whatever token you have of appreciation.

Moose --=_alternative 005A6F3385258852_=-- --===============7190223706004333649== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive --===============7190223706004333649==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 30 10:30:49 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DC6A0F41 for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 10:30:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lj1-f175.google.com (unknown [209.85.208.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7A5A0F27 for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 10:30:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f175.google.com with SMTP id s13so382885ljd.4 for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 09:30:42 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Iu42ZuNaJO5q2gfY/tqgCmuVHxEJqAL/7okiOzz5e0M=; b=etN9VDR0E39yuhauI39e4tJaXxGuOls4Y9du4QvfhKSbetqh4Ctvb2omI4PmZGFsov Wt7Soocl4T+i8AcviWw/JTU5m1vXXRKrYoDA8/OkeuDSL0+18tpL/g/YZgw76/6I+utg BTcac6WCZR4SVCUoGEt3Xl+XD50fB3Lm6WhNjqAYwOKxDIcomzrcSqc8Z2zxwAai+Yw9 SPhrQO/qYd62w2pNtyGONh1na8Xz7MGFV8n2jb7cDqRDs3vvwoRxQ+Zx63tl2K4WK4r+ QVVus4QoBnWMlYvs9QD+CnY/UVX1AvwbNDyr4BuiQo6iC2G9U/aHu2tPhELbE+IA3f5c xthw== d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Iu42ZuNaJO5q2gfY/tqgCmuVHxEJqAL/7okiOzz5e0M=; b=Oxa7Fn69wwOxLz5+YJF7MofIx+TbeeGOpvI0elHoLTl1rQRcxMxqVqaiJa49oxyq1e ZUlXi+0q/Gt+ffEhTcVQAKPwTJK2zV8A7ggoAapZ5B4CZdB1YPk0xZdW4J3pcwx7NO87 Y7ZB8dFjBdPFgcw0hSA1gjHnvzgZuEd9V82K/Md8u87vQ0An9sz7xgGNqoKQs7YfpSie HQ7gAej4CiOdOsPzJeXY3GdMyWxi/kA7qV9LdpUpD+3Zdb79wkHgN8d9kYlMo45WzggG rY2LA0Exopm2baCGyX1LU3nFqqtnUrbZ2sTAoUR2XHV9Un3Q+p9Z1U/bIPtN5XXQ68Eb 9fSw== JTl4nlucBa0MA+WG1mbcZPQn2yBcxotkcWjESRZEDj3R j11-20020a2e824b000000b0024dc247c928mr33267668ljh.68.1653928241100; Mon, 30 May 2022 09:30:41 -0700 (PDT) References: <9ECB68AB-A4F4-48BE-9CE6-2034AC41981D@icloud.com> From: Jeff Scarbrough Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 12:30:28 -0400 To: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Pressure Gauges Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5697000082796024322== --0000000000004b7b0505e03d2df9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An electronic gauge based on a bridge strain sensor should be equally durable, as long as it's made from quality components. So, it's good electronics and good alloys that we are looking for. On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 11:11 AM Pat Horne wrote: > I have no research to base my assumption on but I think that a Bourdon > tube gauge will be the longest lasting gauge as long as it is used within > limits & should maintain its accuracy for as long as it is used. > > Electronic gauges & pencil gauges can change calibration over time but a > tube slightly straightening should not change calibration in the > comparatively few times we check our tires. I=E2=80=99ve seen Bourdon gau= ges that > are installed on water pumps where the readings shake violently that are > still accurate after decades of 24/7 operation. > > Peace, > Pat > > Pat Horne > We support Habitat for Humanity > > > On May 30, 2022, at 6:41 AM, Robert Rochlin wrote: > > =EF=BB=BFHi Guys, > I=E2=80=99ve been using a Jaco tire gauge for years. It is accurate, doe= sn=E2=80=99t use > batteries, and is warranted for life. The best part is that it glows in t= he > dark (really) and is very easy to read. For most of my life I used penci= l > type inflation gauges, which, while accurate, were really difficult to > read. > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010A6B6KG/ref=3Dredir_mobile_desktop?_encoding= =3DUTF8&aaxitk=3D3fb0d5ac19778cf96082216834cd8c21&content-id=3Damzn1.sym.48= 8a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3%3Aamzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4e= a4b560f3&hsa_cr_id=3D9387928130101&pd_rd_plhdr=3Dt&pd_rd_r=3D33e3d461-fb6d-= 4c4e-a750-20dec79ddb4f&pd_rd_w=3D4N9UY&pd_rd_wg=3DLAyD2&ref_=3Dsbx_be_s_spa= rkle_mcd_asin_0_img > > > Best, > Bob > =E2=80=9972 TR6 > > On May 30, 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair wrote: > > At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote: > > >I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox the > batteries > >didn't last very long, especially in the summer. > > I have to agree. I have a little nicer electronic one than the one Bob > suggested. > I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and leak > and > made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them and make the usable agai= n > is > a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take the batteries out of th= e > gauge > when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie. That way, when the > leak, they > don't mess up the gauge. > > John > > > > ------------------------------ > [image: Avast logo] > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > > > John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net > Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229 > > 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) > 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III > 65 Rambler Classic > > Morgan: http://autox.team.net/morgan/ > Bricklin: http://www.bricklin.org > > If you can read this - Thank a teacher! > If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!! > > From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy: > e pluribus Unum, "from many, one." > In God We Trust > Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for > oneself; freedom from control or restriction > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/rrochlin@comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas@icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate@gmail.com > > --0000000000004b7b0505e03d2df9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

An electronic gauge based on a bridge strain sensor should= be equally durable, as long as it's made from quality components.=C2= =A0 So, it's good electronics and good alloys that we are looking for.= =C2=A0=C2=A0

On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 11:11 AM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:

I have no r= esearch to base my assumption on but I think that a Bourdon tube gauge will= be the longest lasting gauge as long as it is used within limits & sho= uld maintain its accuracy for as long as it is used.=C2=A0

Electroni= c gauges & pencil gauges can change calibration over time but a tube sl= ightly straightening should not change calibration in the comparatively few= times we check our tires. I=E2=80=99ve seen Bourdon gauges that are instal= led on water pumps where the readings shake violently that are still accura= te after decades of 24/7 operation.=C2=A0

Peace,

Pat

Pat Horne=C2=A0

We support Habita= t for Humanity

On May 30, 20= 22, at 6:41 AM, Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFHi Guys,

I=E2=80=99ve been using a Jaco tire gauge for years.=C2=A0 It is accurate,= doesn=E2=80=99t use batteries, and is warranted for life. The best part is= that it glows in the dark (really) and is very easy to read.=C2=A0 For mos= t of my life I used pencil type inflation gauges, which, while accurate, we= re really difficult to read.=C2=A0

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B= 010A6B6KG/ref=3Dredir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=3DUTF8&aaxitk=3D3fb0d5ac= 19778cf96082216834cd8c21&content-id=3Damzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607= -bd4ea4b560f3%3Aamzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3&hsa_cr_i= d=3D9387928130101&pd_rd_plhdr=3Dt&pd_rd_r=3D33e3d461-fb6d-4c4e-a750= -20dec79ddb4f&pd_rd_w=3D4N9UY&pd_rd_wg=3DLAyD2&ref_=3Dsbx_be_s_= sparkle_mcd_asin_0_img

Best,=C2=A0

Bob

= =E2=80=9972 TR6

On May 30= , 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net> wrote:

At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote:

>I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox t= he batteries
>didn't last very long, especially in the summer.

I have to agree.=C2=A0 I have a little nicer electronic one than the one Bob suggested.=C2=A0
I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and le= ak and
made a mess in the gauges.=C2=A0 Trying to clean them and make the usable again is
a real pain.=C2=A0 So I strongly suggest that you take the batteries out of the gauge
when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie.=C2=A0 That way, when the leak, they
don't mess up the gauge.

John

This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
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--0000000000004b7b0505e03d2df9-- --===============5697000082796024322== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive --===============5697000082796024322==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 30 10:46:18 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2F2A0A54 for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 10:46:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from ms11p00im-qufo17281701.me.com (unknown [17.58.38.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642D8A0090 for ; Mon, 30 May 2022 10:46:09 -0600 (MDT) s=1a1hai; t=1653929169; bh=IVxTwtqd8EGVBgY4yHOU8Cn9h3cIAuEkyY7wEOdfBGM=; h=Content-Type:From:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To; b=Qkngp9HC5NxG/Lb5KE9OdJjAWwcLdk6QfTXfWzFoNCTz8VytkvfpUZjEsPV4+gCGP 2GnZuRVuQdzi+dvYpQqQC2mNYpApEYMya4ZfnzWW6z0NWS3luPaEmS9hBs713uIP6Q MNNRkDVKGuP/XRJTH6gq9P+n0eK89Sx+yrL9JFneTn9kGobszU34OztuhDq29gSKg2 5SStSKwv0NWPSX68DEdZq8Ow+3CqcLFiDRKtwhl1y/lmM4mukogtYaexVkJLbNJmE/ 4ccEbmeHw/hj+l2bCgfD/wmeJFwf9NzMTynJEpMRTDxph1d7hbXFdI4Ov9OFIfJkq0 l7fV8QLFIHngg== Received: from smtpclient.apple (ms11p00im-dlb-asmtpmailmevip.me.com [17.57.154.19]) by ms11p00im-qufo17281701.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 95C9E74262C; Mon, 30 May 2022 16:46:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Pat Horne Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 11:46:06 -0500 References: To: Jeff Scarbrough =?UTF-8?Q?2903e8d5c8f:6.0.425,18.0.816,17.0.605.474.0000000_definitions?= =?UTF-8?Q?=3D2022-01-18=5F01:2022-01-14=5F01,2022-01-18=5F01,2020-01-23?= =?UTF-8?Q?=5F02_signatures=3D0?= phishscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=0 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2202240000 definitions=main-2205300088 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire Pressure Gauges Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3126148063852890303== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-6EEF6606-9EE3-4CBE-8099-B2D409CEF92B charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Agreed. My main concern for the last decade or so is that some of the not =E2= =80=9Creal=E2=80=9D expensive manufacturers I used to use have cheapened the= ir products so it=E2=80=99s hard to judge quality. Peace, Pat Pat Horne=20 We support Habitat for Humanity On May 30, 2022, at 11:31 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: =EF=BB=BF An electronic gauge based on a bridge strain sensor should be equally durabl= e, as long as it's made from quality components. So, it's good electronics a= nd good alloys that we are looking for. =20 On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 11:11 AM Pat Horne wrote: > I have no research to base my assumption on but I think that a Bourdon tub= e gauge will be the longest lasting gauge as long as it is used within limit= s & should maintain its accuracy for as long as it is used.=20 >=20 > Electronic gauges & pencil gauges can change calibration over time but a t= ube slightly straightening should not change calibration in the comparativel= y few times we check our tires. I=E2=80=99ve seen Bourdon gauges that are in= stalled on water pumps where the readings shake violently that are still acc= urate after decades of 24/7 operation.=20 >=20 > Peace, > Pat >=20 > Pat Horne=20 > We support Habitat for Humanity >=20 >=20 > On May 30, 2022, at 6:41 AM, Robert Rochlin wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFHi Guys, > I=E2=80=99ve been using a Jaco tire gauge for years. It is accurat= e, doesn=E2=80=99t use batteries, and is warranted for life. The best part i= s that it glows in the dark (really) and is very easy to read. For most of m= y life I used pencil type inflation gauges, which, while accurate, were real= ly difficult to read.=20 > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010A6B6KG/ref=3Dredir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=3D= UTF8&aaxitk=3D3fb0d5ac19778cf96082216834cd8c21&content-id=3Damzn1.sym.488a18= be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3%3Aamzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b56= 0f3&hsa_cr_id=3D9387928130101&pd_rd_plhdr=3Dt&pd_rd_r=3D33e3d461-fb6d-4c4e-a= 750-20dec79ddb4f&pd_rd_w=3D4N9UY&pd_rd_wg=3DLAyD2&ref_=3Dsbx_be_s_sparkle_mc= d_asin_0_img >=20 > Best,=20 > Bob > =E2=80=9972 TR6 >=20 >> On May 30, 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair wrote: >>=20 >> At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote: >>=20 >> >I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox the ba= tteries=20 >> >didn't last very long, especially in the summer. >>=20 >> I have to agree. I have a little nicer electronic one than the one Bob s= uggested. =20 >> I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and leak= and=20 >> made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them and make the usable agai= n is >> a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take the batteries out of th= e gauge=20 >> when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie. That way, when the l= eak, they=20 >> don't mess up the gauge. >>=20 >> John >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> =09 >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.=20 >> www.avast.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net >> Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229 >>=20 >> 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) >> 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III >> 65 Rambler Classic >>=20 >> Morgan: http://autox.team.net/morgan/ >> Bricklin: http://www.bricklin.org >>=20 >> If you can read this - Thank a teacher! >> If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!! >>=20 >> =46rom Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy: >> e pluribus Unum, "from many, one." >> In God We Trust >> Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for=20 >> oneself; freedom from control or restriction=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >>=20 >> Shop-talk@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/ar= chive >>=20 >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/rroch= lin@comcast.net >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/arc= hive >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patint= exas@icloud.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/arc= hive >=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishpl= ate@gmail.com >=20 _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archi= ve as@icloud.com --Apple-Mail-6EEF6606-9EE3-4CBE-8099-B2D409CEF92B charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Agreed. My main concern for the last decade= or so is that some of the not =E2=80=9Creal=E2=80=9D expensive manufacturer= s I used to use have cheapened their products so it=E2=80=99s hard to judge q= uality.

Peace,

Pat

Pat H= orne

We support Habitat for Humanity

On May 30, 2022, at 11:31 AM, Jeff Scarbrough <fishplat= e@gmail.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF

An electronic gauge based on a bridge strain sensor should be equally dur= able, as long as it's made from quality components. So, it's good elec= tronics and good alloys that we are looking for.

On Mon, May 30, 2= 022 at 11:11 AM Pat Horne <patin= texas@icloud.com> wrote:

I have no research to base my assumption on b= ut I think that a Bourdon tube gauge will be the longest lasting gauge as lo= ng as it is used within limits & should maintain its accuracy for as lon= g as it is used.

Electronic gauges & pencil gauges can chan= ge calibration over time but a tube slightly straightening should not change= calibration in the comparatively few times we check our tires. I=E2=80=99ve= seen Bourdon gauges that are installed on water pumps where the readings sh= ake violently that are still accurate after decades of 24/7 operation. =

Peace,
Pat

Pat H= orne
We support Habitat for Humanity

On May 30, 2022, at 6:41 AM, Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net>= wrote:

=EF=BB=BFHi Guys,
I=E2=80=99ve been using a Jaco tire gauge fo= r years. It is accurate, doesn=E2=80=99t use batteries, and is warrant= ed for life. The best part is that it glows in the dark (really) and is very= easy to read. For most of my life I used pencil type inflation gauges= , which, while accurate, were really difficult to read.
https://= www.amazon.com/dp/B010A6B6KG/ref=3Dredir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=3DUTF8&= ;aaxitk=3D3fb0d5ac19778cf96082216834cd8c21&content-id=3Damzn1.sym.488a18= be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b560f3%3Aamzn1.sym.488a18be-6d86-4de0-8607-bd4ea4b56= 0f3&hsa_cr_id=3D9387928130101&pd_rd_plhdr=3Dt&pd_rd_r=3D33e3d461= -fb6d-4c4e-a750-20dec79ddb4f&pd_rd_w=3D4N9UY&pd_rd_wg=3DLAyD2&re= f_=3Dsbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_img

Best,
Bob
=E2=80=9972 TR6

On May 30, 2022, at 12:09 AM, John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net> wrote:

At 08:54 PM 5/29/2022, Randy wrote:

>I've had some of those and I found if i kept them in the glovebox the batteries
>didn't last very long, especially in the summer.

I have to agree. I have a little nicer electronic one than the one Bob suggested.
I've had the batteries go bad in several of my electronic gauges and leak and
made a mess in the gauges. Trying to clean them and make the usable again is
a real pain. So I strongly suggest that you take the batteries out of the gauge
when not in use and store them in a plastic baggie. That way, when the leak, they
don't mess up the gauge.

John

This email has been checked for viruses by A= vast antivirus software.
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     75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)    77 Spitfire    71 Saab Sonett III

            &nbs= p;          65 Rambler Classic

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Bricklin:     http://www.bricklin.org

If you can read this            = - Thank a teacher!

If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!!

=46rom Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy:

     e pluribus Unum, "from many, one."

     In God We Trust

     Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for

            &nbs= p;     oneself; freedom from control or restriction

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