Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Bear proof bird feeder.

From: Mark Watson <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 12:59:50 +0200 (CEST)

Instant thought: BOOOIIINNNGGG

And imagine if the bears decide they like boinging it over and over.   What a video that would make!

> On 04/01/2022 2:50 AM Mark Miller <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
>  
> Consider letting them bend it as they wish.  Weld a large spring 
> (perhaps a garage door spring, a car suspension spring, something easy 
> to find and heavy) and let them bend it as they wish. When they are done 
> it will return to vertical undamaged.
> 
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From: "Peter J. Thomas" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 10:00:07 -0400

I'll bet the would.  Though I sure a 3" 14 gauge post fill with concrete 
and cemetted to bedrock with rebar gussets should with stand the bears.  
I wondering more about what gauge steel plate I should use fabricate the 
bird feeder and weld it to the top of the post.  Feeder will only be 
about 6 feet off the ground so it's visible from inside the house.

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 I'm sure 1/4 inch steel plate will stand up to any bear.=C2=A0 Even 1/8 in=
ch plate will work.=C2=A0 Will 16 gauge steel be good enough?=C2=A0 Dunno.=
=C2=A0 Depends a lot on the dimensions.=C2=A0 Larger surfaces will more eas=
ily succumb to bear attack.=C2=A0 Also, return bends on the edges make it m=
uch stronger than a cut edge.=C2=A0 Dimensions matter
Another thing, what kind of bear are we talking about?=C2=A0 Grizzly, brown=
, Yogi?
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Dave=20

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From: Peter J. Thomas <[email-masked]>
To: Mark Watson <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2022 9:00 am
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Bear proof bird feeder.

I'll bet the would.=C2=A0 Though I sure a 3" 14 gauge post fill with concre=
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and cemetted to bedrock with rebar gussets should with stand the bears.=C2=
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I wondering more about what gauge steel plate I should use fabricate the=20
bird feeder and weld it to the top of the post.=C2=A0 Feeder will only be=
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about 6 feet off the ground so it's visible from inside the house.

On 4/1/2022 6:59 AM, Mark Watson wrote:
> And imagine if the bears decide they like boinging it over and over.=C2=
=A0 What a video that would make!
>>=C2=A0=20
>> Consider letting them bend it as they wish.=C2=A0 Weld a large spring
>> Mark Miller=C2=A0 707-490-5834
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<div> <font size=3D"3">I'm sure 1/4 inch steel plate will stand up to any b=
ear.&nbsp; Even 1/8 inch plate will work.&nbsp; Will 16 gauge steel be good=
 enough?&nbsp; Dunno.&nbsp; Depends a lot on the dimensions.&nbsp; Larger s=
urfaces will more easily succumb to bear attack.&nbsp; Also, return bends o=
n the edges make it much stronger than a cut edge.&nbsp; Dimensions matter<=
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<div><font size=3D"3">Another thing, what kind of bear are we talking about=
?&nbsp; Grizzly, brown, Yogi?</font><br>
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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Bear proof bird feeder.<br>
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e the house.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">On 4/1/2022 6:59 AM, Mark=
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ar=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; And imagine if the bears decide the=
y like boinging it over and over.&nbsp;  What a video that would make!<br c=
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Thanks!!!  I been toying with 10 gauge (1/8") or 16 gauge with 
reinforcements.  Going to see what cutoffs the metal deal has.  Black 
bear or two.  There is a pair that roams town.

On 4/2/2022 11:24 AM, DAVID MASSEY wrote:
> I'm sure 1/4 inch steel plate will stand up to any bear.  Even 1/8 
> inch plate will work.  Will 16 gauge steel be good enough?  Dunno.  
> Depends a lot on the dimensions.  Larger surfaces will more easily 
> succumb to bear attack.  Also, return bends on the edges make it much 
> stronger than a cut edge.  Dimensions matter
>
> Another thing, what kind of bear are we talking about?  Grizzly, 
> brown, Yogi?
>
> Dave
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks!!!  I been toying with 10 gauge
      (1/8") or 16 gauge with reinforcements.  Going to see what cutoffs
      the metal deal has.  Black bear or two.  There is a pair that
      roams town.<br>
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        <div> <font size="3">I'm sure 1/4 inch steel plate will stand
            up to any bear.  Even 1/8 inch plate will work.  Will 16
            gauge steel be good enough?  Dunno.  Depends a lot on the
            dimensions.  Larger surfaces will more easily succumb to
            bear attack.  Also, return bends on the edges make it much
            stronger than a cut edge.  Dimensions matter</font></div>
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        <div><font size="3">Another thing, what kind of bear are we
            talking about?  Grizzly, brown, Yogi?</font><br>
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            <div dir="ltr">I'll bet the would.  Though I sure a 3" 14
              gauge post fill with concrete <br clear="none">
              and cemetted to bedrock with rebar gussets should with
              stand the bears.  <br clear="none">
              I wondering more about what gauge steel plate I should use
              fabricate the <br clear="none">
              bird feeder and weld it to the top of the post.  Feeder
              will only be <br clear="none">
              about 6 feet off the ground so it's visible from inside
              the house.<br clear="none">
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              On 4/1/2022 6:59 AM, Mark Watson wrote:<br clear="none">
              &gt; Instant thought: BOOOIIINNNGGG<br clear="none">
              &gt;<br clear="none">
              &gt; And imagine if the bears decide they like boinging it
              over and over.  What a video that would make!<br
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              &gt;&gt; On 04/01/2022 2:50 AM Mark Miller &lt;<a
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              &gt;&gt; to find and heavy) and let them bend it as they
              wish. When they are done<br clear="none">
              &gt;&gt; it will return to vertical undamaged.<br
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From: "Peter J. Thomas" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 07:56:50 -0400

Good idea, though not sure it's necessary for black bear and I'd still 
have to make the feeder bear proof.

On 4/1/2022 2:46 PM, David Scheidt wrote:
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>> On Mar 31, 2022, at 19:51, Mark Miller <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>> Consider letting them bend it as they wish.  Weld a large spring (perhaps a garage door spring, a car suspension spring, something easy to find and heavy) and let them bend it as they wish. When they are done it will return to vertical undamaged.
> This is available as a commercial product, used for signs in front of a parking space.
>
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