Subject: [Shop-talk] LP Generator supply

From: Jim Stone <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 14:05:20 -0400

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I am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected paths of =
Hurricane Henri.  We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without power, =
although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy.  =
Shortly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator =
(https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generat=
or/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0=
MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE) which, of course, I have never =
needed, although I do run it periodically to be safe.  It is designed to =
run off of LP tanks and comes with a standard regulator.  A little =
Googling shows the following specs for the regulator:

Low Pressure Regulator
Inlet Pressure:               25-250PSIG
Outlet Pressure:            280mmH2O=3D (11"W.C.)
Flow Capacity(MAX):    119000(BTU/hr)

We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank.   =
I had an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled, just =
in case I ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect the =
generator directly to the house supply and avoid having to depend on the =
portable tanks.  The house supply is regulated and, as an example, here =
are the specs for the water heater:

Max Inlet Gas Pressure:    13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
Min Inlet Gas Pressure:     8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
Recovery Rating:               206/Gallons/HR
Max Working Pressure:     150psi
Max Output:                       180,000 BTU/HR
Max Input:                          11,000 BTU/HR
Manifold Pressure:             3.9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Max Input)

Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator =
directly to the house supply without the regulator?  For the record, I =
tried it once with the regulator attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=
=99t put out any appreciable power.  I always meant to research this =
before I needed it, but like many of us, never got around to it until =
now.

Thanks,
Jim

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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected paths of =
Hurricane Henri. &nbsp;We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without =
power, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy. =
&nbsp;Shortly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator (<a =
href=3D"https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-=
generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jm=
Ozjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE" =
class=3D"">https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propa=
ne-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO=
0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE</a>) which, of =
course, I have never needed, although I do run it periodically to be =
safe. &nbsp;It is designed to run off of LP tanks and comes with a =
standard regulator. &nbsp;A little Googling shows the following specs =
for the regulator:<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><ul=
 class=3D"MailOutline"><li class=3D"">Low Pressure Regulator</li><li =
class=3D"">Inlet Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; 25-250PSIG</li><li class=3D"">Outlet Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;280mmH2O=3D (11"W.C.)</li><li class=3D"">Flow =
Capacity(MAX): &nbsp; &nbsp;119000(BTU/hr)</li></ul><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D"">We use Propane for DHW and heat =
and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank. &nbsp; I had an outside gas line =
stubbed out when the house was remodeled, just in case I ever needed it =
and I would like to be able to connect the generator directly to the =
house supply and avoid having to depend on the portable tanks. &nbsp;The =
house supply is regulated and, as an example, here are the specs for the =
water heater:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><ul class=3D"MailOutline"><li class=3D"">Max Inlet Gas =
Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp;13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li class=3D"">Min Inlet =
Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; 8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li class=3D"">Recovery =
Rating: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
206/Gallons/HR</li><li class=3D"">Max Working Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; =
150psi</li><li class=3D"">Max Output: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 180,000 BTU/HR</li><li =
class=3D"">Max Input: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;11,000 BTU/HR</li><li =
class=3D"">Manifold Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
3.9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Max Input)</li></ul><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Am I missing anything, or should I be =
able to hook the generator directly to the house supply without the =
regulator? &nbsp;For the record, I tried it once with the regulator =
attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t put out any appreciable =
power. &nbsp;I always meant to research this before I needed it, but =
like many of us, never got around to it until now.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div =
class=3D"">Jim</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></body></html>=

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From: Thomas Coradeschi <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 15:22:07 -0400

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Probably preaching to the choir, but make sure any windows to that porch are=
 closed!

Tom Coradeschi
[email-masked]

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:20 PM, Jim Stone <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFThanks.  The generator is currently sitting in a screened-in porc=
h and, as long as it is reasonably dry in there during the storm, I wiI run i=
t there off of the tanks at first and connect it to the house supply once th=
e rain stops.  I think our hatches are sufficiently battened down.  It is he=
lpful that this will hit during daylight hours.  And, some really tall, unhe=
althy trees have already been removed from our house and the two adjacent pr=
operties, which is certainly good. =20
>=20
> I assume I will know a heck of a lot more in 24 hours or so!
>=20
>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Thomas Coradeschi <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>>=20
>> Jim: You should be good to go. Time=E2=80=99s a wastin=E2=80=99!
>>=20
>> Tom Coradeschi
>> [email-masked]
>>=20
>>>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Jim Stone <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BFI am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected p=
aths of Hurricane Henri.  We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without po=
wer, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy.  Short=
ly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator (https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-=
tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBh=
BPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_Bw=
E) which, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it periodically t=
o be safe.  It is designed to run off of LP tanks and comes with a standard r=
egulator.  A little Googling shows the following specs for the regulator:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank.   I=
 had an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled, just in c=
ase I ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect the generator di=
rectly to the house supply and avoid having to depend on the portable tanks.=
  The house supply is regulated and, as an example, here are the specs for t=
he water heater:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator directl=
y to the house supply without the regulator?  For the record, I tried it onc=
e with the regulator attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t put out a=
ny appreciable power.  I always meant to research this before I needed it, b=
ut like many of us, never got around to it until now.
>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Probably preaching to the choir, but make s=
ure any windows to that porch are closed!<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><span styl=
e=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tom Coradeschi</span><div><s=
pan dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">tjcora@i=
cloud.com</span></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">O=
n Aug 21, 2021, at 3:20 PM, Jim Stone &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br=
><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Tha=
nks. &nbsp;The generator is currently sitting in a screened-in porch and, as=
 long as it is reasonably&nbsp;dry&nbsp;in there during the storm, I wiI run=
 it there off of the tanks at first and connect it to the house supply once t=
he rain stops. &nbsp;I think our hatches are sufficiently battened down. &nb=
sp;It is helpful that this will hit during daylight hours. &nbsp;And, some r=
eally tall, unhealthy trees have already been removed from our house and the=
 two adjacent properties, which is certainly good. &nbsp;<div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I assume I will know a heck of a lot more i=
n 24 hours or so!<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite=
" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Thomas Coradeschi &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta h=
ttp-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D""=
><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Jim: You should be good to go. Time=E2=80=99s a=
 wastin=E2=80=99!<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><=
span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=3D"">Tom Cora=
deschi</span><div class=3D""><span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"background-color: rg=
ba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=
=3D"">[email-masked]</a></span></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><b=
r class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Aug 21, 2021, at 2:08 P=
M, Jim Stone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">1789alpi=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></blockquote></div>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<m=
eta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=
=3D"">I am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected paths of=
 Hurricane Henri. &nbsp;We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without powe=
r, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy. &nbsp;Sh=
ortly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator (<a href=3D"https://www.jbtool=
s.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gcli=
d=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxK=
o54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE" class=3D"">https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen400=
0lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7=
zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE</a>) w=
hich, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it periodically to b=
e safe. &nbsp;It is designed to run off of LP tanks and comes with a standar=
d regulator. &nbsp;A little Googling shows the following specs for the regul=
ator:<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><ul class=3D"MailO=
utline"><li class=3D"">Low Pressure Regulator</li><li class=3D"">Inlet Press=
ure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25-250PSIG</li><li cla=
ss=3D"">Outlet Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;280mmH2O=3D=
 (11"W.C.)</li><li class=3D"">Flow Capacity(MAX): &nbsp; &nbsp;119000(BTU/hr=
)</li></ul><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D"">We use=
 Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank. &nbsp; I had=
 an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled, just in case I=
 ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect the generator directl=
y to the house supply and avoid having to depend on the portable tanks. &nbs=
p;The house supply is regulated and, as an example, here are the specs for t=
he water heater:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><=
ul class=3D"MailOutline"><li class=3D"">Max Inlet Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp=
;13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li class=3D"">Min Inlet Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li class=3D"">Recovery Rating: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 206/Gallons/HR</li><li class=3D"">Max Working Pre=
ssure: &nbsp; &nbsp; 150psi</li><li class=3D"">Max Output: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 180,000 BTU/HR</=
li><li class=3D"">Max Input: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;11,000 BTU/HR</li><li class=3D"">=
Manifold Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3.9 =E2=80=9CW.=
C. (For Max Input)</li></ul><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D=
"">Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator directly=
 to the house supply without the regulator? &nbsp;For the record, I tried it=
 once with the regulator attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t put o=
ut any appreciable power. &nbsp;I always meant to research this before I nee=
ded it, but like many of us, never got around to it until now.</div><div cla=
ss=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"">Ji=
m</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D=
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From: Mark Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 13:43:32 -0700

Putting two regulators in series (like when you hooked your regulator to 
the already regulated house supply) does not work well: regulators need 
a bit more pressure on its input to overcome its internal drops. So it 
was fine for the first one but the second one was starved and restricted 
the flow.  Hooking the generator directly to your existing piping should 
be just fine (that's how I ran mine when we lost power out here due to 
wildfires the past couple of years).  Good luck with your upcoming 
weather.  And if you want to be fancy with hooking it up I recommend an 
interlock to attach (safely!) to your house panel.  I used: 
https://www.geninterlock.com/ and have put a few of them in for others.  
Inexpensive, easy to use and install, safe.

Regards,

Mark Miller   707-490-5834
[email-masked]

> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 14:05:20 -0400
> From: Jim Stone <[email-masked]>
> To: Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
> Subject: [Shop-talk] LP Generator supply
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> I am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected paths of Hurricane Henri.  We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without power, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy.  Shortly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator (https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=off&gclid=CjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE) which, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it periodically to be safe.  It is designed to run off of LP tanks and comes with a standard regulator.  A little Googling shows the following specs for the regulator:
>
> Low Pressure Regulator
> Outlet Pressure:            280mmH2O= (11"W.C.)
> We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank.   I had an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled, just in case I ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect the generator directly to the house supply and avoid having to depend on the portable tanks.  The house supply is regulated and, as an example, here are the specs for the water heater:
>
> Max Inlet Gas Pressure:    13.0 ?W.C.
> Min Inlet Gas Pressure:     8.0 ?W.C.
> Manifold Pressure:             3.9 ?W.C. (For Max Input)
>
> Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator directly to the house supply without the regulator?  For the record, I tried it once with the regulator attached and it barely ran and didn?t put out any appreciable power.  I always meant to research this before I needed it, but like many of us, never got around to it until now.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
>

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 17:15:23 -0400

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You=E2=80=99ll be good with what you have. I have a 3 kW Honda on a 10 circu=
it transfer switch, feeding a 2600 ft2 house. We can=E2=80=99t run the the b=
ig power hogs - A/C or electric oven - but other than that, we are good. We r=
un some lighting, internet/computer/TV, NG powered  heat, HW, cooktop, dryer=
 and grill, etc. Its an inverter based system and it rarely runs much above i=
dle unless heat, both fridges, freezer and coffee maker are all calling for p=
ower at the same time.

Tom Coradeschi
[email-masked]

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Jim Stone <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF=46rom David:
>=20
>> You need a low pressure regulator. Input is 10 to 15ish inches of water. =
 Output is 10 inches water.=20
> Steal the one from your furnace, if you need to.
>=20
> There is a regulator between the tank and the house, so it comes in before=
 the line to the outside.  It is hard to read the regulator, as it is under t=
he porch, which is why I gave the stats for the water heater.=20
>=20
> =46rom Pat:
>=20
>> Silly question. Did you talk to the folks that installed the generator?
>=20
>=20
> Not silly, but it isn=E2=80=99t a permanent whole house generator.  I=E2=80=
=99ve thought about installing one, and certainly will if weather patterns c=
hange enough that we are dealing with this more often, but the price didn=E2=
=80=99t seem justified given the amount of use that it would get.  As I said=
, I have had this one for about 8 years and never had to use it.  My main wo=
rry has always been an extended outage in the winter, but we don=E2=80=99t n=
eed much amperage with propane heat for the furnaces. (Separate heat in the s=
hop.  Hey!  Shop content!).  I haven=E2=80=99t done the exact math, but beli=
eve that 4000 Surge Watts/3250 Running Watts will be enough to keep things g=
oing here for as long as it takes=E2=80=A6as long as I can run off of the in=
-ground tank.
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>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:46 PM, Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>=20
>> Silly question. Did you talk to the folks that installed the generator?
>>=20
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>>=20
>> Pat Horne=20
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>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Jim Stone <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>> =EF=BB=BFI am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected pa=
ths of Hurricane Henri.  We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without pow=
er, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy.  Shortl=
y after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator (https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-t=
ools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhB=
PEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE=
) which, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it periodically t=
o be safe.  It is designed to run off of LP tanks and comes with a standard r=
he water heater:
>> Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator directly=
 to the house supply without the regulator?  For the record, I tried it once=
 with the regulator attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t put out an=
y appreciable power.  I always meant to research this before I needed it, bu=
t like many of us, never got around to it until now.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">You=E2=80=99ll be good with what you have. I=
 have a 3 kW Honda on a 10 circuit transfer switch, feeding a 2600 ft2 house=
. We can=E2=80=99t run the the big power hogs - A/C or electric oven - but o=
ther than that, we are good. We run some lighting, internet/computer/TV, NG p=
owered &nbsp;heat, HW, cooktop, dryer and grill, etc. Its an inverter based s=
ystem and it rarely runs much above idle unless heat, both fridges, freezer a=
nd coffee maker are all calling for power at the same time.<br><br><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tom Coradesc=
hi</span><div><span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 25=
5, 0);">[email-masked]</span></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite">On Aug 21, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Jim Stone &lt;[email-masked]=
om&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; chars=
et=3Dutf-8">=46rom David:<div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br cla=
ss=3D""></div><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div dir=3D=
"auto" class=3D"">You need a low pressure regulator. Input is 10 to 15ish in=
ches of water. &nbsp;Output is 10 inches water.&nbsp;</div></blockquote><fon=
t color=3D"#5856d6" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(88, 86, 214);=
" class=3D"">Steal the one from your furnace, if you need to.</span></font><=
/div><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">There is a regulator between the tank and the h=
ouse, so it comes in before the line to the outside. &nbsp;It is hard to rea=
d the regulator, as it is under the porch, which is why I gave the stats for=
 the water heater.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div clas=
s=3D"">=46rom Pat:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""=
><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Silly que=
stion. Did you talk to the folks that installed the generator?</div></blockq=
uote></div><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div=
></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Not silly, but it isn=E2=80=99t a perman=
ent whole house generator. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99ve thought about installing one, a=
nd certainly will if weather patterns change enough that we are dealing with=
 this more often, but the price didn=E2=80=99t seem justified given the amou=
nt of use that it would get. &nbsp;As I said, I have had this one for about 8=
 years and never had to use it. &nbsp;My main worry has always been an exten=
ded outage in the winter, but we don=E2=80=99t need much amperage with propa=
ne heat for the furnaces. (Separate heat in the shop. &nbsp;Hey! &nbsp;Shop c=
ontent!). &nbsp;I haven=E2=80=99t done the exact math, but believe that&nbsp=
;4000 Surge Watts/3250 Running Watts will be enough to keep things going her=
e for as long as it takes=E2=80=A6as long as I can run off of the in-ground t=
ank.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div clas=
s=3D"">On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:46 PM, Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:patintex=
[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br clas=
s=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta http-equiv=3D"content-=
type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" cl=
ass=3D"">Silly question. Did you talk to the folks that installed the genera=
tor?<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Peace,</div><div cl=
ass=3D"">Pat<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Pat Ho=
rne&nbsp;<div class=3D"">We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div class=3D"=
"><br class=3D""></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D"">On A=
ug 21, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Jim Stone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D=
""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Ty=
pe" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D"">I am on Eastern Long I=
sland, directly in one of the projected paths of Hurricane Henri. &nbsp;We a=
re being told to plan for 7-10 days without power, although FWIW we were onl=
y powerless for 4 days following Sandy. &nbsp;Shortly after Sandy I purchase=
d an LP Generator (<a href=3D"https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000l=
p-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zl=
l1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE" class=3D=
"">https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generat=
or/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-=
t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE</a>) which, of course, I have never=
 needed, although I do run it periodically to be safe. &nbsp;It is designed t=
o run off of LP tanks and comes with a standard regulator. &nbsp;A little Go=
ogling shows the following specs for the regulator:<div class=3D""><br class=
=3D""></div><div class=3D""><ul class=3D"MailOutline"><li class=3D"">Low Pre=
ssure Regulator</li><li class=3D"">Inlet Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25-250PSIG</li><li class=3D"">Outlet Pressure: &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;280mmH2O=3D (11"W.C.)</li><li class=3D""=
>Flow Capacity(MAX): &nbsp; &nbsp;119000(BTU/hr)</li></ul><div class=3D""><b=
r class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D"">We use Propane for DHW and heat and=
 have a 500 gallon in-ground tank. &nbsp; I had an outside gas line stubbed o=
ut when the house was remodeled, just in case I ever needed it and I would l=
ike to be able to connect the generator directly to the house supply and avo=
id having to depend on the portable tanks. &nbsp;The house supply is regulat=
ed and, as an example, here are the specs for the water heater:</div><div cl=
ass=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><ul class=3D"MailOutline"><li c=
lass=3D"">Max Inlet Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp;13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li cl=
ass=3D"">Min Inlet Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; 8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li cla=
ss=3D"">Recovery Rating: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 20=
6/Gallons/HR</li><li class=3D"">Max Working Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; 150psi</=
li><li class=3D"">Max Output: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 180,000 BTU/HR</li><li class=3D"">Max Input: &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp;11,000 BTU/HR</li><li class=3D"">Manifold Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3.9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Max Input)</li></ul><di=
v class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Am I missing anything, or s=
hould I be able to hook the generator directly to the house supply without t=
he regulator? &nbsp;For the record, I tried it once with the regulator attac=
hed and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t put out any appreciable power. &nbs=
p;I always meant to research this before I needed it, but like many of us, n=
ever got around to it until now.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><=
div class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"">Jim</div><div class=3D""><br cla=
ss=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><span class=3D"">__=
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Thanks, Tom. I have  transfer switch for the house furnace; a bigger one has=
 long been on the to do list. This may move that up a bit.=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 5:15 PM, Thomas Coradeschi <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BFYou=E2=80=99ll be good with what you have. I have a 3 kW Honda on=
 a 10 circuit transfer switch, feeding a 2600 ft2 house. We can=E2=80=99t ru=
n the the big power hogs - A/C or electric oven - but other than that, we ar=
e good. We run some lighting, internet/computer/TV, NG powered  heat, HW, co=
oktop, dryer and grill, etc. Its an inverter based system and it rarely runs=
 much above idle unless heat, both fridges, freezer and coffee maker are all=
 calling for power at the same time.
>>> You need a low pressure regulator. Input is 10 to 15ish inches of water.=
>> There is a regulator between the tank and the house, so it comes in befor=
e the line to the outside.  It is hard to read the regulator, as it is under=
 the porch, which is why I gave the stats for the water heater.=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Thanks, Tom. I have &nbsp;transfer switch f=
or the house furnace; a bigger one has long been on the to do list. This may=
 move that up a bit.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Aug 21, 2021, at 5:15 PM, T=
homas Coradeschi &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"cont=
ent-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">You=E2=80=99ll be good with=
 what you have. I have a 3 kW Honda on a 10 circuit transfer switch, feeding=
 a 2600 ft2 house. We can=E2=80=99t run the the big power hogs - A/C or elec=
tric oven - but other than that, we are good. We run some lighting, internet=
/computer/TV, NG powered &nbsp;heat, HW, cooktop, dryer and grill, etc. Its a=
n inverter based system and it rarely runs much above idle unless heat, both=
 fridges, freezer and coffee maker are all calling for power at the same tim=
e.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 2=
55, 0);">Tom Coradeschi</span><div><span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"background-col=
or: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">[email-masked]</span></div></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Aug 21, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Jim Stone &=
lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" conte=
nt=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">=46rom David:<div class=3D""><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite=
" class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">You need a low pressure regulator.=
 Input is 10 to 15ish inches of water. &nbsp;Output is 10 inches water.&nbsp=
;</div></blockquote><font color=3D"#5856d6" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-=
color: rgb(88, 86, 214);" class=3D"">Steal the one from your furnace, if you=
 need to.</span></font></div><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><b=
r class=3D""></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">There is a regulator be=
tween the tank and the house, so it comes in before the line to the outside.=
 &nbsp;It is hard to read the regulator, as it is under the porch, which is w=
hy I gave the stats for the water heater.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br cla=
ss=3D""></div><div class=3D"">=46rom Pat:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D"=
"></div><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div dir=3D"aut=
o" class=3D"">Silly question. Did you talk to the folks that installed the g=
enerator?</div></blockquote></div><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D=
""><br class=3D""></div></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Not silly, but it=
 isn=E2=80=99t a permanent whole house generator. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99ve thought=
 about installing one, and certainly will if weather patterns change enough t=
hat we are dealing with this more often, but the price didn=E2=80=99t seem j=
ustified given the amount of use that it would get. &nbsp;As I said, I have h=
ad this one for about 8 years and never had to use it. &nbsp;My main worry h=
as always been an extended outage in the winter, but we don=E2=80=99t need m=
uch amperage with propane heat for the furnaces. (Separate heat in the shop.=
 &nbsp;Hey! &nbsp;Shop content!). &nbsp;I haven=E2=80=99t done the exact mat=
h, but believe that&nbsp;4000 Surge Watts/3250 Running Watts will be enough t=
o keep things going here for as long as it takes=E2=80=A6as long as I can ru=
n off of the in-ground tank.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:46 PM, Pat Horne &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><met=
a http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D=
""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Silly question. Did you talk to the folks th=
at installed the generator?<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D=
"">Peace,</div><div class=3D"">Pat<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div class=3D"">We support Habitat for Humani=
ty</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
""><br class=3D"">On Aug 21, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Jim Stone &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br c=
lass=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<meta ht=
tp-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D"">=
I am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected paths of Hurri=
cane Henri. &nbsp;We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without power, alt=
hough FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy. &nbsp;Shortly a=
fter Sandy I purchased an LP Generator (<a href=3D"https://www.jbtools.com/b=
uffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjw=
KCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54Tpho=
C__4QAvD_BwE" class=3D"">https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-400=
0-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54=
VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE</a>) which, o=
f course, I have never needed, although I do run it periodically to be safe.=
 &nbsp;It is designed to run off of LP tanks and comes with a standard regul=
ator. &nbsp;A little Googling shows the following specs for the regulator:<d=
iv class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><ul class=3D"MailOutline"=
><li class=3D"">Low Pressure Regulator</li><li class=3D"">Inlet Pressure: &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25-250PSIG</li><li class=3D""=
>Outlet Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;280mmH2O=3D (11"W=
.C.)</li><li class=3D"">Flow Capacity(MAX): &nbsp; &nbsp;119000(BTU/hr)</li>=
</ul><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D"">We use Propa=
ne for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank. &nbsp; I had an ou=
tside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled, just in case I ever=
 needed it and I would like to be able to connect the generator directly to t=
he house supply and avoid having to depend on the portable tanks. &nbsp;The h=
ouse supply is regulated and, as an example, here are the specs for the wate=
r heater:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><ul clas=
s=3D"MailOutline"><li class=3D"">Max Inlet Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp;13.0 =E2=
=80=9CW.C.</li><li class=3D"">Min Inlet Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; 8.0 =E2=80=
=9CW.C.</li><li class=3D"">Recovery Rating: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; 206/Gallons/HR</li><li class=3D"">Max Working Pressure: &nb=
sp; &nbsp; 150psi</li><li class=3D"">Max Output: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 180,000 BTU/HR</li><li cla=
ss=3D"">Max Input: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;11,000 BTU/HR</li><li class=3D"">Manifold P=
ressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3.9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Ma=
x Input)</li></ul><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Am I m=
issing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator directly to the h=
ouse supply without the regulator? &nbsp;For the record, I tried it once wit=
h the regulator attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t put out any ap=
preciable power. &nbsp;I always meant to research this before I needed it, b=
ut like many of us, never got around to it until now.</div><div class=3D""><=
br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"">Jim</div><d=
iv class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></di=
v><span class=3D"">_______________________________________________</span><br=
 class=3D""><span class=3D""></span><br class=3D""><span class=3D""><a href=3D=
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You also might look into a gas quick disconnect so it=E2=80=99s faster, easi=
er & safer to connect the generator next time. The connectors are similar to=
 air hose fittings except the male fitting also has a valve in it. I purchas=
ed what was called an extended stay kit for an RV. There are a bunch of diff=
erent ones, some just fittings. It might be hard to find connectors big enou=
gh at RV supply centers.=20

Peace,
Pat

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=EF=BB=BFThanks, Tom. I have  transfer switch for the house furnace; a bigge=
r one has long been on the to do list. This may move that up a bit.=20

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">You also might look into a gas quick discon=
nect so it=E2=80=99s faster, easier &amp; safer to connect the generator nex=
t time. The connectors are similar to air hose fittings except the male fitt=
ing also has a valve in it. I purchased what was called an extended stay kit=
 for an RV. There are a bunch of different ones, some just fittings. It migh=
t be hard to find connectors big enough at RV supply centers.&nbsp;<div><br>=
</div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>=
We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br>On Aug 21, 2021, at 9:42 PM, Jim Stone &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote=
:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" c=
ontent=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Thanks, Tom. I have &nbsp;transfer swi=
tch for the house furnace; a bigger one has long been on the to do list. Thi=
s may move that up a bit.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Aug 21, 2021, at 5:15=
 PM, Thomas Coradeschi &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote>=
</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D=
"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">You=E2=80=99ll be good=
 with what you have. I have a 3 kW Honda on a 10 circuit transfer switch, fe=
eding a 2600 ft2 house. We can=E2=80=99t run the the big power hogs - A/C or=
 electric oven - but other than that, we are good. We run some lighting, int=
ernet/computer/TV, NG powered &nbsp;heat, HW, cooktop, dryer and grill, etc.=
 Its an inverter based system and it rarely runs much above idle unless heat=
, both fridges, freezer and coffee maker are all calling for power at the sa=
me time.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 2=
55, 255, 0);">Tom Coradeschi</span><div><span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"backgroun=
d-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">[email-masked]</span></div></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Aug 21, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Jim St=
one &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" c=
ontent=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">=46rom David:<div class=3D""><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te" class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">You need a low pressure regulato=
r. Input is 10 to 15ish inches of water. &nbsp;Output is 10 inches water.&nb=
sp;</div></blockquote><font color=3D"#5856d6" class=3D""><span style=3D"care=
t-color: rgb(88, 86, 214);" class=3D"">Steal the one from your furnace, if y=
ou need to.</span></font></div><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">=
<br class=3D""></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">There is a regulator b=
etween the tank and the house, so it comes in before the line to the outside=
. &nbsp;It is hard to read the regulator, as it is under the porch, which is=
 why I gave the stats for the water heater.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br c=
lass=3D""></div><div class=3D"">=46rom Pat:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D=
""></div><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div dir=3D"au=
to" class=3D"">Silly question. Did you talk to the folks that installed the g=
enerator?</div></blockquote></div><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D=
""><br class=3D""></div></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Not silly, but it=
 isn=E2=80=99t a permanent whole house generator. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99ve thought=
 about installing one, and certainly will if weather patterns change enough t=
hat we are dealing with this more often, but the price didn=E2=80=99t seem j=
ustified given the amount of use that it would get. &nbsp;As I said, I have h=
ad this one for about 8 years and never had to use it. &nbsp;My main worry h=
as always been an extended outage in the winter, but we don=E2=80=99t need m=
uch amperage with propane heat for the furnaces. (Separate heat in the shop.=
 &nbsp;Hey! &nbsp;Shop content!). &nbsp;I haven=E2=80=99t done the exact mat=
h, but believe that&nbsp;4000 Surge Watts/3250 Running Watts will be enough t=
o keep things going here for as long as it takes=E2=80=A6as long as I can ru=
n off of the in-ground tank.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:46 PM, Pat Horne &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><met=
a http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D=
""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Silly question. Did you talk to the folks th=
at installed the generator?<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D=
"">Peace,</div><div class=3D"">Pat<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div class=3D"">We support Habitat for Humani=
ty</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
""><br class=3D"">On Aug 21, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Jim Stone &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br c=
lass=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<meta ht=
tp-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D"">=
I am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected paths of Hurri=
cane Henri. &nbsp;We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without power, alt=
hough FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy. &nbsp;Shortly a=
fter Sandy I purchased an LP Generator (<a href=3D"https://www.jbtools.com/b=
uffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjw=
KCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54Tpho=
C__4QAvD_BwE" class=3D"">https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-400=
0-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54=
VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE</a>) which, o=
f course, I have never needed, although I do run it periodically to be safe.=
 &nbsp;It is designed to run off of LP tanks and comes with a standard regul=
ator. &nbsp;A little Googling shows the following specs for the regulator:<d=
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