Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Steering gear oil

From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 11:31:31 -0500

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I=E2=80=99m not involved w/British cars, but old Japanese cars & would like s=
ome information about the vehicles that y=E2=80=99all are considering using c=
ornhead grease on. Are these steering boxes recirculating ball or worm & peg=
 boxes? The Datsun roadsters I=E2=80=99m involved with use both types depend=
ing on year.=20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On May 4, 2021, at 11:26 PM, Jack Brooks <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
A lot of Triumph guys like Cornhead grease in the steering box too.  Leaks a=
re a lot less likely than the specified oils.
=20
Jack
=20
From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Jim Stone
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 10:37 AM
To: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Steering gear oil
=20
Thanks, Bob. I didn=E2=80=99t want to hijack the thread, so I changed the su=
bject line, just in case anyone else was interested in the topic.=20
=20
Cornhead grease was recently suggested on the Alpine forum, probably by some=
one who owns an Alpine and a Healey. In fact, I found the cotton picker oil w=
hile looking for cornhead grease.  Besides being more readily available, at l=
east if you have a Tractor Supply nearby, it is just slightly thinner than t=
he grease, which might make it easier to get in the box but still thick enou=
gh not to leak out. I won=E2=80=99t know until I try it, and that might be a=
 while. This is pretty low on my to do list right now; I just bought it beca=
use I was in the vicinity of a TS store, something that doesn=E2=80=99t happ=
en all that often.=20
=20
Sent from my iPhone

On May 4, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF Side note: The 'goto' for leaky steering boxes in the Austin-Heale=
y universe is John Deere 'Cornhead Grease;' available at many places online (=
and probably equivalent to spindle grease). A friend sent me a couple tubes,=
 but I haven't tried it yet; getting it in the box is the hard part.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99m not involved w/British cars, bu=
t old Japanese cars &amp; would like some information about the vehicles tha=
t y=E2=80=99all are considering using cornhead grease on. Are these steering=
 boxes recirculating ball or worm &amp; peg boxes? The Datsun roadsters I=E2=
=80=99m involved with use both types depending on year.&nbsp;<div><br></div>=
<div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We sup=
port Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On M=
ay 4, 2021, at 11:26 PM, Jack Brooks &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br=
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es New Roman&quot;,serif;color:#002060">A lot of Triumph guys like Cornhead g=
rease in the steering box too. &nbsp;Leaks are a lot less likely than the sp=
ecified oils.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk &lt;[email-masked]=
am.net&gt; <b>
On Behalf Of </b>Jim Stone<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 4, 2021 10:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Steering gear oil<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks, Bob. I didn=E2=80=99t want to hijack the thre=
ad, so I changed the subject line, just in case anyone else was interested i=
n the topic.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cornhead grease was recently suggested on the Alpine f=
orum, probably by someone who owns an Alpine and a Healey. In fact, I found t=
he cotton picker oil while looking for cornhead grease. &nbsp;Besides being m=
ore readily available, at least if
 you have a Tractor Supply nearby, it is just slightly thinner than the grea=
se, which
<u>might</u> make it easier to get in the box but still thick enough not to l=
eak out. I won=E2=80=99t know until I try it, and that might be a while. Thi=
s is pretty low on my to do list right now; I just bought it because I was i=
n the vicinity of a TS store, something
 that doesn=E2=80=99t happen all that often.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On May 4, 2021, at 10:=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BF Side note: The 'goto' for leaky steering bo=
xes in the Austin-Healey universe is John Deere 'Cornhead Grease;' available=
 at many places online (and probably equivalent to spindle grease). A friend=
 sent me a couple tubes, but I haven't
 tried it yet; getting it in the box is the hard part.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
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From: Jim Stone <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 17:06:39 -0400

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Interesting.  The Alpine is a recirculating ball unit, but the issues =
are the same.  The OEM specification was 90wt gear oil, but that has a =
tendency to leak out after 50+ years.  I packed mine with regular grease =
many years ago and, while it still feels fine and I haven=E2=80=99t =
pulled the top cover off to check, I gather that because grease =
doesn=E2=80=99t flow, it will gradually get pushed away from the gears =
if I didn=E2=80=99t get the packing perfect.  So, I will eventually =
replace it with what I recently purchased, and then with the corn head =
grease if that doesn=E2=80=99t work.

Here is a John Deere video discussing the grease.  =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7zNhli-J0Gk (I can=E2=80=99t help but =
think the Deere video is actually modeled on the old Turbo Encabulator =
video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAc7G7xOG2Ag)

And, here is an exploded view of an Alpine gear. =20

Jim

> On May 5, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Jack Brooks <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Pat,
> =20
> My TR3 is a worm and peg.=20
> =20
> The way it was explained to me=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..  Cornhead grease is =
that it=E2=80=99s a semi-fluid, self-leveling grease thick enough to =
stay put, but will liquify easier than regular grease, so it=E2=80=99ll =
work =E2=80=9Cas an oil=E2=80=9D in steering boxes that specify oil, not =
grease.
> =20
> I couldn=E2=80=99t find the John Deere spec sheet quickly, but a =
number of the properties are highlighted here.
> =
https://www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Special-Purpose-Corn-Head-Gun-Gr=
ease-AN102562.html =
<https://www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Special-Purpose-Corn-Head-Gun-G=
rease-AN102562.html>
> =20
> Jack
> =20
> From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>=20
> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:32 AM
> To: Jack Brooks <[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked]
> I=E2=80=99m not involved w/British cars, but old Japanese cars & would =
like some information about the vehicles that y=E2=80=99all are =
considering using cornhead grease on. Are these steering boxes =
recirculating ball or worm & peg boxes? The Datsun roadsters I=E2=80=99m =
involved with use both types depending on year.=20
> On May 4, 2021, at 11:26 PM, Jack Brooks <[email-masked] =
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF=20
> A lot of Triumph guys like Cornhead grease in the steering box too.  =
Leaks are a lot less likely than the specified oils.
> =20
> Jack
> =20
> From: Shop-talk <[email-masked] =
> Thanks, Bob. I didn=E2=80=99t want to hijack the thread, so I changed =
the subject line, just in case anyone else was interested in the topic.=20=

> =20
> Cornhead grease was recently suggested on the Alpine forum, probably =
by someone who owns an Alpine and a Healey. In fact, I found the cotton =
picker oil while looking for cornhead grease.  Besides being more =
readily available, at least if you have a Tractor Supply nearby, it is =
just slightly thinner than the grease, which might make it easier to get =
in the box but still thick enough not to leak out. I won=E2=80=99t know =
until I try it, and that might be a while. This is pretty low on my to =
do list right now; I just bought it because I was in the vicinity of a =
TS store, something that doesn=E2=80=99t happen all that often.=20
> =20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On May 4, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked] =
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF Side note: The 'goto' for leaky steering boxes in the =
Austin-Healey universe is John Deere 'Cornhead Grease;' available at =
many places online (and probably equivalent to spindle grease). A friend =
sent me a couple tubes, but I haven't tried it yet; getting it in the =
box is the hard part.
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Interesting. &nbsp;The Alpine is a&nbsp;<span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D"">recirculating ball unit, but the issues are the same. =
&nbsp;The OEM specification was 90wt gear oil, but that has a tendency =
to leak out after 50+ years.&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;I packed mine with =
regular grease many years ago and, while it still feels fine and I =
haven=E2=80=99t pulled the top cover off to check, I gather that because =
grease doesn=E2=80=99t flow, it will gradually get pushed away from the =
gears if I didn=E2=80=99t get the packing perfect. &nbsp;So, I will =
eventually replace it with what I recently purchased, and then with the =
corn head grease if that doesn=E2=80=99t work.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Here is a John Deere video discussing =
the grease. &nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7zNhli-J0Gk=
" class=3D"">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7zNhli-J0Gk</a> (I =
can=E2=80=99t help but think the Deere video is actually modeled on the =
old <span style=3D"color: =
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var(--yt-spec-text-primary)); font-family: Roboto, Arial, sans-serif; =
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var(--yt-navbar-title-font-size, inherit)); font-variant: =
var(--ytd-video-primary-info-renderer-title-font-variant, inherit);" =
class=3D"">Turbo Encabulator video.&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAc7G7xOG2Ag" =
class=3D"">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAc7G7xOG2Ag</a>)</div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">And, =
here is an exploded view of an Alpine gear. &nbsp;<div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><img apple-inline=3D"yes" =
id=3D"0AEFDD87-BFE3-4BA0-BAA0-0FFE0087E709" =
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5, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Jack Brooks &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: =
WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
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sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" =
class=3D"">Pat,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D"">My TR3 is a worm and =
peg.&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D"">The way it was explained to =
me=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..&nbsp; Cornhead grease is that it=E2=80=99s a =
semi-fluid, self-leveling grease thick enough to stay put, but will =
liquify easier than regular grease, so it=E2=80=99ll work =E2=80=9Cas an =
oil=E2=80=9D in steering boxes that specify oil, not grease.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D"">I couldn=E2=80=99t find the =
John Deere spec sheet quickly, but a number of the properties are =
highlighted here.<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Special-Purpose-Corn-Hea=
d-Gun-Grease-AN102562.html" style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193); =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">https://www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Special-Purpose-Corn-=
Head-Gun-Grease-AN102562.html</a><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D"">Jack<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; =
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Pat Horne &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<span =
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class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Jack Brooks &lt;<a =
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class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
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class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Shop-talk] Steering =
gear oil<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m not involved =
w/British cars, but old Japanese cars &amp; would like some information =
about the vehicles that y=E2=80=99all are considering using cornhead =
grease on. Are these steering boxes recirculating ball or worm &amp; peg =
boxes? The Datsun roadsters I=E2=80=99m involved with use both types =
depending on year.&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div =
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11:26 PM, Jack Brooks &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<s=
pan class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif; color: rgb(0, 32, =
96);" class=3D"">A lot of Triumph guys like Cornhead grease in the =
steering box too. &nbsp;Leaks are a lot less likely than the specified =
oils.</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
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class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D""><b =
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class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Shop-talk] Steering =
gear oil<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
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font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Thanks, =
Bob. I didn=E2=80=99t want to hijack the thread, so I changed the =
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topic.&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
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class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Cornhead grease was recently suggested =
on the Alpine forum, probably by someone who owns an Alpine and a =
Healey. In fact, I found the cotton picker oil while looking for =
cornhead grease. &nbsp;Besides being more readily available, at least if =
you have a Tractor Supply nearby, it is just slightly thinner than the =
grease, which<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><u =
class=3D"">might</u><span =
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the box but still thick enough not to leak out. I won=E2=80=99t know =
until I try it, and that might be a while. This is pretty low on my to =
do list right now; I just bought it because I was in the vicinity of a =
TS store, something that doesn=E2=80=99t happen all that =
often.&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
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class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
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leaky steering boxes in the Austin-Healey universe is John Deere =
'Cornhead Grease;' available at many places online (and probably =
equivalent to spindle grease). A friend sent me a couple tubes, but I =
haven't tried it yet; getting it in the box is the hard part.<o:p =
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 18:36:41 -0400

Having spent some time in the seat of a JD 9900, I can verify that
spindle grease is very runny, without being leakingly runny.  Also a
fascinating green color...kind of like minty toothpaste.  But
slippery.

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 4:30 PM Jack Brooks <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Pat,
>
>
>
> My TR3 is a worm and peg.
>
>
>
> The way it was explained to me……..  Cornhead grease is that it’s a semi-fluid, self-leveling grease thick enough to stay put, but will liquify easier than regular grease, so it’ll work “as an oil” in steering boxes that specify oil, not grease.
>
>
>
> I couldn’t find the John Deere spec sheet quickly, but a number of the properties are highlighted here.
> https://www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Special-Purpose-Corn-Head-Gun-Grease-AN102562.html
>
>
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
> I’m not involved w/British cars, but old Japanese cars & would like some information about the vehicles that y’all are considering using cornhead grease on. Are these steering boxes recirculating ball or worm & peg boxes? The Datsun roadsters I’m involved with use both types depending on year.
>
>
>
> Peace,
>
> Pat
>
> Pat Horne
>
> A lot of Triumph guys like Cornhead grease in the steering box too.  Leaks are a lot less likely than the specified oils.
>
>
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> Thanks, Bob. I didn’t want to hijack the thread, so I changed the subject line, just in case anyone else was interested in the topic.
>
>
>
> Cornhead grease was recently suggested on the Alpine forum, probably by someone who owns an Alpine and a Healey. In fact, I found the cotton picker oil while looking for cornhead grease.  Besides being more readily available, at least if you have a Tractor Supply nearby, it is just slightly thinner than the grease, which might make it easier to get in the box but still thick enough not to leak out. I won’t know until I try it, and that might be a while. This is pretty low on my to do list right now; I just bought it because I was in the vicinity of a TS store, something that doesn’t happen all that often.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>  Side note: The 'goto' for leaky steering boxes in the Austin-Healey universe is John Deere 'Cornhead Grease;' available at many places online (and probably equivalent to spindle grease). A friend sent me a couple tubes, but I haven't tried it yet; getting it in the box is the hard part.
>
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 21:31:39 -0700

My Healey 100's box is leaking profusely; has 1) anyone injected the CH 
Grease into a box with some 90W remaining? Does the CG Grease displace 
the oil and 2) anyone found a quick-and-easy way to get the grease in 
(mine's in regular grease gun tubes; just wondering if there's an easier 
way)?

Bob

On 5/5/2021 3:36 PM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:
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Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 07:47:50 -0400

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I don=E2=80=99t know if this will work for a Healey, but I drilled and =
tapped a hole in my steering box cover and installed a grease fitting.  =
It stuck out a bit on the inside and I ground that down so that it was =
flush and squirted some grease through to be sure it was clean.  I then =
packed as much grease in the box as I could, re-installed it and added =
more until it came out the original filler hole.

I can=E2=80=99t answer your question about mixing them, and am curious =
about the answer, too.

> On May 6, 2021, at 12:31 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> My Healey 100's box is leaking profusely; has 1) anyone injected the =
CH Grease into a box with some 90W remaining? Does the CG Grease =
displace the oil and 2) anyone found a quick-and-easy way to get the =
grease in (mine's in regular grease gun tubes; just wondering if there's =
an easier way)?
>>> The way it was explained to me=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..  Cornhead grease =
is that it=E2=80=99s a semi-fluid, self-leveling grease thick enough to =
stay put, but will liquify easier than regular grease, so it=E2=80=99ll =
work =E2=80=9Cas an oil=E2=80=9D in steering boxes that specify oil, not =
grease.
ease-AN102562.html
>>> I=E2=80=99m not involved w/British cars, but old Japanese cars & =
would like some information about the vehicles that y=E2=80=99all are =
considering using cornhead grease on. Are these steering boxes =
recirculating ball or worm & peg boxes? The Datsun roadsters I=E2=80=99m =
involved with use both types depending on year.
>>>=20
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TS store, something that doesn=E2=80=99t happen all that often.
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
don=E2=80=99t know if this will work for a Healey, but I drilled and =
tapped a hole in my steering box cover and installed a grease fitting. =
&nbsp;It stuck out a bit on the inside and I ground that down so that it =
was flush and squirted some grease through to be sure it was clean. =
&nbsp;I then packed as much grease in the box as I could, re-installed =
it and added more until it came out the original filler hole.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I can=E2=80=99t answer =
your question about mixing them, and am curious about the answer, =
too.<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On May 6, 2021, at 12:31 AM, Bob Spidell =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
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text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">My Healey 100's box is leaking profusely; has 1) anyone =
injected the CH Grease into a box with some 90W remaining? Does the CG =
Grease displace the oil and 2) anyone found a quick-and-easy way to get =
the grease in (mine's in regular grease gun tubes; just wondering if =
there's an easier way)?</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
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0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; =
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text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">On 5/5/2021 3:36 PM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
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class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
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widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">Having =
spent some time in the seat of a JD 9900, I can verify that<br =
class=3D"">spindle grease is very runny, without being leakingly runny. =
&nbsp;Also a<br class=3D"">fascinating green color...kind of like minty =
toothpaste. &nbsp;But<br class=3D"">slippery.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Jeff Scarbrough<br class=3D"">Corrosion Acres, Ga.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 4:30 PM Jack Brooks =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Pat,<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">My TR3 is a worm and peg.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The way it was explained to =
me=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.. &nbsp;Cornhead grease is that it=E2=80=99s a =
semi-fluid, self-leveling grease thick enough to stay put, but will =
liquify easier than regular grease, so it=E2=80=99ll work =E2=80=9Cas an =
oil=E2=80=9D in steering boxes that specify oil, not grease.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I couldn=E2=80=99t=
 find the John Deere spec sheet quickly, but a number of the properties =
are highlighted here.<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Special-Purpose-Corn-Hea=
d-Gun-Grease-AN102562.html" =
class=3D"">https://www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Special-Purpose-Corn-=
Head-Gun-Grease-AN102562.html</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Jack<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">From: Pat Horne =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 =
9:32 AM<br class=3D"">To: Jack Brooks &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Cc: [email-masked]<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: =
[Shop-talk] Steering gear oil<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m not involved w/British cars, but =
old Japanese cars &amp; would like some information about the vehicles =
that y=E2=80=99all are considering using cornhead grease on. Are these =
steering boxes recirculating ball or worm &amp; peg boxes? The Datsun =
roadsters I=E2=80=99m involved with use both types depending on year.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Peace,<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Pat<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Pat Horne<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">We support Habitat for Humanity<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On =
May 4, 2021, at 11:26 PM, Jack Brooks &lt;[email-masked]&gt; =
wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">A lot of Triumph guys like Cornhead grease in the steering =
box too. &nbsp;Leaks are a lot less likely than the specified oils.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Jack<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">From: Shop-talk =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; On Behalf Of Jim Stone<br =
class=3D"">Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 10:37 AM<br class=3D"">To: Bob =
Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: =
[email-masked]<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Steering =
gear oil<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Thanks, Bob. I didn=E2=80=99t want to hijack the thread, so I =
changed the subject line, just in case anyone else was interested in the =
topic.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Cornhead=
 grease was recently suggested on the Alpine forum, probably by someone =
who owns an Alpine and a Healey. In fact, I found the cotton picker oil =
while looking for cornhead grease. &nbsp;Besides being more readily =
available, at least if you have a Tractor Supply nearby, it is just =
slightly thinner than the grease, which might make it easier to get in =
the box but still thick enough not to leak out. I won=E2=80=99t know =
until I try it, and that might be a while. This is pretty low on my to =
do list right now; I just bought it because I was in the vicinity of a =
TS store, something that doesn=E2=80=99t happen all that often.<br =
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 Side note: The 'goto' for leaky steering boxes in the Austin-Healey =
universe is John Deere 'Cornhead Grease;' available at many places =
online (and probably equivalent to spindle grease). A friend sent me a =
couple tubes, but I haven't tried it yet; getting it in the box is the =
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