Subject: [Shop-talk] Square D QO breaker Box

From: Jack Brooks <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 23:37:52 +0000

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I am building a Sprinter van into an RV and have a question about the 120v =
breaker box (SquareD QO24L70RBCP).  It is a 2-Space, 4-Circuit load center.=
  My concern is that while the Neutral bar has four positions on a common b=
ar, the two breaker connections are independent, without a common bar betwe=
en the two.  This surprised the heck out of me. My inverter (Victron 24/70/=
3000)  has a single AC output with a "cage clamp" terminal, not a screw dow=
n or stud terminal which would be easy. I can run a 6 or 8 AWG from the inv=
erter to the Breaker box, but it needs to go to the two separate screw down=
 terminals.  Physically, I believe I can run an 8 AWG wire into one breaker=
, and then back out to the other breaker, but I'm concerned about whether t=
his is a code violation.

Any thoughts on how I can run wiring to each of the two breakers safely and=
 within code?  Yes, mobile is not really covered by NEC, but it's not cover=
ed all that well by ABYC either. I'd just like to be as close to NEC as pos=
sible.

Last resort - is anyone familiar with a small breaker box with standard bus=
bars for the breakers to snap into?

Thanks in advance,

Jack

Breaker Box - https://www.homedepot.com/p/Square-D-QO-70-Amp-2-Space-4-Circ=
uit-Outdoor-Main-Lug-Load-Center-with-Cover-QO24L70RBCP/100010356

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif">I am building a Sprinter van into an RV and have=
 a question about the 120v breaker box (SquareD QO24L70RBCP).&nbsp; It is a=
 2-Space, 4-Circuit load center.&nbsp; My concern is that
 while the Neutral bar has four positions on a common bar, the two breaker =
connections are independent, without a common bar between the two.&nbsp; Th=
is surprised the heck out of me. My inverter (Victron 24/70/3000) &nbsp;has=
 a single AC output with a &#8220;cage clamp&#8221; terminal,
 not a screw down or stud terminal which would be easy. I can run a 6 or 8 =
AWG from the inverter to the Breaker box, but it needs to go to the two sep=
arate screw down terminals.&nbsp; Physically, I believe I can run an 8 AWG =
wire into one breaker, and then back
 out to the other breaker, but I&#8217;m concerned about whether this is a =
code violation.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif">Any thoughts on how I can run wiring to each of =
the two breakers safely and within code?&nbsp; Yes, mobile is not really co=
vered by NEC, but it&#8217;s not covered all that well by
 ABYC either. I&#8217;d just like to be as close to NEC as possible. <o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif">Last resort &#8211; is anyone familiar with a sm=
all breaker box with standard busbars for the breakers to snap into?<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
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mes New Roman&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif">Thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mes New Roman&quot;,serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif">Jack<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif">Breaker Box -
<a href=3D"https://www.homedepot.com/p/Square-D-QO-70-Amp-2-Space-4-Circuit=
-Outdoor-Main-Lug-Load-Center-with-Cover-QO24L70RBCP/100010356">
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Square-D-QO-70-Amp-2-Space-4-Circuit-Outdoor-Ma=
in-Lug-Load-Center-with-Cover-QO24L70RBCP/100010356</a><o:p></o:p></span></=
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