Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] clean used engine before use?

From: Thomas Coradeschi <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 13:36:35 -0400

True enough, Steve. At least you won’t introduce anything more!

Tom Coradeschi
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> On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Steven Trovato <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Tom,
> 
> My plan is to do pretty much what you describe.  Was just considering some sort of cleaning first.  You want to stuff rags in the intake before using compressed air, but it has been wide open for a year.  That will keep debris from entering, but I have no idea what might have entered already.
> 
> -Steve T.
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> At 11:12 AM 4/2/2021, Thomas Coradeschi wrote:
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64Steve: I am firmly of the belief that the only thing which should go near the valve train or the crankcase is motor oil. For an engine that's been sitting, making sure you have lubrication is key.
>> 
>> My Dad was a bona-fide MG guy for years - used one of his (the '78, I think) as a daily driver for quite some time in the late 80s and was very active in our local MG club. Based on what I've seen, those pushrod motors are pretty much the textbook definition of mechanically bulletproof. Electrics of the era Errrr, not so much.
>> 
>> I'd suggest that you do the following.
>> 
>> Blow off any loose crud you see with compressed air (stuff rags in the intake ports first). Re-install the valve cover, pan, manifolds, etc and get the motor in the car and hooked up to cooling, electrical, fuel, etc.
>> 
>> Before you fire it, pull the plugs and disable the ignition (pull the hot wire off the coil or ground its output), then spin the engine over until you have positive indication of oil pressure - either on a gage, if it has one, or by seeing the idiot light go out.
>> 
>> Once that's done, reinstall the plugs, hook up the ignition and fire it up, again observing whatever indicators you have relative to oil pressure.
>> 
>> My $0.02, and worth what you paid for it:-)
>> 
>> Tom Coradeschi
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From: Richard George <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 11:17:46 -0700

Thinking about it, you could also stick a camera/bore sight into the 
exposed ports and see if there's anything disturbing in there as well.

Best,

rkg

(Richard George)

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"Thinking about it, you could also stick a camera/bore sight into the
exposed ports and see if there's anything disturbing in there as well."

Yes, this.....just to be certain Mickey didn't end up in there anyway.....

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Best,

rkg

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rkg<br>
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And down the spark plug holes.  I remember when I first got my Bentley T1,
I was going over everything, and opened the bag with the jack and
wheel/tire tools and it was FULL of acorns.  Those rodents are devious!

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<div dir=3D"auto">And down the spark plug holes.=C2=A0 I remember when I fi=
rst got my Bentley T1, I was going over everything, and opened the bag with=
 the jack and wheel/tire tools and it was FULL of acorns.=C2=A0 Those roden=
ts are devious!</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:05 PM Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
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 could also stick a camera/bore sight into the</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,&quot;Segoe UI Web (West Eu=
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&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:=
rgb(255,255,255);display:inline!important">exposed ports and see
 if there&#39;s anything disturbing in there as well.&quot;</span></div>
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Best,<br>
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rkg<br>
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From: Steven Trovato <[email-masked]> mail.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 20:31:08 -0400

What are you guys using to remove studs?  I see various tools that 
have teeth that dig into the stud.  That is OK when you are replacing 
them, but sometimes you don't want them damaged.  I usually just lock 
two nuts together and remove that way.  I see some stud removal sets 
that essentially do the same thing.  Two parts lock together.  I'm 
not seeing the advantage to this.  Nuts are a lot cheaper.  Am I 
missing something?

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Two nuts (obviously locked together), your favorite penetrant and heat if p=
ossible without doing damage.

My less than .02

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them, but sometimes you don't want them damaged.&nbsp; I usually just lock =
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that essentially do the same thing.&nbsp; Two parts lock together.&nbsp; I'=
m <br>
not seeing the advantage to this.&nbsp; Nuts are a lot cheaper.&nbsp; Am I =
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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 19:49:07 -0500

2 nuts work for me too. A dose of Kroil & time don’t hurt either. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
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What are you guys using to remove studs?  I see various tools that have teeth that dig into the stud.  That is OK when you are replacing them, but sometimes you don't want them damaged.  I usually just lock two nuts together and remove that way.  I see some stud removal sets that essentially do the same thing.  Two parts lock together.  I'm not seeing the advantage to this.  Nuts are a lot cheaper.  Am I missing something?

-Steve T.

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Same here, as long as you have enough thread showing to double-nut it.

Been known to braze the nut on if the stud is too short to double-nut...

best,

doug

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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 21:17:44 -0400

Thanks everyone.  It looks like you are all doing the same thing I 
do.  I thought maybe you guys would give me an excuse to buy a new 
tool.  Apparently not this time.

-Steve T.

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From: Donald H Locker <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 05:09:41 -0400

The reason two nuts don't always work is because the flats don't always
line up, and if you apply torque on the top nut only, it can release the
double-nutting rather than backing the stud out. Something like Lok-Tite
on the top nut or between the two nuts can help.

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On 2021-04-07 8:31 p.m., Steven Trovato wrote:
> What are you guys using to remove studs?  I see various tools that have
> teeth that dig into the stud.  That is OK when you are replacing them,
> but sometimes you don't want them damaged.  I usually just lock two nuts
> together and remove that way.  I see some stud removal sets that
> essentially do the same thing.  Two parts lock together.  I'm not seeing
> the advantage to this.  Nuts are a lot cheaper.  Am I missing something?
> 
> -Steve T.
> 
> 

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I think whatever you use, you risk damage to the stud if you're needing bru=
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When brute force becomes the only option, I will try and grip the stud in =
the vice and turn the whatever it's screwed into - or even when I had a spa=
re 3" vice - use the vice as a hand tool!
Neil

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n when I had a spare 3" vice - use the vice as a hand tool!<br>Neil<br><br>=
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A lot to be said for penetrant and time. Mostly time.

Mike

> What are you guys using to remove studs?  I see various tools that have teeth that dig into the stud.  That is OK when you are replacing them, but sometimes you don't want them damaged.  I usually…

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      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">2 nuts work for me too. A dose of Kroil &amp; time don’t hurt either. 

Peace,
Pat

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From: David Scheidt <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 14:14:40 -0500

> not seeing the advantage to this.  Nuts are a lot cheaper.  Am I

Most of the tools will work on a stud that's shorter than two nuts.
They're also easier to use on a stud where you don't have room to get
a wrench on the bottom nut.  you can also use them with an impact gun,
which saves time.  If a flat-rate mechanic is removing a stud, it's
not going back in.

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From: Steven Trovato <[email-masked]> mail.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2021 15:43:29 -0400

Yes, the more aggressive tools that dig into the stud will often work 
on a shorter stud.  The other style seems to need the same amount of 
free stud as two nuts.  Sure, a mechanic can save time by just 
replacing the stud, if you have the replacement.  I remember 
replacing a water pump where the replacement did not come with the 
necessary studs.  Removing and reusing the old ones was definitely 
faster than another trip to the store.

-Steve T.

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From: Steve Dillen <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 19:42:06 -0700

I'm afraid that most often I end up removing studs as "dust", having 
first tried heat/penetrating oil, then a pair of nuts, then my cam-lock 
type stud remover...then moving on to the inevitable cutoff 
wheel/center-punch/progressively larger drill 
bit/dental-pick-to-pull-out-the-thread-remnants approach.

Steve

On 2021-04-07 5:31 p.m., Steven Trovato wrote:
> that essentially do the same thing.  Two parts lock together.  I'm not 
> seeing the advantage to this.  Nuts are a lot cheaper.  Am I missing 
> something?
>
> -Steve T.
>
>

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