Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking for solution to vehicle camera problem

From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 08:18:00 -0500

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Moose,=20

What about adding a battery on the forks to power the camera with a contact p=
air on the loader arm & fork to charge the battery when the forks are in the=
ir normal location? I=E2=80=99m thinking about a plate on one side & a slidi=
ng spring contact on the other that wipes onto the plate.  Should only need o=
ne contact & use the framework for ground.=20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Mar 24, 2021, at 8:01 AM, [email-masked] wrote:

=EF=BB=BFOK, here is a weird one.=20

Ideally, I need a vehicle backup camera, with a COMPLETELY wireless camera (=
meaning it's battery operated.)=20

Here is the application.  I have a front end loader with a rotating set of f=
orks.  I need a camera that sits to the side of this so I can see the forks a=
s I load the pallets on.=20

I've been using a wired camera, but I need to have so much slack in the cabl=
e between the loader and the forks as they move in multiple directions from t=
he mounting point.

Here is a video of the forks in action.=20
https://youtu.be/6FRdkdKdjyY=20

Most battery operated cameras are meant for home based systems.  =20

Any ideas?=20

Any other solutions?=20

Thanks.=20

Moose

"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational be=
ing are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo E=
merson=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Moose,&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>=
What about adding a battery on the forks to power the camera with a contact p=
air on the loader arm &amp; fork to charge the battery when the forks are in=
 their normal location? I=E2=80=99m thinking about a plate on one side &amp;=
 a sliding spring contact on the other that wipes onto the plate. &nbsp;Shou=
ld only need one contact &amp; use the framework for ground.&nbsp;</div><div=
><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat</div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbs=
p;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br>On Mar 24, 2021, at 8:01 AM, [email-masked] wrote:<br><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">OK, here is a=
 weird one.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Ideally, I need a vehicle backup ca=
mera,
with a COMPLETELY wireless camera (meaning it's battery operated.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Here is the application. &nbsp;I ha=
ve
a front end loader with a rotating set of forks. &nbsp;I need a camera
that sits to the side of this so I can see the forks as I load the pallets
on.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I've been using a wired camera, but=

I need to have so much slack in the cable between the loader and the forks
as they move in multiple directions from the mounting point.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Here is a video of the forks in action.</font>
<br><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/6FRdkdKdjyY" target=3D"_blank"><font size=3D=
"2" color=3D"blue" face=3D"sans-serif">https://youtu.be/6FRdkdKdjyY</font></=
a><font size=3D"3">
</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Most battery operated cameras are m=
eant
for home based systems. &nbsp;</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Any ideas?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Any other solutions?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose<br>
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Pat comes up with a great solution. Battery on the forks!

Pat, it's so simple I can't believe I totally overlooked that.

Thanks!

"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational 
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph 
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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Pat comes up with a great solution. Battery
on the forks!</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Pat, it's so simple I can't believe
I totally overlooked that.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks!</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
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being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory.&quot; Ralph
Waldo Emerson <br>
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From: John Innis <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 08:22:16 -0500

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Try this?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08V5CDRBC/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_XBXW06YGWAQFMGA2S7JV
battery operated, view on your android or iPhone.  I have a similar (older)
model I used on my trailer for backing into the barn and tight spots.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 8:01 AM <[email-masked]> wrote:

> OK, here is a weird one.
>
> Ideally, I need a vehicle backup camera, with a COMPLETELY wireless camera
> (meaning it's battery operated.)
>
> Here is the application.  I have a front end loader with a rotating set of
> forks.  I need a camera that sits to the side of this so I can see the
> forks as I load the pallets on.
>
> I've been using a wired camera, but I need to have so much slack in the
> cable between the loader and the forks as they move in multiple directions
> from the mounting point.
>
> Here is a video of the forks in action.
> https://youtu.be/6FRdkdKdjyY
>
> Most battery operated cameras are meant for home based systems.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Any other solutions?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Moose
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Try this?=C2=A0=20
<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08V5CDRBC/ref=3Dcm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_XBXW=
06YGWAQFMGA2S7JV">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08V5CDRBC/ref=3Dcm_sw_em_r_mt_=
dp_XBXW06YGWAQFMGA2S7JV</a> <br></div><div>battery operated, view on your a=
ndroid or iPhone.=C2=A0 I have a similar (older) model I used on my trailer=
 for backing into the barn and tight spots. <br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 24, 2021=
 at 8:01 AM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font=
 size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">OK, here is a weird one.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Ideally, I need a vehicle backup c=
amera,
with a COMPLETELY wireless camera (meaning it&#39;s battery operated.)</fon=
t>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Here is the application.=C2=A0 I h=
ave
a front end loader with a rotating set of forks.=C2=A0 I need a camera
that sits to the side of this so I can see the forks as I load the pallets
on.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I&#39;ve been using a wired camera=
, but
I need to have so much slack in the cable between the loader and the forks
as they move in multiple directions from the mounting point.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Here is a video of the forks in action.</font>
<br><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/6FRdkdKdjyY" target=3D"_blank"><font size=
=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif" color=3D"blue">https://youtu.be/6FRdkdKdjyY</fon=
t></a><font size=3D"3">
</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Most battery operated cameras are =
meant
for home based systems. =C2=A0</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Any ideas?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Any other solutions?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose<br>
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 14:09:18 -0400

That says it's WiFi connected.  That could be a limitation if you are
far from your WAP.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 9:25 AM John Innis <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Try this?  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08V5CDRBC/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_XBXW06YGWAQFMGA2S7JV
> battery operated, view on your android or iPhone.  I have a similar (older) model I used on my trailer for backing into the barn and tight spots.
>
>> Ideally, I need a vehicle backup camera, with a COMPLETELY wireless camera (meaning it's battery operated.)
>>
>> Here is the application.  I have a front end loader with a rotating set of forks.  I need a camera that sits to the side of this so I can see the forks as I load the pallets on.
>>
>> I've been using a wired camera, but I need to have so much slack in the cable between the loader and the forks as they move in multiple directions from the mounting point.
>>
>> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson
>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
>>
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From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 14:52:19 -0400

The unit in the link indicates it creates its own Wi-Fi network: 
     "WiFi Connection  Super easy to use with your phone, the transmitter
inside the camera creates a WiFi network that will work anywhere,
pre-existing WiFi or internet connection not         required."

It also claims to have a 100 Ft range, so hopefully all the metal on and
around the machine would not prevent it from working.

As to power, if you need the camera to only work occasionally [as opposed to
all day, every day] - I would think you could just use a 12v battery pack:
- this one uses 8 x AA batteries and has a wired on/off switch:
https://smile.amazon.com/CO-RODE-Battery-Holder-Wired-Switch/dp/B00VE7HBMS
- this one is a rechargeable lithium ion pack:
https://smile.amazon.com/ABENIC-1800mAh-Rechargeable-Protable-Lithium/dp/B07
53CP286/

And I see a bunch of others...
----------------
All the best,

Al Fuller

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking for solution to vehicle camera problem

That says it's WiFi connected.  That could be a limitation if you are far
from your WAP.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 9:25 AM John Innis <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Try this?  
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08V5CDRBC/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_XBXW06YGWAQF
> MGA2S7JV battery operated, view on your android or iPhone.  I have a 
> similar (older) model I used on my trailer for backing into the barn and
tight spots.
>> Here is the application.  I have a front end loader with a rotating set
of forks.  I need a camera that sits to the side of this so I can see the
forks as I load the pallets on.
>> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a 
>> rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your 
>> territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson -Who is John 
>> Galt?_______________________________________________
>>
>> [email-masked]
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