Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Replacement florescent bulbs F42T6

From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 08:49:14 -0600

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Paul, FYI, the problem with fluorescents not lighting in first try isn=E2=80=
=99t always a defective lamp or ballast. Sometimes the fixture isn=E2=80=99t=
 grounded, which can cause that problem.=20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Feb 6, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Paul Parkanzky <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
I've long since tossed the receipt and burned the box but I'm pretty sure th=
ese are them:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-Color-Correct-Technology-32-Watt-EQ-48-in-Daylig=
ht-Linear-LED-Tube-Light-Bulb-2-Pack/5000197453

The laundry/utility room in my cottage has a 4' fluorescent fixture and when=
 I bought the place that light really struggled to come on (I'd have to togg=
le the switch five or six times to get it to work). I was at Lowe's with a b=
uddy who was helping me with little projects around the place and I had a ne=
w fixture on my shopping list. I was looking at a bunch and didn't really li=
ke what they had. I told him I'd just buy something from Amazon when he poin=
ted these out and I decided to give them a shot. I honestly thought I'd have=
 to return them but it really was as easy as putting them in and they worked=
.

I have a bunch of 4' fluorescent fixtures in my barn. I  bought a bunch of 4=
' LED fixtures and I was in the process of swapping them out but now I'm def=
initely getting these bulbs where there are still existing fixtures. I feel s=
tupid for all the fixtures I've thrown out over the past few years!

-Paul

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 7:38 AM Scott Hall <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
> Wait a minute--where'd you get those bulbs?
>=20
> I was literally about to send an email to the list about the failing fixtu=
res in my garage. New tubes didn't fix the problem, I was about to replace t=
he whole fixture. =20
>=20
> Scott
>=20
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2021, 6:20 AM Paul Parkanzky <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> I bought LED tubes from Lowe=E2=80=99s to replace a couple of 4=E2=80=99 f=
luorescent lights in an old fixture in my cottage. I was skeptical and assum=
ed I=E2=80=99d be taking them back and buying a new LED fixture but I put th=
em in and they worked great. These even had a switch on the end to choose th=
e color temperature.
>>=20
>> No idea if that means Eric will have the same experience with these.
>>=20
>> -Paul
>>=20
>>> On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BF re: "They say this is a direct replacement"
>>>=20
>>> Probably not. NOTE: "Ballast Required!"  I re-wired some old-school fluo=
rescent fixtures for LED 'tubes,' and had to replace the old ballasts (purch=
ased from Lowe's @ about $20ea). I hate ballasts, I hope the solid state one=
s last longer than the analog. Sometimes, it's cheaper to buy a whole new fi=
xture, with ballast, than buy a ballast and install it (if you count your ti=
me as a cost).
>>>=20
>>> TL;DR: I don't think analog ballasts work with LEDs, but I've not tried i=
t.
>>>=20
>>> Bob
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> On 2/5/2021 8:28 PM, Paul Parkanzky wrote:
>>>> They say this is a direct replacement:
>>>>=20
>>>> NYLL - (Pack of 2) Single Pin FA8 Base 42 Inch Plug & Play LED Tube - T=
6 LED Directly Relamp 25W 42" Fluorescent Bulb F42T6 (Without Rewiring or Mo=
dification) - Ballast Required! (Daylight (5000K)) https://smile.amazon.com/=
dp/B088FSTPX4/ref=3Dcm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_J3J63CZD7TMEYDHGW8E8?psc=3D1
>>>>=20
>>>> $60 plus shipping a pair isn=E2=80=99t exactly cheap, but it feels chea=
p compared to $2400+...
>>>>=20
>>>> -Paul
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:15 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> =EF=BB=BFOk, this is a literal 'shop talk' problem, as this bulb is in=
 a showcase in my shop (antique and collectables shop)  8>)  I hope there ar=
e no problems posting it here.  But I know there is better knowledge here th=
an me.=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> So, this showcase has a florescent light bulb F42T6.  (42" and T6 diam=
eter.)  Which is a weird size length and very narrow, so I can't get a bigge=
r diameter bulb.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Now, this bulb seems to only be available by price gougers, (Chosen Su=
pply has them for a mere $2,443.92.)  =20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Since this is in a active store and I can't easily remove the display c=
ase to modify it to fit something else, is there any other alternative for m=
e?=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> What I was thinking is they may be a LED replacement bulb that will fi=
t or something?  Anyone know of such a replacement?  Or a quick and easy dro=
p in replacement mount?=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Also, I may be closing the store in the next 6 months, so I don't want=
 to dump tons of cash into this.=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> BTW, if any of you are in NJ and check it out and see something you li=
ke in there, call me (number is on the wall) and it's yours for free! (I nee=
d to move inventory!)=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks.=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Paul, FYI, the problem with fluorescents no=
t lighting in first try isn=E2=80=99t always a defective lamp or ballast. So=
metimes the fixture isn=E2=80=99t grounded, which can cause that problem.&nb=
sp;<br><br><br>Peace,<div>Pat</div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;=
<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br>On Feb 6, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Paul Parkanzky &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">I've long s=
ince tossed the receipt and burned the box but I'm pretty sure these are the=
m:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-Color-Correct-T=
echnology-32-Watt-EQ-48-in-Daylight-Linear-LED-Tube-Light-Bulb-2-Pack/500019=
7453">https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-Color-Correct-Technology-32-Watt-EQ-48-in-=
Daylight-Linear-LED-Tube-Light-Bulb-2-Pack/5000197453</a><br></div><div><br>=
</div><div>The laundry/utility room in my cottage has a 4' fluorescent fixtu=
re and when I bought the place that light really struggled to come on (I'd h=
ave to toggle the switch five or six times to get it to work). I was at Lowe=
's with a buddy who was helping me with little projects around the place and=
 I had a new fixture on my shopping list. I was looking at a bunch and didn'=
t really like what they had. I told him I'd just buy something from Amazon w=
hen he pointed these out and I decided to give them a shot. I honestly thoug=
ht I'd have to return them but it really was as easy as putting them in and t=
hey worked.</div><div><br></div><div>I have a bunch of 4' fluorescent fixtur=
es in my barn. I&nbsp; bought a bunch of 4' LED fixtures and I was in the pr=
ocess of swapping them out but now I'm definitely getting these bulbs where t=
here are still existing fixtures. I feel stupid for all the fixtures I've th=
rown out over the past few years!</div><div><br></div><div>-Paul</div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat,=
 Feb 6, 2021 at 7:38 AM Scott Hall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:scott.hall.personal=
@gmail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Wait a minute--wher=
e'd you get those bulbs?<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I was l=
iterally about to send an email to the list about the failing fixtures in my=
 garage. New tubes didn't fix the&nbsp;problem, I was about to replace the w=
hole fixture.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>Scott</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Sat, Feb 6, 2021, 6:20 AM Paul Parkanzky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">I=
 bought LED tubes from Lowe=E2=80=99s to replace a couple of 4=E2=80=99 fluo=
rescent lights in an old fixture in my cottage. I was skeptical and assumed I=
=E2=80=99d be taking them back and buying a new LED fixture but I put them i=
n and they worked great. These even had a switch on the end to choose the co=
lor temperature.<div><br></div><div>No idea if that means Eric will have the=
 same experience with these.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">-Paul</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Bob Spidell &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
 =20
   =20
 =20
 =20
    re: "They say this is a direct replacement"<br>
    <br>
    <i>Probably</i> not. NOTE: "Ballast Required!"&nbsp; I re-wired some
    old-school fluorescent fixtures for LED 'tubes,' and had to replace
    the old ballasts (purchased from Lowe's @ about $20ea). I hate
    ballasts, I hope the solid state ones last longer than the analog.
    Sometimes, it's cheaper to buy a whole new fixture, with ballast,
    than buy a ballast and install it (if you count your time as a
    cost).<br>
    <br>
    TL;DR: I don't think analog ballasts work with LEDs, but I've not
    tried it.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    &nbsp;<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 2/5/2021 8:28 PM, Paul Parkanzky
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      They say this is a direct replacement:
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>NYLL - (Pack of 2) Single Pin FA8 Base 42 Inch Plug &amp;
        Play LED Tube - T6 LED Directly Relamp 25W 42" Fluorescent Bulb
        F42T6 (Without Rewiring or Modification) - Ballast Required!
        (Daylight (5000K))
<a href=3D"https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B088FSTPX4/ref=3Dcm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_f=
abc_J3J63CZD7TMEYDHGW8E8?psc=3D1" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https=
://smile.amazon.com/dp/B088FSTPX4/ref=3Dcm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_J3J63CZD7TME=
YDHGW8E8?psc=3D1</a></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>$60 plus shipping a pair isn=E2=80=99t exactly cheap, but it feel=
s
        cheap compared to $2400+...<br>
        <br>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">-Paul</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
          <blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:15 PM,
            <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br>
            <br>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <blockquote type=3D"cite">
          <div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Ok,=
 this is a
              literal 'shop talk' problem,
              as this bulb is in a showcase in my shop (antique and
              collectables shop)
              &nbsp;8&gt;) &nbsp;I hope there are no problems posting it her=
e.
              &nbsp;But
              I know there is better knowledge here than me.</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So, this showcase has a
              florescent light
              bulb F42T6. &nbsp;(42" and T6 diameter.) &nbsp;Which is a weir=
d size
              length and very narrow, so I can't get a bigger diameter
              bulb.</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Now, this bulb seems to
              only be available
              by price gougers, (Chosen Supply has them for a mere
              $2,443.92.) &nbsp;</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Since this is in a active
              store and
              I can't easily remove the display case to modify it to fit
              something else,
              is there any other alternative for me?</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">What I was thinking is they=

              may be a
              LED replacement bulb that will fit or something?&nbsp; Anyone
              know of such
              a replacement?&nbsp; Or a quick and easy drop in replacement
              mount?</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Also, I may be closing the
              store in
              the next 6 months, so I don't want to dump tons of cash
              into this.</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">BTW, if any of you are in
              NJ and check
              it out and see something you like in there, call me
              (number is on the wall)
              and it's yours for free! (I need to move inventory!)</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks.</font>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
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This is a bit of a deviation from the OP, but related.=20

When rebuilding my shop after a fire I moved from four-lamp fluorescent fixt=
ures to LED units. I found Primelights.com that sold three-lamp LED, 48=E2=80=
=9D fixtures that put out more light than the old fixtures. And they were ch=
eap! $79 each, $75 for 10 or more. (The Bolt). These are basic lights but th=
ey have enclosed fixtures too. The fixtures are cheap but went up fine & I h=
aven=E2=80=99t had any problems with them.  Even though they are about 50 mi=
les from me, they shipped to me cheaply. Highly recommended.=20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20

=EF=BB=BF

-Paul

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">This is a bit of a deviation from the OP, b=
ut related.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>When rebuilding my shop after a fire I m=
oved from four-lamp fluorescent fixtures to LED units. I found Primelights.c=
om that sold three-lamp LED, 48=E2=80=9D fixtures that put out more light th=
an the old fixtures. And they were cheap! $79 each, $75 for 10 or more. (The=
 Bolt). These are basic lights but they have enclosed fixtures too. The fixt=
ures are cheap but went up fine &amp; I haven=E2=80=99t had any problems wit=
h them. &nbsp;Even though they are about 50 miles from me, they shipped to m=
e cheaply. Highly recommended.&nbsp;<br><br>Peace,</div><div>Pat</div><div><=
br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div=
><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Feb 6, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Paul P=
arkanzky &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">I've long since tossed the receipt and burned the box=
 but I'm pretty sure these are them:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://w=
ww.lowes.com/pd/GE-Color-Correct-Technology-32-Watt-EQ-48-in-Daylight-Linear=
-LED-Tube-Light-Bulb-2-Pack/5000197453">https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-Color-Co=
rrect-Technology-32-Watt-EQ-48-in-Daylight-Linear-LED-Tube-Light-Bulb-2-Pack=
/5000197453</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>The laundry/utility room in my c=
ottage has a 4' fluorescent fixture and when I bought the place that light r=
eally struggled to come on (I'd have to toggle the switch five or six times t=
o get it to work). I was at Lowe's with a buddy who was helping me with litt=
le projects around the place and I had a new fixture on my shopping list. I w=
as looking at a bunch and didn't really like what they had. I told him I'd j=
ust buy something from Amazon when he pointed these out and I decided to giv=
e them a shot. I honestly thought I'd have to return them but it really was a=
s easy as putting them in and they worked.</div><div><br></div><div>I have a=
 bunch of 4' fluorescent fixtures in my barn. I&nbsp; bought a bunch of 4' L=
ED fixtures and I was in the process of swapping them out but now I'm defini=
tely getting these bulbs where there are still existing fixtures. I feel stu=
pid for all the fixtures I've thrown out over the past few years!</div><div>=
<br></div><div>-Paul</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 7:38 AM Scott Hall &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div d=
ir=3D"auto">Wait a minute--where'd you get those bulbs?<div dir=3D"auto"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"auto">I was literally about to send an email to the list a=
bout the failing fixtures in my garage. New tubes didn't fix the&nbsp;proble=
m, I was about to replace the whole fixture.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Scott</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 6, 2021, 6:20 AM Paul P=
arkanzky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">parkan=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">I bought LED tubes from Lowe=E2=80=99s to repla=
ce a couple of 4=E2=80=99 fluorescent lights in an old fixture in my cottage=
. I was skeptical and assumed I=E2=80=99d be taking them back and buying a n=
ew LED fixture but I put them in and they worked great. These even had a swi=
tch on the end to choose the color temperature.<div><br></div><div>No idea i=
f that means Eric will have the same experience with these.<br><br><div dir=3D=
"ltr">-Paul</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 6, 20=
21, at 1:57 AM, Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D=
"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></=
blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
 =20
   =20
 =20
 =20
    re: "They say this is a direct replacement"<br>
    <br>
    <i>Probably</i> not. NOTE: "Ballast Required!"&nbsp; I re-wired some
    old-school fluorescent fixtures for LED 'tubes,' and had to replace
    the old ballasts (purchased from Lowe's @ about $20ea). I hate
    ballasts, I hope the solid state ones last longer than the analog.
    Sometimes, it's cheaper to buy a whole new fixture, with ballast,
    than buy a ballast and install it (if you count your time as a
    cost).<br>
    <br>
    TL;DR: I don't think analog ballasts work with LEDs, but I've not
    tried it.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    &nbsp;<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 2/5/2021 8:28 PM, Paul Parkanzky
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      They say this is a direct replacement:
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>NYLL - (Pack of 2) Single Pin FA8 Base 42 Inch Plug &amp;
        Play LED Tube - T6 LED Directly Relamp 25W 42" Fluorescent Bulb
        F42T6 (Without Rewiring or Modification) - Ballast Required!
        (Daylight (5000K))
<a href=3D"https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B088FSTPX4/ref=3Dcm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_f=
abc_J3J63CZD7TMEYDHGW8E8?psc=3D1" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https=
://smile.amazon.com/dp/B088FSTPX4/ref=3Dcm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_J3J63CZD7TME=
YDHGW8E8?psc=3D1</a></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>$60 plus shipping a pair isn=E2=80=99t exactly cheap, but it feel=
s
        cheap compared to $2400+...<br>
        <br>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">-Paul</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
          <blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:15 PM,
            <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br>
            <br>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <blockquote type=3D"cite">
          <div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Ok,=
 this is a
              literal 'shop talk' problem,
              as this bulb is in a showcase in my shop (antique and
              collectables shop)
              &nbsp;8&gt;) &nbsp;I hope there are no problems posting it her=
e.
              &nbsp;But
              I know there is better knowledge here than me.</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So, this showcase has a
              florescent light
              bulb F42T6. &nbsp;(42" and T6 diameter.) &nbsp;Which is a weir=
d size
              length and very narrow, so I can't get a bigger diameter
              bulb.</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Now, this bulb seems to
              only be available
              by price gougers, (Chosen Supply has them for a mere
              $2,443.92.) &nbsp;</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Since this is in a active
              store and
              I can't easily remove the display case to modify it to fit
              something else,
              is there any other alternative for me?</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">What I was thinking is they=

              may be a

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    </blockquote>
    <br>
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From: Paul Parkanzky <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 10:56:55 -0500

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I know, but I always change all the lights in my properties to LEDs. So it
was coming down one way or another.

-Paul

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 9:49 AM Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Paul, FYI, the problem with fluorescents not lighting in first try isn=E2=
=80=99t
> always a defective lamp or ballast. Sometimes the fixture isn=E2=80=99t g=
rounded,
> which can cause that problem.
>
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> I've long since tossed the receipt and burned the box but I'm pretty sure
> these are them:
>
>
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-Color-Correct-Technology-32-Watt-EQ-48-in-Day=
light-Linear-LED-Tube-Light-Bulb-2-Pack/5000197453
>
> The laundry/utility room in my cottage has a 4' fluorescent fixture and
> when I bought the place that light really struggled to come on (I'd have =
to
> toggle the switch five or six times to get it to work). I was at Lowe's
> with a buddy who was helping me with little projects around the place and=
 I
> had a new fixture on my shopping list. I was looking at a bunch and didn'=
t
> really like what they had. I told him I'd just buy something from Amazon
> when he pointed these out and I decided to give them a shot. I honestly
> thought I'd have to return them but it really was as easy as putting them
> in and they worked.
>
> I have a bunch of 4' fluorescent fixtures in my barn. I  bought a bunch o=
f
> 4' LED fixtures and I was in the process of swapping them out but now I'm
> definitely getting these bulbs where there are still existing fixtures. I
> feel stupid for all the fixtures I've thrown out over the past few years!
>
> -Paul
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 7:38 AM Scott Hall <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>> I was literally about to send an email to the list about the failing
>> fixtures in my garage. New tubes didn't fix the problem, I was about to
>> replace the whole fixture.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>> I bought LED tubes from Lowe=E2=80=99s to replace a couple of 4=E2=80=
=99 fluorescent
>>> lights in an old fixture in my cottage. I was skeptical and assumed I=
=E2=80=99d be
>>> taking them back and buying a new LED fixture but I put them in and the=
y
>>> worked great. These even had a switch on the end to choose the color
>>> temperature.
>>>
>>> *Probably* not. NOTE: "Ballast Required!"  I re-wired some old-school
>>> fluorescent fixtures for LED 'tubes,' and had to replace the old ballas=
ts
>>> (purchased from Lowe's @ about $20ea). I hate ballasts, I hope the soli=
d
>>> state ones last longer than the analog. Sometimes, it's cheaper to buy =
a
>>> whole new fixture, with ballast, than buy a ballast and install it (if =
you
>>> count your time as a cost).
>>>
>>> TL;DR: I don't think analog ballasts work with LEDs, but I've not tried
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
6
>>> LED Directly Relamp 25W 42" Fluorescent Bulb F42T6 (Without Rewiring or
>>> Modification) - Ballast Required! (Daylight (5000K))
>>> https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B088FSTPX4/ref=3Dcm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_J3=
J63CZD7TMEYDHGW8E8?psc=3D1
>>> $60 plus shipping a pair isn=E2=80=99t exactly cheap, but it feels chea=
p
>>> compared to $2400+...
>>> =EF=BB=BFOk, this is a literal 'shop talk' problem, as this bulb is in =
a
>>> showcase in my shop (antique and collectables shop)  8>)  I hope there =
are
>>> no problems posting it here.  But I know there is better knowledge here
>>> than me.
>>>
>>> So, this showcase has a florescent light bulb F42T6.  (42" and T6
>>> diameter.)  Which is a weird size length and very narrow, so I can't ge=
t a
>>> bigger diameter bulb.
>>>
>>> Now, this bulb seems to only be available by price gougers, (Chosen
>>> Supply has them for a mere $2,443.92.)
>>>
>>> Since this is in a active store and I can't easily remove the display
>>> case to modify it to fit something else, is there any other alternative=
 for
>>> me?
>>>
>>> What I was thinking is they may be a LED replacement bulb that will fit
>>> or something?  Anyone know of such a replacement?  Or a quick and easy =
drop
>>> in replacement mount?
>>>
>>> Also, I may be closing the store in the next 6 months, so I don't want
>>> to dump tons of cash into this.
>>>
>>> BTW, if any of you are in NJ and check it out and see something you lik=
e
>>> in there, call me (number is on the wall) and it's yours for free! (I n=
eed
>>> to move inventory!)
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a
>>> rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory=
."
>>> Ralph Waldo Emerson
>>> Unsubscribe/Manage:
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
>>>
>>>
archive
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I know, but I always change all the lights in my propertie=
s to LEDs. So it was coming down one way or=C2=A0another.<div><br></div><di=
v>-Paul</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 9:49 AM Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Paul, FYI, t=
he problem with fluorescents not lighting in first try isn=E2=80=99t always=
 a defective lamp or ballast. Sometimes the fixture isn=E2=80=99t grounded,=
 which can cause that problem.=C2=A0<br><br><br>Peace,<div>Pat</div><div><b=
r><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne=C2=A0<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div=
><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Feb 6, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Paul=
 Parkanzky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">par=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div=
 dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve long since tossed the receipt and burned the box but =
I&#39;m pretty sure these are them:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://w=
ww.lowes.com/pd/GE-Color-Correct-Technology-32-Watt-EQ-48-in-Daylight-Linea=
r-LED-Tube-Light-Bulb-2-Pack/5000197453" target=3D"_blank">https://www.lowe=
s.com/pd/GE-Color-Correct-Technology-32-Watt-EQ-48-in-Daylight-Linear-LED-T=
ube-Light-Bulb-2-Pack/5000197453</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>The laund=
ry/utility room in my cottage has a 4&#39; fluorescent fixture and when I b=
ought the place that light really struggled to come on (I&#39;d have to tog=
gle the switch five or six times to get it to work). I was at Lowe&#39;s wi=
th a buddy who was helping me with little projects around the place and I h=
ad a new fixture on my shopping list. I was looking at a bunch and didn&#39=
;t really like what they had. I told him I&#39;d just buy something from Am=
azon when he pointed these out and I decided to give them a shot. I honestl=
y thought I&#39;d have to return them but it really was as easy as putting =
them in and they worked.</div><div><br></div><div>I have a bunch of 4&#39; =
fluorescent fixtures in my barn. I=C2=A0 bought a bunch of 4&#39; LED fixtu=
res and I was in the process of swapping them out but now I&#39;m definitel=
y getting these bulbs where there are still existing fixtures. I feel stupi=
d for all the fixtures I&#39;ve thrown out over the past few years!</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>-Paul</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 7:38 AM Scott Hall &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">scott.h=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Wait a minute--where&#39;d you get =
those bulbs?<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I was literally a=
bout to send an email to the list about the failing fixtures in my garage. =
New tubes didn&#39;t fix the=C2=A0problem, I was about to replace the whole=
 fixture.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Sc=
ott</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Sat, Feb 6, 2021, 6:20 AM Paul Parkanzky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"=
>I bought LED tubes from Lowe=E2=80=99s to replace a couple of 4=E2=80=99 f=
luorescent lights in an old fixture in my cottage. I was skeptical and assu=
med I=E2=80=99d be taking them back and buying a new LED fixture but I put =
them in and they worked great. These even had a switch on the end to choose=
 the color temperature.<div><br></div><div>No idea if that means Eric will =
have the same experience with these.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">-Paul</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Bob=
 Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></di=
v><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
 =20
   =20
 =20
 =20
    re: &quot;They say this is a direct replacement&quot;<br>
    <br>
    <i>Probably</i> not. NOTE: &quot;Ballast Required!&quot;=C2=A0 I re-wir=
ed some
    old-school fluorescent fixtures for LED &#39;tubes,&#39; and had to rep=
lace
    the old ballasts (purchased from Lowe&#39;s @ about $20ea). I hate
    ballasts, I hope the solid state ones last longer than the analog.
    Sometimes, it&#39;s cheaper to buy a whole new fixture, with ballast,
    than buy a ballast and install it (if you count your time as a
    cost).<br>
    <br>
    TL;DR: I don&#39;t think analog ballasts work with LEDs, but I&#39;ve n=
ot
    tried it.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    =C2=A0<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 2/5/2021 8:28 PM, Paul Parkanzky
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      They say this is a direct replacement:
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>NYLL - (Pack of 2) Single Pin FA8 Base 42 Inch Plug &amp;
        Play LED Tube - T6 LED Directly Relamp 25W 42&quot; Fluorescent Bul=
b
        F42T6 (Without Rewiring or Modification) - Ballast Required!
        (Daylight (5000K))
<a href=3D"https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B088FSTPX4/ref=3Dcm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_=
fabc_J3J63CZD7TMEYDHGW8E8?psc=3D1" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://smile.amazon.com/dp/B088FSTPX4/ref=3Dcm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_J3J63CZD7=
TMEYDHGW8E8?psc=3D1</a></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>$60 plus shipping a pair isn=E2=80=99t exactly cheap, but it fee=
ls
        cheap compared to $2400+...<br>
        <br>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">-Paul</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
          <blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:15 PM,
            <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br>
            <br>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <blockquote type=3D"cite">
          <div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Ok=
, this is a
              literal &#39;shop talk&#39; problem,
              as this bulb is in a showcase in my shop (antique and
              collectables shop)
              =C2=A08&gt;) =C2=A0I hope there are no problems posting it he=
re.
              =C2=A0But
              I know there is better knowledge here than me.</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">So, this showcase has a
              florescent light
              bulb F42T6. =C2=A0(42&quot; and T6 diameter.) =C2=A0Which is =
a weird size
              length and very narrow, so I can&#39;t get a bigger diameter
              bulb.</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Now, this bulb seems to
              only be available
              by price gougers, (Chosen Supply has them for a mere
              $2,443.92.) =C2=A0</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Since this is in a active
              store and
              I can&#39;t easily remove the display case to modify it to fi=
t
              something else,
              is there any other alternative for me?</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">What I was thinking is the=
y
              may be a
              LED replacement bulb that will fit or something?=C2=A0 Anyone
              know of such
              a replacement?=C2=A0 Or a quick and easy drop in replacement
              mount?</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Also, I may be closing the
              store in
              the next 6 months, so I don&#39;t want to dump tons of cash
              into this.</font>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">BTW, if any of you are in
              NJ and check
              it out and see something you like in there, call me
              (number is on the wall)
              and it&#39;s yours for free! (I need to move inventory!)</fon=
t>
            <br>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Thanks.</font>
            <br>
            <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
              <br>
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              Waldo Emerson <br>
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