Subject: [Shop-talk] Tubes of chassis grease

From: John Mitchell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 21:48:48 -0500

Does anyone know of a brand of chassis lubricant that doesn't separate 
out after a few months?  I put a tube of valvoline synthetic in the gun 
over the summer and a large puddle of red lubricant ran out when I just 
went to use it again.  There's no way for me to use an entire tube at 
once.  Second question, does anyone have a good product to remove said 
puddle from my concrete floor?

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 21:16:43 -0600

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I've experienced separation from various greases, automotive and aviation, 
conventional and synthetic.  Shell, Mobil One, Kendall, etc. The one type 
that hasn't done that is moly grease, which I've mostly used since about 
1970.  Current version I'm using is Valvoline SynPower full synthetic, I 
think they recently changed the lineup and now it's called Gray.  Same 
stuff, same color, still no separation issues.

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<div dir=3D"auto">I've experienced separation from various greases, automot=
ive and aviation, conventional and synthetic.&nbsp; Shell, Mobil One, Kenda=
ll, etc. The one type that hasn't done that is moly grease, which I've most=
ly used since about 1970.&nbsp; Current version I'm using is Valvoline SynP=
ower full synthetic, I think they recently changed the lineup and now it's =
called Gray.&nbsp; Same stuff, same color, still no separation issues.</div=
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<div dir=3D"auto">On January 3, 2021 8:55:52 PM John Mitchell &lt;jmitch@sn=
et.net&gt; wrote:</div>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Does anyone know of a brand of chassis lubricant that doe=
sn't separate&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">out after a few months?&nbsp; I put a tube of valvoline s=
ynthetic in the gun&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">over the summer and a large puddle of red lubricant ran o=
ut when I just&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">went to use it again.&nbsp; There's no way for me to use =
an entire tube at&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">once.&nbsp; Second question, does anyone have a good prod=
uct to remove said&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">puddle from my concrete floor?</div>
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From: Benjamin Zwissler <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 22:26:45 -0500

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I've had the same problem with separation.  Good tip on the moly grease
from Valvoline

For cleaning up greasy messes I blot it up first as best I can with paper
towels then I use degreaser I buy at sam's club.  Purple color in gallon
bottles.  It's stronger than the purple power stuff the home repair places
sell.  Straight from the bottle it will cut grease and oil buildup quickly
and you can cut it with water for lighter degreasing.  It is hard on
aluminum and after rinsing steel parts will flash rust nearly immediately.

Ben

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<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ve had the same problem with separation.=C2=A0 Good=
 tip on the moly grease from Valvoline=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">For cleaning up greasy messes I blot it up first as best I c=
an with paper towels then I use degreaser I buy at sam&#39;s club.=C2=A0 Pu=
rple color in gallon bottles.=C2=A0 It&#39;s stronger than the purple power=
 stuff the home repair places sell.=C2=A0 Straight from the bottle it will =
cut grease and oil buildup quickly and you can cut it with water for lighte=
r degreasing.=C2=A0 It is hard on aluminum and after rinsing steel parts wi=
ll flash rust nearly immediately.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Ben</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 10:18 PM Karl Vacek &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
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px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

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<div dir=3D"auto">
<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ve experienced separation from various greases, aut=
omotive and aviation, conventional and synthetic.=C2=A0 Shell, Mobil One, K=
endall, etc. The one type that hasn&#39;t done that is moly grease, which I=
&#39;ve mostly used since about 1970.=C2=A0 Current version I&#39;m using i=
s Valvoline SynPower full synthetic, I think they recently changed the line=
up and now it&#39;s called Gray.=C2=A0 Same stuff, same color, still no sep=
aration issues.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>
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<div dir=3D"auto">On January 3, 2021 8:55:52 PM John Mitchell &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jmitch@sne=
t.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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x;border-left:1px solid #808080;padding-left:0.75ex">
<div dir=3D"auto">Does anyone know of a brand of chassis lubricant that doe=
sn&#39;t separate=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">out after a few months?=C2=A0 I put a tube of valvoline s=
ynthetic in the gun=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">over the summer and a large puddle of red lubricant ran o=
ut when I just=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">went to use it again.=C2=A0 There&#39;s no way for me to =
use an entire tube at=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">once.=C2=A0 Second question, does anyone have a good prod=
uct to remove said=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">puddle from my concrete floor?</div>
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From: Eric Russell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 23:22:05 -0500

On 1/3/2021 9:48 PM, John Mitchell wrote:

> out after a few months?

Is it very hot in your garage? If so, is there someplace cooler you can 
store it?

>  Second question, does anyone have a good product to remove said 

I spray grease/oil stains on concrete (not asphalt) with brake clean or 
pour some lacquer thinner on them then cover with sawdust or kitty 
litter. Let the sawdust or kitty litter soak up the liquid then sweep it 
up and dispose.

Eric Russell
Mebane, NC

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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 06:39:41 -0500

On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 9:56 PM John Mitchell <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>  There's no way for me to use an entire tube at
> once.

May not help you, but I bought a mini-grease gun that uses 3 ounce
cartridges.  If I do have one get squidgy, I'm not wasting as much.  I
don't own a tractor or a combine, so I don't need anything bigger.
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 08:49:26 -0800

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I've had tubes of this stuff sitting on the shelf for years with no 
apparent separation:

*https://tinyurl.com/y7vbdcec*

> don't own a tractor or a combine, so I don't need anything bigger.

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    I've had tubes of this stuff sitting on the shelf for years with no
    apparent separation:<br>
    <br>
    <b><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tinyurl.com/y7vbdcec">https://tinyurl.com/y7vbdcec</a></b><br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/4/2021 3:39 AM, Jeff Scarbrough
      wrote:<br>
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      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 9:56 PM John Mitchell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:
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May not help you, but I bought a mini-grease gun that uses 3 ounce
cartridges.  If I do have one get squidgy, I'm not wasting as much.  I
don't own a tractor or a combine, so I don't need anything bigger.

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From: Donald H Locker <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:17:24 -0500

Meant for the list.

BTW, for those interested, the "?gclid=...." string that the tinyurl was
hiding is a google tracking code, so they can tell who has gone where.
Beware of all kinds of "clid=" strings.

For those who are (properly) leery of tinyurl (which can point to and/or
hide all kinds of malware-infested locations) the product is
Mobilgrease® XHP 222, Blue, Lithium Complex, Multipurpose Grease, 13.7
oz, 2 NLGI Grade

WWGrainger is one vendor. https://www.grainger.com/product/1MUC1 is
their page for it.

[I use a special configuration of a secure browser for such
investigations; normally, I just let them pass because it's a major
pain, but good lubes are close to my heart.]

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From: Donald H Locker <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 13:17:11 -0500

Though true that the destination's page may be hacked or the DNS address
to the desired destination may be hijacked, at some point one must trust
that the system is reasonably secure. tinyurl obscures the destination,
so there is absolutely no way to know where one is going.

Note that removing the google click-tracker ("?gclid=" plus 313
characters) reduced the length of the URL to a very reasonable 38
characters, of which only 26 are required for any modern browser to
securely connect to the page.

When I go through a search engine, I always try copying and pasting the
link, then removing the click tracker ID before executing the "go"
command. The click traker ID is generally unnecessary and always
invasive :-)

For the truly curious, if you click on the tinyurl link, you will get to
the same link I shared <https://www.grainger.com/product/1MUC1> with
these extra 230 characters:

"?gclid=Cj0KCQiAlsv_BRDtARIsAHMGVSaJ6H7UZqtq8wDeFX1Xb8Gz9mymbdBNq2016x-zO9pgvpLMNWvaVDQaAs2YEALw_wcB&cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA&ef_id=Cj0KCQiAlsv_BRDtARIsAHMGVSaJ6H7UZqtq8wDeFX1Xb8Gz9mymbdBNq2016x-zO9pgvpLMNWvaVDQaAs2YEALw_wcB:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!456245466658!!!g!470562012602!&gucid=N:N:PS:Paid:GGL:CSM-1365:3GRDHM:20511231"

 attached, which is how Google knows where and when you come and go;
they also know then that Bob shared the link and how many people
followed the link that Bob shared! Removing the "?gclid" just increases
your (and Bob's) personal privacy a bit.

Donald.
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On 2021-01-04 12:49 p.m., Bob Spidell wrote:
> Gee, and I thought I was being nice by not sending a 700-char URL (what
> you get when you go through a search engine) ;)
> 
> Note apparently legit-looking URLs can be malicious, too, if someone's
> DNS--a notoriously unsecure protocol--server has been compromised.
> 
> On 1/4/2021 9:13 AM, Donald H Locker wrote:
>> For those who are (properly) leery of tinyurl (which can point to all
>> kinds of malware-infested locations) the product is Mobilgrease® XHP
>> 222, Blue, Lithium Complex, Multipurpose Grease, 13.7 oz, 2 NLGI Grade
>>

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