Subject: [Shop-talk] tv - home theater cabling problem

From: "john niolon" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 12:38:51 -0500

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Hi guys.   is there a tv/audio guru that can drag me thru a tv/U-verse=
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theatre quandry ??  shop content is I watch shop videos on u-tube

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From: John Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 10:54:41 -0700

On 8/14/2020 10:38 AM, john niolon wrote:
> Hi guys.   is there a tv/audio guru that can drag me thru a 
> tv/U-verse/home theatre quandry ??  shop content is I watch shop videos 
> on u-tube

I know a little bit, others may know more, what do you need?

John.

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From: "john niolon" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 13:50:23 -0500

Here is my problem
Tv is 75” led  UN75J6300afxza Using U-verse system
Input  to tv is as follows
 
HDMI1  
hdmi cable from Uverse DVR to LG LHT874 home theatre/DVP player through  HDMI input port
Then from HDMI output to HDMI1 port on back of tv set
 
HDMI2  
hdmi cable from Apple TV box to HDMI2 port on back of set
 
HDMI3
 
Hdmi cable from Samsung DV/CD disc player to HDMI3 port on back of set
 
Tv works fine on hdmi1 setting thru home theatre system with home theatre controlling
Sound.
 
When I switch to HDMI2 and appleTV   the video works fine but I can still hear the audio from
The U-verse on HDMI1  
 
Is there a setting or cable routing that I have wrong or am missing to hear only audio from the HDMI port I select ?? 
 
I am not using any component cabling at all   should I be ??

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 19:26:52 +0000 (UTC)

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 Can you route your Apple TV and Samsung through the Home Theater box?=C2=
=A0 Mine has four HDMI inputs and one output so anything routed through tha=
t gets audio.
Failing that there is an ACR (Audio Readback Channel) feature built into so=
me equipment.=C2=A0 In theory, the TV will feed the audio information back =
to the Home Theater Audio device which will play the audio.=C2=A0 I never g=
ot mine to work even though all the settings are correct.=C2=A0 I had to re=
sort to the Optical link which works well enough - if you have an optical i=
nput.
Good luck
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Dave=20

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From: john niolon <[email-masked]>
To: John Miller <[email-masked]>; shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2020 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tv - home theater cabling problem

Here is my problem
Tv is 75=E2=80=9D led=C2=A0 UN75J6300afxza Using U-verse system
Input=C2=A0 to tv is as follows
=20
HDMI1=C2=A0=20
hdmi cable from Uverse DVR to LG LHT874 home theatre/DVP player through=C2=
=A0 HDMI input port
Then from HDMI output to HDMI1 port on back of tv set
=20
HDMI2=C2=A0=20
hdmi cable from Apple TV box to HDMI2 port on back of set
=20
HDMI3
=20
Hdmi cable from Samsung DV/CD disc player to HDMI3 port on back of set
=20
Tv works fine on hdmi1 setting thru home theatre system with home theatre c=
ontrolling
Sound.
=20
When I switch to HDMI2 and appleTV=C2=A0 the video works fine but I can sti=
ll hear the audio from
The U-verse on HDMI1=C2=A0=20
=20
Is there a setting or cable routing that I have wrong or am missing to hear=
 only audio from the HDMI port I select ??=20
=20
I am not using any component cabling at all=C2=A0 should I be ??

=20

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On 8/14/2020 10:38 AM, john niolon wrote:
> Hi guys.=C2=A0 is there a tv/audio guru that can drag me thru a=20
> tv/U-verse/home theatre quandry ??=C2=A0 shop content is I watch shop vid=
eos=20

John.

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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">Can you route your Apple TV and Samsung through the =
Home Theater box?&nbsp; Mine has four HDMI inputs and one output so anythin=
g routed through that gets audio.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Failing that there is an ACR (Audio Readback Channel)=
 feature built into some equipment.&nbsp; In theory, the TV will feed the a=
udio information back to the Home Theater Audio device which will play the =
audio.&nbsp; I never got mine to work even though all the settings are corr=
ect.&nbsp; I had to resort to the Optical link which works well enough - if=
 you have an optical input.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Good luck</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
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To: John Miller &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; shop-talk &lt;[email-masked]=
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Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2020 1:50 pm<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Here is my problem<br clear=3D"none">Tv is 75=E2=80=9D led=
&nbsp; UN75J6300afxza Using U-verse system<br clear=3D"none">Input&nbsp; to=
 tv is as follows<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">HDMI1&nbsp; <br cle=
ar=3D"none">hdmi cable from Uverse DVR to LG LHT874 home theatre/DVP player=
 through&nbsp; HDMI input port<br clear=3D"none">Then from HDMI output to H=
DMI1 port on back of tv set<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">HDMI2&nbs=
p; <br clear=3D"none">hdmi cable from Apple TV box to HDMI2 port on back of=
 set<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">HDMI3<br clear=3D"none"> <br cle=
ar=3D"none">Hdmi cable from Samsung DV/CD disc player to HDMI3 port on back=
 of set<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">Tv works fine on hdmi1 settin=
g thru home theatre system with home theatre controlling<br clear=3D"none">=
Sound.<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">When I switch to HDMI2 and app=
leTV&nbsp;  the video works fine but I can still hear the audio from<br cle=
ar=3D"none">The U-verse on HDMI1&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"non=
e">Is there a setting or cable routing that I have wrong or am missing to h=
ear only audio from the HDMI port I select ?? <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=
=3D"none">I am not using any component cabling at all&nbsp;  should I be ??=
<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none=
">----- Original Message -----<br clear=3D"none">From: John Miller &lt;<a s=
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ater cabling problem<br clear=3D"none">____________________________________=
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"none">On 8/14/2020 10:38 AM, john niolon wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Hi =
guys.&nbsp;  is there a tv/audio guru that can drag me thru a <br clear=3D"=
none">&gt; tv/U-verse/home theatre quandry ??&nbsp; shop content is I watch=
 shop videos <br clear=3D"none">&gt; on u-tube<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">I know a little bit, others may know more, what do you need?<br c=
lear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">John.<br clear=3D"none">__________________=
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Not sure that is this your problem, but SOME HDMI cables are polarized 
(meaning input to output must go in a certain direction.)

I found this out the hard way.  Maybe you have an incompatible cable on 
the one device.

"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational 
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph 
Waldo Emerson 
-Who is John Galt?
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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Not sure that is this your problem, but
SOME HDMI cables are polarized (meaning input to output must go in a certain
direction.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I found this out the hard way. &nbsp;Maybe
you have an incompatible cable on the one device.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
&quot;Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory.&quot; Ralph
Waldo Emerson <br>
-Who is John Galt?</font>
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From: "john niolon" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 17:09:18 -0500

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figured out there is only one way to put three hdmi inputs thru a thea=
ter=20
system with one import... I need an hdmi switch.. should be here next=20=

week.nothing is easy anymore

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tv - home theater cabling problem

Not sure that is this your problem, but SOME HDMI cables are polarized=
 (meaning=20
input to output must go in a certain direction.)=20

I found this out the hard way.  Maybe you have an incompatible cable o=
n the one=20
device.=20

"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a ratio=
nal being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory."=20=

Ralph Waldo Emerson=20

-Who is John Galt?=20

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
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 Directional HDMI cables.=C2=A0 Who'd thunk.=C2=A0 I'll try swapping it end=
 for end.
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Sent: Fri, Aug 14, 2020 4:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tv - home theater cabling problem

Not sure that is this your problem, butSOME HDMI cables are polarized (mean=
ing input to output must go in a certaindirection.)

I found this out the hard way. =C2=A0Maybeyou have an incompatible cable on=
 the one device.

"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rationalbe=
ing are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." RalphWaldo E=
merson=20
-Who is John Galt?_______________________________________________

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<div> <font size="3">Directional HDMI cables.&nbsp; Who'd thunk.&nbsp; I'll try swapping it end for end.</font><br>
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<div style="clear:both"><font size="4">Dave </font><br>
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<div><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Not sure that is this your problem, but
SOME HDMI cables are polarized (meaning input to output must go in a certain
direction.)</font>
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<br clear="none"><font size="2" face="sans-serif">I found this out the hard way. &nbsp;Maybe
you have an incompatible cable on the one device.</font>
<br clear="none"><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph
Waldo Emerson <br clear="none">
-Who is John Galt?</font></div>
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From: Ronnie Day <[email-masked]>
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John & group -

Going through something similar. This is gonna be a bit long, but it's a
more complex situation than it may appear to be. A bit of background  -

I've been in and around the music and A/V business for close to 60 years. 9
of my 11 years of AF active duty I played in several AF bands, always doing
sound and recording as an "additional duty". I also designed and built a
couple of
in-house studios. The last two years of my active duty time I did film
sound recording, editing and mixer for a DoD outfit in SoCal. A couple
years later I ended up in DC working for Naval Media, and started working
with digital audio for film and TV projects. So, I've seen things go from
1/4 inch reel-to-reel tape through 35 and 16 mm magnetic film to analog,
then digital videotape, to all of the digital formats we play with today. I
retired from the VA in Temple, TX, three years ago after 20 years working
as a TV engineer/photographer, so I've played with all of the different
media formats over the years.

We have three Samsung 4K TVs. Regarding sound out, you should be able to
select the sound output to the TV speakers, the HTiB receiver and maybe one
or two other options, depending on how you have things connected. Look
under Settings>Sound Speakers or Output. On some TVs you can switch the
audio output on each input individually, on others it's a universal setting
for all the inputs. I suggest you draw this all out for yourself in pencil
and have an eraser handy.

I've attached a diagram of the following - In our MBR, the system I'm
working on now, we have a Dish Hopper going through a Yamaha A/V receiver
then to the TV. First problem occurred when I routed a new Sony 4K DVD
player through the Yamaha. I couldn't play 4K DVDs, but Blu-Rays played
fine. After a lot of head scratching and more than a few choice words, I
contacted Yamaha T/S and found out that the several y/o receiver (RX-A840)
only supports HDMI 2.0, not 2.2, which the Sony needs to play 4K discs, so
currently the 4K player is connected directly to the second HDMI port of
the TV. To get the audio from the DVD player back into the Yamaha, I come
out of the optical audio port back to one of the optical ports on the
Yamaha. Works fine.

Things got complicated when I decided to playback 4K movie files from hard
drives or other removable devices. I've got a couple of USB3 8TB drives
full of movies. One is all 4K files. Some of these are formatted
slightly differently than others and require a seperate audio codec. plus
the TV has only 1 USB port. After posting questions to a worldwide media
list I've been on since the late '90s when I built my first digital A/V
editing system, the consensus was that I needed a "media player" to connect
the two hard drives to the TV, so I ordered a MyPin M29 media player, $60
from Amazon. It supported the file formats I needed, but it wouldn't let me
turn off subtitles/closed captioning (bummer) and I get frequent, subtle
"stuttering" in the audio (MAJOR bummer). If I plugged the 4K hard drive
into either my Mac or PC and used VLC, everything worked fine, but I want
to watch these movies on the 55 inch in our bedroom. An added problem was
that the output of the MyPin player is HDMI and I was already out of HDMI
ports on the TV. So, after several discussions with several folks, I
ordered a Lenovo M75 Tiny mini PC and plan to run Plex server as the core
of a home media server down the road. The hard drives plug into it, and
there's plenty of room for expansion.

Now, how to get these additional souces into the TV? While working to
connect all of these input devices I noticed that TESmart has a 4 x 1 HDMI
switch. I'm using one of their KVM switches to let me control a couple of
Macs and a PC with a single keyboard and mouse for some time and it works
great. I sent their tech folks a note describing my issues with 4K and they
said try it. The switch was $25 and they offer a 30 day return.
Unfortunately it won't work with 4K so it's going back next week. After
talking to a Ford AV systems engineer in Austin that I've worked with
before, I ordered a Monoprice (31057) switch/scaler that Monoprice promises
will do what I need. It, too, has a 30 return.

Sorry if i've been a bit long winded but setting up all of these boxe to
work together, especially with 4K is a bit complex. The reason I'm going
through all of this detail is that if anyone's not doing 4K video, all of
the simpler routing and switching should work fine. However, if you have
ANY thoughts of going to 4K, plan for that now. Hopefully I can save other
folks some blood, sweat & tears!

RD

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:39 PM john niolon <[email-masked]> wrote:

> tv/U-verse/home theatre quandry ??  shop content is I watch shop videos on
> u-tube
>
> john
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">John &amp; group -<div><br></div><div>Going through someth=
ing similar. This is gonna be a bit long, but it&#39;s a more complex situa=
tion than it may appear to be. A bit of background=C2=A0 -</div><div><br></=
div><div>I&#39;ve been in and around the music and A/V business for close t=
o 60 years. 9 of my 11 years of AF active duty I played in several AF bands=
, always doing sound and recording as an &quot;additional duty&quot;. I als=
o designed and built a couple of <br>in-house studios. The last two years o=
f my active duty time I did film sound recording, editing and mixer for a D=
oD outfit in SoCal. A couple years later I ended up in DC working for Naval=
 Media, and started working with digital audio for film and TV projects. So=
, I&#39;ve seen things go from 1/4 inch reel-to-reel tape through 35 and 16=
 mm magnetic film to analog, then digital videotape,=C2=A0to all of the dig=
ital formats we play with today. I retired from the VA in Temple, TX, three=
 years ago after 20 years working as a TV engineer/photographer, so I&#39;v=
e played with all of the different media formats over the years.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>We have three Samsung 4K TVs. Regarding sound out, you shoul=
d be able to select the sound output to the TV speakers, the HTiB receiver =
and maybe one or two other options, depending on how you have things connec=
ted. Look under Settings&gt;Sound Speakers or Output. On some TVs you can s=
witch the audio output on each input individually, on others it&#39;s a uni=
versal setting for all the inputs. I suggest you draw this all out for your=
self in pencil and have an=C2=A0eraser handy.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#3=
9;ve attached a diagram of the following - In our MBR, the system I&#39;m w=
orking on now, we have a Dish Hopper going through a Yamaha A/V receiver th=
en to the TV. First problem occurred when I routed a new Sony 4K DVD player=
 through=C2=A0the Yamaha. I couldn&#39;t play 4K DVDs, but Blu-Rays played =
fine. After a lot of head scratching and more than a few choice words, I co=
ntacted Yamaha T/S and found out that the several y/o receiver (RX-A840) on=
ly supports HDMI 2.0, not 2.2, which the Sony needs to play 4K discs, so cu=
rrently the 4K player is connected directly to the second HDMI port of the =
TV. To get the audio from the DVD player back into the Yamaha, I come out o=
f the optical audio port back to one of the optical ports on the Yamaha. Wo=
rks fine.</div><div><br></div><div>Things got complicated when I decided to=
 playback 4K movie files from hard drives or other removable devices. I&#39=
;ve got a couple of USB3 8TB drives full of movies. One is all 4K files. So=
me of these are formatted slightly=C2=A0differently than others and require=
 a seperate audio codec. plus the TV has only 1 USB port. After posting que=
stions to a worldwide media list I&#39;ve been on since the late &#39;90s w=
hen I built my first digital A/V editing system, the consensus was that I n=
eeded a &quot;media player&quot; to connect the two hard drives to the TV, =
so I ordered a MyPin M29 media player, $60 from Amazon. It supported the fi=
le formats I needed, but it wouldn&#39;t let me turn off subtitles/closed c=
aptioning (bummer) and I get frequent, subtle &quot;stuttering&quot; in the=
 audio (MAJOR bummer). If I plugged the 4K hard drive into either my Mac or=
 PC and used VLC, everything worked fine, but I want to watch these movies =
on the 55 inch in our bedroom. An added problem was that the output of the =
MyPin player=C2=A0is HDMI and I was already out of HDMI ports on the TV. So=
, after several discussions with several folks, I ordered a Lenovo M75 Tiny=
 mini PC and plan to run Plex server as the core of a home media server dow=
n the road. The hard drives plug into it, and there&#39;s plenty of room fo=
r expansion.</div><div><br></div><div>Now, how to get these additional souc=
es into the TV? While working to connect all of these input devices I notic=
ed that TESmart has a 4 x 1 HDMI switch. I&#39;m using one of their KVM swi=
tches to let me control a couple of Macs and a PC with a single keyboard an=
d mouse for some time and it works great. I sent their tech folks a note de=
scribing my issues with 4K and they said try it. The switch was $25 and the=
y offer a 30 day return. Unfortunately it won&#39;t work with 4K so it&#39;=
s going back next week. After talking to a Ford AV systems engineer in Aust=
in that I&#39;ve worked with before, I ordered a Monoprice (31057) switch/s=
caler that Monoprice promises will do what I need. It, too, has a 30 return=
.</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry if i&#39;ve been a bit long winded but set=
ting up all of these boxe to work together, especially with 4K is a bit com=
plex. The reason I&#39;m going through all of this detail is that if anyone=
&#39;s not doing 4K video, all of the simpler routing and switching should =
work fine. However, if you have ANY thoughts of going to 4K, plan for that =
now. Hopefully I can save other folks some blood, sweat &amp; tears!</div><=
div><br></div><div>RD</div><div><br></div><div></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 14, 2020=
 at 12:39 PM john niolon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex">

<div>
<div>Hi guys.=C2=A0=C2=A0 is there a tv/audio guru that can drag me thru a =
tv/U-verse/home theatre quandry ??=C2=A0 shop content is I watch shop video=
s on u-tube</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>john</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
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RD, I=E2=80=99ve had similar challenges with evolving AV tech (4K) and I=E2=
=80=99ve
essentially done what you did (Plex server).  I=E2=80=99ve moved all of my =
movies,
DVD, pictures, etc. onto a Synology Network Attached Storage (RAID 10) that
runs Plex Server.  I have a mix of clients all over the house, everything
from mini-PCs, to Amazon Fire sticks/boxes, and Nvidia Shields.  I=E2=80=99=
m not an
expert, but I=E2=80=99ve been running Plex for about 10 years now if you ha=
ve any
questions.

Best,
Ian

On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 3:03 PM Ronnie Day <[email-masked]> wrote:

> John & group -
>
> Things got complicated when I decided to playback 4K movie files from har=
d
> editing system, the consensus was that I needed a "media player" to conne=
ct
> from Amazon. It supported the file formats I needed, but it wouldn't let =
me
> connect all of these input devices I noticed that TESmart has a 4 x 1 HDM=
I
> great. I sent their tech folks a note describing my issues with 4K and th=
ey
> before, I ordered a Monoprice (31057) switch/scaler that Monoprice promis=
es
> ANY thoughts of going to 4K, plan for that now. Hopefully I can save othe=
r
> folks some blood, sweat & tears!

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<div><div dir=3D"auto">RD, I=E2=80=99ve had similar challenges with evolvin=
g AV tech (4K) and I=E2=80=99ve essentially done what you did (Plex server)=
.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve moved all of my movies, DVD, pictures, etc. onto a Syn=
ology Network Attached Storage (RAID 10) that runs Plex Server.=C2=A0 I hav=
e a mix of clients all over the house, everything from mini-PCs, to Amazon =
Fire sticks/boxes, and Nvidia Shields.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m not an expert, but=
 I=E2=80=99ve been running Plex for about 10 years now if you have any ques=
tions. =C2=A0</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Best=
,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Ian</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 3:03 PM Ronnie Day=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">John &amp; g=
roup -<div><br></div><div>Things got complicated when I decided to playback=
 4K movie files from hard drives or other removable devices. I&#39;ve got a=
 couple of USB3 8TB drives full of movies. One is all 4K files. Some of the=
se are formatted slightly=C2=A0differently than others and require a sepera=
te audio codec. plus the TV has only 1 USB port. After posting questions to=
 a worldwide media list I&#39;ve been on since the late &#39;90s when I bui=
lt my first digital A/V editing system, the consensus was that I needed a &=
quot;media player&quot; to connect the two hard drives to the TV, so I orde=
red a MyPin M29 media player, $60 from Amazon. It supported the file format=
s I needed, but it wouldn&#39;t let me turn off subtitles/closed captioning=
 (bummer) and I get frequent, subtle &quot;stuttering&quot; in the audio (M=
AJOR bummer). If I plugged the 4K hard drive into either my Mac or PC and u=
sed VLC, everything worked fine, but I want to watch these movies on the 55=
 inch in our bedroom. An added problem was that the output of the MyPin pla=
yer=C2=A0is HDMI and I was already out of HDMI ports on the TV. So, after s=
everal discussions with several folks, I ordered a Lenovo M75 Tiny mini PC =
and plan to run Plex server as the core of a home media server down the roa=
d. The hard drives plug into it, and there&#39;s plenty of room for expansi=
on.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Now, how to get these additional souces in=
to the TV? While working to connect all of these input devices I noticed th=
at TESmart has a 4 x 1 HDMI switch. I&#39;m using one of their KVM switches=
 to let me control a couple of Macs and a PC with a single keyboard and mou=
se for some time and it works great. I sent their tech folks a note describ=
ing my issues with 4K and they said try it. The switch was $25 and they off=
er a 30 day return. Unfortunately it won&#39;t work with 4K so it&#39;s goi=
ng back next week. After talking to a Ford AV systems engineer in Austin th=
at I&#39;ve worked with before, I ordered a Monoprice (31057) switch/scaler=
 that Monoprice promises will do what I need. It, too, has a 30 return.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Sorry if i&#39;ve been a bit long winded but setting =
up all of these boxe to work together, especially with 4K is a bit complex.=
 The reason I&#39;m going through all of this detail is that if anyone&#39;=
s not doing 4K video, all of the simpler routing and switching should work =
fine. However, if you have ANY thoughts of going to 4K, plan for that now. =
Hopefully I can save other folks some blood, sweat &amp; tears!</div><div><=
br></div><div>RD</div><div><br></div><div></div></div><br></blockquote></di=
v></div>

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Thanks, Ian. I'll keep your offer in mind. I received the Tiny PC and the
Monoprice scaler/switch, but haven't plugged the switch into the system
yet. I'm just moving the HDMI cable from the 4K DVD player to the computer.
It's best to deal with only one variable at a time, IMO. I've "added" the
4K movies and files from the other large drive to the Plex library, but I'm
not getting smooth playback of the 4K files via Plex, however, they play
fine using VLC! 'Splain that one to me Lucy! I figure I have some Plex
configuration issues to sort out. It'll come as I learn more, I'm sure.
Once I get it all working as I want I'll start  getting ready to move the
hardware to my office, but no big hurry on that, unless the Boss decides
she wants closets built where the hardware is right now.

Ron

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:21 AM Ian McFetridge <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> RD, I=E2=80=99ve had similar challenges with evolving AV tech (4K) and I=
=E2=80=99ve
> essentially done what you did (Plex server).  I=E2=80=99ve moved all of m=
y movies,
> DVD, pictures, etc. onto a Synology Network Attached Storage (RAID 10) th=
at
> from mini-PCs, to Amazon Fire sticks/boxes, and Nvidia Shields.  I=E2=80=
=99m not an
> expert, but I=E2=80=99ve been running Plex for about 10 years now if you =
have any
>> Things got complicated when I decided to playback 4K movie files from
>> hard drives or other removable devices. I've got a couple of USB3 8TB
>> drives full of movies. One is all 4K files. Some of these are formatted
>> slightly differently than others and require a seperate audio codec. plu=
s
>> editing system, the consensus was that I needed a "media player" to conn=
ect
>> the two hard drives to the TV, so I ordered a MyPin M29 media player, $6=
0
>> from Amazon. It supported the file formats I needed, but it wouldn't let=
 me
>> into either my Mac or PC and used VLC, everything worked fine, but I wan=
t
>> to watch these movies on the 55 inch in our bedroom. An added problem wa=
s
>> that the output of the MyPin player is HDMI and I was already out of HDM=
I
>> ordered a Lenovo M75 Tiny mini PC and plan to run Plex server as the cor=
e
>> connect all of these input devices I noticed that TESmart has a 4 x 1 HD=
MI
>> switch. I'm using one of their KVM switches to let me control a couple o=
f
>> Macs and a PC with a single keyboard and mouse for some time and it work=
s
>> great. I sent their tech folks a note describing my issues with 4K and t=
hey
>> before, I ordered a Monoprice (31057) switch/scaler that Monoprice promi=
ses
>> through all of this detail is that if anyone's not doing 4K video, all o=
f
>> ANY thoughts of going to 4K, plan for that now. Hopefully I can save oth=
er
>> folks some blood, sweat & tears!

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks, Ian. I&#39;ll keep your offer in mind. I received=
=C2=A0the Tiny PC and the Monoprice scaler/switch, but haven&#39;t plugged =
the switch into the system yet. I&#39;m just moving the HDMI cable from the=
 4K DVD player to the computer. It&#39;s best to deal with only one variabl=
e at a time, IMO. I&#39;ve &quot;added&quot; the 4K movies and files from t=
he other large drive to the Plex library, but I&#39;m not getting smooth pl=
ayback of the 4K files via Plex, however, they play fine using VLC! &#39;Sp=
lain that one to me Lucy! I figure I have some Plex configuration issues to=
 sort out. It&#39;ll come as I learn more, I&#39;m sure. Once I get it all =
working as I want I&#39;ll start=C2=A0 getting ready to move the hardware t=
o my office, but no big hurry on that, unless the Boss decides she wants cl=
osets built where the hardware is right now.<div><br></div><div>Ron</div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:21 AM Ian McFetridge &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-ta=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">RD, I=
=E2=80=99ve had similar challenges with evolving AV tech (4K) and I=E2=80=
=99ve essentially done what you did (Plex server).=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve moved=
 all of my movies, DVD, pictures, etc. onto a Synology Network Attached Sto=
rage (RAID 10) that runs Plex Server.=C2=A0 I have a mix of clients all ove=
r the house, everything from mini-PCs, to Amazon Fire sticks/boxes, and Nvi=
dia Shields.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m not an expert, but I=E2=80=99ve been running=
 Plex for about 10 years now if you have any questions. =C2=A0</div></div><=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Best,</div><div dir=3D"auto">I=
an</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 3:03 PM Ronnie Day &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ron=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">J=
ohn &amp; group -<div><br></div><div>Things got complicated when I decided =
to playback 4K movie files from hard drives or other removable devices. I&#=
39;ve got a couple of USB3 8TB drives full of movies. One is all 4K files. =
Some of these are formatted slightly=C2=A0differently than others and requi=
re a seperate audio codec. plus the TV has only 1 USB port. After posting q=
uestions to a worldwide media list I&#39;ve been on since the late &#39;90s=
 when I built my first digital A/V editing system, the consensus was that I=
 needed a &quot;media player&quot; to connect the two hard drives to the TV=
, so I ordered a MyPin M29 media player, $60 from Amazon. It supported the =
file formats I needed, but it wouldn&#39;t let me turn off subtitles/closed=
 captioning (bummer) and I get frequent, subtle &quot;stuttering&quot; in t=
he audio (MAJOR bummer). If I plugged the 4K hard drive into either my Mac =
or PC and used VLC, everything worked fine, but I want to watch these movie=
s on the 55 inch in our bedroom. An added problem was that the output of th=
e MyPin player=C2=A0is HDMI and I was already out of HDMI ports on the TV. =
So, after several discussions with several folks, I ordered a Lenovo M75 Ti=
ny mini PC and plan to run Plex server as the core of a home media server d=
own the road. The hard drives plug into it, and there&#39;s plenty of room =
for expansion.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Now, how to get these additiona=
l souces into the TV? While working to connect all of these input devices I=
 noticed that TESmart has a 4 x 1 HDMI switch. I&#39;m using one of their K=
VM switches to let me control a couple of Macs and a PC with a single keybo=
ard and mouse for some time and it works great. I sent their tech folks a n=
ote describing my issues with 4K and they said try it. The switch was $25 a=
nd they offer a 30 day return. Unfortunately it won&#39;t work with 4K so i=
t&#39;s going back next week. After talking to a Ford AV systems engineer i=
n Austin that I&#39;ve worked with before, I ordered a Monoprice (31057) sw=
itch/scaler that Monoprice promises will do what I need. It, too, has a 30 =
return.</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry if i&#39;ve been a bit long winded b=
ut setting up all of these boxe to work together, especially with 4K is a b=
it complex. The reason I&#39;m going through all of this detail is that if =
anyone&#39;s not doing 4K video, all of the simpler routing and switching s=
hould work fine. However, if you have ANY thoughts of going to 4K, plan for=
 that now. Hopefully I can save other folks some blood, sweat &amp; tears!<=
/div><div><br></div><div>RD</div><div><br></div><div></div></div><br></bloc=
kquote></div></div>
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I found out that Plex doesn't play nice with MKv files. I may look into
converting them, but for the time being I can play them using VLC. IMO,
this just emphasizes how complex making all of this stuff can be. The next
step over the next couple of days is to integrate a HDMI switch between the
Tiny-PC and the AV receiver and the TV.

Ron

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:47 AM Ronnie Day <[email-masked]> wrote:

> yet. I'm just moving the HDMI cable from the 4K DVD player to the compute=
r.
> 4K movies and files from the other large drive to the Plex library, but I=
'm
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:21 AM Ian McFetridge <[email-masked]=
g>
=E2=80=99ve
>> essentially done what you did (Plex server).  I=E2=80=99ve moved all of =
my movies,
>> DVD, pictures, etc. onto a Synology Network Attached Storage (RAID 10) t=
hat
>> runs Plex Server.  I have a mix of clients all over the house, everythin=
g
=99m not an
>> expert, but I=E2=80=99ve been running Plex for about 10 years now if you=
 have any
>>> slightly differently than others and require a seperate audio codec. pl=
us
>>> the TV has only 1 USB port. After posting questions to a worldwide medi=
a
>>> editing system, the consensus was that I needed a "media player" to con=
nect
>>> the two hard drives to the TV, so I ordered a MyPin M29 media player, $=
60
>>> from Amazon. It supported the file formats I needed, but it wouldn't le=
t me
>>> turn off subtitles/closed captioning (bummer) and I get frequent, subtl=
e
>>> "stuttering" in the audio (MAJOR bummer). If I plugged the 4K hard driv=
e
>>> into either my Mac or PC and used VLC, everything worked fine, but I wa=
nt
>>> to watch these movies on the 55 inch in our bedroom. An added problem w=
as
>>> that the output of the MyPin player is HDMI and I was already out of HD=
MI
>>> ordered a Lenovo M75 Tiny mini PC and plan to run Plex server as the co=
re
>>> connect all of these input devices I noticed that TESmart has a 4 x 1 H=
DMI
>>> switch. I'm using one of their KVM switches to let me control a couple =
of
>>> Macs and a PC with a single keyboard and mouse for some time and it wor=
ks
>>> great. I sent their tech folks a note describing my issues with 4K and =
they
>>> before, I ordered a Monoprice (31057) switch/scaler that Monoprice prom=
ises
>>> Sorry if i've been a bit long winded but setting up all of these boxe t=
o
>>> work together, especially with 4K is a bit complex. The reason I'm goin=
g
>>> through all of this detail is that if anyone's not doing 4K video, all =
of
>>> the simpler routing and switching should work fine. However, if you hav=
e
>>> ANY thoughts of going to 4K, plan for that now. Hopefully I can save ot=
her
>>> folks some blood, sweat & tears!

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I found out that Plex doesn&#39;t play nice with MKv files=
. I may look into converting them, but for the time being I can play them u=
sing VLC. IMO, this just emphasizes how complex making all of this stuff ca=
n be. The next step over the next couple of days is to integrate a HDMI swi=
tch between the Tiny-PC and the AV receiver and the TV.<div><br></div><div>=
Ron</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:47 AM Ronnie Day &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks, Ian. I&#=
39;ll keep your offer in mind. I received=C2=A0the Tiny PC and the Monopric=
e scaler/switch, but haven&#39;t plugged the switch into the system yet. I&=
#39;m just moving the HDMI cable from the 4K DVD player to the computer. It=
&#39;s best to deal with only one variable at a time, IMO. I&#39;ve &quot;a=
dded&quot; the 4K movies and files from the other large drive to the Plex l=
ibrary, but I&#39;m not getting smooth playback of the 4K files via Plex, h=
owever, they play fine using VLC! &#39;Splain that one to me Lucy! I figure=
 I have some Plex configuration issues to sort out. It&#39;ll come as I lea=
rn more, I&#39;m sure. Once I get it all working as I want I&#39;ll start=
=C2=A0 getting ready to move the hardware to my office, but no big hurry on=
 that, unless the Boss decides she wants closets built where the hardware i=
s right now.<div><br></div><div>Ron</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:21 AM I=
an McFetridge &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">RD, I=E2=80=99ve ha=
d similar challenges with evolving AV tech (4K) and I=E2=80=99ve essentiall=
y done what you did (Plex server).=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve moved all of my movie=
s, DVD, pictures, etc. onto a Synology Network Attached Storage (RAID 10) t=
hat runs Plex Server.=C2=A0 I have a mix of clients all over the house, eve=
rything from mini-PCs, to Amazon Fire sticks/boxes, and Nvidia Shields.=C2=
=A0 I=E2=80=99m not an expert, but I=E2=80=99ve been running Plex for about=
 10 years now if you have any questions. =C2=A0</div></div><div dir=3D"auto=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Best,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Ian</div><div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, =
Aug 15, 2020 at 3:03 PM Ronnie Day &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">John &amp; group=
 -<div><br></div><div>Things got complicated when I decided to playback 4K =
movie files from hard drives or other removable devices. I&#39;ve got a cou=
ple of USB3 8TB drives full of movies. One is all 4K files. Some of these a=
re formatted slightly=C2=A0differently than others and require a seperate a=
udio codec. plus the TV has only 1 USB port. After posting questions to a w=
orldwide media list I&#39;ve been on since the late &#39;90s when I built m=
y first digital A/V editing system, the consensus was that I needed a &quot=
;media player&quot; to connect the two hard drives to the TV, so I ordered =
a MyPin M29 media player, $60 from Amazon. It supported the file formats I =
needed, but it wouldn&#39;t let me turn off subtitles/closed captioning (bu=
mmer) and I get frequent, subtle &quot;stuttering&quot; in the audio (MAJOR=
 bummer). If I plugged the 4K hard drive into either my Mac or PC and used =
VLC, everything worked fine, but I want to watch these movies on the 55 inc=
h in our bedroom. An added problem was that the output of the MyPin player=
=C2=A0is HDMI and I was already out of HDMI ports on the TV. So, after seve=
ral discussions with several folks, I ordered a Lenovo M75 Tiny mini PC and=
 plan to run Plex server as the core of a home media server down the road. =
The hard drives plug into it, and there&#39;s plenty of room for expansion.=
<br></div><div><br></div><div>Now, how to get these additional souces into =
the TV? While working to connect all of these input devices I noticed that =
TESmart has a 4 x 1 HDMI switch. I&#39;m using one of their KVM switches to=
 let me control a couple of Macs and a PC with a single keyboard and mouse =
for some time and it works great. I sent their tech folks a note describing=
 my issues with 4K and they said try it. The switch was $25 and they offer =
a 30 day return. Unfortunately it won&#39;t work with 4K so it&#39;s going =
back next week. After talking to a Ford AV systems engineer in Austin that =
I&#39;ve worked with before, I ordered a Monoprice (31057) switch/scaler th=
at Monoprice promises will do what I need. It, too, has a 30 return.</div><=
div><br></div><div>Sorry if i&#39;ve been a bit long winded but setting up =
all of these boxe to work together, especially with 4K is a bit complex. Th=
e reason I&#39;m going through all of this detail is that if anyone&#39;s n=
ot doing 4K video, all of the simpler routing and switching should work fin=
e. However, if you have ANY thoughts of going to 4K, plan for that now. Hop=
efully I can save other folks some blood, sweat &amp; tears!</div><div><br>=
</div><div>RD</div><div><br></div><div></div></div><br></blockquote></div><=
/div>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div>

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From: Ronnie Day <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 16:15:22 -0500

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Thanks, Ian, I'll check it out. Right now playback using the Plex app on
the TinyPC stutters slightly. Haven't tried using the Plex app on the TV.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 3:16 PM Ian McFetridge <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Hi Ron,
>
> What issues are you having with MKV files?  I backed-up most of my
> Blu-ray=E2=80=99s into MKV containers, but I believe I have some 4K encod=
ed with
> H.264 HEVC.  Have you seen this page?
>
>
> https://support.plex.tv/articles/203810286-what-media-formats-are-support=
ed/
>
> Best,
> Ian
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 2:52 PM Ronnie Day <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>> this just emphasizes how complex making all of this stuff can be. The ne=
xt
>> step over the next couple of days is to integrate a HDMI switch between =
the
>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:47 AM Ronnie Day <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>>
>>> Thanks, Ian. I'll keep your offer in mind. I received the Tiny PC and
>>> the Monoprice scaler/switch, but haven't plugged the switch into the sy=
stem
>>> yet. I'm just moving the HDMI cable from the 4K DVD player to the compu=
ter.
>>> It's best to deal with only one variable at a time, IMO. I've "added" t=
he
>>> 4K movies and files from the other large drive to the Plex library, but=
 I'm
>>> not getting smooth playback of the 4K files via Plex, however, they pla=
y
>>> Once I get it all working as I want I'll start  getting ready to move t=
he
>>> hardware to my office, but no big hurry on that, unless the Boss decide=
s
>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:21 AM Ian McFetridge <
>>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> RD, I=E2=80=99ve had similar challenges with evolving AV tech (4K) and=
 I=E2=80=99ve
>>>> essentially done what you did (Plex server).  I=E2=80=99ve moved all o=
f my movies,
>>>> DVD, pictures, etc. onto a Synology Network Attached Storage (RAID 10)=
 that
>>>> runs Plex Server.  I have a mix of clients all over the house, everyth=
ing
>>>> from mini-PCs, to Amazon Fire sticks/boxes, and Nvidia Shields.  I=E2=
=80=99m not an
>>>> expert, but I=E2=80=99ve been running Plex for about 10 years now if y=
ou have any
>>>>> drives full of movies. One is all 4K files. Some of these are formatt=
ed
>>>>> slightly differently than others and require a seperate audio codec. =
plus
>>>>> the TV has only 1 USB port. After posting questions to a worldwide me=
dia
>>>>> list I've been on since the late '90s when I built my first digital A=
/V
>>>>> editing system, the consensus was that I needed a "media player" to c=
onnect
>>>>> the two hard drives to the TV, so I ordered a MyPin M29 media player,=
 $60
>>>>> from Amazon. It supported the file formats I needed, but it wouldn't =
let me
>>>>> turn off subtitles/closed captioning (bummer) and I get frequent, sub=
tle
>>>>> "stuttering" in the audio (MAJOR bummer). If I plugged the 4K hard dr=
ive
>>>>> into either my Mac or PC and used VLC, everything worked fine, but I =
want
>>>>> to watch these movies on the 55 inch in our bedroom. An added problem=
 was
>>>>> that the output of the MyPin player is HDMI and I was already out of =
HDMI
>>>>> ordered a Lenovo M75 Tiny mini PC and plan to run Plex server as the =
core
>>>>> of a home media server down the road. The hard drives plug into it, a=
nd
>>>>> connect all of these input devices I noticed that TESmart has a 4 x 1=
 HDMI
>>>>> switch. I'm using one of their KVM switches to let me control a coupl=
e of
>>>>> Macs and a PC with a single keyboard and mouse for some time and it w=
orks
>>>>> great. I sent their tech folks a note describing my issues with 4K an=
d they
>>>>> Unfortunately it won't work with 4K so it's going back next week. Aft=
er
>>>>> before, I ordered a Monoprice (31057) switch/scaler that Monoprice pr=
omises
>>>>> Sorry if i've been a bit long winded but setting up all of these boxe
>>>>> to work together, especially with 4K is a bit complex. The reason I'm=
 going
>>>>> through all of this detail is that if anyone's not doing 4K video, al=
l of
>>>>> the simpler routing and switching should work fine. However, if you h=
ave
>>>>> ANY thoughts of going to 4K, plan for that now. Hopefully I can save =
other
>>>>> folks some blood, sweat & tears!

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks, Ian, I&#39;ll check it out. Right now playback usi=
ng the Plex app on the TinyPC stutters slightly. Haven&#39;t tried using th=
e Plex app on the TV.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 3:16 PM Ian McFetridge &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">Hi Ron,</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">What issues are you having with MKV files?=C2=A0 I backed-up most of m=
y Blu-ray=E2=80=99s into MKV containers, but I believe I have some 4K encod=
ed with H.264 HEVC.=C2=A0 Have you seen this page?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
br></div><div><div><a href=3D"https://support.plex.tv/articles/203810286-wh=
at-media-formats-are-supported/" target=3D"_blank">https://support.plex.tv/=
articles/203810286-what-media-formats-are-supported/</a></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Best,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Ian</div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Au=
g 21, 2020 at 2:52 PM Ronnie Day &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I found out that P=
lex doesn&#39;t play nice with MKv files. I may look into converting them, =
but for the time being I can play them using VLC. IMO, this just emphasizes=
 how complex making all of this stuff can be. The next step over the next c=
ouple of days is to integrate a HDMI switch between the Tiny-PC and the AV =
receiver and the TV.<div><br></div><div>Ron</div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10=
:47 AM Ronnie Day &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks, Ian. I&#39;ll keep your o=
ffer in mind. I received=C2=A0the Tiny PC and the Monoprice scaler/switch, =
but haven&#39;t plugged the switch into the system yet. I&#39;m just moving=
 the HDMI cable from the 4K DVD player to the computer. It&#39;s best to de=
al with only one variable at a time, IMO. I&#39;ve &quot;added&quot; the 4K=
 movies and files from the other large drive to the Plex library, but I&#39=
;m not getting smooth playback of the 4K files via Plex, however, they play=
 fine using VLC! &#39;Splain that one to me Lucy! I figure I have some Plex=
 configuration issues to sort out. It&#39;ll come as I learn more, I&#39;m =
sure. Once I get it all working as I want I&#39;ll start=C2=A0 getting read=
y to move the hardware to my office, but no big hurry on that, unless the B=
oss decides she wants closets built where the hardware is right now.<div><b=
r></div><div>Ron</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 10:21 AM Ian McFetridge &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">shop-talk2@mc=
fetridge.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">RD, I=E2=80=99ve had similar challenges =
with evolving AV tech (4K) and I=E2=80=99ve essentially done what you did (=
Plex server).=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve moved all of my movies, DVD, pictures, etc=
. onto a Synology Network Attached Storage (RAID 10) that runs Plex Server.=
=C2=A0 I have a mix of clients all over the house, everything from mini-PCs=
, to Amazon Fire sticks/boxes, and Nvidia Shields.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m not an=
 expert, but I=E2=80=99ve been running Plex for about 10 years now if you h=
ave any questions. =C2=A0</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Best,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Ian</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 3:03=
 PM Ronnie Day &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">John &amp; group -<div><br></div><di=
v>Things got complicated when I decided to playback 4K movie files from har=
d drives or other removable devices. I&#39;ve got a couple of USB3 8TB driv=
es full of movies. One is all 4K files. Some of these are formatted slightl=
y=C2=A0differently than others and require a seperate audio codec. plus the=
 TV has only 1 USB port. After posting questions to a worldwide media list =
I&#39;ve been on since the late &#39;90s when I built my first digital A/V =
editing system, the consensus was that I needed a &quot;media player&quot; =
to connect the two hard drives to the TV, so I ordered a MyPin M29 media pl=
ayer, $60 from Amazon. It supported the file formats I needed, but it would=
n&#39;t let me turn off subtitles/closed captioning (bummer) and I get freq=
uent, subtle &quot;stuttering&quot; in the audio (MAJOR bummer). If I plugg=
ed the 4K hard drive into either my Mac or PC and used VLC, everything work=
ed fine, but I want to watch these movies on the 55 inch in our bedroom. An=
 added problem was that the output of the MyPin player=C2=A0is HDMI and I w=
as already out of HDMI ports on the TV. So, after several discussions with =
several folks, I ordered a Lenovo M75 Tiny mini PC and plan to run Plex ser=
ver as the core of a home media server down the road. The hard drives plug =
into it, and there&#39;s plenty of room for expansion.<br></div><div><br></=
div><div>Now, how to get these additional souces into the TV? While working=
 to connect all of these input devices I noticed that TESmart has a 4 x 1 H=
DMI switch. I&#39;m using one of their KVM switches to let me control a cou=
ple of Macs and a PC with a single keyboard and mouse for some time and it =
works great. I sent their tech folks a note describing my issues with 4K an=
d they said try it. The switch was $25 and they offer a 30 day return. Unfo=
rtunately it won&#39;t work with 4K so it&#39;s going back next week. After=
 talking to a Ford AV systems engineer in Austin that I&#39;ve worked with =
before, I ordered a Monoprice (31057) switch/scaler that Monoprice promises=
 will do what I need. It, too, has a 30 return.</div><div><br></div><div>So=
rry if i&#39;ve been a bit long winded but setting up all of these boxe to =
work together, especially with 4K is a bit complex. The reason I&#39;m goin=
g through all of this detail is that if anyone&#39;s not doing 4K video, al=
l of the simpler routing and switching should work fine. However, if you ha=
ve ANY thoughts of going to 4K, plan for that now. Hopefully I can save oth=
er folks some blood, sweat &amp; tears!</div><div><br></div><div>RD</div><d=
iv><br></div><div></div></div><br></blockquote></div></div><br><br></blockq=
uote></div><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br></blockquote></div></div>
</blockquote></div>

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