Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor

From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 14:39:24 -0700

One more option I’ve added to the list:

Ingersoll Rand SS5L5 (from Northern Tool)

This is a 5 HP unit, and a little more expensive than the other options.  I don’t think I need that much compressor, but if it might be more reliable, certainly worth considering.

-Darrell

> On Aug 7, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Darrell Walker <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m in the market for a compressor.  I’m looking for about 10 CFM at 90 psi.
> 
> I actually have an Eastwood scroll compressor on backorder, but I’m getting anxious, and thinking about other things to spend the price difference on.  I do like that the scroll compressor is very quiet, though.
> 
> I’ve looked at four possibilities, all much cheaper than the Eastwood:
> 
> 	Husky 60 gallon (from Home Depot)
> 	Kobalt 60 gallon (from Lowes)
> 	Puma PK-6060 (from Amazon)
> 	Campbell Hausfeld VT6195 (from Grizzly)
> 
> The Husky and Kobalt are very close in price, the Puma and CH are a bit more.
> 
> The Kobalt is dual-stage, the rest are single stage (but dual cylinder), but all meet my expected air requirements.
> 
> I believe the Kobalt is made by CH, though it is not the same as the CH model I’m looking at.
> 
> Any experience or comments on any of these choices?  Anything else I ought to look at in a similar range?
> 
> Thanks,
> Darrell
> 
> -- 
> Darrell Walker
> 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L
> 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206
> Vancouver, WA, USA
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I have a CH VT6195 that is now 25 years old, runs and looks like new. Still
has the original belt after hundreds of hours of use.

The only repair I have had to make is the limit switch replacement about
5 years ago.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 2:22 PM Darrell Walker <[email-masked]> wrote:

>
> I=E2=80=99m in the market for a compressor.  I=E2=80=99m looking for abou=
t 10 CFM at 90
> psi.
>
> I actually have an Eastwood scroll compressor on backorder, but I=E2=80=
=99m
> getting anxious, and thinking about other things to spend the price
> difference on.  I do like that the scroll compressor is very quiet, thoug=
h.
>
> I=E2=80=99ve looked at four possibilities, all much cheaper than the East=
wood:
> The Kobalt is dual-stage, the rest are single stage (but dual cylinder),
> but all meet my expected air requirements.
>
> I believe the Kobalt is made by CH, though it is not the same as the CH
> model I=E2=80=99m looking at.
>
> Any experience or comments on any of these choices?  Anything else I ough=
t
> to look at in a similar range?
>
> Thanks,
> Darrell
>
> --
> Darrell Walker
> 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L
> 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206
> Vancouver, WA, USA
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have a CH VT6195=C2=A0that is now 25 years old, runs and=
 looks like new. Still has the original belt after hundreds of hours of use=
.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>The only repair I have had to make is the limit =
switch replacement=C2=A0about 5=C2=A0years ago.

</div><div><img src=3D"cid:ii_kdkrpf840" alt=3D"IMG_20200807_144252.jpg" wi=
dth=3D"422" height=3D"562"><br></div><div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 2:22=
 PM Darrell Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">darrellw360@m=
ac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
:1ex"><br>
I=E2=80=99m in the market for a compressor.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m looking for a=
bout 10 CFM at 90 psi.<br>
<br>
I actually have an Eastwood scroll compressor on backorder, but I=E2=80=99m=
 getting anxious, and thinking about other things to spend the price differ=
ence on.=C2=A0 I do like that the scroll compressor is very quiet, though.<=
br>
<br>
I=E2=80=99ve looked at four possibilities, all much cheaper than the Eastwo=
od:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Husky 60 gallon (from Home Depot)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Kobalt 60 gallon (from Lowes)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Puma PK-6060 (from Amazon)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Campbell Hausfeld VT6195 (from Grizzly)<br>
<br>
The Husky and Kobalt are very close in price, the Puma and CH are a bit mor=
e.<br>
<br>
The Kobalt is dual-stage, the rest are single stage (but dual cylinder), bu=
t all meet my expected air requirements.<br>
<br>
I believe the Kobalt is made by CH, though it is not the same as the CH mod=
el I=E2=80=99m looking at.<br>
<br>
Any experience or comments on any of these choices?=C2=A0 Anything else I o=
ught to look at in a similar range?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Darrell<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Darrell Walker<br>
66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L<br>
81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206<br>
Vancouver, WA, USA<br>
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I have an 80 gallon Porter Cable single stage that is 12 years old. It is f=
ine for small jobs and tools but runs constantly when I use my blast cabine=
t or any sort of tool that runs a lot like a sander, polisher, die grinder =
etc. It is also pretty loud but I've had no problems with it other the how =
hot it gets. (I really need to move my blast cabinet away from the tank!)

I don't know what a "scroll compressor" is but assume it's better than my s=
ingle stage.

Buy a two stage if you can afford it (unless the scroll type does the same =
thing).

tim

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From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Darrell Wal=
ker <[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 4:21 PM
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor

I=92m in the market for a compressor.  I=92m looking for about 10 CFM at 90=
 psi.

I actually have an Eastwood scroll compressor on backorder, but I=92m getti=
ng anxious, and thinking about other things to spend the price difference o=
n.  I do like that the scroll compressor is very quiet, though.

I=92ve looked at four possibilities, all much cheaper than the Eastwood:

e.

The Kobalt is dual-stage, the rest are single stage (but dual cylinder), bu=
t all meet my expected air requirements.

el I=92m looking at.

Any experience or comments on any of these choices?  Anything else I ought =
to look at in a similar range?

Thanks,
Darrell

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66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L
81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206
Vancouver, WA, USA

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I have an 80 gallon Porter Cable single stage that is 12 years old. It is f=
ine for small jobs and tools but runs constantly when I use my blast cabine=
t or any sort of tool that runs a lot like a sander, polisher, die grinder =
etc. It is also pretty loud but
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I don't know what a &quot;scroll compressor&quot; is but assume it's better=
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Buy a two stage if you can afford it (unless the scroll type does the same =
thing).&nbsp;</div>
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I=92m in the market for a compressor.&nbsp; I=92m looking for about 10 CFM =
at 90 psi.<br>
<br>
I actually have an Eastwood scroll compressor on backorder, but I=92m getti=
ng anxious, and thinking about other things to spend the price difference o=
n.&nbsp; I do like that the scroll compressor is very quiet, though.<br>
<br>
I=92ve looked at four possibilities, all much cheaper than the Eastwood:<br=
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Husky 60 gallon (from Home Depot=
)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Kobalt 60 gallon (from Lowes)<br=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Puma PK-6060 (from Amazon)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Campbell Hausfeld VT6195 (from G=
rizzly)<br>
<br>
The Husky and Kobalt are very close in price, the Puma and CH are a bit mor=
e.<br>
<br>
The Kobalt is dual-stage, the rest are single stage (but dual cylinder), bu=
t all meet my expected air requirements.<br>
<br>
I believe the Kobalt is made by CH, though it is not the same as the CH mod=
el I=92m looking at.<br>
<br>
Any experience or comments on any of these choices?&nbsp; Anything else I o=
ught to look at in a similar range?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Darrell<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Darrell Walker<br>
66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L<br>
81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206<br>
Vancouver, WA, USA<br>
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From: "Steve Hammatt, Mount Vernon WA USA" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:25:09 -0700

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I have a very similar looking machine, also about 25 years old.
My wife said she wanted to take me shopping for a birthday present.
This is highly unusual.  Apparently she a noticed that I=E2=80=99d been=20
research compressors.  Anyway I led the way to the local=20
Grainger Store.  (I already knew what one I wanted).  We walked=20
in the door and I steered her over to the display model and mentioned=20
that =E2=80=9Cthis was the one=E2=80=9D.  She was shocked.....she had no =
idea of what=20
to expect, in fact she said =E2=80=9CI thought it was something about =
the size=20
of a bread box=E2=80=9D.  Anyway, it=E2=80=99s been trouble free, and =
just getting hooked=20
up again at the new house.
Also, the one we purchased was the prior year=E2=80=99s model but I =
wanted it=20
because it was the last one of that size (two pistons, 50 (60?) gallon)=20
with a CAST IRON compressor. =20

Steve Hammatt
Mount Vernon WA USA
www.leatherplates.com

From: old dirtbeard=20
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 2:55 PM
Cc: [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor
I have a CH VT6195 that is now 25 years old, runs and looks like new. =
Still has the original belt after hundreds of hours of use. =20

The only repair I have had to make is the limit switch replacement about =
5 years ago.=20

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 2:22 PM Darrell Walker <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

  I=E2=80=99m in the market for a compressor.  I=E2=80=99m looking for =
about 10 CFM at 90 psi.

  I actually have an Eastwood scroll compressor on backorder, but =
I=E2=80=99m getting anxious, and thinking about other things to spend =
the price difference on.  I do like that the scroll compressor is very =
quiet, though.

  I=E2=80=99ve looked at four possibilities, all much cheaper than the =
Eastwood:

  The Husky and Kobalt are very close in price, the Puma and CH are a =
bit more.

  The Kobalt is dual-stage, the rest are single stage (but dual =
cylinder), but all meet my expected air requirements.

  I believe the Kobalt is made by CH, though it is not the same as the =
CH model I=E2=80=99m looking at.

  Any experience or comments on any of these choices?  Anything else I =
ought to look at in a similar range?

  Thanks,
  Darrell

  --=20
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  66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L
  81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206
  Vancouver, WA, USA

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<DIV>I have a very similar looking machine, also about 25 years =
old.</DIV>
<DIV>My wife said she wanted to take me shopping for a birthday =
present.</DIV>
<DIV>This is highly unusual.&nbsp; Apparently she a noticed that =
I=E2=80=99d been </DIV>
<DIV>research compressors.&nbsp; Anyway I led the way to the local =
</DIV>
<DIV>Grainger Store.&nbsp; (I already knew what one I wanted).&nbsp; We =
walked=20
</DIV>
<DIV>in the door and I steered her over to the display model and =
mentioned=20
</DIV>
<DIV>that =E2=80=9Cthis was the one=E2=80=9D.&nbsp; She was =
shocked.....she had no idea of what=20
</DIV>
<DIV>to expect, in fact she said =E2=80=9CI thought it was something =
about the size=20
</DIV>
<DIV>of a bread box=E2=80=9D.&nbsp; Anyway, it=E2=80=99s been trouble =
free, and just getting=20
hooked </DIV>
<DIV>up again at the new house.</DIV>
<DIV>Also, the one we purchased was the prior year=E2=80=99s model but I =
wanted it=20
</DIV>
<DIV>because it was the last one of that size (two pistons, 50 (60?) =
gallon)=20
</DIV>
<DIV>with a CAST IRON compressor.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 7, 2020 2:55 PM</DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>I have a CH VT6195 that is now 25 years old, runs and =
looks like=20
new. Still has the original belt after hundreds of hours of use.&nbsp;=20
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The only repair I have had to make is the limit switch replacement =
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MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex"><BR>I=E2=80=99m=20
  in the market for a compressor.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m looking for about 10 =
CFM at 90=20
  psi.<BR><BR>I actually have an Eastwood scroll compressor on =
backorder, but=20
  I=E2=80=99m getting anxious, and thinking about other things to spend =
the price=20
  difference on.&nbsp; I do like that the scroll compressor is very =
quiet,=20
  though.<BR><BR>I=E2=80=99ve looked at four possibilities, all much =
cheaper than the=20
  Eastwood:<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Husky 60 =
gallon=20
  (from Home Depot)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Kobalt =
60=20
  gallon (from Lowes)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Puma =
PK-6060=20
  (from Amazon)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Campbell =
Hausfeld=20
  VT6195 (from Grizzly)<BR><BR>The Husky and Kobalt are very close in =
price, the=20
  Puma and CH are a bit more.<BR><BR>The Kobalt is dual-stage, the rest =
are=20
  single stage (but dual cylinder), but all meet my expected air=20
  requirements.<BR><BR>I believe the Kobalt is made by CH, though it is =
not the=20
  same as the CH model I=E2=80=99m looking at.<BR><BR>Any experience or =
comments on any=20
  of these choices?&nbsp; Anything else I ought to look at in a similar=20
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From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2020 08:44:53 -0700

Well, I think I’ve narrowed the candidates.  I dropped the Ingersoll Rand after Miq sent me a YouTube video from a guy that has two motors fail, and more Googling seemed to indicate this is a common problem.

I’ve replaced the top end of the pool with the Quincy QT54.  Almost every review on this is positive, and it is more compressor than I’ll ever need.  It is about double the Kobalt in price, which isn’t that much of a deal for me, but it does weigh in at 475 lbs, so I’m not sure I could wrestle it into place.

I think it will be between that one and the Kobalt from Lowes.  The Kobalt should be plenty of air for my needs, but reviews are mixed, and apparently customer service is awful.

BTW, this is replacing a Craftsman 12 gallon, advertised at 3 HP, but being a 110V unit, that seems optimistic at best.

-Darrell

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I've got a Kobalt that looks like the 60 gallon they currently sell.
Though it may have little relevance to today, I've had mine for about ten
years and it's worked fine for my occasional shop puttering.   I've
sometimes left it switched on for a week at a time so the neighbors can
enjoy it every time the hoses leak down, and it's always run fine.

Just remember when you're unloading it with the engine crane - it's top
heavy and you've slung it below the center of gravity.  You may find out
too late that this is relevant.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 11:45 AM Darrell Walker <[email-masked]> wrote:

>
> Well, I think I=E2=80=99ve narrowed the candidates.  I dropped the Ingers=
oll Rand
> after Miq sent me a YouTube video from a guy that has two motors fail, an=
d
> more Googling seemed to indicate this is a common problem.
>
> I=E2=80=99ve replaced the top end of the pool with the Quincy QT54.  Almo=
st every
> review on this is positive, and it is more compressor than I=E2=80=99ll e=
ver need.
> It is about double the Kobalt in price, which isn=E2=80=99t that much of =
a deal for
> me, but it does weigh in at 475 lbs, so I=E2=80=99m not sure I could wres=
tle it
> into place.
>
> I think it will be between that one and the Kobalt from Lowes.  The Kobal=
t
> should be plenty of air for my needs, but reviews are mixed, and apparent=
ly
> customer service is awful.
>
> BTW, this is replacing a Craftsman 12 gallon, advertised at 3 HP, but
> being a 110V unit, that seems optimistic at best.
>
> -Darrell
>
> --
> Darrell Walker
> 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L
> 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206
> Vancouver, WA, USA
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve got a Kobalt that looks like the 60 gallon they c=
urrently sell.=C2=A0 Though it may have little relevance to today, I&#39;ve=
 had mine for about ten years and it&#39;s worked fine for my occasional sh=
op puttering.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I&#39;ve sometimes left it switched on for a week=
 at a time so the neighbors can enjoy it every time the hoses leak down, an=
d it&#39;s always=C2=A0run fine.<div><br></div><div>Just remember=C2=A0when=
 you&#39;re unloading it with the engine crane - it&#39;s top heavy and you=
&#39;ve slung it below the center of gravity.=C2=A0 You may find out too la=
te that this is relevant.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 11:45 AM Darrell Walk=
er &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Well, I think I=E2=80=99ve narrowed the candidates.=C2=A0 I dropped the Ing=
ersoll Rand after Miq sent me a YouTube video from a guy that has two motor=
s fail, and more Googling seemed to indicate this is a common problem.<br>
<br>
I=E2=80=99ve replaced the top end of the pool with the Quincy QT54.=C2=A0 A=
lmost every review on this is positive, and it is more compressor than I=E2=
=80=99ll ever need.=C2=A0 It is about double the Kobalt in price, which isn=
=E2=80=99t that much of a deal for me, but it does weigh in at 475 lbs, so =
I=E2=80=99m not sure I could wrestle it into place.<br>
<br>
I think it will be between that one and the Kobalt from Lowes.=C2=A0 The Ko=
balt should be plenty of air for my needs, but reviews are mixed, and appar=
ently customer service is awful.<br>
<br>
BTW, this is replacing a Craftsman 12 gallon, advertised at 3 HP, but being=
 a 110V unit, that seems optimistic at best.<br>
<br>
-Darrell<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Darrell Walker<br>
66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L<br>
81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206<br>
Vancouver, WA, USA<br>
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From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 17:14:27 -0700

I thought I’d update you all on my compressor search.  I purchased the Kobalt 60 gallon, two-stage from Lowe’s.  It mostly came down to the weight of the Quincy unit, not sure I could handle a nearly 500 lb compressor, and getting anyone to help is problematic.

Now I’m researching after-coolers.  I’ve found several ideal using a transmission cooler.  I understand that putting it between the compressor and the tank is most effective, but I’m a little hesitant to start re-plumbing my brand new compressor.  So I may install it on the outflow.  I’ve seen other designs using a series of pipe loops, but space is a bit of concern, so the transmission cooler with a fan to cool is more inline with what I can install.

Any thoughts or experience on aftercoolers would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Darrell

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From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:20:54 -0400

What are you trying to accomplish with the aftercooler?

If it is to get water/vapor out of the compressed air, consider using iron pipe for distribution. The pipe should cool down the water vaper and allow it to condense and flow to a low point for removal.

----------------
All the best,

Al Fuller

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From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Darrell Walker
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 8:14 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor

Thanks,
Darrell

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From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 17:07:29 -0700

Yes, the objective is to reduce moisture.  I don’t have a lot of space for long runs of iron pipe, so I’m looking at using a transmission radiator.

The compressor arrived today (one advantage of getting it from Lowes, they had some in stock).  And the delivery guys even put it into the garage for me (gave them a nice tip since I didn’t have to drag it up the driveway).

My wife’s reaction was similar to what someone else reported, “that’s big”.

-Darrell

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 1:20 PM, <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 

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 What are your plans for getting rid of the water?=C2=A0 Most dryers have s=
ome sort of drain, either float actuated or a timer/solenoid valve set-up.=
=C2=A0 But will the transmission coolers self-drain?
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From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor

Yes, the objective is to reduce moisture.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t have a lot =
of space for long runs of iron pipe, so I=E2=80=99m looking at using a tran=
smission radiator.

The compressor arrived today (one advantage of getting it from Lowes, they =
had some in stock).=C2=A0 And the delivery guys even put it into the garage=
 for me (gave them a nice tip since I didn=E2=80=99t have to drag it up the=
 driveway).

My wife=E2=80=99s reaction was similar to what someone else reported, =E2=
=80=9Cthat=E2=80=99s big=E2=80=9D.

-Darrell

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 1:20 PM, <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]=
om> wrote:
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> If it is to get water/vapor out of the compressed air, consider using iro=
n pipe for distribution. The pipe should cool down the water vaper and allo=
w it to condense and flow to a low point for removal.
>=20
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> From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Darrell W=
alker
>=20
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> I thought I=E2=80=99d update you all on my compressor search.=C2=A0 I pur=
chased the Kobalt 60 gallon, two-stage from Lowe=E2=80=99s.=C2=A0 It mostly=
 came down to the weight of the Quincy unit, not sure I could handle a near=
ly 500 lb compressor, and getting anyone to help is problematic.
>=20
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al ideal using a transmission cooler.=C2=A0 I understand that putting it be=
tween the compressor and the tank is most effective, but I=E2=80=99m a litt=
le hesitant to start re-plumbing my brand new compressor.=C2=A0 So I may in=
stall it on the outflow.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve seen other designs using a seri=
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sp; Most dryers have some sort of drain, either float actuated or a timer/s=
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To: [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:07 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">Yes, the objective is to reduce moistur=
e.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=99t have a lot of space for long runs of iron pipe, so=
 I=E2=80=99m looking at using a transmission radiator.<br clear=3D"none"><b=
r clear=3D"none">The compressor arrived today (one advantage of getting it =
from Lowes, they had some in stock).&nbsp; And the delivery guys even put i=
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to drag it up the driveway).<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">My wife=
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t=E2=80=99s big=E2=80=9D.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-Darrell<br =
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t is to get water/vapor out of the compressed air, consider using iron pipe=
 for distribution. The pipe should cool down the water vaper and allow it t=
o condense and flow to a low point for removal.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br =
clear=3D"none">&gt; ----------------<br clear=3D"none">&gt; All the best,<b=
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update you all on my compressor search.&nbsp; I purchased the Kobalt 60 gal=
lon, two-stage from Lowe=E2=80=99s.&nbsp; It mostly came down to the weight=
 of the Quincy unit, not sure I could handle a nearly 500 lb compressor, an=
d getting anyone to help is problematic.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=
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e found several ideal using a transmission cooler.&nbsp; I understand that =
putting it between the compressor and the tank is most effective, but I=E2=
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p; So I may install it on the outflow.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve seen other design=
s using a series of pipe loops, but space is a bit of concern, so the trans=
mission cooler with a fan to cool is more inline with what I can install.<b=
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I plan to have the output of the radiator exit down, with a tee.  I=E2=80=99=
m going to put a drip leg, then take the air out of the side of the tee. =
 That will feed into my filter/moisture separator, hopefully the liquid =
will run down into the drip leg.

I=E2=80=99ll post pictures and results when I get it all plumbed.

-Darrell

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 6:00 PM, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:
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set-up.  But will the transmission coolers self-drain?
> Yes, the objective is to reduce moisture.  I don=E2=80=99t have a lot =
of space for long runs of iron pipe, so I=E2=80=99m looking at using a =
transmission radiator.
>=20
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it up the driveway).
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> My wife=E2=80=99s reaction was similar to what someone else reported, =
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> -Darrell
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vaper and allow it to condense and flow to a low point for removal.
> > From: Shop-talk <[email-masked] =
> > I thought I=E2=80=99d update you all on my compressor search.  I =
purchased the Kobalt 60 gallon, two-stage from Lowe=E2=80=99s.  It =
mostly came down to the weight of the Quincy unit, not sure I could =
handle a nearly 500 lb compressor, and getting anyone to help is =
problematic.
> >=20
> > Now I=E2=80=99m researching after-coolers.  I=E2=80=99ve found =
several ideal using a transmission cooler.  I understand that putting it =
between the compressor and the tank is most effective, but I=E2=80=99m a =
little hesitant to start re-plumbing my brand new compressor.  So I may =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>I plan to have the output of the =
radiator exit down, with a tee. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99m going to put a drip =
leg, then take the air out of the side of the tee. &nbsp;That will feed =
into my filter/moisture separator, hopefully the liquid will run down =
into the drip leg.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ll post pictures and results when I get it all =
plumbed.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">-Darrell<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug 11, 2020, at 6:00 PM, =
DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: =
normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
<div class=3D""> <font size=3D"3" class=3D"">What are your plans for =
getting rid of the water?&nbsp; Most dryers have some sort of drain, =
either float actuated or a timer/solenoid valve set-up.&nbsp; But will =
the transmission coolers self-drain?</font><br class=3D"">
</div>

<div class=3D""> <br class=3D"">
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<div style=3D"clear:both" class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">Dave =
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<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"">
From: Darrell Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D"">
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:07 pm<br class=3D"">
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">

<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">Yes, the =
objective is to reduce moisture.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=99t have a lot of =
space for long runs of iron pipe, so I=E2=80=99m looking at using a =
transmission radiator.<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">The compressor arrived today (one advantage of getting it =
from Lowes, they had some in stock).&nbsp; And the delivery guys even =
put it into the garage for me (gave them a nice tip since I didn=E2=80=99t=
 have to drag it up the driveway).<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"">My wife=E2=80=99s reaction was similar to what =
someone else reported, =E2=80=9Cthat=E2=80=99s big=E2=80=9D.<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">-Darrell<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"yqt5563679320" id=3D"yqtfd43043"><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">&gt; On Aug 11, 2020, at 1:20 PM, &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">&gt; <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; What are you trying =
to accomplish with the aftercooler?<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; =
<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; If it is to get water/vapor out of =
the compressed air, consider using iron pipe for distribution. The pipe =
should cool down the water vaper and allow it to condense and flow to a =
low point for removal.<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; <br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; ----------------<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">&gt; All the best,<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; <br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; Al Fuller<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt;=
 <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; -----Original Message-----<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; From: Shop-talk &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Darrell =
Walker<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 =
8:14 PM<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; To: <a shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; =
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">&gt; <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; <br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">&gt; I thought I=E2=80=99d update you all on my compressor =
search.&nbsp; I purchased the Kobalt 60 gallon, two-stage from =
Lowe=E2=80=99s.&nbsp; It mostly came down to the weight of the Quincy =
unit, not sure I could handle a nearly 500 lb compressor, and getting =
anyone to help is problematic.<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; <br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; Now I=E2=80=99m researching =
after-coolers.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve found several ideal using a =
transmission cooler.&nbsp; I understand that putting it between the =
compressor and the tank is most effective, but I=E2=80=99m a little =
hesitant to start re-plumbing my brand new compressor.&nbsp; So I may =
install it on the outflow.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve seen other designs using a =
series of pipe loops, but space is a bit of concern, so the transmission =
cooler with a fan to cool is more inline with what I can install.<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; Any =
thoughts or experience on aftercoolers would be appreciated!<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; <br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; =
Thanks,<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; Darrell<br clear=3D"none" =
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 01:24:42 +0000 (UTC)

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 Cool.=C2=A0 You'll need to drain the drip leg periodically, it will fill u=
p pretty quickly.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor

I plan to have the output of the radiator exit down, with a tee. =C2=A0I=E2=
=80=99m going to put a drip leg, then take the air out of the side of the t=
ee. =C2=A0That will feed into my filter/moisture separator, hopefully the l=
iquid will run down into the drip leg.
I=E2=80=99ll post pictures and results when I get it all plumbed.
-Darrell

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor

-Darrell

alker
chive
[email-masked]

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<div> <font size=3D"3">Cool.&nbsp; You'll need to drain the drip leg period=
ically, it will fill up pretty quickly.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: Darrell Walker &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"yiv2268253414">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none"></d=
iv>
I plan to have the output of the radiator exit down, with a tee. &nbsp;I=E2=
=80=99m going to put a drip leg, then take the air out of the side of the t=
ee. &nbsp;That will feed into my filter/moisture separator, hopefully the l=
iquid will run down into the drip leg.
<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414">I=E2=80=99ll post pictures and results when I =
get it all plumbed.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none"></d=
iv>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414">-Darrell<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"n=
one">
<div class=3D"yiv2268253414yqt4516896867" id=3D"yiv2268253414yqt91439">
<div><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv226=
8253414" type=3D"cite">
<div class=3D"yiv2268253414">On Aug 11, 2020, at 6:00 PM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;=
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2268253414" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"yiv2268253414Apple-interchange-newline" clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv2268253414">

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414" style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;=
font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, He=
lvetica, sans-serif;">

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"> <font class=3D"yiv2268253414" size=3D"3">What=
 are your plans for getting rid of the water?&nbsp; Most dryers have some s=
ort of drain, either float actuated or a timer/solenoid valve set-up.&nbsp;=
 But will the transmission coolers self-drain?</font><br class=3D"yiv226825=
3414" clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"> <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414" style=3D"clear:both;"><font class=3D"yiv226825=
3414" size=3D"4">Dave </font><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"> <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"> <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414" style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-siz=
e:10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"non=
e">
From: Darrell Walker &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv226=
8253414" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"yiv22682=
53414" clear=3D"none">
To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2268253414" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@=
autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" cle=
ar=3D"none">
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:07 pm<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor<br class=3D"yiv2268253=
414" clear=3D"none">
<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414" dir=3D"ltr"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=
=3D"none">Yes, the objective is to reduce moisture.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=99t h=
ave a lot of space for long runs of iron pipe, so I=E2=80=99m looking at us=
ing a transmission radiator.<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none"><br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">The compressor arrived today (one ad=
vantage of getting it from Lowes, they had some in stock).&nbsp; And the de=
livery guys even put it into the garage for me (gave them a nice tip since =
I didn=E2=80=99t have to drag it up the driveway).<br class=3D"yiv226825341=
4" clear=3D"none"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">My wife=E2=80=
=99s reaction was similar to what someone else reported, =E2=80=9Cthat=E2=
=80=99s big=E2=80=9D.<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none"><br class=
=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">-Darrell<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=
=3D"none">

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414yqt5563679320" id=3D"yiv2268253414yqtfd43043"><b=
r class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; On Aug 11, 2020, at 1:20 PM, =
&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2268253414" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@g=
mail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"re=
ct" class=3D"yiv2268253414" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv=
2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; What are you trying to accomplish with the =
aftercooler?<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yi=
v2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; If it is to get water/vapor out of the com=
pressed air, consider using iron pipe for distribution. The pipe should coo=
l down the water vaper and allow it to condense and flow to a low point for=
 removal.<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv22=
68253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; ----------------<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" c=
lear=3D"none">&gt; All the best,<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">=
&gt; <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; Al Fuller<br class=3D"=
yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"non=
e">&gt; -----Original Message-----<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none=
">&gt; From: Shop-talk &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2=
268253414" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">shop-talk-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Darrell Walker<br class=3D"yiv2268253414"=
 clear=3D"none">&gt; Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 8:14 PM<br class=3D"yiv2=
268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=
=3D"yiv2268253414" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Lo=
oking to buy a compressor<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <b=
r class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" c=
lear=3D"none">&gt; I thought I=E2=80=99d update you all on my compressor se=
arch.&nbsp; I purchased the Kobalt 60 gallon, two-stage from Lowe=E2=80=99s=
.&nbsp; It mostly came down to the weight of the Quincy unit, not sure I co=
uld handle a nearly 500 lb compressor, and getting anyone to help is proble=
matic.<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv22682=
53414" clear=3D"none">&gt; Now I=E2=80=99m researching after-coolers.&nbsp;=
 I=E2=80=99ve found several ideal using a transmission cooler.&nbsp; I unde=
rstand that putting it between the compressor and the tank is most effectiv=
e, but I=E2=80=99m a little hesitant to start re-plumbing my brand new comp=
ressor.&nbsp; So I may install it on the outflow.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve seen o=
ther designs using a series of pipe loops, but space is a bit of concern, s=
o the transmission cooler with a fan to cool is more inline with what I can=
 install.<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv22=
68253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; Any thoughts or experience on aftercoolers wo=
uld be appreciated!<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clas=
s=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; Thanks,<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; Darrell<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; =
<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv2268253414"=
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From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 19:12:56 -0700

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Yes, I=E2=80=99m planning to put all of the things to drain in the same =
area, so hopefully I=E2=80=99ll do that regularly.

-Darrell

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 6:24 PM, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Cool.  You'll need to drain the drip leg periodically, it will fill up =
pretty quickly.
> I plan to have the output of the radiator exit down, with a tee.  =
I=E2=80=99m going to put a drip leg, then take the air out of the side =
of the tee.  That will feed into my filter/moisture separator, hopefully =
the liquid will run down into the drip leg.
>> On Aug 11, 2020, at 6:00 PM, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked] =
>>=20
>> From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked] =

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Yes, I=E2=80=99m planning to put all of =
the things to drain in the same area, so hopefully I=E2=80=99ll do that =
regularly.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">-Darrell<br=
 class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Aug 11, 2020, at 6:24 PM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: =
normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
<div class=3D""> <font size=3D"3" class=3D"">Cool.&nbsp; You'll need to =
drain the drip leg periodically, it will fill up pretty =
quickly.</font><br class=3D"">
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"">
From: Darrell Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm<br class=3D"">
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">

<div id=3D"yiv2268253414" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none"></div>
I plan to have the output of the radiator exit down, with a tee. =
&nbsp;I=E2=80=99m going to put a drip leg, then take the air out of the =
side of the tee. &nbsp;That will feed into my filter/moisture separator, =
hopefully the liquid will run down into the drip leg.
<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none"></div>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414">I=E2=80=99ll post pictures and results when =
I get it all plumbed.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none"></div>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414">-Darrell<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv2268253414yqt4516896867" id=3D"yiv2268253414yqt91439">
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none"><blockquote =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" type=3D"cite">
<div class=3D"yiv2268253414">On Aug 11, 2020, at 6:00 PM, DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"yiv2268253414Apple-interchange-newline" clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv2268253414">

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
style=3D"font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-siz=
e:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414"> <font class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
size=3D"3">What are your plans for getting rid of the water?&nbsp; Most =
dryers have some sort of drain, either float actuated or a =
timer/solenoid valve set-up.&nbsp; But will the transmission coolers =
self-drain?</font><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414" style=3D"clear:both;"><font =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" size=3D"4">Dave </font><br class=3D"yiv2268253414"=
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<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
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<div class=3D"yiv2268253414" style=3D"font-family:arial, =
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From: Darrell Walker &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br =
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Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:07 pm<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">=

Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor<br =
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<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">

<div class=3D"yiv2268253414" dir=3D"ltr"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">Yes, the objective is to reduce moisture.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=
=99t have a lot of space for long runs of iron pipe, so I=E2=80=99m =
looking at using a transmission radiator.<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">The compressor =
arrived today (one advantage of getting it from Lowes, they had some in =
stock).&nbsp; And the delivery guys even put it into the garage for me =
(gave them a nice tip since I didn=E2=80=99t have to drag it up the =
driveway).<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none"><br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">My wife=E2=80=99s reaction was =
similar to what someone else reported, =E2=80=9Cthat=E2=80=99s =
big=E2=80=9D.<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none"><br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">-Darrell<br class=3D"yiv2268253414"=
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<div class=3D"yiv2268253414yqt5563679320" =
id=3D"yiv2268253414yqtfd43043"><br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; On Aug 11, 2020, at 1:20 PM, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" =
shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
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wrote:<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; What are you trying to =
accomplish with the aftercooler?<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; If =
it is to get water/vapor out of the compressed air, consider using iron =
pipe for distribution. The pipe should cool down the water vaper and =
allow it to condense and flow to a low point for removal.<br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; ----------------<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; All the best,<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; Al =
Fuller<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; -----Original =
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Looking to buy a compressor<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt;=
 <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; <br =
class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; I thought I=E2=80=99d update =
you all on my compressor search.&nbsp; I purchased the Kobalt 60 gallon, =
two-stage from Lowe=E2=80=99s.&nbsp; It mostly came down to the weight =
of the Quincy unit, not sure I could handle a nearly 500 lb compressor, =
and getting anyone to help is problematic.<br class=3D"yiv2268253414" =
clear=3D"none">&gt; <br class=3D"yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">&gt; Now =
I=E2=80=99m researching after-coolers.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve found several =
ideal using a transmission cooler.&nbsp; I understand that putting it =
between the compressor and the tank is most effective, but I=E2=80=99m a =
little hesitant to start re-plumbing my brand new compressor.&nbsp; So I =
may install it on the outflow.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve seen other designs =
using a series of pipe loops, but space is a bit of concern, so the =
transmission cooler with a fan to cool is more inline with what I can =
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I don't know if you use one of the automatic drains, but if you do and your=
 transmission cooler is near the compressor, you could plumb the drip leg a=
nd the compressor tank drain together and the automatic drain would take ca=
re of them both.

Brian
Nampa, ID

Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:12 PM

Yes, I=92m planning to put all of the things to drain in the same area, so =
hopefully I=92ll do that regularly.

-Darrell

[email-masked]>> wrote:

Cool.  You'll need to drain the drip leg periodically, it will fill up pret=
ty quickly.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor

I plan to have the output of the radiator exit down, with a tee.  I=92m goi=
ng to put a drip leg, then take the air out of the side of the tee.  That w=
ill feed into my filter/moisture separator, hopefully the liquid will run d=
own into the drip leg.

I=92ll post pictures and results when I get it all plumbed.

-Darrell

[email-masked]>> wrote:

What are your plans for getting rid of the water?  Most dryers have some so=
rt of drain, either float actuated or a timer/solenoid valve set-up.  But w=
ill the transmission coolers self-drain?

Dave

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor

Yes, the objective is to reduce moisture.  I don=92t have a lot of space fo=
r long runs of iron pipe, so I=92m looking at using a transmission radiator=
.

The compressor arrived today (one advantage of getting it from Lowes, they =
had some in stock).  And the delivery guys even put it into the garage for =
me (gave them a nice tip since I didn=92t have to drag it up the driveway).

My wife=92s reaction was similar to what someone else reported, =93that=92s=
 big=94.

-Darrell

[email-masked]>> On Behalf Of Darrell Walker
> I thought I=92d update you all on my compressor search.  I purchased the =
Kobalt 60 gallon, two-stage from Lowe=92s.  It mostly came down to the weig=
ht of the Quincy unit, not sure I could handle a nearly 500 lb compressor, =
and getting anyone to help is problematic.
>
> Now I=92m researching after-coolers.  I=92ve found several ideal using a =
transmission cooler.  I understand that putting it between the compressor a=
nd the tank is most effective, but I=92m a little hesitant to start re-plum=
bing my brand new compressor.  So I may install it on the outflow.  I=92ve =
seen other designs using a series of pipe loops, but space is a bit of conc=
ern, so the transmission cooler with a fan to cool is more inline with what=
 I can install.
chive
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I don't know if you use one of the automatic drains, but if you do and your=
 transmission cooler is near the compressor, you could plumb the drip leg a=
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[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Darrell Walker &lt;darrellw360@m=
ac.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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Yes, I=92m planning to put all of the things to drain in the same area, so =
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ilto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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<div class=3D""><font size=3D"3" class=3D"">Cool.&nbsp; You'll need to drai=
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From: Darrell Walker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">dave1=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">Shop-talk@autox.=
team.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">Sho=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm<br class=3D"">
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to buy a compressor<br class=3D"">
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I plan to have the output of the radiator exit down, with a tee. &nbsp;I=92=
m going to put a drip leg, then take the air out of the side of the tee. &n=
bsp;That will feed into my filter/moisture separator, hopefully the liquid =
will run down into the drip leg.
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<div class=3D"x_yiv2268253414">I=92ll post pictures and results when I get =
it all plumbed.</div>
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<div class=3D"x_yiv2268253414">On Aug 11, 2020, at 6:00 PM, DAVID MASSEY &l=
t;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"x_yiv2268253414" target=3D"_b=
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hat are your plans for getting rid of the water?&nbsp; Most dryers have som=
e sort of drain, either float actuated or a timer/solenoid valve set-up.&nb=
sp; But will the transmission coolers self-drain?</font><br class=3D"x_yiv2=
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-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"x_yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
From: Darrell Walker &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"x_yiv2=
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Yes, the objective is to reduce moisture.&nbsp; I don=92t have a lot of spa=
ce for long runs of iron pipe, so I=92m looking at using a transmission rad=
iator.<br class=3D"x_yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
<br class=3D"x_yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
The compressor arrived today (one advantage of getting it from Lowes, they =
had some in stock).&nbsp; And the delivery guys even put it into the garage=
 for me (gave them a nice tip since I didn=92t have to drag it up the drive=
way).<br class=3D"x_yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
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My wife=92s reaction was similar to what someone else reported, =93that=92s=
 big=94.<br class=3D"x_yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
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-Darrell<br class=3D"x_yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
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&gt; On Aug 11, 2020, at 1:20 PM, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" cl=
ass=3D"x_yiv2268253414" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gmail.=
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 wrote:<br class=3D"x_yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
&gt; <br class=3D"x_yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
&gt; What are you trying to accomplish with the aftercooler?<br class=3D"x_=
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&gt; If it is to get water/vapor out of the compressed air, consider using =
iron pipe for distribution. The pipe should cool down the water vaper and a=
llow it to condense and flow to a low point for removal.<br class=3D"x_yiv2=
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&gt; All the best,<br class=3D"x_yiv2268253414" clear=3D"none">
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&gt; I thought I=92d update you all on my compressor search.&nbsp; I purcha=
sed the Kobalt 60 gallon, two-stage from Lowe=92s.&nbsp; It mostly came dow=
n to the weight of the Quincy unit, not sure I could handle a nearly 500 lb=
 compressor, and getting anyone to help is problematic.<br class=3D"x_yiv22=
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&gt; Now I=92m researching after-coolers.&nbsp; I=92ve found several ideal =
using a transmission cooler.&nbsp; I understand that putting it between the=
 compressor and the tank is most effective, but I=92m a little hesitant to =
start re-plumbing my brand new compressor.&nbsp; So I may
 install it on the outflow.&nbsp; I=92ve seen other designs using a series =
of pipe loops, but space is a bit of concern, so the transmission cooler wi=
th a fan to cool is more inline with what I can install.<br class=3D"x_yiv2=
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 10:59:32 -0400

It does make sense to use a radiator of some kind to cool the air so the water vapor condenses. You might want to investigate whether passive cooling will be enough, or whether you will need to have a fan moving air across the radiator. Obviously, if it heat sinks as it absorbs the heat from the compressed air it will lose efficiency in condensing water out of the air.

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All the best,

Al Fuller

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Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 8:07 PM
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-Darrell

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