Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Air Compressor threw a rod

From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:02:39 -0700

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Ereplacementparts.com says it=E2=80=99s black

Peace,=20
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:33 PM, [email-masked] wrote:

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So I bought a Sears Craftsman 6.5 HP 2-cylinder oil-less air compressor used=
. Since I bought it used, I don=E2=80=99t know how old it is, or how it was u=
sed=E2=80=A6 Recently I fired it up and it began making a noise, so I shut i=
t down, and found lots of plastic parts on the shop floor. Upon inspection, i=
t has thrown a rod on one cylinder. The plastic parts were from the fan.  Th=
e issue is finding a connecting rod and cylinder kit for it, since it appear=
s to no longer be made/sold, and sears parts direct doesn=E2=80=99t have the=
 parts.
=20
The Sears Craftsman model # is 919-165600, and it looks like it was also sol=
d as a DeVilblis 919-16560, as well as lots of other makes and models.  The c=
onnecting rod is an ACG-1.
=20
Some people claim there are only about 3-4 different cylinder configurations=
, so I guess my question is what would be a good source for locating parts f=
or this thing? I=E2=80=99ve looked around Amazon, E-Bay, etc. and so far hav=
e found one kit, but its $139 for a single cylinder! See https://www.amazon.=
com/Benron-Equipment-Replacment-for-KK-4835/dp/B0814GP4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_9022420=
011_t3_B00F9Z4A1G. there must be a better alternative.
=20
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All the best,
=20
Al Fuller
=20
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oNormal">So I bought a Sears Craftsman 6.5 HP 2-cylinder oil-less air compre=
ssor used. Since I bought it used, I don=E2=80=99t know how old it is, or ho=
w it was used=E2=80=A6 Recently I fired it up and it began making a noise, s=
o I shut it down, and found lots of plastic parts on the shop floor. Upon in=
spection, it has thrown a rod on one cylinder. The plastic parts were from t=
he fan. &nbsp;The issue is finding a connecting rod and cylinder kit for it,=
 since it appears to no longer be made/sold, and sears parts direct doesn=E2=
=80=99t have the parts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The Sears Craftsman model # is 919-165600, and i=
t looks like it was also sold as a DeVilblis 919-16560, as well as lots of o=
ther makes and models. &nbsp;The connecting rod is an ACG-1.<o:p></o:p></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Some peopl=
e claim there are only about 3-4 different cylinder configurations, so I gue=
ss my question is what would be a good source for locating parts for this th=
ing? I=E2=80=99ve looked around Amazon, E-Bay, etc. and so far have found on=
e kit, but its $139 for a single cylinder! See <a href=3D"https://www.amazon=
.com/Benron-Equipment-Replacment-for-KK-4835/dp/B0814GP4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_902242=
0011_t3_B00F9Z4A1G">https://www.amazon.com/Benron-Equipment-Replacment-for-K=
K-4835/dp/B0814GP4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_9022420011_t3_B00F9Z4A1G</a>. there must be a=
 better alternative.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><div>&lt;image001.jpg&gt;</div><o:p></o:p></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">----------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">All=
 the best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">Al Fuller<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</=
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From: Doug Braun <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:51:31 -0400

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So, do these oil-less compressors have a piston sliding in a cylinder?
(That's what it looks like in the photo).  How do they manage without
lubrication?

Doug

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 6:03 PM Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Peace,
> Pat Horne
> So I bought a Sears Craftsman 6.5 HP 2-cylinder oil-less air compressor
> used. Since I bought it used, I don=E2=80=99t know how old it is, or how =
it was
> used=E2=80=A6 Recently I fired it up and it began making a noise, so I sh=
ut it
> down, and found lots of plastic parts on the shop floor. Upon inspection,
> it has thrown a rod on one cylinder. The plastic parts were from the fan.
> The issue is finding a connecting rod and cylinder kit for it, since it
> appears to no longer be made/sold, and sears parts direct doesn=E2=80=99t=
 have the
> parts.
>
>
>
> The Sears Craftsman model # is 919-165600, and it looks like it was also
> sold as a DeVilblis 919-16560, as well as lots of other makes and models.
> The connecting rod is an ACG-1.
>
>
>
> Some people claim there are only about 3-4 different cylinder
> configurations, so I guess my question is what would be a good source for
> locating parts for this thing? I=E2=80=99ve looked around Amazon, E-Bay, =
etc. and
> so far have found one kit, but its $139 for a single cylinder! See
> https://www.amazon.com/Benron-Equipment-Replacment-for-KK-4835/dp/B0814GP=
4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_9022420011_t3_B00F9Z4A1G.
> there must be a better alternative.
>
>
>
>
> ----------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>So, do these oil-less compressors have a piston slidi=
ng in a cylinder?=C2=A0 (That&#39;s what it looks like in the photo).=C2=A0=
=20
How do they manage

without lubrication?</div><div><br></div><div>Doug<br></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 28, 2020=
 at 6:03 PM Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">patintex=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Ereplacementparts.com says it=E2=80=99s blac=
k<div><br></div><div>Peace,=C2=A0</div><div>Pat<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat=
 Horne=C2=A0<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:33 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:alfulle=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So I bought a Se=
ars Craftsman 6.5 HP 2-cylinder oil-less air compressor used. Since I bough=
t it used, I don=E2=80=99t know how old it is, or how it was used=E2=80=A6 =
Recently I fired it up and it began making a noise, so I shut it down, and =
found lots of plastic parts on the shop floor. Upon inspection, it has thro=
wn a rod on one cylinder. The plastic parts were from the fan.=C2=A0 The is=
sue is finding a connecting rod and cylinder kit for it, since it appears t=
o no longer be made/sold, and sears parts direct doesn=E2=80=99t have the p=
arts.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">The Sears Craftsman model # is 919-165600, and it looks l=
ike it was also sold as a DeVilblis 919-16560, as well as lots of other mak=
es and models.=C2=A0 The connecting rod is an ACG-1.<u></u><u></u></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Some peopl=
e claim there are only about 3-4 different cylinder configurations, so I gu=
ess my question is what would be a good source for locating parts for this =
thing? I=E2=80=99ve looked around Amazon, E-Bay, etc. and so far have found=
 one kit, but its $139 for a single cylinder! See <a href=3D"https://www.am=
azon.com/Benron-Equipment-Replacment-for-KK-4835/dp/B0814GP4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_9=
022420011_t3_B00F9Z4A1G" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Benron-Eq=
uipment-Replacment-for-KK-4835/dp/B0814GP4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_9022420011_t3_B00F9=
Z4A1G</a>. there must be a better alternative.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"></p><div>&lt;ima=
ge001.jpg&gt;</div><u></u><u></u><p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">------------=
----<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">All the best,<u></u><u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Al F=
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Al,

We are in an age where fixing parts isn't the best option all the time.  I 
bet you can get a whole new compressor heads (compressor minus motor and 
tank) for less than the kit/time will cost you.

Of find a compressor with a burnt up motor and you can get it cheap and 
swap out the head.

Just a thought.

"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational 
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph 
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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Al,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">We are in an age where fixing parts
isn't the best option all the time. &nbsp;I bet you can get a whole new
compressor heads (compressor minus motor and tank) for less than the kit/time
will cost you.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Of find a compressor with a burnt up
motor and you can get it cheap and swap out the head.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Just a thought.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
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being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory.&quot; Ralph
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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:21:22 -0700

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Teflon or similar seals. Also called self-lubricating. Not nearly as good as=
 oiled rings but cheap & easy to build.=20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20

On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Doug Braun <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
So, do these oil-less compressors have a piston sliding in a cylinder?  (Tha=
t's what it looks like in the photo).  How do they manage without lubricatio=
n?

Doug

> So I bought a Sears Craftsman 6.5 HP 2-cylinder oil-less air compressor us=
ed. Since I bought it used, I don=E2=80=99t know how old it is, or how it wa=
s used=E2=80=A6 Recently I fired it up and it began making a noise, so I shu=
t it down, and found lots of plastic parts on the shop floor. Upon inspectio=
n, it has thrown a rod on one cylinder. The plastic parts were from the fan.=
  The issue is finding a connecting rod and cylinder kit for it, since it ap=
pears to no longer be made/sold, and sears parts direct doesn=E2=80=99t have=
 the parts.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> The Sears Craftsman model # is 919-165600, and it looks like it was also s=
old as a DeVilblis 919-16560, as well as lots of other makes and models.  Th=
e connecting rod is an ACG-1.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Some people claim there are only about 3-4 different cylinder configuratio=
ns, so I guess my question is what would be a good source for locating parts=
 for this thing? I=E2=80=99ve looked around Amazon, E-Bay, etc. and so far h=
ave found one kit, but its $139 for a single cylinder! See https://www.amazo=
n.com/Benron-Equipment-Replacment-for-KK-4835/dp/B0814GP4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_90224=
20011_t3_B00F9Z4A1G. there must be a better alternative.
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/arc=
hive
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Teflon or similar seals. Also called self-l=
ubricating. Not nearly as good as oiled rings but cheap &amp; easy to build.=
&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat H=
orne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Doug Braun &lt;doug@dougbraun=
.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
>So, do these oil-less compressors have a piston sliding in a cylinder?&nbsp=
; (That's what it looks like in the photo).&nbsp;=20
How do they manage

without lubrication?</div><div><br></div><div>Doug<br></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 6=
:03 PM Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">patintexas@icl=
oud.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Ereplacementparts.com says it=E2=80=99s black<div><br=
></div><div>Peace,&nbsp;</div><div>Pat<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbs=
p;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br>On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:33 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So I bought a Sears Craftsman 6=
.5 HP 2-cylinder oil-less air compressor used. Since I bought it used, I don=
=E2=80=99t know how old it is, or how it was used=E2=80=A6 Recently I fired i=
t up and it began making a noise, so I shut it down, and found lots of plast=
ic parts on the shop floor. Upon inspection, it has thrown a rod on one cyli=
nder. The plastic parts were from the fan.&nbsp; The issue is finding a conn=
ecting rod and cylinder kit for it, since it appears to no longer be made/so=
ld, and sears parts direct doesn=E2=80=99t have the parts.<u></u><u></u></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The Se=
ars Craftsman model # is 919-165600, and it looks like it was also sold as a=
 DeVilblis 919-16560, as well as lots of other makes and models.&nbsp; The c=
onnecting rod is an ACG-1.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&n=
bsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Some people claim there are only about=
 3-4 different cylinder configurations, so I guess my question is what would=
 be a good source for locating parts for this thing? I=E2=80=99ve looked aro=
und Amazon, E-Bay, etc. and so far have found one kit, but its $139 for a si=
ngle cylinder! See <a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Benron-Equipment-Replac=
ment-for-KK-4835/dp/B0814GP4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_9022420011_t3_B00F9Z4A1G" target=3D=
"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Benron-Equipment-Replacment-for-KK-4835/dp/B=
0814GP4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_9022420011_t3_B00F9Z4A1G</a>. there must be a better al=
ternative.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><=
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Yes =E2=80=93 the tank IS black. Is that what you meant?  I had looked =
at Ereplacementparts.com, and they call out rod kit KK-4835, but =
it=E2=80=99s no longer available.

=20

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All the best,

=20

Al Fuller

=20

From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 6:03 PM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Air Compressor threw a rod

=20

=20

Peace,=20

Pat

Pat Horne=20

=20

On Jul 28, 2020, at 2:33 PM, [email-masked] =

=EF=BB=BF

So I bought a Sears Craftsman 6.5 HP 2-cylinder oil-less air compressor =
used. Since I bought it used, I don=E2=80=99t know how old it is, or how =
it was used=E2=80=A6 Recently I fired it up and it began making a noise, =
so I shut it down, and found lots of plastic parts on the shop floor. =
Upon inspection, it has thrown a rod on one cylinder. The plastic parts =
were from the fan.  The issue is finding a connecting rod and cylinder =
kit for it, since it appears to no longer be made/sold, and sears parts =
direct doesn=E2=80=99t have the parts.

=20

The Sears Craftsman model # is 919-165600, and it looks like it was also =
sold as a DeVilblis 919-16560, as well as lots of other makes and =
models.  The connecting rod is an ACG-1.

=20

Some people claim there are only about 3-4 different cylinder =
configurations, so I guess my question is what would be a good source =
for locating parts for this thing? I=E2=80=99ve looked around Amazon, =
E-Bay, etc. and so far have found one kit, but its $139 for a single =
cylinder! See =
https://www.amazon.com/Benron-Equipment-Replacment-for-KK-4835/dp/B0814GP=
4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_9022420011_t3_B00F9Z4A1G. there must be a better =
alternative.

=20

----------------

All the best,

=20

Al Fuller

=20

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk =
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class=3DMsoNormal>Yes =E2=80=93 the tank IS black. Is that what you =
meant?=C2=A0 I had looked at Ereplacementparts.com, and they call out =
rod kit KK-4835, but it=E2=80=99s no longer available.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>----------------<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Al =
Fuller<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Pat Horne =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 28, 2020 =
6:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Air =
Compressor threw a rod<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ereplacementparts.com says it=E2=80=99s =
black<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Peace,&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Pat<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Pat Horne&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>We support Habitat for =
Humanity<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jul 28, 2020, at =
2:33 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>So I =
bought a Sears Craftsman 6.5 HP 2-cylinder oil-less air compressor used. =
Since I bought it used, I don=E2=80=99t know how old it is, or how it =
was used=E2=80=A6 Recently I fired it up and it began making a noise, so =
I shut it down, and found lots of plastic parts on the shop floor. Upon =
inspection, it has thrown a rod on one cylinder. The plastic parts were =
from the fan. &nbsp;The issue is finding a connecting rod and cylinder =
kit for it, since it appears to no longer be made/sold, and sears parts =
direct doesn=E2=80=99t have the parts.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The Sears =
Craftsman model # is 919-165600, and it looks like it was also sold as a =
DeVilblis 919-16560, as well as lots of other makes and models. =
&nbsp;The connecting rod is an ACG-1.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Some people =
claim there are only about 3-4 different cylinder configurations, so I =
guess my question is what would be a good source for locating parts for =
this thing? I=E2=80=99ve looked around Amazon, E-Bay, etc. and so far =
have found one kit, but its $139 for a single cylinder! See <a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Benron-Equipment-Replacment-for-KK-4835/dp=
/B0814GP4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_9022420011_t3_B00F9Z4A1G">https://www.amazon.com/B=
enron-Equipment-Replacment-for-KK-4835/dp/B0814GP4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_902242001=
1_t3_B00F9Z4A1G</a>. there must be a better =
alternative.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&lt;image001.jpg&gt;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>----------------<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Al =
Fuller<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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Yes. The piston has a simple ring that seals the cylinder and keeps the =
piston off the cylinder wall. After a while they do get scuffed up, and =
the fix is to replace the cylinder and seal. If you catch it before the =
kind of catastrophic damage I have, you just pull the head, unbolt the =
connecting rod, remove the piston/connecting rod assembly along with the =
cylinder =E2=80=93 and replace them with new parts.

=20

I think I can find all the parts except the connecting rod=E2=80=A6 =
following is a diagram. #58 is the cylinder. It just drops down into the =
body.

=20

=20

----------------

All the best,

=20

Al Fuller

=20

From: Doug Braun <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 6:52 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Air Compressor threw a rod

=20

So, do these oil-less compressors have a piston sliding in a cylinder?  =
(That's what it looks like in the photo).  How do they manage without =
lubrication?

=20

Doug

=20

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 6:03 PM Pat Horne <[email-masked] =

=20

Peace,=20

Pat

Pat Horne=20

=20

=EF=BB=BF

=20

=20

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=20

Al Fuller

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Yes. The =
piston has a simple ring that seals the cylinder and keeps the piston =
off the cylinder wall. After a while they do get scuffed up, and the fix =
is to replace the cylinder and seal. If you catch it before the kind of =
catastrophic damage I have, you just pull the head, unbolt the =
connecting rod, remove the piston/connecting rod assembly along with the =
cylinder =E2=80=93 and replace them with new parts.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I think I =
can find all the parts except the connecting rod=E2=80=A6 following is a =
diagram. #58 is the cylinder. It just drops down into the =
body.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><img width=3D701 height=3D749 =
style=3D'width:7.302in;height:7.802in' id=3D"Picture_x0020_2" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]"><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>----------------<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Al =
Fuller<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Doug Braun =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 28, 2020 6:52 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Air =
Compressor threw a rod<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So, do these oil-less compressors have a piston =
sliding in a cylinder?&nbsp; (That's what it looks like in the =
photo).&nbsp; How do they manage without =
lubrication?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Doug<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 6:03 PM Pat Horne &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ereplacementparts.com says it=E2=80=99s =
black<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Peace,&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Pat<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Pat Horne&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>We support Habitat for =
Humanity<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jul 28, 2020, at =
2:33 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>So I bought =
a Sears Craftsman 6.5 HP 2-cylinder oil-less air compressor used. Since =
I bought it used, I don=E2=80=99t know how old it is, or how it was =
used=E2=80=A6 Recently I fired it up and it began making a noise, so I =
shut it down, and found lots of plastic parts on the shop floor. Upon =
inspection, it has thrown a rod on one cylinder. The plastic parts were =
from the fan.&nbsp; The issue is finding a connecting rod and cylinder =
kit for it, since it appears to no longer be made/sold, and sears parts =
direct doesn=E2=80=99t have the parts.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The Sears =
Craftsman model # is 919-165600, and it looks like it was also sold as a =
DeVilblis 919-16560, as well as lots of other makes and models.&nbsp; =
The connecting rod is an ACG-1.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Some people =
claim there are only about 3-4 different cylinder configurations, so I =
guess my question is what would be a good source for locating parts for =
this thing? I=E2=80=99ve looked around Amazon, E-Bay, etc. and so far =
have found one kit, but its $139 for a single cylinder! See <a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Benron-Equipment-Replacment-for-KK-4835/dp=
/B0814GP4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_9022420011_t3_B00F9Z4A1G" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Benron-Equipment-Replacment-for-=
KK-4835/dp/B0814GP4ZH/ref=3Dpsdc_9022420011_t3_B00F9Z4A1G</a>. there =
must be a better alternative.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal =
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----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 15:50:54 -0400

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Yeah, you may be right. I guess it just bothers me that I cant find the
right combination of repair parts. 

I DID look at getting a whole new compressor head, but that is about what it
would cost for a complete unit [~$2-400].

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All the best,

Al Fuller

From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 6:57 PM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Air Compressor threw a rod

Al, 

Of find a compressor with a burnt up motor and you can get it cheap and swap
out the head. 

Just a thought. 

"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo
Emerson 
-Who is John Galt?

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<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
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that is about what it would cost for a complete unit =
[~$2-400].<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>----------------<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 28, 2020 6:57 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
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age where fixing parts isn't the best option all the time. &nbsp;I bet =
you can get a whole new compressor heads (compressor minus motor and =
tank) for less than the kit/time will cost you.</span> <br><br><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Of find a =
compressor with a burnt up motor and you can get it cheap and swap out =
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Ralph Waldo Emerson <br>-Who is John =
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