Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] On to wrenches

From: "john niolon" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 09:45:15 -0500

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I understand Mark..  I went thru that a while back and used Ernst Mfg =
socket and wrench sets and never looked back =20

john

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From: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: 7/21/2020 9:35:19 AM
Subject: [Shop-talk] On to wrenches
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I got burned out on cars some years ago, garage has become basically a=
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giant kitchen junk drawer, so to speak.  But I'm getting inspired, hav=
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actually done a bit of work on LBCs lately. I'm fired up to get the=20=

garage cleaned and organized once again, get cars back on the road.

Tools storage is always an issue.  For the moment, wrenches.  I need t=
o=20
get them organized.  I have a lot of them.   I wonder what those red=20=

plastic thingies with the notches in them are for?

mjb.

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From: Mark Andy <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:08:09 -0400

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Howdy,

I do a hybrid between "junk drawer" and "organized"...  I use a couple
organizers for my 'main' metric and standard wrench drawers, then have
another drawer for each that's just got 'other wrenches' thrown in.

Works for me, but taking a look at those Ernst wrench rails, I might do
something a little more custom...

Mark

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:36 AM Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I got burned out on cars some years ago, garage has become basically a
> giant kitchen junk drawer, so to speak.  But I'm getting inspired, have
> actually done a bit of work on LBCs lately. I'm fired up to get the
> Tools storage is always an issue.  For the moment, wrenches.  I need to
> get them organized.  I have a lot of them.   I wonder what those red
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,<div><br></div><div>I do a hybrid between &quot;junk=
 drawer&quot; and &quot;organized&quot;...=C2=A0 I use a couple organizers =
for my &#39;main&#39; metric and standard wrench drawers, then have another=
 drawer for each that&#39;s just got &#39;other wrenches&#39; thrown in.<br=
><br>Works for me, but taking a look at those Ernst wrench rails, I might d=
o something a little more custom...<br><br>Mark</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 21, 2020=
 at 10:36 AM Mark J Bradakis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mark@=
bradakis.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex">I got burned out on cars some years ago, garage has become basi=
cally a <br>
giant kitchen junk drawer, so to speak.=C2=A0 But I&#39;m getting inspired,=
 have <br>
actually done a bit of work on LBCs lately. I&#39;m fired up to get the <br=
garage cleaned and organized once again, get cars back on the road.<br>
<br>
Tools storage is always an issue.=C2=A0 For the moment, wrenches.=C2=A0 I n=
eed to <br>
get them organized.=C2=A0 I have a lot of them.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I wonder what t=
hose red <br>
plastic thingies with the notches in them are for?<br>
<br>
mjb.<br>
<br>
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This approach works well for me...

Best,

Doug

From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Mark Andy <=
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Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 8:08:09 AM
To: ShopTalk <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] On to wrenches

Howdy,

I do a hybrid between "junk drawer" and "organized"...  I use a couple orga=
nizers for my 'main' metric and standard wrench drawers, then have another =
drawer for each that's just got 'other wrenches' thrown in.

Works for me, but taking a look at those Ernst wrench rails, I might do som=
ething a little more custom...

Mark

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mjb.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,
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<div>I do a hybrid between &quot;junk drawer&quot; and &quot;organized&quot=
;...&nbsp; I use a couple organizers for my 'main' metric and standard wren=
ch drawers, then have another drawer for each that's just got 'other wrench=
es' thrown in.<br>
<br>
Works for me, but taking a look at those Ernst wrench rails, I might do som=
ething a little more custom...<br>
<br>
Mark</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:36 AM Ma=
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I got burned out on cars some years ago, garage has become basically a <br>
giant kitchen junk drawer, so to speak.&nbsp; But I'm getting inspired, hav=
e <br>
actually done a bit of work on LBCs lately. I'm fired up to get the <br>
garage cleaned and organized once again, get cars back on the road.<br>
<br>
Tools storage is always an issue.&nbsp; For the moment, wrenches.&nbsp; I n=
eed to <br>
get them organized.&nbsp; I have a lot of them.&nbsp;&nbsp; I wonder what t=
hose red <br>
plastic thingies with the notches in them are for?<br>
<br>
mjb.<br>
<br>
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:21:03 -0400

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mark Andy <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> I do a hybrid between "junk drawer" and "organized"...  I use a couple organizers for my 'main' metric and standard wrench drawers, then have another drawer for each that's just got 'other wrenches' thrown in.

Back when I was a professional schmieraffe, I had a very organized
tool box.  Time was money, and so it was important that I could find
any tool quickly, often without looking, and at the end of each job, I
could scan the toolbox and make sure they were all in place, and not
in the engine compartment of a 1973 VW Bus (bye-bye, 22mm wrench!).

Nowadays, I have a lot more tools in the same space, so they'd got
like Mark's.  I picked up a nice Craftsman top box, and used it to
spread out the most-used tools so once again I can find what I need,
mostly, as soon as I can remember which draw is the screwdriver
drawer, and which is pliers.

Unfortunately, the top box is wider than my Mac bottom box by a few
inches, so it looks odd.  No more deals on a box that's the same
quality as the top box...   and so it goes...

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

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From: Mark Andy <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:27:50 -0400

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Howdy,

I forgot the link to the organizer I use...

https://www.harborfreight.com/76-piece-wrench-organizer-46884.html?_br_psugg_q=wrench+organizer

But like I said, I liked the look of those Ernst rails, so I just ordered a
set.  :)

Mark

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,<div><br></div><div>I forgot the link to the organiz=
er I use...<br><br><a href=3D"https://www.harborfreight.com/76-piece-wrench=
-organizer-46884.html?_br_psugg_q=3Dwrench+organizer">https://www.harborfre=
ight.com/76-piece-wrench-organizer-46884.html?_br_psugg_q=3Dwrench+organize=
r</a>=C2=A0<br><br>But like I said, I liked the look of those Ernst rails, =
so I just ordered a set.=C2=A0 :)<br><br>Mark</div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at =
11:08 AM Mark Andy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">marka@maracing=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,<div><br></div><div>I do a hybrid between &quot;=
junk drawer&quot; and &quot;organized&quot;...=C2=A0 I use a couple organiz=
ers for my &#39;main&#39; metric and standard wrench drawers, then have ano=
ther drawer for each that&#39;s just got &#39;other wrenches&#39; thrown in=
.<br><br>Works for me, but taking a look at those Ernst wrench rails, I mig=
ht do something a little more custom...<br><br>Mark</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 21, 20=
20 at 10:36 AM Mark J Bradakis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I got burned out on cars some years ago, g=
arage has become basically a <br>
giant kitchen junk drawer, so to speak.=C2=A0 But I&#39;m getting inspired,=
 have <br>
actually done a bit of work on LBCs lately. I&#39;m fired up to get the <br=

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From: John Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 09:18:43 -0700

On 7/21/2020 7:45 AM, john niolon wrote:
> I understand Mark..  I went thru that a while back and used Ernst Mfg socket and wrench sets and never looked back
> 

I have everything and anything...from 1930s Herbrand Van-Chrome to '50s 
Craftsman and '60s Proto to last week's Harbor Freight and Amazon and a 
ton of stuff I've done off eBay.  I gave up.  I have a 'metric drawer' 
that's about to get partitioned a little better and a 'SAE drawer' 
likewise.  I don't have one of anything and often need/want something 
specific so slotting things in a rack just doesn't work.  Unless I had a 
lot more drawer space.

Sockets are better partitioned.  I try to keep at least five of every 
size from 6mm/1/4in up to an inch/25mm deep, short, etc.  Fewer of the 
big ones, though I should buy more.

John.

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I have a small, two car garage, so I don=E2=80=99t need to roll my tool =
chest around. I have a 2x12 beam where I can hang most of my wrenches. I =
also modify the round loop holders for a peg board and mount them on my =
work bench to hold screwdrivers, ice pick (on of my most valued tools), =
etc. Most frequently used sockets are in socket holders in the toolbox. =
The rest are the usual sort though drawers. I have used magnetic strips =
to mount tools as well leaving more room in the crowded toolbox.

Brian Kennedy

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 9:18 AM, John Miller <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
socket and wrench sets and never looked back
>=20
> I have everything and anything...from 1930s Herbrand Van-Chrome to =
'50s Craftsman and '60s Proto to last week's Harbor Freight and Amazon =
and a ton of stuff I've done off eBay.  I gave up.  I have a 'metric =
drawer' that's about to get partitioned a little better and a 'SAE =
drawer' likewise.  I don't have one of anything and often need/want =
something specific so slotting things in a rack just doesn't work.  =
Unless I had a lot more drawer space.
>=20
> Sockets are better partitioned.  I try to keep at least five of every =
size from 6mm/1/4in up to an inch/25mm deep, short, etc.  Fewer of the =
big ones, though I should buy more.
> John.

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have a small, two car garage, so I don=E2=80=99t need to roll my tool =
chest around. I have a 2x12 beam where I can hang most of my wrenches. I =
also modify the round loop holders for a peg board and mount them on my =
work bench to hold screwdrivers, ice pick (on of my most valued tools), =
etc. Most frequently used sockets are in socket holders in the toolbox. =
The rest are the usual sort though drawers. I have used magnetic strips =
to mount tools as well leaving more room in the crowded toolbox.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
7/21/2020 7:45 AM, john niolon wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">I understand Mark.. &nbsp;I went thru that a =
while back and used Ernst Mfg socket and wrench sets and never looked =
back<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">I have everything and =
anything...from 1930s Herbrand Van-Chrome to '50s Craftsman and '60s =
Proto to last week's Harbor Freight and Amazon and a ton of stuff I've =
done off eBay. &nbsp;I gave up. &nbsp;I have a 'metric drawer' that's =
about to get partitioned a little better and a 'SAE drawer' likewise. =
&nbsp;I don't have one of anything and often need/want something =
specific so slotting things in a rack just doesn't work. &nbsp;Unless I =
had a lot more drawer space.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sockets are =
better partitioned. &nbsp;I try to keep at least five of every size from =
6mm/1/4in up to an inch/25mm deep, short, etc. &nbsp;Fewer of the big =
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how tall are you, Doug...=20
I'd have to move those screwdrivers down some and put seldom used stuf=
f up higher.  The only thing I have against the wrench racks
is usually I need two of a given size to do the work... so I have a pi=
le of extras in front of the drawer.  It's=20
a little messy but you gotta do what you gotta do.=20
These pics also remind me I need to update my tool pics since=20
I've added and deleted some.... Insurance guy likes pictures

----- Original Message -----
From: old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
To: Mark Andy <[email-masked]>, ShopTalk <[email-masked]=
Sent: 7/21/2020 10:13:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] On to wrenches

Best,

Doug

From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Mark A=
ndy <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 8:08:09 AM
To: ShopTalk <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] On to wrenches=20

Howdy,=20

I do a hybrid between "junk drawer" and "organized"...  I use a couple=
 organizers for my 'main' metric and standard wrench drawers, then hav=
e another drawer for each that's=20
just got 'other wrenches' thrown in.

Works for me, but taking a look at those Ernst wrench rails, I might d=
o=20
something a little more custom...

Mark

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:36 AM Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

I got burned out on cars some years ago, garage has become basically a=
=20
giant kitchen junk drawer, so to speak.  But=20
I'm getting inspired, have=20
actually done a bit of work on LBCs lately. I'm=20
fired up to get the=20
garage cleaned and organized once again, get cars back on the road.

mjb.

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<DIV>how tall are you, Doug... I'd have to move those screwdrivers dow=
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, then have another drawer for each that's just got 'other wrenches' t=
hrown in.<BR><BR>Works for me, but taking a look at those Ernst wrench=
 rails, I might do something a little more custom...<BR><BR>Mark</DIV>=
</DIV><BR>
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road.<BR><BR>Tools storage is always an issue.&nbsp; For the moment, w=
renches.&nbsp; I need to <BR>get them organized.&nbsp; I have a lot of=
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From: old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:33:12 -0700

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I'm 6'1", but I tend to use the end wrenches more than the screwdrivers,
and if I need a screwdriver, it usually is only one, where if I need end
wrenches, I usually need at least two of them.

I did the whole garage in pegboard and try to keep the tools next to where
I usually use them.

I find that having them on the wall is a clear way of knowing where they
are (or are not). When they are supposed to be in a drawer (but are not),
it can take a good deal of digging around to conclude that the wrench is
not where it was supposed to be.

I have not gone to the extreme of outlining the tool on the wall, though,
as I have seen in some shops.  :-)

best,

doug

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:30 AM john niolon <[email-masked]> wrote:

> how tall are you, Doug... I'd have to move those screwdrivers down some
> and put seldom used stuff up higher.  The only thing I have against the
> wrench racks
> is usually I need two of a given size to do the work... so I have a pile
> of extras in front of the drawer.  It's a little messy but you gotta do
> what you gotta do.
> These pics also remind me I need to update my tool pics since I've added
> and deleted some.... Insurance guy likes pictures
>
>
> *----- Original Message -----*
> *From:* old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
> *To:* Mark Andy <[email-masked]>, ShopTalk <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* 7/21/2020 10:13:18 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] On to wrenches
> ------------------------------
> ------------------------------
>
> *This approach works well for me...*
>
> *Best,*
>
> *Doug*
>
> *From:* Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Mark
> Andy <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2020 8:08:09 AM
> *To:* ShopTalk <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] On to wrenches
>
> Howdy,
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m 6&#39;1&quot;, but I tend to use the end wrenches =
more than the screwdrivers, and if I need a screwdriver, it usually is only=
 one, where if I need end wrenches, I usually need at least two of them.<di=
v><br></div><div>I did the whole garage in pegboard and try=C2=A0to keep th=
e tools next to where I usually use them.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I =
find that having them on the wall is a clear way of knowing where they are =
(or are not). When they are supposed to be in a drawer (but are not), it ca=
n take a good deal of digging around to conclude that the wrench is not whe=
re it was supposed to be.</div><div><br></div><div>I have not gone to the e=
xtreme of outlining the tool on the wall, though, as I have seen in some sh=
ops.=C2=A0 :-)</div><div><br></div><div>best,</div><div><br></div><div>doug=
</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:30 AM john niolon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jn=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"gmail-m_1947301060228014034OECFntDef">
<div>how tall are you, Doug... I&#39;d have to move those screwdrivers down=
 some and put seldom used stuff up higher.=C2=A0 The only thing I have agai=
nst the wrench racks</div>
<div>is usually I need two of a given size to do the work... so I have a pi=
le of extras in front of the drawer.=C2=A0 It&#39;s a little messy but you =
gotta do what you gotta do. </div>
<div>These pics also remind me I need to update my tool pics since I&#39;ve=
 added and deleted some.... Insurance guy likes pictures</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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<div><b>To:</b> Mark Andy &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;, ShopTalk &lt;<=
a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;</div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> 7/21/2020 10:13:18 AM</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] On to wrenches</div>
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e=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif"><b>This=
 approach works well for me...</b></font></div>
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,</b></font></div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_1947301060228014034divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font styl=
e=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif"><b><br>=
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e=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif"><b>Doug=
</b></font></div>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_1947301060228014034divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font styl=
e=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif"><b><br>=
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<div id=3D"gmail-m_1947301060228014034divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font styl=
e=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From=
:</b> Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Mark A=
ndy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">marka@marac=
ing.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 21, 2020 8:08:09 AM<br><b>To:=
</b> ShopTalk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] On=
 to wrenches</font>=20
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,=20
<div><br></div>
<div>I do a hybrid between &quot;junk drawer&quot; and &quot;organized&quot=
;...=C2=A0 I use a couple organizers for my &#39;main&#39; metric and stand=
ard wrench drawers, then have another drawer for each that&#39;s just got &=
#39;other wrenches&#39; thrown in.<br><br>Works for me, but taking a look a=
t those Ernst wrench rails, I might do something a little more custom...<br=
><br>Mark</div></div><br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:36 AM Mark J Bradakis &lt;<a>ma=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:1ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">I got burned out on cars some years ago, garage=
 has become basically a <br>giant kitchen junk drawer, so to speak.=C2=A0 B=
ut I&#39;m getting inspired, have <br>actually done a bit of work on LBCs l=
ately. I&#39;m fired up to get the <br>garage cleaned and organized once ag=
ain, get cars back on the road.<br><br>Tools storage is always an issue.=C2=
=A0 For the moment, wrenches.=C2=A0 I need to <br>get them organized.=C2=A0=
 I have a lot of them.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I wonder what those red <br>plastic thin=
gies with the notches in them are for?<br><br>mjb.<br><br><br>_____________=
__________________________________<br><br><a>[email-masked]</a><b=
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From: Jack Brooks <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 23:32:55 +0000

Like Doug, I hung all of my wrenches, screwdrivers, etc.,  on pegboard, often 5 or 6 deep. The only problem children were the combination wrenches I cut in half to work on the Triumph TR8 carbs.  I needed a short swing and had an excess of wrenches I could shorten. 

I like having 6 or more of each, so I can leave them with my work until it is done.  This way I don't have to go back to the workbench to find the right tool AGAIN!

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 7:35 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Shop-talk] On to wrenches

I got burned out on cars some years ago, garage has become basically a giant kitchen junk drawer, so to speak.  But I'm getting inspired, have actually done a bit of work on LBCs lately. I'm fired up to get the garage cleaned and organized once again, get cars back on the road.

Tools storage is always an issue.  For the moment, wrenches.  I need to get them organized.  I have a lot of them.   I wonder what those red plastic thingies with the notches in them are for?

mjb.

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:03:38 -0700

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I'm looking for an organizer that puts the tools back in their places 
for me.

On 7/21/2020 10:14 AM, brianlpro wrote:
> I have a small, two car garage, so I don’t need to roll my tool chest 
> around. I have a 2x12 beam where I can hang most of my wrenches. I 
> also modify the round loop holders for a peg board and mount them on 
> my work bench to hold screwdrivers, ice pick (on of my most valued 
> tools), etc. Most frequently used sockets are in socket holders in the 
> toolbox. The rest are the usual sort though drawers. I have used 
> magnetic strips to mount tools as well leaving more room in the 
> crowded toolbox.
>
> Brian Kennedy
>
>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 9:18 AM, John Miller <[email-masked] 
>>
>>> I understand Mark..  I went thru that a while back and used Ernst 
>>> Mfg socket and wrench sets and never looked back
>>
>> I have everything and anything...from 1930s Herbrand Van-Chrome to 
>> '50s Craftsman and '60s Proto to last week's Harbor Freight and 
>> Amazon and a ton of stuff I've done off eBay.  I gave up.  I have a 
>> 'metric drawer' that's about to get partitioned a little better and a 
>> 'SAE drawer' likewise.  I don't have one of anything and often 
>> need/want something specific so slotting things in a rack just 
>> doesn't work.  Unless I had a lot more drawer space.
>>
>> size from 6mm/1/4in up to an inch/25mm deep, short, etc.  Fewer of 
>> the big ones, though I should buy more.
>>
>> John.
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      I have a small, two car garage, so I don’t need to roll my tool
      chest around. I have a 2x12 beam where I can hang most of my
      wrenches. I also modify the round loop holders for a peg board and
      mount them on my work bench to hold screwdrivers, ice pick (on of
      my most valued tools), etc. Most frequently used sockets are in
      socket holders in the toolbox. The rest are the usual sort though
      drawers. I have used magnetic strips to mount tools as well
      leaving more room in the crowded toolbox.
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                <blockquote type="cite" class="">I understand Mark..  I
                  went thru that a while back and used Ernst Mfg socket
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                I have everything and anything...from 1930s Herbrand
                Van-Chrome to '50s Craftsman and '60s Proto to last
                week's Harbor Freight and Amazon and a ton of stuff I've
                done off eBay.  I gave up.  I have a 'metric drawer'
                that's about to get partitioned a little better and a
                'SAE drawer' likewise.  I don't have one of anything and
                often need/want something specific so slotting things in
                a rack just doesn't work.  Unless I had a lot more
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                Sockets are better partitioned.  I try to keep at least
                five of every size from 6mm/1/4in up to an inch/25mm
                deep, short, etc.  Fewer of the big ones, though I
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From: Jim Franklin <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 22:22:29 -0400

I'm be happy for someone to just follow me around and jot down which room I put them down in. 

jim

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 10:03 PM, Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> I'm looking for an organizer that puts the tools back in their places for me.
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From: Jack Brooks <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 03:09:56 +0000

Not Funny Jim.  I am building a van out into an RV and spend too much of my time looking for stuff I just put down. <rolls eyes!>

You guys may be getting some build questions soon!

Jack

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