Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Broken sprinkler line

From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:32:58 -0700

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Shouldn=E2=80=99t be tough. Cut out bad part, add coupling & stub of pipe & a=
n adjustable coupling like this. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Homewerks-World=
wide-1-in-PVC-Slide-Repair-Coupling-511-53-1-1H/206698172

Peace,=20
Pat

Pat Horne=20
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On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFI wonder how about 4 inches was taken out of the side of this pipe,=
 and what happened to the pieces?  They must have all been washed away with t=
he leaking water, I guess.

Now, fix it myself or call in a pro?

mjb.

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Shouldn=E2=80=99t be tough. Cut out bad par=
t, add coupling &amp; stub of pipe &amp; an adjustable coupling like this.&n=
bsp;<a href=3D"https://www.homedepot.com/p/Homewerks-Worldwide-1-in-PVC-Slid=
e-Repair-Coupling-511-53-1-1H/206698172">https://www.homedepot.com/p/Homewer=
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m&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span>I wonder how about=
 4 inches was taken out of the side of this pipe, and what happened to the p=
ieces?&nbsp; They must have all been washed away with the leaking water, I g=
uess.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Now, fix it myself or call in a pro?<=
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You've already done the hard part (locating the break and digging it 
up).  From this point on, it's just a PVC repair that you can do 
yourself.  There are lots of Youtube videos that'll show you how.

The real question is what went wrong. Did it freeze?

On 7/27/20 14:27, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
> I wonder how about 4 inches was taken out of the side of this pipe, 
> and what happened to the pieces?  They must have all been washed away 
> with the leaking water, I guess.
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">You've already done the hard part
      (locating the break and digging it up).  From this point on, it's
      just a PVC repair that you can do yourself.  There are lots of
      Youtube videos that'll show you how.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">The real question is what went wrong. 
      Did it freeze?<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/27/20 14:27, Mark J Bradakis
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      wonder how about 4 inches was taken out of the side of this pipe,
      and what happened to the pieces?  They must have all been washed
      away with the leaking water, I guess.
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      Now, fix it myself or call in a pro?
      <br>
      <br>
      mjb.
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Hmmm... I had not seen that before.

I always have just manhandled it by prying the pipe up, cut the pipe to
just the right length to clear the length of the coupler,  slide the
coupler fully up the one pipe, and then center it on both ends of the pipes
before the glue dries.

This coupler looks A LOT easier...  :-)

Thanks for sharing...

best,

doug

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:33 AM Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Shouldn=E2=80=99t be tough. Cut out bad part, add coupling & stub of pipe=
 & an
> adjustable coupling like this.
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Homewerks-Worldwide-1-in-PVC-Slide-Repair-Cou=
pling-511-53-1-1H/206698172
> Peace,
> Pat Horne
> =EF=BB=BFI wonder how about 4 inches was taken out of the side of this pi=
pe, and
> what happened to the pieces?  They must have all been washed away with th=
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> leaking water, I guess.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hmmm... I had not seen that before.=C2=A0<div><br></div><d=
iv>I always have just manhandled it by prying the pipe up, cut the pipe to =
just the right length to clear the length=C2=A0of the coupler,=C2=A0 slide =
the coupler fully up the one pipe, and then center it on both ends of the p=
ipes before the glue=C2=A0dries.<div><br></div><div>This coupler looks A LO=
T easier...=C2=A0 :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for sharing...</div><=
div><br></div><div>best,</div><div><br></div><div>doug</div></div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, J=
ul 27, 2020 at 11:33 AM Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Shouldn=E2=80=99t be tough. Cut =
out bad part, add coupling &amp; stub of pipe &amp; an adjustable coupling =
like this.=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.homedepot.com/p/Homewerks-Worldwide-=
1-in-PVC-Slide-Repair-Coupling-511-53-1-1H/206698172" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.homedepot.com/p/Homewerks-Worldwide-1-in-PVC-Slide-Repair-Coupling=
-511-53-1-1H/206698172</a><div><br></div><div>Peace,=C2=A0</div><div>Pat<br=
><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne=C2=A0<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</=
div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:28 AM,=
 Mark J Bradakis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<s=
pan>I wonder how about 4 inches was taken out of the side of this pipe, and=
 what happened to the pieces?=C2=A0 They must have all been washed away wit=
h the leaking water, I guess.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Now, fix it =
myself or call in a pro?</span><br><span></span><br><span>mjb.</span><br><s=
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From: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:08:21 -0600

I've done a lot of home repairs over the years.  My father was pretty 
handy around the house, I got to help him with various plumbing, 
electrical, painting tasks while growing up.  I learned a lot at his 
side. One thing I apparently did not learn, or I just forgot, is that if 
a PVC pipe measures 1 inch on the outside diameter, it is not 1 inch 
PVC, it is really 3/4 inch.  Inside diameter is what is measured.

Oh well, I'll head back to the plumbing place in the morning, think I'll 
just have a gin and tonic while I grumble about life, the universe and 
everything.

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From: Brian Kemp <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:09:05 -0700

PVC is easy the second or third time you do it.

Be sure to use PVC primer before the PVC cement.  Otherwise, you will 
not have a solid well fused connection.  Push one fitting on the pipe, 
twist and hold it for 30 seconds to make sure it stays tight.  Don't 
expect to put together more than one fitting at a time as the cement 
bonds too fast.

When you are going to turn the water back on, remove a couple sprinkler 
heads down stream from the break, especially the end of the line.  Your 
pipe is likely full of dirt that will clog the sprinkler head if not 
flushed.

Brian

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Success.  A couple of trips to a plumping place, a REAL plumbing place, 
not a big box store.  The old mutt that hangs out at England Plumbing 
here in Salt Lake probably knows more about fixing plumbing problems 
than any three Home Depot or Lowe's employees.  Broken bits cut out, 
repair pieces in place.  Zone 2 of our sprinkler system now works just fine.

mjb.

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Glad it's fixed. Has anybody been using a lawn aerator or a fork over=20
the pipe? Looking at the picture you can imagine at least three tine=20
marks in the broken pipe.

Nick Brearley

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    <p>Glad it's fixed. Has anybody been using a lawn aerator or a fork
      over the pipe? Looking at the picture you can imagine at least
      three tine marks in the broken pipe.</p>
    <p>Nick Brearley</p>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 28/07/2020 20:40, Mark J Bradakis
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      A couple of trips to a plumping place, a REAL plumbing place, not
      a big box store.=C2=A0 The old mutt that hangs out at England Plumbin=
g
      here in Salt Lake probably knows more about fixing plumbing
      problems than any three Home Depot or Lowe's employees.=C2=A0 Broken
      bits cut out, repair pieces in place.=C2=A0 Zone 2 of our sprinkler
      system now works just fine.
      <br>
      <br>
      mjb.
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Yup =E2=80=93 just what I did when I ran over the sprinkle lines with a =
trencher while installing a new water main from the street to the house. =
It took longer to fix the sprinkler lines than to lay in the new water =
main, but not too long, using the slide couplers=E2=80=A6

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All the best,

=20

Al Fuller

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Horne
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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Broken sprinkler line

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Shouldn=E2=80=99t be tough. Cut out bad part, add coupling & stub of =
pipe & an adjustable coupling like this. =
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Homewerks-Worldwide-1-in-PVC-Slide-Repair-Cou=
pling-511-53-1-1H/206698172

=20

Peace,=20

Pat

Pat Horne=20

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=EF=BB=BFI wonder how about 4 inches was taken out of the side of this =
pipe, and what happened to the pieces?  They must have all been washed =
away with the leaking water, I guess.

mjb.

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=E2=80=93 just what I did when I ran over the sprinkle lines with a =
trencher while installing a new water main from the street to the house. =
It took longer to fix the sprinkler lines than to lay in the new water =
main, but not too long, using the slide =
couplers=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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Fuller<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Shop-talk =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat =
Horne<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 27, 2020 2:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mark J =
Bradakis &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Broken =
sprinkler line<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal>Shouldn=E2=80=99t be tough. Cut out bad part, add =
coupling &amp; stub of pipe &amp; an adjustable coupling like =
this.&nbsp;<a =
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pair-Coupling-511-53-1-1H/206698172">https://www.homedepot.com/p/Homewerk=
s-Worldwide-1-in-PVC-Slide-Repair-Coupling-511-53-1-1H/206698172</a><o:p>=
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class=3DMsoNormal>Peace,&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Pat<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jul 27, 2020, at =
11:28 AM, Mark J Bradakis &lt;<a =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>=EF=BB=BFI wonder how about 4 inches was =
taken out of the side of this pipe, and what happened to the =
pieces?&nbsp; They must have all been washed away with the leaking =
water, I guess.<br><br>Now, fix it myself or call in a =
pro?<br><br>mjb.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
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