Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] robocalls and such

From: John Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 19:06:16 -0700

On 6/17/2020 6:37 PM, john niolon wrote:
> anyone getting a rash of "800" harassing calls this afternoon. between 
> 4:30 and 6:00 pm we got 90 calls in 90 minutes.. different 800,866,888 
> numbers  and different caller id names,  but the same " debt 
> forgiveness" recorded message... if you hit a number to talk to someone 
> to complain they just hang up… I can't find a way to stop them... 
> looking for suggestions

All my spam is in Chinese. I don't answer most calls from numbers I 
don't recognize, and in mobile phones there's usually a 'block as spam' 
button somewhere.

We've got NoMoRobo hooked up to the house xfinity voip, which usually 
means it rings once and goes away.   Haven't yet added it to my cell.  I 
use a Google Voice number about half the time anyway.

John.
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 07:12:21 -0400

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On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:07 PM John Miller <[email-masked]> wrote:

>  I don't answer most calls from numbers I

The problem with that is that about 75% of the calls I get have the number
spoofed.  A guy in Bangalore is not calling me from a number in my area
code.  If I block it, I'll be blocking someone who may be legit, and not
the spam caller.

I love getting these calls for extending my auto warranty.  I make them do
the spiel and then tell them I have a 1975 Triumph...

"Oh.  Do you have another vehicle?"

"Yep.  A 1976 Triumph."

*click*

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 Miller &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0I d=
on&#39;t answer most calls from numbers I <br>
don&#39;t recognize, and in mobile phones there&#39;s usually a &#39;block =
as spam&#39; <br>
button somewhere.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>The problem with that is =
that about 75% of the calls I get have the number spoofed.=C2=A0 A guy in B=
angalore is not calling me from a number in my area code.=C2=A0 If I block =
it, I&#39;ll be blocking someone who may be legit, and not the spam caller.=
=C2=A0 <br><br>I love getting these calls for extending my auto warranty.=
=C2=A0 I make them do the spiel and then tell them I have a 1975 Triumph...=
</div><div><br></div><div>&quot;Oh.=C2=A0 Do you have another vehicle?&quot=
;</div><div><br></div><div>&quot;Yep.=C2=A0 A 1976 Triumph.&quot;</div><div=
><br></div><div>*click*</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div>

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From: Jim Stone <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 07:22:05 -0400

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I know changing your number is not a viable solution for most of us, but =
keeping my 314 St. Louis number when I moved to NY has turned out to be =
an unknowingly brilliant move!  Virtually any call I get from an unknown =
number Missouri is a spoof robocall, while an unknown NY call has a =
pretty good chance of being real. =20

> On Jun 18, 2020, at 7:12 AM, Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]> =
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>  I don't answer most calls from numbers I=20
> don't recognize, and in mobile phones there's usually a 'block as =
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> button somewhere.
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> The problem with that is that about 75% of the calls I get have the =
number spoofed.  A guy in Bangalore is not calling me from a number in =
my area code.  If I block it, I'll be blocking someone who may be legit, =
and not the spam caller. =20
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> I love getting these calls for extending my auto warranty.  I make =
them do the spiel and then tell them I have a 1975 Triumph...
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
know changing your number is not a viable solution for most of us, but =
keeping my 314 St. Louis number when I moved to NY has turned out to be =
an unknowingly brilliant move! &nbsp;Virtually any call I get from an =
unknown number Missouri is a spoof robocall, while an unknown NY call =
has a pretty good chance of being real. &nbsp;<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jun =
18, 2020, at 7:12 AM, Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:07 PM John =
Miller &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">&nbsp;I don't answer most calls from =
numbers I <br class=3D"">
don't recognize, and in mobile phones there's usually a 'block as spam' =
<br class=3D"">
button somewhere.</blockquote><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">The problem with that is that about 75% of the calls I get =
have the number spoofed.&nbsp; A guy in Bangalore is not calling me from =
a number in my area code.&nbsp; If I block it, I'll be blocking someone =
who may be legit, and not the spam caller.&nbsp; <br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I love getting these calls for extending my auto =
warranty.&nbsp; I make them do the spiel and then tell them I have a =
1975 Triumph...</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">"Oh.&nbsp; Do you have another vehicle?"</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">"Yep.&nbsp; A 1976 =
Triumph."</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">*click*</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div></div></div>
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I have Xfinity voice.=C2=A0 I'm not sure how it happened, but now when a =
new=20
number calls my home, they have to press 1 before the call will go=20
through to me.=C2=A0 This eliminates 99% of junk calls.

On 6/18/2020 7:12 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:07 PM John Miller <[email-masked]=20
>
>     =C2=A0I don't answer most calls from numbers I
> The problem with that is that about 75% of the calls I get have the=20
> number spoofed.=C2=A0 A guy in Bangalore is not calling me from a numbe=
r in=20
> my area code.=C2=A0 If I block it, I'll be blocking someone who may be =

> legit, and not the spam caller.
>
> I love getting these calls for extending my auto warranty. I make them =

> do the spiel and then tell them I have a 1975 Triumph...
>
> "Oh.=C2=A0 Do you have another vehicle?"
>
> "Yep.=C2=A0 A 1976 Triumph."
>
> *click*
>
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    <p>I have Xfinity voice.=C2=A0 I'm not sure how it happened, but now =
when
      a new number calls my home, they have to press 1 before the call
      will go through to me.=C2=A0 This eliminates 99% of junk calls.<br>=

    </p>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 6/18/2020 7:12 AM, Jeff Scarbrough
      wrote:<br>
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          <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at
            10:07 PM John Miller &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=

              moz-do-not-send=3D"true">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
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          <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
            0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
            rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0I don't answer most
            calls from numbers I <br>
            don't recognize, and in mobile phones there's usually a
            'block as spam' <br>
            button somewhere.</blockquote>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>The problem with that is that about 75% of the calls I
            get have the number spoofed.=C2=A0 A guy in Bangalore is not
            calling me from a number in my area code.=C2=A0 If I block it=
,
            I'll be blocking someone who may be legit, and not the spam
            caller.=C2=A0 <br>
            <br>
            I love getting these calls for extending my auto warranty.=C2=
=A0
            I make them do the spiel and then tell them I have a 1975
            Triumph...</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>"Oh.=C2=A0 Do you have another vehicle?"</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>"Yep.=C2=A0 A 1976 Triumph."</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>*click*</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>=C2=A0</div>
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From: Michael Porter <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 05:32:24 -0600

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On 6/18/2020 5:12 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:
>
>
>
> The problem with that is that about 75% of the calls I get have the 
> number spoofed.  A guy in Bangalore is not calling me from a number in 
> my area code.  If I block it, I'll be blocking someone who may be 
> I love getting these calls for extending my auto warranty. I make them 

Since I only use a land line, YMMV, but, I just put a looooong answer 
message on the phone.  I mean three-four minutes long.  My relatives 
know it's there and they wait, and if I expect to get a business call, I 
warn them in advance, and they wait, too.  In most instances, the 
robocalls and spammers are gone before the message is complete.  The 
rare instances of those from companies on the east coast threatening me 
with bogus legal action that are still relaying a threat when the 
message is over are met with me picking up the phone, and saying, "fraud 
is a felony."  Then I hang up and I don't hear from any of them for a 
few months until they get a new list of phone numbers and start all over 
again.

Kinda low-tech, but it works.

Cheers.

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Michael Porter
Roswell, NM

Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/18/2020 5:12 AM, Jeff Scarbrough
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAO8Q7COj=DnTkjhuZ_3p+yk-pBAKOaeKezZWoN4_aSZzsg=[email-masked]">
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          <div>The problem with that is that about 75% of the calls I
            get have the number spoofed.  A guy in Bangalore is not
            calling me from a number in my area code.  If I block it,
            I'll be blocking someone who may be legit, and not the spam
            caller.  <br>
            <br>
            I love getting these calls for extending my auto warranty. 
            I make them do the spiel and then tell them I have a 1975
            Triumph...</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>"Oh.  Do you have another vehicle?"</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>"Yep.  A 1976 Triumph."</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>*click*</div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Since I only use a land line, YMMV, but, I just put a looooong
      answer message on the phone.  I mean three-four minutes long.  My
      relatives know it's there and they wait, and if I expect to get a
      business call, I warn them in advance, and they wait, too.  In
      most instances, the robocalls and spammers are gone before the
      message is complete.  The rare instances of those from companies
      on the east coast threatening me with bogus legal action that are
      still relaying a threat when the message is over are met with me
      picking up the phone, and saying, "fraud is a felony."  Then I
      hang up and I don't hear from any of them for a few months until
      they get a new list of phone numbers and start all over again.</p>
    <p>Kinda low-tech, but it works.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Cheers.<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
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From: Donald H Locker <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 09:13:46 -0400

My low-tech solution was to set my default ring tone to "silence.mp4"
(which I recorded myself!) Real people with known numbers get a real
ring tone. I'm not bothered by bogus rings, and anyone who needs to
reach me leaves a message if I don't already have a ring tone for their
number.

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On 2020-06-17 10:06 p.m., John Miller wrote:
>> forgiveness" recorded message... if you hit a number to talk to
>> someone to complain they just hang up… I can't find a way to stop
>> them... looking for suggestions
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