Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] air line system install

From: Pat Horne via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 17:42:47 -0600

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Don=E2=80=99t know specifically on air lines, but sewer line recommend fall i=
s 1/4=E2=80=9D/foot with 1/8=E2=80=9D/foot being the flattest slope. Remembe=
r that this slope is based on solid waste flow.=20
My air lines are hard copper with a slope of 1-1/2=E2=80=9D in 20 feet. Even=
 if the line is level, opening up the drain on the air line should produce e=
nough flow to pull the water out of the lines.=20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
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> On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Steve Hammatt, Mount Vernon WA USA via Shop-ta=
lk <[email-masked]> wrote:
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I=E2=80=99m planning the airline system install in my new shop.  It will be
a circle pattern so that it will wrap round the entire room near
ceiling height.  Is anyone familiar with the recommended pitch
or incline recommended for water (condensate) drainage to the
designated vertical drops for line blowdown?
Steve Hammatt
Mount Vernon WA USA
www.leatherplates.com

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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Don=E2=80=99t know specifically on air line=
s, but sewer line recommend fall is 1/4=E2=80=9D/foot with 1/8=E2=80=9D/foot=
 being the flattest slope. Remember that this slope is based on solid waste f=
low.&nbsp;<br>My air lines are hard copper with a slope of 1-1/2=E2=80=9D in=
 20 feet. Even if the line is level, opening up the drain on the air line sh=
ould produce enough flow to pull the water out of the lines.&nbsp;<div><br><=
/div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat</div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp=
;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Steve Hammatt=
, Mount Vernon WA USA via Shop-talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<=
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<div>I=E2=80=99m planning the airline system install in my new shop.&nbsp; I=
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<div>a circle pattern so that it will wrap round the entire room near </div>=

<div>ceiling height.&nbsp; Is anyone familiar with the recommended pitch </d=
iv>
<div>or incline recommended for water (condensate) drainage to the </div>
<div>designated vertical drops for line blowdown?</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">Steve=
=20
Hammatt<br>Mount Vernon WA=20
USA<br>www.leatherplates.com<br><br><br></div></div></div>
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From: Eric Russell via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 20:30:24 -0500

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TP Tools has info on air lines. Note the risers before the drops - they 
come off the top of the horizontal lines. Presumably this would minimize 
getting condensed water into the drops.

https://cached.tptools.com/Images/airline-piping-diagram.pdf

Eric Russell
Mebane, NC

On 3/4/2020 6:32 PM, Steve Hammatt, Mount Vernon WA USA via Shop-talk wrote:
> I’m planning the airline system install in my new shop. It will be

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    <p>TP Tools has info on air lines. Note the risers before the drops
      - they come off the top of the horizontal lines. Presumably this
      would minimize getting condensed water into the drops. <br>
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    Eric Russell<br>
    Mebane, NC <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/4/2020 6:32 PM, Steve Hammatt,
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          <div>I’m planning the airline system install in my new shop. 
            It will be </div>
          <div>a circle pattern so that it will wrap round the entire
            room near </div>
          <div>ceiling height.  Is anyone familiar with the recommended
            pitch </div>
          <div>or incline recommended for water (condensate) drainage to
            the </div>
          <div>designated vertical drops for line blowdown?</div>
          <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR:
            #000000">Steve Hammatt</div>
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From: Ronnie Day via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 18:24:08 -0600

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Check out the TP Tools website. They offer a lot of info on setting up air
supply systems.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 5:43 PM Pat Horne via Shop-talk <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Don=E2=80=99t know specifically on air lines, but sewer line recommend fa=
ll is
> 1/4=E2=80=9D/foot with 1/8=E2=80=9D/foot being the flattest slope. Rememb=
er that this slope
> is based on solid waste flow.
> My air lines are hard copper with a slope of 1-1/2=E2=80=9D in 20 feet. E=
ven if
> the line is level, opening up the drain on the air line should produce
> enough flow to pull the water out of the lines.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Steve Hammatt, Mount Vernon WA USA via
> Shop-talk <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> I=E2=80=99m planning the airline system install in my new shop.  It will =
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Check out the TP Tools website. They offer a lot of info o=
n setting up air supply systems.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 5:43 PM Pat Horne vi=
a Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">shop-talk@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Don=E2=80=99t know specifically on air lines, =
but sewer line recommend fall is 1/4=E2=80=9D/foot with 1/8=E2=80=9D/foot b=
eing the flattest slope. Remember that this slope is based on solid waste f=
low.=C2=A0<br>My air lines are hard copper with a slope of 1-1/2=E2=80=9D i=
n 20 feet. Even if the line is level, opening up the drain on the air line =
should produce enough flow to pull the water out of the lines.=C2=A0<div><b=
r></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat</div><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne=
=C2=A0<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 4, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Steve =
Hammatt, Mount Vernon WA USA via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r><br></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div>I=E2=80=99m planning the airline system install in my new shop.=C2=A0 =
It will be=20
</div>
<div>a circle pattern so that it will wrap round the entire room near </div=
<div>ceiling height.=C2=A0 Is anyone familiar with the recommended pitch </=
div>
<div>or incline recommended for water (condensate) drainage to the </div>
<div>designated vertical drops for line blowdown?</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Steve=20
Hammatt<br>Mount Vernon WA=20
USA<br><a href=3D"http://www.leatherplates.com" target=3D"_blank">www.leath=
erplates.com</a><br><br><br></div></div></div>
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