Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] sound bars, older flat screens, not that big of an audiophile and OT

From: John Innis via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 17:42:07 -0500

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If your soundbar has speaker-wire type inputs, you probably can't feed it
directly from the TV.  It will need some sort of amplifier to bring the
line level output from the TV (RCA jacks) up to speaker level.  You could
get a new receiver, they go pretty cheap on WOOT and monoprice.  Or you
could get a new soundbar with a line level input ( I have seen some good
deals at Sams club on these).

John

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 5:14 PM Tim . via Shop-talk <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> Hope everyone is safe and healthy.
>
> I have a Sharp Aquos flat screen that is on borrowed time. A friend bought
> the same exact size and model about the same time we did and his died three
> or so years ago. I assume mine is still alive because we turn off the power
> filter every night.
>
> Anyway, while the flat screen still works and the picture is still decent
> (I just try VERY HARD to not compare it to the modern flat screens), the
> audio is getting bad about a quick as my hearing.
>
> I have a Bose speaker system, 301s, 701s and a sound bar, that I can feed
> from my stereo. But, the stereo really needs to be replaced and the remote
> for it is dead. So, I can either buy a universal remote which I don't want
> to do for an outdated receiver, or I can try to feed the sound bar direct
> from the TV.
>
> My issue is, the sound bar is proper wires into pinch connectors and the
> TV is RCA jacks.
>
> Am I over thinking this or can I simply take and RCA cable and cut the
> female end off and put the wires into my sound bar? Or should I but an
> adapter? I am looking for cheap-ish since at some point I'll have to buy a
> new flat screen that will hopefully be able to feed my speakers properly.
>
> Thanks
> stay healthy
> tim
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>If your soundbar has speaker-wire type inputs, you pr=
obably can&#39;t feed it directly from the TV.=C2=A0 It will need some sort=
 of amplifier to bring the line level output from the TV (RCA jacks) up to =
speaker level.=C2=A0 You could get a new receiver, they go pretty cheap on =
WOOT and monoprice.=C2=A0 Or you could get a new soundbar with a line level=
 input ( I have seen some good deals at Sams club on these).</div><div><br>=
</div><div>John<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 5:14 PM Tim . via Shop-tal=
k &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
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Hey guys,=C2=A0</div>
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:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Hope everyone is safe and healthy.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
I have a Sharp Aquos flat screen that is on borrowed time. A friend bought =
the same exact size and model about the same time we did and his died three=
 or so years ago. I assume mine is still alive because we turn off the powe=
r filter every night.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Anyway, while the flat screen still works and the picture is still decent (=
I just try VERY HARD to not compare it to the modern flat screens), the aud=
io is getting bad about a quick as my hearing.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
I have a Bose speaker system, 301s, 701s and a sound bar, that I can feed f=
rom my stereo. But, the stereo really needs to be replaced and the remote f=
or it is dead. So, I can either buy a universal remote which I don&#39;t wa=
nt to do for an outdated receiver, or
 I can try to feed the sound bar direct from the TV.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
My issue is, the sound bar is proper wires into pinch connectors and the TV=
 is RCA jacks.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Am I over thinking this or can I simply take and RCA cable and cut the fema=
le end off and put the wires into my sound bar? Or should I but an adapter?=
 I am looking for cheap-ish since at some point I&#39;ll have to buy a new =
flat screen that will hopefully be able
 to feed my speakers properly.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Thanks</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
stay healthy</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
tim</div>
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From: Jeff Scarbrough via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 18:46:19 -0400

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What about something like this?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/597466-REG/Pyle_Pro_PCA2_PCA2_Mini_2_x.html

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 6:42 PM John Innis via Shop-talk <
[email-masked]> wrote:

>> I have a Sharp Aquos flat screen that is on borrowed time. A friend
>> bought the same exact size and model about the same time we did and his
>> died three or so years ago. I assume mine is still alive because we turn
>> off the power filter every night.
>>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr">What about something like this?<div><br></div><div><a href=
=3D"https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/597466-REG/Pyle_Pro_PCA2_PCA2_Mi=
ni_2_x.html">https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/597466-REG/Pyle_Pro_PCA=
2_PCA2_Mini_2_x.html</a>=C2=A0=C2=A0<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 6:42 =
PM John Innis via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>If your soundbar has speaker=
-wire type inputs, you probably can&#39;t feed it directly from the TV.=C2=
=A0 It will need some sort of amplifier to bring the line level output from=
 the TV (RCA jacks) up to speaker level.=C2=A0 You could get a new receiver=
, they go pretty cheap on WOOT and monoprice.=C2=A0 Or you could get a new =
soundbar with a line level input ( I have seen some good deals at Sams club=
 on these).</div><div><br></div><div>John<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at =
5:14 PM Tim . via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

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From: Ronnie Day via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
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What model number is the TV? Our first couple of flat screens years were
Aquos. I don't remember them having speaker level outputs, just line level.
You can't/shouldn't try to drive a line level input with a speaker level
signal. You can use a small two or three piece powered speaker system
designed primarily for computer use. The inputs to those are usually 3.5 mm
stereo plugs so you'd need an adapter if the audio outs on the TV are RCA
as I expect they are. ll sorts of choices and prices floating around that
should work for you now and later.

RD

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 5:47 PM Jeff Scarbrough via Shop-talk <
[email-masked]> wrote:

>>> Anyway, while the flat screen still works and the picture is still
>>> decent (I just try VERY HARD to not compare it to the modern flat screens),
>>> the audio is getting bad about a quick as my hearing.
>>>
>>> I have a Bose speaker system, 301s, 701s and a sound bar, that I can
>>> feed from my stereo. But, the stereo really needs to be replaced and the
>>> remote for it is dead. So, I can either buy a universal remote which I
>>> don't want to do for an outdated receiver, or I can try to feed the sound
>>> bar direct from the TV.
>>>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
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>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">What model number is the TV? Our first couple of flat scre=
ens years were Aquos. I don&#39;t remember=C2=A0them having speaker level o=
utputs, just line level. You can&#39;t/shouldn&#39;t try to drive a line le=
vel input with a speaker level signal. You can use a small two or three pie=
ce powered speaker system designed primarily for computer use. The inputs t=
o those are usually=C2=A03.5 mm stereo plugs so you&#39;d need an adapter i=
f the audio outs on the TV are RCA as I expect they are. ll sorts of choice=
s and prices floating around that should work for you now and later.<div><b=
r></div><div>RD</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 5:47 PM Jeff Scarbrough via Sh=
op-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">What about something like this?<div><br></div><div><a=
 href=3D"https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/597466-REG/Pyle_Pro_PCA2_PC=
A2_Mini_2_x.html" target=3D"_blank">https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/=
597466-REG/Pyle_Pro_PCA2_PCA2_Mini_2_x.html</a>=C2=A0=C2=A0<br></div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu=
, Mar 26, 2020 at 6:42 PM John Innis via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sh=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div>If your soundbar has speaker-wire type inputs, you probably c=
an&#39;t feed it directly from the TV.=C2=A0 It will need some sort of ampl=
ifier to bring the line level output from the TV (RCA jacks) up to speaker =
level.=C2=A0 You could get a new receiver, they go pretty cheap on WOOT and=
 monoprice.=C2=A0 Or you could get a new soundbar with a line level input (=
 I have seen some good deals at Sams club on these).</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>John<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 5:14 PM Tim . via Shop-talk &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">

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From: "Tim . via Shop-talk" <[email-masked]>
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Thanks guys.

________________________________
From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Tim . via S=
hop-talk <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:13 PM
To: Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] sound bars, older flat screens, not that big of an aud=
iophile and OT

Hey guys,

r filter every night.

Anyway, while the flat screen still works and the picture is still decent (=
I just try VERY HARD to not compare it to the modern flat screens), the aud=
io is getting bad about a quick as my hearing.

I have a Bose speaker system, 301s, 701s and a sound bar, that I can feed f=
rom my stereo. But, the stereo really needs to be replaced and the remote f=
or it is dead. So, I can either buy a universal remote which I don't want t=
o do for an outdated receiver, or I can try to feed the sound bar direct fr=
om the TV.

 is RCA jacks.

Am I over thinking this or can I simply take and RCA cable and cut the fema=
le end off and put the wires into my sound bar? Or should I but an adapter?=
 I am looking for cheap-ish since at some point I'll have to buy a new flat=
 screen that will hopefully be able to feed my speakers properly.

Thanks
stay healthy
tim

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I have a Sharp Aquos flat screen that is on borrowed time. A friend bought =
the same exact size and model about the same time we did and his died three=
 or so years ago. I assume mine is still alive because we turn off the powe=
r filter every night.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
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or:rgb(0,0,0)">
Anyway, while the flat screen still works and the picture is still decent (=
I just try VERY HARD to not compare it to the modern flat screens), the aud=
io is getting bad about a quick as my hearing.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; col=
or:rgb(0,0,0)">
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I have a Bose speaker system, 301s, 701s and a sound bar, that I can feed f=
rom my stereo. But, the stereo really needs to be replaced and the remote f=
or it is dead. So, I can either buy a universal remote which I don't want t=
o do for an outdated receiver, or
 I can try to feed the sound bar direct from the TV.&nbsp;</div>
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My issue is, the sound bar is proper wires into pinch connectors and the TV=
 is RCA jacks.&nbsp;</div>
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Am I over thinking this or can I simply take and RCA cable and cut the fema=
le end off and put the wires into my sound bar? Or should I but an adapter?=
 I am looking for cheap-ish since at some point I'll have to buy a new flat=
 screen that will hopefully be able
 to feed my speakers properly.&nbsp;</div>
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Thanks</div>
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stay healthy</div>
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