Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Hoses

From: Paul Parkanzky via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 08:35:55 -0500

Any of the quality natural rubber hoses will stiffen less in cold
weather. That's a "buy once, cry once" purchase.

For bleeding brakes, the best I've been able to come up with is Tygon
tubing and then just have it warmed up before you want to use it. So
either keep it in the house that morning or run a heat gun (or even
your propane torch) along the length that you're going to use right
before you bleed brakes or fill a diff or whatever.

-Paul

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 8:22 AM Gene Abbondelo via Shop-talk
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> Need some recommendations on a decent air line hose for my garage that stays pliable in cold weather.
>
> Also need recommendations on clear hose to use on a brake bleeder setup.  Hose that won't get hard and brittle.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gene
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 08:45:37 -0500

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I second this. Bought a 25' for a small second mortgage and I've added =
enough years to my life by not yelling at the plastic hose to pay it =
off. Buy quality high flow couplings white you're at it. I've had this =
link saved:

https://toolguyd.com/quick-guide-to-air-line-couplers-plugs/

jim

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From: "Tim . via Shop-talk" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 14:34:03 +0000

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I bought a (goodyear stamped on the hose) rubber air hose at horriblefreigh=
t some years ago--I don't remember if there was more than once "brand" choi=
ce. It's been great so far. I live in Wisconsin and it does get used in the=
 middle of winter regularly as tyres loose pressure in the cold.

tim

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Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:21 AM
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] Hoses

Need some recommendations on a decent air line hose for my garage that stay=
s pliable in cold weather.

Also need recommendations on clear hose to use on a brake bleeder setup.  H=
ose that won't get hard and brittle.

Thanks,

Gene

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t some years ago--I don't remember if there was more than once &quot;brand&=
quot; choice. It's been great so far. I live in Wisconsin and it does get u=
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<div>Need some recommendations on a decent air line hose for my garage that=
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p.&nbsp; Hose that won't get hard and brittle.</div>
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<div>Gene</div>
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From: Brian and Wendy via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 14:54:33 +0000

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I don't buy any of the pre-made hoses. I go to my local hose and fitting st=
ore and get a length of the hose for push on fittings. The push on fittings=
 work great and no hose clamp involved. This type of hose is good quality. =
Plus it is easy to make custom lengths if needed

Here is  McMaster link to the type of hose I am talking about.

https://www.mcmaster.com/air-hose/air-hose-for-push-on-fittings/

Fittings

https://www.mcmaster.com/push-on-hose-fittings

Brian Warrick
Nampa, ID

Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 6:21 AM

Thanks,

Gene

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I don't buy any of the pre-made hoses. I go to my local hose and fitting st=
ore and get a length of the hose for push on fittings. The push on fittings=
 work great and no hose clamp involved. This type of hose is good quality. =
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<b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] Hoses</font>
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<div>Need some recommendations on a decent air line hose for my garage that=
 stays pliable in cold weather.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also need recommendations on clear hose to use on a brake bleeder setu=
p.&nbsp; Hose that won't get hard and brittle.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
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<div>Gene</div>
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From: Donald H Locker via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 10:32:09 -0500

I'm with the Tygon tubing for bleeding brakes. I also do it slightly 
differently - rather than dangle the end of the tube into a jar, I use a 
long length and suspend the non-bleedscrew end up in the air where I can 
see it from the cockpit.

This keeps the bleedscrew "pressurised" with fluif* (to prevent air from 
entering when I release the pedal) and allows me to see when air bubbles 
stop rising from the cylinder/caliper (and lets me know when I have to 
drain the tube because it's getting too full). My only helper is a 
stepladder and clip.

HTH,
Donald.
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From: John Miller via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 08:52:30 -0800

On 3/5/2020 6:34 AM, Tim . via Shop-talk wrote:
> I bought a (goodyear stamped on the hose) rubber air hose at 
> horriblefreight some years ago--I don't remember if there was more than 
> once "brand" choice. It's been great so far. I live in Wisconsin and it 
> does get used in the middle of winter regularly as tyres loose pressure 
> in the cold.

Air:

(a) Rubber hose.

(b) Distributed clamping and strain reliefs at fittings - I use 2-3 
Oetiker-style band clamps with a layer or two of heavy heat-shrink over 
the clamps extending out onto the hose.

(c) A lighter-duty more flexible (and presumably stored indoors) whip 
hose on the tool/tire chuck will reduce stress on the end of the hose, 
where it'll most likely fail.

(d) Then you cut it back six inches and do it again.

Clear brake-bleeder tubing:

(a) Whatever you buy, buy three times what you need so you have it to 
swap out when you need to.

(b) McMaster-Carr as a source.

I don't use clear hoses for brake bleeding, I think mine are silicone. 
I use three-packs of ketchup bottles from Smart & Final with a piece of 
hard brake line down to the bottom of the bottle, the hose over both the 
hard line and the squeeze-spout, and a clamp to hold them together. 
Add 1in of brake fluid in bottom of bottle, connect, crack bleeder, then 
bleed until you've got ~2in of fluid in the bottle.   You can also add a 
loop of fishing line to hang the bottle from the bleed screw.

John.

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From: Mark Andy via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 08:57:21 -0500

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Howdy,

These days, it seems like most mechanics have gotten rid of air tools
almost entirely and gone the battery route.  I'm very much not a pro, but I
can't say that I miss tripping over air hoses now that I've updated to
battery powered impact guns, in particular.

FWIW.

Mark

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 8:45 AM Jim Franklin via Shop-talk <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> I second this. Bought a 25' for a small second mortgage and I've added
> enough years to my life by not yelling at the plastic hose to pay it off.
> Buy quality high flow couplings white you're at it. I've had this link
> saved:
>
> > On Mar 5, 2020, at 8:21 AM, Gene Abbondelo via Shop-talk <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> > Also need recommendations on clear hose to use on a brake bleeder
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,<div><br></div><div>These days, it seems like most m=
echanics have gotten rid of air tools almost entirely and gone the battery =
route.=C2=A0 I&#39;m very much not a pro, but I can&#39;t say that I miss t=
ripping over air hoses now that I&#39;ve updated to battery powered impact =
guns, in particular.<br><br>FWIW.</div><div><br>Mark</div></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 5, 20=
20 at 8:45 AM Jim Franklin via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@au=
tox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I second this. Bought a 25&#39; for a=
 small second mortgage and I&#39;ve added enough years to my life by not ye=
lling at the plastic hose to pay it off. Buy quality high flow couplings wh=
ite you&#39;re at it. I&#39;ve had this link saved:<br>
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<a href=3D"https://toolguyd.com/quick-guide-to-air-line-couplers-plugs/" re=
l=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://toolguyd.com/quick-guide-to-air-=
line-couplers-plugs/</a><br>
<br>
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.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Need some recommendations on a decent air line hose for my garage that=
 stays pliable in cold weather.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Also need recommendations on clear hose to use on a brake bleeder setu=
p.=C2=A0 Hose that won&#39;t get hard and brittle.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Gene<br>
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