Subject: [Shop-talk] Miter saw blade for plastic tiles

From: John Mitchell via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 19:18:17 -0500

I'm putting down racedeck type garage tiles and I'm wondering what the 
best blade is for my miter saw.  Should I get the finest tooth blade I 
can find or will a 60 tooth 12" blade suffice?

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From: Steven Trovato via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 20:36:32 -0500

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I found lots of opinions on this, including some people who put the 
blade on the saw backwards!  Yes, on purpose.  I don't know about 
that, but  I found this:

<https://www.garageflooringllc.com/2014/06/23/cut-garage-floor-tile/>https://www.garageflooringllc.com/2014/06/23/cut-garage-floor-tile/ 

There seem to be a lot of different approaches to this.  I guess if 
it was me, I would try it with whatever blade I have.  If I wasn't 
happy with that, I'd try a fine tooth laminate blade.

-Steve

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I found lots of opinions on this, including some people who put the blade
on the saw backwards!&nbsp; Yes, on purpose.&nbsp; I don't know about
that, but&nbsp; I found this:<br><br>
<a href="https://www.garageflooringllc.com/2014/06/23/cut-garage-floor-tile/">
https://www.garageflooringllc.com/2014/06/23/cut-garage-floor-tile/</a>
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There seem to be a lot of different approaches to this.&nbsp; I guess if
it was me, I would try it with whatever blade I have.&nbsp; If I wasn't
happy with that, I'd try a fine tooth laminate blade.&nbsp; <br><br>
-Steve<br><br>
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From: old dirtbeard via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2019 17:52:14 -0800

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From: old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Miter saw blade for plastic tiles
To: John Mitchell <[email-masked]>

Hi John,

I just put down 980 sq ft of Racedeck tile in my garage and used the
regular multipurpose 10" blade that was on my compound miter saw. Worked
fine, but it threw plastic chips everywhere.

I eventually took it outdoors and sawed them there, but it still made a big
mess.

If I had it to do over, I would use a very fine blade or something else to
cut them. I was cleaning-up plastic chips for weeks...

best,

doug

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Hi John,<div><br></div><div>I just put down 980 sq ft of Racedeck tile in m=
y garage and used the regular multipurpose=C2=A010&quot; blade that was on =
my compound miter saw. Worked fine, but it threw plastic chips everywhere.=
=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I eventually took it outdoors and sawed the=
m there, but it still made a big mess.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>If I =
had it to do over, I would use a very fine blade or something else to cut t=
hem. I was cleaning-up plastic chips for weeks...</div><div><br></div><div>=
best,</div><div><br></div><div>doug</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 4:18 PM Jo=
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te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I&#39;m putting down racedeck type=
 garage tiles and I&#39;m wondering what the <br>
best blade is for my miter saw.=C2=A0 Should I get the finest tooth blade I=
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can find or will a 60 tooth 12&quot; blade suffice?<br>
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From: Paul Parkanzky via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 10:15:23 -0500

My current favorite flooring for my rentals is Quality Craft's
"Expressa" vinyl planking. One of the biggest selling points for me is
that it's solid PVC all the way through so it's genuinely completely
waterproof (You could store it in your swimming pool for a season and
still install it). Another upside to that is that it's super easy to
work with. It cuts great on a power miter saw, with a jig saw, a
dremel, etc.

Finer toothed blades make a slightly nicer cut but are a bit slower
(It won't matter much, no matter what you do it cuts like butter).
However, your options are a coarser blade and big piles of fluffy
chips or a fine-toothed blade and endless PVC dust (I'd wear a mask if
you choose the latter). Because of that, I just cut it with a normal
wood blade and sweep/shopvac up garbage bags full of chips.

I think you're facing the same decision with your RaceDeck.

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From: Jeff Scarbrough via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 07:13:57 -0500

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On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 8:37 PM Steven Trovato via Shop-talk <
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> on the saw backwards!  Yes, on purpose.
>

I've built a lot of research equipment out of PVC pipe.  Table saw with the
blade on backwards makes absolutely the smoothest cut ever.

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

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From: old dirtbeard via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 07:48:30 -0800

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Thanks Jeff,

Does it reduce the amount of chip/dust mess?

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> I've built a lot of research equipment out of PVC pipe.  Table saw with
> the blade on backwards makes absolutely the smoothest cut ever.
>
> Jeff Scarbrough
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.

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I found lots of opinions on this, including some people who put the blade
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br></div><div>I&#39;ve built a lot of research equipment out of PVC pipe.=
=C2=A0 Table saw with the blade on backwards makes absolutely the smoothest=
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Corrosion Acres, Ga.</div></div></div>
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From: Mike Rambour via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 08:09:17 -0800

I cut mine on my table saw with my regular wood blade, there was some 
melting but not much.  Other tiles I cut with my sabre saw.

  I remember reading where someone suggested putting the saw blade on 
backwards to cut Racedeck, but my saw (Sawstop) wont work with the blade 
backwards so I never even tried.

  You are going to love the tiles, had mine about 15 years now, just be 
careful when you weld or use your plasma cutter :)

     mike

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From: John Mitchell via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 13:17:28 -0500

I've had some tiles down for 2 years and suddenly they started to curl 
up around the edges.  I installed them with plenty of gap for 
expansion.  I sent "Garage Floors" pictures and suddenly I had a 
delivery of all new tiles.  I assume others may have had similar 
problems with that batch.  Did you ever stick a hot dog into the saw stop?

On 11/12/2019 11:09 AM, Mike Rambour via Shop-talk wrote:
> backwards to cut Racedeck, but my saw (Sawstop) wont work with the 
> blade backwards so I never even tried.
>
>> I'm putting down racedeck type garage tiles and I'm wondering what 
>> the best blade is for my miter saw.  Should I get the finest tooth 
>> blade I can find or will a 60 tooth 12" blade suffice?
>>
>>

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From: Mike Rambour via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:34:46 -0800

No never tried the hot dog trick, I went with my finger.  Well, with 
my old saw after 35 years of no accidents, I sliced my finger with my 
table saw, nothing too serious, its still there.  But I did get a little 
scared and went and got a Sawstop and replaced my Unisaw, my wife 
figured as I get older, I may get a little more forgetful and besides my 
Unisaw was a 1.75HP model, so it was time to upgrade to 3HP anyway :)

     mike

On 11/12/2019 10:17 AM, John Mitchell wrote:
>>  I cut mine on my table saw with my regular wood blade, there was 
>> some melting but not much.  Other tiles I cut with my sabre saw.
>>
>>  You are going to love the tiles, had mine about 15 years now, just 
>> be careful when you weld or use your plasma cutter :)
>>
>>     mike
>>

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From: Jeff Scarbrough via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 10:03:53 -0500

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> Does it reduce the amount of chip/dust mess?
As I recall, I ended up with a pile of flakes.  No messier than cutting
anything else.

> Do you think this would work on a sliding miter saw?  Does it matter how
fine a blade?

I used maybe a 40-tooth blade.  On a sliding saw, I'd be very wary of
something getting out of control - you're holding the material, you're
holding the saw...and you're doing something that's definitely
non-standard.  Probably void ing a warranty, too.  :)

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4,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"auto">Does it reduce the amount of chip/dust mess?</div></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"></b=
lockquote></div></blockquote><div><br>As I recall, I ended up with a pile o=
f flakes.=C2=A0 No messier than cutting anything else.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>&gt; Do you think this would work on a sliding miter saw?=C2=A0 Does i=
t matter how fine a blade?</div><div><br></div><div>I used maybe a 40-tooth=
 blade.=C2=A0 On a sliding saw, I&#39;d be very wary of something getting o=
ut of control - you&#39;re holding the material, you&#39;re holding the saw=
...and you&#39;re doing something that&#39;s definitely non-standard.=C2=A0=
 Probably void ing a warranty, too.=C2=A0 :)</div><div><br></div><div><br><=
/div><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div>

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