Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tire balancing

From: Steven Trovato via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2019 18:11:50 -0500

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All the stuff you guys are saying is exactly what 
I always understood.  I am quite sure they are 
not doing on the car balancing.  Especially not 
for this tire, because I just brought in the 
loose wheel while I kept using the car with the 
spare.  I cannot report what was actually done 
because the garage area is completely separate 
from where the customer gets to be.  Maybe if it 
was a hot summer day I could peek in the open 
garage door.     The main question I had is 
whether different balancing on front and rear was 
now a "thing."  Apparently not.  Thanks.

-Steve

At 05:56 PM 11/4/2019, Ian McFetridge wrote:
>Got me at a loss, unless it is done on the car 
>and they are also balancing the rotating 
>assembly, do front/rear could matter.=C2  It would 
>be telling to report what he actually does.
>
>On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 5:53 PM Benjamin Zwissler 
>via Shop-talk 
>Well, I vote he has no clue what he's talking 
>about.=C2  What I learned was that static and spin 
>balancing were not the same thing.=C2  Static was 
>done with a bubble balance without 
>spinning.=C2  Spinning meant spinning.=C2  There was 
>spinning on the car and spinning off the car, 
>but I don't think anyone does it on the car anymore.
>I don't know why they would balance front and 
>back differently, seems like balanced is balanced regardless of front or r=
ear.
>On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 5:32 PM Steven Trovato via 
e:
>
>Two years ago, I purchased a set of Michelin tires for my Ford
>Expedition at BJs.=C2  It was not a great experience, and I don't think
>I'd do it again.=C2  The tires do come with a road hazard warranty,
>though, and free flat repair.=C2  I got a puncture in the right rear
>yesterday, so I ventured down to BJs once again.=C2  The guy there asked
>me if it was a front or rear tire.=C2  He said they balance them
>differently.=C2  He said it was "statically balanced" but on a machine
>that spins it and uses lasers.=C2  I don't know what he is talking
>about.=C2  I told him it is a rear tire, but that shouldn't matter,
>because it will be a front tire when I rotate them.=C2  He told me I
>shouldn't do that.=C2  I have to bring the vehicle to them to rotate and
>re-balance.=C2  None of this makes any sense to me.=C2  Have things change=
d
>drastically or is this guy nuts?=C2  I should note that all this stuff
>is free when you buy the tires there, so I don't really see any
>financial motive for them to want to do this.
>
>-Steve

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All the stuff you guys are saying is exactly what I always
understood.&nbsp; I am quite sure they are not doing on the car
balancing.&nbsp; Especially not for this tire, because I just brought in
the loose wheel while I kept using the car with the spare.&nbsp; I cannot
report what was actually done because the garage area is completely
separate from where the customer gets to be.&nbsp; Maybe if it was a hot
summer day I could peek in the open garage door.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
The main question I had is whether different balancing on front and rear
was now a &quot;thing.&quot;&nbsp; Apparently not.&nbsp; Thanks.
<br><br>
-Steve<br><br>
At 05:56 PM 11/4/2019, Ian McFetridge wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">Got me at a loss, unless it =
is
done on the car and they are also balancing the rotating assembly, do
front/rear could matter.=C2&nbsp; It would be telling to report what he
actually does.<br><br>
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 5:53 PM Benjamin Zwissler via Shop-talk
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
&gt; wrote:
<dl>
<dd>Well, I vote he has no clue what he's talking about.=C2&nbsp; What I
learned was that static and spin balancing were not the same
thing.=C2&nbsp; Static was done with a bubble balance without
spinning.=C2&nbsp; Spinning meant spinning.=C2&nbsp; There was spinning on
the car and spinning off the car, but I don't think anyone does it on the
car anymore.<br>

<dd>I don't know why they would balance front and back differently, seems
like balanced is balanced regardless of front or rear.<br>

<dd>On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 5:32 PM Steven Trovato via Shop-talk
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
&gt; wrote:<br><br>

<dl>
<dd>Two years ago, I purchased a set of Michelin tires for my Ford 
<dd>Expedition at BJs.=C2&nbsp; It was not a great experience, and I don't
think 
<dd>I'd do it again.=C2&nbsp; The tires do come with a road hazard
warranty, 
<dd>though, and free flat repair.=C2&nbsp; I got a puncture in the right
rear 
<dd>yesterday, so I ventured down to BJs once again.=C2&nbsp; The guy there=

asked 
<dd>me if it was a front or rear tire.=C2&nbsp; He said they balance them 
<dd>differently.=C2&nbsp; He said it was &quot;statically balanced&quot;
but on a machine 
<dd>that spins it and uses lasers.=C2&nbsp; I don't know what he is talking=
 
<dd>about.=C2&nbsp; I told him it is a rear tire, but that shouldn't
matter, 
<dd>because it will be a front tire when I rotate them.=C2&nbsp; He told me=

I 
<dd>shouldn't do that.=C2&nbsp; I have to bring the vehicle to them to
rotate and 
<dd>re-balance.=C2&nbsp; None of this makes any sense to me.=C2&nbsp; Have
things changed 
<dd>drastically or is this guy nuts?=C2&nbsp; I should note that all this
stuff 
<dd>is free when you buy the tires there, so I don't really see any 
<dd>financial motive for them to want to do this.<br><br>

<dd>-Steve
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