Subject: [Shop-talk] De-coupling overhead door torsion spring

From: Scott Hall via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 22:39:15 -0500

Got a new insulated garage door for winter here. Need to remove the old 
door.

Torsion springs seem to be one of those things that drive emergency room 
visits in real life, not just internet clickbait.

Before I just do what Google says, I think I'd like to hear from the 
real people on a subject like that. Can I somehow un-do the cable ends 
from the door, or the cables from the springs and then remove the door 
panels, or do I need to de-tension the torsion spring first?

And if I need to de-tension it, what's the best method to avoid smashed 
skulls or broken limbs?

Thanks in advance.

Scott

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From: Bill Rabel via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 08:02:38 -0700

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I can=E2=80=99t stop adding my 2 cents. When the tension is right, you shoul=
d be able to unlatch the door from the drive chain and lift the door easily b=
y hand. This is important during a power outage.=20

- Bill Rabel
  Anacortes WA

=E2=80=9CPolitics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it e=
xists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedy.=E2=80=
=9D - Sir Ernest Benn

> On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:59 AM, old dirtbeard via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> HI Scott,
>=20
> I am a non-garage door expert, and was able to retention my garage door sp=
rings with no problem. I bought a three foot length of steel rod from Home D=
epot, cut it in half, taped up what would be the "handle" portion to reduce t=
he chance of slippage, used an adjustable wrench on the square head retainin=
g bolts and was able to do it myself with no problems. I have two sets of ga=
rage doors, and later adjusted the tension of the second door as it was clos=
ing too fast/hard.
>=20
> Having the bars at the ready allows one to make minor adjustments to the d=
oors over time as the spring lose tension. I just keep them on the header be=
am above the doors so they are there when I need them next time.
>=20
> There is a good deal of tension on the springs, but if a normal man uses a=
 degree of care, is standing on a decent ladder, and use both bars increment=
ally, sequentially, it is a very quick job to do. I am glad that I did it my=
self and now can "fine tune" the adjustment on the doors whenever necessary.=

>=20
> best,
>=20
> doug
>=20
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:30 PM Brian Kemp via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
>> Scott - I'd call a local garage door place for an estimate on the=20
>> springs.  You might find it is very reasonable.  It is tough and you=20
>> need the correct diameter steel rods that will fit the holes nicely.  Do=20=

>> not stand where the rod can hit you.  Since you are switching to an=20
>> insulated door, it might be heavier, so you will have to tension the=20
>> door differently.
>>=20
>> Installing a door is best as a two person job.  Maybe the installer has=20=

>> a guy that can stop by after hours and help you out for a reasonable amou=
nt.
>>=20
>> Brian
>>=20
>> On 10/14/2019 8:39 PM, Scott Hall via Shop-talk wrote:
>> > Got a new insulated garage door for winter here. Need to remove the=20
>> > old door.
>> >
>> >
>> > Torsion springs seem to be one of those things that drive emergency=20
>> > room visits in real life, not just internet clickbait.
>> >
>> >
>> > Before I just do what Google says, I think I'd like to hear from the=20=

>> > real people on a subject like that. Can I somehow un-do the cable ends=20=

>> > from the door, or the cables from the springs and then remove the door=20=

>> > And if I need to de-tension it, what's the best method to avoid=20
>> > smashed skulls or broken limbs?
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I can=E2=80=99t stop adding my 2 cents. Whe=
n the tension is right, you should be able to unlatch the door from the driv=
e chain and lift the door easily by hand. This is important during a power o=
utage.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>- Bill Rabel</div><div>&nbsp; Anacortes WA<b=
r><br><div dir=3D"ltr">

<p class=3D"p1"><span class=3D"s1">=E2=80=9CPolitics is the art of looking f=
or trouble, finding it </span><span class=3D"s2">whether it exists or not</s=
pan><span class=3D"s1">, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong </=
span><span class=3D"s2">remedy.=E2=80=9D&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 13pt; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">- Sir Ernest Benn</span>=
</p></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Oct 16, 2019, at=
 5:59 AM, old dirtbeard via Shop-talk &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote=
:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">HI Scott,<div><br></div><div>I am a non-garage door expe=
rt, and was able to retention&nbsp;my garage door springs with no problem. I=
 bought a three foot length&nbsp;of steel rod from Home Depot, cut it in hal=
f, taped up what would be the "handle" portion to reduce the chance of slipp=
age, used an adjustable wrench on the square head retaining bolts and was ab=
le to do it myself&nbsp;with no problems. I have two sets of garage doors, a=
nd later adjusted&nbsp;the tension of the second door as it was closing too f=
ast/hard.</div><div><br></div><div>Having the bars at the ready allows one t=
o make minor adjustments to the doors over time as the spring lose tension. I=
 just keep them on the header beam above the doors so they are there when I n=
eed them next&nbsp;time.</div><div><br></div><div>There is a good deal of te=
nsion on the springs, but if a normal man uses a degree of care, is standing=
 on a decent ladder, and use both bars incrementally, sequentially, it is a v=
ery quick job to do. I am glad that I did it myself and now can "fine tune" t=
he adjustment on the doors whenever necessary.</div><div><br></div><div>best=
,</div><div><br></div><div>doug</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:30 PM Brian Ke=
mp via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">shop-talk@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">Scott - I'd call a local garage door place for an estimate on the=
 <br>
springs.&nbsp; You might find it is very reasonable.&nbsp; It is tough and y=
ou <br>
need the correct diameter steel rods that will fit the holes nicely.&nbsp; D=
o <br>
not stand where the rod can hit you.&nbsp; Since you are switching to an <br=
insulated door, it might be heavier, so you will have to tension the <br>
door differently.<br>
<br>
Installing a door is best as a two person job.&nbsp; Maybe the installer has=
 <br>
a guy that can stop by after hours and help you out for a reasonable amount.=
<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
<br>
On 10/14/2019 8:39 PM, Scott Hall via Shop-talk wrote:<br>
&gt; Got a new insulated garage door for winter here. Need to remove the <br=
&gt; old door.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Torsion springs seem to be one of those things that drive emergency <br=
&gt; room visits in real life, not just internet clickbait.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Before I just do what Google says, I think I'd like to hear from the <b=
r>
&gt; real people on a subject like that. Can I somehow un-do the cable ends <=
br>
&gt; from the door, or the cables from the springs and then remove the door <=
br>
&gt; panels, or do I need to de-tension the torsion spring first?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; And if I need to de-tension it, what's the best method to avoid <br>
&gt; smashed skulls or broken limbs?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks in advance.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Scott<br>
&gt;<br>
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