Subject: [Shop-talk] Riding mower plus?

From: jamesf--- via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 13:51:46 -0400

I have about 1/4 acre of land to take care of. 2/3 is mowable green 
stuff, 1/3 is rocks. Rather than give $4500 to a landscaper to remove 
the rocks and plant grass I figured I could buy a machine and DIY it and 
come out with something nicer.

I need to rake the rocks out of the subsoil that was replaced when I had 
the sewer pipe put in. This is New England so there are a lot of rocks 
but none bigger than my head.

I need to spread topsoil or manure over that area. 

I need to dig a few 8" x 48" holes for deck expansion footings. 

I need to mow the grass.

Is there a machine that will do all this? I can find a riding mower, or 
a big PTO tractor, but it seems I need something in the middle. Riding 
mower with rake and then just rent the hole auger? Does such a machine 
exist?

thanks,
jim
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From: John Innis via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
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For that size yard, you really don't want a cat 1 tractor long term.  You
be better off buying a small 0-trurn to mow with then renting whatever
other equipment you need when you need it.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">For that size yard, you really don&#39;t want a cat 1 trac=
tor long term.=C2=A0 You be better off buying a small 0-trurn to mow with t=
hen renting whatever other equipment you need when you need it.<br></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, =
Sep 5, 2019 at 12:52 PM jamesf--- via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I have about 1/4 acre of land =
to take care of. 2/3 is mowable green <br>
stuff, 1/3 is rocks. Rather than give $4500 to a landscaper to remove <br>
the rocks and plant grass I figured I could buy a machine and DIY it and <b=
r>
come out with something nicer.<br>
<br>
I need to rake the rocks out of the subsoil that was replaced when I had <b=
r>
the sewer pipe put in. This is New England so there are a lot of rocks <br>
but none bigger than my head.<br>
<br>
I need to spread topsoil or manure over that area.=C2=A0<br>
<br>
I need to dig a few 8&quot; x 48&quot; holes for deck expansion footings.=
=C2=A0<br>
<br>
I need to mow the grass.<br>
<br>
Is there a machine that will do all this? I can find a riding mower, or <br=
a big PTO tractor, but it seems I need something in the middle. Riding <br>
mower with rake and then just rent the hole auger? Does such a machine <br>
exist?<br>
<br>
thanks,<br>
jim<br>
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From: Pat Horne via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 12:58:18 -0500

Vermeer makes a rock picker & I suspect others do too. You may be able to find someone who has one who you could hire. Their pretty expensive. A neighbor had one & it worked quite well. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Sep 5, 2019, at 12:51 PM, jamesf--- via Shop-talk <[email-masked]> wrote:

I have about 1/4 acre of land to take care of. 2/3 is mowable green stuff, 1/3 is rocks. Rather than give $4500 to a landscaper to remove the rocks and plant grass I figured I could buy a machine and DIY it and come out with something nicer.

I need to rake the rocks out of the subsoil that was replaced when I had the sewer pipe put in. This is New England so there are a lot of rocks but none bigger than my head.

I need to mow the grass.

Is there a machine that will do all this? I can find a riding mower, or a big PTO tractor, but it seems I need something in the middle. Riding mower with rake and then just rent the hole auger? Does such a machine exist?

thanks,
jim

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From: Mark Andy via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 17:16:38 -0400

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Howdy,

1/4 acre is pretty darned small.  Like "Use a self propelled push mower"
small.

That said, if you _really_ want a machine to do it all, that sounds pretty
ideal for a sub-compact tractor.  You'll need to bring a bunch more money
to buy one though.

I think new name brand with a loader and a belly mower will be well over
$10k.  Used is going to vary of course, but a quick glance at ebay is
showing $9k for something that looks reasonable.

A sub compact tractor also isn't nearly as good a mower as a zero turn.  Of
course, the front loader on the tractor works a lot better than the
non-existent one on the zero turn.  :)

If it were me, I'd probably pay the landscaper and get a push mower.  But
I'd also check out sub compacts, just because.  :)

Mark

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,<div><br></div><div>1/4 acre is pretty darned small.=
=C2=A0 Like &quot;Use a self propelled push mower&quot; small.<br><br>That =
said, if you _really_ want a machine to do it all, that sounds pretty ideal=
 for a sub-compact tractor.=C2=A0 You&#39;ll need to bring a bunch more mon=
ey to buy one though.<br><br>I think new name brand with a loader and a bel=
ly mower will be well over $10k.=C2=A0 Used is going to vary of course, but=
 a quick glance at ebay is showing $9k for something that looks reasonable.=
<br><br>A sub compact tractor also isn&#39;t nearly as good a mower as a ze=
ro turn.=C2=A0 Of course, the front loader on the tractor works a lot bette=
r than the non-existent one on the zero turn.=C2=A0 :)<br><br>If it were me=
, I&#39;d probably pay the landscaper and get a push mower.=C2=A0 But I&#39=
;d also check out sub compacts, just because.=C2=A0 :)<br><br>Mark</div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:52 PM jamesf--- via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:s=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I have about 1/4 acre of l=
and to take care of. 2/3 is mowable green <br>
stuff, 1/3 is rocks. Rather than give $4500 to a landscaper to remove <br>
the rocks and plant grass I figured I could buy a machine and DIY it and <b=
r>
come out with something nicer.<br>
<br>
I need to rake the rocks out of the subsoil that was replaced when I had <b=
r>
the sewer pipe put in. This is New England so there are a lot of rocks <br>
but none bigger than my head.<br>
<br>
I need to spread topsoil or manure over that area.=C2=A0<br>
<br>
I need to dig a few 8&quot; x 48&quot; holes for deck expansion footings.=
=C2=A0<br>
<br>
I need to mow the grass.<br>
<br>
Is there a machine that will do all this? I can find a riding mower, or <br=
alk/[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.t=
eam.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a><br>
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From: "Peter J. Thomas via Shop-talk" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 11:36:16 -0400

I'm from New England also; I know rocks.  For 1/3 of 1/4 acre, 1/12 of 
an acre, 3000 square feet, I'd rent a roto-tiller for the weekend.  Turn 
the area and pick out the rocks, raking out the small stuff.  Then turn 
in the manure/soil.  Then, like others have said, push mower are cheap 
and engines are easy to replace.  Mine is on it's 4th engine, because of 
New England rocks.

On 9/5/2019 1:51 PM, jamesf--- via Shop-talk wrote:
> the rocks and plant grass I figured I could buy a machine and DIY it 
> and come out with something nicer.
>
> I need to rake the rocks out of the subsoil that was replaced when I 
> had the sewer pipe put in. This is New England so there are a lot of 
> rocks but none bigger than my head.
>
> Is there a machine that will do all this? I can find a riding mower, 
> or a big PTO tractor, but it seems I need something in the middle. 
> Riding mower with rake and then just rent the hole auger? Does such a 
> machine exist?
>
> thanks,
> jim
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
>

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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 02:06:00 +0000

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Like others have said 1/4 is too small to need a riding lawn mower.
We have a older Cub Cadet and a johnnybucket. It is the great for landscapi=
ng jobs.

 http://www.johnnyproducts.com/J_Bucket_HTMs/JBpage_Jr_Simplicity.htm
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apacity. It works great for scraping and back dragging.
www.johnnyproducts.com

Rich White Central, IL USA
'63 TR3B TCF###L
That ain't a scrap pile, that is my car!

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I need to mow the grass.

thanks,
jim

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<div class=3D"PlainText">I have about 1/4 acre of land to take care of. 2/3=
 is mowable green
<br>
stuff, 1/3 is rocks. Rather than give $4500 to a landscaper to remove <br>
the rocks and plant grass I figured I could buy a machine and DIY it and <b=
r>
come out with something nicer.<br>
<br>
I need to rake the rocks out of the subsoil that was replaced when I had <b=
r>
the sewer pipe put in. This is New England so there are a lot of rocks <br>
but none bigger than my head.<br>
<br>
I need to spread topsoil or manure over that area.&nbsp;<br>
<br>
I need to dig a few 8&quot; x 48&quot; holes for deck expansion footings.&n=
bsp;<br>
<br>
I need to mow the grass.<br>
<br>
Is there a machine that will do all this? I can find a riding mower, or <br=
a big PTO tractor, but it seems I need something in the middle. Riding <br>
mower with rake and then just rent the hole auger? Does such a machine <br>
exist?<br>
<br>
thanks,<br>
jim<br>
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