Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] temporary connections

From: Brian Kemp via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 21:07:14 -0700

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If you are looking at strap hinges, can you use regular door hinges?  It 
wouldn't be rigid, but may work depending on the need. If you want to go 
with strap hinges, just grind off the end of the pin so it comes out and 
perhaps use the right diameter nail in place of the hinge pin.

Another option might be to saw a groove in the top of bottom of each 
panel and use something like 
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-Strong-Tie-12-Gauge-Angle-A33/100374962 
to lock the panels together.  This would require that the connecting 
edges be mitered.

My final thought is a segment of straight bar and an offset bar.  On one 
edge, you would put the offset brackets and the other panel would have 
straight brackets.  Basic graphic of the offset bracket below.

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Think of a smaller version of a bracket where you would drop a 2x4 
across a door to block it closed.  Hope that makes sense.

Brian

On 8/15/2019 8:31 PM, Steve Hammatt, Mount Vernon WA USA via Shop-talk 
wrote:
> I’m looking for something to temporarily connect a pair of 2” thick 
> panels (3’x 6’) to form
> a right angle.  Inexpensive and easily knocked apart for quick 
> assembly and teardown.
> Panels weigh nearly 100 lbs each.  First thought was strap hinges with 
> removable pins.
> Strangely I haven’t seen anything with removable pins, they mostly say 
> non-removable.
> Maybe something like a fitting thru a slot with a tapered wedge acting 
> as a pin, like
> maybe in concrete form assembly.....?  But haven’t seen anything that 
> would work.
> I only need two, this is a one-time build and it will be used in the shop!
> Thanks for any ideas.
> Steve Hammatt
> Mount Vernon WA USA
> www.leatherplates.com <http://www.leatherplates.com>
>
>
>
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    If you are looking at strap hinges, can you use regular door
    hinges?  It wouldn't be rigid, but may work depending on the need. 
    If you want to go with strap hinges, just grind off the end of the
    pin so it comes out and perhaps use the right diameter nail in place
    of the hinge pin.<br>
    <br>
    Another option might be to saw a groove in the top of bottom of each
    panel and use something like
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-Strong-Tie-12-Gauge-Angle-A33/100374962">https://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-Strong-Tie-12-Gauge-Angle-A33/100374962</a>
    to lock the panels together.  This would require that the connecting
    edges be mitered.<br>
    <br>
    My final thought is a segment of straight bar and an offset bar.  On
    one edge, you would put the offset brackets and the other panel
    would have straight brackets.  Basic graphic of the offset bracket
    below.<br>
    <br>
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    <br>
    Think of a smaller version of a bracket where you would drop a 2x4
    across a door to block it closed.  Hope that makes sense.<br>
    <br>
    Brian<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/15/2019 8:31 PM, Steve Hammatt,
      Mount Vernon WA USA via Shop-talk wrote:<br>
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          <div>I’m looking for something to temporarily connect a pair
            of 2” thick panels (3’x 6’) to form </div>
          <div>a right angle.  Inexpensive and easily knocked apart for
            quick assembly and teardown.</div>
          <div>Panels weigh nearly 100 lbs each.  First thought was
            strap hinges with removable pins.</div>
          <div>Strangely I haven’t seen anything with removable pins,
            they mostly say non-removable. </div>
          <div>Maybe something like a fitting thru a slot with a tapered
            wedge acting as a pin, like </div>
          <div>maybe in concrete form assembly.....?  But haven’t seen
            anything that would work.</div>
          <div>I only need two, this is a one-time build and it will be
            used in the shop!</div>
          <div>Thanks for any ideas.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR:
            #000000">Steve Hammatt<br>
            Mount Vernon WA USA<br>
            <a href="http://www.leatherplates.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true">www.leatherplates.com</a></div>
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From: Pat Horne via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 07:03:46 -0500

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There are some tapered connectors used to connect side rails to head & footb=
oards in beds (Rockler GRP343_1)

There are also cross bolts like Rockler 36073 if strength & rigidity are imp=
ortant.=20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity

On Aug 15, 2019, at 10:31 PM, Steve Hammatt, Mount Vernon WA USA via Shop-ta=
lk <[email-masked]> wrote:

I=E2=80=99m looking for something to temporarily connect a pair of 2=E2=80=9D=
 thick panels (3=E2=80=99x 6=E2=80=99) to form
a right angle.  Inexpensive and easily knocked apart for quick assembly and t=
eardown.
Panels weigh nearly 100 lbs each.  First thought was strap hinges with remov=
able pins.
Strangely I haven=E2=80=99t seen anything with removable pins, they mostly s=
ay non-removable.
Maybe something like a fitting thru a slot with a tapered wedge acting as a p=
in, like
maybe in concrete form assembly.....?  But haven=E2=80=99t seen anything tha=
t would work.
I only need two, this is a one-time build and it will be used in the shop!
Thanks for any ideas.
=20
Steve Hammatt
Mount Vernon WA USA
www.leatherplates.com

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">There are some tapered connectors used to c=
onnect side rails to head &amp; footboards in beds (Rockler GRP343_1)<div><b=
r></div><div>There are also cross bolts like Rockler 36073 if strength &amp;=
 rigidity are important.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat=
</div><div><br></div><div><br><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255=
, 255, 0); font-weight: 700;">Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity</spa=
n><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 15, 2019=
, at 10:31 PM, Steve Hammatt, Mount Vernon WA USA via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">
<div>I=E2=80=99m looking for something to temporarily connect a pair of 2=E2=
=80=9D thick panels=20
(3=E2=80=99x 6=E2=80=99) to form </div>
<div>a right angle.&nbsp; Inexpensive and easily knocked apart for quick=20
assembly and teardown.</div>
<div>Panels weigh nearly 100 lbs each.&nbsp; First thought was strap hinges w=
ith=20
removable pins.</div>
<div>Strangely I haven=E2=80=99t seen anything with removable pins, they mos=
tly say=20
non-removable. </div>
<div>Maybe something like a fitting thru a slot with a tapered wedge acting a=
s a=20
pin, like </div>
<div>maybe in concrete form assembly.....?&nbsp; But haven=E2=80=99t seen an=
ything that=20
would work.</div>
<div>I only need two, this is a one-time build and it will be used in the=20=

shop!</div>
<div>Thanks for any ideas.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">Steve=
=20
Hammatt<br>Mount Vernon WA USA<br><a href=3D"http://www.leatherplates.com">w=
ww.leatherplates.com</a></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000"><br><=
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From: "Steve Hammatt, Mount Vernon WA USA via Shop-talk" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 10:10:50 -0700

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Thanks everyone for great suggestions.=20
I=E2=80=99m headed to the bed frame connections as=20
seemingly the best solution for me.

Steve Hammatt
Mount Vernon WA USA
www.leatherplates.com

From: Pat Horne=20
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 5:03 AM
To: Steve Hammatt, Mount Vernon WA USA=20
Cc: Shop Talk List=20
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] temporary connections
There are some tapered connectors used to connect side rails to head & =
footboards in beds (Rockler GRP343_1)=20

There are also cross bolts like Rockler 36073 if strength & rigidity are =
important.=20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity=20

On Aug 15, 2019, at 10:31 PM, Steve Hammatt, Mount Vernon WA USA via =
Shop-talk <[email-masked]> wrote:

I=E2=80=99m looking for something to temporarily connect a pair of =
2=E2=80=9D thick panels (3=E2=80=99x 6=E2=80=99) to form=20
a right angle.  Inexpensive and easily knocked apart for quick assembly =
and teardown.
Panels weigh nearly 100 lbs each.  First thought was strap hinges with =
removable pins.
Strangely I haven=E2=80=99t seen anything with removable pins, they =
mostly say non-removable.=20
Maybe something like a fitting thru a slot with a tapered wedge acting =
as a pin, like=20
maybe in concrete form assembly.....?  But haven=E2=80=99t seen anything =
that would work.
I only need two, this is a one-time build and it will be used in the =
shop!
Thanks for any ideas.

Steve Hammatt
Mount Vernon WA USA
www.leatherplates.com

=20

[email-masked]
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<DIV>Thanks everyone for great suggestions. </DIV>
<DIV>I=E2=80=99m headed to the bed frame connections as </DIV>
<DIV>seemingly the best solution for me.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: =
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DISPLAY: inline'>There=20
are some tapered connectors used to connect side rails to head &amp; =
footboards=20
in beds (Rockler GRP343_1)=20
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>There are also cross bolts like Rockler 36073 if strength &amp; =
rigidity=20
are important. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Peace,</DIV>
<DIV>Pat</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: 700">Pat Horne We support Habitat =
for=20
Humanity</SPAN>=20
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USA via Shop-talk &lt;<A>[email-masked]</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">
<DIV>I=E2=80=99m looking for something to temporarily connect a pair of =
2=E2=80=9D thick panels=20
(3=E2=80=99x 6=E2=80=99) to form </DIV>
<DIV>a right angle.&nbsp; Inexpensive and easily knocked apart for quick =

assembly and teardown.</DIV>
<DIV>Panels weigh nearly 100 lbs each.&nbsp; First thought was strap =
hinges with=20
removable pins.</DIV>
<DIV>Strangely I haven=E2=80=99t seen anything with removable pins, they =
mostly say=20
non-removable. </DIV>
<DIV>Maybe something like a fitting thru a slot with a tapered wedge =
acting as a=20
pin, like </DIV>
<DIV>maybe in concrete form assembly.....?&nbsp; But haven=E2=80=99t =
seen anything that=20
would work.</DIV>
<DIV>I only need two, this is a one-time build and it will be used in =
the=20
shop!</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for any ideas.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: =
#000000">Steve=20
Hammatt<BR>Mount Vernon WA USA<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.leatherplates.com">www.leatherplates.com</A></DIV>
<DIV=20
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