Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] It's hot and I want AC

From: Scott Hall via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 16:24:48 -0500

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Ben,

This is exactly my interest in a mini-split--I can keep the master bedroom
cool and the rest of the house at 75 degrees. As far as warranties, I'm
about to have to replace a four year-old central a/c system on my dime
still very much under warranty and installed by a professional...so I'm
failing to see the value in warranties right now.

The only issue I'll have with a mini-split, besides that the outdoor unit
will be hanging twenty feet in the air is that the indoor unit isn't
meeting the aesthetic requirements imposed.

I mean, she's right--it is kind of ugly, but being able to keep the master
bedroom at 65 degrees for cheap has a beauty all its own.

Scott

On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 3:42 PM Battmain battmain via Shop-talk <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> I did a mini split unit for my master bedroom. The hardest part was
> getting through the 12" poured concrete at the base of the roof to run the
> lines outside. A rented hammer chisel took about 2hrs and a lot of cussing.
> I love the unit though and so does my wallet. The central AC does not have
> to be set as cold and the mini split runs when I am in the room. The online
> electrical stats show the unit pulling less power than my toaster oven most
> of the time.
>
> There are quite a few calculators out in the web to help with sizing, but
> consider also the dual or triple output units  instead of just a single
> output. That way if one can't cool the space, you can use the others to
> help. These things are so efficient I was considering ripping out the
> central AC I just put in and adding one to each space in the house. Install
> was relatively easy other than the concrete part and was a much easier than
> the central AC install.
>
> B
> *Sent from my brick phone*
> On Jul 2, 2019 12:11, Benjamin Zwissler via Shop-talk <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Anyone installed a mini-split AC system in their shop?  It looks like its
> effective and can save a bunch of money if you do it yourself.  My problem
> is sizing it.  I've got about 1000 sq ft (35 x 28) with 17' ceilings.  Two
> insulated overhead doors (12x14 and 10x10).  The shop is reasonably well
> insulated (mostly) and I'm in southern Indiana (often low-mid 90's and
> humid).  I'd probably put it midway up the wall and have it blow out into
> the bays.
>
> I'm considering buying an initial 2 or 3 ton unit and then I can add one
> if its not enough.  I'm also wondering whether those of you who have AC run
> it all the time or only when you're in the shop?
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Ben.....
>
> --
> Ben Zwissler
> [email-masked]
> Columbus, IN
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ben,<div><br></div><div>This is exactly my interest in a m=
ini-split--I can keep the master bedroom cool and the rest of the house at =
75 degrees. As far as warranties, I&#39;m about to have to replace a four y=
ear-old central a/c system on my dime still very much under warranty and in=
stalled by a professional...so I&#39;m failing to see the value in warranti=
es right now.</div><div><br></div><div>The only issue I&#39;ll have with a =
mini-split, besides that the outdoor unit will be hanging twenty feet in th=
e air is that the indoor unit isn&#39;t meeting the aesthetic requirements =
imposed.</div><div><br></div><div>I mean, she&#39;s right--it is kind of ug=
ly, but being able to keep the master bedroom at 65 degrees for cheap has a=
 beauty all its own.</div><div><br></div><div>Scott</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 2, 201=
9 at 3:42 PM Battmain battmain via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-tal=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>I did a mini split unit=
 for my master bedroom. The hardest part was getting through the 12&quot; p=
oured concrete at the base of the roof to run the lines outside. A rented h=
ammer chisel took about 2hrs and a lot of cussing. I love the unit though a=
nd so does my wallet. The central AC does not have to be set as cold and th=
e mini split runs when I am in the room. The online electrical stats show t=
he unit pulling less power than my toaster oven most of the time.</div><div=
><br></div><div>There are quite a few calculators out in the web to help wi=
th sizing, but consider also the dual or triple output units=C2=A0 instead =
of just a single output. That way if one can&#39;t cool the space, you can =
use the others to help. These things are so efficient I was considering rip=
ping out the central AC I just put in and adding one to each space in the h=
ouse. Install was relatively easy other than the concrete part and was a mu=
ch easier than the central AC install. </div><div><br></div><div>B</div><di=
v><font style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51)"><i>Sent from my brick phone</i></font=
></div></div><div class=3D"gmail-m_-4082650935047559958elided-text">On Jul =
2, 2019 12:11, Benjamin Zwissler via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-t=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail-m_-408265093504755995=
8quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Anyone installed a mini-split AC s=
ystem in their shop?=C2=A0 It looks like its effective and can save a bunch=
 of money if you do it yourself.=C2=A0 My problem is sizing it.=C2=A0 I&#39=
;ve got about 1000 sq ft (35 x 28) with 17&#39; ceilings.=C2=A0 Two insulat=
ed overhead doors (12x14 and 10x10).=C2=A0 The shop is reasonably well insu=
lated (mostly) and I&#39;m in southern Indiana (often low-mid 90&#39;s and =
humid).=C2=A0 I&#39;d probably put it midway up the wall and have it blow o=
ut into the bays.<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m considering buying an initial =
2 or 3 ton unit and then I can add one if its not enough.=C2=A0 I&#39;m als=
o wondering whether those of you who have AC run it all the time or only wh=
en you&#39;re in the shop?</div><div><br></div><div>Suggestions?</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Ben.....<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Ben Zwissler<br></div><a href=3D"mailto:bjz=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br></div>Colu=
mbus, IN<br></div></div></div></div>
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From: Jim Franklin via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:12:53 -0400

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I'd be interested to know the brands of those who are satisfied. 

thanks,
jim
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From: Eric Russell via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:42:55 -0400

The units I bought were Ramsond.

Browse the forums at garagejournal.com - lots of threads about 
mini-splits there. Just don't blame me for any time you waste, umm, I 
mean, spend there.

Eric Russell
Mebane, NC

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