Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] DeWalt 18V battery replacement

From: eric--- via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
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From: Pat Horne via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
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Thanks, Eric. I=E2=80=99ve checked with some of the rebuilders & they =
say they can only do NiCad batteries.  I really like the reduced weight =
of the Li-Ion batteries so want to stay with them if possible. I have a =
couple coming in today that I bought on Amazon so I=E2=80=99ll be able =
to check them out soon. If desired I can post how they work our. The =
last Ni-Mh batteries I bought worked fine until they develop a bad =
connection from being dropped. Repaired the connection & they worked =
again.=20

=20

Peace,

Pat

=20

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 9:00 AM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: Pat Horne
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] DeWalt 18V battery replacement

=20

I used a service that did the battery replacement.  For the hassle of =
sending my unit in, waiting and getting it back, then having the =
contacts corrode within a year, I wouldn't do it again.=20

I would just do it myself.  You can buy the battery cells for cheap (and =
upgrade Ahr) and solder them yourself.  It's fairly straight  forward.=20

Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Tech Viper
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a =
rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your =
territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson=20
-Who is John Galt?=20

From:        Pat Horne via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>=20
To:        <[email-masked]>=20
Date:        04/29/2019 09:50 AM=20
Subject:        [Shop-talk] DeWalt 18V battery replacement=20
Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <[email-masked]>=20

  _____ =20

I=E2=80=99ve been using the DeWalt 18v tools for many years. Battery =
technology has moved from NiCad through NMh to Li-Ion. It seems that =
DeWalt has quit making 18V batteries & now supports their 18v tools =
using an adapter that allows their 20v Li-Ion batteries to be used in =
the 18v tools. I have one of the adapters and, while it works, makes the =
tools a bit awkward. There are after-market 18v li-Ion batteries on the =
market. Does anyone have experience with any of them, good or bad?=20
 =20
Thanks in advance.=20
 =20
Peace,=20
Pat_______________________________________________

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Thanks, Eric. I=E2=80=99ve checked with some of the rebuilders &amp; =
they say they can only do NiCad batteries.=C2=A0 I really like the =
reduced weight of the Li-Ion batteries so want to stay with them if =
possible. I have a couple coming in today that I bought on Amazon so =
I=E2=80=99ll be able to check them out soon. If desired I can post how =
they work our. The last Ni-Mh batteries I bought worked fine until they =
develop a bad connection from being dropped. Repaired the connection =
&amp; they worked again. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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[email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, =
April 29, 2019 9:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> Pat Horne<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Shop-talk] DeWalt 18V battery replacement<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I used a =
service that did the battery replacement. &nbsp;For the hassle of =
sending my unit in, waiting and getting it back, then having the =
contacts corrode within a year, I wouldn't do it again.</span> =
<br><br><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I would just =
do it myself. &nbsp;You can buy the battery cells for cheap (and upgrade =
Ahr) and solder them yourself. &nbsp;It's fairly straight =
&nbsp;forward.</span> <br><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>Sent =
from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.<br>Tech Viper<br>&quot;Be as =
beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being =
are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory.&quot; Ralph =
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09:50 AM</span> <br><span =
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Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>[Shop-talk] =
DeWalt 18V battery replacement</span> <br><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>=
Sent by: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I=E2=80=99v=
e been using the DeWalt 18v tools for many years. Battery technology has =
moved from NiCad through NMh to Li-Ion. It seems that DeWalt has quit =
making 18V batteries &amp; now supports their 18v tools using an adapter =
that allows their 20v Li-Ion batteries to be used in the 18v tools. I =
have one of the adapters and, while it works, makes the tools a bit =
awkward. There are after-market 18v li-Ion batteries on the market. Does =
anyone have experience with any of them, good or bad?</span> <br><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</spa=
n> <br><span =
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From: Mark Andy via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
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Howdy,

I don't know how big a deal this really is, but I've heard that the tools
designed for Li-Ion batteries have protection circuits / smarts so that
they don't over-discharge the Li-Ion battery or whatever.  I've certainly
heard of Li-Ion batteries catching fire / whatever if they're abused.

Because of that, when my 18v NiCad Milwaukee stuff needed some love about 4
months back I bit the bullet and upgraded to the new Li-Ion tool hotness.
It wasn't the cheapest thing I've ever done, but I'm super happy about the
improvements in cordless tools in past the 8 to 15 years.  Much lighter
weight, more power, and more runtime.  Hard to go wrong with any of that.
:-)

Mark

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:07 AM Pat Horne via Shop-talk <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Thanks, Eric. I=E2=80=99ve checked with some of the rebuilders & they say=
 they can
> only do NiCad batteries.  I really like the reduced weight of the Li-Ion
> batteries so want to stay with them if possible. I have a couple coming i=
n
> today that I bought on Amazon so I=E2=80=99ll be able to check them out s=
oon. If
> desired I can post how they work our. The last Ni-Mh batteries I bought
> worked fine until they develop a bad connection from being dropped.
> Repaired the connection & they worked again.
>
>
>
> Peace,
>
> Pat
>
>
>
> *From:* [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 9:00 AM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Cc:* Pat Horne
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] DeWalt 18V battery replacement
>
>
>
> I used a service that did the battery replacement.  For the hassle of
> sending my unit in, waiting and getting it back, then having the contacts
> corrode within a year, I wouldn't do it again.
>
> I would just do it myself.  You can buy the battery cells for cheap (and
> upgrade Ahr) and solder them yourself.  It's fairly straight  forward.
>
>
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational
> being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph
> Waldo Emerson
> -Who is John Galt?
>
>
>
> From:        Pat Horne via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
> To:        <[email-masked]>
> Date:        04/29/2019 09:50 AM
> Subject:        [Shop-talk] DeWalt 18V battery replacement
> Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <[email-masked]>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99ve been using the DeWalt 18v tools for many years. Battery tech=
nology
> has moved from NiCad through NMh to Li-Ion. It seems that DeWalt has quit
> making 18V batteries & now supports their 18v tools using an adapter that
> allows their 20v Li-Ion batteries to be used in the 18v tools. I have one
> of the adapters and, while it works, makes the tools a bit awkward. There
> are after-market 18v li-Ion batteries on the market. Does anyone have
> experience with any of them, good or bad?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Peace,
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,<div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t know how big a deal =
this really is, but I&#39;ve heard that the tools designed for Li-Ion batte=
ries have protection circuits / smarts so that they don&#39;t over-discharg=
e the Li-Ion battery or whatever.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve certainly heard of Li-Ion =
batteries catching fire / whatever if they&#39;re abused.<br><br>Because of=
 that, when my 18v NiCad Milwaukee stuff needed some love about 4 months ba=
ck I bit the bullet and upgraded to the new Li-Ion tool hotness.=C2=A0 It w=
asn&#39;t the cheapest thing I&#39;ve ever done, but I&#39;m super happy ab=
out the improvements in cordless tools in past the 8 to 15 years.=C2=A0 Muc=
h lighter weight, more power, and more runtime.=C2=A0 Hard to go wrong with=
 any of that.=C2=A0 :-)<br><br>Mark</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:07 AM P=
at Horne via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">shop=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_4565392969470=
12543WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks, Eric. I=E2=80=99v=
e checked with some of the rebuilders &amp; they say they can only do NiCad=
 batteries.=C2=A0 I really like the reduced weight of the Li-Ion batteries =
so want to stay with them if possible. I have a couple coming in today that=
 I bought on Amazon so I=E2=80=99ll be able to check them out soon. If desi=
red I can post how they work our. The last Ni-Mh batteries I bought worked =
fine until they develop a bad connection from being dropped. Repaired the c=
onnection &amp; they worked again. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)">Peace,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Pat<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font=
-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;bo=
rder-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:<=
/span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> [=
mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">eric@megageek=
.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 29, 2019 9:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Shop-talk@autox.=
team.net</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Pat Horne<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] DeW=
alt 18V battery replacement<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I used a service that did the battery=
 replacement.=C2=A0 For the hassle of sending my unit in, waiting and getti=
ng it back, then having the contacts corrode within a year, I wouldn&#39;t =
do it again.</span> <br><br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial=
,sans-serif">I would just do it myself.=C2=A0 You can buy the battery cells=
 for cheap (and upgrade Ahr) and solder them yourself.=C2=A0 It&#39;s fairl=
y straight =C2=A0forward.</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial,sans-serif"><br><br>Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Mode=
m.<br>Tech Viper<br>&quot;Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if yo=
ur rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of you=
r territory.&quot; Ralph Waldo Emerson <br>-Who is John Galt?</span> <br><b=
r><br><br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color=
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-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Pat Horne via Shop-talk &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt;</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(95,95,95)">To: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0</span><span=
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to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif=
;color:rgb(95,95,95)">Date: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0</span><span style=
=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">04/29/2019 09:50 AM</span=
> <br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb=
(95,95,95)">Subject: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-=
size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[Shop-talk] DeWalt 18V battery rep=
lacement</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-s=
erif;color:rgb(95,95,95)">Sent by: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0</span><span =
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 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I=E2=80=99ve been =
using the DeWalt 18v tools for many years. Battery technology has moved fro=
m NiCad through NMh to Li-Ion. It seems that DeWalt has quit making 18V bat=
teries &amp; now supports their 18v tools using an adapter that allows thei=
r 20v Li-Ion batteries to be used in the 18v tools. I have one of the adapt=
ers and, while it works, makes the tools a bit awkward. There are after-mar=
ket 18v li-Ion batteries on the market. Does anyone have experience with an=
y of them, good or bad?</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-famil=
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From: Pat Horne via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 09:40:20 -0500

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Mark, I considered that route but I don=E2=80=99t have as much need for the t=
ools as I did when I volunteered weekly at Habitat. I know that is blasphemy=
, but I=E2=80=99m now 71 @ mostly need the tools around the place so a tool u=
pgrade isn=E2=80=99t worth it.=20

Thanks for the suggestion though!

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity

On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:30 AM, Mark Andy <[email-masked]> wrote:

Howdy,

I don't know how big a deal this really is, but I've heard that the tools de=
signed for Li-Ion batteries have protection circuits / smarts so that they d=
on't over-discharge the Li-Ion battery or whatever.  I've certainly heard of=
 Li-Ion batteries catching fire / whatever if they're abused.

Because of that, when my 18v NiCad Milwaukee stuff needed some love about 4 m=
onths back I bit the bullet and upgraded to the new Li-Ion tool hotness.  It=
 wasn't the cheapest thing I've ever done, but I'm super happy about the imp=
rovements in cordless tools in past the 8 to 15 years.  Much lighter weight,=
 more power, and more runtime.  Hard to go wrong with any of that.  :-)

Mark

> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:07 AM Pat Horne via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
> Thanks, Eric. I=E2=80=99ve checked with some of the rebuilders & they say t=
hey can only do NiCad batteries.  I really like the reduced weight of the Li=
-Ion batteries so want to stay with them if possible. I have a couple coming=
 in today that I bought on Amazon so I=E2=80=99ll be able to check them out s=
oon. If desired I can post how they work our. The last Ni-Mh batteries I bou=
ght worked fine until they develop a bad connection from being dropped. Repa=
ired the connection & they worked again.
> I used a service that did the battery replacement.  For the hassle of send=
ing my unit in, waiting and getting it back, then having the contacts corrod=
e within a year, I wouldn't do it again.=20
>=20
> I would just do it myself.  You can buy the battery cells for cheap (and u=
pgrade Ahr) and solder them yourself.  It's fairly straight  forward.=20
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational b=
eing are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo E=
merson=20
> I=E2=80=99ve been using the DeWalt 18v tools for many years. Battery techn=
ology has moved from NiCad through NMh to Li-Ion. It seems that DeWalt has q=
uit making 18V batteries & now supports their 18v tools using an adapter tha=
t allows their 20v Li-Ion batteries to be used in the 18v tools. I have one o=
f the adapters and, while it works, makes the tools a bit awkward. There are=
 after-market 18v li-Ion batteries on the market. Does anyone have experienc=
e with any of them, good or bad?=20
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/eric@m=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Mark, I considered that route but I don=E2=80=
=99t have as much need for the tools as I did when I volunteered weekly at H=
abitat. I know that is blasphemy, but I=E2=80=99m now 71 @ mostly need the t=
ools around the place so a tool upgrade isn=E2=80=99t worth it.&nbsp;<div><b=
r></div><div>Thanks for the suggestion though!<br><br>Peace,</div><div>Pat</=
div><div><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>=
We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br>On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:30 AM, Mark Andy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marka@maraci=
ng.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,<div><br></div><div>I don't know how big a deal this real=
ly is, but I've heard that the tools designed for Li-Ion batteries have prot=
ection circuits / smarts so that they don't over-discharge the Li-Ion batter=
y or whatever.&nbsp; I've certainly heard of Li-Ion batteries catching fire /=
 whatever if they're abused.<br><br>Because of that, when my 18v NiCad Milwa=
ukee stuff needed some love about 4 months back I bit the bullet and upgrade=
d to the new Li-Ion tool hotness.&nbsp; It wasn't the cheapest thing I've ev=
er done, but I'm super happy about the improvements in cordless tools in pas=
t the 8 to 15 years.&nbsp; Much lighter weight, more power, and more runtime=
.&nbsp; Hard to go wrong with any of that.&nbsp; :-)<br><br>Mark</div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon,=
 Apr 29, 2019 at 10:07 AM Pat Horne via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D=
"gmail-m_456539296947012543WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks,=
 Eric. I=E2=80=99ve checked with some of the rebuilders &amp; they say they c=
an only do NiCad batteries.&nbsp; I really like the reduced weight of the Li=
-Ion batteries so want to stay with them if possible. I have a couple coming=
 in today that I bought on Amazon so I=E2=80=99ll be able to check them out s=
oon. If desired I can post how they work our. The last Ni-Mh batteries I bou=
ght worked fine until they develop a bad connection from being dropped. Repa=
ired the connection &amp; they worked again. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-seri=
f;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,=
73,125)">Peace,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Pat<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></spa=
n></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;bo=
rder-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</s=
pan></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> [mail=
to:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 29, 2019 9:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Pat Horne<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] DeWalt 18V b=
attery replacement<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u><=
/u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fon=
t-family:Arial,sans-serif">I used a service that did the battery replacement=
.&nbsp; For the hassle of sending my unit in, waiting and getting it back, t=
hen having the contacts corrode within a year, I wouldn't do it again.</span=
> <br><br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I woul=
d just do it myself.&nbsp; You can buy the battery cells for cheap (and upgr=
ade Ahr) and solder them yourself.&nbsp; It's fairly straight &nbsp;forward.=
</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><br>=
<br>Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.<br>Tech Viper<br>"Be as b=
eneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are t=
renched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson <b=
r>-Who is John Galt?</span> <br><br><br><br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;f=
ont-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(95,95,95)">From: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Pat=
 Horne via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> <br><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(95,95,95)">To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-ser=
if">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">shop-t=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-fa=
mily:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(95,95,95)">Date: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">04/29/20=
19 09:50 AM</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif;color:rgb(95,95,95)">Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span=
 style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">[Shop-talk] DeWalt 1=
8V battery replacement</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family=
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/span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">"Shop-tal=
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></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><br><br><br><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I=E2=80=99ve been u=
sing the DeWalt 18v tools for many years. Battery technology has moved from N=
iCad through NMh to Li-Ion. It seems that DeWalt has quit making 18V batteri=
es &amp; now supports their 18v tools using an adapter that allows their 20v=
 Li-Ion batteries to be used in the 18v tools. I have one of the adapters an=
d, while it works, makes the tools a bit awkward. There are after-market 18v=
 li-Ion batteries on the market. Does anyone have experience with any of the=
m, good or bad?</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri=
,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Cal=
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;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span> <br><span style=3D"font-size:=
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