Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] question on LP tanks

From: ERIC RUSSELL via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2019 12:40:49 -0500 (EST)

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Likely empty. Weigh the tank (bathroom scale). An empty tank weighs about 17 lbs. Add 20 lbs of propane and, well, you do the math. Eric RussellMebane, NC 
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Do these tanks have a some sort of safety thing on the valve to keep them from emptying if the valve is not closed? Or was the tank just left open so leaked empty?

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<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;}</style></head><body><div>Likely empty. Weigh the tank (bathroom scale). An empty tank weighs about 17 lbs. Add 20 lbs of propane and, well, you do the math.&nbsp;</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Eric Russell</div><div>Mebane, NC&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>Do these tanks have a some sort of safety thing on the valve to keep them from emptying if the valve is not closed? Or was the tank just left open so leaked empty?<br></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;" data-mce-style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"></div></body></html>
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From: Doug Braun via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
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If that were the case, Home Depots would be burning down regularly.

Nothing is supposed to come out unless a hose is connected, even if the
valve is opened.

BTW, a propane tank has the empty weight stamped on the top, so if you
weigh it, you can know exactly how much propane it contains.

Doug

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> I bought my first ever LP tank last month. (I use charcoal when I grill
> year 'around here in WI.) I bought the tank to use with a newly purchased
> torpedo heater.
>
> When I hooked up the tank to the heater hose, the tank's valve turned out
> to be open about half way. The little plastic cover was on the valve so it
> appeared newly filled. I was not able to get the heater to fire up the
> other day when I tried for the first time. Since the temperature was in the
> low 30s, I just did the oil change without using a heater in my shop. I am
> wondering if the tank was not full or not....
>
> Do these tanks have a some sort of safety thing on the valve to keep them
> from emptying if the valve is not closed? Or was the tank just left open so
> leaked empty?
>
> Thanks
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<div dir=3D"auto">If that were the case, Home Depots would be burning down =
regularly.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Nothing is supposed=
 to come out unless a hose is connected, even if the valve is opened.=C2=A0=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">BTW, a propane tank has=
 the empty weight stamped on the top, so if you weigh it, you can know exac=
tly how much propane it contains.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">Doug=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 12:25 PM Tim . via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br></=
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I bought my first ever LP tank last month. (I use charcoal when I grill yea=
r &#39;around here in WI.) I bought the tank to use with a newly purchased =
torpedo heater.=C2=A0</div>
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When I hooked up the tank to the heater hose, the tank&#39;s valve turned o=
ut to be open about half way. The little plastic cover was on the valve so =
it appeared newly filled. I was not able to get the heater to fire up the o=
ther day when I tried for the first
 time. Since the temperature was in the low 30s, I just did the oil change =
without using a heater in my shop. I am wondering if the tank was not full =
or not....</div>
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Do these tanks have a some sort of safety thing on the valve to keep them f=
rom emptying if the valve is not closed? Or was the tank just left open so =
leaked empty?</div>
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Thanks</div>
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tim</div>
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From: RONALD GRIFFING via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2019 09:55:08 -0800 (PST)

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New tanks usually need to be purged and filled.  SOME new tanks come purged, they will have a sticker that states that it has been purged.  Some filling stations will sell pre-filled tanks.

> On March 2, 2019 at 8:00 AM "Tim . via Shop-talk" <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>     I bought my first ever LP tank last month. (I use charcoal when I grill year 'around here in WI.) I bought the tank to use with a newly purchased torpedo heater. 
> 
>     When I hooked up the tank to the heater hose, the tank's valve turned out to be open about half way. The little plastic cover was on the valve so it appeared newly filled. I was not able to get the heater to fire up the other day when I tried for the first time. Since the temperature was in the low 30s, I just did the oil change without using a heater in my shop. I am wondering if the tank was not full or not....
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">New tanks usually need to be purged and =
filled.&#160; SOME new tanks come purged, they will have a sticker that sta=
tes that it has been purged.&#160; Some filling stations will sell pre-fill=
ed tanks.</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar=
ch 2, 2019 at 8:00 AM &#34;Tim . via Shop-talk&#34; &#60;[email-masked]=
am.net&#62; wrote: <br> <br><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;">I bought my first ever LP tan=
k last month. (I use charcoal when I grill year &#39;around here in WI.) I =
bought the tank to use with a newly purchased torpedo heater.&#160;</div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: #000000;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;">When I hooked up the tank to th=
e heater hose, the tank&#39;s valve turned out to be open about half way. T=
he little plastic cover was on the valve so it appeared newly filled. I was=
 not able to get the heater to fire up the other day when I tried for the f=
irst time. Since the temperature was in the low 30s, I just did the oil cha=
nge without using a heater in my shop. I am wondering if the tank was not f=
ull or not....</div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-ser=
if; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: =
Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;">Do these =
tanks have a some sort of safety thing on the valve to keep them from empty=
ing if the valve is not closed? Or was the tank just left open so leaked em=
pty?</div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
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From: John Innis via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
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Was this a brand new tank, or did you buy a pre-filled tank from an
exchange place?

Brand new tanks come empty, an need to be purged then filled.

If it was a prefilled tank there is an automatic shutoff that is supposed
to keep it from leaking when the hose is not connected.  It is possible
that feature is not working as intended, especially on an older tank.

Another feature that might be getting you is the automatic shutoff that
comes into play if the flow rate is too high.  This is sometimes an issue
if you open the tank valve too quickly, or your appliance is drawing too
much gas.  This feature can be reset by closing the tank valve all the way,
then opening it very slowly to prevent the safety from tripping.  I have
this problem on a regular basis with my LP shop heater.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Was this a brand new tank, or did you buy a pre-fille=
d tank from an exchange place?</div><div><br></div><div>Brand new tanks com=
e empty, an need to be purged then filled.=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><=
div>If it was a prefilled tank there is an automatic shutoff that is suppos=
ed to keep it from leaking when the hose is not connected.=C2=A0 It is poss=
ible that feature is not working as intended, especially on an older tank.=
=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div>Another feature that might be getting =
you is the automatic shutoff that comes into play if the flow rate is too h=
igh.=C2=A0 This is sometimes an issue if you open the tank valve too quickl=
y, or your appliance is drawing too much gas.=C2=A0 This feature can be res=
et by closing the tank valve all the way, then opening it very slowly to pr=
event the safety from tripping.=C2=A0 I have this problem on a regular basi=
s with my LP shop heater.<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
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From: Mark Andy via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
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Howdy,

The normal way I check if the tank is empty is to lift it up along with one
I know is full, but that isn't going to help you.

If you slosh it back and forth, you should be able to tell there's liquid
inside if there's still propane in it.

All that said, my recollection is that there is indeed a safety valve that
doesn't allow the tank to just dump itself unless something is attached to
it.  I know I've had to tighten up my grill connection more to get gas to
flow, for instance.  Now, whether or not that safety valve is good enough
that it doesn't leak at all... Not sure there.

Mark

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Howdy,<div><br></div><div>The normal way I check if the ta=
nk is empty is to lift it up along with one I know is full, but that isn&#3=
9;t going to help you.<br><br>If you slosh it back and forth, you should be=
 able to tell there&#39;s liquid inside if there&#39;s still propane in it.=
<br><br>All that said, my recollection is that there is indeed a safety val=
ve that doesn&#39;t allow the tank to just dump itself unless something is =
attached to it.=C2=A0 I know I&#39;ve had to tighten up my grill connection=
 more to get gas to flow, for instance.=C2=A0 Now, whether or not that safe=
ty valve is good enough that it doesn&#39;t leak at all... Not sure there.<=
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 From Propane 101:  (seriously, that's what the website is called!)

OPD valves are also designed to only allow propane into and out of 
the bottle if attached to the appropriate hose end connection. The 
threads on this type of connection are called ACME threads and are 
visible on the OPD valve at the point of connection. The ACME threads 
are easily identified by how much larger and farther apart they are 
as compared to normal pipe threads. OPD valves will not allow propane 
out of the bottle if it is not hooked up to anything. This is why 
turning (opening) an OPD handwheel on an unattached bottle does 
nothing in terms of letting propane out. Many people think that the 
bottle is empty but in fact, the cylinder needs to be hooked up to 
allow any gas out. Learn more about the 
<http://www.propane101.com/valveopennopropane.htm>Valve Open - No 
Propane issue that many users have with OPD equipped propane cylinders.

http://www.propane101.com/opdcylindervalves.htm

Now, understanding all of that, I still  don't know if your tank is 
full.  Where did you buy it?  If you picked it up off the shelf 
inside a store, I'm sure it was empty at that time.  Did you bring it 
somewhere to be filled?  There are some stores that will sell you a 
filled tank, but either they fill it right before they give it to you 
or they store it somewhere outside the store.

I very much doubt that the tank was filled and leaked out all of its 
propane.  I suspect that either it is full or it was never 
filled.  The tank will weigh a lot more when full.  Typical grill 
tanks weight 17lbs empty and 37 lbs full.  The empty weight (Tare 
Weight) should be stamped on the tank.

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 From Propane 101:&nbsp; (seriously, that's what the website is
called!)<br><br>
OPD valves are also designed to only allow propane into and out of the
bottle if attached to the appropriate hose end connection. The threads on
this type of connection are called ACME threads and are visible on the
OPD valve at the point of connection. The ACME threads are easily
identified by how much larger and farther apart they are as compared to
normal pipe threads. OPD valves will not allow propane out of the bottle
if it is not hooked up to anything. This is why turning (opening) an OPD
handwheel on an unattached bottle does nothing in terms of letting
propane out. Many people think that the bottle is empty but in fact, the
cylinder needs to be hooked up to allow any gas out. Learn more about the
<a href="http://www.propane101.com/valveopennopropane.htm">Valve Open -
No Propane</a> issue that many users have with OPD equipped propane
cylinders. <br><br>
<a href="http://www.propane101.com/opdcylindervalves.htm" eudora="autourl">
http://www.propane101.com/opdcylindervalves.htm</a><br><br>
Now, understanding all of that, I still&nbsp; don't know if your tank is
full.&nbsp; Where did you buy it?&nbsp; If you picked it up off the shelf
inside a store, I'm sure it was empty at that time.&nbsp; Did you bring
it somewhere to be filled?&nbsp; There are some stores that will sell you
a filled tank, but either they fill it right before they give it to you
or they store it somewhere outside the store.&nbsp; <br><br>
I very much doubt that the tank was filled and leaked out all of its
propane.&nbsp; I suspect that either it is full or it was never
filled.&nbsp; The tank will weigh a lot more when full.&nbsp; Typical
grill tanks weight 17lbs empty and 37 lbs full.&nbsp; The empty weight
(Tare Weight) should be stamped on the tank.&nbsp; <br><br>
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Thanks for the replies. I've learned more than I thought I ever would about=
 propane, and propane accessories. Hank is the man!

Seriously though.....

The tank was bought from a place that sells refilled tanks.

I assumed there was a check valve but needed to get verification.

Turns out the fuel feed switch on the heater itself was a little sticky (fi=
rst use) and I wasn't pushing it in far enough.

Thanks again
tim

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From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Tim . via S=
hop-talk <[email-masked]>
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 10:00 AM
To: Shop Talk
Subject: [Shop-talk] question on LP tanks

I bought my first ever LP tank last month. (I use charcoal when I grill yea=
r 'around here in WI.) I bought the tank to use with a newly purchased torp=
edo heater.

When I hooked up the tank to the heater hose, the tank's valve turned out t=
o be open about half way. The little plastic cover was on the valve so it a=
ppeared newly filled. I was not able to get the heater to fire up the other=
 day when I tried for the first time. Since the temperature was in the low =
30s, I just did the oil change without using a heater in my shop. I am wond=
ering if the tank was not full or not....

Thanks
tim

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I bought my first ever LP tank last month. (I use charcoal when I grill yea=
r 'around here in WI.) I bought the tank to use with a newly purchased torp=
edo heater.&nbsp;</div>
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or:rgb(0,0,0)">
When I hooked up the tank to the heater hose, the tank's valve turned out t=
o be open about half way. The little plastic cover was on the valve so it a=
ppeared newly filled. I was not able to get the heater to fire up the other=
 day when I tried for the first
 time. Since the temperature was in the low 30s, I just did the oil change =
without using a heater in my shop. I am wondering if the tank was not full =
or not....</div>
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Do these tanks have a some sort of safety thing on the valve to keep them f=
rom emptying if the valve is not closed? Or was the tank just left open so =
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Thanks</div>
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tim</div>
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