Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to automate fan with remote pressure pad switch

From: Obaa via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 19:18:14 +0000 (UTC)

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How about taking a motion sensitive light, and wiring an outlet/the fan in place of the bulb?
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Wouldn't even need the light part.  The make a motion sensor that can
replace a wall switch.  Like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015G8VLNA/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_TvkxCbMCBJVE7

If that doesn't work for you there are stand alone motion sensors that
could be placed near the cat pan to only detect cats.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L7COUYG/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_2xkxCb2055TPW

If you are really set on a pressure pad sensor, I'd probably gin something
up with an Arduino and a Relay.  More work in HW/SW development, but the
possibilities are endless.  You could log all the cat box activity, send a
text after a set number of visits to remind you to scoop the litter....
This has a high potential for feature creep...  Gotta run now, off to the
shop to start coding....

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eed the light part.=C2=A0 The make a motion sensor that can replace a wall =
switch.=C2=A0 Like this one:</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/dp=
/B015G8VLNA/ref=3Dcm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_TvkxCbMCBJVE7">https://www.amazon.com/=
dp/B015G8VLNA/ref=3Dcm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_TvkxCbMCBJVE7</a></div><div><br></di=
v><div>If that doesn&#39;t work for you there are stand alone motion sensor=
s that could be placed near the cat pan to only detect cats. <br></div><div=
><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L7COUYG/ref=3Dcm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_2=
xkxCb2055TPW">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L7COUYG/ref=3Dcm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U=
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sure pad sensor, I&#39;d probably gin something up with an Arduino and a Re=
lay.=C2=A0 More work in HW/SW development, but the possibilities are endles=
s.=C2=A0 You could log all the cat box activity, send a text after a set nu=
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From: "Steve Hammatt, Mount Vernon WA USA via Shop-talk" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:02:49 -0800

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Good stuff, however here=E2=80=99s my objectives:
1.  The room fan is currently installed and controlled by a wall switch
2.  The pressure pad or motion sensor will be located 15=E2=80=99 away =
and 5=E2=80=99=20
lower elevation (floor level) from the wall switch.
3.  I do not want to tear into the walls, so there needs to be an RF=20
link between the sensor and the wall switch.=20
4.  The sensor (pressure pad or heat/? sensor) could be dc (battery)=20
or could utilize the 110V outlet located 16=E2=80=9D from the cat box =
entry point.
5.  It would be nice to keep the actual wall switch in operation, but =
the=20
new RF switch (with timer) needs to be located at the wall switch =
location.

Steve Hammatt
Mount Vernon WA USA
www.leatherplates.com

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Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 1:44 PM
To: Obaa=20
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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to automate fan with remote pressure =
padswitch
Wouldn't even need the light part.  The make a motion sensor that can =
replace a wall switch.  Like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015G8VLNA/ref=3Dcm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_TvkxCbMCBJV=
E7

If that doesn't work for you there are stand alone motion sensors that =
could be placed near the cat pan to only detect cats.=20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L7COUYG/ref=3Dcm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_2xkxCb2055T=
PW

If you are really set on a pressure pad sensor, I'd probably gin =
something up with an Arduino and a Relay.  More work in HW/SW =
development, but the possibilities are endless.  You could log all the =
cat box activity, send a text after a set number of visits to remind you =
to scoop the litter.... This has a high potential for feature creep...  =
Gotta run now, off to the shop to start coding....

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  How about taking a motion sensitive light, and wiring an outlet/the =
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<DIV>Good stuff, however here=E2=80=99s my objectives:</DIV>
<DIV>1.&nbsp; The room fan is currently installed and controlled by a =
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<DIV>2.&nbsp; The pressure pad or motion sensor will be located =
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<DIV>3.&nbsp; I do not want to tear into the walls, so there needs to be =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 7, 2019 1:44 PM</DIV>
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href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015G8VLNA/ref=3Dcm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_Tvk=
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could be placed near the cat pan to only detect cats. <BR></DIV>
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href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L7COUYG/ref=3Dcm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_2xk=
xCb2055TPW">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L7COUYG/ref=3Dcm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U=
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up with an Arduino and a Relay.&nbsp; More work in HW/SW development, =
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possibilities are endless.&nbsp; You could log all the cat box activity, =
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text after a set number of visits to remind you to scoop the litter.... =
This has=20
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shop to=20
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From: Steve Dillen via Shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 17:56:26 -0800

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Additional thought...the smartthings hub ties into "zwave" devices which 
include a bunch of things...including smart light switches, door locks, 
etc.  Some parts are kind of pricey for what they are, but the 
automation is easy to deal with and is kind of cool from a geek perspective.

Steve

On 2019-02-07 4:02 p.m., Steve Hammatt, Mount Vernon WA USA via 
Shop-talk wrote:
> Good stuff, however here’s my objectives:
> 2.  The pressure pad or motion sensor will be located 15’ away and 5’
> 3.  I do not want to tear into the walls, so there needs to be an RF
> link between the sensor and the wall switch.
> 4.  The sensor (pressure pad or heat/? sensor) could be dc (battery)
> or could utilize the 110V outlet located 16” from the cat box entry point.
> 5.  It would be nice to keep the actual wall switch in operation, but the
> new RF switch (with timer) needs to be located at the wall switch 
> location.
> Steve Hammatt
> Mount Vernon WA USA
> www.leatherplates.com <http://www.leatherplates.com>
>
>
>
> *From:* John Innis via Shop-talk
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 7, 2019 1:44 PM
> *To:* Obaa
> *Cc:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Looking to automate fan with remote 
> pressure padswitch
> If you are really set on a pressure pad sensor, I'd probably gin 
> something up with an Arduino and a Relay.  More work in HW/SW 
> development, but the possibilities are endless.  You could log all the 
> cat box activity, send a text after a set number of visits to remind 
> you to scoop the litter.... This has a high potential for feature 
> creep... Gotta run now, off to the shop to start coding....
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 3:07 PM Obaa via Shop-talk 
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    <p>Additional thought...the smartthings hub ties into "zwave"
      devices which include a bunch of things...including smart light
      switches, door locks, etc.  Some parts are kind of pricey for what
      they are, but the automation is easy to deal with and is kind of
      cool from a geek perspective.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Steve<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-02-07 4:02 p.m., Steve Hammatt,
      Mount Vernon WA USA via Shop-talk wrote:<br>
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          <div>Good stuff, however here’s my objectives:</div>
          <div>1.  The room fan is currently installed and controlled by
            a wall switch</div>
          <div>2.  The pressure pad or motion sensor will be located 15’
            away and 5’ </div>
          <div>lower elevation (floor level) from the wall switch.</div>
          <div>3.  I do not want to tear into the walls, so there needs
            to be an RF </div>
          <div>link between the sensor and the wall switch. </div>
          <div>4.  The sensor (pressure pad or heat/? sensor) could be
            dc (battery) </div>
          <div>or could utilize the 110V outlet located 16” from the cat
            box entry point.</div>
          <div>5.  It would be nice to keep the actual wall switch in
            operation, but the </div>
          <div>new RF switch (with timer) needs to be located at the
            wall switch location.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR:
            #000000">Steve Hammatt<br>
            Mount Vernon WA USA<br>
            <a href="http://www.leatherplates.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true">www.leatherplates.com</a></div>
          <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR:
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                <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
                    title="[email-masked]"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">John Innis via Shop-talk</a>
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                <div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 7, 2019 1:44 PM</div>
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                    <div>Wouldn't even need the light part.  The make a
                      motion sensor that can replace a wall switch. 
                      Like this one:</div>
                    <div><a
href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015G8VLNA/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_TvkxCbMCBJVE7"
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                    <div>If that doesn't work for you there are stand
                      alone motion sensors that could be placed near the
                      cat pan to only detect cats. <br>
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                    <div>If you are really set on a pressure pad sensor,
                      I'd probably gin something up with an Arduino and
                      a Relay.  More work in HW/SW development, but the
                      possibilities are endless.  You could log all the
                      cat box activity, send a text after a set number
                      of visits to remind you to scoop the litter....
                      This has a high potential for feature creep... 
                      Gotta run now, off to the shop to start coding....<br>
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                    <div>How about taking a motion sensitive light, and
                      wiring an outlet/the fan in place of the bulb?</div>
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