Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] old people pouring gas

From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 16:04:42 -0600

--===============7722484648369775381==
	boundary=Apple-Mail-D44A7DD1-5F60-4492-A375-F9A33AA96A39
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

--Apple-Mail-D44A7DD1-5F60-4492-A375-F9A33AA96A39
	charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

How about a rope & pulley? A second rope & pulley would allow one to hold th=
e can elevated & the second one to top it. =20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity

On Dec 5, 2018, at 7:10 AM, john niolon <[email-masked]> wrote:

I=E2=80=99m admitting it.  I=E2=80=99m an old broke down guy.  Been fighting=
 leaves this week with a zero turn and a cyclone rake leaf vacuum. (Nearly 2=
 acres with 75 oak trees =3D many leaves)   My worst part is filling equipme=
nt with fuel.  I=E2=80=99ve got bad shoulders... one surgery=E2=80=99d and t=
he other needs it.  Hoisting and holding a 30-35 pound gas can up above wais=
t high is getting to me. The holding is the hard part... I know it gets ligh=
ter as it empties but it=E2=80=99s still a struggle.  It takes 12-15 gals to=
 fill the zero turn and about 1/2 gallon to fill the vac motor.  but both in=
lets are high and it=E2=80=99s at an awkward position also.
=20
I=E2=80=99m looking for a rack or tilting rack that will hold standard red p=
lastic gas cans and allow for easy filling...I know I=E2=80=99d have to lift=
 the can into the rack.. but then the rack could hold the weight during fill=
ing. I=E2=80=99ve seen the tilt racks for round 5 gallon cans but they are a=
ll too short.  I can=E2=80=99t find anything on the net to suit.  I won=E2=80=
=99t replace my cans with the ez-pour bottom spout cans. That would be about=
 150 bucks.  I keep 5 five gallon cans for the mowers.
=20
Haven=E2=80=99t found an affordable pumping system that wasn=E2=80=99t too e=
xpensive, yet  The cheap plastic ones behind Google all have bad  reviews.=20=

=20
Anyone built something like this ??   Or, have an affordable pumping system t=
hat works ??
=20
thanks
john
_______________________________________________

[email-masked]
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk

[email-masked]

--Apple-Mail-D44A7DD1-5F60-4492-A375-F9A33AA96A39
	charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">How about a rope &amp; pulley? A second rop=
e &amp; pulley would allow one to hold the can elevated &amp; the second one=
 to top it. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<br><br><div id=3D=
"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Caldwell Cou=
nty Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On D=
ec 5, 2018, at 7:10 AM, john niolon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">j=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">
<div>I=E2=80=99m admitting it.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m an old broke down guy.&nbsp=
; Been fighting=20
leaves this week with a zero turn and a cyclone rake leaf vacuum. (Nearly 2=20=

acres with 75 oak trees =3D many leaves)&nbsp;&nbsp; My worst part is fillin=
g=20
equipment with fuel.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve got bad shoulders... one surgery=E2=80=
=99d and the other=20
needs it.&nbsp; Hoisting and holding a 30-35 pound gas can up above waist hi=
gh=20
is getting to me. The holding is the hard part... I know it gets lighter as i=
t=20
empties but it=E2=80=99s still a struggle.&nbsp; It takes 12-15 gals to fill=
 the zero=20
turn and about 1/2 gallon to fill the vac motor.&nbsp; but both inlets are h=
igh=20
and it=E2=80=99s at an awkward position also. </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I=E2=80=99m looking for a rack or tilting rack that will hold standard r=
ed plastic=20
gas cans and allow for easy filling...I know I=E2=80=99d have to lift the ca=
n into the=20
rack.. but then the rack could hold the weight during filling. I=E2=80=99ve s=
een the=20
tilt racks for round 5 gallon cans but they are all too short.&nbsp; I can=E2=
=80=99t=20
find anything on the net to suit.&nbsp; I won=E2=80=99t replace my cans with=
 the ez-pour=20
bottom spout cans. That would be about 150 bucks.&nbsp; I keep 5 five gallon=
=20
cans for the mowers.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Haven=E2=80=99t found an affordable pumping system that wasn=E2=80=99t t=
oo expensive,=20
yet&nbsp; The cheap plastic ones behind Google all have bad&nbsp; reviews.&n=
bsp;=20
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Anyone built something like this ??&nbsp;&nbsp; Or, have an affordable=20=

pumping system that works ??</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>thanks</div>
<div>john</div></div></div>
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>_______________________________________________=
</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a></span><br><span>Donate: <a href=3D"http://www=
.team.net/donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a></span><br><span>S=
uggested annual donation &nbsp;$12.96</span><br><span>Archive: <a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk">http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-ta=
lk</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href=3D"http:=
//autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]">http://aut=
ox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a></span><br><s=
pan></span><br></div></div></body></html>=

--Apple-Mail-D44A7DD1-5F60-4492-A375-F9A33AA96A39--

--===============7722484648369775381==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

_______________________________________________

[email-masked]
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk

--===============7722484648369775381==--

---

From: RandE <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 19:30:07 -0600

--===============6393113990875298409==

--000000000000e33e1c057c5070d0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

How about a gas can with a pump?
Here's a couple different sizes

https://smile.amazon.com/Second-Gen-TERAPUMP-TRFA01-Auto-Stop/dp/B010GNM7H4=
/ref=3Dsr_1_3?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1544059611&sr=3D8-3&keywords=3Dgas+can+with+p=
ump

https://smile.amazon.com/DuraMax-Fluid-Transfer-14-Gallon-Rolling/dp/B000MT=
94QA/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1544059611&sr=3D8-2&keywords=3Dgas+can+wi=
th+pump

Randy

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 7:17 PM Pat Horne <[email-masked]> wrote:

> How about a rope & pulley? A second rope & pulley would allow one to hold
> the can elevated & the second one to top it.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> I=E2=80=99m admitting it.  I=E2=80=99m an old broke down guy.  Been fight=
ing leaves this
> week with a zero turn and a cyclone rake leaf vacuum. (Nearly 2 acres wit=
h
> 75 oak trees =3D many leaves)   My worst part is filling equipment with
> fuel.  I=E2=80=99ve got bad shoulders... one surgery=E2=80=99d and the ot=
her needs it.
> Hoisting and holding a 30-35 pound gas can up above waist high is getting
> to me. The holding is the hard part... I know it gets lighter as it empti=
es
> but it=E2=80=99s still a struggle.  It takes 12-15 gals to fill the zero =
turn and
> about 1/2 gallon to fill the vac motor.  but both inlets are high and it=
=E2=80=99s
> at an awkward position also.
>
> I=E2=80=99m looking for a rack or tilting rack that will hold standard re=
d plastic
> gas cans and allow for easy filling...I know I=E2=80=99d have to lift the=
 can into
> the rack.. but then the rack could hold the weight during filling. I=E2=
=80=99ve
> seen the tilt racks for round 5 gallon cans but they are all too short.  =
I
> can=E2=80=99t find anything on the net to suit.  I won=E2=80=99t replace =
my cans with the
> ez-pour bottom spout cans. That would be about 150 bucks.  I keep 5 five
> gallon cans for the mowers.
>
> Haven=E2=80=99t found an affordable pumping system that wasn=E2=80=99t to=
o expensive, yet
> The cheap plastic ones behind Google all have bad  reviews.
>
> Anyone built something like this ??   Or, have an affordable pumping
> system that works ??
>
> thanks
> john
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.96
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.96
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
>
>

--000000000000e33e1c057c5070d0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">How about a gas can with=
 a pump?<div>Here&#39;s a couple different sizes<br></div><div><br></div><d=
iv><a href=3D"https://smile.amazon.com/Second-Gen-TERAPUMP-TRFA01-Auto-Stop=
/dp/B010GNM7H4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544059611&amp;sr=3D8-3&amp=
;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump">https://smile.amazon.com/Second-Gen-TERAPUMP=
-TRFA01-Auto-Stop/dp/B010GNM7H4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544059611=
&amp;sr=3D8-3&amp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump</a><br></div><div><br></div>=
<div><a href=3D"https://smile.amazon.com/DuraMax-Fluid-Transfer-14-Gallon-R=
olling/dp/B000MT94QA/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544059611&amp;sr=3D8=
-2&amp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump">https://smile.amazon.com/DuraMax-Fluid=
-Transfer-14-Gallon-Rolling/dp/B000MT94QA/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D=
1544059611&amp;sr=3D8-2&amp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump</a><br></div><div>=
<br></div><div>Randy</div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 7:17 PM Pat Horne =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">How about =
a rope &amp; pulley? A second rope &amp; pulley would allow one to hold the=
 can elevated &amp; the second one to top it. =C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Pea=
ce,</div><div>Pat<br><br><div id=3D"m_6861100414930033492AppleMailSignature=
" dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne=C2=A0<div>We support Caldwell County Habitat for Hu=
manity</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Dec 5, 2018, at 7:=
10 AM, john niolon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;;COLOR:#000000">
<div>I=E2=80=99m admitting it.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m an old broke down guy.=C2=
=A0 Been fighting=20
leaves this week with a zero turn and a cyclone rake leaf vacuum. (Nearly 2=
=20
acres with 75 oak trees =3D many leaves)=C2=A0=C2=A0 My worst part is filli=
ng=20
equipment with fuel.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve got bad shoulders... one surgery=E2=
=80=99d and the other=20
needs it.=C2=A0 Hoisting and holding a 30-35 pound gas can up above waist h=
igh=20
is getting to me. The holding is the hard part... I know it gets lighter as=
 it=20
empties but it=E2=80=99s still a struggle.=C2=A0 It takes 12-15 gals to fil=
l the zero=20
turn and about 1/2 gallon to fill the vac motor.=C2=A0 but both inlets are =
high=20
and it=E2=80=99s at an awkward position also. </div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>I=E2=80=99m looking for a rack or tilting rack that will hold standard=
 red plastic=20
gas cans and allow for easy filling...I know I=E2=80=99d have to lift the c=
an into the=20
rack.. but then the rack could hold the weight during filling. I=E2=80=99ve=
 seen the=20
tilt racks for round 5 gallon cans but they are all too short.=C2=A0 I can=
=E2=80=99t=20
find anything on the net to suit.=C2=A0 I won=E2=80=99t replace my cans wit=
h the ez-pour=20
bottom spout cans. That would be about 150 bucks.=C2=A0 I keep 5 five gallo=
n=20
cans for the mowers.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Haven=E2=80=99t found an affordable pumping system that wasn=E2=80=99t=
 too expensive,=20
yet=C2=A0 The cheap plastic ones behind Google all have bad=C2=A0 reviews.=
=C2=A0=20
</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Anyone built something like this ??=C2=A0=C2=A0 Or, have an affordable=
=20
pumping system that works ??</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>thanks</div>
<div>john</div></div></div>
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span>______________________________________________=
_</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a></span><br><span>Donate: =
<a href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.te=
am.net/donate.html</a></span><br><span>Suggested annual donation =C2=A0$12.=
96</span><br><span>Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-t=
alk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</a></span><b=
r><span></span><br><span>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a href=3D"http://autox.team.n=
et/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a></span>=
<br><span></span><br></div></div></div>____________________________________=
___________<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Shop-talk@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>
et=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</a><br>
<br>
alk/[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team=
.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>

--000000000000e33e1c057c5070d0--

--===============6393113990875298409==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============6393113990875298409==--

---

From: Ian McFetridge <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 20:46:10 -0500

--===============8300762443112486303==

--0000000000007c2d40057c50aac1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This pump/can seems to get decent reviews.
https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200325161_200325161

And I had one of these <$10 siphons for kerosene
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Manual-Syphon-Pump-DH-10/21804882?wmlspartner=3D=
wlpa&selectedSellerId=3D0&wl13=3D2068&adid=3D22222222227025396871&wl0=3D&wl=
1=3Dg&wl2=3Dc&wl3=3D44121610472&wl4=3Dpla-84659885792&wl5=3D9007195&wl6=3D&=
wl7=3D&wl8=3D&wl9=3Dpla&wl10=3D8175035&wl11=3Dlocal&wl12=3D21804882&wl13=3D=
2068&veh=3Dsem&gclid=3DEAIaIQobChMI0-_QkYqK3wIViYKzCh12UwMuEAQYAiABEgJexvD_=
BwE

At our family farm we use a transfer tank in the bed of the pickup truck to
fuel the zero turn, tractor, etc.  More expensive, but very robust, much
more volume and has resale value.

Best,
Ian

--0000000000007c2d40057c50aac1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">This pump/can seems to g=
et decent reviews.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><a href=3D"https://www.northerntool.com/=
shop/tools/product_200325161_200325161">https://www.northerntool.com/shop/t=
ools/product_200325161_200325161</a></div><div><br></div><div>And I had one=
 of these &lt;$10 siphons for kerosene</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.wal=
mart.com/ip/Manual-Syphon-Pump-DH-10/21804882?wmlspartner=3Dwlpa&amp;select=
edSellerId=3D0&amp;wl13=3D2068&amp;adid=3D22222222227025396871&amp;wl0=3D&a=
mp;wl1=3Dg&amp;wl2=3Dc&amp;wl3=3D44121610472&amp;wl4=3Dpla-84659885792&amp;=
wl5=3D9007195&amp;wl6=3D&amp;wl7=3D&amp;wl8=3D&amp;wl9=3Dpla&amp;wl10=3D817=
5035&amp;wl11=3Dlocal&amp;wl12=3D21804882&amp;wl13=3D2068&amp;veh=3Dsem&amp=
;gclid=3DEAIaIQobChMI0-_QkYqK3wIViYKzCh12UwMuEAQYAiABEgJexvD_BwE">https://w=
ww.walmart.com/ip/Manual-Syphon-Pump-DH-10/21804882?wmlspartner=3Dwlpa&amp;=
selectedSellerId=3D0&amp;wl13=3D2068&amp;adid=3D22222222227025396871&amp;wl=
0=3D&amp;wl1=3Dg&amp;wl2=3Dc&amp;wl3=3D44121610472&amp;wl4=3Dpla-8465988579=
2&amp;wl5=3D9007195&amp;wl6=3D&amp;wl7=3D&amp;wl8=3D&amp;wl9=3Dpla&amp;wl10=
=3D8175035&amp;wl11=3Dlocal&amp;wl12=3D21804882&amp;wl13=3D2068&amp;veh=3Ds=
em&amp;gclid=3DEAIaIQobChMI0-_QkYqK3wIViYKzCh12UwMuEAQYAiABEgJexvD_BwE</a><=
/div><div><br></div><div>At our family farm we use a transfer tank in the b=
ed of the pickup truck to fuel the zero turn, tractor, etc.=C2=A0 More expe=
nsive, but very robust, much more volume and has resale value.=C2=A0=C2=A0<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Best,<br>Ian<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br><br>
</blockquote></div></div></div></div></div>

--0000000000007c2d40057c50aac1--

--===============8300762443112486303==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============8300762443112486303==--

---

From: "Al Fuller" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 11:05:44 +0900

This is a multipart message in MIME format.

--===============5183524079892616403==
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0054_01D48D53.A4AF9780"
Content-Language: en-us

This is a multipart message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0054_01D48D53.A4AF9780
	charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

John =E2=80=93 a friend had the same problem with a pontoon =
boat=E2=80=A6  It was killing people=E2=80=99s shoulders to lift and =
hold gas cans to fill the boat from the dock.

=20

The solution was to mount a Facet square fuel pump and a couple of fuel =
lines in the area near the tank.  Now, you just bring the gas can, set =
it down, put in the fuel lines, switch on, and let the pump do the work.

=20

Don=E2=80=99t know if this will work for you, but if not at least it can =
be a thought starter=E2=80=A6

=20

Al Fuller

'65 BJ-8

'85 Rx-7

=20

From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of john =
niolon
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 10:11 PM
To: shop-talk <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Shop-talk] old people pouring gas

=20

I=E2=80=99m admitting it.  I=E2=80=99m an old broke down guy.  Been =
fighting leaves this week with a zero turn and a cyclone rake leaf =
vacuum. (Nearly 2 acres with 75 oak trees =3D many leaves)   My worst =
part is filling equipment with fuel.  I=E2=80=99ve got bad shoulders... =
one surgery=E2=80=99d and the other needs it.  Hoisting and holding a =
30-35 pound gas can up above waist high is getting to me. The holding is =
the hard part... I know it gets lighter as it empties but it=E2=80=99s =
still a struggle.  It takes 12-15 gals to fill the zero turn and about =
1/2 gallon to fill the vac motor.  but both inlets are high and =
it=E2=80=99s at an awkward position also.=20

=20

I=E2=80=99m looking for a rack or tilting rack that will hold standard =
red plastic gas cans and allow for easy filling...I know I=E2=80=99d =
have to lift the can into the rack.. but then the rack could hold the =
weight during filling. I=E2=80=99ve seen the tilt racks for round 5 =
gallon cans but they are all too short.  I can=E2=80=99t find anything =
on the net to suit.  I won=E2=80=99t replace my cans with the ez-pour =
bottom spout cans. That would be about 150 bucks.  I keep 5 five gallon =
cans for the mowers.

=20

Haven=E2=80=99t found an affordable pumping system that wasn=E2=80=99t =
too expensive, yet  The cheap plastic ones behind Google all have bad  =
reviews. =20

=20

Anyone built something like this ??   Or, have an affordable pumping =
system that works ??

=20

thanks

john

------=_NextPart_000_0054_01D48D53.A4AF9780
	charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" =
xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =
xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" =
xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><meta =
name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 (filtered =
medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
	{font-family:"Cambria Math";
	panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:Calibri;
	panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
	{margin:0in;
	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	font-size:11.0pt;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:#0563C1;
	text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:#954F72;
	text-decoration:underline;}
p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0
	{mso-style-name:msonormal;
	mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
	margin-right:0in;
	mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
	margin-left:0in;
	font-size:11.0pt;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
span.EmailStyle18
	{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
.MsoChpDefault
	{mso-style-type:export-only;
	font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
	{size:8.5in 11.0in;
	margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
	{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
<o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-US =
link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>John =E2=80=93 a friend had the same problem with a =
pontoon boat=E2=80=A6=C2=A0 It was killing people=E2=80=99s shoulders to =
lift and hold gas cans to fill the boat from the dock.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The solution =
was to mount a Facet square fuel pump and a couple of fuel lines in the =
area near the tank.=C2=A0 Now, you just bring the gas can, set it down, =
put in the fuel lines, switch on, and let the pump do the =
work.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Don=E2=80=99t know if this will work for you, but if =
not at least it can be a thought starter=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Al Fuller</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>'65 BJ-8</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>'85 Rx-7</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Shop-talk =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>john =
niolon<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 05, 2018 10:11 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> shop-talk =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] old =
people pouring gas<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I=E2=80=99m admitting it.&nbsp; =
I=E2=80=99m an old broke down guy.&nbsp; Been fighting leaves this week =
with a zero turn and a cyclone rake leaf vacuum. (Nearly 2 acres with 75 =
oak trees =3D many leaves)&nbsp;&nbsp; My worst part is filling =
equipment with fuel.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve got bad shoulders... one =
surgery=E2=80=99d and the other needs it.&nbsp; Hoisting and holding a =
30-35 pound gas can up above waist high is getting to me. The holding is =
the hard part... I know it gets lighter as it empties but it=E2=80=99s =
still a struggle.&nbsp; It takes 12-15 gals to fill the zero turn and =
about 1/2 gallon to fill the vac motor.&nbsp; but both inlets are high =
and it=E2=80=99s at an awkward position also. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I=E2=80=99m looking for a rack or =
tilting rack that will hold standard red plastic gas cans and allow for =
easy filling...I know I=E2=80=99d have to lift the can into the rack.. =
but then the rack could hold the weight during filling. I=E2=80=99ve =
seen the tilt racks for round 5 gallon cans but they are all too =
short.&nbsp; I can=E2=80=99t find anything on the net to suit.&nbsp; I =
won=E2=80=99t replace my cans with the ez-pour bottom spout cans. That =
would be about 150 bucks.&nbsp; I keep 5 five gallon cans for the =
mowers.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Haven=E2=80=99t found an =
affordable pumping system that wasn=E2=80=99t too expensive, yet&nbsp; =
The cheap plastic ones behind Google all have bad&nbsp; reviews.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Anyone built something like this =
??&nbsp;&nbsp; Or, have an affordable pumping system that works =
??<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>john<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></=
div></div></div></body></html>
------=_NextPart_000_0054_01D48D53.A4AF9780--

--===============5183524079892616403==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============5183524079892616403==--

---

From: Steven Trovato <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 22:02:21 -0500

I find that working over an engine can be very 
hard on an "old broke down guy" especially with 
high vehicles like full-size SUVs.  I invested in 
a topside 
creeper:  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QGXSODA. 
Mine is an older model, but same idea.  When I 
have to transfer a lot of gas, I put the can up 
on the topside creeper.  I attach some tubing 
long enough to reach from the can to the tank I 
am filling.  I still manually tilt the can 
forward to get the gas to flow, but I am not 
supporting the whole weight.  I know that if you 
don't want to spend $150 to replace the cans, you 
probably don't want to spend $200 for a topside 
creeper.  The only way to justify that would be 
if you also want to use it for its intended 
purpose when working on cars.  Really, you just 
want a way to support a can high enough.  Have 
you considered rigging something onto a step ladder?

-Steve T.

At 08:10 AM 12/5/2018, john niolon wrote:
>I’m admitting it.  I’m an old broke down 
>guy.  Been fighting leaves this week with a zero 
>turn and a cyclone rake leaf vacuum. (Nearly 2 
>acres with 75 oak trees = many leaves)   My 
>worst part is filling equipment with 
>fuel.  I’ve got bad shoulders... one 
>surgery’d and the other needs it.  Hoisting 
>and holding a 30-35 pound gas can up above waist 
>high is getting to me. The holding is the hard 
>part... I know it gets lighter as it empties but 
>it’s still a struggle.  It takes 12-15 gals to 
>fill the zero turn and about 1/2 gallon to fill 
>the vac motor.  but both inlets are high and 
>it’s at an awkward position also.
>
>I’m looking for a rack or tilting rack that 
>will hold standard red plastic gas cans and 
>allow for easy filling...I know I’d have to 
>lift the can into the rack.. but then the rack 
>could hold the weight during filling. I’ve 
>seen the tilt racks for round 5 gallon cans but 
>they are all too short.  I can’t find anything 
>on the net to suit.  I won’t replace my cans 
>with the ez-pour bottom spout cans. That would 
>be about 150 bucks.  I keep 5 five gallon cans for the mowers.
>
>Haven’t found an affordable pumping system 
>that wasn’t too expensive, yet  The cheap 
>plastic ones behind Google all have bad  reviews.
>
>Anyone built something like this ??   Or, have 
>an affordable pumping system that works ??
>
>thanks
>john

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

[email-masked]

utox.team.net

---

From: "john niolon" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 21:05:33 -0600

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--===============8733397305589500574==
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BD_01D48CDE.432036C0"

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01D48CDE.432036C0
	charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

thanks Randy...  I looked at the terapump but it got awful reviews.. and =
bad customer support
Northern tool has the DuraMax on sale for 99 bucks now... I=E2=80=99m =
considering that one if I can
rig up a lifting system to get it up above my tanks.  I=E2=80=99ve about =
abandoned the home built idea
basically due to drum size, weight and wrestle-ability... I=E2=80=99m =
struggling with 5 gallons, can=E2=80=99t imagine
what 50 would do to me and my toes.!!!

From: RandE=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 7:30 PM
To: ShopTalk=20
Cc: [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] old people pouring gas

How about a gas can with a pump?=20
Here's a couple different sizes

https://smile.amazon.com/Second-Gen-TERAPUMP-TRFA01-Auto-Stop/dp/B010GNM7=
H4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1544059611&sr=3D8-3&keywords=3Dgas+can+wi=
th+pump

https://smile.amazon.com/DuraMax-Fluid-Transfer-14-Gallon-Rolling/dp/B000=
MT94QA/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1544059611&sr=3D8-2&keywords=3Dgas+ca=
n+with+pump

Randy

  How about a rope & pulley? A second rope & pulley would allow one to =
hold the can elevated & the second one to top it.  =20

  Peace,
  Pat

  Pat Horne =20

  thanks
  john

  [email-masked]

  Unsubscribe/Manage: =

  [email-masked]

  Unsubscribe/Manage: =
http://autox.teamnet/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]

------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01D48CDE.432036C0
	charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><HEAD></HEAD>
<BODY dir=3Dltr>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">
<DIV>thanks Randy...&nbsp; I looked at the terapump but it got awful =
reviews..=20
and bad customer support</DIV>
<DIV>Northern tool has the DuraMax on sale for 99 bucks now... =
I=E2=80=99m considering=20
that one if I can</DIV>
<DIV>rig up a lifting system to get it up above my tanks.&nbsp; =
I=E2=80=99ve about=20
abandoned the home built idea</DIV>
<DIV>basically due to drum size, weight and wrestle-ability... =
I=E2=80=99m struggling=20
with 5 gallons, can=E2=80=99t imagine</DIV>
<DIV>what 50 would do to me and my toes.!!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma">
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">RandE</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 05, 2018 7:30 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ShopTalk</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Shop-talk] old people pouring =
gas</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>How about a gas can with a pump?=20
<DIV>Here's a couple different sizes<BR></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A=20
href=3D"https://smile.amazon.com/Second-Gen-TERAPUMP-TRFA01-Auto-Stop/dp/=
B010GNM7H4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544059611&amp;sr=3D8-3&amp;k=
eywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump">https://smile.amazon.com/Second-Gen-TERAPUMP=
-TRFA01-Auto-Stop/dp/B010GNM7H4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D15440596=
11&amp;sr=3D8-3&amp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A=20
href=3D"https://smile.amazon.com/DuraMax-Fluid-Transfer-14-Gallon-Rolling=
/dp/B000MT94QA/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544059611&amp;sr=3D8-2&a=
mp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump">https://smile.amazon.com/DuraMax-Fluid-T=
ransfer-14-Gallon-Rolling/dp/B000MT94QA/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D=
1544059611&amp;sr=3D8-2&amp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Randy</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 7:17 PM Pat Horne &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc =
1px solid">
  <DIV>How about a rope &amp; pulley? A second rope &amp; pulley would =
allow one=20
  to hold the can elevated &amp; the second one to top it.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Peace,</DIV>
  <DIV>Pat<BR><BR>
  <DIV id=3Dm_6861100414930033492AppleMailSignature dir=3Dltr>Pat =
Horne&nbsp;=20
  <DIV>We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr><BR>On Dec 5, 2018, at 7:10 AM, john niolon &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A>&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: =
#000000">
  <DIV>I=E2=80=99m admitting it.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m an old broke down =
guy.&nbsp; Been fighting=20
  leaves this week with a zero turn and a cyclone rake leaf vacuum. =
(Nearly 2=20
  acres with 75 oak trees =3D many leaves)&nbsp;&nbsp; My worst part is =
filling=20
  equipment with fuel.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve got bad shoulders... one =
surgery=E2=80=99d and the=20
  other needs it.&nbsp; Hoisting and holding a 30-35 pound gas can up =
above=20
  waist high is getting to me. The holding is the hard part... I know it =
gets=20
  lighter as it empties but it=E2=80=99s still a struggle.&nbsp; It =
takes 12-15 gals to=20
  fill the zero turn and about 1/2 gallon to fill the vac motor.&nbsp; =
but both=20
  inlets are high and it=E2=80=99s at an awkward position also. </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I=E2=80=99m looking for a rack or tilting rack that will hold =
standard red=20
  plastic gas cans and allow for easy filling...I know I=E2=80=99d have =
to lift the can=20
  into the rack.. but then the rack could hold the weight during =
filling. I=E2=80=99ve=20
  seen the tilt racks for round 5 gallon cans but they are all too =
short.&nbsp;=20
  I can=E2=80=99t find anything on the net to suit.&nbsp; I =
won=E2=80=99t replace my cans with=20
  the ez-pour bottom spout cans. That would be about 150 bucks.&nbsp; I =
keep 5=20
  five gallon cans for the mowers.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Haven=E2=80=99t found an affordable pumping system that =
wasn=E2=80=99t too expensive,=20
  yet&nbsp; The cheap plastic ones behind Google all have bad&nbsp;=20
  reviews.&nbsp; </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Anyone built something like this ??&nbsp;&nbsp; Or, have an =
affordable=20
  pumping system that works ??</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>thanks</DIV>
  <DIV>john</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV=20
  =
dir=3Dltr><SPAN>_______________________________________________</SPAN><BR=
><SPAN></SPAN><BR><SPAN><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
  target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Donate: =
<A=20
  href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html"=20
  =
target=3D_blank>http://www.team.net/donate.html</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Sugge=
sted=20
  annual donation&nbsp; $12.96</SPAN><BR><SPAN>Archive: <A=20
  href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk"=20
  =
target=3D_blank>http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</A></SPAN><BR><SP=
AN></SPAN><BR><SPAN>Unsubscribe/Manage:=20
  <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas@icloud=
.com"=20
  =
target=3D_blank>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexa=
[email-masked]</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN></SPAN><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV>___________=
____________________________________<BR><BR><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
  target=3D_blank>[email-masked]</A><BR>Donate: <A=20
  href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel=3Dnoreferrer=20
  target=3D_blank>http://www.team.net/donate.html</A><BR>Suggested =
annual=20
  donation&nbsp; $12.96<BR>Archive: <A=20
  href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk" rel=3Dnoreferrer=20
  =
target=3D_blank>http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</A><BR><BR>Unsubs=
cribe/Manage:=20
  <A =
href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]" =

  rel=3Dnoreferrer=20
  =
target=3D_blank>http://autox.teamnet/mailman/options/shop-talk/rande@pobo=
x.com</A><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01D48CDE.432036C0--

--===============8733397305589500574==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============8733397305589500574==--

---

From: RandE <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:32:40 -0600

--===============6736846537331561034==

--000000000000c2b46c057c5a88f1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

How about a drill powered pump?
This one is for water but there are other models for other fluids.

https://www.amazon.com/ECO-FLO-Products-PUP62-Water-Transfer/dp/B00LIRSW0Y/=
ref=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1544102898&sr=3D8-4&keywords=3Ddrill+pump

Randy

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 7:10 AM Benjamin Zwissler <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> This still requires lifting the the fuel tank higher than the tank you're
> filling, but I've used these for kerosene and gasoline.  They're cheap an=
d
> will move 5 gallons in a couple minutes.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Dyna-Glo-DH-10-Kerosene-Manual-Operation/dp/B000DZ=
H8BG
>
> Works great if you have the can in the back of a pickup truck.
>
> Ben....
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 11:57 PM john niolon <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>> thanks Randy...  I looked at the terapump but it got awful reviews.. and
>> bad customer support
>> Northern tool has the DuraMax on sale for 99 bucks now... I=E2=80=99m co=
nsidering
>> that one if I can
>> rig up a lifting system to get it up above my tanks.  I=E2=80=99ve about
>> basically due to drum size, weight and wrestle-ability... I=E2=80=99m st=
ruggling
>> with 5 gallons, can=E2=80=99t imagine
>> *From:* RandE <[email-masked]>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2018 7:30 PM
>> *To:* ShopTalk <[email-masked]>
>> *Cc:* [email-masked]
>> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] old people pouring gas
>>
>> https://smile.amazon.com/Second-Gen-TERAPUMP-TRFA01-Auto-Stop/dp/B010GNM=
7H4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1544059611&sr=3D8-3&keywords=3Dgas+can+wit=
h+pump
>>
>>
>> https://smile.amazon.com/DuraMax-Fluid-Transfer-14-Gallon-Rolling/dp/B00=
0MT94QA/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1544059611&sr=3D8-2&keywords=3Dgas+can=
+with+pump
>>> How about a rope & pulley? A second rope & pulley would allow one to
>>> hold the can elevated & the second one to top it.
>>>
>>> Peace,
>>> Pat
>>>
>>> Pat Horne
>>> I=E2=80=99m admitting it.  I=E2=80=99m an old broke down guy.  Been fig=
hting leaves this
>>> week with a zero turn and a cyclone rake leaf vacuum. (Nearly 2 acres w=
ith
>>> fuel.  I=E2=80=99ve got bad shoulders... one surgery=E2=80=99d and the =
other needs it.
>>> Hoisting and holding a 30-35 pound gas can up above waist high is getti=
ng
>>> to me. The holding is the hard part... I know it gets lighter as it emp=
ties
>>> but it=E2=80=99s still a struggle.  It takes 12-15 gals to fill the zer=
o turn and
>>> about 1/2 gallon to fill the vac motor.  but both inlets are high and i=
t=E2=80=99s
>>> I=E2=80=99m looking for a rack or tilting rack that will hold standard =
red
>>> plastic gas cans and allow for easy filling...I know I=E2=80=99d have t=
o lift the
>>> can into the rack.. but then the rack could hold the weight during fill=
ing.
>>> I=E2=80=99ve seen the tilt racks for round 5 gallon cans but they are a=
ll too
>>> short.  I can=E2=80=99t find anything on the net to suit.  I won=E2=80=
=99t replace my cans
>>> with the ez-pour bottom spout cans. That would be about 150 bucks.  I k=
eep
>>> 5 five gallon cans for the mowers.
>>>
too expensive,
>>> yet  The cheap plastic ones behind Google all have bad  reviews.
>>>
>>> <http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]>
>>>
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
>>
>>
>
> --
> Ben Zwissler
> [email-masked]
> Columbus, IN
>

--000000000000c2b46c057c5a88f1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>How about a drill powered pump?=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div=
>This one is for water but there are other models for other fluids.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/ECO-FLO-Pro=
ducts-PUP62-Water-Transfer/dp/B00LIRSW0Y/ref=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1=
544102898&amp;sr=3D8-4&amp;keywords=3Ddrill+pump">https://www.amazon.com/EC=
O-FLO-Products-PUP62-Water-Transfer/dp/B00LIRSW0Y/ref=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8&am=
p;qid=3D1544102898&amp;sr=3D8-4&amp;keywords=3Ddrill+pump</a><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>Randy</div><div><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 7:10 AM Benjamin Zwissler &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">This still=
 requires lifting the the fuel tank higher than the tank you&#39;re filling=
, but I&#39;ve used these for kerosene and gasoline.=C2=A0 They&#39;re chea=
p and will move 5 gallons in a couple minutes.<div><br></div><div><a href=
=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Dyna-Glo-DH-10-Kerosene-Manual-Operation/dp/B000=
DZH8BG" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Dyna-Glo-DH-10-Kerosene-Ma=
nual-Operation/dp/B000DZH8BG</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Works great i=
f you have the can in the back of a pickup truck.</div><div><br></div><div>=
Ben....</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 11:57 PM john niolon &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;;COLOR:#000000">
<div>thanks Randy...=C2=A0 I looked at the terapump but it got awful review=
s..=20
and bad customer support</div>
<div>Northern tool has the DuraMax on sale for 99 bucks now... I=E2=80=99m =
considering=20
that one if I can</div>
<div>rig up a lifting system to get it up above my tanks.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99v=
e about=20
abandoned the home built idea</div>
<div>basically due to drum size, weight and wrestle-ability... I=E2=80=99m =
struggling=20
with 5 gallons, can=E2=80=99t imagine</div>
<div>what 50 would do to me and my toes.!!!</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:rande90@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">RandE</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 05, 2018 7:30 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:shop-t=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">ShopTalk</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] old people pouring gas</div></div></di=
v>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">How about a gas can with a pump?=20
<div>Here&#39;s a couple different sizes<br></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><a href=3D"https://smile.amazon.com/Second-Gen-TERAPUMP-TRFA01-Auto-St=
op/dp/B010GNM7H4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544059611&amp;sr=3D8-3&a=
mp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump" target=3D"_blank">https://smile.amazon.com=
/Second-Gen-TERAPUMP-TRFA01-Auto-Stop/dp/B010GNM7H4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?ie=3DUTF8&=
amp;qid=3D1544059611&amp;sr=3D8-3&amp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump</a><br><=
/div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><a href=3D"https://smile.amazon.com/DuraMax-Fluid-Transfer-14-Gallon-R=
olling/dp/B000MT94QA/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544059611&amp;sr=3D8=
-2&amp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump" target=3D"_blank">https://smile.amazon=
.com/DuraMax-Fluid-Transfer-14-Gallon-Rolling/dp/B000MT94QA/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=
=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544059611&amp;sr=3D8-2&amp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump<=
/a><br></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Randy</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 7:17 PM Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
=20
wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid">
  <div>How about a rope &amp; pulley? A second rope &amp; pulley would allo=
w one=20
  to hold the can elevated &amp; the second one to top it.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
  <div>=C2=A0</div>
  <div>Peace,</div>
  <div>Pat<br><br>
  <div id=3D"m_-2236157765967310959m_-5937238364793754607m_6861100414930033=
492AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne=C2=A0=20
  <div>We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity</div>
  <div>=C2=A0</div></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Dec 5, 2018, at 7:10 AM, john niolon &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=20
  wrote:<br><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;;COLOR:#000000"=
  <div>I=E2=80=99m admitting it.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m an old broke down guy.=
=C2=A0 Been fighting=20
  leaves this week with a zero turn and a cyclone rake leaf vacuum. (Nearly=
 2=20
  acres with 75 oak trees =3D many leaves)=C2=A0=C2=A0 My worst part is fil=
ling=20
  equipment with fuel.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve got bad shoulders... one surgery=
=E2=80=99d and the=20
  other needs it.=C2=A0 Hoisting and holding a 30-35 pound gas can up above=
=20
  waist high is getting to me. The holding is the hard part... I know it ge=
ts=20
  lighter as it empties but it=E2=80=99s still a struggle.=C2=A0 It takes 1=
2-15 gals to=20
  fill the zero turn and about 1/2 gallon to fill the vac motor.=C2=A0 but =
both=20
  inlets are high and it=E2=80=99s at an awkward position also. </div>
  <div>=C2=A0</div>
  <div>I=E2=80=99m looking for a rack or tilting rack that will hold standa=
rd red=20
  plastic gas cans and allow for easy filling...I know I=E2=80=99d have to =
lift the can=20
  into the rack.. but then the rack could hold the weight during filling. I=
=E2=80=99ve=20
  seen the tilt racks for round 5 gallon cans but they are all too short.=
=C2=A0=20
  I can=E2=80=99t find anything on the net to suit.=C2=A0 I won=E2=80=99t r=
eplace my cans with=20
  the ez-pour bottom spout cans. That would be about 150 bucks.=C2=A0 I kee=
p 5=20
  five gallon cans for the mowers.</div>
  <div>=C2=A0</div>
  <div>Haven=E2=80=99t found an affordable pumping system that wasn=E2=80=
=99t too expensive,=20
  yet=C2=A0 The cheap plastic ones behind Google all have bad=C2=A0=20
  reviews.=C2=A0 </div>
  <div>=C2=A0</div>
  <div>Anyone built something like this ??=C2=A0=C2=A0 Or, have an affordab=
le=20
  pumping system that works ??</div>
  <div>=C2=A0</div>
  <div>thanks</div>
  <div>john</div></div></div></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><span>_______________________________________________</s=
pan><br><span></span><br><span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a></span><br><span>Donate: <a h=
ref=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.n=
et/donate.html</a></span><br><span>Suggested=20
  annual donation=C2=A0 $12.96</span><br><span>Archive: <a href=3D"http://w=
ww.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipe=
rmail/shop-talk</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Unsubscribe/Manage:=20
  <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas@icl=
oud.com" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/=
[email-masked]</a></span><br><span></span><br></div></div></div>____=
___________________________________________<br><br><a href=3D"mailto:Shop-t=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>Donat=
e: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>Suggested annual=20
  donation=C2=A0 $12.96<br>Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermai=
l/shop-talk" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/piper=
mail/shop-talk</a><br><br>Unsubscribe/Manage:=20
  <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]=
m" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.teamnet/mailman/option=
s/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a><br><br></blockquote></div></div></div></div=
></div>
_______________________________________________<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Shop-talk@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>
et=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</a><br>
<br>
alk/[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox=
.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"m_-2236157765967310959gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_si=
gnature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Ben Zwissler<br></div><a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br></div>=
Columbus, IN<br></div></div>
</blockquote></div>

--000000000000c2b46c057c5a88f1--

--===============6736846537331561034==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============6736846537331561034==--

---

From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 10:30:26 -0500 12/06/2018 10:30:27 AM, Serialize complete at 12/06/2018 10:30:27 AM

This is a multipart message in MIME format.
--===============4494847914214278564==

This is a multipart message in MIME format.
--=_alternative 00552DFB8525835B_=

Steve writes...

>I invested in a topside creeper:  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QGXSODA. 

I want to not only second this idea, but I will also encourage ANYONE that 
works on trucks or SUVS (but cars also), get one of these.  I don't use it 
as often as others, but I DO NOT consider doing some jobs without it 
anymore.

I would also pay twice the price for it, as it increases the comfort, 
visibility, and access when doing work.  (I have a lift also, but this is 
for topside work.)

I have changed many sets of plugs/wires/etc since getting it.  One truck I 
did before I had it, and again after I had it.  The time savings alone was 
about 3 hours.  Just not having to get out from under the hood is a HUGE 
savings.

BTW, if you remember I was having problems with my GMC 3500 and was 
suggested to replace the igintion system.  I did it with my creeper. Coil, 
rotor, cap, wires, and plugs for a V8 was about 40 mins!  I would estimate 
it would have been at least a hour longer (and whole lot less comfortable) 
if I didn't have the creeper.  Especially given the fact that the 
distributor is right on the firewall, below the heads.  The only way to 
really see it is from directly above.

(as a follow up on if that fixed the problem, the truck hasn't been stored 
in the damn garage yet, so I don't know if it fixed it, but I'm fairly 
sure it will.)

So I give it a HUGE vote.  Besides, why do you need a reason to buy a new 
tool?  8>)

Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Tech Viper
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational 
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph 
Waldo Emerson 
--=_alternative 00552DFB8525835B_=

<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Steve writes...</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">&gt;</font><tt><font size=2>I invested
in a topside creeper: &nbsp;</font></tt><a href=https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QGXSODA><tt><font size=2>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QGXSODA</font></tt></a><tt><font size=2>.
</font></tt>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I want to not only second this idea,
but I will also encourage ANYONE that works on trucks or SUVS (but cars
also), get one of these. &nbsp;I don't use it as often as others, but I
DO NOT consider doing some jobs without it anymore.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I would also pay twice the price for
it, as it increases the comfort, visibility, and access when doing work.
&nbsp;(I have a lift also, but this is for topside work.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I have changed many sets of plugs/wires/etc
since getting it. &nbsp;One truck I did before I had it, and again after
I had it. &nbsp;The time savings alone was about 3 hours. &nbsp;Just not
having to get out from under the hood is a HUGE savings.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">BTW, if you remember I was having problems
with my GMC 3500 and was suggested to replace the igintion system. &nbsp;I
did it with my creeper. &nbsp;Coil, rotor, cap, wires, and plugs for a
V8 was about 40 mins! &nbsp;I would estimate it would have been at least
a hour longer (and whole lot less comfortable) if I didn't have the creeper.
&nbsp;Especially given the fact that the distributor is right on the firewall,
below the heads. &nbsp;The only way to really see it is from directly above.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">(as a follow up on if that fixed the
problem, the truck hasn't been stored in the damn garage yet, so I don't
know if it fixed it, but I'm fairly sure it will.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">So I give it a HUGE vote. &nbsp;Besides,
why do you need a reason to buy a new tool? &nbsp;8&gt;)</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.<br>
Tech Viper<br>
&quot;Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory.&quot; Ralph
Waldo Emerson </font>
--=_alternative 00552DFB8525835B_=--

--===============4494847914214278564==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============4494847914214278564==--

---

From: Steven Trovato <[email-masked]> mail.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 12:35:07 -0500

--===============8240415035795547351==
	boundary="=====================_1000909029==.ALT"

--=====================_1000909029==.ALT
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

There is no way I would do this.  On my drill, if 
you look into the vent slots while the drill is 
running, you see sparks.  If you are going to 
bother buying a pump, just go get a small 
electric fuel  pump.  There are still risks, but 
at least you are dealing with something intended 
for gasoline.  You can find suitable pumps for 
not much money.  Here's one example,  pretty much selected at random.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Airtex-E8251-Electric-Fuel-Pump/42403965

-Steve T.

At 08:32 AM 12/6/2018, RandE wrote:
>How about a drill powered pump?=C2 =C2
><https://www.amazon.com/ECO-FLO-Products-PUP62-Water-Transfer/dp/B00LIRSW0=
Y/ref=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1544102898&sr=3D8-4&keywords=3Ddrill+pump>ht=
tps://www.amazon.com/ECO-FLO-Products-PUP62-Water-Transfer/dp/B00LIRSW0Y/re=
f=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1544102898&sr=3D8-4&keywords=3Ddrill+pump

---

--=====================_1000909029==.ALT
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html>
<body>
There is no way I would do this.&nbsp; On my drill, if you look into the
vent slots while the drill is running, you see sparks.&nbsp; If you are
going to bother buying a pump, just go get a small electric fuel&nbsp;
pump.&nbsp; There are still risks, but at least you are dealing with
something intended for gasoline.&nbsp; You can find suitable pumps for
not much money.&nbsp; Here's one example,&nbsp; pretty much selected at
random.<br><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.walmart.com/ip/Airtex-E8251-Electric-Fuel-Pump/42403=
965" eudora=3D"autourl">
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Airtex-E8251-Electric-Fuel-Pump/42403965</a>
<br><br>
-Steve T.<br><br>
At 08:32 AM 12/6/2018, RandE wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">How about a drill powered pu=
mp?=C2
=C2 <br>
This one is for water but there are other models for other
fluids.<br><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/ECO-FLO-Products-PUP62-Water-Transfer/dp/=
B00LIRSW0Y/ref=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544102898&amp;sr=3D8-4&amp;key=
words=3Ddrill+pump">
https://www.amazon.com/ECO-FLO-Products-PUP62-Water-Transfer/dp/B00LIRSW0Y/=
ref=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544102898&amp;sr=3D8-4&amp;keywords=3Ddri=
ll+pump</a>
<br><br>
<br>
Randy</blockquote><div id=3D"DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br />
<table style=3D"border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;">
	<tr>
        <td style=3D"width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;"><a href=3D"https://ww=
w.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm_campaign=3Ds=
ig-email&utm_content=3Demailclient&utm_term=3Dicon" target=3D"_blank"><img =
src=3D"https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orang=
e-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif" alt=3D"" width=3D"46" height=3D"29" style=3D"w=
idth: 46px; height: 29px;" /></a></td>
		<td style=3D"width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: #41424e; font-size: =
13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">Virus-=
free. <a href=3D"https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_sou=
rce=3Dlink&utm_campaign=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Demailclient&utm_term=3Dli=
nk" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com</a>
		</td>
	</tr>
</table><a href=3D"#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width=3D"1" heigh=
t=3D"1"> </a></div></body>
</html>

--=====================_1000909029==.ALT--

--===============8240415035795547351==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============8240415035795547351==--

---

From: "Tony Vaccaro" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 17:51:30 -0500

--===============6651411417527721822==
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01D48D8C.51B792B0"
Content-Language: en-us

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01D48D8C.51B792B0
	boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000D_01D48D8C.51B792B0"

------=_NextPart_001_000D_01D48D8C.51B792B0
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Facet used to make a wonderful gas pump powered by 12 volts.  It was
basically a facet fuel pump in a housing that looked like a gas pump =
nozzle.

I have one here and the facet pump on the inside either locked up or =
went
bad.  It has been sitting on my workbench for a year waiting for me to =
fix
it.

=20

Tony V

=20

=20

From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Steven
Trovato
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 12:35 PM
To: [email-masked]; ShopTalk <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] old people pouring gas

=20

There is no way I would do this.  On my drill, if you look into the vent
slots while the drill is running, you see sparks.  If you are going to
bother buying a pump, just go get a small electric fuel  pump.  There =
are
still risks, but at least you are dealing with something intended for
gasoline.  You can find suitable pumps for not much money.  Here's one
example,  pretty much selected at random.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Airtex-E8251-Electric-Fuel-Pump/42403965=20

-Steve T.

How about a drill powered pump?=C2 =C2=20
This one is for water but there are other models for other fluids.

https://www.amazon.com/ECO-FLO-Products-PUP62-Water-Transfer/dp/B00LIRSW0=
Y/r
ef=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8
<https://www.amazon.com/ECO-FLO-Products-PUP62-Water-Transfer/dp/B00LIRSW=
0Y/
ref=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1544102898&sr=3D8-4&keywords=3Ddrill+pump>
&qid=3D1544102898&sr=3D8-4&keywords=3Ddrill+pump=20

Randy

=20

=20
<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm=
_campai
gn=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Demailclient&utm_term=3Dicon>=20

Virus-free.
<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm=
_campai
gn=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Demailclient&utm_term=3Dlink> www.avast.com=20

=20

------=_NextPart_001_000D_01D48D8C.51B792B0
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" =
xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =
xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" =
xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1"><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word =
15 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* =
{behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style><![endif]--><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
	{font-family:"Cambria Math";
	panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:Calibri;
	panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
	{margin:0in;
	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	font-size:11.0pt;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:blue;
	text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:purple;
	text-decoration:underline;}
p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0
	{mso-style-name:msonormal;
	mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
	margin-right:0in;
	mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
	margin-left:0in;
	font-size:11.0pt;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
span.EmailStyle18
	{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
	font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
	color:windowtext;
	font-weight:normal;
	font-style:normal;
	text-decoration:none none;}
.MsoChpDefault
	{mso-style-type:export-only;
	font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
	{size:8.5in 11.0in;
	margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.WordSection1
	{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
<o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue =
vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Facet used =
to make a wonderful gas pump powered by 12 volts.&nbsp; It was basically =
a facet fuel pump in a housing that looked like a gas pump =
nozzle.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have one here and the facet =
pump on the inside either locked up or went bad.&nbsp; It has been =
sitting on my workbench for a year waiting for me to fix =
it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Tony V<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Shop-talk =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steven =
Trovato<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 06, 2018 12:35 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; ShopTalk =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] old =
people pouring gas<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>There is no =
way I would do this.&nbsp; On my drill, if you look into the vent slots =
while the drill is running, you see sparks.&nbsp; If you are going to =
bother buying a pump, just go get a small electric fuel&nbsp; =
pump.&nbsp; There are still risks, but at least you are dealing with =
something intended for gasoline.&nbsp; You can find suitable pumps for =
not much money.&nbsp; Here's one example,&nbsp; pretty much selected at =
random.<br><br><a =
href=3D"https://www.walmart.com/ip/Airtex-E8251-Electric-Fuel-Pump/424039=
65">https://www.walmart.com/ip/Airtex-E8251-Electric-Fuel-Pump/42403965</=
a> <br><br>-Steve T.<br><br>At 08:32 AM 12/6/2018, RandE =
wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>How =
about a drill powered pump?=C2 =C2 <br>This one is for water but there =
are other models for other fluids.<br><br><a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/ECO-FLO-Products-PUP62-Water-Transfer/dp/B=
00LIRSW0Y/ref=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544102898&amp;sr=3D8-4&amp;ke=
ywords=3Ddrill+pump">https://www.amazon.com/ECO-FLO-Products-PUP62-Water-=
Transfer/dp/B00LIRSW0Y/ref=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544102898&amp;sr=
=3D8-4&amp;keywords=3Ddrill+pump</a> =
<br><br><br>Randy<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div =
id=3DDAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><table class=3DMsoNormalTable =
border=3D1 cellpadding=3D0 style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #D3D4DE =
1.0pt'><tr><td width=3D55 =
style=3D'width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:9.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_source=
=3Dlink&amp;utm_campaign=3Dsig-email&amp;utm_content=3Demailclient&amp;ut=
m_term=3Dicon" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D'border:solid windowtext =
1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none'><img border=3D0 width=3D46 =
height=3D29 style=3D'width:.4791in;height:.302in' id=3D"_x0000_i1025" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" alt=3D"Image removed by =
sender."></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=3D470 =
style=3D'width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:9.0pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'line-height:13.5pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#41424E'>V=
irus-free. <a =
href=3D"https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_source=
=3Dlink&amp;utm_campaign=3Dsig-email&amp;utm_content=3Demailclient&amp;ut=
m_term=3Dlink" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#4453EA'>www.avast.com</span></a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></body></html>
------=_NextPart_001_000D_01D48D8C.51B792B0--

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01D48D8C.51B792B0
	name="image001.jpg"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-ID: <[email-masked]>

/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAYABgAAD/2wBDAAoHBwgHBgoICAgLCgoLDhgQDg0NDh0VFhEYIx8lJCIf
IiEmKzcvJik0KSEiMEExNDk7Pj4+JS5ESUM8SDc9Pjv/wAALCAAdAC4BAREA/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEB
AQEAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAAAgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1Fh
ByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkKFhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZ
WmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWGh4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXG
x8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oACAEBAAA/APZqKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
KKKKKKK//9k=

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01D48D8C.51B792B0--

--===============6651411417527721822==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============6651411417527721822==--

---

From: Steven Trovato <[email-masked]> mail.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2018 18:00:23 -0500

--===============0783444211559795086==
	boundary="=====================_1020628475==.ALT"

--=====================_1020628475==.ALT
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That is all true.  However, I do not like the 
idea that the safety of the operation is 
dependent on a person remembering which drill to 
use.  I have never seen one of those drill pumps 
that was approved for use with gasoline.  Maybe 
they exist.  I just have never seen 
one.  Usually, there is a specific statement about NOT using with gasoline.=

I have one more thought about using an actual 
fuel pump like I suggested earlier.  I have done 
this, and it works great.  Make sure you check 
the gpm rating of the pump you select.  I pumped 
out the 3/4 full fuel tank on my boat using a 
pump like that, sending the fuel directly into 
the gas tank of my Ford Expedition.  My boat has 
a 41 gallon tank.  The Expedition capacity is 
33.5 gallons.  I made sure that there was enough 
room in the tank.  The car was almost empty when 
I started.  Anyway, the pump I used was 
originally intended for an MGA.  The whole 
transfer operation took about 30 minutes.  If I 
was purchasing a pump specifically for this 
purpose, I would look for one that would get the job done a little faster.

-Steve T.

At 05:25 PM 12/6/2018, John Innis wrote:
>It depends on your drill.=C2  When I was in A&P 
>school we were never allowed to use an electric 
>drill for this very reason.=C2  We only used air 
>drills.=C2  But a lot of newer drills are brushless.=C2  No brushes, no sp=
arks.=C2
>
>On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:09 PM Steven Trovato 
>There is no way I would do this.=C2  On my drill, 
>if you look into the vent slots while the drill 
>is running, you see sparks.=C2  If you are going 
>to bother buying a pump, just go get a small 
>electric fuel=C2  pump.=C2  There are still risks, 
>but at least you are dealing with something 
>intended for gasoline.=C2  You can find suitable 
>pumps for not much money.=C2  Here's one 
>example,=C2  pretty much selected at random.
>
><https://www.walmart.com/ip/Airtex-E8251-Electric-Fuel-Pump/42403965>https=
://www.walmart.com/ip/Airtex-E8251-Electric-Fuel-Pump/42403965 

---

--=====================_1020628475==.ALT
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html>
<body>
That is all true.&nbsp; However, I do not like the idea that the safety
of the operation is dependent on a person remembering which drill to
use.&nbsp; I have never seen one of those drill pumps that was approved
for use with gasoline.&nbsp; Maybe they exist.&nbsp; I just have never
seen one.&nbsp; Usually, there is a specific statement about NOT using
with gasoline.&nbsp; <br><br>
I have one more thought about using an actual fuel pump like I suggested
earlier.&nbsp; I have done this, and it works great.&nbsp; Make sure you
check the gpm rating of the pump you select.&nbsp; I pumped out the 3/4
full fuel tank on my boat using a pump like that, sending the fuel
directly into the gas tank of my Ford Expedition.&nbsp; My boat has a 41
gallon tank.&nbsp; The Expedition capacity is 33.5 gallons.&nbsp; I made
sure that there was enough room in the tank.&nbsp; The car was almost
empty when I started.&nbsp; Anyway, the pump I used was originally
intended for an MGA.&nbsp; The whole transfer operation took about 30
minutes.&nbsp; If I was purchasing a pump specifically for this purpose,
I would look for one that would get the job done a little faster.&nbsp;
<br><br>
-Steve T.<br><br>
At 05:25 PM 12/6/2018, John Innis wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">It depends on your drill.=C2=
&nbsp;
When I was in A&amp;P school we were never allowed to use an electric
drill for this very reason.=C2&nbsp; We only used air drills.=C2&nbsp; But =
a
lot of newer drills are brushless.=C2&nbsp; No brushes, no sparks.=C2&nbsp;=

<br><br>
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:09 PM Steven Trovato
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>
&gt; wrote:<br>

<dl>
<dd>There is no way I would do this.=C2&nbsp; On my drill, if you look into=

the vent slots while the drill is running, you see sparks.=C2&nbsp; If you
are going to bother buying a pump, just go get a small electric
fuel=C2&nbsp; pump.=C2&nbsp; There are still risks, but at least you are
dealing with something intended for gasoline.=C2&nbsp; You can find
suitable pumps for not much money.=C2&nbsp; Here's one example,=C2&nbsp;
pretty much selected at random.<br><br>

<dd>
965">

<dd>-Steve T.
</dl></blockquote><div id=3D"DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br />

--=====================_1020628475==.ALT--

--===============0783444211559795086==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============0783444211559795086==--

---

From: Benjamin Zwissler <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 08:10:40 -0500

--===============7974352918926252869==

--000000000000691d72057c5a3a60
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This still requires lifting the the fuel tank higher than the tank you're
filling, but I've used these for kerosene and gasoline.  They're cheap and
will move 5 gallons in a couple minutes.

https://www.amazon.com/Dyna-Glo-DH-10-Kerosene-Manual-Operation/dp/B000DZH8=
BG

Ben....

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 11:57 PM john niolon <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Northern tool has the DuraMax on sale for 99 bucks now... I=E2=80=99m con=
sidering
> rig up a lifting system to get it up above my tanks.  I=E2=80=99ve about =
abandoned
> the home built idea
> basically due to drum size, weight and wrestle-ability... I=E2=80=99m str=
uggling
> https://smile.amazon.com/Second-Gen-TERAPUMP-TRFA01-Auto-Stop/dp/B010GNM7=
H4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1544059611&sr=3D8-3&keywords=3Dgas+can+with=
+pump
> https://smile.amazon.com/DuraMax-Fluid-Transfer-14-Gallon-Rolling/dp/B000=
MT94QA/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1544059611&sr=3D8-2&keywords=3Dgas+can+=
with+pump
>> How about a rope & pulley? A second rope & pulley would allow one to hol=
d
>> I=E2=80=99m admitting it.  I=E2=80=99m an old broke down guy.  Been figh=
ting leaves this
>> week with a zero turn and a cyclone rake leaf vacuum. (Nearly 2 acres wi=
th
>> fuel.  I=E2=80=99ve got bad shoulders... one surgery=E2=80=99d and the o=
ther needs it.
>> Hoisting and holding a 30-35 pound gas can up above waist high is gettin=
g
>> to me. The holding is the hard part... I know it gets lighter as it empt=
ies
>> but it=E2=80=99s still a struggle.  It takes 12-15 gals to fill the zero=
 turn and
=E2=80=99s
>> I=E2=80=99m looking for a rack or tilting rack that will hold standard r=
ed
>> plastic gas cans and allow for easy filling...I know I=E2=80=99d have to=
 lift the
>> can into the rack.. but then the rack could hold the weight during filli=
ng.
>> I=E2=80=99ve seen the tilt racks for round 5 gallon cans but they are al=
l too
=99t replace my cans
>> with the ez-pour bottom spout cans. That would be about 150 bucks.  I ke=
ep
>> Haven=E2=80=99t found an affordable pumping system that wasn=E2=80=99t t=
oo expensive,
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]

--=20
Ben Zwissler
[email-masked]
Columbus, IN

--000000000000691d72057c5a3a60
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">This still requires lifting the the fuel =
tank higher than the tank you&#39;re filling, but I&#39;ve used these for k=
erosene and gasoline.=C2=A0 They&#39;re cheap and will move 5 gallons in a =
couple minutes.<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Dyna-G=
lo-DH-10-Kerosene-Manual-Operation/dp/B000DZH8BG">https://www.amazon.com/Dy=
na-Glo-DH-10-Kerosene-Manual-Operation/dp/B000DZH8BG</a><br></div><div><br>=
</div><div>Works great if you have the can in the back of a pickup truck.</=
div><div><br></div><div>Ben....</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at =
11:57 PM john niolon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;;COLOR:#000000">
<div>thanks Randy...=C2=A0 I looked at the terapump but it got awful review=
s..=20
and bad customer support</div>
<div>Northern tool has the DuraMax on sale for 99 bucks now... I=E2=80=99m =
considering=20
that one if I can</div>
<div>rig up a lifting system to get it up above my tanks.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99v=
e about=20
abandoned the home built idea</div>
<div>basically due to drum size, weight and wrestle-ability... I=E2=80=99m =
struggling=20
with 5 gallons, can=E2=80=99t imagine</div>
<div>what 50 would do to me and my toes.!!!</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:rande90@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">RandE</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 05, 2018 7:30 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:shop-t=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">ShopTalk</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] old people pouring gas</div></div></di=
v>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">How about a gas can with a pump?=20
<div>Here&#39;s a couple different sizes<br></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><a href=3D"https://smile.amazon.com/Second-Gen-TERAPUMP-TRFA01-Auto-St=
op/dp/B010GNM7H4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544059611&amp;sr=3D8-3&a=
mp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump" target=3D"_blank">https://smile.amazon.com=
/Second-Gen-TERAPUMP-TRFA01-Auto-Stop/dp/B010GNM7H4/ref=3Dsr_1_3?ie=3DUTF8&=
amp;qid=3D1544059611&amp;sr=3D8-3&amp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump</a><br><=
/div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><a href=3D"https://smile.amazon.com/DuraMax-Fluid-Transfer-14-Gallon-R=
olling/dp/B000MT94QA/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544059611&amp;sr=3D8=
-2&amp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump" target=3D"_blank">https://smile.amazon=
.com/DuraMax-Fluid-Transfer-14-Gallon-Rolling/dp/B000MT94QA/ref=3Dsr_1_2?ie=
=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544059611&amp;sr=3D8-2&amp;keywords=3Dgas+can+with+pump<=
/a><br></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Randy</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 7:17 PM Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
=20
wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid">
  <div>How about a rope &amp; pulley? A second rope &amp; pulley would allo=
w one=20
  to hold the can elevated &amp; the second one to top it.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
  <div>=C2=A0</div>
  <div>Peace,</div>
  <div>Pat<br><br>
  <div id=3D"m_-5937238364793754607m_6861100414930033492AppleMailSignature"=
 dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne=C2=A0=20
  <div>We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity</div>
  <div>=C2=A0</div></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Dec 5, 2018, at 7:10 AM, john niolon &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=20
  wrote:<br><br></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;;COLOR:#000000"=
_______________________________________________<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Shop-talk@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>
et=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</a><br>
<br>
alk/[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox=
.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div><div>Ben Zwissler<br></div><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br></div>Columbus, IN<br></div>=
</div>

--000000000000691d72057c5a3a60--

--===============7974352918926252869==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============7974352918926252869==--

---

From: John Innis <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 16:25:24 -0600

--===============4696813585022575804==

--0000000000003d04ba057c61fa62
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It depends on your drill.  When I was in A&P school we were never allowed
to use an electric drill for this very reason.  We only used air drills.
But a lot of newer drills are brushless.  No brushes, no sparks.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:09 PM Steven Trovato <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> bother buying a pump, just go get a small electric fuel  pump.  There are
> How about a drill powered pump?=C3=82 =C3=82
Y/ref=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1544102898&sr=3D8-4&keywords=3Ddrill+pump
> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm=
_campaign=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Demailclient&utm_term=3Dicon> Virus-free=
.
> www.avast.com
_campaign=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Demailclient&utm_term=3Dlink>
> <#m_-5549131086903092040_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
>
>

--=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D Never offend people with style when you   =3D
=3D can offend with substance --- Sam Brown  =3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

--0000000000003d04ba057c61fa62
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr">It depends on your drill.=C2=A0 When I was in A&amp;P scho=
ol we were never allowed to use an electric drill for this very reason.=C2=
=A0 We only used air drills.=C2=A0 But a lot of newer drills are brushless.=
=C2=A0 No brushes, no sparks.=C2=A0 <br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:09 PM Steven Trovato &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
There is no way I would do this.=C2=A0 On my drill, if you look into the
vent slots while the drill is running, you see sparks.=C2=A0 If you are
going to bother buying a pump, just go get a small electric fuel=C2=A0
pump.=C2=A0 There are still risks, but at least you are dealing with
something intended for gasoline.=C2=A0 You can find suitable pumps for
not much money.=C2=A0 Here&#39;s one example,=C2=A0 pretty much selected at
random.<br><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.walmart.com/ip/Airtex-E8251-Electric-Fuel-Pump/42403=
965" target=3D"_blank">
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Airtex-E8251-Electric-Fuel-Pump/42403965</a>
<br><br>
-Steve T.<br><br>
At 08:32 AM 12/6/2018, RandE wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"gmail-m_-5549131086903092040cite">How ab=
out a drill powered pump?=C3=82
=C3=82 <br>
This one is for water but there are other models for other
fluids.<br><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/ECO-FLO-Products-PUP62-Water-Transfer/dp/=
B00LIRSW0Y/ref=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544102898&amp;sr=3D8-4&amp;key=
words=3Ddrill+pump" target=3D"_blank">
https://www.amazon.com/ECO-FLO-Products-PUP62-Water-Transfer/dp/B00LIRSW0Y/=
ref=3Dsr_1_4?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1544102898&amp;sr=3D8-4&amp;keywords=3Ddri=
ll+pump</a>
<br><br>
<br>
Randy</blockquote><div id=3D"gmail-m_-5549131086903092040DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB=
-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
<table style=3D"border-top:1px solid rgb(211,212,222)">
	<tbody><tr>
        <td style=3D"width:55px;padding-top:13px"><a href=3D"https://www.av=
ast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_source=3Dlink&amp;utm_campaign=
=3Dsig-email&amp;utm_content=3Demailclient&amp;utm_term=3Dicon" target=3D"_=
blank"><img alt=3D"" style=3D"width: 46px; height: 29px;" width=3D"46" heig=
ht=3D"29"></a></td>
		<td style=3D"width:470px;padding-top:12px;color:rgb(65,66,78);font-size:1=
3px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:18px">Virus-free. <a=
 href=3D"https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_source=
=3Dlink&amp;utm_campaign=3Dsig-email&amp;utm_content=3Demailclient&amp;utm_=
term=3Dlink" style=3D"color:rgb(68,83,234)" target=3D"_blank">www.avast.com=
</a>
		</td>
	</tr>
</tbody></table><a href=3D"#m_-5549131086903092040_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-=
4E2AA1F9FDF2" width=3D"1" height=3D"1"> </a></div></div>

_______________________________________________<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Shop-talk@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>
et=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk</a><br>
<br>
alk/[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.te=
am.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature">=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>=3D Never offend people with =
style when you=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D<br>=3D can offend with substance --- Sam Bro=
wn=C2=A0 =3D<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</div>

--0000000000003d04ba057c61fa62--

--===============4696813585022575804==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

[email-masked]

--===============4696813585022575804==--