Subject: [Shop-talk] copper tubing plumbing help solution

From: "john niolon" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:04:10 -0500

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After reading all the suggestions you guys offered and discussing the =
situation with my old plumber/pipefitter friend, this is what I came up =
with

Using two or three different sizes of sockets and finally a 1/2=E2=80=9D =
socket extension with a =E2=80=98flare=E2=80=99 from the shaft to the =
head I slowly swaged the tube until
I  could insert a normal 3/4=E2=80=9D section of tube inside it.  I =
sweat soldered those two pieces together. =20

While we were digging the ditch for the sink drain we snagged the =
original line about 3 feet from where I =E2=80=98remembered=E2=80=99 it =
being.  I removed/replaced the damaged piece with standard
3/4 stick tubing and we found that the plumber had used stick tube from =
the house to the garage and then used the coil tubing to make the radius =
bend up thru the floor slab.  I=E2=80=99ll never know why... maybe an =
apprentice's
decision to finish up early one day
.
I did check the o.d. of the other end of the coiled tube and found it to =
be the same as the stick tubing (just like some of you said).   Soooooo =
the consensus that the tube had frozen and expanded enough to prevent =
fittings from going on the end was probably the right answer. =20

after all the drain/ditch work and the repairs I installed a =
3/4=E2=80=9D ball valve and opened the valve on the other end... so far =
(4 hours)... no leaks, no fountains in the garage, no large wet spots in =
the yard
and I=E2=80=99m tired.  I should have done this 25 years ago when I =
built the house and was in my 40=E2=80=99s.

thanks for all the advise, opinion, and discussion... once again this =
fine group has saved my bacon..

later
\john
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<DIV>After reading all the suggestions you guys offered and discussing =
the=20
situation with my old plumber/pipefitter friend, this is what I came up=20
with</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Using two or three different sizes of sockets and finally a =
1/2=E2=80=9D socket=20
extension with a =E2=80=98flare=E2=80=99 from the shaft to the head I =
slowly swaged the tube=20
until</DIV>
<DIV>I&nbsp; could insert a normal 3/4=E2=80=9D section of tube inside =
it.&nbsp; I sweat=20
soldered those two pieces together.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>While we were digging the ditch for the sink drain we snagged the =
original=20
line about 3 feet from where I =E2=80=98remembered=E2=80=99 it =
being.&nbsp; I removed/replaced=20
the damaged piece with standard</DIV>
<DIV>3/4 stick tubing and we found that the plumber had used stick tube =
from the=20
house to the garage and then used the coil tubing to make the radius =
bend up=20
thru the floor slab.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ll never know why... maybe an =
apprentice's</DIV>
<DIV>decision to finish up early one day</DIV>
<DIV>.</DIV>
<DIV>I did check the o.d. of the other end of the coiled tube and found =
it to be=20
the same as the stick tubing (just like some of you said).&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Soooooo=20
the consensus that the tube had frozen and expanded enough to prevent =
fittings=20
from going on the end was probably the right answer.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>after all the drain/ditch work and the repairs I installed a =
3/4=E2=80=9D ball=20
valve and opened the valve on the other end... so far (4 hours)... no =
leaks, no=20
fountains in the garage, no large wet spots in the yard</DIV>
<DIV>and I=E2=80=99m tired.&nbsp; I should have done this 25 years ago =
when I built the=20
house and was in my 40=E2=80=99s.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>thanks for all the advise, opinion, and discussion... once again =
this fine=20
group has saved my bacon..</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>later</DIV>
<DIV>\john</DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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