Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Extension cord length vs. wire gauge

From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 11:53:18 +0000 (UTC)

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 Hey!=C2=A0 There's no shame in using an electric chainsaw.=C2=A0 Only thos=
e with a shaky confidence level in his manhood would feel emasculated using=
 an electric chainsaw.=C2=A0=20

Electric makes a lot of sense for a power tool that is used infrequently.=
=C2=A0 Gas goes bad, carbs foul up, oil goes stale.=C2=A0 All these issues =
go away with electric.
The 10 volt drop I predicted in a previous post will result in a slightly s=
lower chainsaw but you may not even notice.
=20
Dave (I have an electric chainsaw and I use it every couple of years, brief=
ly)

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Hall <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Oct 31, 2018 12:07 am
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Extension cord length vs. wire gauge

Sigh. I have to admit this in a public forum?
It's a power tool. Comparable to a chainsaw. I wanted the gas version, but =
I'll use it maybe twice a year, it's=C2=A0$40=C2=A0vs. $200,=C2=A0and the e=
lectric one is about half the weight.
I never thought I'd be the sort of person to own one of these, but here I a=
m...
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 8:13 PM Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]> wrote:

On Oct 30, 2018 8:57 PM, "Scott Hall" <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

Guys,
I need about 300 get of extension cord. 16 AWG was fine at 100 ft. Can I st=
ring 3 of those together without a problem, or should I go up a size? Draw =
is 4 amps.

What sort of load? Resistive, or ?
What sort of duty cycle?
What sort of duration?
In general, it's probably ok, but still wouldn't hurt to have some details.

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<div> <font size=3D"3">Hey!&nbsp; There's no shame in using an electric cha=
insaw.&nbsp; Only those with a shaky confidence level in his manhood would =
feel emasculated using an electric chainsaw.&nbsp; <br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Electric makes a lot of sense for a power tool that i=
s used infrequently.&nbsp; Gas goes bad, carbs foul up, oil goes stale.&nbs=
p; All these issues go away with electric.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">The 10 volt drop I predicted in a previous post will =
result in a slightly slower chainsaw but you may not even notice.</font><br=
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave <font size=3D"3">(I have an=
 electric chainsaw and I use it every couple of years, briefly)</font></fon=
t><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
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From: Scott Hall &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Oct 31, 2018 12:07 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Extension cord length vs. wire gauge<br>
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<div>Sigh. I have to admit this in a public forum?</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>It's a power tool. Comparable to a chainsaw. I wanted the gas version,=
 but I'll use it maybe twice a year, it's&nbsp;<span class=3D"yiv3660469740=
money">$40</span>&nbsp;vs. <span class=3D"yiv3660469740money">$200,</span>&=
nbsp;and the electric one is about half the weight.</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>I never thought I'd be the sort of person to own one of these, but her=
e I am...</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 8:13 PM Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a rel=
=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank" removedlink__430d46e7-4ba5-4592-aa5e-eafc316354b5__hr=
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<div class=3D"yiv3660469740gmail_quote">On Oct 30, 2018 8:57 PM, "Scott Hal=
l" &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:scot=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" removedlink__430d46e7-4ba5-459=
2-aa5e-eafc316354b5__href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">scott.ha=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D=
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-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>Guys,
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>I need about 300 get of extension cord. 16 AWG was fine at 100 ft. Can=
 I string 3 of those together without a problem, or should I go up a size? =
Draw is 4 amps.</div>
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<div>What sort of load? Resistive, or ?</div>

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<div>What sort of duty cycle?</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>What sort of duration?</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>In general, it's probably ok, but still wouldn't hurt to have some det=
ails.</div>

<div></div>

<div>
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OK, I hate to be 'that guy' but have you looked at this...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBVCQ4W/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

A little pricey, BUT it is an excuse to buy a tool, AND you can use it for 
a lot of other things.  I have this model and I run a firewood farm.  My 
jaw dropped the first time I use this thing.

It is a beast, the batteries do last long.  The kerf is very narrow, so I 
think that is why the performance is so great.

Arguments for...

-It's way safer than a gas powered unit
-You do not need to worry about extension cords (if you are making this 
augment to an SO, also add "Honey, if I accidentally nick the wire with 
the chainsaw, I might get electrocuted.  You don't want that, do you?)*
-Instead of being 'ashamed' of the electric saw, you get to proclaim this 
awesomeness
-the batteries are compatible with other Dewalt items, SO there is 
possible more tool goodness to come.
-Did I mention bragging rights?
-You can even use to it trim wood to use in projects, like if you make 
bowls, carvings or pens on a lathe (I do use this for it.)
-You can use it inside if you need to do demo/home repair
-It's Dewalt, so that is cool

Just some food for thought.

*= I'm a 47 year old bachelor.  I do not know anything about long term 
marriages,so this may not work.  YMMV.

Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">OK, I hate to be 'that guy' but have you
looked at this...</font>
<br>
<br><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBVCQ4W/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1"><font size=2 color=blue face="sans-serif">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBVCQ4W/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1</font></a>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">A little pricey, BUT it is an excuse
to buy a tool, AND you can use it for a lot of other things. &nbsp;I have
this model and I run a firewood farm. &nbsp;My jaw dropped the first time
I use this thing.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">It is a beast, the batteries do last
long. &nbsp;The kerf is very narrow, so I think that is why the performance
is so great.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Arguments for...</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-It's way safer than a gas powered unit</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-You do not need to worry about extension
cords (if you are making this augment to an SO, also add &quot;Honey, if
I accidentally nick the wire with the chainsaw, I might get electrocuted.
&nbsp;You don't want that, do you?)*</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-Instead of being 'ashamed' of the electric
saw, you get to proclaim this awesomeness</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-the batteries are compatible with other
Dewalt items, SO there is possible more tool goodness to come.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-Did I mention bragging rights?</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-You can even use to it trim wood to
use in projects, like if you make bowls, carvings or pens on a lathe (I
do use this for it.)</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-You can use it inside if you need to
do demo/home repair</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-It's Dewalt, so that is cool</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Just some food for thought.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">*= I'm a 47 year old bachelor. &nbsp;I
do not know anything about long term marriages,so this may not work. &nbsp;YMMV.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.<br>
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being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory.&quot; Ralph
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From: John Miller <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 09:18:46 -0700

> -You can use it inside if you need to do demo/home repair

- There might be a career in ice-sculpture carving ahead.

John.

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From: Scott Hall <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:48:50 -0400

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It's a hedge-trimmer.

A goddamned hedge trimmer for the the goddamned hedges.

I went and bought a house with...shrubbery. It's a nice house and I like
it. In a neighborhood. A nice one. With neighbors. Kinda rich ones, with
yard people that keep their yards looking _very_ nice.

I am having more than a little difficulty with the idea that I own a house
with shrubs that need to be maintained. I mean, I saw them when I looked at
the house, butt I guess it didn't register. And as much as anything else, I
don't want the neighbors to think I'm bringing down their neighborhood. I
already bought this as a foreclosure and they're all kind of acting like I
saved that end of the street from an ogre.

This is actually kind of a thing for me. I used to race motorcycles all
weekend. People that "have people" make my ass twitch a little bit. I got a
guy for stuff back home--they have...staff. One guy's watch cost more than
my house, I think. I'm not sure I belong here, no matter how much money I
make. I don't want to own any "hedges". At least not the plant kind.

But I like this house, on this lot, and I'd like to be a good neighbor, and
they're nice folks and probably don't deserve me bringing down their
property values. And how much this is getting to me is ALSO getting to me.

But anyway, I need a f*ck#ng hedge trimmer for these hedges and some sort
of cover plant that I like along the driveway. He called it honeysuckle.

I dislike the idea of even owning a *hedge trimmer* enough that I don't
want to spend any coin on it. I'd buy the gas version and slap an expansion
chamber on it and get my rocks off that way, but (also problematic for me)
the grown up in my head is noting that might be a pointless waste of money.
These things need to be cut twice a year, max, I'd bet...and I don't
envision myself becoming the sort of person that schools sculpts and
topiary.

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion Eric. I'll see if I can get a hedge
trimmer for that setup.

Convince me about battery life. I swore off cordless tools after going
all-in on Milwaukee 18v kit twenty years ago and having the batteries last
a few months each. I have this whole ecosystem of useless tools because I
got tired of spending $60 a pop for new packs. On sale.

How long are those lasting you? How frequently do you charge them? Can they
sit for months and still hold a charge when used again or do I have to baby
them?

Thanks,

Scott

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<div dir=3D"auto">It&#39;s a hedge-trimmer.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"auto">A goddamned hedge trimmer for the the goddamned hedges.</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I went and bought a house wit=
h...shrubbery. It&#39;s a nice house and I like it. In a neighborhood. A ni=
ce one. With neighbors. Kinda rich ones, with yard people that keep their y=
ards looking _very_ nice.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">I am having more than a little difficulty with the idea that I ow=
n a house with shrubs that need to be maintained. I mean, I saw them when I=
 looked at the house, butt I guess it didn&#39;t register. And as much as a=
nything else, I don&#39;t want the neighbors to think I&#39;m bringing down=
 their neighborhood. I already bought this as a foreclosure and they&#39;re=
 all kind of acting like I saved that end of the street from an ogre.</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">This is actually kind of a th=
ing for me. I used to race motorcycles all weekend. People that &quot;have =
people&quot; make my ass twitch a little bit. I got a guy for stuff back ho=
me--they have...staff. One guy&#39;s watch cost more than my house, I think=
. I&#39;m not sure I belong here, no matter how much money I make. I don&#3=
9;t want to own any &quot;hedges&quot;. At least not the plant kind.=C2=A0<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But I like this house, o=
n this lot, and I&#39;d like to be a good neighbor, and they&#39;re nice fo=
lks and probably don&#39;t deserve me bringing down their property values. =
And how much this is getting to me is ALSO getting to me.</div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But anyway, I need a f*ck#ng hedge trimme=
r for these hedges and some sort of cover plant that I like along the drive=
way. He called it honeysuckle.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">I dislike the idea of even owning a *hedge trimmer* enough that I do=
n&#39;t want to spend any coin on it. I&#39;d buy the gas version and slap =
an expansion chamber on it and get my rocks off that way, but (also problem=
atic for me) the grown up in my head is noting that might be a pointless wa=
ste of money. These things need to be cut twice a year, max, I&#39;d bet...=
and I don&#39;t envision myself becoming the sort of person that schools sc=
ulpts and topiary.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Anywa=
y, thanks for the suggestion Eric. I&#39;ll see if I can get a hedge trimme=
r for that setup.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Convin=
ce me about battery life. I swore off cordless tools after going all-in on =
Milwaukee 18v kit twenty years ago and having the batteries last a few mont=
hs each. I have this whole ecosystem of useless tools because I got tired o=
f spending <span class=3D"money">$60</span>=C2=A0a pop for new packs. On sa=
le.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">How long are those l=
asting you? How frequently do you charge them? Can they sit for months and =
still hold a charge when used again or do I have to baby them?</div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks,=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Scott</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 12:11 PM  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:er=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">OK, I hate to be &#39;that =
guy&#39; but have you
looked at this...</font>
<br>
<br><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBVCQ4W/ref=3Doh_aui_se=
arch_detailpage?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
><font size=3D"2" color=3D"blue" face=3D"sans-serif">https://www.amazon.com=
/gp/product/B01NBVCQ4W/ref=3Doh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1=
</font></a>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">A little pricey, BUT it is an excu=
se
to buy a tool, AND you can use it for a lot of other things.=C2=A0 I have
this model and I run a firewood farm.=C2=A0 My jaw dropped the first time
I use this thing.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">It is a beast, the batteries do la=
st
long.=C2=A0 The kerf is very narrow, so I think that is why the performance
is so great.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Arguments for...</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-It&#39;s way safer than a gas pow=
ered unit</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-You do not need to worry about ex=
tension
cords (if you are making this augment to an SO, also add &quot;Honey, if
I accidentally nick the wire with the chainsaw, I might get electrocuted.
=C2=A0You don&#39;t want that, do you?)*</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-Instead of being &#39;ashamed&#39=
; of the electric
saw, you get to proclaim this awesomeness</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-the batteries are compatible with=
 other
Dewalt items, SO there is possible more tool goodness to come.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-Did I mention bragging rights?</f=
ont>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-You can even use to it trim wood =
to
use in projects, like if you make bowls, carvings or pens on a lathe (I
do use this for it.)</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-You can use it inside if you need=
 to
do demo/home repair</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-It&#39;s Dewalt, so that is cool<=
/font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Just some food for thought.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">*=3D I&#39;m a 47 year old bachelo=
r.=C2=A0 I
do not know anything about long term marriages,so this may not work.=C2=A0 =
YMMV.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:49:42 -0700

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I think that a battery-powered trimmer would not cost much more than all tha=
t cord. I have an E-Go trimmer from Home Depot, and I=E2=80=99m worn out bef=
ore it even slows down.=20

=F0=9F=8D=84 Statistically, six out of seven dwarfs are not Happy.=20

> On Oct 31, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Scott Hall <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
> I went and bought a house with...shrubbery. It's a nice house and I like i=
t. In a neighborhood. A nice one. With neighbors. Kinda rich ones, with yard=
 people that keep their yards looking _very_ nice.=20
>=20
> I am having more than a little difficulty with the idea that I own a house=
 with shrubs that need to be maintained. I mean, I saw them when I looked at=
 the house, butt I guess it didn't register. And as much as anything else, I=
 don't want the neighbors to think I'm bringing down their neighborhood. I a=
lready bought this as a foreclosure and they're all kind of acting like I sa=
ved that end of the street from an ogre.
>=20
> This is actually kind of a thing for me. I used to race motorcycles all we=
ekend. People that "have people" make my ass twitch a little bit. I got a gu=
y for stuff back home--they have...staff. One guy's watch cost more than my h=
ouse, I think. I'm not sure I belong here, no matter how much money I make. I=
 don't want to own any "hedges". At least not the plant kind.=20
>=20
> But I like this house, on this lot, and I'd like to be a good neighbor, an=
d they're nice folks and probably don't deserve me bringing down their prope=
rty values. And how much this is getting to me is ALSO getting to me.
>=20
> But anyway, I need a f*ck#ng hedge trimmer for these hedges and some sort o=
f cover plant that I like along the driveway. He called it honeysuckle.
>=20
> I dislike the idea of even owning a *hedge trimmer* enough that I don't wa=
nt to spend any coin on it. I'd buy the gas version and slap an expansion ch=
amber on it and get my rocks off that way, but (also problematic for me) the=
 grown up in my head is noting that might be a pointless waste of money. The=
se things need to be cut twice a year, max, I'd bet...and I don't envision m=
yself becoming the sort of person that schools sculpts and topiary.
>=20
> Anyway, thanks for the suggestion Eric. I'll see if I can get a hedge trim=
mer for that setup.
>=20
> Convince me about battery life. I swore off cordless tools after going all=
-in on Milwaukee 18v kit twenty years ago and having the batteries last a fe=
w months each. I have this whole ecosystem of useless tools because I got ti=
red of spending $60 a pop for new packs. On sale.
>=20
> How long are those lasting you? How frequently do you charge them? Can the=
y sit for months and still hold a charge when used again or do I have to bab=
y them?
> Thanks,=20
>> OK, I hate to be 'that guy' but have you looked at this...=20
>>=20
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBVCQ4W/ref=3Doh_aui_search_detailpa=
ge?ie=3DUTF8&psc=3D1=20
>>=20
>> A little pricey, BUT it is an excuse to buy a tool, AND you can use it fo=
r a lot of other things.  I have this model and I run a firewood farm.  My j=
aw dropped the first time I use this thing.=20
>>=20
>> It is a beast, the batteries do last long.  The kerf is very narrow, so I=
 think that is why the performance is so great.=20
>>=20
>> Arguments for...=20
>>=20
>> -It's way safer than a gas powered unit=20
>> -You do not need to worry about extension cords (if you are making this a=
ugment to an SO, also add "Honey, if I accidentally nick the wire with the c=
hainsaw, I might get electrocuted.  You don't want that, do you?)*=20
>> -Instead of being 'ashamed' of the electric saw, you get to proclaim this=
 awesomeness=20
>> -the batteries are compatible with other Dewalt items, SO there is possib=
le more tool goodness to come.=20
>> -Did I mention bragging rights?=20
>> -You can even use to it trim wood to use in projects, like if you make bo=
wls, carvings or pens on a lathe (I do use this for it.)=20
>> -You can use it inside if you need to do demo/home repair=20
>> -It's Dewalt, so that is cool=20
>>=20
>> Just some food for thought.=20
>>=20
>> *=3D I'm a 47 year old bachelor.  I do not know anything about long term m=
arriages,so this may not work.  YMMV.=20
>> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational=
 being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Wald=
o Emerson _______________________________________________
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I think that a battery-powered trimmer woul=
d not cost much more than all that cord. I have an E-Go trimmer from Home De=
pot, and I=E2=80=99m worn out before it even slows down.&nbsp;<br><br><div i=
d=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div>=F0=9F=8D=
=84 Statistically, six out of seven dwarfs are not Happy.&nbsp;</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br>On Oct 31, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Scott Hall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto">It=
's a hedge-trimmer.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">A goddamned=
 hedge trimmer for the the goddamned hedges.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">I went and bought a house with...shrubbery. It's a nice h=
ouse and I like it. In a neighborhood. A nice one. With neighbors. Kinda ric=
h ones, with yard people that keep their yards looking _very_ nice.&nbsp;</d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I am having more than a lit=
tle difficulty with the idea that I own a house with shrubs that need to be m=
aintained. I mean, I saw them when I looked at the house, butt I guess it di=
dn't register. And as much as anything else, I don't want the neighbors to t=
hink I'm bringing down their neighborhood. I already bought this as a forecl=
osure and they're all kind of acting like I saved that end of the street fro=
m an ogre.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">This is actual=
ly kind of a thing for me. I used to race motorcycles all weekend. People th=
at "have people" make my ass twitch a little bit. I got a guy for stuff back=
 home--they have...staff. One guy's watch cost more than my house, I think. I=
'm not sure I belong here, no matter how much money I make. I don't want to o=
wn any "hedges". At least not the plant kind.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But I like this house, on this lot, and I'd like t=
o be a good neighbor, and they're nice folks and probably don't deserve me b=
ringing down their property values. And how much this is getting to me is AL=
SO getting to me.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">But any=
way, I need a f*ck#ng hedge trimmer for these hedges and some sort of cover p=
lant that I like along the driveway. He called it honeysuckle.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I dislike the idea of even owning a *h=
edge trimmer* enough that I don't want to spend any coin on it. I'd buy the g=
as version and slap an expansion chamber on it and get my rocks off that way=
, but (also problematic for me) the grown up in my head is noting that might=
 be a pointless waste of money. These things need to be cut twice a year, ma=
x, I'd bet...and I don't envision myself becoming the sort of person that sc=
hools sculpts and topiary.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto=
">Anyway, thanks for the suggestion Eric. I'll see if I can get a hedge trim=
mer for that setup.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Convi=
nce me about battery life. I swore off cordless tools after going all-in on M=
ilwaukee 18v kit twenty years ago and having the batteries last a few months=
 each. I have this whole ecosystem of useless tools because I got tired of s=
pending <span class=3D"money">$60</span>&nbsp;a pop for new packs. On sale.<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">How long are those lastin=
g you? How frequently do you charge them? Can they sit for months and still h=
old a charge when used again or do I have to baby them?</div><div dir=3D"aut=
o"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks,&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">Scott</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 12:11 PM  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek=
.com">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><f=
ont size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">OK, I hate to be 'that guy' but have you
looked at this...</font>
<br>
<br><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NBVCQ4W/ref=3Doh_aui_sea=
rch_detailpage?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"><=
font size=3D"2" color=3D"blue" face=3D"sans-serif">https://www.amazon.com/gp=
/product/B01NBVCQ4W/ref=3Doh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1</fo=
nt></a>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">A little pricey, BUT it is an excus=
e
to buy a tool, AND you can use it for a lot of other things.&nbsp; I have
this model and I run a firewood farm.&nbsp; My jaw dropped the first time
I use this thing.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">It is a beast, the batteries do las=
t
long.&nbsp; The kerf is very narrow, so I think that is why the performance
is so great.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Arguments for...</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-It's way safer than a gas powered u=
nit</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-You do not need to worry about ext=
ension
cords (if you are making this augment to an SO, also add "Honey, if
I accidentally nick the wire with the chainsaw, I might get electrocuted.
&nbsp;You don't want that, do you?)*</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-Instead of being 'ashamed' of the e=
lectric
saw, you get to proclaim this awesomeness</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-the batteries are compatible with o=
ther
Dewalt items, SO there is possible more tool goodness to come.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-Did I mention bragging rights?</fo=
nt>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-You can even use to it trim wood t=
o
use in projects, like if you make bowls, carvings or pens on a lathe (I
do use this for it.)</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-You can use it inside if you need t=
o
do demo/home repair</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">-It's Dewalt, so that is cool</font=
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Just some food for thought.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">*=3D I'm a 47 year old bachelor.&nb=
sp; I
do not know anything about long term marriages,so this may not work.&nbsp; Y=
MMV.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
<br>
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