Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Air Impact Wrenches - how much torque?

From: Scott Hall <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 15:31:52 -0500

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I've got the IR2131. I'm sure it's been superceded by now, but it's got
plenty of grunt and has never broken anything.

If I had to replace it I'd get another one.

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<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ve got the IR2131. I&#39;m sure it&#39;s been super=
ceded by now, but it&#39;s got plenty of grunt and has never broken anythin=
g.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">If I had=
 to replace it I&#39;d get another one.</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
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From: old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 13:45:23 -0700

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HI Brian,

I know it is more that you want to spend, but I have a IR Titanium--very
light and very powerful:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_dp_s_web_0?ie=UTF8&search-alias=aps&field-keywords=Ingersoll+Rand

You can dial it back so that it will not over-power anything.

Your compressor will be fine as you will be running off the tank, not the
pump, unless you run the tank pressure to below 80 psi, or whatever you set
your regulator to.

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 12:46 PM Brian Kemp <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I'm shopping for a new air impact wrench and wondered how much torque I
> might need.  I'm replacing a Harbor Freight one that claims 250 ft-lbs,
> but can't break hand torqued wheel lugs.  If I need to undo a TR6 crank
> bolt again, I'll borrow a bigger impact wrench or just use a breaker bar
> like last time.
>
> The primary use will be wheel lugs.  Occasional use will be brake jobs
> and related car work.
>
> Per the sticker on the compressor specs are 5.5 SCFM at 90psi, 5HP, 26
> gal, 135psi max.  This is Husky Pro about 15 years old, so I recognize
> the HP rating is likely optimistic.  The motor requirement is 15A @
> 120V, which would indicate a more realistic HP rating in the 2HP range.
>
> I'm not after continuous duty.  At most, it would be 5 wheel lugs then a
> break.
>
> I'm thinking the 1000 ft-lb models are overkill and could potentially do
> damage snapping an old TR6 or GT6 bolt.  I'd rather have the tool not
> take off the nut/bolt than snap it.
>
> The new Husky ones at Home Depot look nice, but I don't see any feedback
> on the 800 ft-lb model and only one on the 650 ft-lb model.  If I do go
> bigger, Lowes has a nice 1000 ft-lb model with a 95% recommended rating.
>
> Any feedback is appreciated.  Since this isn't really necessary, I'm
> looking at about the $100 range.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">HI Brian,<div><br></div><div>I know it is=
 more that you want to spend, but I have a IR Titanium--very light and very=
 powerful:</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=3Dbl_dp_s_web_=
0?ie=3DUTF8&amp;search-alias=3Daps&amp;field-keywords=3DIngersoll+Rand">htt=
ps://www.amazon.com/s/ref=3Dbl_dp_s_web_0?ie=3DUTF8&amp;search-alias=3Daps&=
amp;field-keywords=3DIngersoll+Rand</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>You ca=
n dial it back so that it will not over-power anything.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Your compressor will be fine as you will be running off the tank, not=
 the pump, unless you run the tank pressure to below 80 psi, or whatever yo=
u set your regulator to.</div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 12:46 PM Brian Kemp &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I&#39;m shopping for a new air impac=
t wrench and wondered how much torque I <br>
might need.=C2=A0 I&#39;m replacing a Harbor Freight one that claims 250 ft=
-lbs, <br>
but can&#39;t break hand torqued wheel lugs.=C2=A0 If I need to undo a TR6 =
crank <br>
bolt again, I&#39;ll borrow a bigger impact wrench or just use a breaker ba=
r <br>
like last time.<br>
<br>
The primary use will be wheel lugs.=C2=A0 Occasional use will be brake jobs=
 <br>
and related car work.<br>
<br>
Per the sticker on the compressor specs are 5.5 SCFM at 90psi, 5HP, 26 <br>
gal, 135psi max.=C2=A0 This is Husky Pro about 15 years old, so I recognize=
 <br>
the HP rating is likely optimistic.=C2=A0 The motor requirement is 15A @ <b=
r>
120V, which would indicate a more realistic HP rating in the 2HP range.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not after continuous duty.=C2=A0 At most, it would be 5 wheel lugs =
then a <br>
break.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m thinking the 1000 ft-lb models are overkill and could potentially d=
o <br>
damage snapping an old TR6 or GT6 bolt.=C2=A0 I&#39;d rather have the tool =
not <br>
take off the nut/bolt than snap it.<br>
<br>
The new Husky ones at Home Depot look nice, but I don&#39;t see any feedbac=
k <br>
on the 800 ft-lb model and only one on the 650 ft-lb model.=C2=A0 If I do g=
o <br>
bigger, Lowes has a nice 1000 ft-lb model with a 95% recommended rating.<br=
<br>
Any feedback is appreciated.=C2=A0 Since this isn&#39;t really necessary, I=
&#39;m <br>
looking at about the $100 range.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
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From: old dirtbeard <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 13:48:43 -0700

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Hi Scott,

I have the same model and am 100% happy with it. Like you, I would replace
it with the same or updated model. The new model designations are cheaper
and more powerful, so I assume they are Chinese-build...

>> looking at about the $100 range.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Scott,=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>I have the same model a=
nd am 100% happy with it. Like you, I would replace it with the same or upd=
ated model. The new model designations are cheaper and more powerful, so I =
assume they are Chinese-build...</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 1:45 PM old dirtbeard &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">HI Brian,=
<div><br></div><div>I know it is more that you want to spend, but I have a =
IR Titanium--very light and very powerful:</div><div><a href=3D"https://www=
.amazon.com/s/ref=3Dbl_dp_s_web_0?ie=3DUTF8&amp;search-alias=3Daps&amp;fiel=
d-keywords=3DIngersoll+Rand" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=
=3Dbl_dp_s_web_0?ie=3DUTF8&amp;search-alias=3Daps&amp;field-keywords=3DInge=
rsoll+Rand</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>You can dial it back so that it=
 will not over-power anything.</div><div><br></div><div>Your compressor wil=
l be fine as you will be running off the tank, not the pump, unless you run=
 the tank pressure to below 80 psi, or whatever you set your regulator to.<=
/div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr">On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 12:46 PM Brian Kemp &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bk13@=
earthlink.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I&#39;m shopping for a new air impact wrenc=
h and wondered how much torque I <br>
<br>

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From: Ian McFetridge <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 17:32:34 -0400

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Second the IR gun, mine is about 10 years old and only with some periodic
oil continues to be an excellent gun.  I like the dial with four levels of
power, which I believe is a needle valve that adjusts the pressure to the
gun.  On sensitive parts I=E2=80=99ll put it on the low setting and then di=
al it up
as needed to break loose fasteners (to your point about breaking things).
It=E2=80=99s a lot easier than lowering the line pressure, although that wo=
uld work
too.

BEst,
Ian

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 5:16 PM rustymetal <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I swear by Air Cat. I bought a 1/2" drive 500 lbs reverse torque recently=
.
> Little to no vibration or kick back.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Brian Kemp <[email-masked]>
> Date: 10/7/18 12:29 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Shop Talk <[email-masked]>
> Subject: [Shop-talk] Air Impact Wrenches - how much torque?
>
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">Second the IR gun, mine is about 10 years old and on=
ly with some periodic oil continues to be an excellent gun.=C2=A0 I like th=
e dial with four levels of power, which I believe is a needle valve that ad=
justs the pressure to the gun.=C2=A0 On sensitive parts I=E2=80=99ll put it=
 on the low setting and then dial it up as needed to break loose fasteners =
(to your point about breaking things).=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s a lot easier than=
 lowering the line pressure, although that would work too.</div></div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">BEst,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Ian</=
div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Oct 7, 201=
8 at 5:16 PM rustymetal &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">rus=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div><div>I swear by Air Cat. I bought a 1/2&quot; drive 500 lbs reverse =
torque recently. Little to no vibration or kick back.=C2=A0</div><div><br><=
/div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id=3D"m_-5428447141818330929compose=
r_signature"><div style=3D"font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir=3D"auto">Sent f=
rom my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&amp;T LTE smartphone</div></div></div><div><d=
iv><br></div><div style=3D"font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Orig=
inal message --------</div><div>From: Brian Kemp &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bk13=
@earthlink.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; </div><div>Dat=
e: 10/7/18  12:29 PM  (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: Shop Talk &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; </div><div>Subject: [Shop-talk] Air Impact Wrenches - how much torq=
ue? </div><div><br></div></div>I&#39;m shopping for a new air impact wrench=
 and wondered how much torque I <br>might need.=C2=A0 I&#39;m replacing a H=
arbor Freight one that claims 250 ft-lbs, <br>but can&#39;t break hand torq=
ued wheel lugs.=C2=A0 If I need to undo a TR6 crank <br>bolt again, I&#39;l=
l borrow a bigger impact wrench or just use a breaker bar <br>like last tim=
e.<br><br>The primary use will be wheel lugs.=C2=A0 Occasional use will be =
brake jobs <br>and related car work.<br><br>Per the sticker on the compress=
or specs are 5.5 SCFM at 90psi, 5HP, 26 <br>gal, 135psi max.=C2=A0 This is =
Husky Pro about 15 years old, so I recognize <br>the HP rating is likely op=
timistic.=C2=A0 The motor requirement is 15A @ <br>120V, which would indica=
te a more realistic HP rating in the 2HP range.<br><br>I&#39;m not after co=
ntinuous duty.=C2=A0 At most, it would be 5 wheel lugs then a <br>break.<br=
><br>I&#39;m thinking the 1000 ft-lb models are overkill and could potentia=
lly do <br>damage snapping an old TR6 or GT6 bolt.=C2=A0 I&#39;d rather hav=
e the tool not <br>take off the nut/bolt than snap it.<br><br>The new Husky=
 ones at Home Depot look nice, but I don&#39;t see any feedback <br>on the =
800 ft-lb model and only one on the 650 ft-lb model.=C2=A0 If I do go <br>b=
igger, Lowes has a nice 1000 ft-lb model with a 95% recommended rating.<br>=
<br>Any feedback is appreciated.=C2=A0 Since this isn&#39;t really necessar=
y, I&#39;m <br>looking at about the $100 range.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Brian=
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From: Mark Watson <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 11:15:50 +0200 (CEST)

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Though I don't own one, my favorite YouTube channel is South Main Auto Repa=
ir, and Eric O (the owner and mechanic) swears by his Astro Nano that's mor=
e in your price range: https://www.amazon.com/Astro-1822-Nano-Impact-Wrench=
/dp/B00VTQIURE - used it on camera lots of times.  He also swears by the HF=
 Earthquake and he seems quite surprised  by that.  He's been using one sin=
ce Thanksgiving last year and it's still going strong.

Mark

>     Second the IR gun, mine is about 10 years old and only with some peri=
odic oil continues to be an excellent gun.  I like the dial with four level=
s of power, which I believe is a needle valve that adjusts the pressure to =
the gun.  On sensitive parts I=E2=80=99ll put it on the low setting and the=
n dial it up as needed to break loose fasteners (to your point about breaki=
ng things).  It=E2=80=99s a lot easier than lowering the line pressure, alt=
hough that would work too.
>=20
>     BEst,
>     Ian
>=20
>     On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 5:16 PM rustymetal < [email-masked] =
mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
>=20
>         > >         I swear by Air Cat. I bought a 1/2" drive 500 lbs rev=
erse torque recently. Little to no vibration or kick back.=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >         From: Brian Kemp < [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]=
 >
> >         To: Shop Talk < [email-masked] mailto:shop-talk@Autox=
.Team.Net >
> >=20
> >         I'm shopping for a new air impact wrench and wondered how much =
torque I
> >         might need.  I'm replacing a Harbor Freight one that claims 250=
 ft-lbs,
> >         but can't break hand torqued wheel lugs.  If I need to undo a T=
R6 crank
> >         bolt again, I'll borrow a bigger impact wrench or just use a br=
eaker bar
> >         like last time.
> >=20
> >         The primary use will be wheel lugs.  Occasional use will be bra=
ke jobs
> >         and related car work.
> >=20
> >         <snip>
> >         Any feedback is appreciated.  Since this isn't really necessary=
, I'm
> >=20
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> >=20
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YouTube channel is&#160;<span class=3D"style-scope ytd-shelf-renderer">Sout=
h Main Auto Repair,&#160;</span>and Eric O (the owner and mechanic) swears =
by his Astro Nano that&#39;s more in your price range:&#160;<a href=3D"http=
s://www.amazon.com/Astro-1822-Nano-Impact-Wrench/dp/B00VTQIURE">https://www=
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v dir=3D"auto">Second the IR gun, mine is about 10 years old and only with =
some periodic oil continues to be an excellent gun.&#160; I like the dial w=
ith four levels of power, which I believe is a needle valve that adjusts th=
e pressure to the gun.&#160; On sensitive parts I&#8217;ll put it on the lo=
w setting and then dial it up as needed to break loose fasteners (to your p=
oint about breaking things).&#160; It&#8217;s a lot easier than lowering th=
e line pressure, although that would work too.</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">BEst,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Ian</div><div><br=
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018 at 5:16 PM rustymetal &#60; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&#62; wrote: <br></div><blockquote><div><div>I=
 swear by Air Cat. I bought a 1/2&#34; drive 500 lbs reverse torque recentl=
y. Little to no vibration or kick back.&#160;</div><div><br></div><div><br>=
</div><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-size: 85%; color: #575757;" dir=3D"=
auto">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&#38;T LTE smartphone</div></div><=
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nk.net</a>&#62;</div><div>Date: 10/7/18 12:29 PM (GMT-08:00)</div><div>To: =
Shop Talk &#60; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&#62;</div><div>Subject: [S=
hop-talk] Air Impact Wrenches - how much torque?</div><div><br></div></div>=
I&#39;m shopping for a new air impact wrench and wondered how much torque I=
 <br>might need.&#160; I&#39;m replacing a Harbor Freight one that claims 2=
50 ft-lbs, <br>but can&#39;t break hand torqued wheel lugs.&#160; If I need=
 to undo a TR6 crank <br>bolt again, I&#39;ll borrow a bigger impact wrench=
 or just use a breaker bar <br>like last time. <br> <br>The primary use wil=
l be wheel lugs.&#160; Occasional use will be brake jobs <br>and related ca=
r work. <br> <br>&#60;snip&#62;<br>Any feedback is appreciated.&#160; Since=
 this isn&#39;t really necessary, I&#39;m <br>looking at about the $100 ran=
ge. <br> <br>Thanks, <br> <br>Brian <br>___________________________________=
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