Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire size/capability question

From: "John P. New" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:42:41 -0400

Peter,

This is a fantastic tire and wheel size calculator/comparator:
https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/

Just plug in the values from the two tire sizes and it will give you dimensions and recommendations for the second set of tires. According to the site, the second set of tires will be almost 1" wider and about 1" greater in diameter than the tires on the car; there is also a warning that the larger tires may affect handling.

Whatever you do, look at the date codes on whichever tires you put on the truck to make sure that they're not too old to safely use.

John P. New
London, Ontario, Canada

On Monday, October 8, 2018 4:02:23 PM EDT Peter Murray wrote:
> In cleaning out the garage/shop of my recently-deceased father-in-law, i
> ran across two pairs of P215/70/R15 tires. They're bagged and unmounted,
> and appear to be in similar and reasonable shape (about 50% tread
> remaining).
> 
> He also had a 1969 Ford F100 pickup that has been sitting for a while. The
> tires are pretty beat and one will not hold air. They're 235/75/R15. I got
> it running while I was out there last week, but with the one rear flat, it
> was tough to evaluate it much. Electrically it appeared solid. I drove it
> about 100 feet, so the clutch, first and reverse all worked fine.
> 
> I realize they're not quite the same size, but I wonder if I couldn't
> replace the tires currently on the truck with the four unmounted tires. I
> realize they're slightly different in width and circumference, but they're
> pretty doggone close. This isn't going to be used as a hauler. More likely
> my mother-in-law will sell it (sigh), and I figure that having four decent
> and inflated tires gives a better negotiating position than requiring a
> buyer to tow his purchase away...
> 
> Aside from aesthetics and (slightly) incorrect speedo/odometer, what Bad
> things could potentially come from putting these tires on the truck?
> 
> Yes, i would probably try to keep it, were it not 2000 miles away (its in
> western Colorado, I'm in northern Virginia) and my 3 young children and my
> self-employment keeping me busy enough.
> 
> Thanks for all your sage wisdom!
> 
> -Peter
> 

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I can't see a downside to installing those tires on a vehicle that is going=
 to be sold anyway. I would do it.

Brian
Nampa, ID
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From: Shop-talk <[email-masked]> on behalf of Peter Murra=
y <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 2:02 PM
To: Shop-Talk List
Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire size/capability question

In cleaning out the garage/shop of my recently-deceased father-in-law, i ra=
n across two pairs of P215/70/R15 tires. They're bagged and unmounted, and =
appear to be in similar and reasonable shape (about 50% tread remaining).

He also had a 1969 Ford F100 pickup that has been sitting for a while. The =
tires are pretty beat and one will not hold air. They're 235/75/R15. I got =
it running while I was out there last week, but with the one rear flat, it =
was tough to evaluate it much. Electrically it appeared solid. I drove it a=
bout 100 feet, so the clutch, first and reverse all worked fine.

I realize they're not quite the same size, but I wonder if I couldn't repla=
ce the tires currently on the truck with the four unmounted tires. I realiz=
e they're slightly different in width and circumference, but they're pretty=
 doggone close. This isn't going to be used as a hauler. More likely my mot=
her-in-law will sell it (sigh), and I figure that having four decent and in=
flated tires gives a better negotiating position than requiring a buyer to =
tow his purchase away...

Aside from aesthetics and (slightly) incorrect speedo/odometer, what Bad th=
ings could potentially come from putting these tires on the truck?

Yes, i would probably try to keep it, were it not 2000 miles away (its in w=
estern Colorado, I'm in northern Virginia) and my 3 young children and my s=
elf-employment keeping me busy enough.

-Peter

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<div>In cleaning out the garage/shop of my recently-deceased father-in-law,=
 i ran across two pairs of P215/70/R15 tires. They're bagged and unmounted,=
 and appear to be in similar and reasonable shape (about 50% tread remainin=
g).</div>
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He also had a 1969 Ford F100 pickup that has been sitting for a while. The =
tires are pretty beat and one will not hold air. They're 235/75/R15. I got =
it running while I was out there last week, but with the one rear flat, it =
was tough to evaluate it much. Electrically
 it appeared solid. I drove it about 100 feet, so the clutch, first and rev=
erse all worked fine.
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<div>I realize they're not quite the same size, but I wonder if I couldn't =
replace the tires currently on the truck with the four unmounted tires. I r=
ealize they're slightly different in width and circumference, but they're p=
retty doggone close. This isn't
 going to be used as a hauler. More likely my mother-in-law will sell it (s=
igh), and I figure that having four decent and inflated tires gives a bette=
r negotiating position than requiring a buyer to tow his purchase away...</=
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<div>Aside from aesthetics and (slightly) incorrect speedo/odometer, what B=
ad things could potentially come from putting these tires on the truck?</di=
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<div>Yes, i would probably try to keep it, were it not 2000 miles away (its=
 in western Colorado, I'm in northern Virginia) and my 3 young children and=
 my self-employment keeping me busy enough.</div>
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<div>Thanks for all your sage wisdom!</div>
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<div>-Peter</div>
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 18:35:28 -0400

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 4:33 PM Peter Murray <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Aside from aesthetics and (slightly) incorrect speedo/odometer, what Bad things could potentially come from putting these tires on the truck?

If they are more than six years old, you could mount them, but warn
the buyer they are not for long distance, high-speed driving.

If they are more than ten years old, get a cheap set of rim protectors
instead.  Nobody needs hte liability...

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

[email-masked]

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From: Jim Franklin <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2018 22:37:54 -0400

The only downside I can think of is that the new tires might hit the fenders, either immediately or while turning the steering wheel. Still, someone buying this should expect issues like this and just needs to be told.

jim

> On Oct 8, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Peter Murray <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> In cleaning out the garage/shop of my recently-deceased father-in-law, i ran across two pairs of P215/70/R15 tires. They're bagged and unmounted, and appear to be in similar and reasonable shape (about 50% tread remaining).
> 
> He also had a 1969 Ford F100 pickup that has been sitting for a while. The tires are pretty beat and one will not hold air. They're 235/75/R15. I got it running while I was out there last week, but with the one rear flat, it was tough to evaluate it much. Electrically it appeared solid. I drove it about 100 feet, so the clutch, first and reverse all worked fine.
> 
> I realize they're not quite the same size, but I wonder if I couldn't replace the tires currently on the truck with the four unmounted tires. I realize they're slightly different in width and circumference, but they're pretty doggone close. This isn't going to be used as a hauler. More likely my mother-in-law will sell it (sigh), and I figure that having four decent and inflated tires gives a better negotiating position than requiring a buyer to tow his purchase away...
> 
> Yes, i would probably try to keep it, were it not 2000 miles away (its in western Colorado, I'm in northern Virginia) and my 3 young children and my self-employment keeping me busy enough.
> 
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From: Peter Murray <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 09:42:34 -0400

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All-

The passenger tires with which I'm considering replacing the current truck
tires are smaller in every dimension, though not by a great deal, so I
don't think they'd rub. My main objective is to safely get this truck sold
for maximum value for my mother-in-law.

I'll absolutely make clear to whoever buys it that the tires are not for
long-term use, that they're not the right size, and that part of their
refurbishment of the truck (besides lube/oil/filter, coolant flush, a
thorough brake check and a good cleaning of the carb) should be replacement
of the tires with something more appropriate. I would make a terrible used
car salesman, as I won't hide known flaws.

If any of you are interested, let me know! It is practically rust-free,
having lived its entire existence in the arid Southwest.

Thanks very much for your thoughts.  I really appreciate the sage (and
often hard-fought) wisdom shared with me via this list!

-Peter

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:44 PM Jim Franklin <[email-masked]> wrote:

> The only downside I can think of is that the new tires might hit the
> fenders, either immediately or while turning the steering wheel. Still,
> someone buying this should expect issues like this and just needs to be
> told.
>
> jim
>
> > He also had a 1969 Ford F100 pickup that has been sitting for a while.
> The tires are pretty beat and one will not hold air. They're 235/75/R15. I
> got it running while I was out there last week, but with the one rear flat,
> it was tough to evaluate it much. Electrically it appeared solid. I drove
> it about 100 feet, so the clutch, first and reverse all worked fine.
> >
> > Yes, i would probably try to keep it, were it not 2000 miles away (its
> in western Colorado, I'm in northern Virginia) and my 3 young children and
> my self-employment keeping me busy enough.
> >
> > Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
> >
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">All-<div><br></div><div>The passenger tires with which I&#=
39;m considering replacing the current truck tires are smaller in every dim=
ension, though not by a great deal, so I don&#39;t think they&#39;d rub. My=
 main objective is to safely get this truck sold for maximum value for my m=
other-in-law.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ll absolutely make clear=
 to whoever buys it that the tires are not for long-term use, that they&#39=
;re not the right size, and that part of their refurbishment of the truck (=
besides lube/oil/filter, coolant flush, a thorough brake check and a good c=
leaning of the carb) should be replacement of the tires with something more=
 appropriate. I would make a terrible used car salesman, as I won&#39;t hid=
e known flaws.</div><div><br></div><div>If any of you are interested, let m=
e know! It is practically rust-free, having lived its entire existence in t=
he arid Southwest.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks very much for your=
 thoughts.=C2=A0=C2=A0I really appreciate the sage (and often hard-fought) =
wisdom shared with me via this list!</div><div><br></div><div>-Peter=C2=A0<=
br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:44 PM Jim Franklin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:james=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">The only downside I can think of is that the new tire=
s might hit the fenders, either immediately or while turning the steering w=
heel. Still, someone buying this should expect issues like this and just ne=
eds to be told.<br>
<br>
jim<br>
<br>
&gt; On Oct 8, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Peter Murray &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:peterwm=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
&gt; <br>
&gt; In cleaning out the garage/shop of my recently-deceased father-in-law,=
 i ran across two pairs of P215/70/R15 tires. They&#39;re bagged and unmoun=
ted, and appear to be in similar and reasonable shape (about 50% tread rema=
ining).<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; He also had a 1969 Ford F100 pickup that has been sitting for a while.=
 The tires are pretty beat and one will not hold air. They&#39;re 235/75/R1=
5. I got it running while I was out there last week, but with the one rear =
flat, it was tough to evaluate it much. Electrically it appeared solid. I d=
rove it about 100 feet, so the clutch, first and reverse all worked fine.<b=
r>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I realize they&#39;re not quite the same size, but I wonder if I could=
n&#39;t replace the tires currently on the truck with the four unmounted ti=
res. I realize they&#39;re slightly different in width and circumference, b=
ut they&#39;re pretty doggone close. This isn&#39;t going to be used as a h=
auler. More likely my mother-in-law will sell it (sigh), and I figure that =
having four decent and inflated tires gives a better negotiating position t=
han requiring a buyer to tow his purchase away...<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Aside from aesthetics and (slightly) incorrect speedo/odometer, what B=
ad things could potentially come from putting these tires on the truck?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Yes, i would probably try to keep it, were it not 2000 miles away (its=
 in western Colorado, I&#39;m in northern Virginia) and my 3 young children=
 and my self-employment keeping me busy enough.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks for all your sage wisdom!<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -Peter<br>
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From: "Al Fuller" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 11:49:17 -0400

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Peter =E2=80=93 any pictures?  Price?

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Al Fuller

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'65 BJ-8

'85 Rx-7

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From: Shop-talk [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Peter Murray
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 9:43 AM
To: Shop-Talk List <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire size/capability question

=20

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=20

The passenger tires with which I'm considering replacing the current =
truck tires are smaller in every dimension, though not by a great deal, =
so I don't think they'd rub. My main objective is to safely get this =
truck sold for maximum value for my mother-in-law.=20

=20

I'll absolutely make clear to whoever buys it that the tires are not for =
long-term use, that they're not the right size, and that part of their =
refurbishment of the truck (besides lube/oil/filter, coolant flush, a =
thorough brake check and a good cleaning of the carb) should be =
replacement of the tires with something more appropriate. I would make a =
terrible used car salesman, as I won't hide known flaws.

=20

If any of you are interested, let me know! It is practically rust-free, =
having lived its entire existence in the arid Southwest.=20

=20

Thanks very much for your thoughts.  I really appreciate the sage (and =
often hard-fought) wisdom shared with me via this list!

=20

-Peter=20

=20

=20

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:44 PM Jim Franklin <[email-masked] =

The only downside I can think of is that the new tires might hit the =
fenders, either immediately or while turning the steering wheel. Still, =
someone buying this should expect issues like this and just needs to be =
told.

jim

> On Oct 8, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Peter Murray <[email-masked] =
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> In cleaning out the garage/shop of my recently-deceased father-in-law, =
i ran across two pairs of P215/70/R15 tires. They're bagged and =
unmounted, and appear to be in similar and reasonable shape (about 50% =
tread remaining).
>=20
> He also had a 1969 Ford F100 pickup that has been sitting for a while. =
The tires are pretty beat and one will not hold air. They're 235/75/R15. =
I got it running while I was out there last week, but with the one rear =
flat, it was tough to evaluate it much. Electrically it appeared solid. =
I drove it about 100 feet, so the clutch, first and reverse all worked =
fine.
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> I realize they're not quite the same size, but I wonder if I couldn't =
replace the tires currently on the truck with the four unmounted tires. =
I realize they're slightly different in width and circumference, but =
they're pretty doggone close. This isn't going to be used as a hauler. =
More likely my mother-in-law will sell it (sigh), and I figure that =
having four decent and inflated tires gives a better negotiating =
position than requiring a buyer to tow his purchase away...
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> Aside from aesthetics and (slightly) incorrect speedo/odometer, what =
Bad things could potentially come from putting these tires on the truck?
>=20
> Yes, i would probably try to keep it, were it not 2000 miles away (its =
in western Colorado, I'm in northern Virginia) and my 3 young children =
and my self-employment keeping me busy enough.
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Shop-talk [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Peter Murray<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 9, 2018 9:43 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Shop-Talk List =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Tire =
size/capability question<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>All-<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The passenger tires with which I'm considering =
replacing the current truck tires are smaller in every dimension, though =
not by a great deal, so I don't think they'd rub. My main objective is =
to safely get this truck sold for maximum value for my =
mother-in-law.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I'll absolutely make clear to whoever buys it that the =
tires are not for long-term use, that they're not the right size, and =
that part of their refurbishment of the truck (besides lube/oil/filter, =
coolant flush, a thorough brake check and a good cleaning of the carb) =
should be replacement of the tires with something more appropriate. I =
would make a terrible used car salesman, as I won't hide known =
flaws.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>If any of you are interested, let me know! It is =
practically rust-free, having lived its entire existence in the arid =
Southwest.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks very much for your thoughts.&nbsp;&nbsp;I =
really appreciate the sage (and often hard-fought) wisdom shared with me =
via this list!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-Peter&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:44 PM Jim Franklin &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>The only downside I can think of is that =
the new tires might hit the fenders, either immediately or while turning =
the steering wheel. Still, someone buying this should expect issues like =
this and just needs to be told.<br><br>jim<br><br>&gt; On Oct 8, 2018, =
at 4:02 PM, Peter Murray &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; =
In cleaning out the garage/shop of my recently-deceased father-in-law, i =
ran across two pairs of P215/70/R15 tires. They're bagged and unmounted, =
and appear to be in similar and reasonable shape (about 50% tread =
remaining).<br>&gt; <br>&gt; He also had a 1969 Ford F100 pickup that =
has been sitting for a while. The tires are pretty beat and one will not =
hold air. They're 235/75/R15. I got it running while I was out there =
last week, but with the one rear flat, it was tough to evaluate it much. =
Electrically it appeared solid. I drove it about 100 feet, so the =
clutch, first and reverse all worked fine.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I realize =
they're not quite the same size, but I wonder if I couldn't replace the =
tires currently on the truck with the four unmounted tires. I realize =
they're slightly different in width and circumference, but they're =
pretty doggone close. This isn't going to be used as a hauler. More =
likely my mother-in-law will sell it (sigh), and I figure that having =
four decent and inflated tires gives a better negotiating position than =
requiring a buyer to tow his purchase away...<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Aside =
from aesthetics and (slightly) incorrect speedo/odometer, what Bad =
things could potentially come from putting these tires on the =
truck?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Yes, i would probably try to keep it, were it =
not 2000 miles away (its in western Colorado, I'm in northern Virginia) =
and my 3 young children and my self-employment keeping me busy =
enough.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thanks for all your sage wisdom!<br>&gt; =
<br>&gt; -Peter<br>&gt; =
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From: "John P. New" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2018 13:59:25 -0400

I see now that I mixed up the two sets of tires. So the second set would be about 3/4" narrower and 2" smaller in diameter than what's on the truck now.

John P. New
London, Ontario, Canada

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I know this is shop-talk, not pickup-sales-talk, but pictures are here
<http://pete.net/photos/index.php?/category/3> and I'm trying to get $4000
for it. Happy to answer any questions about it. Email me directly if you'd
like more information or to discuss further.

Thanks again for the suggestions and items to think about!

-Peter

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 1:25 PM Al Fuller <[email-masked]> wrote:

> *From:* Shop-talk [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of
> *Peter Murray
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 9, 2018 9:43 AM
> *To:* Shop-Talk List <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Tire size/capability question
>
>
>
> All-
>
>
>
> The passenger tires with which I'm considering replacing the current truc=
k
> don't think they'd rub. My main objective is to safely get this truck sol=
d
> thorough brake check and a good cleaning of the carb) should be replaceme=
nt
> of the tires with something more appropriate. I would make a terrible use=
d
> > On Oct 8, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Peter Murray <[email-masked]> wrote=
> > In cleaning out the garage/shop of my recently-deceased father-in-law, =
i
> The tires are pretty beat and one will not hold air. They're 235/75/R15. =
I
> got it running while I was out there last week, but with the one rear fla=
t,
> realize they're slightly different in width and circumference, but they'r=
e
> pretty doggone close. This isn't going to be used as a hauler. More likel=
y
> my mother-in-law will sell it (sigh), and I figure that having four decen=
t
> > Aside from aesthetics and (slightly) incorrect speedo/odometer, what Ba=
d
> in western Colorado, I'm in northern Virginia) and my 3 young children an=
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> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/[email-masked]

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I know this is shop-talk, not pickup-sales-talk, but pictu=
res are=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://pete.net/photos/index.php?/category/3">here<=
/a>=C2=A0and I&#39;m trying to get $4000 for it. Happy to answer any questi=
ons about it. Email me directly if you&#39;d like more information or to di=
scuss further.<div><br></div><div>Thanks again for the suggestions and item=
s to think about!</div><div><br></div><div>-Peter</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 1:25 PM Al Fuller =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlin=
k=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_-8975293929911077880WordSection1"><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Peter =E2=80=93 any pictures?=C2=A0 Price?<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Al Fuller</span><span sty=
le=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d">&#39;65 BJ-8</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">&#39;85 Rx-7</span><span s=
tyle=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:=
#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</s=
pan></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,san=
s-serif"> Shop-talk [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf O=
f </b>Peter Murray<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 9, 2018 9:43 AM<br><b>T=
o:</b> Shop-Talk List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-=
talk] Tire size/capability question<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">All-<u></u><u><=
/u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">The passenger tires with which I&#39;m considering replac=
ing the current truck tires are smaller in every dimension, though not by a=
 great deal, so I don&#39;t think they&#39;d rub. My main objective is to s=
afely get this truck sold for maximum value for my mother-in-law.=C2=A0<u><=
/u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;ll absolutely make clear to whoever bu=
ys it that the tires are not for long-term use, that they&#39;re not the ri=
ght size, and that part of their refurbishment of the truck (besides lube/o=
il/filter, coolant flush, a thorough brake check and a good cleaning of the=
 carb) should be replacement of the tires with something more appropriate. =
I would make a terrible used car salesman, as I won&#39;t hide known flaws.=
<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">If any of you are interested, let me kno=
w! It is practically rust-free, having lived its entire existence in the ar=
id Southwest.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks very much for =
your thoughts.=C2=A0=C2=A0I really appreciate the sage (and often hard-foug=
ht) wisdom shared with me via this list!<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
-Peter=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:44 PM Jim Franklin=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">jamesf@gro=
upwbench.org</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"bor=
der:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-l=
eft:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:1=
2.0pt">The only downside I can think of is that the new tires might hit the=
 fenders, either immediately or while turning the steering wheel. Still, so=
meone buying this should expect issues like this and just needs to be told.=
<br><br>jim<br><br>&gt; On Oct 8, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Peter Murray &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; In cleaning out the garage/shop of my rec=
ently-deceased father-in-law, i ran across two pairs of P215/70/R15 tires. =
They&#39;re bagged and unmounted, and appear to be in similar and reasonabl=
e shape (about 50% tread remaining).<br>&gt; <br>&gt; He also had a 1969 Fo=
rd F100 pickup that has been sitting for a while. The tires are pretty beat=
 and one will not hold air. They&#39;re 235/75/R15. I got it running while =
I was out there last week, but with the one rear flat, it was tough to eval=
uate it much. Electrically it appeared solid. I drove it about 100 feet, so=
 the clutch, first and reverse all worked fine.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I realize =
they&#39;re not quite the same size, but I wonder if I couldn&#39;t replace=
 the tires currently on the truck with the four unmounted tires. I realize =
they&#39;re slightly different in width and circumference, but they&#39;re =
pretty doggone close. This isn&#39;t going to be used as a hauler. More lik=
ely my mother-in-law will sell it (sigh), and I figure that having four dec=
ent and inflated tires gives a better negotiating position than requiring a=
 buyer to tow his purchase away...<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Aside from aesthetics a=
nd (slightly) incorrect speedo/odometer, what Bad things could potentially =
come from putting these tires on the truck?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Yes, i would p=
robably try to keep it, were it not 2000 miles away (its in western Colorad=
o, I&#39;m in northern Virginia) and my 3 young children and my self-employ=
ment keeping me busy enough.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thanks for all your sage wisd=
om!<br>&gt; <br>&gt; -Peter<br>&gt; _______________________________________=
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you're math is backwards Jim.  new tires are smaller than the original flat
tires, not likely to hit the fenders...

(sent this to Peter privately originally, but saw a couple messages with
the wrong info, so sending this out)

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Tualatin, OR  Big Llama Productions

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">you&#39;re math is backwards Jim.=C2=A0 n=
ew tires are smaller than the original flat tires, not likely to hit the fe=
nders...<div><div><img src=3D"cid:ii_jn16h8sa0" alt=3D"image.png" width=3D"=
519" height=3D"223"><br></div><div><br></div><div>(sent this to Peter priva=
tely originally, but saw a couple messages with the wrong info, so sending =
this out)</div><div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signatur=
e">--<br>__<br>Miq Millman=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>Tualatin, OR=C2=A0 Big Llama Prod=
uctions<br></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 7:37 PM Jim Franklin &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The only downside I can think of is t=
hat the new tires might hit the fenders, either immediately or while turnin=
g the steering wheel. Still, someone buying this should expect issues like =
this and just needs to be told.<br>
<br>
jim<br>
<br>
&gt; On Oct 8, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Peter Murray &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:peterwm=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
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alk/[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.tea=
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You might consider putting something on the bill of sale stating the tires =
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Otherwise, I think you'll have no trouble at all=2E Speedo likely reads hi=
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g=2E<br><br>Otherwise, I think you'll have no trouble at all=2E Speedo like=
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