Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Mice

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Scott, if you are going to be there to empty the traps, there are live 
traps that are called "Mice Cubes."  They are as simple as they get and 
can work great.  But they need to be emptied as they only hold one at a 
time.

If not, the other method I use is the TomCat baits at Tractor Supply. (I'm 
sure you can get them elsewhere.)

They are little green blocks that you put behind walls and corners and 
such.  The mice crew on them, get thirsty, go to water and die (so they 
don't die in walls.)

Also, check your local ASPCA.  They often have 'barn cats' that aren't 
fully domesticated.  They can be relocated to your property.  They take 
care of anything outside.

Just some things to think about.

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<font size=2 face="sans-serif">Scott, if you are going to be there to
empty the traps, there are live traps that are called &quot;Mice Cubes.&quot;
&nbsp;They are as simple as they get and can work great. &nbsp;But they
need to be emptied as they only hold one at a time.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">If not, the other method I use is the
TomCat baits at Tractor Supply. &nbsp;(I'm sure you can get them elsewhere.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">They are little green blocks that you
put behind walls and corners and such. &nbsp;The mice crew on them, get
thirsty, go to water and die (so they don't die in walls.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Also, check your local ASPCA. &nbsp;They
often have 'barn cats' that aren't fully domesticated. &nbsp;They can be
relocated to your property. &nbsp;They take care of anything outside.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Just some things to think about.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
<br>
Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.<br>
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being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory.&quot; Ralph
Waldo Emerson </font>
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From: Jim Franklin <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 07:39:38 -0500

Bait brings the poison outside where cats and owls ingest it. Glue traps cause considerable discomfort when the mouse chews off its own limbs to get away. 

Spring traps need to be placed against a wall since that's how mice usually travel. But put the short end against the wall, not the long end. Use peanut butter for bait, and smoosh it into the bait tab, don't just lay it on top. Make them work for it so they put pressure on the bait tab. I've caught dozens this way. You likely have a few nests in different parts of the house, so put traps all over if you'll be gone for a while. Once they set up shop, they multiply quickly. Given what I just went through with them in my ceiling, I'd buy 20 traps and lay them all out. 

I've also heard good things about the rat zapper but they're pricier and fill up. 

Baby mice (which you likely have by now) may be too small to get trapped by the arm, and might be too gentle to spring the trap, but will be big enough in a few weeks. 

I use the Home Depot $1 Victor traps with the copper bait tab. I've also used the ones wit the "fake cheese" bait tab (but with peanut butter) and they have a sensitivity adjustment that I put on max sensitive. 

Good luck. Mine are crawling up the concrete foundation and through gaps under the siding. 

jim

On Dec 6, 2016, at 7:33 PM, Scott Hall <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Guys,
> 
> I left my house in earlier this fall for an extended work trip. I got back a week ago. Gone maybe...three months total?
> 
> I had gnats in the fridge. I'm not sure how I managed that but I cleaned everything out and haven't seen them again.
> 
> I also have a mouse problem in the kitchen. I didn't see any evidence of mice when I got home initially, but I left a chocolate bar on the kitchen counter the second night (wrapped in its wrapper, sealed) and the mouse ate through the wrapper.
> 
> I put out spring mice traps--the mouse ate the bait and didn't spring the trap.
> 
> I put out glue traps. The thing flipped over the trap and clearly was stuck to it, but got away.
> 
> I've seen the thing once--it looks tiny. There might be many (in fact, I assume there are), but I've just seen the one.
> 
> I'm not real excited about poisoning it and having it (or them) die in the walls.
> 
> I have no idea how they're getting up on the counter to start with--I don't see any openings in anything and I can't believe the thing is crawling up the side of the counter, but whatever. I just want it/them done for.
> 
> Any ideas about how to go about it? Am I baiting the trap wrong? More glue traps?
> 
> I'm leaving again until after new years--the house will be cold enough that I don't mind a dead mouse in a trap while I'm gone (and people will be checking the house for me, this time).
> 
> Any advice welcome.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Scott
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From: John Innis <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 07:14:15 -0600

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I will second the TomCat poison baits.  I place several bait stations
around the outside of the house to prevent them form getting in in the
first place.  I also have a few in the attic.  Since I started using them I
have never found any evidence of mice (dead or alive) in the house.  I
never did figure out where they were getting in, but the problem was
solved.  Do be sure to check local law, as some places don't allow using
poison outdoors.  And don't put them more than a few feet from the house so
as to reduce the probability that a bird of pray will snatch up a poisoned
mouse.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 6:10 AM, <[email-masked]> wrote:

> traps that are called "Mice Cubes."  They are as simple as they get and can
> work great.  But they need to be emptied as they only hold one at a time.
>
> If not, the other method I use is the TomCat baits at Tractor Supply.
>  (I'm sure you can get them elsewhere.)
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I will second the TomCat poison baits.=C2=A0 I place sever=
al bait stations around the outside of the house to prevent them form getti=
ng in in the first place.=C2=A0 I also have a few in the attic.=C2=A0 Since=
 I started using them I have never found any evidence of mice (dead or aliv=
e) in the house.=C2=A0 I never did figure out where they were getting in, b=
ut the problem was solved.=C2=A0 Do be sure to check local law, as some pla=
ces don&#39;t allow using poison outdoors.=C2=A0 And don&#39;t put them mor=
e than a few feet from the house so as to reduce the probability that a bir=
d of pray will snatch up a poisoned mouse.=C2=A0 <br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 6:10 AM,  =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Scott, if you are going to be there t=
o
empty the traps, there are live traps that are called &quot;Mice Cubes.&quo=
t;
=C2=A0They are as simple as they get and can work great.=C2=A0 But they
need to be emptied as they only hold one at a time.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">If not, the other method I use is =
the
TomCat baits at Tractor Supply. =C2=A0(I&#39;m sure you can get them elsewh=
ere.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">They are little green blocks that =
you
put behind walls and corners and such.=C2=A0 The mice crew on them, get
thirsty, go to water and die (so they don&#39;t die in walls.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Also, check your local ASPCA.=C2=
=A0 They
often have &#39;barn cats&#39; that aren&#39;t fully domesticated.=C2=A0 Th=
ey can be
relocated to your property.=C2=A0 They take care of anything outside.</font=
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Just some things to think about.</=
font>
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From: Jack Brooks <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 13:32:30 +0000

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I had good results with the Victor traps too, but salami worked better than=
 everything else.  It tripped the traps well too.

With the Victor trap you can adjust the sensitivity by bending the tab and =
rod.

Jack

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:26 AM -0800, "Jim Franklin" <[email-masked]=

Bait brings the poison outside where cats and owls ingest it. Glue traps ca=
use considerable discomfort when the mouse chews off its own limbs to get a=
way.

Spring traps need to be placed against a wall since that's how mice usually=
 travel. But put the short end against the wall, not the long end. Use pean=
ut butter for bait, and smoosh it into the bait tab, don't just lay it on t=
op. Make them work for it so they put pressure on the bait tab. I've caught=
 dozens this way. You likely have a few nests in different parts of the hou=
se, so put traps all over if you'll be gone for a while. Once they set up s=
hop, they multiply quickly. Given what I just went through with them in my =
ceiling, I'd buy 20 traps and lay them all out.

I've also heard good things about the rat zapper but they're pricier and fi=
ll up.

Baby mice (which you likely have by now) may be too small to get trapped by=
 the arm, and might be too gentle to spring the trap, but will be big enoug=
h in a few weeks.

I use the Home Depot $1 Victor traps with the copper bait tab. I've also us=
ed the ones wit the "fake cheese" bait tab (but with peanut butter) and the=
y have a sensitivity adjustment that I put on max sensitive.

Good luck. Mine are crawling up the concrete foundation and through gaps un=
der the siding.

jim

On Dec 6, 2016, at 7:33 PM, Scott Hall <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:

> Guys,
>
> I left my house in earlier this fall for an extended work trip. I got bac=
k a week ago. Gone maybe...three months total?
>
> I had gnats in the fridge. I'm not sure how I managed that but I cleaned =
everything out and haven't seen them again.
>
> I also have a mouse problem in the kitchen. I didn't see any evidence of =
mice when I got home initially, but I left a chocolate bar on the kitchen c=
ounter the second night (wrapped in its wrapper, sealed) and the mouse ate =
through the wrapper.
>
> I put out spring mice traps--the mouse ate the bait and didn't spring the=
 trap.
>
> I put out glue traps. The thing flipped over the trap and clearly was stu=
ck to it, but got away.
>
> I've seen the thing once--it looks tiny. There might be many (in fact, I =
assume there are), but I've just seen the one.
>
> I'm not real excited about poisoning it and having it (or them) die in th=
e walls.
>
> I have no idea how they're getting up on the counter to start with--I don=
't see any openings in anything and I can't believe the thing is crawling u=
p the side of the counter, but whatever. I just want it/them done for.
>
> Any ideas about how to go about it? Am I baiting the trap wrong? More glu=
e traps?
>
> I'm leaving again until after new years--the house will be cold enough th=
at I don't mind a dead mouse in a trap while I'm gone (and people will be c=
hecking the house for me, this time).
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/james=
[email-masked]

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rod. <br>
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&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">jamesf@grou=
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<div class=3D"PlainText">Bait brings the poison outside where cats and owls=
 ingest it. Glue traps cause considerable discomfort when the mouse chews o=
ff its own limbs to get away.
<br>
<br>
Spring traps need to be placed against a wall since that's how mice usually=
 travel. But put the short end against the wall, not the long end. Use pean=
ut butter for bait, and smoosh it into the bait tab, don't just lay it on t=
op. Make them work for it so they
 put pressure on the bait tab. I've caught dozens this way. You likely have=
 a few nests in different parts of the house, so put traps all over if you'=
ll be gone for a while. Once they set up shop, they multiply quickly. Given=
 what I just went through with them
 in my ceiling, I'd buy 20 traps and lay them all out. <br>
<br>
I've also heard good things about the rat zapper but they're pricier and fi=
ll up.
<br>
<br>
Baby mice (which you likely have by now) may be too small to get trapped by=
 the arm, and might be too gentle to spring the trap, but will be big enoug=
h in a few weeks.
<br>
<br>
I use the Home Depot $1 Victor traps with the copper bait tab. I've also us=
ed the ones wit the &quot;fake cheese&quot; bait tab (but with peanut butte=
r) and they have a sensitivity adjustment that I put on max sensitive.
<br>
<br>
Good luck. Mine are crawling up the concrete foundation and through gaps un=
der the siding.
<br>
<br>
jim<br>
<br>
On Dec 6, 2016, at 7:33 PM, Scott Hall &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Guys,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I left my house in earlier this fall for an extended work trip. I got =
back a week ago. Gone maybe...three months total?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I had gnats in the fridge. I'm not sure how I managed that but I clean=
ed everything out and haven't seen them again.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I also have a mouse problem in the kitchen. I didn't see any evidence =
of mice when I got home initially, but I left a chocolate bar on the kitche=
n counter the second night (wrapped in its wrapper, sealed) and the mouse a=
te through the wrapper.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I put out spring mice traps--the mouse ate the bait and didn't spring =
the trap.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I put out glue traps. The thing flipped over the trap and clearly was =
stuck to it, but got away.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I've seen the thing once--it looks tiny. There might be many (in fact,=
 I assume there are), but I've just seen the one.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I'm not real excited about poisoning it and having it (or them) die in=
 the walls.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I have no idea how they're getting up on the counter to start with--I =
don't see any openings in anything and I can't believe the thing is crawlin=
g up the side of the counter, but whatever. I just want it/them done for.<b=
r>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Any ideas about how to go about it? Am I baiting the trap wrong? More =
glue traps?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I'm leaving again until after new years--the house will be cold enough=
 that I don't mind a dead mouse in a trap while I'm gone (and people will b=
e checking the house for me, this time).<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Any advice welcome.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Scott<br>
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From: john Mitchell <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 08:53:46 -0500

I use balls of old dog hair, that I have picked up with my vacuum 
cleaner.  I put them around my TR6 in the winter and it's never been 
touched.  Obviously it helps to have a dog:)  John Mitchell

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Scott, I found the new plastic spring traps are too insensitive, I found =
the old metal ones and they work fine. The mice come and go in my =
kitchen, but if I keep at it, they usually disappear for quite awhile =
after I've caught a few.=20
I've tried the high frequency devices you plug in to keep them away. =
I've heard some people have good luck with them. They haven't worked =
well for me. Pretty cheap, worth a try.
I read recently that feral cats are decimating the bird population, so I =
wouldn't be in a hurry to put another cat out there.
One guy said he used a 2 gallon can 1/2 full of gas. He put some sort of =
slippery rod across the top, greased I think, with cheese or something =
in the middle. The mice would fall in the gas trying to get the bait. He =
said he caught 25 mice or so in his garage that way.
Brian C

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On Dec 7, 2016, at 4:10 AM, [email-masked] wrote:

> Scott, if you are going to be there to empty the traps, there are live =
traps that are called "Mice Cubes."  They are as simple as they get and =
can work great.  But they need to be emptied as they only hold one at a =
time.=20
>=20
> If not, the other method I use is the TomCat baits at Tractor Supply.  =
(I'm sure you can get them elsewhere.)=20
>=20
> They are little green blocks that you put behind walls and corners and =
such.  The mice crew on them, get thirsty, go to water and die (so they =
don't die in walls.)=20
>=20
> Also, check your local ASPCA.  They often have 'barn cats' that aren't =
fully domesticated.  They can be relocated to your property.  They take =
care of anything outside.=20
>=20
> Just some things to think about.=20
>=20
>=20
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a =
rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your =
territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson =
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">Scott, I found the new plastic spring traps are too insensitive, I =
found the old metal ones and they work fine. The mice come and go in my =
kitchen, but if I keep at it, they usually disappear for quite awhile =
after I've caught a few.&nbsp;<div>I've tried the high frequency devices =
you plug in to keep them away. I've heard some people have good luck =
with them. They haven't worked well for me. Pretty cheap, worth a =
try.</div><div>I read recently that feral cats are decimating the bird =
population, so I wouldn't be in a hurry to put another cat out =
there.</div><div>One guy said he used a 2 gallon can 1/2 full of gas. He =
put some sort of slippery rod across the top, greased I think, with =
cheese or something in the middle. The mice would fall in the gas trying =
to get the bait. He said he caught 25 mice or so in his garage that =
way.</div><div>Brian C</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited=3D"true">
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style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Brian C Kennedy &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Cell 734 649 8548<br>2711 N. Maple Road &nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Ann Arbor, MI 48103-2158<br><a =
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<br><div><div>On Dec 7, 2016, at 4:10 AM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><font =
size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Scott, if you are going to be there to
empty the traps, there are live traps that are called "Mice Cubes."
&nbsp;They are as simple as they get and can work great. &nbsp;But they
need to be emptied as they only hold one at a time.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">If not, the other method I use =
is the
TomCat baits at Tractor Supply. &nbsp;(I'm sure you can get them =
elsewhere.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">They are little green blocks =
that you
put behind walls and corners and such. &nbsp;The mice crew on them, get
thirsty, go to water and die (so they don't die in walls.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Also, check your local ASPCA. =
&nbsp;They
often have 'barn cats' that aren't fully domesticated. &nbsp;They can be
relocated to your property. &nbsp;They take care of anything =
outside.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Just some things to think =
about.</font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
<br>
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rational
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Waldo Emerson =
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From: Pat Horne <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2016 09:02:25 -0600

We live in the country an have mouse problems from time to time. Spring traps don't work as well as they used to, but I found a plastic spring trap that works every time. I can go check the brand later, but is similar to the Tom Cat 33501. The bait goes in a small cup from the bottom & sits below the trip plate so the mouse has to get up on the plate to eat.

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity

On Dec 6, 2016, at 6:33 PM, Scott Hall <[email-masked]> wrote:

Guys,

Any advice welcome.

Thanks.

Scott

[email-masked]

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Contrac is the name of the little green blocks that were mentioned.  Their =
advantage is that they cannot move them to their nest and have to eat them =
in place, and, as was previously stated, once ingested the mice look for a =
water source, generally outside, and then die.  I=E2=80=99ve used them for =
years with much success. =20

From: [email-masked]
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:51 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Mice

Scott, if you are going to be there to empty the traps, there are live trap=
s that are called "Mice Cubes." =C2=A0They are as simple as they get and ca=
n work great. =C2=A0But they need to be emptied as they only hold one at a =
time.=20

If not, the other method I use is the TomCat baits at Tractor Supply. =C2=
=A0(I'm sure you can get them elsewhere.)=20

They are little green blocks that you put behind walls and corners and such=
. =C2=A0The mice crew on them, get thirsty, go to water and die (so they do=
n't die in walls.)=20

Also, check your local ASPCA. =C2=A0They often have 'barn cats' that aren't=
 fully domesticated. =C2=A0They can be relocated to your property. =C2=A0Th=
ey take care of anything outside.=20

Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Tech Viper
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational b=
eing are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo=
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From: David Hillman <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 11:43:33 -0500 (EST)

> sure you can get them elsewhere.)

    My house had mice when I bought it, but my cat took care of them in 
short order, and then my neighbors' mice, and then all the chipmunks in 
the neighborhood, most of the rabbits, a number of squirrels, and lots of 
birds.  He was a psychopath ;)  He often left the headless corpses in my 
garage.  Sometimes just the head.

    So there are pros and cons to the barn cat approach.

    A couple years after he died, I noticed mouse droppings in my boat 
shed.  These Tomcat traps worked well enough to stave off that invasion, 
and I've seen no evidence since.  My mice liked peanut butter, as bait.

<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N6XKV4I/>

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From: Benjamin Zwissler <[email-masked]>
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We used a 55 gallon drum as a trash can in a shop I worked in many years
ago.  Lunch remnants went in the drum.  One day someone left a 2x4 leaning
against the drum.  The next day the drum was full of mice.  They'd climbed
the 2x4 and jumped in after that food, then found they couldn't get out.
The foreman took the drum out and lit the trash on fire.  So I think you
can accomplish the same thing without leaving an open can of gas around.

Ben.....

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Brian Kennedy <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Scott, I found the new plastic spring traps are too insensitive, I found
> the old metal ones and they work fine. The mice come and go in my kitchen,
> but if I keep at it, they usually disappear for quite awhile after I've
> caught a few.
> I've tried the high frequency devices you plug in to keep them away. I've
> heard some people have good luck with them. They haven't worked well for
> me. Pretty cheap, worth a try.
> I read recently that feral cats are decimating the bird population, so I
> One guy said he used a 2 gallon can 1/2 full of gas. He put some sort of
> slippery rod across the top, greased I think, with cheese or something in
> the middle. The mice would fall in the gas trying to get the bait. He said
> he caught 25 mice or so in his garage that way.
> Brian C
>
> Brian C Kennedy           Cell 734 649 8548 <(734)%20649-8548>
> 2711 N. Maple Road
> Ann Arbor, MI 48103-2158
> [email-masked]
>
>
> Waldo Emerson _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> options/shop-talk/[email-masked]
>
>
>

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Columbus, IN

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>We used a 55 gallon drum as a trash can in a shop I w=
orked in many years ago.=C2=A0 Lunch remnants went in the drum.=C2=A0 One d=
ay someone left a 2x4 leaning against the drum.=C2=A0 The next day the drum=
 was full of mice.=C2=A0 They&#39;d climbed the 2x4 and jumped in after tha=
t food, then found they couldn&#39;t get out.=C2=A0 The foreman took the dr=
um out and lit the trash on fire.=C2=A0 So I think you can accomplish the s=
ame thing without leaving an open can of gas around.<br><br></div>Ben.....<=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, =
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Brian Kennedy <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:brea=
k-word">Scott, I found the new plastic spring traps are too insensitive, I =
found the old metal ones and they work fine. The mice come and go in my kit=
chen, but if I keep at it, they usually disappear for quite awhile after I&=
#39;ve caught a few.=C2=A0<div>I&#39;ve tried the high frequency devices yo=
u plug in to keep them away. I&#39;ve heard some people have good luck with=
 them. They haven&#39;t worked well for me. Pretty cheap, worth a try.</div=
><div>I read recently that feral cats are decimating the bird population, s=
o I wouldn&#39;t be in a hurry to put another cat out there.</div><div>One =
guy said he used a 2 gallon can 1/2 full of gas. He put some sort of slippe=
ry rod across the top, greased I think, with cheese or something in the mid=
dle. The mice would fall in the gas trying to get the bait. He said he caug=
ht 25 mice or so in his garage that way.</div><div>Brian C</div><div><br><d=
iv>
<span class=3D"m_2431521375680860283Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-colla=
pse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;;font-st=
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div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span class=3D"m_2431521375680860283Appl=
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y:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weig=
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text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;bor=
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 class=3D"m_2431521375680860283Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse:s=
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ont-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:norm=
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l;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div style=3D"word-=
wrap:break-word">Brian C Kennedy =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cell <a=
 href=3D"tel:(734)%20649-8548" value=3D"+17346498548" target=3D"_blank">734=
 649 8548</a><br>2711 N. Maple Road =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<br>Ann Arbor, MI 48=
103-2158<br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">kenn=
[email-masked]</a><br><br></div></span></div></span></div></span></div><=
/span>
</div>
<br><div><div>On Dec 7, 2016, at 4:10 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> wrote:</div><br class=3D"m_2431=
521375680860283Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><font s=
ize=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Scott, if you are going to be there to
empty the traps, there are live traps that are called &quot;Mice Cubes.&quo=
t;
=C2=A0They are as simple as they get and can work great.=C2=A0 But they
need to be emptied as they only hold one at a time.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">If not, the other method I use is =
the
TomCat baits at Tractor Supply. =C2=A0(I&#39;m sure you can get them elsewh=
ere.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">They are little green blocks that =
you
put behind walls and corners and such.=C2=A0 The mice crew on them, get
thirsty, go to water and die (so they don&#39;t die in walls.)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Also, check your local ASPCA.=C2=
=A0 They
often have &#39;barn cats&#39; that aren&#39;t fully domesticated.=C2=A0 Th=
ey can be
relocated to your property.=C2=A0 They take care of anything outside.</font=
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Just some things to think about.</=
font>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
<br>
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nal
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory.&quot; Ralph
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From: Steven Trovato <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2016 13:50:05 -0500

Do a google search for "bucket mouse trap" and you will see lots of 
examples of this.  Usually it's a 5 gallon bucket.  There's no reason 
to use gasoline.  Water works fine, with antifreeze if in a freezing 
area.  You just need to catch/kill mice, not incinerate them along 
with the whole building.  Personally just use plastic traps like 
these:  www.intruderinc.com/products/the-better-mousetrap.

At 09:54 AM 12/7/2016, Brian Kennedy wrote:
>One guy said he used a 2 gallon can 1/2 full of gas. He put some 
>sort of slippery rod across the top, greased I think, with cheese or 
>something in the middle. The mice would fall in the gas trying to 
>get the bait. He said he caught 25 mice or so in his garage that way.

[email-masked]

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From: Brian Kennedy <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 11:53:00 -0800

I didn't say he was smart. Maybe I should check and see if still has a garage?

On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Steven Trovato <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Do a google search for "bucket mouse trap" and you will see lots of examples of this.  Usually it's a 5 gallon bucket.  There's no reason to use gasoline.  Water works fine, with antifreeze if in a freezing area.  You just need to catch/kill mice, not incinerate them along with the whole building.  Personally just use plastic traps like these:  www.intruderinc.com/products/the-better-mousetrap.
> 
>> One guy said he used a 2 gallon can 1/2 full of gas. He put some sort of slippery rod across the top, greased I think, with cheese or something in the middle. The mice would fall in the gas trying to get the bait. He said he caught 25 mice or so in his garage that way.
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Why was the heater red-tagged? Can't it be repaired?

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=E2=9E=A2 Why was the heater red-tagged? Can't it be repaired?

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