Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Trailer storage idea

From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 18:44:57 -0400

Eric,

I don't know the details of how the trailer is maneuvered with the
forklift, but we had a "walker" for our travel trailer to fit it into
a tight storage spot.  I can't find a picture, but it was like two
upside-down soup bowls connected on the top (bottom of the "bowl") by
square tubing.  In the middle of the square tubing was a hitch ball.
A long pole fit in one end of the tubing.  By manipulating the pole,
you could walk the two bowl "feet" and maneuver the trailer.

And then there's the two-wheel gadgets, like this:
http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/MaxxTow/MT70225.html

Still need to go to all that trouble?  Can you stick one corner where
it will end up, put a jack stand under it, and use a jack on the other
end to swing it in place?

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM,  <[email-masked]> wrote:
> I have an idea that I was wondering if anyone could let me know their
> opinion.
>
> I have a large dual axle car trailer.  I store it in a building and I need a
> fork-lift to maneuver it into it's storage space.
>
> I was wonder if I could use a set of car dollies (the ones that go under the
> tires) to pull the trailer straight back onto them and the manually push the
> trailer laterally into it's spot so I wouldn't need to use the fork-lift.
>
> Here are my concerns...
>
> 1 Getting the trailer on and off the dollies (do I need to jack it up or can
> I drive them on them.)
>
> 2 What is a good set of dollies?  (I only need to move it laterally, so I
> don't need a set with casters, just the ones with the rollers should be
> fine.)
>
> 3 Finally, the building has an asphalt floor.  I would imagine that the
> rollers would sink into them.  So I would need to get them on a wood plank.
> What is the minimum thickest of plank to prevent sinking, but easy enough to
> roll the trailer onto?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
> Eric P
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational
> being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo
> Emerson
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From: "john niolon" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 18:38:15 -0500

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Eric, never seen a set of dollies without casters and everyone =
I=E2=80=99ve seen used, you had to jack the wheel up and slide the dolly =
under it...never seen any drive on.   there is one set that is more =
expensive that has built in jacks=20
http://www.bendpak.com/shop-equipment/carts-and-dollies/rcd-1500.aspx.   =
I would imagine with 4 wheels it=E2=80=99s more trouble to jack them up =
with one wheel raising and one lowering...  guess it would depend on how =
often you want to do this...=20

the asphalt is another matter also... depending on the weight of the =
trailer, the dolly wheels would probably settle in. More things to do =
laying down planks or plywood. I=E2=80=99d say 1/2-3/4=E2=80=9D plywood =
would be easiest.  Mine are harbor freight... cheap... but the wheels =
suck... cast iron with no bearings or bushings.  I swapped them out for =
ball bearing wheels of hard plastic and it make 200% difference.

I=E2=80=99ve moved lots of trailers from 6=E2=80=99 to 40=E2=80=99 =
around the shop with a fork lift and a ball on a piece of rectangular =
tubing that fits the forks... on a concrete floor...  once you get your =
steering thinking backwards it=E2=80=99s easy... but it=E2=80=99s a big =
shop.  At one time I could turn around a 40=E2=80=99 inside the shop in =
a three point turn... too much crap in there now to do it... use the =
drive thru doors !!!

another idea... build a lean-too adjacent to shop to hold the trailer =
!!! problem solved with more shop space.

john

From: [email-masked]=20
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 4:17 PM
To: [email-masked]=20
Subject: [Shop-talk] Trailer storage idea

I have an idea that I was wondering if anyone could let me know their =
opinion. =20

I have a large dual axle car trailer.  I store it in a building and I =
need a fork-lift to maneuver it into it's storage space.=20

I was wonder if I could use a set of car dollies (the ones that go under =
the tires) to pull the trailer straight back onto them and the manually =
push the trailer laterally into it's spot so I wouldn't need to use the =
fork-lift.=20

Here are my concerns...=20

1 Getting the trailer on and off the dollies (do I need to jack it up or =
can I drive them on them.)=20

2 What is a good set of dollies?  (I only need to move it laterally, so =
I don't need a set with casters, just the ones with the rollers should =
be fine.)=20

3 Finally, the building has an asphalt floor.  I would imagine that the =
rollers would sink into them.  So I would need to get them on a wood =
plank.  What is the minimum thickest of plank to prevent sinking, but =
easy enough to roll the trailer onto?=20

Thanks!=20

Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a =
rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your =
territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson=20

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<DIV>Eric, never seen a set of dollies without casters and everyone =
I=E2=80=99ve seen=20
used, you had to jack the wheel up and slide the dolly under it...never =
seen any=20
drive on.&nbsp;&nbsp; there is one set that is more expensive that has =
built in=20
jacks </DIV>
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title=3Dhttp://www.bendpak.com/shop-equipment/carts-and-dollies/rcd-1500.=
aspx=20
href=3D"http://www.bendpak.com/shop-equipment/carts-and-dollies/rcd-1500.=
aspx">http://www.bendpak.com/shop-equipment/carts-and-dollies/rcd-1500.as=
px</A>.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
I would imagine with 4 wheels it=E2=80=99s more trouble to jack them up =
with one wheel=20
raising and one lowering...&nbsp; guess it would depend on how often you =
want to=20
do this... </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>the asphalt is another matter also... depending on the weight of =
the=20
trailer, the dolly wheels would probably settle in. More things to do =
laying=20
down planks or plywood. I=E2=80=99d say 1/2-3/4=E2=80=9D plywood would =
be easiest.&nbsp; Mine=20
are harbor freight... cheap... but the wheels suck... cast iron with no =
bearings=20
or bushings.&nbsp; I swapped them out for ball bearing wheels of hard =
plastic=20
and it make 200% difference.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I=E2=80=99ve moved lots of trailers from 6=E2=80=99 to 40=E2=80=99 =
around the shop with a fork lift=20
and a ball on a piece of rectangular tubing that fits the forks... on a =
concrete=20
floor...&nbsp; once you get your steering thinking backwards =
it=E2=80=99s easy... but=20
it=E2=80=99s a big shop.&nbsp; At one time I could turn around a =
40=E2=80=99 inside the shop in=20
a three point turn... too much crap in there now to do it... use the =
drive thru=20
doors !!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>another idea... build a lean-too adjacent to shop to hold the =
trailer !!!=20
problem solved with more shop space.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>john</DIV>
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size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif>I have an idea that I was wondering if anyone =
could let=20
me know their opinion.&nbsp; </FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=3D2 =
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a large dual axle car trailer.&nbsp; I store it in a building and I need =
a=20
fork-lift to maneuver it into it's storage space.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT =
size=3D2=20
face=3Dsans-serif>I was wonder if I could use a set of car dollies (the =
ones that=20
go under the tires) to pull the trailer straight back onto them and the =
manually=20
push the trailer laterally into it's spot so I wouldn't need to use the=20
fork-lift.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif>Here are my=20
concerns...</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif>1 Getting =
the trailer on=20
and off the dollies (do I need to jack it up or can I drive them on=20
them.)</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif>2 What is a good =
set of=20
dollies?&nbsp; (I only need to move it laterally, so I don't need a set =
with=20
casters, just the ones with the rollers should be fine.)</FONT> =
<BR><BR><FONT=20
size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif>3 Finally, the building has an asphalt =
floor.&nbsp; I=20
would imagine that the rollers would sink into them.&nbsp; So I would =
need to=20
get them on a wood plank.&nbsp; What is the minimum thickest of plank to =
prevent=20
sinking, but easy enough to roll the trailer onto?</FONT> =
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size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif>Thanks!</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2=20
face=3Dsans-serif><BR><BR>Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud =
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P<BR>"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a =
rational=20
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph =
Waldo=20
Emerson </FONT>
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