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--_000_DM3PR13MB061761D1FC27C0002067F001B4C00DM3PR13MB0617namp_-- --===============7755894554584685766== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7755894554584685766==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 3 03:37:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBFC2588A92 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 03:37:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from Deep13.mail.Megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC3A258799B for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 02:02:10 -0600 (MDT) To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net type=4; name=$KeepSent From: eric@megageek.com Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 04:02:06 -0400 2013) at 10/03/2016 04:02:26 AM, Serialize complete at 10/03/2016 04:02:26 AM Subject: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============2437654620614113514== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 002C243F85258041_= I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property. It's garage kept and I had it since it was new. (so it's well taken care of.) Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off (it has an auto clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.) A search on the web has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a new computer (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what works.) It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it. Problem is, it's starting to happen again just a few months later. Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up. It's mostly used at slow speed or it's idling while I'm nearby. I'm guessing this is part of the problem. Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small runway. I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, but I was wondering if there was a better way. SO, my questions are... Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue? Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening? Thanks in advance. Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 002C243F85258041_= I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property.  It's garage kept and I had it since it was new.  (so it's well taken care of.)

Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off  (it has an auto clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.)  A search on the web has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a new computer (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what works.)

It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it.  Problem is, it's starting to happen again just a few months later.

Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up.  It's mostly used at slow speed or it's idling while I'm nearby.  I'm guessing this is part of the problem.

Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small runway.  I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, but I was wondering if there was a better way.

SO, my questions are...

Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue?

Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening?

Thanks in advance.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 002C243F85258041_=-- --===============2437654620614113514== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2437654620614113514==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 3 06:17:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07EA25890F5 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 06:17:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-1.talktalk.net (smtp-out-1.talktalk.net [62.24.135.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8108D2589749 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 05:35:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.130.181.78] ([82.132.217.49]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP id r1WvbXpYP0Kuvr1WvbvqyD; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 12:35:36 +0100 t=1475494536; bh=7iTc1zX5+XgpQvEkFX5bqtEFEUpkFxFdQvORFrmpyk0=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Date:To; b=CTvVhOV4SNVSwZoO1EOXm2OOdmZafDxGDA6rI5+jxtGqyT0pqv5hzJTYno0NDC8JC 1rtym8WyUKeSVtzAGchR/vBLgClQE8URK3JnIRiJR2xXeprwrFE2CQ/lJ9OO32/Q2T EDcava4FM3z5BJxOnW4s8P/VQaPIOj2svKBv51eE= a=/lLfuYY0VJy3WrsyC9WzoA==:17 a=iEZWaKCLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=GVpnIVljfl-CuqOS_aIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=agEv3sR6yqgSYEXeWxIA:9 a=YbjEkH529aCmJ5rE:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=vGgPcN4G-ktUWJNYb7fx:22 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=wQf5WvvPLwzY6UdiLRIz:22 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android References: From: Neil Sherry Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 12:35:27 +0100 To: eric@megageek.com,Shop-talk@autox.team.net sYidMELwqEopOEiUejxIeDzQ8eCx2p5e5zYJzWV2wmhXrwB/uEBtJu70syD5ImlYc+GQCEoEc8KusAqbNgSHP1JvMTa+2GFbXV4= Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8462492094884388791== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ------R3ZU4OBZLDFRA9QJPCIDAN70DAEW0O Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit charset=UTF-8 Sounds like it needs an Italian Service... On 3 October 2016 09:02:06 BST, eric@megageek.com wrote: >I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property. > >It's garage kept and I had it since it was new. (so it's well taken >care >of.) > >Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off (it has >an >auto clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.) A search on > >the web has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a >new >computer (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what >works.) > >It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it. Problem > >is, it's starting to happen again just a few months later. > >Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up. It's mostly used at >slow >speed or it's idling while I'm nearby. I'm guessing this is part of >the >problem. > >Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small > >runway. I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, >but I >was wondering if there was a better way. > >SO, my questions are... > >Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue? > >Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening? > >Thanks in advance. > > >Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. >Eric P >"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a >rational >being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph >Waldo Emerson > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ > >Shop-talk@autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.96 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/neiljsherry@talktalk.net -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ------R3ZU4OBZLDFRA9QJPCIDAN70DAEW0O charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sounds like it needs an Italian Service...

On 3 October 2016 09:02:06 BST, eric@megageek.com wrote:
I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property.  It's garage kept and I had it since it was new.  (so it's well taken care of.)

Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off  (it has an auto clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.)  A search on the web has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a new computer (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what works.)

It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it.  Problem is, it's starting to happen again just a few months later.

Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up.  It's mostly used at slow speed or it's idling while I'm nearby.  I'm guessing this is part of the problem.

Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small runway.  I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, but I was wondering if there was a better way.

SO, my questions are...

Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue?

Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening?

Thanks in advance.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson 



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Please excuse my brevity. ------R3ZU4OBZLDFRA9QJPCIDAN70DAEW0O-- --===============8462492094884388791== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8462492094884388791==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 3 06:35:55 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B439C258963E for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 06:35:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f46.google.com (mail-oi0-f46.google.com [209.85.218.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAC2258974A for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 05:39:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f46.google.com with SMTP id r126so196205636oib.0 for ; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 04:39:45 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=GFa/tIZn55fQ9ukFrhQd9ixuFdVZSPo8Srn0SdrWTX0=; b=K/t5bpPb8BNiQZS3FzsiATXFdUWD0Slxuwv0Sm4o3TX8Ro6WQzAoaLM7PHQFhZH5n5 1IqDH1L/R5L3DX/ue5TPcQpRKUiSsHZpT95X+WAfJZGpOveJrXrYgWbqGDjf+mlr1GvB aRLI3Y31Gm6Xj71N04YBOXb0whbXjBwl1/cSW8kG2ROdif44wtGORQ6N3/TdPgwqUqj7 MU6qh3pu4w6P7+ala/n30xz9sJhuEPH8yaKx2QKKAlzfKaB5Eg7wf1w8MbNxDToeQl/8 BtN5slZLKVM5Af632HFCoFjoJo3f7ewX/XgU0V7Vh7ugpZPoF8uiDQ6SmKdKNuYcKo7P YFNQ== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=GFa/tIZn55fQ9ukFrhQd9ixuFdVZSPo8Srn0SdrWTX0=; b=d7nYWaEOfyKXkCa8MytwYX7CqonO3vyAI2PTAJcxHkJSfwlAqrILweQMDNt17oj/dR ZviVsV6Z3SRJNZCayFF1ktmIQ/bPpwgX9JXOHoaUduiTj33mhHjshUcbO/ycRecacV32 G4Uc/W96biqcUlnguI5ohVpwW/uO0uHZWjuL+J863hecQ1DJ+339G5C8X0aUJ7wb+sWC 5yKAOaqvevQ2kQMuJ2IzWRyPG2hSYgY0pf76syglyl/MUpsruz1HKVpx/4hPHOls3VqH 0R34wZemWHUfVdY5uWFnXtiEA9MjQ0aZN0smhMGczSUJhPGKg93w4xT50Yi5+N+pl5F6 kC9w== 03 Oct 2016 04:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.113.97 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 04:39:44 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Jeff Scarbrough Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 07:39:44 -0400 To: eric@megageek.com Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net What did the spark plug look like when you pulled it out? -- Jeff On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 4:02 AM, wrote: > I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property. > It's garage kept and I had it since it was new. (so it's well taken care > of.) > > Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off (it has an > auto clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.) A search on the > web has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a new > computer (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what works.) > > It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it. Problem is, > it's starting to happen again just a few months later. > > Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up. It's mostly used at slow > speed or it's idling while I'm nearby. I'm guessing this is part of the > problem. > > Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small > runway. I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, but I > was wondering if there was a better way. > > SO, my questions are... > > Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue? > > Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening? > > Thanks in advance. > > > Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. > Eric P > "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational > being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo > Emerson > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 3 07:21:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCD1258927D for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 07:21:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com (mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com [17.110.78.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4C22588BF8 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 05:58:21 -0600 (MDT) mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.38.0 64bit (built Feb 26 2016)) id <0OEG00H00ZP0MU00@mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com> for Shop-talk@autox.team.net; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 11:58:03 +0000 (GMT) t=1475495883; bh=juUF6qCSfvhaA/ueGYBcTwIOzs9zRpDqBYE6NlRg8EA=; h=Content-type:MIME-version:Subject:From:Date:Message-id:To; b=NJVyMIboMzlFtLLjC1xyp+cwXHhRIHAdaf9PpCgD0Yo7Zwhn2+F8V2gieXth9O3Ui 4m334bWUrJCIXzRfqgvy5nsHLlzs8C9KMBnFY1ZVJmKPxvGl0XFw9KrxnVZ14tjCh1 Xwqj2SVgT8JLGFXLd9SF3N9wwXZkByEBzEUWvecLrdkqyhUeyhhgaeaWayyfhl1eoR sD1RgsDxtfTNMVMFimcSrkHjVgzu/gVdHKTMLXqqnKNGx73zIWOhERuKLmWuUaaPiO EWMmPW+JFnlHRyPvvts1B06D26sV4lEnsg9TIIpdb3B6pR09yjZ/pvu7RvpX1ETYid /B8WyYFGJ6LRQ== Received: from [192.168.50.87] (unknown [184.105.18.14]) by mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.38.0 64bit (built Feb 26 2016)) with ESMTPSA id <0OEG00MZWZWPTH50@mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com>; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 11:58:03 +0000 (GMT) definitions=2016-10-03_07:,, signatures=0 clxscore=1034 suspectscore=4 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1603290000 definitions=main-1610030208 From: Pat Horne Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 06:58:01 -0500 References: To: eric@megageek.com Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7742544212416562168== boundary=Apple-Mail-482C910C-13E4-4E5A-9C6A-2306416082E1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-482C910C-13E4-4E5A-9C6A-2306416082E1 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have you asked the dealer service person? They might have run into this befo= re.=20 Peace, Pat Pat Horne=20 We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity On Oct 3, 2016, at 3:02 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote: I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property. It'= s garage kept and I had it since it was new. (so it's well taken care of.)=20= Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off (it has an aut= o clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.) A search on the web= has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a new computer= (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what works.)=20 It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it. Problem is, i= t's starting to happen again just a few months later.=20 Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up. It's mostly used at slow spe= ed or it's idling while I'm nearby. I'm guessing this is part of the proble= m.=20 Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small runw= ay. I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, but I was w= ondering if there was a better way.=20 SO, my questions are...=20 Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue?=20 Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening?=20 Thanks in advance.=20 Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational be= ing are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo E= merson _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive as@icloud.com --Apple-Mail-482C910C-13E4-4E5A-9C6A-2306416082E1 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Have you asked the dealer service person? They might have run into this before. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity


On Oct 3, 2016, at 3:02 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote:

I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property.  It's garage kept and I had it since it was new.  (so it's well taken care of.)

Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off  (it has an auto clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.)  A search on the web has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a new computer (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what works.)

It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it.  Problem is, it's starting to happen again just a few months later.

Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up.  It's mostly used at slow speed or it's idling while I'm nearby.  I'm guessing this is part of the problem.

Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small runway.  I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, but I was wondering if there was a better way.

SO, my questions are...

Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue?

Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening?

Thanks in advance.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson
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--Apple-Mail-482C910C-13E4-4E5A-9C6A-2306416082E1-- --===============7742544212416562168== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7742544212416562168==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 3 08:42:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8362588319 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 08:42:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from Deep13.mail.Megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5577D25893D4 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 07:25:00 -0600 (MDT) References: To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net type=4; name=$KeepSent From: eric@megageek.com Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 09:24:57 -0400 2013) at 10/03/2016 09:25:14 AM, Serialize complete at 10/03/2016 09:25:14 AM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============1990344257990373635== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0049B20F85258041_= The spark plug looked normal, but the new one fixed the problem. BTW, Neil suggested an "Italian Service". I'm an Italian Jersey boy and I never heard that term. I thought any service I did was Italian Service. 8>) What's an Italian Service (don't worry, you can't offend me.) Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson From: Jeff Scarbrough To: eric@megageek.com Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Date: 10/03/2016 08:38 AM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem What did the spark plug look like when you pulled it out? -- Jeff On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 4:02 AM, wrote: > I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property. > It's garage kept and I had it since it was new. (so it's well taken care > of.) > > Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off (it has an > auto clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.) A search on the > web has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a new > computer (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what works.) > > It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it. Problem is, > it's starting to happen again just a few months later. > > Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up. It's mostly used at slow > speed or it's idling while I'm nearby. I'm guessing this is part of the > problem. > > Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small > runway. I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, but I > was wondering if there was a better way. > > SO, my questions are... > > Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue? > > Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening? > > Thanks in advance. > > > --=_alternative 0049B20F85258041_= The spark plug looked normal, but the new one fixed the problem.

BTW, Neil suggested an "Italian Service".  I'm an Italian Jersey boy and I never heard that term.  I thought any service I did was Italian Service. 8>)

What's an Italian Service (don't worry, you can't offend me.)


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson



From:        Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
To:        eric@megageek.com
Cc:        "shop-talk@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date:        10/03/2016 08:38 AM
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem



What did the spark plug look like when you pulled it out?

-- Jeff

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 4:02 AM,  <eric@megageek.com> wrote:
> I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property.
> It's garage kept and I had it since it was new.  (so it's well taken care
> of.)
>
> Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off  (it has an
> auto clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.)  A search on the
> web has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a new
> computer (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what works.)
>
> It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it.  Problem is,
> it's starting to happen again just a few months later.
>
> Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up.  It's mostly used at slow
> speed or it's idling while I'm nearby.  I'm guessing this is part of the
> problem.
>
> Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small
> runway.  I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, but I
> was wondering if there was a better way.
>
> SO, my questions are...
>
> Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue?
>
> Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

>
>
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Hmm. Maybe just a bad plug or a carbon track? Though low speeds and idling are things I'd try to avoid. > > BTW, Neil suggested an "Italian Service". I'm an Italian Jersey boy and I > never heard that term. I thought any service I did was Italian Service. 8>) > > What's an Italian Service (don't worry, you can't offend me.) I'm sure it's the same thing we did when we were teenagers and went out on the back roads to blow the carbon out.... _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 3 12:42:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880EC25864FE for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 12:42:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF4D2585AF8 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 09:17:54 -0600 (MDT) bh=Z3rUY1hQclxLeT1Efy2BoS/dmylRk4ucsIN/hCuysgE=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject; b=oOneAZb7qOj0rq6qcgbgrYBgEd0hdE/PskpssuahjmVFnr8WDQCi6E/nbC4tLnQc1 MfK986QjasI1nKfygFykfyakNIi+z7gJhYj3d3GJD7L0nZaLK/VhKxLEDM84KMfNi+ rKONr+IAlBUi7PooSQd1wUYe38oSIqdg9RTQGhjN1GdpTKJ2djoUIbATDNeMkQtQWe DjEUvCDC4id3XRgmfsaQ8jCBPZkbsSTEXYMlStcQZvu432dKvYrWJXzMNDiKdIH1mt qE2gk/8n+QWHywjxOEzMKvI7njYkzzlCxUD4CjuuiG2YW9I4ge3aEN0cabNTlsUeL6 M+SBd/22g5JsA== Authentication-Results: mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net smtp.user=strovato; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=jTihidCUsOtGAzglZBXHMA==:117 a=jTihidCUsOtGAzglZBXHMA==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=iEZWaKCLAAAA:8 a=3fZcEKcTGWu_lHvPLBIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=NnpD9uFvSewA:10 a=xuUpFaCR4q2luhOd9CAA:9 a=EiE03VYgGPy589pA:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=0rJpSBR2IEkCROgwrX0h:22 a=vGgPcN4G-ktUWJNYb7fx:22 Received: from [74.90.183.198] ([74.90.183.198:52809] helo=Steve-PC.optonline.net) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTPA id 40/75-17553-E9672F75; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 11:17:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 11:17:15 -0400 To: eric@megageek.com,Shop-talk@autox.team.net From: Steven Trovato References: Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1786681250983532180== boundary="=====================_250248613==.ALT" --=====================_250248613==.ALT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_tuneup At 09:24 AM 10/3/2016, eric@megageek.com wrote: >The spark plug looked normal, but the new one fixed the problem. > >BTW, Neil suggested an "Italian Service". I'm an Italian Jersey boy >and I never heard that term. I thought any service I did was >Italian Service. 8>) > >What's an Italian Service (don't worry, you can't offend me.) --=====================_250248613==.ALT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_tuneup

At 09:24 AM 10/3/2016, eric@megageek.com wrote:
The spark plug looked normal, but the new one fixed the problem.

BTW, Neil suggested an "Italian Service".  I'm an Italian Jersey boy and I never heard that term.  I thought any service I did was Italian Service. 8>)

What's an Italian Service (don't worry, you can't offend me.)
--=====================_250248613==.ALT-- --===============1786681250983532180== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1786681250983532180==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 3 13:05:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9133F25882C9 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 13:05:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from itonami.pair.com (itonami.pair.com [209.68.2.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F55B2588370 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 09:32:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by itonami.pair.com (Postfix, from userid 3198) id 61BC68FC96; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 11:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by itonami.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6124B8FC95; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 11:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 11:32:02 -0400 (EDT) From: David Hillman To: eric@megageek.com References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (BSF 1266 2009-07-14) Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Mon, 3 Oct 2016, eric@megageek.com wrote: > BTW, Neil suggested an "Italian Service". I'm an Italian Jersey boy and I > never heard that term. I thought any service I did was Italian Service. > 8>) > > What's an Italian Service (don't worry, you can't offend me.) Usually called an "Italian Tuneup", in my experience. The joke is, rich doctor/dentist/whatever leaves his Ferrari -- which he only drives in traffic at slow speeds -- with a very expensive Italian car specialty mechanic, and tells him it doesn't run right. Mechanic "test drives" it around town at 6000 rpm ( like the valets in Ferris Bueller ) and afterward, voila, it sings like it should again, and the wrench gets paid for doing what most would pay to do. -- David Hillman _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 3 14:25:03 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5F32588CED for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 14:25:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net (unknown [96.114.154.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F402588E16 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 10:29:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.235]) by resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id r65DbJThc1zBdr67Sb4cAX; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 16:29:34 +0000 Received: from Drews-Mac.local ([IPv6:2601:643:c100:c09:d43f:3f1a:d52b:64f3]) by resomta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id r67PbWDbU7NhPr67QbYcA2; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 16:29:34 +0000 To: eric@megageek.com, Shop-talk@autox.team.net References: From: Drew Rogge Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 09:30:48 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 7z2rlcs8Vhfo5EQo9TV3sAJBKrqJq6s7Yrzg1sT4pkPz21Py4y8ZktkmIyZLhI47Zh3c1+Vcq06ddQ== Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net do things get better if you close the choke some? that might mean that it's running lean and that could mean a clogged fuel line or carb. On 10/3/16 1:02 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote: > I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property. It's garage kept and I had it since it was new. (so it's well taken care of.) > > Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off (it has an auto clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.) A search on the web has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a new computer (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what works.) > > It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it. Problem is, it's starting to happen again just a few months later. > > Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up. It's mostly used at slow speed or it's idling while I'm nearby. I'm guessing this is part of the problem. > > Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small runway. I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, but I was wondering if there was a better way. > > SO, my questions are... > > Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue? > > Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening? > > Thanks in advance. > > > Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. > Eric P > "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/drew@dasrogges.com > -- Drew Rogge drew@dasrogges.com Phone: 8934OOO629OO4829631OOOOOOO _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 3 15:36:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7102585E06 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 15:36:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from Deep13.mail.Megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6512586011 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 11:26:24 -0600 (MDT) References: <4d066a64-a949-d309-cb4e-c12a3ead7864@DasRogges.com> To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net type=4; name=$KeepSent From: eric@megageek.com Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 13:26:31 -0400 2013) at 10/03/2016 01:26:38 PM, Serialize complete at 10/03/2016 01:26:38 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============2491404585842658633== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005FCF7A85258041_= Unfortunately, there is no manual choke on this. Darn automatic everything! 8>( Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson From: Drew Rogge To: eric@megageek.com, Shop-talk@autox.team.net Date: 10/03/2016 01:02 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem do things get better if you close the choke some? that might mean that it's running lean and that could mean a clogged fuel line or carb. On 10/3/16 1:02 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote: > I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property. It's garage kept and I had it since it was new. (so it's well taken care of.) > > Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off (it has an auto clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.) A search on the web has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a new computer (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what works.) > > It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it. Problem is, it's starting to happen again just a few months later. > > Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up. It's mostly used at slow speed or it's idling while I'm nearby. I'm guessing this is part of the problem. > > Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small runway. I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, but I was wondering if there was a better way. > > SO, my questions are... > > Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue? > > Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening? > > Thanks in advance. > > > Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. > Eric P > "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/drew@dasrogges.com > -- Drew Rogge drew@dasrogges.com Phone: 8934OOO629OO4829631OOOOOOO --=_alternative 005FCF7A85258041_= Unfortunately, there is no manual choke on this.  Darn automatic everything!  8>(


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson



From:        Drew Rogge <drew@DasRogges.com>
To:        eric@megageek.com, Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Date:        10/03/2016 01:02 PM
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem



do things get better if you close the choke some? that might mean that it's running lean and that could mean a clogged fuel line or carb.


On 10/3/16 1:02 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote:
> I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property.  It's garage kept and I had it since it was new.  (so it's well taken care of.)
>
> Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off  (it has an auto clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.)  A search on the web has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a new computer (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what works.)
>
> It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it.  Problem is, it's starting to happen again just a few months later.
>
> Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up.  It's mostly used at slow speed or it's idling while I'm nearby.  I'm guessing this is part of the problem.
>
> Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small runway.  I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, but I was wondering if there was a better way.
>
> SO, my questions are...
>
> Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue?
>
> Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
> Eric P
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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--=_alternative 005FCF7A85258041_=-- --===============2491404585842658633== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2491404585842658633==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 3 19:00:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A79D25878F4 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 19:00:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-5.talktalk.net (smtp-out-5.talktalk.net [62.24.135.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C401258587E for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2016 15:36:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.22] ([88.105.143.38]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP id rAu7bUPYTHGLwrAu8bIRJG; Mon, 03 Oct 2016 22:36:09 +0100 t=1475530569; bh=BUMKGZOL5YZuYcj3NhrmHCuToKhYPHglO4lsK1W5KIg=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Date:To; b=u1iVp7z17qZ68ouQ4bfihzpCuA5yCfNV15r8zJHOxoEfsLlfuPgS2rBHTnRxiD4qL f0r2+Gn6/MircTd9vBva9fmPKVRYxuVKPqdRH7cn++ALT9E7eNBO7TMI+GA8pBZXd+ mof4hYew78dp5hlATLPw1yC7oiLPdZsUgFrRg5eA= a=DV7vK6xZZV+2z86vwESVaQ==:17 a=iEZWaKCLAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=xJKLqxqfnBZFUHKjUskA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=UKUygSzIHjc-H5pcIS0A:9 a=8HWWwv0Rp8XpLlJr:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=vGgPcN4G-ktUWJNYb7fx:22 a=6kGIvZw6iX1k4Y-7sg4_:22 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=wQf5WvvPLwzY6UdiLRIz:22 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android References: From: Neil Sherry Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2016 22:34:29 +0100 To: eric@megageek.com,Shop-talk@autox.team.net TYqWY6v8aDF8qKPg+8U+/OsZASHZubOtmvNJ3GZgkhSa0FOcHeNzSwlwfhq8Yo5h5uIOLb52u3dcDR9uwEg5ehy7vcwPXS6qoi8= Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5594218191698870500== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ------2XTICGIV3QK7VBGVYG1N0QSO8HW28S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit charset=UTF-8 Taking it for a good, hard, pedal-to-the-metal thrash. Works wonders! On 3 October 2016 14:24:57 BST, eric@megageek.com wrote: >The spark plug looked normal, but the new one fixed the problem. > >BTW, Neil suggested an "Italian Service". I'm an Italian Jersey boy >and I >never heard that term. I thought any service I did was Italian >Service. >8>) > >What's an Italian Service (don't worry, you can't offend me.) > > >Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. >Eric P >"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a >rational >being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph >Waldo Emerson > > > >From: Jeff Scarbrough >To: eric@megageek.com >Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" >Date: 10/03/2016 08:38 AM >Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem > > > >What did the spark plug look like when you pulled it out? > >-- Jeff > >On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 4:02 AM, wrote: >> I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my >property. >> It's garage kept and I had it since it was new. (so it's well taken >care >> of.) >> >> Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off (it has >an >> auto clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.) A search >on >the >> web has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a >new >> computer (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what >works.) >> >> It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it. >Problem >is, >> it's starting to happen again just a few months later. >> >> Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up. It's mostly used at >slow >> speed or it's idling while I'm nearby. I'm guessing this is part of >the >> problem. >> >> Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a >small >> runway. I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, >but >I >> was wondering if there was a better way. >> >> SO, my questions are... >> >> Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue? >> >> Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> > >> >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ > >Shop-talk@autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.96 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/neiljsherry@talktalk.net -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ------2XTICGIV3QK7VBGVYG1N0QSO8HW28S charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Taking it for a good, hard, pedal-to-the-metal thrash. Works wonders!

On 3 October 2016 14:24:57 BST, eric@megageek.com wrote:
The spark plug looked normal, but the new one fixed the problem.

BTW, Neil suggested an "Italian Service".  I'm an Italian Jersey boy and I never heard that term.  I thought any service I did was Italian Service. 8>)

What's an Italian Service (don't worry, you can't offend me.)


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson



From:        Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
To:        eric@megageek.com
Cc:        "shop-talk@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date:        10/03/2016 08:38 AM
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem



What did the spark plug look like when you pulled it out?

-- Jeff

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 4:02 AM,  <eric@megageek.com> wrote:
> I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property.
> It's garage kept and I had it since it was new.  (so it's well taken care
> of.)
>
> Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off  (it has an
> auto clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.)  A search on the
> web has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a new
> computer (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what works.)
>
> It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it.  Problem is,
> it's starting to happen again just a few months later.
>
> Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up.  It's mostly used at slow
> speed or it's idling while I'm nearby.  I'm guessing this is part of the
> problem.
>
> Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small
> runway.  I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, but I
> was wondering if there was a better way.
>
> SO, my questions are...
>
> Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue?
>
> Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

>
>
 



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trying to find some information on the difference (if any ) in = automotive=20 stainless steel hard lines (-an fittings)  and industrial
stuff like swage-loc used for tubing and industrial = metering...
 
I=E2=80=99d thinking about running hard line stainless for my a/c = lines under the=20 hood of my truck and wondering if the industrial stuff
would substitute or adapt the the standard =E2=80=93an = stuff.   I have=20 some access to industrial and =E2=80=98pipefitter=E2=80=99 materials... = just don=E2=80=99t know
how it will work with auto industry =E2=80=98standard=E2=80=99 = =E2=80=93AN fittings... 
 
I know a little about each but only enough to confuse myself.
 
thanks
john
 
------=_NextPart_000_0551_01D227D2.49B8A9E0-- --===============0221475840472871554== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0221475840472871554==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 16 18:25:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53062588CF2 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 18:25:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4804A2586A1E for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 17:16:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.107]) by resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id vufnbtDXA84vjvufnbD5gb; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 23:16:55 +0000 s=q20140121; t=1476659815; bh=hhxZR9T+YuVOLF9SUry5OpQeQkm3/355GWQ7FRBU9a4=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=rZJDx89ZrzltBHI6iu8mTAE7HiUA9UzCqu54IxWtwswYwjWnBGfTGF6ubaEy4lrz6 HDe1X2rDGERBebRBJ9f5pYSIe7d/lbasJtIo5UlOpF7MI5guZpWkZQYJSPH0fZ1LuX +Y+bXp1EsJtMic79wO5yFu4sFa+GPuiEhdu2NdVT3FNZZKVqkZy1a+2nRlheQETNB8 W4kmYnHfqIT7NKeU8P87G9x0+g1nTosHX10K2npwNdu2w3QpWXGHlulk7GVhq2Kx+f JrCWXlWZ/6rCsGjOPkF84utNJbeXZZtHHCVOKnIkTE10AL5vdNXQMYM3asCNJQNwJM epW7n0leoQ/ag== Received: from resmail-ch2-791v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.51.62]) by resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id vufmbWcr2MaapvufmbVpxj; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 23:16:55 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 23:16:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Donald H Locker To: eric@megageek.com References: Thread-Topic: Engine idling problem Thread-Index: jYmRkAMfx6wQp24AeKp9YWYAIglRmg== olW+Afc1PKp48I6qaLqvD5U8zuiIMTTu/JcqSv9bjcB0GMpahBfDROZ44zG4fgfQ59pA4dZ+yQwgIgM1ngaYy7awI4ruLHjGvnwtSgusiZEiR6M5aamEGA+6 Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Try putting a few drops of acetone per gallon of gasoline in the fuel. Mix well, serve at room temperature. HTH, Donald. ----- Original Message ----- > From: eric@megageek.com > To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 4:02:06 AM > Subject: [Shop-talk] Engine idling problem > > I have a 2009 Kawasaki KingQuad 750 that I use for work on my property. It's > garage kept and I had it since it was new. (so it's well taken care of.) > > Recently, I've had a problem with it starting and taking off (it has an auto > clutch and it dies when I try to put it under power.) A search on the web > has these problems listed from anything from a spark plug to a new computer > (and none seems to have enough followup to let me know what works.) > > It got really bad and a new battery and plug seemed to fix it. Problem is, > it's starting to happen again just a few months later. > > Now, I really don't ever open the throttle up. It's mostly used at slow speed > or it's idling while I'm nearby. I'm guessing this is part of the problem. > > Since it's such a beast, opening it up full throttle would take a small > runway. I did make a race track in one of my fields to run it more, but I > was wondering if there was a better way. > > SO, my questions are... > > Is it my low speed/idling use that is causing the issue? > > Is there something else I can do to keep it from happening? > > Thanks in advance. > > > Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. > Eric P > "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational > being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo > Emerson > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dhlocker@comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 20 15:46:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7032585EEA for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 15:46:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from Deep13.mail.Megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06292588BF6 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 15:17:21 -0600 (MDT) To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net type=4; name=$KeepSent From: eric@megageek.com Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 17:17:40 -0400 10/20/2016 05:17:49 PM, Serialize complete at 10/20/2016 05:17:49 PM Subject: [Shop-talk] Trailer storage idea Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0622621637676614451== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0074FB6685258052_= I have an idea that I was wondering if anyone could let me know their opinion. I have a large dual axle car trailer. I store it in a building and I need a fork-lift to maneuver it into it's storage space. I was wonder if I could use a set of car dollies (the ones that go under the tires) to pull the trailer straight back onto them and the manually push the trailer laterally into it's spot so I wouldn't need to use the fork-lift. Here are my concerns... 1 Getting the trailer on and off the dollies (do I need to jack it up or can I drive them on them.) 2 What is a good set of dollies? (I only need to move it laterally, so I don't need a set with casters, just the ones with the rollers should be fine.) 3 Finally, the building has an asphalt floor. I would imagine that the rollers would sink into them. So I would need to get them on a wood plank. What is the minimum thickest of plank to prevent sinking, but easy enough to roll the trailer onto? Thanks! Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 0074FB6685258052_= I have an idea that I was wondering if anyone could let me know their opinion.  

I have a large dual axle car trailer.  I store it in a building and I need a fork-lift to maneuver it into it's storage space.

I was wonder if I could use a set of car dollies (the ones that go under the tires) to pull the trailer straight back onto them and the manually push the trailer laterally into it's spot so I wouldn't need to use the fork-lift.

Here are my concerns...

1 Getting the trailer on and off the dollies (do I need to jack it up or can I drive them on them.)

2 What is a good set of dollies?  (I only need to move it laterally, so I don't need a set with casters, just the ones with the rollers should be fine.)

3 Finally, the building has an asphalt floor.  I would imagine that the rollers would sink into them.  So I would need to get them on a wood plank.  What is the minimum thickest of plank to prevent sinking, but easy enough to roll the trailer onto?


Thanks!


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 0074FB6685258052_=-- --===============0622621637676614451== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0622621637676614451==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 20 17:11:21 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA272589547 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 17:11:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-it0-f54.google.com (mail-it0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F6D258986F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:44:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-it0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 139so187256120itm.1 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 15:45:04 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1x3obbFCxrIWq42DiZuawnRDBhh4eodo1bKvNBFDYPQ=; b=tHjjLGSgtwElU/F2tXhdP5L113bPQ3JNRgC3XaseJE3VTg4GBMtXB9vvmJmXoAjJUj iCEfwGCut40JRWsYs0nvEG5SRfpFch0YVZHq+W5xEV6cNJKQ9pP2gDrL/23T2JoVqyS0 MitRdKqnclvteOsvmK7PgG2aYqJ98FBZtYnFZKQ/lczCgBKIfXOkIPYqLCAmqYqt1jBG vfSA99DLcmkmOnaUt3ot4BdRRTtd78GuizFQTTTTSKmyW50xDuJeWHLy5z087aMeSXu5 w47BJMP+jFNwVAtwEsA27Daq7oLei9tditDTksmMYsTek0/cGozGjGb6kE89BtIdx+U+ 8biQ== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1x3obbFCxrIWq42DiZuawnRDBhh4eodo1bKvNBFDYPQ=; b=SGl7ILCXPjlSuXJ/tWUovohNMIPBNP+iKUXb+JQgE+47Wms+hIEnUhloqlZ39ssWt3 MXNyRKBbEtU7JvU3F1EouxSwG5HYSj1gNn8d41C4Ft9QxQAeEXkm7XFK5/IMJxCDybd4 yca8O0KyELL9hPQ4jLD3Fo7UsIiL2YS0OMw1sfiAMSHkCmxzsdjWqqnxV6JCkRVh2dF+ cyBY0KqEyR2UhjH2G5qqbkuaBwhyMR7uwsOI4i4SdK7+VZ4I+g3DF12S5bQDlJ8sNL7v OvlGs6jAjmTKEA7PXP/IzOxruaEwWhbnQeYhtuCgtBvmzwo+waIP/uswISS4h2yTsNmS 1CYA== Thu, 20 Oct 2016 15:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.113.97 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 15:44:57 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Jeff Scarbrough Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 18:44:57 -0400 To: eric@megageek.com Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Trailer storage idea Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Eric, I don't know the details of how the trailer is maneuvered with the forklift, but we had a "walker" for our travel trailer to fit it into a tight storage spot. I can't find a picture, but it was like two upside-down soup bowls connected on the top (bottom of the "bowl") by square tubing. In the middle of the square tubing was a hitch ball. A long pole fit in one end of the tubing. By manipulating the pole, you could walk the two bowl "feet" and maneuver the trailer. And then there's the two-wheel gadgets, like this: http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/MaxxTow/MT70225.html Still need to go to all that trouble? Can you stick one corner where it will end up, put a jack stand under it, and use a jack on the other end to swing it in place? Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, wrote: > I have an idea that I was wondering if anyone could let me know their > opinion. > > I have a large dual axle car trailer. I store it in a building and I need a > fork-lift to maneuver it into it's storage space. > > I was wonder if I could use a set of car dollies (the ones that go under the > tires) to pull the trailer straight back onto them and the manually push the > trailer laterally into it's spot so I wouldn't need to use the fork-lift. > > Here are my concerns... > > 1 Getting the trailer on and off the dollies (do I need to jack it up or can > I drive them on them.) > > 2 What is a good set of dollies? (I only need to move it laterally, so I > don't need a set with casters, just the ones with the rollers should be > fine.) > > 3 Finally, the building has an asphalt floor. I would imagine that the > rollers would sink into them. So I would need to get them on a wood plank. > What is the minimum thickest of plank to prevent sinking, but easy enough to > roll the trailer onto? > > > Thanks! > > > Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. > Eric P > "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational > being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo > Emerson > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 20 17:37:52 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F632588EB5 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 17:37:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (unknown [167.206.4.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4002587BFB for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 17:19:11 -0600 (MDT) bh=Ghg9HR8kKwYj38aTqJ7OYoDeab3JQ5CkOowELENYPH4=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject; b=elkpFuwEbzvKHmpci59YlNJbQI8YVEGe5qcLuLzEBsawYZZfVXIU+pIrLi3DL/1pO 6Zv6h/fh7AUfmtJvivcKL1OVihTI+cjr8iokyg/bqVwdGdHjrfLAOJAyY7Zwxsi4+D AWOaj1JO+P8U3awXg2OKAn2ARqKoAR+ZkwlVbz3yaWvFvetfKZr26o1OtApnRen5ei fctRHVwpinTNv5IpbAHLqWFD9lM0xITZQbUxMTYqc/rwIlLvvIlIAHAi1LQWIPF6OO kLiPFE5ZGdaSzVDJFJLQp6uul4B16ph/1vo4ZK+gZBTXXEyjpwXSDObHWir/DO+gzf XmhfEaYJtCkIA== Authentication-Results: mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net smtp.user=strovato; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=jTihidCUsOtGAzglZBXHMA==:117 a=jTihidCUsOtGAzglZBXHMA==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=qktwJq4hAAAA:8 a=iEZWaKCLAAAA:8 a=Js5qrdOmAgsTnxMevL4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=d4dsOY6_-DAA:10 a=YGsPa_EajX0A:10 a=Rv0WogbgPi_6JwolhnwA:9 a=JLCNJytEKnQeaslo:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=0CA7D-RTES95-rHXWHvk:22 a=vGgPcN4G-ktUWJNYb7fx:22 Received: from [74.90.183.198] ([74.90.183.198:4061] helo=Steve-PC.optonline.net) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTPA id AC/E1-11926-4F059085; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 19:19:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 19:18:34 -0400 To: eric@megageek.com,Shop-talk@autox.team.net From: Steven Trovato Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Trailer storage idea Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2511434369973682978== boundary="=====================_621489653==.ALT" --=====================_621489653==.ALT I don't know of any car dollies that you can drive onto. The only ones I know of that don't require jacking are go-jaks and their clones. Go-jaks are great, but expensive. They, and all of the dollies I am familiar with, have casters. I have never heard of dollies with rollers. An asphalt floor would definitely be a problem for most dollies with casters. Any with high quality casters are awesome on a truly flat concrete floor. As the floor surface gets rougher, they get much harder to use. Note, I said high quality casters. Many dollies come with terrible casters, especially any of the cheap Chinese ones. For boat trailers I have used jacks like this: https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack/Dutton-Lainson/DL22300.html I have considered mounting another pair at the rear end of the trailer for maneuvering in situations like yours. I haven't ever tried it, though. They aren't too expensive, though, if you want to give that a try. My trailer is open. This may not make sense for an enclosed trailer. People have been maneuvering trailers and cars using floor jacks for ages. Of course, that doesn't work too well on a rough surface either. -Steve At 05:17 PM 10/20/2016, eric@megageek.com wrote: >I have an idea that I was wondering if anyone could let me know >their opinion. > >I have a large dual axle car trailer. I store it in a building and >I need a fork-lift to maneuver it into it's storage space. > >I was wonder if I could use a set of car dollies (the ones that go >under the tires) to pull the trailer straight back onto them and the >manually push the trailer laterally into it's spot so I wouldn't >need to use the fork-lift. > >Here are my concerns... > >1 Getting the trailer on and off the dollies (do I need to jack it >up or can I drive them on them.) > >2 What is a good set of dollies? (I only need to move it laterally, >so I don't need a set with casters, just the ones with the rollers >should be fine.) > >3 Finally, the building has an asphalt floor. I would imagine that >the rollers would sink into them. So I would need to get them on a >wood plank. What is the minimum thickest of plank to prevent >sinking, but easy enough to roll the trailer onto? --=====================_621489653==.ALT I don't know of any car dollies that you can drive onto.  The only ones I know of that don't require jacking are go-jaks and their clones.  Go-jaks are great, but expensive.  They, and all of the dollies I am familiar with, have casters.  I have never heard of dollies with rollers.  An asphalt floor would definitely be a problem for most dollies with casters.  Any with high quality casters are awesome on a truly flat concrete floor.  As the floor surface gets rougher, they get much harder to use.  Note, I said high quality casters.  Many dollies come with terrible casters, especially any of the cheap Chinese ones. 

For boat trailers I have used jacks like this: 

https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack/Dutton-Lainson/DL22300.html

I have considered mounting another pair at the rear end of the trailer for maneuvering in situations like yours.  I haven't ever tried it, though.  They aren't too expensive, though, if you want to give that a try.  My trailer is open.  This may not make sense for an enclosed trailer. 

People have been maneuvering trailers and cars using floor jacks for ages.  Of course, that doesn't work too well on a rough surface either. 

-Steve

At 05:17 PM 10/20/2016, eric@megageek.com wrote:
I have an idea that I was wondering if anyone could let me know their opinion. 

I have a large dual axle car trailer.  I store it in a building and I need a fork-lift to maneuver it into it's storage space.

I was wonder if I could use a set of car dollies (the ones that go under the tires) to pull the trailer straight back onto them and the manually push the trailer laterally into it's spot so I wouldn't need to use the fork-lift.

Here are my concerns...

1 Getting the trailer on and off the dollies (do I need to jack it up or can I drive them on them.)

2 What is a good set of dollies?  (I only need to move it laterally, so I don't need a set with casters, just the ones with the rollers should be fine.)

3 Finally, the building has an asphalt floor.  I would imagine that the rollers would sink into them.  So I would need to get them on a wood plank.  What is the minimum thickest of plank to prevent sinking, but easy enough to roll the trailer onto?
--=====================_621489653==.ALT-- --===============2511434369973682978== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2511434369973682978==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 20 18:48:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CEC2588F7D for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 18:48:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.62.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5862588F46 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 17:38:15 -0600 (MDT) t=1477006694; bh=C0hfE6Kb79noNISc3E3GwRevfV+ACf3xzlYeS5WA8dM=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=gsNdbIM846Me4GDQsE0kwim9T716ql7kdwdTu1/SYlTykWyvudF3PWkQr2KCDeV0soth5qk9ZwoSx3wx7o2puYcg2R2WcoSn8fyeD3dL+lbfRP3QnjX19PKEsGU1QfYdA7Ie4eF72ym35WDJ3croagYPdVMu/IZEgBDLwV6IvKs= Received: from [216.39.60.176] by nm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Oct 2016 23:38:14 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.113] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Oct 2016 23:38:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Oct 2016 23:38:14 -0000 M5HXuToVUDhMyQSPHrLNVRitDTnrWGUUIh.2U.fls3gG7U0.x4pJo8iyw7Ho BnSN9BRP7XL5bMWADkxgymgsFjTBR82yv3buzWKo3W7pkgaxMRnpj5htl_VT CYsBIFPdXv37mCXh1yiajqVH8axTYlW6Lh2Xl63MELvR1275KMhpYrJLN7pH ZeSzoX9dcOE.TVBqi2ItvILlIthZRzNigqvillYA2Apj.iMa1cd1Ah52VhdM xaoOq6NuQI18kohNvqaAcPIKLqYK9iIEn2_wsuzbW8DmVdzLSYs9aSj_DyeH G5ZFEZVjCJTbYQSezVcc19wM_QLrP2mtFtqskxtNzSt0Lck02fNKGtBwTqsB yGZ2m5bEGPshZFgOHms.pjp1oBvbaPy846SvKJuu4X7EQddCSc2..tltBUcD pql.WWpoBQ1taVwP36OcyED5JlHXP.QT_3U9HcUvzZW36H5O1tL1YugtwGso 2956xis2m_TddIippS1eSbaiAc98XD0QiW4qUSoNojRg_6UYlWBpOAA-- From: "john niolon" To: , "shop-talk" References: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 18:38:15 -0500 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Trailer storage idea Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1457189651418769670== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_087B_01D22B01.1F4AE790" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_087B_01D22B01.1F4AE790 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eric, never seen a set of dollies without casters and everyone = I=E2=80=99ve seen used, you had to jack the wheel up and slide the dolly = under it...never seen any drive on. there is one set that is more = expensive that has built in jacks=20 http://www.bendpak.com/shop-equipment/carts-and-dollies/rcd-1500.aspx. = I would imagine with 4 wheels it=E2=80=99s more trouble to jack them up = with one wheel raising and one lowering... guess it would depend on how = often you want to do this...=20 the asphalt is another matter also... depending on the weight of the = trailer, the dolly wheels would probably settle in. More things to do = laying down planks or plywood. I=E2=80=99d say 1/2-3/4=E2=80=9D plywood = would be easiest. Mine are harbor freight... cheap... but the wheels = suck... cast iron with no bearings or bushings. I swapped them out for = ball bearing wheels of hard plastic and it make 200% difference. I=E2=80=99ve moved lots of trailers from 6=E2=80=99 to 40=E2=80=99 = around the shop with a fork lift and a ball on a piece of rectangular = tubing that fits the forks... on a concrete floor... once you get your = steering thinking backwards it=E2=80=99s easy... but it=E2=80=99s a big = shop. At one time I could turn around a 40=E2=80=99 inside the shop in = a three point turn... too much crap in there now to do it... use the = drive thru doors !!! another idea... build a lean-too adjacent to shop to hold the trailer = !!! problem solved with more shop space. john From: eric@megageek.com=20 Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 4:17 PM To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net=20 Subject: [Shop-talk] Trailer storage idea I have an idea that I was wondering if anyone could let me know their = opinion. =20 I have a large dual axle car trailer. I store it in a building and I = need a fork-lift to maneuver it into it's storage space.=20 I was wonder if I could use a set of car dollies (the ones that go under = the tires) to pull the trailer straight back onto them and the manually = push the trailer laterally into it's spot so I wouldn't need to use the = fork-lift.=20 Here are my concerns...=20 1 Getting the trailer on and off the dollies (do I need to jack it up or = can I drive them on them.)=20 2 What is a good set of dollies? (I only need to move it laterally, so = I don't need a set with casters, just the ones with the rollers should = be fine.)=20 3 Finally, the building has an asphalt floor. I would imagine that the = rollers would sink into them. So I would need to get them on a wood = plank. What is the minimum thickest of plank to prevent sinking, but = easy enough to roll the trailer onto?=20 Thanks!=20 Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a = rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your = territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jniolon@att.net ------=_NextPart_000_087B_01D22B01.1F4AE790 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Eric, never seen a set of dollies without casters and everyone = I=E2=80=99ve seen=20 used, you had to jack the wheel up and slide the dolly under it...never = seen any=20 drive on.   there is one set that is more expensive that has = built in=20 jacks
http://www.bendpak.com/shop-equipment/carts-and-dollies/rcd-1500.as= px.  =20 I would imagine with 4 wheels it=E2=80=99s more trouble to jack them up = with one wheel=20 raising and one lowering...  guess it would depend on how often you = want to=20 do this...
 
the asphalt is another matter also... depending on the weight of = the=20 trailer, the dolly wheels would probably settle in. More things to do = laying=20 down planks or plywood. I=E2=80=99d say 1/2-3/4=E2=80=9D plywood would = be easiest.  Mine=20 are harbor freight... cheap... but the wheels suck... cast iron with no = bearings=20 or bushings.  I swapped them out for ball bearing wheels of hard = plastic=20 and it make 200% difference.
 
I=E2=80=99ve moved lots of trailers from 6=E2=80=99 to 40=E2=80=99 = around the shop with a fork lift=20 and a ball on a piece of rectangular tubing that fits the forks... on a = concrete=20 floor...  once you get your steering thinking backwards = it=E2=80=99s easy... but=20 it=E2=80=99s a big shop.  At one time I could turn around a = 40=E2=80=99 inside the shop in=20 a three point turn... too much crap in there now to do it... use the = drive thru=20 doors !!!
 
another idea... build a lean-too adjacent to shop to hold the = trailer !!!=20 problem solved with more shop space.
 
john
 
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I have an idea that I was wondering if anyone = could let=20 me know their opinion. 

I have=20 a large dual axle car trailer.  I store it in a building and I need = a=20 fork-lift to maneuver it into it's storage space.

I was wonder if I could use a set of car dollies (the = ones that=20 go under the tires) to pull the trailer straight back onto them and the = manually=20 push the trailer laterally into it's spot so I wouldn't need to use the=20 fork-lift.

Here are my=20 concerns...

1 Getting = the trailer on=20 and off the dollies (do I need to jack it up or can I drive them on=20 them.)

2 What is a good = set of=20 dollies?  (I only need to move it laterally, so I don't need a set = with=20 casters, just the ones with the rollers should be fine.) =

3 Finally, the building has an asphalt = floor.  I=20 would imagine that the rollers would sink into them.  So I would = need to=20 get them on a wood plank.  What is the minimum thickest of plank to = prevent=20 sinking, but easy enough to roll the trailer onto? =


Thanks!


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------=_NextPart_000_087B_01D22B01.1F4AE790-- --===============1457189651418769670== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1457189651418769670==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 20 19:08:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8EC25896F7 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 19:08:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from Deep13.mail.Megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B712588242 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 18:09:52 -0600 (MDT) To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net type=4; name=$KeepSent From: eric@megageek.com Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:10:17 -0400 10/20/2016 08:10:20 PM, Serialize complete at 10/20/2016 08:10:20 PM Subject: [Shop-talk] Fw: Trailer storage idea Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============1893111601405105018== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0000F2DC85258053_= Jeff, thanks for the reply. I do have one of the wheeled dollies. The problem is with a dual axle trailer, (and mine is pretty heavy) there is no hope at all to turn it by hand. I use a hitch ball mounted on the end of the forklift tine to push the trailer in place. Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson ----- Forwarded by Eric Petrevich/Megageek on 10/20/2016 08:08 PM ----- From: Jeff Scarbrough To: eric@megageek.com Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Date: 10/20/2016 06:45 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Trailer storage idea Eric, I don't know the details of how the trailer is maneuvered with the forklift, but we had a "walker" for our travel trailer to fit it into a tight storage spot. I can't find a picture, but it was like two upside-down soup bowls connected on the top (bottom of the "bowl") by square tubing. In the middle of the square tubing was a hitch ball. A long pole fit in one end of the tubing. By manipulating the pole, you could walk the two bowl "feet" and maneuver the trailer. And then there's the two-wheel gadgets, like this: http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/MaxxTow/MT70225.html Still need to go to all that trouble? Can you stick one corner where it will end up, put a jack stand under it, and use a jack on the other end to swing it in place? Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. > --=_alternative 0000F2DC85258053_= Jeff, thanks for the reply.  I do have one of the wheeled dollies.  The problem is with a dual axle trailer, (and mine is pretty heavy) there is no hope at all to turn it by hand.  I use a hitch ball mounted on the end of the forklift tine to push the trailer in place.

Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson
----- Forwarded by Eric Petrevich/Megageek on 10/20/2016 08:08 PM -----

From:        Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
To:        eric@megageek.com
Cc:        "shop-talk@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date:        10/20/2016 06:45 PM
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Trailer storage idea



Eric,

I don't know the details of how the trailer is maneuvered with the
forklift, but we had a "walker" for our travel trailer to fit it into
a tight storage spot.  I can't find a picture, but it was like two
upside-down soup bowls connected on the top (bottom of the "bowl") by
square tubing.  In the middle of the square tubing was a hitch ball.
A long pole fit in one end of the tubing.  By manipulating the pole,
you could walk the two bowl "feet" and maneuver the trailer.

And then there's the two-wheel gadgets, like this:
http://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Accessories/MaxxTow/MT70225.html

Still need to go to all that trouble?  Can you stick one corner where
it will end up, put a jack stand under it, and use a jack on the other
end to swing it in place?

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.


>
 --=_alternative 0000F2DC85258053_=-- --===============1893111601405105018== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1893111601405105018==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 20 19:33:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339732589749 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 19:33:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from Deep13.mail.Megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36EE2585691 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 18:26:38 -0600 (MDT) To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net type=4; name=$KeepSent From: eric@megageek.com Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:26:58 -0400 10/20/2016 08:27:01 PM, Serialize complete at 10/20/2016 08:27:01 PM Subject: [Shop-talk] Fw: Trailer storage idea Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============6300603870100453356== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00027A1085258053_= DING DING DING, we have winner! The Go-jacks solve the problem of the tires sinking because I can 'release' them once the trailer is in place. The only problem is, there are different models and styles of these things (not to mention lots of competitors with identical models) Which one do I get? Where is a good place to buy these from? I looked for pics of ones with rollers and I can't find them. Ironically, I sold a pair a few years ago before I thought of using them this way. Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson ----- Forwarded by Eric Petrevich/Megageek on 10/20/2016 08:24 PM ----- From: Steven Trovato To: eric@megageek.com, Shop-talk@autox.team.net Date: 10/20/2016 07:19 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Trailer storage idea I don't know of any car dollies that you can drive onto. The only ones I know of that don't require jacking are go-jaks and their clones. Go-jaks are great, but expensive. They, and all of the dollies I am familiar with, have casters. I have never heard of dollies with rollers. An asphalt floor would definitely be a problem for most dollies with casters. Any with high quality casters are awesome on a truly flat concrete floor. As the floor surface gets rougher, they get much harder to use. Note, I said high quality casters. Many dollies come with terrible casters, especially any of the cheap Chinese ones. For boat trailers I have used jacks like this: https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack/Dutton-Lainson/DL22300.html I have considered mounting another pair at the rear end of the trailer for maneuvering in situations like yours. I haven't ever tried it, though. They aren't too expensive, though, if you want to give that a try. My trailer is open. This may not make sense for an enclosed trailer. People have been maneuvering trailers and cars using floor jacks for ages. Of course, that doesn't work too well on a rough surface either. -Steve --=_alternative 00027A1085258053_= DING DING DING, we have winner!  The Go-jacks solve the problem of the tires sinking because I can 'release' them once the trailer is in place.

The only problem is, there are different models and styles of these things (not to mention lots of competitors with identical models)

Which one do I get?  Where is a good place to buy these from?

I looked for pics of ones with rollers and I can't find them.  Ironically, I sold a pair a few years ago before I thought of using them this way.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson
----- Forwarded by Eric Petrevich/Megageek on 10/20/2016 08:24 PM -----

From:        Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>
To:        eric@megageek.com, Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Date:        10/20/2016 07:19 PM
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Trailer storage idea



I don't know of any car dollies that you can drive onto.  The only ones I know of that don't require jacking are go-jaks and their clones.  Go-jaks are great, but expensive.  They, and all of the dollies I am familiar with, have casters.  I have never heard of dollies with rollers.  An asphalt floor would definitely be a problem for most dollies with casters.  Any with high quality casters are awesome on a truly flat concrete floor.  As the floor surface gets rougher, they get much harder to use.  Note, I said high quality casters.  Many dollies come with terrible casters, especially any of the cheap Chinese ones.  

For boat trailers I have used jacks like this:  

https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack/Dutton-Lainson/DL22300.html

I have considered mounting another pair at the rear end of the trailer for maneuvering in situations like yours.  I haven't ever tried it, though.  They aren't too expensive, though, if you want to give that a try.  My trailer is open.  This may not make sense for an enclosed trailer.  

People have been maneuvering trailers and cars using floor jacks for ages.  Of course, that doesn't work too well on a rough surface either.  

-Steve

 --=_alternative 00027A1085258053_=-- --===============6300603870100453356== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6300603870100453356==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 20 21:40:12 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A032589237 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 21:40:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from qopa.pair.com (qopa.pair.com [209.68.5.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430512589093 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 21:31:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AMILAPTOP3 (pool-68-133-11-106.bflony.fios.verizon.net [68.133.11.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by qopa.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F3AD5F1E5C; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 23:31:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Tony Vaccaro" To: , References: Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 23:31:26 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHSKz0Im5Q6JVeCbEeaMGY6AH0RfKCyQHxA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fw: Trailer storage idea Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============1087113691495393434== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01D22B2A.13C42C50" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01D22B2A.13C42C50 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No business or personal connection here, but I always buy my GoJacks from www.awdirect.com Tony V ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01D22B2A.13C42C50 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

No business or personal connection here, but I always buy my GoJacks = from

www.awdirect.com

 

 

Tony V

------=_NextPart_000_000B_01D22B2A.13C42C50-- --===============1087113691495393434== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1087113691495393434==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 20 22:03:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EDD258936A for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 22:03:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from qopa.pair.com (qopa.pair.com [209.68.5.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C52925892AB for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 21:45:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from AMILAPTOP3 (pool-68-133-11-106.bflony.fios.verizon.net [68.133.11.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by qopa.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8459F1E3F for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 23:45:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Tony Vaccaro" To: References: <000a01d22b4b$9ad55720$d0800560$@lotusowners.com> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 23:45:33 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHSKz0Im5Q6JVeCbEeaMGY6AH0RfKCyQHxAgAAD8aA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fw: Trailer storage idea Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============5891008184526262811== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01D22B2C.0D093BB0" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01D22B2C.0D093BB0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just another quick note. I have not bought GoJacks in quite a few years. Pre Amazon.com Just checked on Amazon and they are cheaper there from different vendors. And I have used and bought their imitators, I have not had much success with those. But that was years ago. Give Griots Garage a try. They use to have a set like GoJacks and he guarantees his stuff. If you don't like it or they break, he makes it good. Again, no connection with Griots, just that I have had good service from them Tony V From: Shop-talk [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Vaccaro Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 11:31 PM To: eric@megageek.com; Shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fw: Trailer storage idea No business or personal connection here, but I always buy my GoJacks from www.awdirect.com Tony V ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01D22B2C.0D093BB0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just = another quick note. I have not bought GoJacks in quite a few years. Pre = Amazon.com

Just checked on Amazon and they are cheaper there from different = vendors.

And I have used and bought their imitators, I have not had much success = with those. But that was years ago.

Give Griots Garage a try. They use to have a set like GoJacks and he = guarantees his stuff. If you don’t like it or they break, he makes = it good.

Again, no connection with Griots, just that I have had good service = from them

 

Tony V

 

 

From:<= /b> = Shop-talk [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of = Tony Vaccaro
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 11:31 = PM
To: eric@megageek.com; = Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fw: Trailer = storage idea

 

 

No business or personal connection here, but I always buy my GoJacks = from

www.awdirect.com

 

 

Tony V

------=_NextPart_000_001A_01D22B2C.0D093BB0-- --===============5891008184526262811== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5891008184526262811==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 21 02:44:08 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2142585D87 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2016 02:44:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yw0-f173.google.com (mail-yw0-f173.google.com [209.85.161.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C19258904B for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2016 02:40:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yw0-f173.google.com with SMTP id t192so85040822ywf.0 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2016 01:40:34 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=FycuQTaMc/NJLYDp4xiFNvY9FfOxFTS9rJLGqSwjV14=; b=ati6su47F17lzPpBTHprgQC7ukVDd4RflDpPbVZS3Nx1BQyfE16naFQF1JqeVbu66N SFInh1GhIDfZxoZDLh3slCI47tKrzb1eKkfagXnNHIX1XKZIWQkoyIqwxrOVrMudUZlz ePepkip14zYksgvJEZ1Dg+AhPwI9vWJ5hl+LwpT6TjqxiD0SC8IBPuIuZJjzt5knWfDx 9b/LnBYIzelW8obWQ44Sgrv9MnCFcJPPOEOGUYYQfHknmRwfF2QYHwRGP+Wp38Kog1sr IlOej2QIWNaKdYvl9PD9vykwkPhj0InfcFIMzO8R1LLJvo8Wq2QcQdcvcftGndMDP+Fs v5OQ== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=FycuQTaMc/NJLYDp4xiFNvY9FfOxFTS9rJLGqSwjV14=; b=Zlp8etHr8R6N782D+eTrf/z/eiGQOPZM/ggNXmuKqC0uoEoVNkzyJIgbKlR0VaA+aR erxfmsYkze4TO7gSbpMYb1XQUYdn0epdB0AF/+8ykDOS6brRJq4gdKdmHfjY5g53gBXs tuHgCEG19tfK+3EhcoaJV1O8ITIp8Cg9jifPm0mpreyaOH07K6nXAyfuvVWELPksbMhD jA5KggC5OoSwAS1iYeM12C/CUXtpfuy0CJfa1YSgdbWqVqJ1p7dML8Tq2y75knUehq0E GnDXwJSRUGkU71v9tP+dGGO4SNDkGAY0xyrkFqROeaSkruqlahEgjnTLzLWWJtTEO46j HXyQ== Fri, 21 Oct 2016 01:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.113.97 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Oct 2016 01:40:33 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Jeff Scarbrough Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 04:40:33 -0400 To: eric@megageek.com Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fw: Trailer storage idea Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:26 PM, wrote: > DING DING DING, we have winner! The Go-jacks solve the problem of the tires > sinking because I can 'release' them once the trailer is in place. Can you save 50% by securing one axle in place while it's on the ground? Chain it up or something? Then when you lift the trailer by the other axle, it will come up with it. You'd only need two wheel jacks instead of four. You just need a flag on the chain so you remember to remove it when you get ready to pull the trailer... Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 30 16:10:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB4525892DB for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 16:10:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from Deep13.mail.Megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B7E2588954 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:12:59 -0600 (MDT) To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net type=4; name=$KeepSent From: eric@megageek.com Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 17:13:09 -0400 10/30/2016 05:13:35 PM, Serialize complete at 10/30/2016 05:13:35 PM Subject: [Shop-talk] Vehicle wheel dollies follow up Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============5419893337496344207== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 007494498525805C_= A few weeks ago I asked about the wheel dollies and got some great answers. I spoke with a buddy of mine today that told me the Harbor Freight ones were nearly identical to the go-wheels one. Then he stated there was a super coupon for them for $70 a piece. I got home and checked my recent catalog and there they were. I just ordered 4 of them for total (with shipping and tax) of $304. I'll let you know how they work when I get them. The coupon is actually for Black friday, but when I called I just stated that my local store doesn't normally carry 4 at a time. They gave me the price now, over the phone. I should have them before black friday, so I hope I can tell you how they work before then. BTW, the coupon is for ... item # 62234 61917 the bar code is 52896280 Here is the link to the normal priced item here... http://www.harborfreight.com/1250-lb-capacity-vehicle-positioning-wheel-dolly-61917.html Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Tech Viper "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 007494498525805C_= A few weeks ago I asked about the wheel dollies and got some great answers.

I spoke with a buddy of mine today that told me the Harbor Freight ones were nearly identical to the go-wheels one.  Then he stated there was a super coupon for them for $70 a piece.

I got home and checked my recent catalog and there they were.

I just ordered 4 of them for total (with shipping and tax) of $304.  

I'll let you know how they work when I get them.

The coupon is actually for Black friday, but when I called I just stated that my local store doesn't normally carry 4 at a time.  They gave me the price now, over the phone.  I should have them before black friday, so I hope I can tell you how they work before then.

BTW, the coupon is for ...
 
item # 62234 61917  the bar code is 52896280

Here is the link to the normal priced item here...

http://www.harborfreight.com/1250-lb-capacity-vehicle-positioning-wheel-dolly-61917.html


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Tech Viper
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 007494498525805C_=-- --===============5419893337496344207== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5419893337496344207==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 31 21:37:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036B12588B95 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2016 21:37:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vk0-f44.google.com (mail-vk0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9808B2589A66 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2016 17:10:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vk0-f44.google.com with SMTP id p9so15344898vkd.3 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2016 16:10:43 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nxSqpaPR0tYDNh3VkzEXFaZMJObtmD32QWVPe0rQ5KM=; b=x5404TmJuY4hlNs0X+OfNEkaCzJ/vFfyq6hUTHz9/FtzVMeOZUAfezJwiG3AY2NHuW 4Ad/DdWEr7UzSdl+ygRf3y1PFn//mKR27YGuIw6pqiPGldDO9r77l+RYtxRffZV4ECHf vGwctQR5lZey0c+PsbyMn5xuiFrkV5ueVlkAgT2Tqt/xeYGIdSjKPVhhXAgGtzxgvn+n vmmnT10BvkLYYrt4t1zfvLdiQeR7Y7pkBZI3+moHbKJXRaYPq4Y0D/e+guvSJjWSuLpg 3Xjeruz8uXoCdcuj2Zcr6iMRzbFXuwJArLNTulcbRRHHLrz+UlaOCTw2q+EUWYooFpxt xR1g== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nxSqpaPR0tYDNh3VkzEXFaZMJObtmD32QWVPe0rQ5KM=; b=jlXQml6YD08KQpG47T4fmIRBqpERY440fc+eBlmwZcFcXAka/lh5gNlnv1x0b909ZO Ae6Ykp+7vTaXBFTv/FU8fLlAUNmEXTS8i3oUF8i2JLR/rLyWtauDYpce4qyAWJohXfaI Oefk2puSXQ6LBMKYWhVl57iFiVQDht2p++IbExpGjWDHJRujdorBebWYY/5lDz4LeQYz McSIU9FqQiI10OEyqn+KxqljAHbQdofRSTs2DoDIScSKwvsH2lHpArTOBXnv9CJc1RoF iKjju94eepXo/ZyyclDgBwbLQ0iHjfp80C4X1MigsOefW//jiNEeK0v0Q+1rknWHFgY4 REuw== Mon, 31 Oct 2016 16:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.176.6.197 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Oct 2016 16:10:37 -0700 (PDT) References: From: David Scheidt Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 18:10:37 -0500 To: "eric@megageek.com" Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Vehicle wheel dollies follow up Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 4:13 PM, wrote: > A few weeks ago I asked about the wheel dollies and got some great answers. > > I spoke with a buddy of mine today that told me the Harbor Freight ones were > nearly identical to the go-wheels one. Then he stated there was a super > coupon for them for $70 a piece. ># 62234 61917 the bar code is 52896280 > The actual go-jacks are superior, at least compared to what HF was selling a couple years ago. I'm sure they'll hold up to the sort of usage you're planning. (the Go-Jacks have better casters, better paint, and generally better finish. They live a hard life when they're mounted on the body of a wrecker, and need it.) -- David Scheidt dmscheidt@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive