From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 1 19:57:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B7C25876A9 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2015 19:57:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from filter02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (filter02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BE325863EE for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2015 19:57:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by filter02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13B342C05B for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 02:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.245]) by localhost (filter02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.229]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 59AyRy-5tYZl for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 02:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [50.35.44.38]) by relay02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4C5CE4A0AA for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 02:58:11 +0000 (UTC) To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net From: Dave Cavanaugh Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 18:58:19 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 Subject: [Shop-talk] Outlook help? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I need some help with Outlook, specifically Outlook 10 and an Exchange server. Shop content- I'm a shop teacher and I use it at school.... I got a new Surface 3 recently. I got my school email to come up fine both on Outlook 365 (web based) and via the Mail app on Windows 10. My credentials went right through and the mail comes down from the District's Exchange server just fine. They will both do in a pinch, but they are not ideal for any kind of heavy duty email use. I installed Outlook 10 on the machine from DVDs (this is the full meal deal Outlook, not the web version) and all of the applications work, including Outlook. I got my home POP 3 email account working just fine. The problem is getting the district's Exchange server to work. I can set up the account without any trouble; it goes through the entire New Account process, accepts my user name and password and seems to have the account all set up. When you close the New Account dialog box and log in for the first time you get an authentication box where you have to enter your user name and password yet again, and this is where the system is hanging up. It just keeps asking for my user name and password over and over, and never logs in. We even changed my password and it's still doing the same thing. The District IT guy is just as stumped as I am; we spent nearly an hour trying to get it to work yesterday. If anyone is an Outlook Ninja and has any suggestions, I would love to hear them. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 1 22:33:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CC1258782A for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2015 22:33:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF31725877FF for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2015 22:33:33 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VwGliDrYzr74L8Ak0FUxtTzIUnUmFnYgNKSpSHw2KswUdm+tcbK06g1QSwZR7+Lr; h=Received:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [172.6.9.223] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1a403m-0008Oh-H0; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 00:34:34 -0500 To: Dave Cavanaugh , shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net References: <565E5E4B.2070705@frontier.com> From: Brian Kemp Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 21:34:12 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Outlook help? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Your Windoze login at home and at school are different domains. Rather than just logging in with your username, you might have to use the domain and username. The format would be something like domain\username - this is something I have to do when I access one particular company network from home. My company also doesn't allow non-VPN connections to the mail server from outside the corporate network (like home) as a security practice. If you are allowed, you could always bring the Surface to school and try and connect from inside the network to help troubleshoot. Brian On 12/1/2015 6:58 PM, Dave Cavanaugh wrote: > I need some help with Outlook, specifically Outlook 10 and an Exchange > server. Shop content- I'm a shop teacher and I use it at school.... > > I got a new Surface 3 recently. I got my school email to come up fine > both on Outlook 365 (web based) and via the Mail app on Windows 10. > My credentials went right through and the mail comes down from the > District's Exchange server just fine. They will both do in a pinch, > but they are not ideal for any kind of heavy duty email use. > > I installed Outlook 10 on the machine from DVDs (this is the full meal > deal Outlook, not the web version) and all of the applications work, > including Outlook. I got my home POP 3 email account working just > fine. The problem is getting the district's Exchange server to work. > I can set up the account without any trouble; it goes through the > entire New Account process, accepts my user name and password and > seems to have the account all set up. When you close the New Account > dialog box and log in for the first time you get an authentication box > where you have to enter your user name and password yet again, and > this is where the system is hanging up. It just keeps asking for my > user name and password over and over, and never logs in. We even > changed my password and it's still doing the same thing. The District > IT guy is just as stumped as I am; we spent nearly an hour trying to > get it to work yesterday. > > If anyone is an Outlook Ninja and has any suggestions, I would love to > hear them. > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bk13@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 2 09:00:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717FE2587EA0 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 09:00:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f170.google.com (mail-ig0-f170.google.com [209.85.213.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EBF25866A8 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 2015 08:57:14 -0700 (MST) Received: by igvg19 with SMTP id g19so120856558igv.1 for ; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 07:58:30 -0800 (PST) h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=AYgAF2bPBc5iCKn1PjiXqNOAc17h3IdqCjTwRj0jwSY=; b=1DFjaJj0z147HGxPyozNrKo652l68rNY6tQ1MA41yP/aC09rgarkRqphrPBpZg79GR ldlbfL2ULb1Ik1w7et5QgSAXhNeeTYX9n11IzRoXj7R3GmOVRMxmkxzOlIfrIquC38Sn 1/V1ysb33NajRtNxzViyassomxZYU0u6lMM2lbzxDb/nJ/MHBlMNR6uLC67ZOYB/xv7Y vRxDY/H15RCU0SE9+yNeOaeteTX2QGziLPM9lwV6UXARBjjCVhjlDzZWQlkhj0Kohnqe uGazD3V4E7djMmtp+ClbWcFJxfJqAP2am4oNRYq+0gSu89cNRO7hu0g8YgVbsvRrV1Cj TGLQ== e7mr33189830igx.93.1449071910661; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 07:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (65-79-144-183.c3-0.stk-ubr2.chi-stk.il.cable.rcn.com. [65.79.144.183]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j17sm1365368ioe.41.2015.12.02.07.58.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Dec 2015 07:58:29 -0800 (PST) From: David Scheidt Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 09:58:28 -0600 References: To: eric@megageek.com Cc: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Buying a new compressor of just the 'compressor'? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > On Nov 25, 2015, at 08:07, eric@megageek.com wrote: > > First, Happy T'day to all the US folk here. For your not in the US, have > a great day as well. > > > On to the question... > > I have a compressor that I have been using for about 20 years now (wow, > has it really been that long?) > > Recently, the compressor is leaking some oil. So I know a replacement is > coming up. My question, is it better to replace the whole unit, or just > the compressor pump? For me, it would ldepend on the compressor. If it's a high quality industrial compressor, I would check out the tank, and if it's good, repair or replace the pump. If the tank is crap, replace the whole thing. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 6 20:35:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6962585CE9 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:35:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAED9258570B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:04:58 -0700 (MST) s=s1024; t=1449457577; bh=hAxqIQTYdgTcLyY6XBc1Iwzzq9jB260xTT22MSnZIlY=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=sOzYqhgEadZJOidq4nf0/uWJOSPr4zx2yqITdD2MqVegO9YLBdPOAxRiGJ8pk1izV67dC5wulnISv4VF4UdalEHN0e+G12tFq/sRNsVmF4yrANdbpl4ohttWJvHRokupi4CSELmHgemvGGS8aBtYp8NpQ/YGvj7EBZSEFld8yI4= Received: from [216.39.60.167] by nm22.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2015 03:06:17 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.117] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2015 03:06:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Dec 2015 03:06:17 -0000 LJb9scdOqUkRTHoDCYa.koZikYEDKETICFoSkG4551qCzoiWqbA6lMDDefn6 LsilaBmvgNExyvrCXZ4c_B1dmLNedxjWxcOSkfBBy6p7FdP.TDhKg4yOmE5J qF83YZBwMfNsz3wtuYt_1hCVzz7heAtMQTZdN.5XUGXyrH6ZwoAEoWXdaeMj 1IQVSMmCBxwj9x1pAqIF0ri_pR842RRjlJ7IWoPujCdaQO9n.rbUQZ0KySE. L874oKymglj7TaCvpqRgB2TouIOAB5vZ50q_TDCC7iG1XxoGNkJpciUyMNy9 1Q.n_0z7v6d_H_NIMEG9UBqCD6YFWFeVciM1PC6COfZqd77hUOjaK4G4cGvK O2raqwX1wVg0blhkWD7HU03y5r3kRjNW5f.oFXJaFk3vjlrIBCe5qnK4CGOO UNmCDxooAm6ncoLwEeo9HQPiLFBPH3oAr5a6H_4l3wGhAyuad4NTSBJpsl2A CIlt5I0gGdWMAb6IxRT1d3Una7YrQZU00z_FZ From: "john niolon" To: "shop-talk" Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 21:06:22 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] flat screen tv to monitor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Guys looking to buy a smaller flat screen tv to use as a monitor on my desktop... probably around 30-32b.. tried one of mine hooked up thru HDMI and it worked great... no more squinting. Wife said I couldnbt keep it... prices are getting good right now but Ibm wondering if I should spend for a 1080 dpi over a 720 (cheaper) can a pc push 1080 or is it a waste of money thanks John _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 6 21:20:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9C52585D4B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 21:20:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wm0-f42.google.com (mail-wm0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB362585CC1 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:55:11 -0700 (MST) Received: by wmww144 with SMTP id w144so124525737wmw.1 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:56:29 -0800 (PST) s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Ii3Q7H9wimCfjr0O6OX8ygePrjx65FK16ujZP6K38jw=; b=yExRBaIbchr5WhytZ2ZGzMNj8lQpHkTbl9AJ5T1pneK0f5nU778vumzUoULpOHNoBw r4N8OM8dHLAGcZkP+1ESjrzCTT5mp+Q3HnO8CN/NQhByRu8v1wETIfIsrM7yNKwIFSX8 ABMeu3+P11PhU2t45HHT2zlDi7+WlZyWek+5c= d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Ii3Q7H9wimCfjr0O6OX8ygePrjx65FK16ujZP6K38jw=; b=R+6d+tFHnMOa0W6RbVCstlme5xa5IuYQmmnHDZOLKwOC07TcHClMN+VilSgyEICsNV d6sCmFFUsraifm9w1EF4P0n7IDfNNiSJqAKseqCZ+jC83R36CnoZSgYExcNInjexIMRo GKsnM2SZ4NV9hTao4LMPgY8OYa21Unw/KXU3aoDYphbDfkFzh5i1V3EE424x6ri0sdH1 TrWai5QnNFeLxbjyZTBdyt12Zc+sUDUFubdIPgcMshXm6fwiDWjF08BKgEWM1cT5yQZz ZF6x6MXdlaBhq1hvVowsBYKElGA62/XImk/8n6zCMuR/aW5sMdEq6ptkMHTeSZxJDieI vPcg== kk10mr29991221wjb.5.1449460589859; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.159.208 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:56:29 -0800 (PST) References: <172C6E4BA85B41B0A1BDE9CFE0E73A71@UserPC> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 22:56:29 -0500 From: Doug Braun To: john niolon Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] flat screen tv to monitor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Any modern PC can drive a 1080p monitor. It would be short-sighted to get anything less. Even laptops have 1080p screens. Doug On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 10:06 PM, john niolon wrote: > Hi Guys > > looking to buy a smaller flat screen tv to use as a monitor on my > desktop... > probably around 30-32b .. tried one of mine hooked up thru HDMI and it > worked great... no more squinting. > Wife said I couldnb t keep it... > > prices are getting good right now but Ib m wondering if I should spend > for a > 1080 dpi over a 720 (cheaper) can a pc push 1080 or is it a waste of > money > > thanks > John > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/doug@dougbraun.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 6 21:20:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EDD2585DD5 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 21:20:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA9B258596A for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:59:17 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=MmnXqoHLCmtkMTaK/89DJnQ1N1Cgq0bsXxe23EVdQ2D5i94BVPrEmUwRM9WR/l3x; h=Received:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.254.72.198] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1a5myV-0004RU-KS; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 23:00:32 -0500 To: john niolon , shop-talk References: <172C6E4BA85B41B0A1BDE9CFE0E73A71@UserPC> From: Brian Kemp Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 20:00:00 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] flat screen tv to monitor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net John - I have a 27" TV/monitor for my computer. It is running 1920 x 1080 via a DVI cable. The computer video is part of the motherboard - nothing fancy. It is Windows 7 probably purchased in 2009. For me, 27" is plenty big for sitting up close. You can have two large windows running. I will typically only use half the screen at a time and almost never have any window maximized. When I put this setup together several years ago, the recommendation was DVI over HDMI for a computer monitor. I don't remember the specific reasons why, but I'm happy with the setup. Every so often I will connect my wife's laptop to our 32" 720 dpi TV to watch a movie or show pictures on a bigger screen. All the Windows graphics are too big and it annoys me. I much prefer the smaller icons on my 1080 screen. I wouldn't think the price difference between 720 and 1080 is all that much factored over several years. If my monitor every goes, there is no question I'll get another 1080 (or better). Brian On 12/6/2015 7:06 PM, john niolon wrote: > Hi Guys > > looking to buy a smaller flat screen tv to use as a monitor on my desktop... > probably around 30-32b.. tried one of mine hooked up thru HDMI and it > worked great... no more squinting. > Wife said I couldnbt keep it... > > prices are getting good right now but Ibm wondering if I should spend for a > 1080 dpi over a 720 (cheaper) can a pc push 1080 or is it a waste of money > > thanks > John > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bk13@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 6 23:13:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F136225846B3 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 23:13:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from haybaler.sackheads.org (unknown [136.248.123.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0958258532A for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 22:17:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.sackheads.org [127.0.0.1]) by haybaler.sackheads.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470C6285FA for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 00:18:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from haybaler.sackheads.org ([136.248.123.228]) by localhost (haybaler.sackheads.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EXB+-Y0IEDXY for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 00:18:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by haybaler.sackheads.org (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 214B4285A6; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 00:18:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (cpe-74-138-152-195.kya.res.rr.com [74.138.152.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jimmie@sackheads.org) by haybaler.sackheads.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2A028479 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 00:18:37 -0500 (EST) To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: <172C6E4BA85B41B0A1BDE9CFE0E73A71@UserPC> From: Jimmie Mayfield Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 00:18:36 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] flat screen tv to monitor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net One thing to keep in mind: if you're planning to use this solely as a PC monitor, you might well consider looking for a PC monitor that size instead of a TV. With a TV, you'll be paying for digital tuners, remote controls, speakers, etc that you'll probably never use in a PC setup. That said, there's probably not much market for large low-resolution PC monitors (believe it or not, for a PC monitor that size, 1080 is pretty low resolution) so 32" TVs might still be cheaper simply due to economy of scale. But it's worth checking into. To answer your other question...any PC made within the last 7-10 years should have enough horsepower to drive a 1080p display. If it has an HDMI or DisplayPort output, you're probably good to go. On 12/06/15 22:06, john niolon wrote: > Hi Guys > > looking to buy a smaller flat screen tv to use as a monitor on my desktop... > probably around 30-32b.. tried one of mine hooked up thru HDMI and it > worked great... no more squinting. > Wife said I couldnbt keep it... > > prices are getting good right now but Ibm wondering if I should spend for a > 1080 dpi over a 720 (cheaper) can a pc push 1080 or is it a waste of money > > thanks > John > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mayfield+shoptalk@sackheads.org _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 7 00:29:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D42D2585A77 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 00:29:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EC825846E0 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 00:00:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [172.248.153.253] ([172.248.153.253:1642] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 46/DA-09995-ACE25665; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:01:31 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'shop-talk'" Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 23:01:30 -0800 Thread-Index: AdEwoJotPX5vExIVTuyMYeWaWFgMSAAHFoIg Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] flat screen tv to monitor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > can a pc push 1080 or is it a > waste of money Even 1080 is on the low side IMO. This screen is 1920 x 1200 and I like it. Randall _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 7 07:43:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635AE2585F2F for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 07:43:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mailback1.g2host.com (mailback1.g2host.com [209.98.94.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295FE2585008 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 07:23:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [198.203.181.181] (account arvidj@visi.com) by visi.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 6.0.11) with HTTP id 3719658; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 08:24:35 -0600 From: "Arvid Jedlicka" To: Randall , 'shop-talk' Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 08:24:35 -0600 References: <46.DA.09995.ACE25665@cdptpa-oedge03> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] flat screen tv to monitor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 7 08:11:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4078525848F2 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:11:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mailback1.g2host.com (mailback1.g2host.com [209.98.94.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9952585F4A for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 07:48:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from [198.203.181.181] (account arvidj@visi.com) by visi.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 6.0.11) with HTTP id 3719909 for shop-talk@autox.team.net; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 08:49:36 -0600 From: "Arvid Jedlicka" To: 'shop-talk' Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 08:49:36 -0600 References: <46.DA.09995.ACE25665@cdptpa-oedge03> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] flat screen tv to monitor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Try this again ... +1 on the 1920 x 1200 version, if you can find them. The norm for HD seems to be 1920 x 1080. Tons of them out there. I had to look a while to find the 1200 line version I prefer. Arvid On Sun, 6 Dec 2015 23:01:30 -0800 "Randall" wrote: >> can a pc push 1080 or is it a >> waste of money > > Even 1080 is on the low side IMO.B B This screen is 1920 x 1200 and I like it. > > Randall > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donationB B $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/arvidj@visi.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 7 08:28:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E4125851C3 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:28:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yk0-f175.google.com (mail-yk0-f175.google.com [209.85.160.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31932585DB3 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:08:35 -0700 (MST) Received: by ykdv3 with SMTP id v3so197270398ykd.0 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:09:56 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wb8V3eMcVBxUCGpGSe4wrFKttujtqRtEYbJhjO4oXK4=; b=sKRHRwiWIYh+voLLzHvH6pYkAY0W/cAVGP0tmL6nRJKpdT+NRt6C5O5NU5eBxXCiUQ KB7JtnORhkPqQwtHVLSKfVMBxs+WP+0hxfj1TuClNDWEmYfWt58+r/Bfn92dc5psI+uC 2zCbLZLc5ibrkxEY3+iPcMPOOn6Zm+dVkoRl1/VQN+GsPPQ0xgKZN02UsavoWUdpWqvN 3+iUiPNlBZr+oXnTDJGffOgYNghRKJ1lFMQNoPlHokqEvPqUHR32zY7B2Zx61abuVTPT VPHKyxTf0K/V71nhqiHoxv8BTGDqSuuw0Qia/2dRAD3iaHNo3/10vkQ3dmEOBa+QYDSt e1pg== o19mr23210528ywd.333.1449500995889; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.129.81.202 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 07:09:55 -0800 (PST) References: <172C6E4BA85B41B0A1BDE9CFE0E73A71@UserPC> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 09:09:55 -0600 From: John Innis To: john niolon Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] flat screen tv to monitor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net 1080p is the minimum resolution for a computer monitor made in the last 20 years. I have a CRT computer monitor from 1997 that will do better than that. I used it with a pentium 1 processor and graphics card from that era. Any computer you are likely to still be using can do 1600x1200, which is much better than 1080p. Remember that 1080 is meant for watching movies from across the room, not looking at text and graphics from across your desk. If you are getting a monitor that large and want to use it for normal PC tasks, get one that is 4k or does at least 1600x1200. I have to use a 1080 monitor at work, all day every day, and I hate it. On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 9:06 PM, john niolon wrote: > Hi Guys > > looking to buy a smaller flat screen tv to use as a monitor on my > desktop... > probably around 30-32b .. tried one of mine hooked up thru HDMI and it > worked great... no more squinting. > Wife said I couldnb t keep it... > > prices are getting good right now but Ib m wondering if I should spend > for a > 1080 dpi over a 720 (cheaper) can a pc push 1080 or is it a waste of > money > > thanks > John > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jdinnis@gmail.com > > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 7 08:58:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153032585E87 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:58:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FD852584D43 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 08:30:36 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1449502315; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type:To; b=PacH8Rqf74IkBfAi9yvz9QterdyoyQhYohQeqPPO52Vav1OHwH0tViVvfQ8Fjzxd5 5qMAW2UKeYE2nkzYn4O59omgfO6l/q9UDQQTtF+4NVDzQn+FBc7k1OO8FTn05yaGtA kFpHPyKgI8VsIsmE8LSnVIy3lbeg8wTPK9D/xn1U= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail12.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.152]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABMGMKUPA6WG3FS for (sender ); Mon, 7 Dec 2015 07:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [75.76.179.156] by webmail12.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:30:45 GMT From: "Matt" Full-Name: "Matt" Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 15:30:45 GMT Cc: shop-talk@autox.team.net To: Undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] flat screen tv to monitor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net John, 32 inch flat screens were running $150 recently (not just camp out doorbusters). 24 inch monitors with excellent resolution are running $100.To bump up to 27 inch monitor is around $150. There are numerous ways to run multiple monitors - my wife is a CPA and runs 4 screens from her laptop.I get by with a new 24 inch monitor and a 22 inch - sub 24 inchers are getting ridiculously cheap There are many ways to skin this cat - how your office/desk is configured and personal preference will likely govern. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "john niolon" Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 21:06:22 -0600 looking to buy a smaller flat screen tv to use as a monitor on my desktop... probably around 30-32b.. John _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 8 19:14:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D8425862FE for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:14:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p10mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p10mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.185.186]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7366C2585D15 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 19:08:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (99-7-68-55.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.7.68.55]) by nk11p10mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Mar 31 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0NZ20015RJFTSK50@nk11p10mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for shop-talk@autox.team.net; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 02:11:56 +0000 (GMT) definitions=2015-12-09_03:,, signatures=0 kscore.is_bulkscore=0 kscore.compositescore=1 compositescore=0.9 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 kscore.is_spamscore=0 rbsscore=0 spamscore=0 urlsuspectscore=0.9 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510090000 definitions=main-1512090041 From: Robert nogueira Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:11:55 -0600 To: Shop Talk Subject: [Shop-talk] Floor repair Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I've got a little section of a floor which is spongy. The floor is 3/4" plywood with a over lay of 1/4" plywood all on 16 inch centers. The bad section is small and only between two joists. My plan was to cut out the bad section between the joists and replace it with new plywood. My question, is plywood stiffer between two joists if a sheet spans several joists or will my plan of one piece spanning between two joists be as stiff as a full sheet spanning several joists? Also, is plywood stiffer across its width or stiffer across its length I hope this all makes sense . Bob _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 8 21:16:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918DD2585F0D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:16:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36F22585C2D for ; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 21:16:42 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=EV0IFkNhH9YJd44h6P59b6mZsrQO+6ZTxdF5gE6mpj7h+vnd3r2JKHZnf7KEZfPF; h=Received:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.254.72.198] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1a6WFP-0001yr-RC; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 23:21:00 -0500 To: Robert nogueira , Shop Talk References: <11417038-4FA0-4761-8FBB-E91EFEC0405C@me.com> From: Brian Kemp Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 20:20:34 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Floor repair Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Bob - Is there any damage to the wood? I'd wonder about the reason it got spongy. A bigger sheet will be stronger, but you can make due with a smaller patch. If you cut out the damaged section, I would leave the existing floor over the full joist to maintain the strength of the rest of the floor. I would then take additional 2x boards and sister them to the existing joists to attach the patch. This will give you a full 2x to attach the floor patch, so you don't have to screw right at the edge of the plywood. I would also add 2x blocking between the joists where you cut to support the edges of both the original floor and the patch. That will also stiffen the floor. If the patch is more than a couple feet or you have a heavy load at that location, I would also add blocking in the middle. It is only an one extra length of board when you are going through the effort. If the wood is not damaged and you have access to the floor joists from below, like an unfinished basement or a crawl space, I'd just add blocking from below. Push the blocking up tight and screw it in and you don't have to mess with the floor. If this is due to water damage or termites, expect the problem to be bigger than it appears before demo. Brian On 12/8/2015 6:11 PM, Robert nogueira wrote: > I've got a little section of a floor which is spongy. The floor is 3/4" > plywood with a over lay of 1/4" plywood all on 16 inch centers. The bad > section is small and only between two joists. My plan was to cut out the bad > section between the joists and replace it with new plywood. My question, is > plywood stiffer between two joists if a sheet spans several joists or will my > plan of one piece spanning between two joists be as stiff as a full sheet > spanning several joists? > Also, is plywood stiffer across its width or stiffer across its length > I hope this all makes sense . > Bob > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bk13@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 9 07:55:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660BD2588809 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 07:55:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D2925886E6 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 07:46:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.116]) by resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id rSqj1r0072XD5SV01Squ89; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:50:54 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.22] ([73.47.127.174]) by resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id rSqt1r0073lta6101SqtZj; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:50:54 +0000 To: Shop Talk References: <11417038-4FA0-4761-8FBB-E91EFEC0405C@me.com> From: "Peter J. Thomas" Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 09:50:54 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 s=q20140121; t=1449672654; bh=z1O+1MaRzVBSWOsm72stURuOwJIskGz8wyWk5zFnYwU=; h=Received:Received:Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=NC2W8C5AeITB6sOxsjm0elhXUwtw4+3p5y4KIXINXT5Yp3p5c9Jfb0vDLKRdfGo7t UaF4ofHT3+wP5bi40jJXefdTpQe8nrrucuX9sLGjMWhtS30/0W7pG36zEGPYFg3aid oOkePt/p5v7XOBoTH1/A9ivQYUIBUreU3ea3mXgL61go3JibrJiWcv54nP4TFfa8Cn jOqQFXdR33Uvy+WSnO3wadogJokjV3UaxfmaSKqTfH8BJTFgUJcGMs+7dzlM7Cfe2O pFHGTmCP115EuTTiqseNIbdN9EQ5t385q+YXPZh0SoWyHiZzfETddLfdbc19joujCq CmV5kCAzG9uCw== Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Floor repair Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On 12/8/2015 9:11 PM, Robert nogueira wrote: > I've got a little section of a floor which is spongy. The floor is 3/4" > plywood with a over lay of 1/4" plywood all on 16 inch centers. The bad > section is small and only between two joists. My plan was to cut out the bad > section between the joists and replace it with new plywood. My question, is > plywood stiffer between two joists if a sheet spans several joists or will my > plan of one piece spanning between two joists be as stiff as a full sheet > spanning several joists? > Also, is plywood stiffer across its width or stiffer across its length > I hope this all makes sense . > Bob I prefer to span at least three joints, it basically doubles the stiffness. Adding 2x4 cross bridging between joints also helps. Plywood is slightly stiffer along the length, but only slightly. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 9 08:00:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196BF2588938 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 08:00:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCB12588196 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 08:00:29 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1449673496; bh=2Y41anrbviR+ylwhMO2LPDXOlbxIakglZiS9XlDOdOI=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject; b=iNOvuKUm9Q0Q6wfXXKMhCNKCBB/sSsOn2oDAvxtEbx8ZvLoL5GPlSL40j6HGhulKF/tP1qkk0ZFnTbFuxkBrDSElvNZWqhflEKh8xs5p4/cn7pcfd3HcU5tHF3iSbOvsbULMaFw4qZie688idbrkUSmdO8tEi/MEJ2sgUV5SpA8dQ4GCrY1HyGPWknfRPlUWpxnI+AvjtdjbqZjZJhc4C4pFYmmDDDflPizOaIs5XUJFMYrl4D04X1iuHzXCMwk6pnAv0NjnoES7LS2Om63Jy3gv1qUp54GCwrHpjNpbgaiwumyrQx9EFRXOcKJ9cwxVkVQXv+BcqfjN8/O0c3YYGw== Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2015 15:04:56 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.114] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2015 15:04:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp223.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2015 15:04:56 -0000 .aU1UN08c_pSKtHoLsF4Thj1yLc89VDIGQaDTn2EVruJUR3VOVHD70ln3q4n Ek4R42D_jcTP6GtDG3ez7s4PN7Qc7Q0JIkHW292Y9KQu.bzbyz7_697d6D2p aTwxeyaJ7UpCaVzazut3rXVNN17l0iPjmwD6ssW5h6ACxT2CmF2xg0Fzoxa2 GH5pKSB5ZLRn7DYmGhHvoIL1h.4KpGlmuwCbGjPiMzmuY_QITls.CLChzm9z .kz1mSK1ITkLwOwbLGKwbBAKXQSeDnTwaAQrBsBPZ2OECff.fu7htSTDclbT ztXBOob83eUHw6rmeIup_O2htLnh7Ylu.sWwMAIzy8Em.gCFcC.j9K4eNNSl enIdGJ_plqFcIBPbsP6qywiCFmLrS_M_5oBH2vHIJIbTikXiwgtpLlyqmm.g QJ44TudLSQX_HzQvl9o1p5CgkqCwOuh.pih5rsTpo0.s5PRotPBfcNiPYF3g oV0rcIg7xpSs4IIWKFcYNdKh_omgEDtlQXETN6nd0.8JWqv6RRI6mNHRQgpK xzDiJ From: Jim Juhas Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 10:04:55 -0500 References: <11417038-4FA0-4761-8FBB-E91EFEC0405C@me.com> To: Robert nogueira Cc: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Floor repair Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I have done this with extra blocking as Brian suggests. 2x4 was plenty to provide additional support. I was replacing water damaged plywood under my bathroom. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Robert nogueira wrote: > > I've got a little section of a floor which is spongy. The floor is 3/4" > plywood with a over lay of 1/4" plywood all on 16 inch centers. The bad > section is small and only between two joists. My plan was to cut out the bad > section between the joists and replace it with new plywood. My question, is > plywood stiffer between two joists if a sheet spans several joists or will my > plan of one piece spanning between two joists be as stiff as a full sheet > spanning several joists? > Also, is plywood stiffer across its width or stiffer across its length > I hope this all makes sense . > Bob > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/james.f.juhas@snet.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Dec 9 08:10:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40DC2588B83 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 08:10:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168A02588725 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 08:06:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from PatsOffice ([184.105.18.14]) by p3plsmtpa06-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id rTAz1r0040JCzvc01TAzb6; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 08:11:00 -0700 From: "Pat Horne" To: "'Robert nogueira'" , "'Shop Talk'" References: <11417038-4FA0-4761-8FBB-E91EFEC0405C@me.com> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 09:10:56 -0600 Thread-Index: AdEyKBYFrgkJqsnMQGWL65hm3Yis1QAavMmQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Floor repair Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Bob, You can just replace the spongy part, but it would be better to replace a bigger area. If I were doing it, I would cut out a section about half way between the joist and the next one on each side. With your joists on 16" centers, the patch would be about 32" wide. This makes for stronger support of the area. I would also screw 2x4's around all the edges of the opening, half under the old wood and half to support the new. Use adhesive and screws to secure it. While you have the floor open look to see what might have caused the wood to fail in the first place. Is the location under or near the frig? There may be a leak there. There may be a duct under the floor that could be leaking moist air in that area. Plywood doesn't usually fail like that by itself. Peace, Pat -----Original Message----- From: Shop-talk [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert nogueira Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:12 PM To: Shop Talk Subject: [Shop-talk] Floor repair I've got a little section of a floor which is spongy. The floor is 3/4" plywood with a over lay of 1/4" plywood all on 16 inch centers. The bad section is small and only between two joists. My plan was to cut out the bad section between the joists and replace it with new plywood. My question, is plywood stiffer between two joists if a sheet spans several joists or will my plan of one piece spanning between two joists be as stiff as a full sheet spanning several joists? Also, is plywood stiffer across its width or stiffer across its length I hope this all makes sense . Bob _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/pat@hornesystemstx.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 12 20:26:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B9025879A9 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:26:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B93258769A for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:23:55 -0700 (MST) s=s1024; t=1449977305; bh=9xwXVqSknmId8yBWmnBJUcHnzpARqddJ+3v+yCG7cSk=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=jNQjkRtMFTbBVklJV8XuI5iZLCGMd8x7krKxHGltm2Gq2nJ/91JVlytm5qXM1NAqySs3T+iVmPXT8tAIamhk/c6Gfcyx5oWSZ0RlCVi8Mh+3yygppxALDBUrfBawRP1jVCs0AqETVE0LGhLskjFbOHIA6SSwWsy5daZaoi5zmrQ= Received: from [216.39.60.170] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2015 03:28:25 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.147] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2015 03:28:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2015 03:28:25 -0000 uYyk0rmM0gMEgvDqPMZz8By758c.DCYAhEeFsXeEcJbdrMPAqKQtlrH9rM7q 8pFiojNpQobvFq5f_vk1v2PJq54nm8YP1Khbegd6tmNchiLCsMD9YzeW5wkX RR32h_Gzw5Qbcz1aM_khtsFl0fVrXvi3ZE0HRyFM.VY7uQemInubarGZlMHr Jxcj0mv6VgUoFs0sGG6P1oedxxvzJLXTjda.ed7XE0dsQnEZ21WajLwBUqy6 jbUsRTZUZFufNVmoOFYQIObN0FIl4.BcSLenHC_XlTttw9ToVM.Ez.Y8dIMT Ke7ndnq.vkYxl4SIxVxuj_B_bPvCL6ULbZOLWrEezahKSMHGW93QWx06dA8n bqb_YLlHiy5y4K9ye7qC.bdKJ8PGSiE8BwHha1n1d0F15QpPPzLOtH9_sF2m krBqpDedPbtNUnL_dPMF7ANZLQ4U1O3boK40jo50DCHN819Oe8LVz.BfIs.Z y From: "john niolon" To: "shop-talk" Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:28:20 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] new project need mechanical advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Had an opportunity to pick this up... couldn't pass it up.. . 1985 Mercedes Benz 380 SE got a 4.7L FI engine double overhead cam... I think been sitting up probably 10 years... they tried to start it in b13 or b14 ...no luck... probably bad gas... anyway... it's sitting in MY yard now with the battery on charge. I need someone with Mercedes experience I guess and the dealer wants 2nd mortgage money If you were going to try to get it running after sitting so long... what would you do and in what sequence... I figure drain the gas, change the oil... talk to me http://jniolon.classicpickup.com/Img_0790.jpg http://jniolon.classicpickup.com/Img_0785.jpg I figure change plugs, figure out where the fuel filter is and remove it... pull injectors and clean them get the fuel out of the tank and the fuel rails then replace filter change the oil (sticker says last change 2004) what else ??? _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 12 20:56:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA1B2587A41 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:56:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2A525875A6 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 20:53:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from [172.248.153.253] ([172.248.153.253:1046] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 1C/B2-23144-4ECEC665; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 03:58:28 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'john niolon'" , "'shop-talk'" Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:58:26 -0800 Thread-Index: AdE1VrRe1OkqoYXXQRScsSSUxpAixAAAw23A Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] new project need mechanical advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net After adding fresh oil and you pull the plugs, squirt a healthy dose of your favorite penetrating oil (eg PB Blaster or Kroil) into each plug hole. Let sit for a few hours, then spin the engine with the plugs out. After changing fuel and removing injectors, run the pump long enough to flush out the lines with fresh fuel. Check for water in what comes out. I don't know how the engine is arranged, but if it doesn't fire quickly, I'd look for some way to verify that both cams are turning. -- Randall _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 15 11:09:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA442586018 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:09:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from dogbert2.mail.megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E892585FDE for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:05:41 -0700 (MST) To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net From: eric@megageek.com Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:43:02 -0500 7.0.1|January 17, 2006) at 12/15/2015 12:42:51, Serialize complete at 12/15/2015 12:42:51 Subject: [Shop-talk] Moving heavy equipment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Hello fellow gearheads! I have a quick question. I was planning on moving lots of stuff (tools, appliances, furniture, etc) from NJ to WV. I was looking into a service where I can load a connex on my end, have it delivered and unload it at the other end. (The main business is "PODS" that does this.) I'm looking for recommendations for cheap companies (stuff isn't breakable or valuable) or other recommendations for do this. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 15 12:33:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DCE2587C51 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:33:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from itonami.pair.com (itonami.pair.com [209.68.2.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C49F2587BD8 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:33:17 -0700 (MST) Received: by itonami.pair.com (Postfix, from userid 3198) id CBCFC8FF0B; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:37:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by itonami.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1318FC0F; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:37:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:37:37 -0500 (EST) From: David Hillman To: eric@megageek.com References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (BSF 1266 2009-07-14) Cc: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Moving heavy equipment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, eric@megageek.com wrote: > I have a quick question. I was planning on moving lots of stuff (tools, > appliances, furniture, etc) from NJ to WV. > > I was looking into a service where I can load a connex on my end, have it > delivered and unload it at the other end. (The main business is "PODS" > that does this.) > > I'm looking for recommendations for cheap companies (stuff isn't breakable > or valuable) or other recommendations for do this. > > Any ideas? Some family recently relocated from Illinois to North Carolina. They used Upack.com, who dropped a 28x8x9' box trailer in their driveway, and a few days later, moved it to Fayetteville. We packed every inch of that trailer to the ceiling, but if you need less, you only pay for the space you use. They were pretty satisfied. Upack will also store the loaded trailer, if need be. -- David Hillman _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 15 13:56:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D4F258798E for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:56:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 038A7258794F for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:55:58 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1450213230; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type:To; b=WrXseE6dbd/+7mEjm9LdRFwey0t4aIuSAlJVpR3yDH04iIWQvFkdbx/QgDgHdVcdY 3v/c1s4f+UikVg3qBN4upZ4UciBut2yJ0jlXQNpNN6+b02NuQr3a1+CR8AnsviMcyu HtOmM1eq9zJyCev2r4+Uy4GJlv6PbbETojtFndFw= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail03.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.143]) by smtpout02.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABMHA942AY2XATA for (sender ); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [75.76.179.156] by webmail03.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:59:49 GMT From: "Matt" Full-Name: "Matt" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:59:49 GMT Cc: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net To: Undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Moving heavy equipment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net PODS probably provides the most well known turnkey solution - but you pay a premium for the convenience.If they could use a container at their destination, I would bet the cheapest solution would be to buy a container.I imagine they are fairly reasonable in NJ if not too far from Newark.Then you aren't on the clock and can have it moved at your pace.You could even try "you ship" ---------- Original Message ---------- From: David Hillman To: eric@megageek.com Cc: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Moving heavy equipment Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:37:37 -0500 (EST) On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, eric@megageek.com wrote: > I have a quick question. I was planning on moving lots of stuff (tools, > appliances, furniture, etc) from NJ to WV. > > I was looking into a service where I can load a connex on my end, have it > delivered and unload it at the other end. (The main business is "PODS" > that does this.) > > I'm looking for recommendations for cheap companies (stuff isn't breakable > or valuable) or other recommendations for do this. > > Any ideas? Some family recently relocated from Illinois to North Carolina. They used Upack.com, who dropped a 28x8x9' box trailer in their driveway, and a few days later, moved it to Fayetteville. We packed every inch of that trailer to the ceiling, but if you need less, you only pay for the space you use. They were pretty satisfied. Upack will also store the loaded trailer, if need be. -- David Hillman _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mbarre@juno.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 15 17:46:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1EF25877B1 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:46:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AE025876B1 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:46:20 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=otSQX/OziCW8IfgquDh6nGJLZR4uazTOH0ICozXU2plQoZAtvnO6aEEA6oifgJz1; h=Received:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.254.72.198] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1a90IW-0003a9-W3; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:50:29 -0500 To: eric@megageek.com, shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net References: From: Brian Kemp Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 16:50:01 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Moving heavy equipment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I'd also recommend you price a local mover, especially if you have flexibility in your move date and can be fit in to their schedule for a discounted rate. I looked at PODS and found them priced at a premium. I was pleasantly surprised how affordable it was to have the three movers load their large truck full (the biggest that isn't a semi) and unload my house at the other end. I had all the delicate items and valuables either already moved or in a room with the door closed and marked don't pack. It was especially nice to have the movers carry all the heavy stuff down 22 steps to the house. My legs were dead and there is no way I could have done it on my own. Brian On 12/15/2015 9:43 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote: > Hello fellow gearheads! > > I have a quick question. I was planning on moving lots of stuff (tools, > appliances, furniture, etc) from NJ to WV. > > I was looking into a service where I can load a connex on my end, have it > delivered and unload it at the other end. (The main business is "PODS" > that does this.) > > I'm looking for recommendations for cheap companies (stuff isn't breakable > or valuable) or other recommendations for do this. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance. > > > Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. > Eric P > "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational > being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph > Waldo Emerson > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bk13@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 22 05:30:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7C42585782 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 05:30:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (unknown [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CFC3258565B for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 05:26:07 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1450787433; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=YU6MrwI7beNNYIf41TP1qzfjQ+CRtRBS8fFbrWr587ZmILrOh/r0q36EWbkv+TqTb sehgjBI7XNruPkPbEfWgQMR0fthWbc320SQt7zqd1DU1FkCjjhf0MOL0nanzjk/dQh F1m4pxbTFbraa8d5esS0iKBfraHrYuZlqMt39SEQ= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail11.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.151]) by smtpout01.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABMHUST9A446R7A for (sender ); Tue, 22 Dec 2015 04:29:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [75.76.179.156] by webmail11.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:28:16 GMT From: "Matt" Full-Name: "Matt" Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:28:16 GMT To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: [Shop-talk] What is it? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I bought a lot of tools recently and while sorting them out came across a few items I couldn't identify.In particular these tubes with a spiral core. They look like they screw onto maybe a bottle?Any ideas? [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 22 05:53:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8402585821 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 05:53:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 38E8825855B0 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 05:53:26 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1450789083; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type:To; b=cew+IpTOhdVLUrsGfB0MF77WGL6H6chY73IBuzGm2UpHUoGYQjxpO/6RYHCA3uekU Gmta7ofH+moM+tLj+zTmQ/BKfZRAc5SIbkxUU5GhUerqRXqlvtnmBqZCVGSgHmykZ6 0N8FyG8Xyf95jPJmAYaK6PV3eJ4uXmF54yh9tP2E= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail11.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.151]) by smtpout04.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABMHUUFRATVFRSA for (sender ); Tue, 22 Dec 2015 04:57:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [75.76.179.156] by webmail11.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:56:26 GMT From: "Matt" Full-Name: "Matt" Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:56:26 GMT Cc: shop-talk@autox.team.net To: Undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What is it? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Here is a photobucket link:http://s804.photobucket.com/user/mrbarre/media/Spiral.jpg.html?filters[u ser]=110045784&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Matt" To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: [Shop-talk] What is it? Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:28:16 GMT I bought a lot of tools recently and while sorting them out came across a few items I couldn't identify.In particular these tubes with a spiral core. They look like they screw onto maybe a bottle?Any ideas? _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 22 06:29:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54ED9258606B for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 06:29:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f178.google.com (mail-ig0-f178.google.com [209.85.213.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84812585A49 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 06:29:33 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f178.google.com with SMTP id to4so59838815igc.0 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 05:34:12 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XbtPXq+InMfYLPjY70/k0/t1hhf56NqHdeK4jYEVaRY=; b=PLXrZdP3CCFnJzhbGAmNZCjdwsbd9TXJn2yTZFUyRmY3lZ/wJubvvU+n0p0payQ3GG AT4etECTfxjASFsUVlPI8pZhlyoRFly5ULQp378YKTUBu4mWpe7PGNI2O9dOeBYB6he6 Wmkx1j/mNY5d8CmzHwRECar3poTp1yXXdBI+MzJsQhojSJL42kMTbK18bpy8OVvGbfWe o9FPCbr2t9QESBT2mmZwAdrZtHEGtCHYf/OkmR1LEGY2UJaWYP6dCa1kqJT90phE9G+Q 27U3PCjbRGwyMm3rilpn1iHsk91n4N0fMwVO8kIfZHTzIC8wgb4VcwYrFTffjdpBrs4u 6qNg== ik1mr23334564igb.23.1450791251930; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 05:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.206.7 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 05:34:11 -0800 (PST) References: <20151222.075626.28434.3@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 08:34:11 -0500 From: Jeff Scarbrough To: Matt Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What is it? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Looks like it's for mixing something, and applying it? Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Matt wrote: > Here is a photobucket > link:http://s804.photobucket.com/user/mrbarre/media/Spiral.jpg.html?filters[u > ser]=110045784&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0 > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Matt" > To: shop-talk@autox.team.net > Subject: [Shop-talk] What is it? > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:28:16 GMT > > I bought a lot of tools recently and while sorting them out came across a > few items I couldn't identify.In particular these tubes with a spiral core. > They look like they screw onto maybe a bottle?Any ideas? > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 22 06:36:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0BF25861F2 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 06:36:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.centurylink.net (mail.centurylink.net [205.219.233.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DB72585621 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 06:36:14 -0700 (MST) X_CMAE_Category: , , a=I0wsP0/ub+0M/VQyKFHlEA==:117 a=I0wsP0/ub+0M/VQyKFHlEA==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=xwPayol1AAAA:8 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=-yRp1lqJAAAA:8 a=vggBfdFIAAAA:8 a=cul0FRviPdZZ9G3ITFcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=7rOUzJEIEkEA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.user=ejrussell@mebtel.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [99.194.29.42] ([99.194.29.42:50337] helo=EricJRussellPC) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTPA id C8/CF-28719-1E259765; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 08:40:49 -0500 From: "Eric J Russell" To: "Matt" References: <20151222.075626.28434.3@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 08:40:38 -0500 Cc: shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What is it? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > I bought a lot of tools recently and while sorting them out came across a > few items I couldn't identify.In particular these tubes with a spiral > core. > They look like they screw onto maybe a bottle?Any ideas? Perhaps for a 2-part glue? The mixer tube fits onto a cartridge that contains the 2 parts. http://www.sealboss.com/CARTRIDGE.php http://www.amazon.com/Simpson-Strong-Tie-ETIPAC10-Crack-Pac-Cartridge/dp/B005MYXIIK Eric Russell Mebane, NC _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 22 08:43:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A042585142 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 08:43:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809E4258511D for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 08:43:20 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=T7YBgvUZh9F68vUF8Urq5reC+XflbUL7Xux3hmf92S9qoScAouUOrFz8fa92tNbs; h=Received:Subject:To:References:Cc:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [172.6.8.149] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1aBPAH-0000A7-TC; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:47:54 -0500 To: Matt References: <20151222.075626.28434.3@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> From: Brian Kemp Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 07:47:23 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 Cc: shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What is it? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Simpson Strong-Tie mixing nozzles. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-Strong-Tie-Epoxy-Mixing-Nozzle-5-Pack-EMN22i-RP5/100659424 Here are some of the products that use them: http://www.homedepot.com/s/simpson+epoxy?NCNI-5 I've used this epoxy to set threaded rod in holes in the foundation to attach some of their products to better secure my house during various renovations. Brian On 12/22/2015 4:56 AM, Matt wrote: > Here is a photobucket > link:http://s804.photobucket.com/user/mrbarre/media/Spiral.jpg.html?filters[u > ser]=110045784&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0 > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Matt" > To: shop-talk@autox.team.net > Subject: [Shop-talk] What is it? > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:28:16 GMT > > I bought a lot of tools recently and while sorting them out came across a > few items I couldn't identify.In particular these tubes with a spiral core. > They look like they screw onto maybe a bottle?Any ideas? > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bk13@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 22 11:01:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE6825855B0 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:01:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail.milleredp.com (fw.milleredp.com [198.144.208.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952CF258504D for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:01:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.1.2.100] ([::ffff:10.1.2.100]) (AUTH: PLAIN jem, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,AES128-SHA) by mail.milleredp.com with ESMTPSA; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:06:00 -0800 id 000000000028001E.0000000056799108.00005C98 To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: <20151222.075626.28434.3@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> <62C3372709CB44E0BE32E4F4EA3BA2C3@EricJRussellPC> From: John Miller Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:05:46 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What is it? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On 12/22/2015 5:40 AM, Eric J Russell wrote: >> I bought a lot of tools recently and while sorting them out came >> across a >> few items I couldn't identify.In particular these tubes with a spiral >> core. >> They look like they screw onto maybe a bottle?Any ideas? > > Perhaps for a 2-part glue? Yeah, lots of two-part mixing-gun stuff uses nozzles like that, I think I've got at least three different sizes in the drawers right now - one batch from some tubes of Corian adhesive, one batch from some SEM two-part body-seam sealant, and one from some foundation-bolt epoxy. John. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 22 15:21:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733292585ADC for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:21:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B15382585AB3 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:21:48 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1450823186; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=GVNkNvFIy0Amfz+0uC55p6JuRnR6u9RzMm98idJGOofNcSc9qOLjLMd4IYnb6wvCm LVvsQOYV9lABF9M5V/YZS1fBDFsbqiMMOb4pQX0Ziif7xNapRI+5qmI6DmDBgdcKsI LXIE01l+whc+34IPvt9zkFJreLm3jhMexH+ZLgsM= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail07.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.147]) by smtpout01.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABMHVVR6AKWCAB2 for (sender ); Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [75.76.179.156] by webmail07.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 22:25:30 GMT From: "Matt" Full-Name: "Matt" Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 22:25:30 GMT To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: [Shop-talk] Whatisit? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks guys. yall clearly nailed it as an adhesive mixing nozzle.I thought I had sent out an acknowledgment earlier but never saw it. I continue to be impressed with the intellect available via this list. May you all have a very Merry Christmas and wonderful 2016. Matt BarreColumbus, GA _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 22 20:20:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3720E2585D23 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:20:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76592585523 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:20:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8D5411AD1D for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:25:06 -0700 (MST) To: shop-talk@autox.team.net From: Mark J Bradakis Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:25:05 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38 Subject: [Shop-talk] Oops. Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060000000405060607060901 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------060000000405060607060901 name="logo.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="logo.gif" R0lGODdhawBQAPEAAP////8AAAAA/wAAACwAAAAAawBQAAAC/oSPqcvtD6OctNqLs94o8A9q 3jKG5vmUiQqx6Cu5hgzXH03bOoZP+S6K9IDEjCzw6xSXh+Po2GQynY5SMipNtUhXQE7VlUKx qy+5mhWSlApk42lle8Pi9bmJezKs9HpbjjfkReY2l7ZX9nc3N1Q4ODPTl+WIV9nhxlKoWYkk OdnGB8n4CGdoiuk4InB455KqN6qnWdrZGWkgkMv6aBkZSooJOXta61GYu7rLa+prCWfsa0xb PAqgq7xMaVstHdxtWFxbjXy9Y9bL+D0oDo3aHb5Njrz7eukObvueDk89j+tvAxapQIG+ueOH j5+jZAfkBXxDMFqsdxQVhvvHEAG5/iBoeElrJjEfxXT7FGJ0sJEHoIGinuEZAFPkvpIW42XM 2BCnhS+wPMD8CdQA0AE1i8I7iRRFnANDmwJoCtXoQZPWylW9wQUL1K1cY0o1mvMawKsXqJDq ihZoUaJSE8jDabUCFTdp69Is5rXmv7BwdVKgxMln3a5Pa+YVua1quZRjy7oSN+DpYKiFvyKJ LM6tv7d+dz52NHlrusP8IrOVkVJxZ8egBAdVAFNyZMlMmxrG/CN13A2A58yWvSB27di/h95+ xJlhahO2hgplOvy1UOEJ1Fr8qSo55xedqFdH4PQ7A9F4vavWuPxE7/HOG/yO7ryWeYyrOW5A +3T6e9lR/i/v17wbB6DxMluBoTln2k/89RdGYyAEgGB+zyV4YHsLbrVQfendx5V++lUIIlv0 PRBgBvhN92FoC6YYFHb0xZUYVh5CGOKBLBK3gC6pZRYCjcURpWCNaV04X07nkWRCkPrReKOQ FEbYgFj+eAJBcbVd1iSI/BH53libOfiBaRNih6CTYoqGnm5SvoBjfjaeyGVMFp7HWH0cePdk h2WiSWR30vGlGpggtDnYlii2CJ5tPiqY42KChvmdlm6Gx+Wi/6WpnJ0a4LmipVvmSahxPvo4 ogIborBfnnFSRxmL/oWXHKY6cLqnF8TdiiaFEL7K6F7b4bIDrUGyGmqrlVKjkxmmj4bwGqhD TkaVqZkqBkSzq4LYljUAUrsEonNWh5tlCHHLl6ZsEiaEuMiCuawNcLagrk0apZkFZb3GoO5e YdErRYeOZeulTuaea6xnRQFKLlmH3MubXle9lSw26o0L0HIlStzwunHVOTDGBpfArkMe13DM qQmPXMM8p16MMggVm9wyEzDHvMTMNBPR7s07dKxBAQA7 --------------060000000405060607060901 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --------------060000000405060607060901-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 22 20:23:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C399258765A for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:23:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1252E2585520 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:23:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8BC411AD1D for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:28:09 -0700 (MST) To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: <567A1411.4040704@bradakis.com> From: Mark J Bradakis Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 20:28:08 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Oops. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I thought I had turned off the image exclusion for this list some time ago, I guess not. Done now. Enjoy however it is you celebrate the longest night of the year. mjb. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 25 19:10:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFD22587C67 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 19:10:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f50.google.com (mail-qg0-f50.google.com [209.85.192.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB1E2587C4F for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 19:10:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 6so39458808qgy.1 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 18:15:18 -0800 (PST) h=from:content-type:subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=sXm7T4ZKVWMXhjayvHK3jcOlf2Hb8YdRQXdAiboCEz8=; b=ONSZrUiWxPag/zx0tCVdrCdCVGFHSv/vpgipLHcM3/EAs42D+miIncD5EQNWnfBdXd CXZPyqGCVvOHSs46JQBXPssNs+GOQx4tFg6Uu4sNVxCCSqQ3MJmMQpAVqzJr5NFW+gAh KesVtrRcAzwSU5PQUDKQtgulzy2qknqQXHGePJfsIKQlNng+hPrUu2vD3SsQWDtbQipK ZwJdmt7PzEs8d8uNopH4SozFlLaRdP876IlMPA+fGH0+Z7omsaLqjzsOLo1TWF5NfkKH uOcgaj92aMmX0PLrCDJRWPo0moCrjaVDgwqiJYY1rYML9IgEgjzxx3uaaCGOqFqMLRtY x45g== Fri, 25 Dec 2015 18:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.120] (ool-457e068c.dyn.optonline.net. [69.126.6.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f132sm4931576qhe.6.2015.12.25.18.15.15 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 25 Dec 2015 18:15:16 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 21:15:14 -0500 To: Shop Talk Subject: [Shop-talk] Seat Heaters Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7505977217923007431== --Apple-Mail=_37FDB52B-B8F1-4628-9F90-305DA0C863F0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 First, Merry Christmas to everyone. I hope Santa brought all the tools = and/or car parts you=E2=80=99d asked for this year. He was certainly = good to me: I got everything I need to completely rebuild the seats on = my Alpine, something that has been on my to do list for quite a while. = I am not sure when I will actually get to it, but my plan is to have it = done before spring arrives. But, before I start I have been thinking = that maybe I could extend the top down season a bit by installing seat = warmers while I am at it. As far as I can see, they wouldn=E2=80=99t = add more than a couple of minutes to the reupholstery process and the = wiring shouldn=E2=80=99t be too bad as the car has a modern harness and = alternator. I just did a quick search for Seat Warmers on Amazon and = there are many complete sets (bottom and back for two seats) in the = $50-80 range, plus a Dorman kit that runs $60 per seat. = (http://www.amazon.com/Dorman-628-040-Universal-Seat-Heater/dp/B002U6IL9O/= ref=3Dsr_1_16?s=3Dautomotive&ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1451094179&sr=3D1-16&keywords= =3Dcar+seat+heater = ) Most seem to have decent reviews and I can=E2=80=99t= see anything in the Dorman units - besides a brand name - to justify = doubling the cost. But, I trust reviews here much more than on Amazon. = Has anyone here ever installed universal warmers? On a Little British = Car or equivalent? Any recommendations? As always, Thanks!= --Apple-Mail=_37FDB52B-B8F1-4628-9F90-305DA0C863F0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 First, Merry Christmas to everyone.  I hope Santa = brought all the tools and/or car parts you=E2=80=99d asked for this = year.  He was certainly good to me: I got everything I need to = completely rebuild the seats on my Alpine, something that has been on my = to do list for quite a while.  I am not sure when I will actually = get to it, but my plan is to have it done before spring arrives. =  But, before I start I have been thinking that maybe I could extend = the top down season a bit by installing seat warmers while I am at it. =  As far as I can see, they wouldn=E2=80=99t add more than a couple = of minutes to the reupholstery process and the wiring shouldn=E2=80=99t = be too bad as the car has a modern harness and alternator.  I just = did a quick search for Seat Warmers on Amazon and there are many = complete sets (bottom and back for two seats) in the $50-80 range, plus = a Dorman kit that runs $60 per seat.  (http://www.amazon.com/Dorman-628-040-Universal-Seat-Heater/dp/B= 002U6IL9O/ref=3Dsr_1_16?s=3Dautomotive&ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1451094179&= amp;sr=3D1-16&keywords=3Dcar+seat+heater)  Most seem to = have decent reviews and I can=E2=80=99t see anything in the Dorman units = - besides a brand name - to justify doubling the cost.  But, I = trust reviews here much more than on Amazon.  Has anyone here ever = installed universal warmers?  On a Little British Car or = equivalent?  Any recommendations?

As always, Thanks!
= --Apple-Mail=_37FDB52B-B8F1-4628-9F90-305DA0C863F0-- --===============7505977217923007431== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7505977217923007431==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 25 20:38:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719312587E47 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:38:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from haybaler.sackheads.org (haybaler.sackheads.org [136.248.123.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BD22587E37 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:38:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost.sackheads.org [127.0.0.1]) by haybaler.sackheads.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4077285FA for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 22:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from haybaler.sackheads.org ([136.248.123.228]) by localhost (haybaler.sackheads.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3F6yyYSQTC1J for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 22:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by haybaler.sackheads.org (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 75AA3285E7; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 22:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (cpe-74-138-152-195.kya.res.rr.com [74.138.152.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jimmie@sackheads.org) by haybaler.sackheads.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4709F285A7 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 22:43:06 -0500 (EST) To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: From: Jimmie Mayfield Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 22:43:05 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Seat Heaters Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8960895129608315743== boundary="------------010706000306070107020207" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010706000306070107020207 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Huh, I had no idea aftermarket seat-warmer kits existed and were safe. Maybe it's time to add heated seats to my 06 4Runner. I wonder how well these kits will perform with cloth seats? On 12/25/15 21:15, Jim Stone wrote: > ...I just did a quick search for Seat Warmers on Amazon and there are > many complete sets (bottom and back for two seats) in the $50-80 > range, plus a Dorman kit that runs $60 per seat. [...Amazon link > deleted...] But, I trust reviews here much more than on Amazon. Has > anyone here ever installed universal warmers? On a Little British Car > or equivalent? Any recommendations? --------------010706000306070107020207 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Huh, I had no idea aftermarket seat-warmer kits existed and were safe.  Maybe it's time to add heated seats to my 06 4Runner.  I wonder how well these kits will perform with cloth seats?



On 12/25/15 21:15, Jim Stone wrote:
...I just did a quick search for Seat Warmers on Amazon and there are many complete sets (bottom and back for two seats) in the $50-80 range, plus a Dorman kit that runs $60 per seat.  [...Amazon link deleted...] But, I trust reviews here much more than on Amazon.  Has anyone here ever installed universal warmers?  On a Little British Car or equivalent?  Any recommendations?


--------------010706000306070107020207-- --===============8960895129608315743== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8960895129608315743==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Dec 25 22:18:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E322587C20 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 22:18:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF51D25858EC for ; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 22:18:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [172.248.153.253] ([172.248.153.253:1660] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 2B/4E-16912-C342E765; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 05:23:08 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Shop Talk'" Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 21:23:08 -0800 Thread-Index: AdE/l5mYhfmz8dMFRNCNDd1UfWLzHwAAymvQ Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Seat Heaters Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > and I can't see anything in the Dorman units - > besides a brand name - Not necessarily relevant, but I'll never buy a Dorman product again. Kind of a long story, but they were the only source I could find for rear half shafts for my Buick wagon. I went through 4 of them before realizing that the shafts themselves were not made properly; the last time actually set the car on fire! With that axle, the shaft forms the inner race for the wheel bearing, and is supposed to have a hardened area where the rollers run. I don't know what they did wrong, but on every Dorman shaft, the bearing area spalled away and left a big groove in the axle. When it caught fire, I'd been driving in the hills and hadn't noticed that the brake shoes were mostly supporting the car (so the drum was red hot). When the seal finally melted from the heat, the axle oil running into the hot drum caught fire. Big scare, ruined vacation, and I don't know how many $1000 spent renting a car and a motel room, etc, on top of the $2000 to fix the axle (which had to be rebuilt again less than 1000 miles later, apparently because the first shop reused the Dorman shaft that hadn't already failed). Dorman used to be a quality, mostly made-in-USA name. But apparently the Dorman family sold the business some years ago, and now Dorman parts are mostly Chinese junk. YMMV, IMO, NFI and all that stuff. -- Randall _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 26 05:18:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B002587DB1 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 05:18:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from dogbert2.mail.megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5088E2584885 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 05:18:06 -0700 (MST) To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net From: eric@megageek.com Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 06:55:26 -0500 12/26/2015 06:55:05, Serialize complete at 12/26/2015 06:55:05 Subject: [Shop-talk] Am I getting this old already? (Shop content) Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0379894651159359373== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0044040985257F27_= First, I hope everything had a great Christmas and is looking forward to the new year. You know your a gear head when your ONLY gifts are gift cards to NAPA. 8>0 On to my shop content question.... I need a pallet jack with a built in scale. The problem is that it seems every single one with a non-electric dial indicator has been removed from the earth. I don't want another battery to have to make sure is charged the few times a year I need it. I'm also willing to pay real money (if needed). Anyone have a source for such a beast? And yes, I do feel 'old' when I'm searching for a NON-electric gadget. 8>) As for accuracy, I don't need +/_ 1/4" over 4000 LBS. Just close enough to get shipping quotes. I also thought to maybe retrofit one of my existing jacks with a hydro pressure gauge (and I like the idea of making it myself) but I can't find a place to tap into the jacks without interfering with the clearances and mechanics of them (they are very small, self contained pumps.) If you have a source for this conversion, I'll love that also! Thanks again! Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 0044040985257F27_= First, I hope everything had a great Christmas and is looking forward to the new year.  You know your a gear head when your ONLY gifts are gift cards to NAPA.  8>0

On to my shop content question....

I need a pallet jack with a built in scale.  The problem is that it seems every single one with a non-electric dial indicator has been removed from the earth.
I don't want another battery to have to make sure is charged the few times a year I need it.  I'm also willing to pay real money (if needed).

Anyone have a source for such a beast?

And yes, I do feel 'old' when I'm searching for a NON-electric gadget.  8>)  As for accuracy, I don't need +/_ 1/4" over 4000 LBS.  Just close enough to get shipping quotes.

I also thought to maybe retrofit one of my existing jacks with a hydro pressure gauge (and I like the idea of making it myself) but I can't find a place to tap into the jacks without interfering with the clearances and mechanics of them (they are very small, self contained pumps.)  

If you have a source for this conversion, I'll love that also!

Thanks again!


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 0044040985257F27_=-- --===============0379894651159359373== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0379894651159359373==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 26 08:04:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8DA2585972 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 08:04:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE952585930 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 08:04:04 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Wq+FREdXgt22JQqIFjLGCvTtv6tbH09+dhhFYJ3kfrEl1dLE23XDzAY4LQ30A6e5; h=Received:From:Subject:To:References:Cc:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [172.6.8.149] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1aCqSY-0006Rd-6e; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 10:08:42 -0500 From: Brian Kemp To: eric@megageek.com References: Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 07:08:10 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 Cc: shop-talk List Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Am I getting this old already? (Shop content) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I know it isn't as nice as what you are asking for, but depending on the weight, you could just use two or four bathroom scales. Use your existing pallet jack to raise the pallet and put a scale on each side or at each corner then pull out the pallet jack. Add the numbers and you are set. If you don't want to do math, look for a set of vehicle scales from a racing place and they will give you the total plus corner weights. Scales that can do a car should have plenty of capacity for a pallet. Brian On 12/26/2015 3:55 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote: > I need a pallet jack with a built in scale. The problem is that it > seems every single one with a non-electric dial indicator has been > removed from the earth. > I don't want another battery to have to make sure is charged the few > times a year I need it. I'm also willing to pay real money (if needed). _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 26 08:22:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924AE2587A5A for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 08:22:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from dogbert2.mail.megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5082587A3F for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 08:22:05 -0700 (MST) References: <567EAA91.7040705@earthlink.net> To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net From: eric@megageek.com Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:59:27 -0500 12/26/2015 09:59:04, Serialize complete at 12/26/2015 09:59:04 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Am I getting this old already? (Shop content) Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0123400141332874720== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0054DC8F85257F27_= Thanks for the thoughts, but I went down this path already. I have two large scales that I get the weight with now and I'm not getting consistent results (plus it's a pain to balance 1100 LBS pallets on them.) As for the vehicle scales, I looked at them but I don't want to have to take up so much space (there are also dedicated pallet scales) and I don't want to have to bring the items to a place in the shop. A pallet scale is the answer, and I may have to bite the bullet and get the digital one 8>(. I just can't believe there isn't a single vender that sells them. Thanks again Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson I know it isn't' as nice as what you are asking for, but depending on the weight, you could just use two or four bathroom scales. Use your existing pallet jack to raise the pallet and put a scale on each side or at each corner then pull out the pallet jack. Add the numbers and you are set. If you don't want to do math, look for a set of vehicle scales from a racing place and they will give you the total plus corner weights. Scales that can do a car should have plenty of capacity for a pallet. --=_alternative 0054DC8F85257F27_= Thanks for the thoughts, but I went down this path already. I have two large scales that I get the weight with now and I'm not getting consistent results (plus it's a pain to balance 1100 LBS pallets on them.)

As for the vehicle scales, I looked at them but I don't want to have to take up so much space (there are also dedicated pallet scales) and I don't want to have to bring the items to a place in the shop.
A pallet scale is the answer, and I may have to bite the bullet and get the digital one 8>(.  I just can't believe there isn't a single vender that sells them.

Thanks again


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson




I know it isn't' as nice as what you are asking for, but depending on the weight, you could just use two or four bathroom scales.  Use your existing pallet jack to raise the pallet and put a scale on each side or at each corner then pull out the pallet jack.  Add the numbers and you are set.

If you don't want to do math, look for a set of vehicle scales from a racing place and they will give you the total plus corner weights.  Scales that can do a car should have plenty of capacity for a pallet.

--=_alternative 0054DC8F85257F27_=-- --===============0123400141332874720== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0123400141332874720==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 26 08:27:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7820D2587AF8 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 08:27:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC3S27.hotmail.com (bay004-omc3s27.hotmail.com [65.54.190.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8520D2587A50 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 08:24:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.54.190.188]) by BAY004-OMC3S27.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Sat, 26 Dec 2015 07:29:40 -0800 Received: from CY1PR13MB0503.namprd13.prod.outlook.com (10.164.70.145) by CY1PR13MB0503.namprd13.prod.outlook.com (10.164.70.145) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.365.9; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:29:38 +0000 Received: from CY1PR13MB0503.namprd13.prod.outlook.com ([10.164.70.145]) by CY1PR13MB0503.namprd13.prod.outlook.com ([10.164.70.145]) with mapi id 15.01.0365.016; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:29:37 +0000 From: "Tim ." To: "Shop Talk" Thread-Topic: cold temp seam sealer Thread-Index: AQHRP/Ei6UGBkqLi0kCbZmiZrNJpig== Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:29:37 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US header.d=none; autox.team.net; dmarc=none action=none header.from=outlook.com; x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [S6uzGyzHxGrVDIU3VAZ5Men1Hs4ZEcWN] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; CY1PR13MB0503; 23:gKtHmqUQLpxPHXYQx6/ucrgemc8KQkQL0l8DA4ahOXW+s/Y5FvpnxJm3d4nK/pHbhWCF3g+yzDmAfEZIODVbFDOgQV0Ygkhu1KrTWJi9wQ4aD/NvPZLQK/EeKVUwRdbkDJuYRx13q29/ZFepfY3Ypoq3wpKp54wGEex/LE65dCDdanajdJR6VTXVIhVmo1xRzCglMniYllOwriQMciKZnw==; 5:QyKEdnJuCacxHgszTo5qmI5VkG8U0yZulZ8vxL5W0pleIfF021d0jZ6jw4q4yF9QIhTpl2Yke6m5OegDxALESARuPt3xgtW4rg83tkWEKH73bKZpnHO0rplF3wQkYOv+t05mUw6Z2GrY1YWaYSqMPA==; 24:lp6MCCUtn6H/vDDBeLbbpd+kDWvFxREaVGRya9eAF/GN7FS8WOsIeDgOrnW4lGkQGbaZNvxr8fj0ErSmtyy9hhc2vs1c+kXD25c96N+9NUE= x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CY1PR13MB0503; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(432015012)(82015046); SRVR:CY1PR13MB0503; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CY1PR13MB0503; x-forefront-prvs: 0802ADD973 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(7070004)(98900002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1901; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR13MB0503; H:CY1PR13MB0503.namprd13.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM FILETIME=[3C95C9A0:01D13FF2] Subject: [Shop-talk] cold temp seam sealer Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1540237937693502293== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_CY1PR13MB05038EFA5050D3ECF9F8AE0BB4F90CY1PR13MB0503namp_" --_000_CY1PR13MB05038EFA5050D3ECF9F8AE0BB4F90CY1PR13MB0503namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I have a spot I want to at least temporarily seal until I can either replac= e a rusty spot or more permanently seal it when the weather is warmer. The other day when it was warmish (mid 50s) I tried to use silicon but it w= on't cure as the temp is now closer to normal. This spot is next to the tru= nk weather strip where the deck lid sits on my 99 Solara so will continue t= o get exposed to water. So, the question is if anyone has used a seam or metal sealant that will se= al and cure in cold temperatures. Thanks tim --_000_CY1PR13MB05038EFA5050D3ECF9F8AE0BB4F90CY1PR13MB0503namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,


I have a spot I want to at least temporarily seal until I can eithe= r replace a rusty spot or more permanently seal it when the weather is warm= er.


The other day when it was warmish (mid 50s) I tried to use silicon but i= t won't cure as the temp is now closer to normal. This spot is next to the trunk w= eather strip where the deck lid sits on my 99 Solara so will continue to ge= t exposed to water.


So, the question is if anyone has used a seam or metal sealant that will= seal and cure in cold temperatures.


Thanks

tim

--_000_CY1PR13MB05038EFA5050D3ECF9F8AE0BB4F90CY1PR13MB0503namp_-- --===============1540237937693502293== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1540237937693502293==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 26 09:00:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FB22587DF7 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:00:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E412585BC2 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:00:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from Steve-PC.optonline.net (ool-44c2b54e.dyn.optonline.net [68.194.181.78]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-9.20 (built Jul 15 2010)) with ESMTPA id <0NZZ00AKJ3C53LH0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:04:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 10:56:37 -0500 From: Steven Trovato To: eric@megageek.com, shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Am I getting this old already? (Shop content) Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5432741079415344596== boundary="Boundary_(ID_O8aoCx34NyWHBCnlyWavYw)" --Boundary_(ID_O8aoCx34NyWHBCnlyWavYw) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT If you can't find want you want, make a point of checking on the battery requirements of the digital model. I find that infrequently used items that require a couple of AA cells are not so bad. It is the ones with the hard to find mystery cells that require a search all over town that are a pain. That's one of my complaints with the rechargeable tools available today. As years go by they stop holding a charge and the batteries get hard to find or it just stops being cost effective. Meanwhile, I have plug-in tools that my father bought 50 years ago and they still work fine. So there. Now we both sound old. -Steve Trovato strovato@optonline.net At 06:55 AM 12/26/2015, eric@megageek.com wrote: >I need a pallet jack with a built in scale. The problem is that it >seems every single one with a non-electric dial indicator has been >removed from the earth. >I don't want another battery to have to make sure is charged the few >times a year I need it. I'm also willing to pay real money (if needed). --Boundary_(ID_O8aoCx34NyWHBCnlyWavYw) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT If you can't find want you want, make a point of checking on the battery requirements of the digital model.  I find that infrequently used items that require a couple of AA cells are not so bad.  It is the ones with the hard to find mystery cells that require a search all over town that are a pain. 

That's one of my complaints with the rechargeable tools available today.  As years go by they stop holding a charge and the batteries get hard to find or it just stops being cost effective.  Meanwhile, I have plug-in tools that my father bought 50 years ago and they still work fine. 

So there.  Now we both sound old.

-Steve Trovato
strovato@optonline.net


At 06:55 AM 12/26/2015, eric@megageek.com wrote:
I need a pallet jack with a built in scale.  The problem is that it seems every single one with a non-electric dial indicator has been removed from the earth.
I don't want another battery to have to make sure is charged the few times a year I need it.  I'm also willing to pay real money (if needed).
--Boundary_(ID_O8aoCx34NyWHBCnlyWavYw)-- --===============5432741079415344596== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5432741079415344596==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 26 09:13:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DAB25853A9 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:13:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-io0-f182.google.com (mail-io0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFE02584A22 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:08:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-io0-f182.google.com with SMTP id e126so276364738ioa.1 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 08:13:41 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dAxjDzsVNMXoBpvW41JZfRoRY8aSYwRZsXWiJ9LAttc=; b=eiJPir1+a9Vj1wKsW14mhZfdBmzvMcvdzZLNx+ZOqBA1A3f/ycIkXLhNKsCOaGaLl4 g/oAActEmphF+zZh88idja/mt9SpYLTC3jNQDBNiOJMQxLy6TiYVy+gmkm3uLuo0rmpw MG80CcsBkmZVggVsFGAAXSWGpCDv/639aVNvWRx6214cPasCMLG4NOUD5MOpaXbdd7Nq PXzGjQ1acTNZlOoEc3MvArMc8tpop4uJ+uwW+co/adg+yutS3JyIMrUcIo7aAYbrs5by pf4einKRGG9KSn79z6DVM92FJV4qRHh6XIRrCr5+WxJfZTPj0+wv/kHV5fNWIjGKZJ+w 6mDw== Sat, 26 Dec 2015 08:13:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.206.7 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 08:13:40 -0800 (PST) References: <567EAA91.7040705@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:13:40 -0500 From: Jeff Scarbrough To: eric@megageek.com Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Am I getting this old already? (Shop content) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 9:59 AM, wrote: > I may have to bite the bullet and get the digital one 8>(. You may be getting that old. :) I imagine that, as sad as it is to consider, the market of a non-electronic pallet scale may be limited to one guy, and he only uses it a few times a year. You sure a set of portable vehicle scales, or three or four bathroom scales from the Habitat ReStore, won't suffice for the few times you use it? I bet you're getting inconsistent results because you load is shifting when balancing on two scales - three points would solve that problem. Or perhaps a rental jack? Dunno if that's actually a possibility...sounds like you may use the pallet jack a lot and the weighing ability just a little? Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 26 11:33:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4301258531E for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:33:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555E02584B6E for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:31:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from [172.248.153.253] ([172.248.153.253:3768] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 29/FA-17532-40EDE765; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 18:35:48 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Tim .'" , "'Shop Talk'" Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 10:35:48 -0800 Thread-Index: AQHRP/Ei6UGBkqLi0kCbZmiZrNJpip7dllbA Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] cold temp seam sealer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > So, the question is if anyone has used a seam or metal > sealant that will seal and cure in cold temperatures. I've used JB Weld at 50F and it seemed to work OK. Might have been slower to cure, but I left it overnight and it was hard in the morning. Their instructions don't give a minimum temperature where it will work, just say that it works faster above 10C (which is 50F). Use fiberglass cloth if you need to bridge an opening or strength is important. The other possibility is temporarily rigging a heat lamp to warm the area. -- Randall _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 26 11:58:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1063B25862DA for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:58:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail.avvanta.com (smtp61.avvanta.com [206.124.128.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7683225862DA for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:57:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.avvanta.com (localhost.drteeth.p.blarg.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.avvanta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B1BF3966 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from BigBlackIvy.racertodd.com (50-46-115-190.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net [50.46.115.190]) by mail.avvanta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB35F394B for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:00:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 10:59:49 -0800 To: shop-talk@autox.team.net From: Todd Walke d13.prod.outlook.com> BlargAV v1.1 on localhost.drteeth.p.blarg.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] cold temp seam sealer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net How about 3M Strip Caulk? It's pretty pliable in cold temps, will handle exposure to water. I assume it would stick to cold metal. Maybe store it inside so it's warm and soft when you apply it. Doesn't really "cure", so I don't think it's as sensitive to temperature. If the surface it needs to stick to is rusty, a quick pass with a wire brush to get rid of the loose rust might help it stick to good metal. Todd Seattle,WA '86 GTI, Red of course. (exciting racey car) 276,000 miles '01 Golf TDI, silver. (new work car) 547,000 miles '87 Golf, Polar Silver. (retired work car) 654,000 miles <- Gone to a new home :( http://www.pureluckdesign.com <-Ferrari & VW stuff _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 26 12:48:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25E92585EFE for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 12:48:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail.milleredp.com (unknown [198.144.208.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592782585B06 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 12:46:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.1.2.100] ([::ffff:10.1.2.100]) (AUTH: PLAIN jem, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,AES128-SHA) by mail.milleredp.com with ESMTPSA; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:50:57 -0800 id 000000000028001B.00000000567EEFA1.00005679 To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: <29.FA.17532.40EDE765@cdptpa-oedge03> From: John Miller Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:50:42 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] cold temp seam sealer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On 12/26/2015 10:35 AM, Randall wrote: > >> So, the question is if anyone has used a seam or metal >> sealant that will seal and cure in cold temperatures. The other option, of course, and the approach I'd take, is to find a heat lamp or some obnoxiously hot halogen worklight and warm the metal and keep it warm (heat lamp, etc.) while the sealer cures. If you've got one of those non-contact infrared pyrometers you can shoot for 75degF surface temp, too hot and most sealers would get runny. I like the 2-part SEM seam sealer, though I've always wondered: it requires its own applicator gun, but it looks like Simpson Strong-Tie foundation epoxy, comes out of the tube about the same consistency, cures in about the same time, has about the same flexibility once cured. JB Weld might be an option, as would Smooth-On Metalset A4. Make sure to get the damage completely clean on both inside and outside, sandblast or lots of wire-wheel attention plus some Rust-Mort then clean it again, apply the chosen adhesive, and force it through the hole and smear it flush on both sides. I've done this with a reasonable degree of permanence on small, hidden areas of damage. John. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Dec 26 20:48:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC27A258633E for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 20:48:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC3S8.hotmail.com (bay004-omc3s8.hotmail.com [65.54.190.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5B0258633A for ; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 20:48:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.54.190.189]) by BAY004-OMC3S8.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Sat, 26 Dec 2015 19:53:32 -0800 Received: from CY1PR13MB0504.namprd13.prod.outlook.com (10.164.70.146) by CY1PR13MB0281.namprd13.prod.outlook.com (10.163.93.14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.365.9; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 03:53:30 +0000 Received: from CY1PR13MB0503.namprd13.prod.outlook.com (10.164.70.145) by CY1PR13MB0504.namprd13.prod.outlook.com (10.164.70.146) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.365.9; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 03:53:29 +0000 Received: from CY1PR13MB0503.namprd13.prod.outlook.com ([10.164.70.145]) by CY1PR13MB0503.namprd13.prod.outlook.com ([10.164.70.145]) with mapi id 15.01.0365.016; Sun, 27 Dec 2015 03:53:29 +0000 From: "Tim ." To: "Shop Talk" Thread-Topic: cold temp seam sealer Thread-Index: AQHRP/Ei6UGBkqLi0kCbZmiZrNJpip7eMslI Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 03:53:29 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US header.d=none; autox.team.net; dmarc=none action=none header.from=outlook.com; x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [7Poz7AX1adY1dgpZHh37w+Gsi9i1lJuG] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; CY1PR13MB0504; 23:jvDukEpug60Qs7wsWw+Ck8+uK2+eONXJ+Vhzh4D/6y/r5avL0bTcCTIhUxxowUYu80H/dfKLzOsdbWDyDY0Q9jb+VSPCgvido1ZQIh1sEE4qN+hZd1EqEzzEEwrN0Flp4hPwNSE51xEB4MqXqiT8GZfhKbcI6H7xlcFsRjWbgJ3PyipIQDA4T7E6frTJsCJlNSuretsv8BpjfPWt+U1PBA==; 5:V+nbmOcL1ZIlt2zkzhHXoPs0ZFgYt/W9DE++lsgEMgvVyqUoMXFn6nBvl+HLDZ7BcIOnhOfwbTzHdg3sV7JdLZdbiXr+KOo/0x5pOAipK2bNOMNwODbW5FiVzf+SffpLFqUEuSbXxL7mdfiSOjqSWA==; 24:3OW4DjOPxcA8KGhJbIIh/jVf3bpH/b3UTcknZxatIOZXfkkfqp8SaSEWwHy3Nhc7k43l8tn47or2/izPNROL/ET1/ukvXl+1WNr4E4OYAJg= x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CY1PR13MB0504; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(432015012)(82015046); SRVR:CY1PR13MB0504; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CY1PR13MB0504; x-forefront-prvs: 0803A0241F x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(7070004)(98900002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1901; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR13MB0504; H:CY1PR13MB0503.namprd13.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM 2:cTLzvia3EovS33FNt0gun1sfD8MK5xqoBUElvdAxROAG6hUCjAq7ygsEKMUd1QAxg5JMrJhjhKeRkVKRugosMKB7A9nMWeE5euvHA6ST3ndcxJqUkIM1MMkX6HsGrno+MbGPKaSHWChL1qCbeoNNSw==; 23:mUkZBwHvPPHDiMgI1Rs8FnXl4J2nXqssr0NaXtORecr3afYGiztExDoD7aYbrCBfmFRfJKrCDpwGe9r4zGFVWurNfG62oV9sdZBi0S0fvHcieR+76igrhOX/KzKIM840zsf9LKn25J1NGOZccU0Fzm8X3xMQhusx/IuoZla1mFM= FILETIME=[2770C030:01D1405A] Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] cold temp seam sealer Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6640575894718200801== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_CY1PR13MB050368DC9E9641FAABC13797B4FA0CY1PR13MB0503namp_" --_000_CY1PR13MB050368DC9E9641FAABC13797B4FA0CY1PR13MB0503namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd suggested "3M Strip Caulk" . I like this idea as it would be permanent. I will need to remove some of th= is metal to stop the tin worm. For now I just need to stop the water gettin= g into the boot through this failed seam. thanks Todd!! beers on me! tim ________________________________ From: Shop-talk on behalf of Tim . Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 9:29 AM To: Shop Talk Subject: [Shop-talk] cold temp seam sealer Hi all, I have a spot I want to at least temporarily seal until I can either replac= e a rusty spot or more permanently seal it when the weather is warmer. The other day when it was warmish (mid 50s) I tried to use silicon but it w= on't cure as the temp is now closer to normal. This spot is next to the tru= nk weather strip where the deck lid sits on my 99 Solara so will continue t= o get exposed to water. So, the question is if anyone has used a seam or metal sealant that will se= al and cure in cold temperatures. Thanks tim --_000_CY1PR13MB050368DC9E9641FAABC13797B4FA0CY1PR13MB0503namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Todd suggested "3M Strip Caulk" .


I like this idea as it would be permanent. I will need to remove some of= this metal to stop the tin worm. For now I just need to stop the water get= ting into the boot through this failed seam.


thanks Todd!!

beers on me!


tim



From: Shop-talk <shop-= talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@ou= tlook.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 9:29 AM
To: Shop Talk
Subject: [Shop-talk] cold temp seam sealer
 

Hi all,


I have a spot I want to at least temporarily seal until I can eithe= r replace a rusty spot or more permanently seal it when the weather is warm= er.


The other day when it was warmish (mid 50s) I tried to use silicon but i= t won't cure as the temp is now closer to normal. This spot is next to the = trunk weather strip where the deck lid sits on my 99 Solara so will continu= e to get exposed to water.


So, the question is if anyone has used a seam or metal sealant that will= seal and cure in cold temperatures.


Thanks

tim

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