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Itbs turning about 800 rpm the rating is 3.9 to 9.6 ACFM @ 175psig with a 2-3 hp motor... Ibm wondering if it will handle a small (bench top) or small upright sand blast cabinet without laboring it to death Harbor Freight rates their 40# upright model at 9.5 cfm at 90 psi.. A NESCO about the same size says 12 cfm at 80 psi... An ATLAS says 15 cfm at 100 psi sounds like blast cabinets are rated like lawn mower engine horsepower ratings !!!!! any ideas if I have enough compressor ?? thanks John _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 10:39:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB80A2D0988 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:39:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6DA2D08C6 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:36:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0FoG1j0021eYJf8A3Gd3xj; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:37:03 +0000 Received: from sz0054.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.26.106]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0Gd31j00i2HMFy401Gd3gH; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:37:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:37:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Spidell To: John Niolon Message-ID: <1950378708.1178187.1334939823041.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [12.133.179.130] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Probably not. My dad has a large IR 2-stage; probably a 'real' 7HP or greater on I believe (at least) a 60-gal tank (maybe 80). It struggles to keep up with his blast cabinet--the compressor is off for the first 5min or so of blasting, then has to run almost continuously thereafter. >From what I know of fluid dynamics--not much--I've always wondered what a large tank offers. Yes, the tank will put out more air before it reaches min pressure and the compressor fires, but then the compressor has to run longer to replace the volume of air lost. Seems to me you need the most powerful compressor you can get, regardless of tank size, so the compressor can replenish the tank quickly then get a rest cycle. I think the 'HP' and 'gallons' numbers aren't particularly relevant; what you need to know is what volume of air at what pressure the compressor can put out (maybe that's the second set of numbers you mentioned; it's not clear to me). The tank just 'buffers' the air flow. Maybe a guru can enlighten us. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Niolon" To: "shop-talk" Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 8:42:33 AM Subject: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question Ibve got a Quincy 310 compressor sitting on a 80 gallon tank... using a 5 hp motor. Itbs turning about 800 rpm the rating is 3.9 to 9.6 ACFM @ 175psig with a 2-3 hp motor... Ibm wondering if it will handle a small (bench top) or small upright sand blast cabinet without laboring it to death Harbor Freight rates their 40# upright model at 9.5 cfm at 90 psi.. A NESCO about the same size says 12 cfm at 80 psi... An ATLAS says 15 cfm at 100 psi sounds like blast cabinets are rated like lawn mower engine horsepower ratings !!!!! any ideas if I have enough compressor ?? thanks John _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 10:40:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3EC2D096F for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:40:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail955c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail955c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FE52D08C6 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:37:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail955c35.nsolutionszone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail955c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q3KGbO4c021555 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:37:24 GMT Received: (from webmail@localhost) by mail955c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.12.2/Submit) id q3KGbOlp021554; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:37:24 GMT Received: from 99-194-2-208.dyn.centurytel.net (99-194-2-208.dyn.centurytel.net [99.194.2.208]) by webmail2.centurytel.net (Webmail 4.0 V.V.I.) with HTTP for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:37:24 -0400 Message-ID: <20120420123724.i1p7xqf4l83ogcok@webmail2.centurytel.net> From: ejrussell@mebtel.net To: "shop-talk" , "John Niolon" Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:37:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Webmail 4.0 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=VT00BWFkMma0L3xUQgPxsFVGXxbtKF0nm3TQ5O50Nb4= c=1 sm=1 a=vFMCQZgPscsA:10 a=TxmsWfLa9i4A:10 a=P2oOn6vrs4wA:10 a=GPr01A5e9VcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=FGc7JLguAAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=2ZN0B1RnRAsvjIkQk3oA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=WkljmVdYkabdwxfqvArNOQ==:117 X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.4F9190C5.000C,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: ejrussell@mebtel.net List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Do you know what the SCFM rating is at ~100 psi? That is more likely where you'll want to set the pressure for sandblasting. I suspect you've got an adequate air supply - especially for small items in a small cabinet. More important is a supply of dry air. Blasting does not like wet air. A run of metal pipe (copper or steel) will encourage the air to cool down and the water to condense out. Plan the air line leading to the cabinet such that it will not come off the bottom of a run to keep water out. See the air piping instructions at http://www.tptools.com/StaticText/airline-piping-diagram.pdf Eric Russell Mebane, NC Quoting John Niolon : > Ibve got a Quincy 310 compressor sitting on a 80 gallon tank... using a 5 hp > motor. Itbs turning about 800 rpm > > the rating is 3.9 to 9.6 ACFM @ 175psig with a 2-3 hp motor... > > Ibm wondering if it will handle a small (bench top) or small upright sand > blast cabinet without laboring it to death > > any ideas if I have enough compressor ?? > > thanks > John _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 13:05:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D262D087C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:05:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393442D043E for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:05:03 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Hvb06jvS c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=TxmsWfLa9i4A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=bjWAO9T7AZsBOYOHCpAA:9 a=_QEpN1pBIWLkNBq7c2QA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=jiKik8lB3RRZSmdU:21 a=q6zY6QMATPO190yB:21 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:36158] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 85/B4-16302-773B19F4; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 19:05:27 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: "'shop-talk'" References: <1950378708.1178187.1334939823041.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1950378708.1178187.1334939823041.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:05:26 -0700 Message-ID: <000301cd1f28$8c280bc0$a4782340$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0fFEyvg6YVqYjESoKu7G3XoSGm5AADtfZQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > Maybe a guru can enlighten us. I am certainly no guru; but my opinion is that as long as the compressor can keep up with the load, you don't need a large tank or a larger compressor. It won't hurt the compressor to run continuously, in fact it is probably worse (in terms of overall wear, power consumption etc) to keep starting and stopping it. The large tank is primarily an advantage in two ways: it lets you work longer with tools that take more air than the compressor can produce, and it allows for longer on/off cycles. In other words, it is actually an advantage to have the compressor off for longer, followed by being on for longer. (Among other things, every time the compressor stops, a certain amount of compressed air is vented to the atmosphere, so it doesn't have to start under full load next time.) Compressor "hp" ratings are indeed like lawnmower "hp", except maybe worse. CFM ratings seem to be a little more consistent to me, but you have to be very careful about what kind of CFM they are talking about. Air tools (like blast cabinets) seem to typically be rated in ACFM at their inlet; while compressors are generally rated in ACFM or SCFM (by which they really mean ACFM) at their inlet. The problem is that the ACFM at the outlet of a compressor (where the air tool is attached) is many times lower than the ACFM at the inlet! > Ibve got a Quincy 310 compressor sitting on a 80 gallon tank... using a > 5 hp motor. This probably falls into the fake hp department. According to Quincy, their 310 compressor is not suitable for more than 3 hp. > Itbs turning about 800 rpm According to Quincy's data sheet, that should be about 8 ACFM @ 175 psi; about 11 ACFM free air. For the sake of argument, let's assume 10 ACFM @ 90 psi. ACFM at the outlet is roughly the ACFM at the inlet times the ratio of absolute pressures. 90 psi is roughly 6 atmospheres "gauge" or 7 atmospheres absolute, so the pressure and CFM ratio is roughly 1:7. So the actual output is roughly 10/7 or 1.4 cfm. My small, bench top blast cabinet draws about 4 ACFM @ 90 psi. So no, I don't think you have enough compressor for continuous operation of the blast cabinet, unless your nozzle is a lot smaller than mine is (which is certainly possible). A cubic foot is about 7.5 US liquid gallons, so your 80 gallon tank holds about 10.6 cubic feet. If it is at 175 psi and you regulate the output down to 90 psi, that will expand to roughly 19cf @ 90 psi. If the gun is drawing 4 cfm and the compressor supplying 1.4 cfm, then you'll get about 19/2.6 or 7 minutes of blast cabinet operation before you'll have to stop and wait for the compressor to catch up. Depending on what you want to do, 7 minutes may be enough. I rarely spend that long on a single part; and the compressor could catch up while you are preparing the next part for blasting (removing all the loose scale, dirt, grease, etc). PS Feel free to "beat up" on my numbers. I've used only rough approximations to a lot of things, including using 15 psi for atmospheric pressure (it's closer to 14.7) and ignoring the effects of temperature changes and humidity. But I think the result is good enough to answer your question. -- Randall _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 16:21:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E472D06D6 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:21:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA69D2D06F8 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:16:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo109.cox.net ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120420221639.QEV8874.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo109.cox.net> for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:16:39 -0400 Received: from John-PC.cox.net ([24.254.211.88]) by eastrmimpo109.cox.net with bizsmtp id 0NGe1j00H1uzUvs02NGfCP; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:16:39 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4F91E047.0080,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oCnpYUhdmvqPuxLMq7fsn3FqY3je+Ql30gwju2dxGGE= c=1 sm=1 a=TxmsWfLa9i4A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uMyTlBfukKJCgtmHy1UhRw==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=q6SfDYXhAAAA:8 a=kys2UyXWj07vxxawFQMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=aav4MXMyVXkA:10 a=4zxjrV59PHAA:10 a=bz_d9vehOyUA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=EerZE6R1j-jfRHlQ:21 a=sMF4ALhz5_UPpLw1:21 a=uMyTlBfukKJCgtmHy1UhRw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.1.20120420181240.04c049d8@cox.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:16:42 -0400 To: "shop-talk" From: "John T. Blair" In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net At 11:42 AM 4/20/2012, John Niolon wrote: >Ibve got a Quincy 310 compressor sitting on a 80 gallon tank... using a 5 hp >motor. Itbs turning about 800 rpm the rating is 3.9 to 9.6 ACFM @ 175psig >with a 2-3 hp motor... >Ibm wondering if it will handle a small (bench top) or small upright sand >blast cabinet without laboring it to death John, For starters compressors are a lot like computer memory, disk size, and money; you never have enough. That said, I run a blast cabinet and a pressure blaster (not at the same time) with my craftsman 30 gal, 5 hp 110psi compressor. I can blow more air than my compressor can make, so every 5 to 15 minuites I have to take a break and let the compressor catch up. But one thing no one has mentioned, is the size of the nozzle. For a hobbiest, use the smallest (dia.) you can get. Then as it wears, and opens, you will use more and more air. You blasting will get slower and slower. John John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III 65 Rambler Classic Morgan: www.team.net/www/morgan Bricklin: www.bricklin.org If you can read this - Thank a teacher! If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!! From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy: e pluribus Unum, "from many, one." In God We Trust Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for oneself; freedom from control or restriction _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 16:39:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165E92D0992 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:39:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD05A2D08A0 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:37:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lagz14 with SMTP id z14so10200599lag.14 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:37:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=tUM5fLMuRSu0C904B8GaVPx8HsyYpXOA9cbbVPaFMSA=; b=KyU9B6UjbswyS0+EPQfmNKC6gST2hMOKYUkT5Xw59JVk4POZLId4u5Oijn2ly7aDld BgBijC9U8b/DW0eTJQS8qX/q7Ykxyb/nyTXuH9d6ksWMFn/smbn6BV22UfKAoUh4TW18 +JZ4iHA2FTtYN4tdqbxA8kmglLBgSDthYHWl3eKp5nDSLry6juJB/nrI5O54f2auNVdY LWjWc76Fcrrd2tIv15oqQNHvbWgC74GZgJEwbBSA7/Xma6Bx43aDDewZHJsC3EI7cZZb kz4ijLe2N0XLw98OYOb3rWgeMh28NroeR5OZMPaR/AE711Sd2k6hdmnSXZ2JxLX/uonq +QZQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.108.171 with SMTP id hl11mr7398084lab.29.1334961478319; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.145.98 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:37:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:37:58 -0400 Message-ID: From: Doug Braun To: John Niolon X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmd6oAHkahSsOaGz7lWZXze75lRB9M/lVsMEJ7Ms4XtHux5uZ4dg0Mhm965a5w+WVB4lphb X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net A permanent blast cabinet setup is so handy that it is worth putting up with a somewhat undersized compressor. You will have to stop and wait occasionally, but that will take less time than: 1: earning the money to buy a bigger compressor 2: Actually buying it. 3: Getting it delivered and hooked up. I have a 169.CFM, 6.5HP compressor, and it has no trouble at all running my cabinet, with a TP Tools medium-size nozzle. Doug On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:42 AM, John Niolon wrote: > Ib ve got a Quincy 310 compressor sitting on a 80 gallon tank... using a 5 > hp > motor. Itb s turning about 800 rpm > > the rating is 3.9 to 9.6 ACFM @ 175psig with a 2-3 hp motor... > > Ib m wondering if it will handle a small (bench top) or small upright sand > blast cabinet without laboring it to death > > Harbor Freight rates their 40# upright model at 9.5 cfm at 90 psi.. > > A NESCO about the same size says 12 cfm at 80 psi... > > An ATLAS says 15 cfm at 100 psi > > sounds like blast cabinets are rated like lawn mower engine horsepower > ratings > !!!!! > > any ideas if I have enough compressor ?? _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 16:54:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DEF2D0983 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:54:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C6A42D08E1 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:48:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 22:48:26 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.223] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 22:48:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 22:48:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 459278.2812.bm@omp1032.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 65833 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Apr 2012 22:48:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1334962106; bh=pXvprL6zekfOdQ7muvS58Ek53qA1OjyQP9ON2VuBHH8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WoC+q9K31JoWTIQM4qHHFmsz4XQFYTMJ+OWRTbiGsnB4B0nxy5l/ksbNhAsp/ux6NMvwA4fOnAMURMh7XOX97wjZIXPgwT+eBvN4193YI/fPbY8YeRTj+EalyYbP9+f6fPUyEO0uGFMnuk0dVOEkgFa2IXghBfaL6/mD7Xl+dm4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1/fBR+mgZde43CmbYT0wQLPHI+vpPyJLYDRBXOKwznX+q7LoqQEEBJqDym9rfm7vl+awN7i/xwCWKrTBa+MCVyQpUHVtz0K22/gfU8aetk64iPJ3ywnvFPh32h2M1x70Sl9ReZegXq52pesYo4X2nUhgTvN1ihkKmXgyC5dk2c8=; X-YMail-OSG: eRw5nDQVM1mHVMNKhYTcwnFrYx9hepT7uQGMK2kHjUdwhFJ hGcBxjxiz7DjJ90b32_SVEPzKnsbxpvAdMGcdGfTVpThV4_4_OipddOqaquK 88FKa22WXCPDQ1MUMYZS8xo0BrqW.US6mncYccxW.b4kZnr1CXBGy.Qi8c5S CH3Y_fg8ss1EnLwBzBU4mpUtkmc.y1K4gKJlMkCPrDREUjpjk0qSQ3eaQ6kK YwkUtwtKLDSqalxO2qVzM7.JqNQRsI7hqSYhQM7ny_aRGaxax4MeNrbm9hRK V37kybBNri_W87iu.eg6nt.vrbRNJYs.wM2zgR_G6puklIHpH3PAxt6QdWAv kgtiP6bsfoynpbnmyi6SXNQXoOBVxat8hQw3eBRbzMvtcvzn20M7WsWe5Ggw hSDVPApqqbp4dPiiWxqIuVENR_sQeSr7lt.p.9z.bmfHa.oUHLw8FJ0SE0eg eXctXpDYmOB1vpIUiC1X.aqyCDBmhB2fwM5C_3s9.QTwE1jSC2JGJia9l5Ae bYygZi0GxpWv02ZlHgxSG5ylTSeIn7PeroKyGR61zH7ZzrSGx1hXiTnQxpyG 0VO2bV.3Sd4UMBG1.zJ9R73NFSV6nF75sGeI- Received: from [70.177.194.184] by web161303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:48:26 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: <6.2.5.6.1.20120420181240.04c049d8@cox.net> Message-ID: <1334962106.61764.YahooMailNeo@web161303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:48:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Hare To: "John T. Blair" , shop-talk In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.1.20120420181240.04c049d8@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Hare List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net You have more than enough pressure & more importantly, volume to run a small blast cabinet. I've run a 6.5 HP / 60 gallon rated at 9.4 SCFM for years on a small blast cabinet. I finally stepped up & added a second 60 gallon air receiver, and piped my entire shop with 3/4 galvanized pipe. Now my compressor runs alot less. So I'd say that the increased volume really stopped my compressor from running all the time. Oh yea, John Blair has my old bench top blast cabinet, and I'm glad to see he is still using it! Bob Hare (eBay id: rhare34) Virginia Beach, Va. 1934 Ford Streetrod Pickup 2005 Ford Five Hundred Limited If you can read this, thank a teacher.... If you are reading this in English, thank a Veteran....... ________________________________ From: John T. Blair To: shop-talk Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question At 11:42 AM 4/20/2012, John Niolon wrote: >Ibve got a Quincy 310 compressor sitting on a 80 gallon tank... using a 5 hp >motor. Itbs turning about 800 rpm the rating is 3.9 to 9.6 ACFM @ 175psig >with a 2-3 hp motor... >Ibm wondering if it will handle a small (bench top) or small upright sand >blast cabinet without laboring it to death John, For starters compressors are a lot like computer memory, disk size, and money; you never have enough. That said, I run a blast cabinet and a pressure blaster (not at the same time) with my craftsman 30 gal, 5 hp 110psi compressor. I can blow more air than my compressor can make, so every 5 to 15 minuites I have to take a break and let the compressor catch up. But one thing no one has mentioned, is the size of the nozzle. For a hobbiest, use the smallest (dia.) you can get. Then as it wears, and opens, you will use more and more air. You blasting will get slower and slower. John John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III 65 Rambler Classic Morgan: www.team.net/www/morgan Bricklin: www.bricklin.org If you can read this - Thank a teacher! If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!! >From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy: e pluribus Unum, "from many, one." In God We Trust Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for oneself; freedom from control or restriction _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/rhare34@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 16:55:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBE52D09B1 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:55:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nm14-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm14-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EC3E2D081C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:51:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 22:51:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.249] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 22:51:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1062.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 22:51:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 415873.6811.bm@omp1062.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 37455 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Apr 2012 22:51:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1334962297; bh=PmXVB54een/0Cvf49rB/TeCfVa4cdBi2liX7Ur3IJYQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ThHzLSjAMN2i7aYygEsq1ECwH5ZcJIEaL5yO9Wde3wjPwtDN80H4DBcJpVCuV+SucOPToER/spsOAObv4FbpRrTqiO3Gkyy+udr5jfALrghKGNaTRtj68xGOIvkblNEZGRYh/WqE8ZW0UheZA/XkDgGzBKwq84fCi/mYgXilu14= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M5FOU3TSsxi9zl4RO1dFFvaCzlxYNk8MuX5ufc/0COgu0ILF0Re2ljOYpss427F6tqjpwuwxROtOV4q+HMJJ+bdXkFcOnLo3pUUgSKTHnT/43UkBhPi2W+zNs418MRL4Ojb0KQkaYj0/nAz7QY9QHQ/8WsfYJ6L6MO/qPuwQsn8=; X-YMail-OSG: 0BqaVWMVM1kbCTwgW4HWCMAS_nSPNtoacGZvPlsJJ.d6.4y JcNAv_5Br6RJR6Uvdm52bEB2xcGzwWNLE26EKLSDg4Ek1Q2e676qS82M7LBi K8tx7gGLXs9txoQVP8UB20bYkGu0R3e0V.leR_eWS3_CHiQ6Z1kV7m8DXtHi 1N2aDUAatNcpo0hPOnll4bNK_UTwmyfWnjW9ofEgZH_kiqbuPyytHi3fobYX c7b97.Sw1FILI1JKHf6.kpsXLtMpxGQ94.ukdaAWGwObxp7Oilg9asrm5j2D 0H4WYTmPFAZ..6Olwa4KQTu_JQK4a81CrJRaeCcdgyuPNmvfXBi6MI0gQrx4 GU1M1EXPuRGl92LDZBJtJcpzcGujslcIyYnFSVzBBppheqg_3dH9YvvlsX2O Hrf632iJL8CpK6yRrXmSiiXzIlPmO4i2A50QryQMkg8j5.dyilGZz2cGu885 u18vZp_t0idwhYg69qSDrDTvk9MI8eMTZANBtHw0lPkhokbIsO9q_7Pmb7CL DkSSGMfT85wrzvJkBPAzoaaelIKjQtOr7cAh5vQi.HPb9W.ais1iXsyyRf3d aEDbqFz5tgtgkosxf5L1.OZZOZYijrDDR Received: from [70.177.194.184] by web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:51:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: Message-ID: <1334962297.88207.YahooMailNeo@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:51:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Hare To: Doug Braun , John Niolon In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Hare List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net BTW, I'm running a Tip Tools medium nozzle on a home built blast cabinet. www.tptools.com Bob Hare (eBay id: rhare34) Virginia Beach, Va. 1934 Ford Streetrod Pickup 2005 Ford Five Hundred Limited If you can read this, thank a teacher.... If you are reading this in English, thank a Veteran....... ________________________________ From: Doug Braun To: John Niolon Cc: shop-talk Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question A permanent blast cabinet setup is so handy that it is worth putting up with a somewhat undersized compressor. You will have to stop and wait occasionally, but that will take less time than: 1: earning the money to buy a bigger compressor 2: Actually buying it. 3: Getting it delivered and hooked up. I have a 169.CFM, 6.5HP compressor, and it has no trouble at all running my cabinet, with a TP Tools medium-size nozzle. Doug On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:42 AM, John Niolon wrote: > Ib ve got a Quincy 310 compressor sitting on a 80 gallon tank... using a 5 > hp > motor. Itb s turning about 800 rpm > > the rating is 3.9 to 9.6 ACFM @ 175psig with a 2-3 hp motor... > > Ib m wondering if it will handle a small (bench top) or small upright sand > blast cabinet without laboring it to death > > Harbor Freight rates their 40# upright model at 9.5 cfm at 90 psi.. > > A NESCO about the same size says 12 cfm at 80 psi... > > An ATLAS says 15 cfm at 100 psi > > sounds like blast cabinets are rated like lawn mower engine horsepower > ratings > !!!!! > > any ideas if I have enough compressor ?? _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/rhare34@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 08:08:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC71E2D04F8 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:08:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id F2BB92D04EE for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:07:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.195] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 14:08:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.50] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 14:08:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 14:08:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ameritech.net; s=s1024; t=1335103697; bh=mnc431W5m1DV7TETowoj22s/ue5z6T9KSEDqrLj2BU8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Reply-To:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=FbQcp5qAglULG5xq2ymNihvMubwEbk45/Nfqw0iqAm+t6b4vZO6z1jH5vW8ztUSARJOiK4POluzPzZZMzO4ZwNB/4TWoIKV6A7/Oa7NocA34jDzKmL0wvlOixGTUBWtFhiEvuYhUuM55NO0yMvIfXEFdzTWot3GrMdPLNOCMISA= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 422777.36175.bm@smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: HEDanVsVM1m6zACvLGlZYd9w0z7Aq7g7e1gdKFKQyNesa6_ QPWE1SduWPKczoz00jwYWsTevrYENOwR3ajWThJnx0bFfUqwHGq1GWU5WNdG 5nUfXGD9NppUOVMoQBtmtg9PXd8xwE2.e9Mm1sZAQximjWbff0j0GUZqzdLl 97DATD0.5S1n051rENjDPO__Qbqzee2s1crhbkrZllXKjrPYhDunnjE1TWOV et5IVJJfMYlQKTJhe3DyOuJFqq6_AHnFpZHGv3Y1v1bS_y8xbVbiYb.nR3nH Nge3svAr.h2h5uvEOSKLRED13rrvN2HNziO1.r4xA0iRo2W3ER6KdTX_Slmh g.obWA3BmFqh1A7bsEv8VdkkCInyFyoJwpp2oRkHajUZzcTJ6Thdx5kMw.fQ tOrK.ilMgizZiEH7AXlBPjSrIbQLktaW2qy.8Nyh2EWlOQjUlgGXCJNqmY1U aX2ekXZE1vRNs2wA2WU7itHaMg5e_UaqUHFjj8oLyWBzKdvoybLkydt30J_I l0lfnxA57cVeIl0Xs X-Yahoo-SMTP: eqwsT4aswBBxVpQFYj2J9q9jdeg1Bew59RIy4rR4irEw Received: from Karl (kvacek@75.3.143.170 with login) by smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2012 07:08:17 -0700 PDT From: "Karl Vacek" To: "'John Niolon'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:08:15 -0500 Message-ID: <00ba01cd2091$5cfa32a0$16ee97e0$@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFX6jgcEDsKOGnZZQ3q8B6vIdOCM5eRSgVA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: KVacek@Ameritech.net List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net John, Blasting quickly takes a huge amount of air - as someone else said, it's like computer RAM - you could always use more. I have that exact cabinet - certainly one of the nicest things Harbor Freight has ever offered. My compressor is a 2-stage, "real" 2-HP motor (a little over 12 amps at 220V single-phase) and puts out about 7 SCFM. Handles my old-style paint guns just fine - the ones that take 7 SCFM - I can paint all day without any problem. But for blasting, I use the smallest nozzle of the several that come with the cabinet, and I can only blast for a few minutes at decent pressure and then it gets to the less-effective pressure range. If I just keep blasting the compressor will be able to keep it a little above 60 PSI,. It works, especially on very light rust or thin paint, but that's just not enough to blast most things off very quickly. Soon I hope to get a new pump for my 5-HP, 80-gallon upright compressor, and I anticipate that will be just about enough for average blasting. Even with that though, I'll probably have to do the toughest jobs in spurts, while the tank is at or near max pressure, and then wait for it to build back up again. Karl -----Original Message----- From: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Niolon Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 10:43 To: shop-talk Subject: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question Ibve got a Quincy 310 compressor sitting on a 80 gallon tank... using a 5 hp motor. Itbs turning about 800 rpm the rating is 3.9 to 9.6 ACFM @ 175psig with a 2-3 hp motor... Ibm wondering if it will handle a small (bench top) or small upright sand blast cabinet without laboring it to death Harbor Freight rates their 40# upright model at 9.5 cfm at 90 psi.. A NESCO about the same size says 12 cfm at 80 psi... An ATLAS says 15 cfm at 100 psi sounds like blast cabinets are rated like lawn mower engine horsepower ratings !!!!! any ideas if I have enough compressor ?? thanks John _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/kvacek@ameritech.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 09:41:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3742D06A3 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:41:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E872D0518 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:36:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iajr24 with SMTP id r24so21770798iaj.14 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:36:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=rFZyHF2uQYy7XIlFFtf7FFzgwCqBDUeLl6Vs1t1fy98=; b=cQ9WzOwDTFNa/xUHVxUg0rMeQYXcokn56Q5ihMjEPbb1JC7SRuBrb8ufI64RPpkNau rn84GgTw2gzm11iMjFmo5W/lJqDKggH0C42JgPLS5njHcDJa1BaPdKZR7yh9UL7e9dJ1 5XvIv/4okTyj3w613l5Jhem2MNhbd0gsmzUfoxuXXCSIFpZo3oP3vjgzRmSVaKLQqgV1 /VzqteTMk5r9mfGaMmvsVZ5pKKMq7szyxKWfRwVpi/mf4TobplhhXu4+igutCa5/mEyV APMne8gUNYq0la6uN6U0Y94c666ajt+Bwf8t3AGT4vZyEn+jFqU3kZWN68IJqTCJzvTA gQuw== Received: by 10.50.46.167 with SMTP id w7mr4039830igm.73.1335108990026; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.11] ([24.180.147.233]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hq3sm17369473igc.0.2012.04.22.08.36.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:36:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Parkanzky X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B176) Message-Id: <2FD52D41-38F4-480F-86DD-93AD942C1CB2@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:36:30 -0400 To: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [Shop-talk] Tim Mullen X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net All, This message was relayed on a British car forum where Tim and I have both been active: Hello everyone, This is Tim Mullen's wife. Tim had a massive episode of what we don't really know, but put him in ICU for a few days with 100% ventilator. Either a major stroke or ????? Anyway, we need to get his brain firing on all cylinders. I know he loves his cars and you guys. If you post some comments (especially things that you might need help with your cars) I want to read them to him and get his mind jump started. As I know more I'll let you know. He considers you all his best virtual friends. And some we have met at various car shows Jo Mullen Tim has made a big contribution here over the years, so let's all hope for a quick, full recovery. Jo, if you see this please allow us to help in any way we can. 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[71.228.57.239]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hq3sm17621400igc.0.2012.04.22.09.15.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:15:32 -0700 (PDT) References: <1950378708.1178187.1334939823041.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1950378708.1178187.1334939823041.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <5C07266F-21EC-42D0-BD7F-18BEFCAB4963@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B179) From: David Scheidt Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:15:31 -0500 To: Bob Spidell Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Apr 20, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > > From what I know of fluid dynamics--not much--I've always wondered what a large tank offers. Yes, the tank will put out more air before it reaches min pressure and the compressor fires, but then the compressor has to run longer to replace the volume of air lost. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 12:34:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6AB2D0534 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 12:34:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DB62D0525 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 12:33:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 15eN1j0011afHeLA26aJRQ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:34:18 +0000 Received: from sz0054.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.26.106]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 16aJ1j0022HMFy48d6aJBE; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:34:18 +0000 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:34:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Bob Spidell To: David Scheidt Message-ID: <647260280.1242399.1335119658031.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <5C07266F-21EC-42D0-BD7F-18BEFCAB4963@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [69.110.106.93] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Also good to run an extended line--25 ft or more--from the compressor to the water trap. That way the air cools and water condenses before it hits the trap. Bob -------------------------------- Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Scheidt" To: "Bob Spidell" Cc: "John Niolon" , "shop-talk" Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 9:15:31 AM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question On Apr 20, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > > From what I know of fluid dynamics--not much--I've always wondered what a large tank offers. Yes, the tank will put out more air before it reaches min pressure and the compressor fires, but then the compressor has to run longer to replace the volume of air lost. One thing a big tank can give you is cooler drier air. Air straight out of the compressor is hot and wet. As it cools, the water condenses. A tank big enough to ensure the air being drawn off is room temp means the driers have to work less hard. I've worked with some industrial set ups that had oodles of compressor capacity to meet their peak load, but used large tanks to buffer the temperature and moisture. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 17:41:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856A42D06A3 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:41:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm18-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C5EB2D03F0 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:41:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.197] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 23:41:52 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.56] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 23:41:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 23:41:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1335138112; bh=FaMeoxW1Fq/oMXlWimToFS+Iq+VBnShEFIslxEUo3d8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=uxTr7qhkf/7Iz3cxQrkYZCBE2MQcX55SiD9BvDCKHFvHqf1LpntlHWYEfA7lnZZfarVSH/xonB1a62iE0GAY7BrqkfJS60sMiWJSkDFrrJsNEtJltuFqaY0GDmPTxYF8OsL8WL4y+hZVEfpPm5CaWRlCvMzHxKA2GkDPKCise8s= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 626869.19207.bm@smtp109.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: .oBzavMVM1mN_ljqrPNqZURf6Olo8XyQk9pM0qnkJ.o8xFB FMkaLEJkGe4kdcOTLEcVfG.AHHNjGNQ6uB5u.6415g2TFX41vjmnpEYetJUM 39WHQMehJnQguY.SmjYcV28Q4OHG7gCPOQDLbT23JDrtpqB7CBD6bZFRi5iN WWiBE_35oJKSkjrEmpkeqcfq8VPtL0iaGE3ZO8tQXoErV_0AY1IicstGcmw3 tIMnr2SCkqE5rPH6hQUg8QZHAsnLRdls3eRy3tHfRfJQm3ALZp8K8Ia_0Eoz H0PAS8IjQLnn1zWspeqMJWGvbesvcVANDeZ96wcQChi6UzaTp9C2z7ScgfoB HGxds81.mlHdcvgUJtLO84TiQlHXI7pSueFgHztPLRQMObzpfRUofNStRA6e pAlarywgokFQwzXVqEtg.2DoI1zybE.UVHTX8Mnn2gNMr2Tn6 X-Yahoo-SMTP: N1vUKuCswBBFA6w98oBmnWwA.ZnMue1mJ2F6zw-- Received: from john5043a2d406 (jniolon@108.227.225.109 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2012 16:41:52 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <44A838DEF21F43AC85A01CA73E64EDB0@john5043a2d406> From: "John Niolon" To: "shop-talk" References: <647260280.1242399.1335119658031.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:44:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net thanks guys for all the info... I guess my quest begins to find/build a blast cabinet... the shop is plumbed per tip tools diagram using 1/2" galvanized pipe (yes, I know black is better but galvanized was free.) The main run is about 25' long with 4 drops that come off the top of the pipe... down to a fitting in a tee and a ball valve/drain at the end of each drop... water filter at head end about 5' from compressor and another at the end. Compressor makes about a cup of water a week with occasional use with air tools and a da sander... I've never gotten the first drop of water out of the system when opening the drains... but I did blow a lizzard across the yard once. can anyone recommend tip sizes ... if I build, I'll just buy the kit from TIP I guess... but all info and recommendations are appreciated.. thanks John _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 17:53:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A76C2D06A3 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:53:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm23-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.141]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 418B72D04D1 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:47:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 23:47:50 -0000 Received: from [98.139.244.49] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 23:47:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 23:47:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1335138470; bh=rVR9c+N9A1w9xkU92mMQQ9XqbEJc7cFaOYGiNR+e3Lk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=FQeeSIQGcrGOHZlvxo3LKZOxubOywlOSxneN95l1yIbUT3+ZEFtzq56yZ7sU2dLA7Yuk6ytHcSggkUYmqBrYTkMQ5jtp88RDvNba2GkP3jmTK4EgNiHHZabamZ8h+C5OlSiQR49G34TpKMgBtR9p7hR42wVWyT82qVzjrjuHz5k= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 306158.48162.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: slAVYzgVM1lG4nbgKIQLC7rWgri1Xh.B2NL_h2Z1s1vhsSW 4cy0rSdlHefWU.Uo.00jgCixkPz7hzW80J7vqJlmWSv9KIPNJEuv8CYYJKY8 s.AUVGx9M6YwIdHjew7OhI_sqMjd.b1ngKDme1BYeOihSY4PUSeRXJpLisd8 ZrjWV.xQNcxnE8jkVf1vCGkN5cj4Dx4Oc1G11B2SmRJKw2LQDfLR4Y8vqsUP 0sLwFaxVEAgr4V54Z3hZFascAn3JzzGsW2cVi.m7HZWWLDHzurNQ_iP8GA7r twlJn0L.eVfXm8jw7As7O4DdU39DBOk.TIQZhiByAnsvZUe1oioJwXD3ASMC M58tPJmMoQskfJ3zibZTL.OJ1N68noQUfQ0vUefhdHZbAmVRhH5_gmLg5U9j NxzD6tBUtdbO..ZrPWi3e4cD2dVyp X-Yahoo-SMTP: N1vUKuCswBBFA6w98oBmnWwA.ZnMue1mJ2F6zw-- Received: from john5043a2d406 (jniolon@108.227.225.109 with login) by smtp111.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2012 16:47:50 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <88368E013D5746758E99C9A67F5A743A@john5043a2d406> From: "John Niolon" To: "shop-talk" Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:50:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [Shop-talk] gantry crane - a frame X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I've got a gantry crane/ a-frame that's is taking up real estate and needs to find a new home. Haven't used it in a long time and thinking about Craigslisting it... 8' high with a 11.5' span and mobile on 9" swivel cast iron wheels... It's home built using a 6" H-beam, 2.5" pipe legs with bracing to hold it all together. Haven't got a clue on rating, but it's seen a 2000-2500 lbs with no strain. My problem is what is it worth... I see the commercial units for a grand or better. H.F. has one with two vertical legs and rated at 1 ton for about 650. I can send pics if anyone is interested in seeing it..... Any ideas what it might be worth ??? what to ask for it on C.L. ??? tia JOhn I'm sarcastic... what's your superpower ? _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 18:28:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E13B2D05ED for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:28:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nm15.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm15.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.216]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 516F42D04EC for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:28:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.195] by nm15.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 00:29:14 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.54] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 00:29:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 00:29:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1335140954; bh=jfouH8r3mIcg8uW9LKBEjsTKEzmpb1NBbsfwIjiu6ME=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ZEMB8W8Orgh/+lyUdBUDppPIfhKYhTNPWBTMGM9p4vxvZviHyI3hzpFI8smIwI9B5firbkVXRb+ZTyJrccydChvhCipLHUphEBvx0yPaMwRMxpv5d4s2Jx6ylcAVyBU0ta3KWlZ6gNrbfE6V62RFRr7nhayWC0Nxnhu9mIqFffs= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 506609.56191.bm@smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: DgI3pHUVM1lmWBWxTh3eg6Y.k4GHuVEOY_ZQEAI.7Zmh6lq VyWIP.qX90X8Ni14NxZqdRXVmLhokgETPtdsWrb4ENBOZLYgepjcWrpyG3NN hXBrnlWiUhAs3HnUHBcsNOayNoAPuZ5oSOHmKfmKRgm0dKRkNu3yPqJQFw1f Jt2HZoCr5uVEJKEY40ahaBZTa1lIvJ73RxZGFFarCZgy.XVWcYTVxLT5Y8S0 N3p9yIgetUrcB42YDMenFETmttG_eIUx8dCsbu_0G1E1DGlKGUZrmijY44R3 LvI.v0yBnyXegKXiIpQdama9AQ0MOCSJgJlr0CoLj6cY762oOE1XIFldZS7S 90ONs9GdTyaPNpImysTldS9ns2F7GMvlhk0S8qEtGos9aBptToE2D6Sq6jBN UCBo9vF9kCW9.Jz7XkXCPPbX5M58MkEPOiRkiset1CaahYw5admBs6CQi7T_ XxkHrHKKFBKDGgVI86cy.N3qbr1v_5N9gZ7XFFJerrVOmgY9yzSZOAQIKT9Q 0oXEvWCMPCjFNFOV6gkt7 X-Yahoo-SMTP: N1vUKuCswBBFA6w98oBmnWwA.ZnMue1mJ2F6zw-- Received: from john5043a2d406 (jniolon@108.227.225.109 with login) by smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2012 17:29:14 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <685958D4B1D74F099F2AA182AAAF3ED3@john5043a2d406> From: "John Niolon" To: "Skip Albright" , "shop-talk" References: <88368E013D5746758E99C9A67F5A743A@john5043a2d406> <6.2.3.4.2.20120422200454.03b5bd08@pop.nycap.rr.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:31:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] gantry crane - a frame X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net no take-apart... it's all welded together... need a trailer to move it... it won't fit in a pickup... I'm in Hueytown Al. about 12 miles SW of Birmingham... I'll send you some pics... wish we could post here ! john ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Albright" To: "John Niolon" Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] gantry crane - a frame > > > > yeah good new ones are thousand-ish and the HF ones go on sale for > $400-600 > > yours is prolly better, but people are funny about "homemade" things. > > does it come a part to transport? > > Where are you? > > love to see pics. > > thanks > > Skip > > > > At 07:50 PM 4/22/2012, you wrote: >>I've got a gantry crane/ a-frame that's is taking up real estate and >>needs to >>find a new home. Haven't used it in a long time and thinking about >>Craigslisting it... 8' high with a 11.5' span and mobile on 9" swivel >>cast >>iron wheels... It's home built using a 6" H-beam, 2.5" pipe legs with >>bracing to hold it all together. Haven't got a clue on rating, but it's >>seen >>a 2000-2500 lbs with no strain. >> >>My problem is what is it worth... I see the commercial units for a grand >>or >>better. H.F. has one with two vertical legs and rated at 1 ton for about >>650. >> >>I can send pics if anyone is interested in seeing it..... Any ideas what >>it >>might be worth ??? what to ask for it on C.L. ??? >> >>tia >>JOhn >> >> >> >> >> >>I'm sarcastic... what's your superpower ? >>_______________________________________________ >> >>Shop-talk@autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $12.96 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/salbrigh@nycap.rr.com > > Nothing is as it appears > Skip Albright > Glenmont NY > salbrigh@nycap.rr.com > http://www.volvoskip.com/ _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 19:44:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735C52D0636 for ; 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Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.145.98 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:37:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44A838DEF21F43AC85A01CA73E64EDB0@john5043a2d406> References: <647260280.1242399.1335119658031.JavaMail.root@sz0054a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <44A838DEF21F43AC85A01CA73E64EDB0@john5043a2d406> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 21:37:24 -0400 Message-ID: From: Doug Braun To: John Niolon X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQknyU+uA+Nq3zdO9qPXAwBcthB8Nx16VYMqW1apr9DIXmdSeBGbPSSJ7jBCAf/sJDPTbrme X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] compressor/sandblast guru question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Here are some photos of the cabinet I built from their kit: http://www.dougbraun.com/model_a_gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1244 Doug On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:44 PM, John Niolon wrote: > > can anyone recommend tip sizes ... if I build, I'll just buy the kit from > TIP > I guess... but all info and recommendations are appreciated.. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 23 16:26:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1A42D06F7 for ; 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Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.28.194 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:26:26 -0700 Message-ID: From: Shannah Miller To: ShopTalk Subject: [Shop-talk] Pressure Washer X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I would like to do something nice for my uncle, who is getting on in years, and has a TON of pressure washing to do around his house. I'm not looking for the cheap solution: does anyone have any suggestion for a really GOOD power washer? If it has the ability to use solutions, in addition to just water, that would be great. If I can shop online and have it shipped, more the better. What pressure washer would you get if it was going to be yours or a gift to a loved one? Thanks for any suggestions, Shannah _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 23 17:10:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6672D0716 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:10:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1662C2D06FA for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:09:20 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=eq5dP/VX c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=xV4axwellI0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=sXHkx_T-rHwTGJIzdNkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:2108] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 5C/35-05935-B31E59F4; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:09:47 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'ShopTalk'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:09:45 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01cd21a6$2cf9f980$86edec80$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0hoC72BlMBJP5ERcSe7ZjeigC+tQABZlVg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Pressure Washer X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > If it > has the ability to use solutions, in addition to just water, > that would be great. I don't have a suggestion, just something to watch for. The pressure washer I got had the "solution" input and even came with a gallon of soap. What I didn't realize before buying is that it will not pick up the solution when in "high pressure" mode. It will only suck the soap when the outlet is opened up. -- Randall _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 23 17:41:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9132D0715 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:41:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DC12E2D0377 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:36:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 23:37:23 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.11] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 23:37:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 23:37:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 457661.16649.bm@omp1011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 98025 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2012 23:37:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:Message-ID:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Reply-To:X-Priority:References:In-Reply-To:Sensitivity:Importance:Subject:To:From:Date:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=fvqLOsg9nC0BZ4fyvbs4L8uvsY4QuKNk1rib3HSulE/5mzPPbGfsb3lCTrHNUsNlvdUQhd95QDY8SBcbekPkr8aRPPGUYl+7Z/iycDTES/aSt65OQ9wpdgrFoaes2zM3oXOGFi2srxCrWab6rBAf45q3ebrGek+QvuRYLCDFLfk= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1335224243; bh=R3lBNM6lPOeKpM3+iWDzR+Hm09xCNKO2Env1ht40RwA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:Message-ID:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Reply-To:X-Priority:References:In-Reply-To:Sensitivity:Importance:Subject:To:From:Date:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=cAeZa6oTYdZvinQ0UmjcMWPYaZRQ5Pw5px5cj/vTL37OewFdzgIfDXLQ9WZTAjHeWwwKr2oRdXukp6XRPuS7zoMqgtDzMMkYgC9PS3hhN1u0xEp6985JB9b+y6GsOYBrdBILYMwyMB/EzMNi3ntzu2H6qRbnNQKC9Lho+wIPAO8= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: KE4nx4cVM1kEn4irKNETEg_RzM7K9CANJjRZG0m0NeOJBvS b9P53wLUO_yY_rQOwwj.JyUpG1Kwg2_M6ueEQfecw_kzlYXAm4OYUkJteSdJ h_4Sr7EVGS4uyPoogZ_Xz3.K.i23aYiI3vMMJ7Gbeb4zQmYXIII2g9nFrN1r MpiTASlv650pCrzN5T5JwIIqGD68MUOY0jPEikgHRtDULkQAs09rgWFRtU6b _b.clC9GjP5tHFX8tw1aWzhDyRkW0UayCzKCVNe_v8368FrymwJ5SPzFMppW 7bQ0G.li83bZiB_gvWeDMvAZrRnQX.xUQG2I2BJeGKUiGwI9x770ktWDJe4F qOCaJYicOqCusKj5oGtB4__jLfrR61ZDbLmR00EB_sZ.Ye1MdVw3ukkX7bII YEcO.8p8SXujYE1jR3YOaS4QHC5BeFHnmte69F43REDUUYMc6dB7ARmEnF8Z 53QS2F6V.QQiMefkSPc7oOZE- X-Yahoo-SMTP: mV3ZURWswBANMQrowZ8a87Dzb060 Received: from b11.c6.bise6.blackberry (battmain@74.82.81.61 with xymcookie) by smtp114-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2012 16:37:23 -0700 PDT References: In-Reply-To: Sensitivity: Normal To: "shoptalk" From: "battmain" Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:37:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Pressure Washer X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: battmain@yahoo.com List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120423234139.EA9132D0715@autox.team.net> Suggest at least 2500psi or better. Anything less has just annoyed me when I used it. Even with that amount of power, the rotating turbo nozzle is needed for the moldy sidewalks by me otherwise the job takes twice as long. Pricewise, you can get the units for 399 and up. B Sent from my BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Shannah Miller Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:26:26 To: ShopTalk Subject: [Shop-talk] Pressure Washer Hi, I would like to do something nice for my uncle, who is getting on in years, and has a TON of pressure washing to do around his house. I'm not looking for the cheap solution: does anyone have any suggestion for a really GOOD power washer? If it has the ability to use solutions, in addition to just water, that would be great. If I can shop online and have it shipped, more the better. What pressure washer would you get if it was going to be yours or a gift to a loved one? Thanks for any suggestions, Shannah _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/battmain@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 23 22:31:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27B72D074A for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:31:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EC32D06FA for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:25:37 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=WnjLfZNwUc0TF3K7NB4BehPSp+MEV1Q84tBKC70Eb2HWXYYjqUoXUAsHu30S0RBc; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [76.194.244.202] (helo=[192.168.1.68]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1SMXK5-0006Af-JU; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 00:25:54 -0400 Message-ID: <4F962B2B.6040004@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:25:15 -0700 From: Brian Kemp User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall References: <000f01cd21a6$2cf9f980$86edec80$@rr.com> In-Reply-To: <000f01cd21a6$2cf9f980$86edec80$@rr.com> X-ELNK-Trace: f30ccafafe09714d4d2b10475b5711201f07479fc381ea6aeed86b54934d4245a9bf3541e19daa2c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.194.244.202 Cc: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Pressure Washer X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Randall - That is how mine is too. I thought that is how they all worked. You spray on the desired solution at low pressure and let is soak in then switch to high to actually clean and rinse. It lets you wash then rinse a section at a time without having to make changes to the pressure washer. I can see this feature being really handy if you are doing a house while on a ladder. Brian On 4/23/2012 4:09 PM, Randall wrote: >> If it >> has the ability to use solutions, in addition to just water, >> that would be great. > I don't have a suggestion, just something to watch for. The pressure washer > I got had the "solution" input and even came with a gallon of soap. What I > didn't realize before buying is that it will not pick up the solution when > in "high pressure" mode. It will only suck the soap when the outlet is > opened up. > > -- Randall > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bk13@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 10:30:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A202D05FC for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:30:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8582D0425 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:25:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iajr24 with SMTP id r24so1706825iaj.14 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:25:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z/p+Jem1d+P+ZOnz+h4Hw9eotQkGq9vvZ/GGFrpbns4=; b=h51RIgEzxF+ltx5ITup+URQNetgLKyBGd0nPkmM4tyWIQIJ/iSAT1z/VGxSqTJ98sy arQ3NyLFCOsMez12j2L/5ERpMJcNixBaHWBtJcC8L7ZWAO+DQIzGyRhW/lHHj+v/sXfd xtLCrDDaVmzh4Z+ciBJJ+T4QOlG/ICeRy5uYp7ahlvGot6bjyvVOnDDDM1khW1/gP0y4 EdfQddXpHMov7AC+bdJPfgtOL/dswh9Vm1OxXSkkG+0E0ftEadcUTp8g76GV9nJFF2yl yvVZxNXhwJ4LdmfG2OoYBxnflgUsXBES21yhzmw5vhJ6lY4sf2O0N2f5nM+7mpZR3VIy dG8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.217.137 with SMTP id oy9mr11074633igc.31.1335284744416; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.28.194 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:25:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F962B2B.6040004@earthlink.net> References: <000f01cd21a6$2cf9f980$86edec80$@rr.com> <4F962B2B.6040004@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:25:44 -0700 Message-ID: From: Shannah Miller To: Brian Kemp Cc: Randall , shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Pressure Washer X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I found this one, that seems to fit the bill, in terms of having enough pressure, and the ability to use detergent in addition to the clean water spray. Simpson Megashot MSH3125-S 3,100 PSI Honda GC190 Premium Gas Powered Heavy Duty Pressure Washer Anyone have any better suggestions? If not, this is the one I'm going to get for my uncle. Thank you so much for your input! Shannah On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Brian Kemp wrote: > Randall - That is how mine is too. I thought that is how they all worked. > You spray on the desired solution at low pressure and let is soak in then > switch to high to actually clean and rinse. It lets you wash then rinse a > section at a time without having to make changes to the pressure washer. I > can see this feature being really handy if you are doing a house while on a > ladder. > > Brian > > > On 4/23/2012 4:09 PM, Randall wrote: >>> >>> If it >>> has the ability to use solutions, in addition to just water, >>> that would be great. >> >> I don't have a suggestion, just something to watch for. The pressure >> washer >> I got had the "solution" input and even came with a gallon of soap. What >> I >> didn't realize before buying is that it will not pick up the solution when >> in "high pressure" mode. It will only suck the soap when the outlet is >> opened up. >> >> -- Randall >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Shop-talk@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bk13@earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/shannahquilts@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 12:12:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E702D04F2 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:12:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from dogbert2.mail.megageek.com (nj-65-40-236-36.sta.embarqhsd.net [65.40.236.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2311D2D0390 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:07:46 -0600 (MDT) To: paul@parkanzky.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0.2 September 26, 2006 From: eric@megageek.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:05:03 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DOGBERT2/Megageek(Release 7.0.1|January 17, 2006) at 04/24/2012 14:04:22, Serialize complete at 04/24/2012 14:04:22 Cc: Tim.Mullen@ngc.com, shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net Subject: [Shop-talk] Fw: Tim Mullen X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Paul, Can you see that Tim gets this? (Or at least email me an address to get it to Tim's wife?) I'm also cc'ing the email address that I have for Tim and the shop talk list to make sure I get it to him. Tim, This is Eric (or "Inch") from Stop Talk list. I just wanted to reach out and let you know that there are lots of us here thinking about you. I just thought back over the years about things you personally helped me. Some quick ones that come to mind are... -Advice on the difference between industrial and automotive air couplers -Where to find quality jumper cable connectors -How to do home front end alinements, and the tools needed -And the merits of static balancing vs. high speed balancing of tires. But mostly, I remember you taking the time to give me a detail list of what I needed to do to store my truck for it's year long storage when I got deployed to Iraq. Advice that I had to use a second time to go to Afghanistan afterwards. You ended the email with "Good luck over there, and keep you head down." (I still have the email) Well, I kept my head down and may it home twice. But now it's time for you to "get your head up" and get back online. Us shade tree mechanics out here need your expertise! So, get out of bed trooper and get back in that shop!!! That's an order!! (Don't forget, I'm a Captain in the US Army, so that really *IS* and order!) God Bless, and a speedy recovery from me (and all of the lugs on the Shop talk list, I'm sure.) You are in our prayers. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson PS- yesterday I DIDN'T keep my head down and I broke my nose putting some wood on a shelf. Time to build yet another garage for MORE STUFF!!!! 8>) ----- Forwarded by Eric Petrevich/Megageek on 04/24/2012 13:58 ----- Paul Parkanzky Sent by: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net 04/22/2012 11:38 To "shop-talk@autox.team.net" cc Subject [Shop-talk] Tim Mullen All, This message was relayed on a British car forum where Tim and I have both been active: Hello everyone, This is Tim Mullen's wife. Tim had a massive episode of what we don't really know, but put him in ICU for a few days with 100% ventilator. Either a major stroke or ????? Anyway, we need to get his brain firing on all cylinders. I know he loves his cars and you guys. If you post some comments (especially things that you might need help with your cars) I want to read them to him and get his mind jump started. As I know more I'll let you know. He considers you all his best virtual friends. And some we have met at various car shows Jo Mullen Tim has made a big contribution here over the years, so let's all hope for a quick, full recovery. Jo, if you see this please allow us to help in any way we can. Thanks, Paul Parkanzky paul@parkanzky.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/eric@megageek.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 15:36:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6832D05C0 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:36:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFCF2D045F for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:34:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo306.cox.net ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120424213438.CASG26743.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo306.cox.net>; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:34:38 -0400 Received: from John-PC.cox.net ([24.254.211.88]) by eastrmimpo306.cox.net with bizsmtp id 1xad1j0081uzUvs02xadkC; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:34:37 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.4F971C6E.0003,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oNsJgJ5cAGpTaXJztO+k5aVuruDCBvmbzOAslSMJ7bY= c=1 sm=1 a=vZpZw5ttvdEA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uMyTlBfukKJCgtmHy1UhRw==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=q6SfDYXhAAAA:8 a=YYTUJqQPIPBbb-pc5FoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=aav4MXMyVXkA:10 a=4zxjrV59PHAA:10 a=bz_d9vehOyUA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=ur5ECUHPHkH6DOkW:21 a=10RkDRyBGkc9-u-j:21 a=uMyTlBfukKJCgtmHy1UhRw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.1.20120424172517.04daf3a0@cox.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:30:42 -0400 To: Tim.Mullen@ngc.com,shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net From: "John T. Blair" In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: paul@parkanzky.com Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fw: Tim Mullen X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tim, Like Eric (Inch), I too (John T. Blair) have saved many of your emails over the years. We miss your sage advice. We don't really know what is wrong but we are keeping you in our prayers. A stay in the hospital ain't no fun for anyone. So get better quickly and get the h$%@ out of there. Then you can get back to you shop and computer and giving us all moral support as we fumble through our odd jobs in the shop. John John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III 65 Rambler Classic Morgan: www.team.net/www/morgan Bricklin: www.bricklin.org If you can read this - Thank a teacher! If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!! From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy: e pluribus Unum, "from many, one." In God We Trust Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for oneself; freedom from control or restriction _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 15:53:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DF22D075C for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:53:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162472D04FF for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:53:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by dady13 with SMTP id y13so1797538dad.41 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:53:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=onSUS2UIOeNP5s+mOqzZfSJtwPZ9f/FxkUCEoo2jLdw=; b=hlICCXwuGavZ+AtCpZYEsVh4PPn2p8Qr7YE1hzFUZiIaGa3hJX+EyCnBD3TYH0tkSs c/Ah0JxlPDPdpOUuQdAdUgemQamSSpnDFgjw2RNMXUSjHvtnFMYLZn7ixpBmrO6KXGV0 yp7myu1NoiKOHXalxuGCx6YVrnitwD+15O3ZyaUUVq6HCY0nZUv9AeTD8gMAfjI0BQQu /krNRCc77PIxEuhvr30W2jXhp9MpThWIE8iYCSUZUGxf+dzZM93nQGQ8WGpGPXkctvkw XqMHYmf5ZYzUMszW90XM66wSrz6pP0BNUGn54/ROYvJX7AbbOTUj+HmViO6OMkfgFH8s VQcA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.132.232 with SMTP id ox8mr1255196pbb.145.1335304411310; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.103.17 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:53:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:53:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: Paul Parkanzky Cc: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fw: Tim Mullen X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Eric, I'm afraid that I don't have any more a direct line to Tim than you do. I can, however, pass along some great news from the forums: ---From the Forums (Not My Writing)--- My wife Debbie & I went by the hospital after work, and saw Tim. He was quite alert, considering the pain meds he is on. He is bruised up, has a torn muscle in his leg, and a damaged lumbar vertebra. He can't walk on his own yet, but will be fitted for a brace soon, which should help. They do not know yet what caused the episode that landed him in the ER, but tests show it wasn't a seizure, nor a stroke, nor a heart attack. We dropped off a Get Well Soon card, from his Lotus friends from around the world. We also gave him a Lotus 25 model kit. I told him we were going to need the model assembled, painted, and decal'd by, say, early next week. He said he'd look into it. We talked cars, and car people, and he was quite lucid throughout. He is a bit embarrassed by the fuss online, as his wife Jo has described it to him, but he is genuinely appreciative of the thoughts. He does not have access to a computer at this time. /SNIP/ -------------------------------------- I removed some forum specific stuff at the end, but the upshot is that Tim seems to be on the mend and with his faculties in tact. It's wonderful news and I think it's just a matter of time before we see Tim on here again. -Paul On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:05 PM, wrote: > Paul, > Can you see that Tim gets this? (Or at least email me an address to get it > to Tim's wife?) I'm also cc'ing the email address that I have for Tim and > the shop talk list to make sure I get it to him. > > Tim, > > This is Eric (or "Inch") from Stop Talk list. I just wanted to reach out > and let you know that there are lots of us here thinking about you. I > just thought back over the years about things you personally helped me. > Some quick ones that come to mind are... > -Advice on the difference between industrial and automotive air couplers > -Where to find quality jumper cable connectors > -How to do home front end alinements, and the tools needed > -And the merits of static balancing vs. high speed balancing of tires. > > But mostly, I remember you taking the time to give me a detail list of > what I needed to do to store my truck for it's year long storage when I > got deployed to Iraq. Advice that I had to use a second time to go to > Afghanistan afterwards. > > You ended the email with "Good luck over there, and keep you head down." > (I still have the email) > > Well, I kept my head down and may it home twice. But now it's time for > you to "get your head up" and get back online. Us shade tree mechanics > out here need your expertise! > > So, get out of bed trooper and get back in that shop!!! That's an order!! > (Don't forget, I'm a Captain in the US Army, so that really *IS* and > order!) > > God Bless, and a speedy recovery from me (and all of the lugs on the Shop > talk list, I'm sure.) You are in our prayers. > > Eric P > "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational > being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph > Waldo Emerson > > PS- yesterday I DIDN'T keep my head down and I broke my nose putting some > wood on a shelf. Time to build yet another garage for MORE STUFF!!!! 8>) _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 17:32:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B7C2D039E for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:32:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 649E12D0777 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:28:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 22641 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2012 23:29:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.113.13.208) by p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.86) with ESMTP; 25 Apr 2012 23:29:08 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA" To: "Shop Talk" Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:29:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Is there any logic behind there being few (if any) <5 gal yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. Any suggestions? Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 18:08:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0782D0795 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:08:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 921C02D077B for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:08:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2012 00:08:36 -0000 Received: from [68.142.194.243] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2012 00:08:36 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.107] by t1.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2012 00:08:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2012 00:08:35 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 997281.83512.bm@omp1012.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 12856 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2012 00:08:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1335398915; bh=YaQvtEON/9w3Dwj2aAGwBMo42hW/4858b4WPGFSxFv4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=2xIAWuH3AXAGZcqtESlKalkD6kv6CVAOMd94WQJAOUn5zO4wTvnWs6e6YMcJSVpT+0qCGXIHRDeip6aCyD0ybDz2fCjXMcgCGoZK5lU+tMFDdfIHQbzXXrlsNobyU9JthmjIEYxVF59Q7UDBy3zMIMrtDlkFXYrq/wcouFYvNjI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: ZeWK_dIVM1l5z6uo_QMHjAuosALja1e4p.qrT.Pmad1rHxv Iwc10Ptx3v1miIUmq7CZh0a3IXyhH5OYBm6K5A2Akdetm0EtnJUd_YDyuOMF vyiaVzMosQYs0NrALksFWz8TJxooFqZuvFr3qfTRJnNZhmD4OR_gIJBHn5ej _PAroWZzBwaAfihaOvTtUilgdiyhmIYPoXg5RcZC_.UmdJibBoiN8v2CLgEs 49jjLRBzXeEOIIRWvi89SquVHph7jIZ_2IByfA6mT6tGBenZ4V9VNSTneV1. vMitzzq5EEVFsjxyWp.UI7fwEna..1jIzXzo7JFuWYjscR841Cy5S9HyitlC zoQs8iC1Fv47wRBkdtzJ2Nudf8F4C1gwmzp9St9FVeNbElZerveNLJ8q7VvT Xa9NdqUoS8OwCKl4Q9Ni99bzNKhyQc6DxZnMXZfMI_ESRJ9U1PrnTmJ5Y4LU - X-Yahoo-SMTP: 3dtw6zqswBAYSj6AeGVzA8W9QZCvdznm4FQr Received: from EntCentPC (jibjib@168.103.147.16 with login) by smtp108.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2012 17:08:35 -0700 PDT From: "Jack Brooks" To: "'Shop Talk'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:08:38 -0700 Message-ID: <19F92D8156B3419D9D8503218E8A708F@EntCentPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac0jO73rnKVHPXo3ScevBZ2skOIKRAABBl+w Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net C'mon Steve, man up. You are from Washington State. Grrrrr! We have a reputation to uphold. I know what you mean. I fill 4, 5 gallon gasoline containers every fall for the winter generator season. They are heavy. How about just filling them up half way? If they seal tightly, there will not be a condensation issue. Jack Covington, Washington State -----Original Message----- From: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:29 PM To: Shop Talk Subject: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can Is there any logic behind there being few (if any) <5 gal yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. Any suggestions? Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jibjib@att.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 18:20:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894022D07A2 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:20:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5522D077E for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:15:17 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ibNCwd2q6iDvPLrjb+tDBh1rPtCiHuwzZTAj1k02liPOCUlwHmT2UU2TLMlfvUl+; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [76.194.244.202] (helo=[192.168.1.68]) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1SNCMs-0004ld-D8; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:15:30 -0400 Message-ID: <4F98937B.3050406@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:14:51 -0700 From: Brian Kemp User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA References: In-Reply-To: X-ELNK-Trace: f30ccafafe09714d4d2b10475b571120ba676b00a5d8d31e40fa6212283d9a3402b550b3bec4bef8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.194.244.202 Cc: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Steve - I just did a quick search at Amazon and see what you mean. They have the red poly in smaller sizes, but not yellow. You could always try to spray a red one with yellow plastic paint or wrap it in yellow duct tape. Should you go metal, Justrite 7110200 and 7120200 are 1 and 2 gallon options. Brian On 4/25/2012 4:29 PM, Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA wrote: > Is there any logic behind there being few (if any)<5 gal > yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting > nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and > I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. > Any suggestions? > > Steve Hammatt > Mount Vernon WA USA > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bk13@earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 18:20:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2E32D078C for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:20:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail.avvanta.com (smtp61.avvanta.com [206.124.128.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5062D0799 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:19:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail.avvanta.com (localhost.pops.p.blarg.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.avvanta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14A3276CB7 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amdquadcore.racertodd.com (50-46-114-197.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net [50.46.114.197]) by mail.avvanta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F5F276CB6 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20120425171515.00bd4508@mail.avvanta.com> X-Sender: racertod@mail.avvanta.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:19:01 -0700 To: shop-talk@autox.team.net From: Todd Walke In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BlargAV-Status: No viruses detected, BlargAV v1.1 on localhost.pops.p.blarg.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Steve wrote: >Is there any logic behind there being few (if any) <5 gal >yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting >nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and >I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. >Any suggestions? I couldn't find any using Google. Don't know why. Oliver Stone would, of course, claim it's a conspiracy... Diesel and "gas" cans are made from the same polyethylene plastic, only the color differs. I'd just buy a regular red gas can and spray paint it yellow to eliminate any confusion over what type of fuel it contains. Todd Seattle,WA '86 GTI, Red of course. (exciting racey car) 274,000 miles '01 Golf TDI, silver. (new work car) 338,000 miles '87 Golf, Polar Silver. (retired work car) 654,000 miles <- Gone to a new home :( http://www.pureluckdesign.com <-Ferrari & VW stuff _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 18:35:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E342D0788 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:35:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 17D3E2D06C9 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:31:34 -0600 (MDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=juno.com; s=alpha; t=1335400319; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=FW4Xm6yvsPlxnJjHObzPb5d9DGM92TK4Xc9jctUrwwVABYvFkUuWClH486or5nS2u h5W0m++5UkMEo7WvuJLct30BPQPsV98AuzH2tsdUfV9juxzZR1MmB/2aiW6t3f2JkP YPmPleFotyVY3JMGGyGWY0BAht0Nr4vqFbR1Gmkg= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail08.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.148]) by smtpout05.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABH3TF4UA3MGT4S for (sender ); Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:31:14 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: l0tzfbVg/zoqPq90CBJNEg/691Bb+4lZKs1xVIvjZUUdrYK9PfD4UQ== Received: (from mbarre@juno.com) by webmail08.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id R68PZFAN; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:31:09 PDT Received: from [24.214.163.54] by webmail08.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:31:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.214.163.54] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Matt" Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:31:08 GMT To: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailer: Webmail Version 6.1_P2 Message-Id: <20120425.203108.659.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> X-UNTD-BodySize: 1374 X-ContentStamp: 1:1:382925422 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.181.12.148|webmail08.vgs.untd.com|outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com|mbarre@juno.com X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net IIRC my grand dad had some 2.5 or 3 gallon jugs he used for diesel for the tractor specifically for weight.I think they were institutional vegatable oil jugs... Matt Steve wrote: >Is there any logic behind there being few (if any) <5 gal >yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting >nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and >I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. >Any suggestions? _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 18:36:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCD32D0796 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:36:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE15C2D03D2 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:32:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2Q2M1j0031smiN4A7QYp5n; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:32:49 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.17] ([24.19.60.79]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2QYo1j00N1iaLJY8gQYp6L; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:32:49 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) From: Bill Rabel In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:32:49 -0700 Message-Id: References: To: "Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) Cc: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I've found the same non-existent jugs. I'd like to keep a one- or two-gallon jug for when I change fuel filters on my boat. I searched the Web high and low. - Bill Rabel Anacortes On Apr 25, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA wrote: > Is there any logic behind there being few (if any) <5 gal > yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting > nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and > I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. > Any suggestions? > > Steve Hammatt > Mount Vernon WA USA _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 18:36:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF232D07A7 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:36:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.33]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F0422D077A for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:33:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 31246 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2012 00:34:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (12.162.141.2) by smtpauth11.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.33) with ESMTP; 26 Apr 2012 00:34:09 -0000 Message-ID: <4F9897FC.60205@hornesystemstx.com> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:34:04 -0500 From: Pat Horne Organization: Horne Systems User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: <4F98937B.3050406@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <4F98937B.3050406@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: pat@hornesystemstx.com List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I haven't seen the original post yet, so I am replying to this reply. I seem to remember seeing small yellow plastic fuel containers at Walmart. Since I don't use diesel, I haven't looked that closely. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Brian Kemp, On 4/25/2012 7:14 PM: > Steve - I just did a quick search at Amazon and see what you mean. > They have the red poly in smaller sizes, but not yellow. You could > always try to spray a red one with yellow plastic paint or wrap it in > yellow duct tape. > > Should you go metal, Justrite 7110200 and 7120200 are 1 and 2 gallon > options. > > Brian > > On 4/25/2012 4:29 PM, Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA wrote: >> Is there any logic behind there being few (if any)<5 gal >> yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting >> nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and >> I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. >> Any suggestions? >> >> Steve Hammatt >> Mount Vernon WA USA >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Shop-talk@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/bk13@earthlink.net > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/pat@hornesystemstx.com > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat@HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 06:16:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B8B2D078D for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:16:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com (mail-yw0-f41.google.com [209.85.213.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76872D077B for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:16:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by yhr47 with SMTP id 47so1148558yhr.14 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 05:16:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=o7KKmpDqqe5DN17sn8ur3jwa3B2QqR96UgZc9im5R4c=; b=hvR0/sm/kMHrFBinzSeBbMAzwM4yLWmvWlSFp3+Mkxmcuq56ZTC24Efh4sSt0MlyEE gwPRgDW+H9Isk1RI0B+k3A6aBTaP/p+62CPNcrh9eEyeh5ZIIVhSpKWtEFMxPZDUtyh2 rZk/VbaXdu596w4OVizCn+xRcEv8SKmbpaS/w3F1iTMrTQfVFytN//yoCAVvV/P/eLqc 2LSC/Fm88rzQzJGInE86PaIrOpuvy2mphs2R/2LPzERn+bm14qgipY2v1Hmi0TrMbYdA dxC22MkqxAR8ymHKMusa+fqaX2iX9keym6CzwsNb8D9p/tJwd7g6so+jOeGeo/mMlYxx mNnA== Received: by 10.50.217.137 with SMTP id oy9mr6541713igc.31.1335442603956; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 05:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (99-145-60-183.lightspeed.chcgil.sbcglobal.net. [99.145.60.183]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gb4sm12125046igc.1.2012.04.26.05.16.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 26 Apr 2012 05:16:41 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B179) From: David Scheidt Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:16:40 -0500 To: Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA Cc: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Apr 25, 2012, at 6:29 PM, "Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA" wrote: > Is there any logic behind there being few (if any) <5 gal > yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting > nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and > I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. > Any suggestions? Rotopax make one. Spendy. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 09:54:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123442D07B1 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:54:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gy0-f169.google.com (mail-gy0-f169.google.com [209.85.160.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DE92D0875 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ghrr18 with SMTP id r18so1376863ghr.14 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:58:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rb0tgqt3tBlzhgsI+NTeN4BMCbJvKNuf17fPY+K2rkQ=; b=SodOidnWj81vQ1XzpY2ArKMDpLYe8+4iSXSpTCgE6/XeHD6aSWHEk+E6WX1zs+B9jL hmmpPIetU64fInqUsqADbOItvFyr+oQa0Zb57vbxVEbhaLECwTXt9txjd5zdSor7tRVJ p2i+zwgGQ3xlHrSnzDx8pW5ewB60wsdJbM0u5rmmORoVdKYNq6VaFj/OqPOBNDdDbXjh 0kRPcFi2WIlWI7OPHKcHdH+gh6v1EuZnCSmxc3vcPJ8Fl2t6tUi9QFZ1cMaWOSS6apSg 46rJsDGlBPZiXsRCo6DPu6RI86BiV5X2WnEx8vfRF6UBz22CkXJwQJvrlvHrX4zcNljF +Pyw== Received: by 10.101.187.2 with SMTP id o2mr2017798anp.32.1335452310778; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.174.1] ([216.173.174.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r5sm2300748ani.19.2012.04.26.07.58.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F99628E.6020406@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:58:22 -0400 From: Scott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I have a really small (one or two gallon) one. Either came from Wal-Mart or Discount Auto. On 4/26/2012 8:16 AM, David Scheidt wrote: > On Apr 25, 2012, at 6:29 PM, "Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA" > wrote: > >> Is there any logic behind there being few (if any)<5 gal >> yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting >> nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and >> I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. >> Any suggestions? > Rotopax make one. Spendy. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 10:12:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966C12D035B for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:12:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABC92D0797 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:11:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120426161217.FDCT24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11> for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:12:17 -0400 Received: from wt07 ([209.225.8.57]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id 2gCH1j00U1Dq0wp05gCHVg; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:12:17 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=rvNqJbVGdbt4egs52VbhtoJZG7AoPDG9H2iogr/sNfs= c=1 sm=1 a=4JSqmJ31oaEA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=_y9jk15_30EA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=g9/lnmOh2JSgL3sSiPkglw==:17 a=kNU5vjPaAAAA:8 a=Dtl_EiCaAAAA:20 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=hRTeBlqwDfHVGttDeOQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=BcwT0Smst7MCtTIIGOhIgQ==:117 Received: from [165.189.65.23] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:12:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:12:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Message-ID: <28f2a9f8.dafb7.136ef6caa45.Webtop.47@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 47 X-Originating-IP: [165.189.65.23] Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="no" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net It is spendy but available. Found this with google search. I am sure there are other options. http://www.zorotools.com/g/00070082/k-G1764813?srccode=cii_23393768&cpncode=33-34222069-2&utm_source=channel_intelligence&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=AmazonProductAds or http://tinyurl.com/co6n7q4 tim On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA wrote: > Is there any logic behind there being few (if any) <5 gal > yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting > nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and > I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. > Any suggestions? > > Steve Hammatt > Mount Vernon WA USA > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/tputland@charter.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 10:28:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865482D0794 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:28:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4082D0659 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:23:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DesktopPC ([24.113.13.208]) by p3plsmtpa06-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 2gPd1j00B4VKuxU01gPd86; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:23:37 -0700 Message-ID: <3D28EFFF92A245808C3398A20F3D64A4@DesktopPC> From: "Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA" To: "Shop Talk" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:23:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I know I can spray paint red to yellow and/or simply fill up to 50% volume to reduce the weight. However, I'd simply like to have an original 2 or 2.5 gal container that doesn't take up the space of a 5 gal container nor does it look like a spray-bomb paint job. I would not think that that's too much to expect, but apparently the manufacturers do. I just got off the phone with two manufacturers of gas cans (Blitz and No-Spill) and they simply stated that there wasn't the demand for smaller cans (for diesel). Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA -----Original Message----- From: Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:29 PM To: Shop Talk Subject: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can Is there any logic behind there being few (if any) <5 gal yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. Any suggestions? Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/gsteve@hammatt.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4958 - Release Date: 04/25/12 _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 11:29:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413D42D0850 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:29:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BC2D2D083B for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:29:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 14789 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2012 17:29:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.113.13.208) by p3plsmtpa06-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.108) with ESMTP; 26 Apr 2012 17:29:40 -0000 Message-ID: <1ED914120250485CA19DAB687748CAAC@DesktopPC> From: "Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA" To: "Tim" , "Shop Talk" References: <28f2a9f8.dafb7.136ef6caa45.Webtop.47@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <28f2a9f8.dafb7.136ef6caa45.Webtop.47@charter.net> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:29:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tim I had found the steel containers, but why not plastic? Think about all the seasoned citizens with their RV's and car trailers being hauled behind Turbo Cummins or other (un-named) diesels that find it difficult to lift (and hold) to empty a 50 lb. plus can plus fuel. Also, steel vs. plastic for long term storage without corrosion. Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA -----Original Message----- From: Tim Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:12 AM To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can It is spendy but available. Found this with google search. I am sure there are other options. http://www.zorotools.com/g/00070082/k-G1764813?srccode=cii_23393768&cpncode=33-34222069-2&utm_source=channel_intelligence&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=AmazonProductAds or http://tinyurl.com/co6n7q4 tim On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA wrote: > Is there any logic behind there being few (if any) <5 gal > yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting > nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and > I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. > Any suggestions? > > Steve Hammatt > Mount Vernon WA USA > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/tputland@charter.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/gsteve@hammatt.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4960 - Release Date: 04/26/12 _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 18:26:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2502D0662 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:26:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989242D064C for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:26:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iajr24 with SMTP id r24so366706iaj.14 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:26:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=ORGjVrTS+y3o6yPX+cxQ7sarJgtnqXL03GCJhcv+Q/Y=; b=H5I/o2bMFF0dQwgDfm95xj8e9HoEKwFUy00zkeSL6YVzPa4y4hW6RNczDKSsdx7ehE jrHDWwqEPlJxQehdG7iI066eC7ZQlnRfO/mdsZ4WbglROk68COdZ9vaeS4dCo2IrN11B XOaW42hHz1Ir5jgoKu0fWcTR5RXMKY4SRWyUtaaXr3Y7HfshiyEmFt3okwIz0f4uFkRI J8mwzUlNQUbM2bIR0cOzBT8WDxEIjp6u3Sza5s8oLEwhYi03NfDe0Mqi686IKJzpsH6B FIrBqhNNpwNiUf+X/uCWFlNaXGoQ7QTZJbdV72O7yCch1N8D8aupYOfvyhOsm6DA/hWr sRRw== Received: by 10.50.42.134 with SMTP id o6mr113615igl.72.1335486389378; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.76.172.84] (mobile-166-147-096-051.mycingular.net. [166.147.96.51]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pa6sm968235igc.12.2012.04.26.17.26.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:26:27 -0700 (PDT) References: <28f2a9f8.dafb7.136ef6caa45.Webtop.47@charter.net> <1ED914120250485CA19DAB687748CAAC@DesktopPC> In-Reply-To: <1ED914120250485CA19DAB687748CAAC@DesktopPC> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <15BEF172-0DD3-4BB0-AC7B-DD7C52AA5183@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B179) From: David Scheidt Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:26:22 -0500 To: Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA Cc: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:29 PM, "Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA" wrote: > Tim > I had found the steel containers, but why not plastic? > Think about all the seasoned citizens with their RV's > and car trailers being hauled behind Turbo Cummins > or other (un-named) diesels that find it difficult to > lift (and hold) to empty a 50 lb. plus can plus fuel. That's why they've got huge fuel tanks. And failing that, that's what there's tow trucks for. > Also, steel vs. plastic for long term storage without > corrosion. Who stores two gallons of diesel? There are no diesel lawn mowers, leaf blowers or chain saws. If you've got a diesel it's in something youre going to use a lot of fuel for. > > Steve Hammatt > Mount Vernon WA USA > -----Original Message----- From: Tim > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:12 AM > To: shop-talk@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can > > It is spendy but available. Found this with google search. I am sure > there are other options. > > > http://www.zorotools.com/g/00070082/k-G1764813?srccode=cii_23393768&cpncode=3 3-34222069-2&utm_source=channel_intelligence&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign =AmazonProductAds > > or > > http://tinyurl.com/co6n7q4 > > tim > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA > wrote: > >> Is there any logic behind there being few (if any) <5 gal >> yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting >> nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and >> I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. >> Any suggestions? >> >> Steve Hammatt >> Mount Vernon WA USA >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Shop-talk@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/tputland@charter.net > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/gsteve@hammatt.com > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4960 - Release Date: 04/26/12 _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dmscheidt@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 20:16:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC562D0665 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:16:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C12A2D063D for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:02:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 24984 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2012 02:02:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.113.13.208) by p3plsmtpa08-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.193.109) with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2012 02:02:57 -0000 Message-ID: <1CB64DD455CD4981A0669F57D0A7FC0A@DesktopPC> From: "Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA" To: "David Scheidt" , "Shop Talk" References: <28f2a9f8.dafb7.136ef6caa45.Webtop.47@charter.net> <1ED914120250485CA19DAB687748CAAC@DesktopPC> <15BEF172-0DD3-4BB0-AC7B-DD7C52AA5183@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <15BEF172-0DD3-4BB0-AC7B-DD7C52AA5183@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:02:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry, I don't know if this reply was sent with a bit of tongue in cheek or not, but driving across Nebraska at night is something I'd like to feel a bit more comfortable with when I have an extra 25 miles of diesel fuel (it's not pretty when you run out with a diesel). Also, I'm not happy having my rig and 10,000 lb. car trailer towed by AAA. Also, when you live in the country and not in the city like some people, we do have diesel lawn mowers. My needs center around wanting to keep an emergency supply of fuel in the back of my open pickup (inside the lockable tool box) as my backup supply. So, if your comments were meant to be humorous, then so be it. If not, then you may consider that what works for you may not work for others. Thanks to all the others for your worthwhile comments and suggestions. They re appreciated. Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA -----Original Message----- From: David Scheidt Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:26 PM To: Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA Cc: Tim ; Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:29 PM, "Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA" wrote: > Tim > I had found the steel containers, but why not plastic? > Think about all the seasoned citizens with their RV's > and car trailers being hauled behind Turbo Cummins > or other (un-named) diesels that find it difficult to > lift (and hold) to empty a 50 lb. plus can plus fuel. That's why they've got huge fuel tanks. And failing that, that's what there's tow trucks for. > Also, steel vs. plastic for long term storage without > corrosion. Who stores two gallons of diesel? There are no diesel lawn mowers, leaf blowers or chain saws. If you've got a diesel it's in something youre going to use a lot of fuel for. > > Steve Hammatt > Mount Vernon WA USA > -----Original Message----- From: Tim > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:12 AM > To: shop-talk@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can > > It is spendy but available. Found this with google search. I am sure > there are other options. > > http://www.zorotools.com/g/00070082/k-G1764813?srccode=cii_23393768&cpncode=33-34222069-2&utm_source=channel_intelligence&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=AmazonProductAds > or > http://tinyurl.com/co6n7q4 > tim > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA > wrote: > >> Is there any logic behind there being few (if any) <5 gal >> yellow diesel plastic fuel cans? I have difficulty in lifting >> nearly 50 lb. of fuel over the side of my RAM 2500 and >> I would really like to stay away from the metal cans. >> Any suggestions? >> >> Steve Hammatt >> Mount Vernon WA USA _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 27 07:36:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5569D2D067B for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:36:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from thunder.banklogic.net (thunder.banklogic.net [72.22.18.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1388E2D065D for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:30:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from thunder.banklogic.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thunder.banklogic.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3RDUgr3014698 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:30:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by thunder.banklogic.net (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) with ESMTP id q3RDUg79014695 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:30:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: thunder.banklogic.net: mark owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:30:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Andy X-X-Sender: mark@thunder.banklogic.net To: Shop Talk In-Reply-To: <15BEF172-0DD3-4BB0-AC7B-DD7C52AA5183@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <28f2a9f8.dafb7.136ef6caa45.Webtop.47@charter.net> <1ED914120250485CA19DAB687748CAAC@DesktopPC> <15BEF172-0DD3-4BB0-AC7B-DD7C52AA5183@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: q3RDUgr3014698 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0.983, required 3, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_20 -0.00, RP_8BIT 1.98) X-MailScanner-From: marka@maracing.com Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Howdy, On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, David Scheidt wrote: > Who stores two gallons of diesel? There are no diesel lawn mowers, leaf > blowers or chain saws. If you've got a diesel it's in something youre > going to use a lot of fuel for. This one. I get that the OP wants this, but I'm totally fine with my 5 gal diesel cans for my tractor and motorhome. The motorhome would only go about 16 miles on 2 gallons of diesel anyway! :-) Mark (of course, the reason I have a diesel can in the motorhome is primarily so that I can more easily prime the fuel pump by filling the filter with fuel when I change it. Which seems to happen entirely too much in some random parking lot on the side of the road.) _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 27 07:52:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA8D2D031F for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:52:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974DD2D05E1 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:44:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120427134446.LYOE10143.mta41.charter.net@imp10> for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:44:46 -0400 Received: from wt06 ([209.225.8.46]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 31km1j0070zbdDt051km77; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:44:46 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=JYQIUidRAECiNa+jsiaNMIhYElg3H2WoMKCJIGO75f4= c=1 sm=1 a=4JSqmJ31oaEA:10 a=cWQ9uGxeeyIA:10 a=_y9jk15_30EA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=g9/lnmOh2JSgL3sSiPkglw==:17 a=LnPDOZ7jJ7PsLj4lAU4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=g9/lnmOh2JSgL3sSiPkglw==:117 Received: from [165.189.65.23] by enhanced.charter.net with HTTP; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:44:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:44:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim To: Shop Talk Message-ID: <2b6bd151.e84d3.136f40bf59f.Webtop.46@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Laszlo Mail 3 X-SID: 46 X-Originating-IP: [165.189.65.23] Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="no" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I think the "want" of a smaller fuel can is the ease of picking it up. I am sure if he can find smaller cans, he will not haul only one can. Haulling two gallons of any fuel would pretty much defeat the purpose of hauling fuel in the first place. tim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 27 07:56:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35092D066D for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:56:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yx0-f169.google.com (mail-yx0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDB52C0C97 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:56:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by yenm8 with SMTP id m8so522183yen.14 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:57:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2OXvA/wehM6rNrjS/v0Zg4zAFCk17AouQjSs4XtoTSA=; b=V0zXaAi6xmJuOAlTMoPNA+VvTCgrXBQNBQAlIckrP+CL7DySSAL6z4q0NSmTXXkrYI nQfQxW6yiMrr+qmHwz0gYXo10UUUNaG5piW7NyTLIAVsF0gwpNhHroIPoG/14Gp2AzKX GYX6R7uPWZfVuizmPs9NJGJ90vSP68NlsobLViyEhH76/hThB1BqAI1+IP57eBQsTVag T9Z9/h+gaUfka8QBcVCPoTBquFV4JXw9S+fKYyNxdHH1uoBY8Yukwl34dRr3uZKpKx6K oAbduu5McErVi9w/y2G68qcrCxlokCphiu06tJTYAb0jnLwCkb1CGE6NC/ByL0ztExzt 5YsA== Received: by 10.236.161.166 with SMTP id w26mr11011229yhk.105.1335535041908; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.174.2] ([216.173.174.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p3sm5355021and.4.2012.04.27.06.57.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F9AA5BC.3070801@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:57:16 -0400 From: Scott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: <28f2a9f8.dafb7.136ef6caa45.Webtop.47@charter.net> <1ED914120250485CA19DAB687748CAAC@DesktopPC> <15BEF172-0DD3-4BB0-AC7B-DD7C52AA5183@gmail.com> <1CB64DD455CD4981A0669F57D0A7FC0A@DesktopPC> In-Reply-To: <1CB64DD455CD4981A0669F57D0A7FC0A@DesktopPC> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net You have a diesel lawn mower? I want one! On 4/26/2012 10:02 PM, Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA wrote: > Sorry, I don't know if this reply was sent with a bit of tongue in cheek > or not, but driving across Nebraska at night is something I'd like > to feel a bit more comfortable with when I have an extra 25 miles > of diesel fuel (it's not pretty when you run out with a diesel). > Also, I'm not happy having my rig and 10,000 lb. car trailer > towed by AAA. > Also, when you live in the country and not in the city like some > people, we do have diesel lawn mowers. > My needs center around wanting to keep an emergency supply > of fuel in the back of my open pickup (inside the lockable tool box) > as my backup supply. > So, if your comments were meant to be humorous, then so be > it. If not, then you may consider that what works for you may > not work for others. > Thanks to all the others for your worthwhile comments > and suggestions. They re appreciated. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 27 08:07:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062372D05D2 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:07:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com (mail-yw0-f41.google.com [209.85.213.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572812D05E1 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:00:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by yhr47 with SMTP id 47so535717yhr.14 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:00:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=08MnHFZb5aF9XK/SGiI7X6HFBaWU1HbqRnxLOvEs57w=; b=CFuvlJXXeNlNb4MJxEToTkPo7UYWpRkBC07h26ZWoOuoZc6RXVUz38JUsyk01ZwtN4 IPWHCVbwAkRfSM8NBpaz/rt4fFMpgXtAWQkRAdhjIdB/3elZonZX0z7PYYcxufd7b2bc Vu4KQ96kc/MPcOVTfiIMF9Ouv9x2hBV5KtTrurFFCNIOZt+i+gXBrBSOnQzMaPOCTvVG 5SmMFdELSSb108lwP5aScw5pgEk2Xcxfd7YxvUMexkwichS7z0DrdzkJTpdif9jAuP2i uSfKFj5PlVPbcer7d+2TFvtBLV6i8QEr/xmptjAlLq4+Uwj5mlAfGcaJEfIf1obvg4/X LV+g== Received: by 10.236.154.35 with SMTP id g23mr11253426yhk.107.1335535233049; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.174.2] ([216.173.174.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k8sm5355384anl.12.2012.04.27.07.00.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F9AA67A.6000903@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:00:26 -0400 From: Scott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: <2b6bd151.e84d3.136f40bf59f.Webtop.46@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <2b6bd151.e84d3.136f40bf59f.Webtop.46@charter.net> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net And there are some cars that use diesel. I have the small yellow can I have for just the reason the o.p. mentioned--it's hard to lift fifty pounds of fuel and get the flexible spout to stay in a car's filler while trying to hold fifty pounds waist-high just *so*. Our cars will go about 100 miles on two gallons of fuel, and I don't want to use a AAA call for the times I think I can stretch the tank to 715 miles...and am wrong. (Not like I've ever done that. That's just being prepared. Yeah.) On 4/27/2012 9:44 AM, Tim wrote: > I think the "want" of a smaller fuel can is the ease of picking it up. > I am sure if he can find smaller cans, he will not haul only one can. > Haulling two gallons of any fuel would pretty much defeat the purpose > of hauling fuel in the first place. > tim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 27 08:55:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3634F2D0667 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:55:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BAD2D0667 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:51:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=ReYS+iRv c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=_y9jk15_30EA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=LnVB_BzQr60rjZtPWzUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=YSNpK2k8Ke3Azs_U:21 a=6y-Bj5qYTKq5z1fK:21 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FD/5F-07741-872BA9F4; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:51:37 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <2b6bd151.e84d3.136f40bf59f.Webtop.46@charter.net> <4F9AA67A.6000903@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:51:36 -0700 Message-ID: <04ad01cd2485$3f6de770$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4F9AA67A.6000903@gmail.com> Thread-Index: Ac0kfzAYI/mxwVYNQ2iIpc7C31JIOwAAncNQ Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > it's hard to lift fifty > pounds of fuel Just a thought, have you considered using a small transfer pump instead? It's not particularly quick, but one of those little 'clicker' Facet fuel pumps works pretty good as a 12v transfer pump. And it will do things like pump from a permanently mounted tank that would be difficult otherwise. BTW, 5 gallons of diesel fuel weighs less than 36 pounds. Add 4 pounds for a plastic can, and it's still only about 40 lbs. It only seems like 50 :) -- Randall _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 27 10:47:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459E12D038F for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:47:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5280A2D0619 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:41:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 10854 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2012 16:41:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.113.13.208) by p3plsmtpa07-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.236) with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2012 16:41:29 -0000 Message-ID: <2EB20ADC53C0411782ABE0EC54357FA0@DesktopPC> From: "Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA" To: "Shop Talk" References: <28f2a9f8.dafb7.136ef6caa45.Webtop.47@charter.net><1ED914120250485CA19DAB687748CAAC@DesktopPC><15BEF172-0DD3-4BB0-AC7B-DD7C52AA5183@gmail.com><1CB64DD455CD4981A0669F57D0A7FC0A@DesktopPC> <4F9AA5BC.3070801@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F9AA5BC.3070801@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:41:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net There are currently around 3 dozen used diesel John Deere Lawn Mowers listed for sale on eBay..........grin My neighbor's JD mower is a diesel, my JD is only a two cylinder lawn tractor (bummer!) Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA -----Original Message----- From: Scott Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:57 AM To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can You have a diesel lawn mower? I want one! On 4/26/2012 10:02 PM, Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA wrote: > Sorry, I don't know if this reply was sent with a bit of tongue in cheek > or not, but driving across Nebraska at night is something I'd like > to feel a bit more comfortable with when I have an extra 25 miles > of diesel fuel (it's not pretty when you run out with a diesel). > Also, I'm not happy having my rig and 10,000 lb. car trailer > towed by AAA. > Also, when you live in the country and not in the city like some > people, we do have diesel lawn mowers. > My needs center around wanting to keep an emergency supply > of fuel in the back of my open pickup (inside the lockable tool box) > as my backup supply. > So, if your comments were meant to be humorous, then so be > it. If not, then you may consider that what works for you may > not work for others. > Thanks to all the others for your worthwhile comments > and suggestions. They re appreciated. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/gsteve@hammatt.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4961 - Release Date: 04/26/12 _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 27 11:02:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3362D0711 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:02:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B942D05F9 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:00:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vbbey12 with SMTP id ey12so930715vbb.14 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:01:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=k/4XEyTyxTzKv6kt1enmtdBk7izBJHdP9YNCZGFj/AU=; b=vh4yywv1h38jOlEBlUBn7uFQg0b0iDSKfgv5/La+ChEMaxyIebX+IcrznpVFR3c3Yp LyAC/LIUeho87CtOezXWa0UWP4ajbxQdd9IxNAsI6hfXd8cfuyUf0s0KBNwD8sc0lepV UONKv+qPgM7i357lus1g7Nv6NXRTrl0+pvIYrfmUwTgXJ2h7oBJUFClduXS1SaNQhZ1+ 0GOMJ4qYHhqHF8+jsexjUHLbImrEIoXwcXYHlSypLpjM8jfQYEDB32HdM7J2+RIUwezY Q/NG9r1eqZQxS4PtfmCAUnv9NwhcE0V6AAJyFK0HSBzU/2dkDMGiw12cTTogiJ6cxb2I K/7Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.115.8 with SMTP id g8mr12080764vcq.8.1335546077776; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.186.194 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:01:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F9AA5BC.3070801@gmail.com> References: <28f2a9f8.dafb7.136ef6caa45.Webtop.47@charter.net> <1ED914120250485CA19DAB687748CAAC@DesktopPC> <15BEF172-0DD3-4BB0-AC7B-DD7C52AA5183@gmail.com> <1CB64DD455CD4981A0669F57D0A7FC0A@DesktopPC> <4F9AA5BC.3070801@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:01:17 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jeff Scarbrough To: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Scott wrote: > You have a diesel lawn mower? > > I want one! Kubota GR2120. I don't have one, but I've had several generators with the Kubota 3-cyl. Diesel engine. All of them were bulletproof. Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 13:09:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E415C2D06C3 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:09:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B4F2D065E for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:08:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iajr24 with SMTP id r24so3686124iaj.14 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:09:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=he1KHKdo+Ty5uVbWLlr33yxJHNLsrbJiT4I8au4bxkk=; b=d8dZyApu/4hc5yfYsFZU3Nl3DpVhM6+h+ZUZnh72Y1+/VO72WQt1J75EPf+bxl5y3c E+1A2GLe9w+12LpIa1h/2AUWGfxB8Z1MFMRL8IHkEhs9u0d6ocIzK5qWCIUx1r/lrE2Q /3LUPcHPDYbGriOnv1GuXoj04fEndL2tdQjl+omjSQRZ0KY2txhDoErGqaULSUnC2BRU rSZQVCargIskRhI0Xhe4h8RRsT8DDwHCuHa4Hi8/pcXFVgI+nx1jDl7XpdEbyV3rD8VV 61FriJvDbTGF3Wlaa+9rvaQg0Y9Ns7Qk1Hl/KTbPzsgWzYErFuKDzqylCaesxTOyDbfi WPQA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.219.199 with SMTP id pq7mr6321351igc.70.1335640167218; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.63.85 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:09:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1CB64DD455CD4981A0669F57D0A7FC0A@DesktopPC> References: <28f2a9f8.dafb7.136ef6caa45.Webtop.47@charter.net> <1ED914120250485CA19DAB687748CAAC@DesktopPC> <15BEF172-0DD3-4BB0-AC7B-DD7C52AA5183@gmail.com> <1CB64DD455CD4981A0669F57D0A7FC0A@DesktopPC> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:09:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: David Scheidt To: Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA Cc: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2 or 2.5 gal Diesel Fuel Can X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Steve Hammatt Mount Vernon WA USA wrote: > Sorry, I don't know if this reply was sent with a bit of tongue in cheek > or not, but driving across Nebraska at night is something I'd like > to feel a bit more comfortable with when I have an extra 25 miles > of diesel fuel (it's not pretty when you run out with a diesel). > Also, I'm not happy having my rig and 10,000 lb. car trailer > towed by AAA. > Also, when you live in the country and not in the city like some > people, we do have diesel lawn mowers. You asked why there was no demand for small diesel cans. I explained. It's economics. There simply aren't enough potential customers for such a thing. But everyone with a gas powered tool is a potential customer for a small gas can. > My needs center around wanting to keep an emergency supply > of fuel in the back of my open pickup (inside the lockable tool box) > as my backup supply. > So, if your comments were meant to be humorous, then so be > it. B If not, then you may consider that what works for you may > not work for others. You might consider my first post to thread was a pointer to someone who makes 2.5 gallon plastic diesel containers. -- David Scheidt dmscheidt@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 13:42:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E972D06C2 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:42:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 330512D0527 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:42:29 -0600 (MDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=juno.com; s=alpha; t=1335642179; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=YFDD6rIEoWJEgxo6z9JVQgmBnUnjc45S3ern2aL3/0fYO3/hPfzDDhGlNDL/4YyOh QlmPaQlk9ccc1R1gaeu+KbheRl2ZI+khlPcm8InhzTIBuBLjpTLsEln3UE1DWaS/uF oO5KCtQXwNqIO/ImecLRqbFXpOge/9cLxeYtlyBs= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail04.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.144]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABH32UA5AVAU2NJ for (sender ); Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:42:19 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: l0tzfbVg/zoqPq90CBJNEsqhFIpTWd+haeBEXjbDt+gEiRHEnDvN/w== Received: (from mbarre@juno.com) by webmail04.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id R7FWM5XN; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:42:00 PDT Received: from [24.214.163.54] by webmail04.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:41:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.214.163.54] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Matt" Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:41:25 GMT To: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailer: Webmail Version 6.1_P2 Message-Id: <20120428.154125.22997.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> X-UNTD-BodySize: 1580 X-ContentStamp: 1:1:1290611801 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.181.12.144|webmail04.vgs.untd.com|outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com|mbarre@juno.com X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [Shop-talk] 2.5 gallon fuel containers X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This specifically says not for fuel, but it is HDPE. It is only $7.60! I would just write "DIESEL" on it with a fat sharpie.http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?sku=75051 Here is another non-colored container made of HDPE but it elaborates that it isn't suitable for fuel due to some spill proof rating...It looks more sturdy than the cheaper jug but it is $17.50 Looks like a typical pit fuel container.http://www.shopthedude.com/prd.cl/SCR6221W _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 14:10:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918C32D0320 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:10:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9782D0501 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:05:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3XuE1j0031Y3wxoA8Y5bfN; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:05:35 +0000 Received: from Mike ([71.231.223.23]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3Y5Z1j00h0WuPoP8bY5ar5; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:05:34 +0000 Message-ID: <4DD45C3C5E6A40B08779E894A995E858@Mike> From: "Mike Sinclair" To: "Shop Talk" Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:05:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [Shop-talk] oil X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net My ancient small air compressor has a plug to check the oil. I haven't used it a lot lately, and decided to check the oil level, which is fine, but.........seems to me I used to have a small container of "compressor oil" for refilling, but of course, can't find it. Is this a special oil, or would any "motor oil" of the proper weight do? Mike _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 14:11:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6400D2D0364 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:11:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail931c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail931c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.121]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C142D0434 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:08:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail931c35.nsolutionszone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail931c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q3SK8qeW002094 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:08:52 GMT Received: (from webmail@localhost) by mail931c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.12.2/Submit) id q3SK8pvj002093 for shop-talk@autox.team.net; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:08:51 GMT Received: from 152-133-7-64.tic.va.gov (152-133-7-64.tic.va.gov [152.133.7.64]) by webmail2.centurytel.net (Webmail 4.0 V.V.I.) with HTTP for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:08:51 -0400 Message-ID: <20120428160851.nmcchdo6mbmsw4ck@webmail2.centurytel.net> From: ejrussell@mebtel.net To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:08:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Webmail 4.0 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=16DPCyreSGj6H6FZVYxyCUllM17wBvx+U4oG9MT6rgY= c=1 sm=1 a=vFMCQZgPscsA:10 a=8QKJhG4XSV0A:10 a=P2oOn6vrs4wA:10 a=GPr01A5e9VcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=QiQcBifw3rKpjI8epQikPQ==:17 a=Mv3IElaw3uUzdQZQeRYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=WkljmVdYkabdwxfqvArNOQ==:117 X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4F9C4E54.004B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] 2.5 gallon fuel containers X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: ejrussell@mebtel.net List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I use a 2.5 gallon red plastic gasoline jug and wrote 'diesel' on it with permanent marker. (I also have a 1 gallon red jug with fuel/oil mix labelled 'chain saw'.) I doubt that painting a red plastic container yellow will last. How about wrapping the handle with yellow tape (in addition to writing on it with permanent marker)? Eric Russell Mebane, NC _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 14:16:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14942D06C3 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:16:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B472D048C for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:16:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4DA2E025 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:23:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4F9C51B9.7090206@bradakis.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:23:21 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shop Talk References: <4DD45C3C5E6A40B08779E894A995E858@Mike> In-Reply-To: <4DD45C3C5E6A40B08779E894A995E858@Mike> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] oil X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I am fairly sure that it is just 30 weight non-detergent motor oil. I better check the level in my compressor this afternoon. On another note, while working on one problem I accidently caused another, as anyone who tried to get to the forums, the mailman admin page, the donate link or whatever during the last 12 hours or so would know. The server is now responding, though the problems I was working on are still unresolved. I'd rather be at The Mitty! mjb. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 17:06:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685292D06C0 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:06:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from nm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C0FC72D0340 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:06:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.68] by nm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 23:06:42 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.79] by tm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 23:06:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 23:06:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 841310.51711.bm@omp1016.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 67381 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2012 23:06:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1335654402; bh=+F/I/iDxM8uyODTgSxP+GziQvRnvEfi8G82WM7ICEjk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=DgurPA5R2DgSNB9yE68JkEhvT4+QQPDNSNwCBNct8gwxG1DWB7FwprsMAHPTyMtWRKE4SeJLlgvwoptW3d+48l7tWbQ2c8GIvJnGQsEpAiJ4NyGXw7rAw6//ZQz27hrBlugNbPu2NeF+v662iIlji/O8/yofOjJakOqIwIfTy+w= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: wNg.xt4VM1mSU6PFBJE1YrFKexxLaBO9UxTbwgbIoniD4Y2 J4ndW2D9RRuS7EUHEfOjfHYiCTRDcYZq2QJ1IpXPHzg0f5t1O1_fZYqudiMZ _ell4d6CXyQL2p2y4nTAoNG6nqppLo9Wpf.8W.8X9IcI3h8Qn2TmJ13nB7id 3ui4WEQnLfmomP6If4VcItn0CZn.igsCptXD9wMyqXQZk4SQwdlsBVvP9lp9 7nkEUJoVy1Mlc28xLyREDl2md2bNHdqb5LDNoSWFmhgrk4o59X1EnywI5qLr tYnNCXVf1W39vIwlMTLhq0edDU3xdPKSsdGwLc9EjQyRDR7RJJ5hUkqdoh1o UBfoVscL97MOLxfmotTmhOaollfWqXul8CfakgYHsRFUhQ64zfBKGoHvEBMn jPLAtxIR5ngz2osUC77h_FDzc7OHgjZMdlWHzh4r5KNJPv5J4lEBQRG76nbE a X-Yahoo-SMTP: 3dtw6zqswBAYSj6AeGVzA8W9QZCvdznm4FQr Received: from EntCentPC (jibjib@168.103.147.224 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2012 16:06:41 -0700 PDT From: "Jack Brooks" To: "'Shop Talk'" References: <4DD45C3C5E6A40B08779E894A995E858@Mike> In-Reply-To: <4DD45C3C5E6A40B08779E894A995E858@Mike> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:06:45 -0700 Message-ID: <834D663590EA4EFDAE6560F8CC687C2D@EntCentPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac0lex9N//W23GKcTd67ZXAS+C2RbgAF2bQQ Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] oil X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On my compressor it was simply motor oil. I inquired about using Mobil 1 and they were OK with it. I broke it in on Dino juice, the switched over to synthetic, so I'm 99% sure your manufacturer would be OK with motor oil. Call the manufacturer if you are concerned. -----Original Message----- From: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Sinclair Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 1:06 PM To: Shop Talk Subject: [Shop-talk] oil My ancient small air compressor has a plug to check the oil. I haven't used it a lot lately, and decided to check the oil level, which is fine, but.........seems to me I used to have a small container of "compressor oil" for refilling, but of course, can't find it. Is this a special oil, or would any "motor oil" of the proper weight do? Mike _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jibjib@att.net _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 17:50:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A062D083C for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:50:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756752D0822 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:48:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lagz14 with SMTP id z14so1762144lag.14 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:48:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=nQBe66dmlOeghWDuBfmz5Zz7b3mugGJ3SaZgvsQYaMc=; b=mgdipAD26owgBFqyPg/8LFC7C6bbqDfDWSDgelp9bvecNZVL59FKl+IQ+nxAyj6qkl qeerjNFueX628gobktGs3ozqBompFxqfDTYXuU753t8lxQz4uPhuMa9za9FUpkIvd3Y1 9hM2pZdBzLQo5outb0Hl0jWc3s3kj2PFOsoT8BVN4J3Rne8/BmbGFozAm1Sr+lMKXPZ/ I1wM7lGOI55RmNzVRP4coR3+g6b0+nk7E7Sk+SAD2VwB6DnAmeTQGRAWlTmR5f4uEGT0 SqJuNvn0ypj6hjQldcJuZo+hmg/9cSthd+hr+pfqmIYs1+6APe+OIi431EvXHQGZ44g1 h4aQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.23.200 with SMTP id o8mr7859444lbf.21.1335656907517; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.145.98 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:48:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DD45C3C5E6A40B08779E894A995E858@Mike> References: <4DD45C3C5E6A40B08779E894A995E858@Mike> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:48:27 -0400 Message-ID: From: Doug Braun To: Mike Sinclair X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlMVYboxm7YoRyKWj1DgFGol3E2sQFKQsnZY/R/5s38ZRZttO46OMf+1jGN1U/lj9SYL9/V X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] oil X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net The manual for my full-size compressor says to use "SAE-30 API CG/CD Heavy Duty" oil. The manual for a little compressor I have says the same, but also "non-detergent". I have always used that type of oil from Pep Boys, etc., never special compressor oil. Doug On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Mike Sinclair wrote: > My ancient small air compressor has a plug to check the oil. I haven't > used > it a lot lately, and decided to check the oil level, which is fine, > but.........seems to me I used to have a small container of "compressor > oil" > for refilling, but of course, can't find it. Is this a special oil, or > would > any "motor oil" of the proper weight do? _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 18:06:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4862D0704 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:06:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981852D047C for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:04:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbjn8 with SMTP id n8so1184266lbj.14 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:04:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=2wVf4YLEebmsKGj4FhtKdfHDx0zVjc8GjiiGB5bDLpU=; b=WQ/cJdZjRdKGBpxuDZhpyWcUHmKJs3dB0GPy6txHt0P5Rorhfu+h6HncYkxVJZtIQM zivCZLF67VnEuyrUPah8sjp6jHSDidvdYcxRCFMbSROihT2vfQ+BU9u65Rd/V0RoiL9u QGnnOVLkFDmnLS3TWnQmkIHY8VgLDW5Z96ybeUHk4XdYLx0ayiMrIgZ6qLUfRT1CZnyf HPwE5JdSPSdDDmnlO8ib34Bhvaf8gy26ZEbTDrcUMslX0qw9+ZGgMpLvF8AX44XyvJjx bgMCfnTtK9s2EeSX1BgdQxMUs8BhO+ZeI9tGPtlDbQ21oKOonRPaN6ihoo8zh5AuBtBb kZgg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.145.228 with SMTP id sx4mr14547586lab.45.1335657875970; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.145.98 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:04:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <043d01cd258e$1b247410$516d5c30$@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:04:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: Doug Braun To: Shop-Talk X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnBpGXv+r0BHZSGq1bLu1pnngj2RlrzBw282OYoXewXjLxDulsb9LUFqWVJAd3GH47CsYdf X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [Shop-talk] Fwd: [Spits] Oil Pump Priming-Maybe a dumb question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Doug Braun Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spits] Oil Pump Priming-Maybe a dumb question To: Daniel Parrott Several years ago I did this with a drill. I think I used a wooden dowel or something similar to connect the drill to the pump. BTW, you have to run the drill COUNTERCLOCKWISE! It wasn't so much a matter of priming the pump (I think the impellers are submerged in the sump), but of ensuring that it actually worked. Doug On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Daniel Parrott wrote: > I'm getting ready to fire up the engine in my Spit 6 Project car and was > about to use a drill to prime the oil pump. I removed the dizzy and found > the gear, still mated to the cam shaft. I guess I need to remove the gear > and lower shaft to get to the upper end of the oil pump. True? Is there a > special Triumph-specific oil pump priming tool to attach to the oil pump? > > > > Making sure I don't make a dumb mistake. (again) > > > > Dan Parrott > > Savannah, Georgia > > 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ", AKA "Rat" > > 1973/1978 Spit Six "Joseph" > > 1957 Chevy Belair "Mayflower" > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/doug@dougbraun.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 19:45:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750242D02E0 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:45:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001F32D041C for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:45:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Hvb06jvS c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=0ilzZ432AAAA:20 a=6FtOi-UL9lvRC27hlNQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55006] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 72/26-16302-E5D9C9F4; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 01:46:07 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: "'Shop Talk'" References: <4DD45C3C5E6A40B08779E894A995E858@Mike> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:46:06 -0700 Message-ID: <064501cd25a9$d86411f0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac0lmb+yObIfjQvUSPym5cy5Ny3cqwADkRQw Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] oil X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > The manual for my full-size compressor says to use "SAE-30 > API CG/CD Heavy > Duty" oil. > The manual for a little compressor I have says the same, but also > "non-detergent". That's curious. I was under the impression that API standards CD and CG required detergents. Anyway, my full-size compressor says to use "CE or better" but then warns that "multi-viscosity oils will shorten compressor life". A little poking around on IR's web site reveals that they are so proud of their synthetic compressor oil that they double the warranty on the compressor if you use it. http://tinyurl.com/7b6lfjn -- Randall _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 15:01:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27FE2C0B38 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:01:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF1F2D07DD for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:01:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lagz14 with SMTP id z14so2145076lag.14 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:02:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=sdG3x1dTp3oP1SFgDG9wUKFoGFb7Kz0Cag2rn6XPvlM=; b=X1uy6PFwbnzaF9pCMB78y2dqhlYs3sHq/7WtPySNKKm28A71h5X+ucpYwV0ou2hCbW s72tabflfYmtk5BotJZKLUoQTBSc2CHxaXd4XzUNDiC6n6SYdNvvN+xi0pONCykfdzh8 PU4KXG5ciftMVtVJ8tooYoQBFWmIoyn/4C0RltXuapNmtXC2pm4UUw0HW6pDLRqYTTWC nA2i9yF0YdEvq4G663U1OcnDZ5ERKEaCeVcrJVcPQnJ/Q54dMFAIU2jvpsLkpjxbC0ua Dy4tIpTau8nCy5MWI1kfiuiHKaniC/EavasQKXo8aTO03ksWOTDrJN6fY+lqmArkfrmb dCXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.84.202 with SMTP id b10mr9129959lbz.7.1335733333220; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.145.98 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:02:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <064501cd25a9$d86411f0$0601a8c0@randall> References: <4DD45C3C5E6A40B08779E894A995E858@Mike> <064501cd25a9$d86411f0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:02:13 -0400 Message-ID: From: Doug Braun To: Randall X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlQhQuuI4QIzoA9YV95fGfVMykJrU3JXU6Bs2yIC5BLJ7bVJNldOsqSLtL4hqbQBjgWy4rw X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] oil X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I once read some compressor manual that said to avoid multi-viscosity or detergent oils (one or the other, but I forget which) because they would cause carbon deposits to build up on the reed valves. That sounded a bit odd to me, since there is no combustion happening... Doug On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Randall wrote: > > The manual for my full-size compressor says to use "SAE-30 > > API CG/CD Heavy > > Duty" oil. > > The manual for a little compressor I have says the same, but also > > "non-detergent". > > That's curious. I was under the impression that API standards CD and CG > required detergents. > > Anyway, my full-size compressor says to use "CE or better" but then warns > that "multi-viscosity oils will shorten compressor life". > > A little poking around on IR's web site reveals that they are so proud of > their synthetic compressor oil that they double the warranty on the > compressor if you use it. > > http://tinyurl.com/7b6lfjn > > -- Randall > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/doug@dougbraun.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 17:48:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BAE2D07BD for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:48:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mania.lunarmania.com (mania.lunarmania.com [67.210.98.240]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC0F2D0760 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:48:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-7-68-55.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net ([99.7.68.55] helo=dellPC) by mania.lunarmania.com with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SOdr9-0001bj-5B; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:48:43 -0700 Message-ID: <0981C7BEEFAA4968BE4CC6C0BA4EDD80@dellPC> From: "Bob Nogueira" To: "Doug Braun" , "Shop-Talk" References: <043d01cd258e$1b247410$516d5c30$@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:47:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mania.lunarmania.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - autox.team.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - texmog.com Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fwd: [Spits] Oil Pump Priming-Maybe a dumb question X-BeenThere: shop-talk@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Random workshop related discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Several years ago I attempted to "pre-oil' my newly rebuilt TR 4 engine by removing the distributor gear and fabricating a rod to drive the oil pump. Ended up covering myself in oil. Apparently the oil is pumped up from the pump to the drive gear; if a drive rod to the pump is of a smaller diameter than the gear drive shaft the oil will shoot straight up into your face. The solution was to locate an old drive gear and remove the shaft from the gear and use just the shaft. Once I figured that out it worked great. Bob _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mharc@autox.team.net