Subject: Re: [Oletrucks] Two basic questions

From: GALE GORMAN <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2015 07:14:15 -0600

Why change the rear end?

Gale Gorman
Houston
’54 3100
’67 C20

On Oct 31, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Harry Spencer <[email-masked]> wrote:

Hello All. I’m thinking many of you know these answers off the top of your heads. My 1955 First series Chevy is finally ready for an engine, tranny and rearend.
 
I’ve got a 350 out of an 1985 Suburban but need a trans. I want a 700 R4. From what I’ve read, the best years are 1987 to 1992. I’m trying to avoid all the computerization. Any thoughts and suggestions?
 
What is the ideal width for a rearend? I’m looking at a 2000 Camaro 10 bolt that is 65 and ½ wide.
 
I’m building this on a budget of course. Think driver, not horsepower.
 
Thanks.
Harry
1955 First Series

 
 
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From: "Harry Spencer" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 06:44:55 -0800

I've already got a Mustang IFS installed with the standard Chevy five bolt
pattern and want the rear to match. I haven't learned anyway to convert the
stock six lug rear end to five lug. I'd certainly consider keeping the stock
rear if that was possible. Harry

-----Original Message-----
From: GALE GORMAN [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 5:14 AM
To: Harry Spencer
Cc: Oletrucks list
Subject: Re: [Oletrucks] Two basic questions

Why change the rear end?

Gale Gorman
Houston
’54 3100
’67 C20

Hello All. I’m thinking many of you know these answers off the top of your
heads. My 1955 First series Chevy is finally ready for an engine, tranny and
rearend.
 
I’ve got a 350 out of an 1985 Suburban but need a trans. I want a 700 R4.
>From what I’ve read, the best years are 1987 to 1992. I’m trying to avoid
all the computerization. Any thoughts and suggestions?
 
What is the ideal width for a rearend? I’m looking at a 2000 Camaro 10 bolt
that is 65 and ½ wide.

Thanks.
Harry
1955 First Series

 

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From: GALE GORMAN <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2015 09:32:27 -0600

I preferred to keep my solid front axle. I’m not a purist since I do like a V8. We each spent our own money so I firmly support doing whatever seems right.

Gale

On Nov 1, 2015, at 8:44 AM, Harry Spencer <[email-masked]> wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: GALE GORMAN [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 5:14 AM
To: Harry Spencer
Cc: Oletrucks list
Subject: Re: [Oletrucks] Two basic questions

Why change the rear end?

Gale Gorman
Houston
’54 3100
’67 C20

Thanks.
Harry
1955 First Series

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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 12:38:52 -0800

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I have tried to learn how to spend other people=92s money (legally) and =
so far it has not worked for me! =20

I agree that as long as you don=92t drop that major cast iron on your =
foot you are not hurting anybody putting a V-8 in your truck.  (If you =
didn=92t you would be saying to yourself =93I coulda had a V8!! =97I=92ll =
be here all week=85)  The only rule is that we must all enjoy every step =
of the hobby and the results of our labors.

Happy November!

jt

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> I've already got a Mustang IFS installed with the standard Chevy five =
bolt
> pattern and want the rear to match. I haven't learned anyway to =
convert the
> stock six lug rear end to five lug. I'd certainly consider keeping the =
stock
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> On Oct 31, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Harry Spencer <[email-masked]> =
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tranny and
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10 bolt
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Chevy five bolt<br class=3D"">pattern and want the rear to match. I =
haven't learned anyway to convert the<br class=3D"">stock six lug rear =
end to five lug. I'd certainly consider keeping the stock<br =
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finally ready for an engine, tranny and<br class=3D"">rearend.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I=92ve got a 350 out of an 1985 Suburban but =
need a trans. I want a 700 R4.<br class=3D"">=46rom what I=92ve read, =
the best years are 1987 to 1992. I=92m trying to avoid<br class=3D"">all =
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From: GALE GORMAN <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2015 16:07:58 -0600

My ’54 is completely disassembled right now. The frame is bare, cab is on a rotisserie, bed is in pieces, and the motor is covered up on the shop floor. The ’67 C20 I have is a rust bucket. I had planned to rebuild both but I’ve been thinking of using the 292 from the C20 in the ’54 3100. If I do that I’ll probably just part out the ’67.

Gale Gorman
Houston

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I have tried to learn how to spend other people’s money (legally) and so far it has not worked for me!  

I agree that as long as you don’t drop that major cast iron on your foot you are not hurting anybody putting a V-8 in your truck.  (If you didn’t you would be saying to yourself “I coulda had a V8!! —I’ll be here all week…)  The only rule is that we must all enjoy every step of the hobby and the results of our labors.

Happy November!

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follow this link and scroll way down for lots of rearend info
http://www.chevytrucks.org/tech/ifs&rearend.htm
looks like the 47-55.1 rearend is 60'' wide only 2'' narrower than the
55.2-59 trucks at 62''

i run a gen3 trans am rearend that is 61.5'' in my 58 w/ 3.27 gear, disc
brakes and posi
however... because i am lowered with the mustII, rear axle flipped on top
of the springs with wider wheels and tires
i have a hard time getting my rear tires off. it requires jacking the frame
not the axle
and wiggling the tire out from in between the hub and fender, not pretty
but no damage yet :)

if your rear axle is 60'' wide i recommend going with a 58'' max width axle
just to avoid my problem
if you plan on lowering your truck, since you have the mustII i figure it's
lower than stock
if you want high mpg then go with a a 3.25 to 3.50 ratio, lower than 3.00
you may loose the power band

as for your trans, definitely go with the 700r4, though the 200r4 is just
as good
with the 700r4, 3.27 ratio and 350 sbc i get 20 mpg on the highway
i do have the gm ramjet 350 (350hp and 400 ftlb) so my power band is a
little better than most sbc
i can still burn the tires thru 3 gears if i want to

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">follow this link and scroll way=
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ech/ifs&amp;rearend.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://www.chevytrucks.org/tech/=
ifs&amp;rearend.htm</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">looks like the 47-5=
5.1 rearend is 60&#39;&#39; wide only 2&#39;&#39; narrower than the 55.2-59=
 trucks at 62&#39;&#39;</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra">i run a gen3 trans am rearend that is 61.5&#39;&#39; in m=
y 58 w/ 3.27 gear, disc brakes and posi</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">how=
ever... because i am lowered with the mustII, rear axle flipped on top of t=
he springs with wider wheels and tires</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">i ha=
ve a hard time getting my rear tires off. it requires jacking the frame not=
 the axle</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">and wiggling the tire out from in=
 between the hub and fender, not pretty but no damage yet :)</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">if your rear axle is=
 60&#39;&#39; wide i recommend going with a 58&#39;&#39; max width axle jus=
t to avoid my problem</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">if you plan on loweri=
ng your truck, since you have the mustII i figure it&#39;s lower than stock=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">if you want high mpg then go with a a 3.25=
 to 3.50 ratio, lower than 3.00 you may loose the power band</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">as for your trans, d=
efinitely go with the 700r4, though the 200r4 is just as good</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra">with the 700r4, 3.27 ratio and 350 sbc i get 20 mpg on t=
he highway</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">i do have the gm ramjet 350 (350=
hp and 400 ftlb) so my power band is a little better than most sbc</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra">i can still burn the tires thru 3 gears if i want t=
o=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
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