Subject: Re: [Mgs] it's not goodbye, but I'm not sure what it is

From: Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 12:45:38 -0500

Buzz off turncoat! :-D I'm contemplating selling my '69 tourer.  Don't 
drive it much anymore.  But I still remember the empty feeling I has 
after selling my '70. :-\

CR

On 6/8/2016 11:09 PM, Aaron Whiteman via Mgs wrote:
> After 16 years of ownership, I sold my MG tonight. I bought a NB Miata about 2 months ago, so I knew the writing was on the wall.
>
> Watching the big smiles of the new owner and his daughter made it worthwhile, but it still hurt a little to watch my little car drive off without me. This might be the first time in 30 years that there hasn’t been an MG in my life.
>
> I’m still processing it.
>
> I’m sitting in my garage, looking at the empty spot where my car used to sit. To my left is my Mazda. I should move it over so I can put my Subaru back in the Garage. But when I think about it, I just think “too soon”. Maybe tomorrow.
>
> So please everybody, keep telling stories. Keep reminding me of what I just gave up. I love my MX-5, but my MG was with me for nearly half my life, I want to keep those memories fresh until someday I return to the fold.
>
> I’ll be listening.
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From: Aaron Whiteman via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 14:59:50 -0400 (EDT)

On Thu, 9 Jun 2016, Charley & Peggy Robinson wrote:

> Buzz off turncoat! :-D I'm contemplating selling my '69 tourer.  Don't drive 
> it much anymore.  But I still remember the empty feeling I has after selling 
> my '70. :-\

It was really hard; much harder than I thought it would be. Despite
the oil leak that I never could fix, I like to think that the car left
my hands in much better condition than when I got it.

Even with all the warts that come with the later examples of the MGB,
it is a really special car to own. The MX-5 is fun to drive, goes
faster, is more reliable, and is more refined (air con! cruise
control! a cup holder!). But it's not quite the same.

Will I miss the major repairs I've had to do over the years to keep
the 'B in proper driving condition? Frankly, no. But I'll miss the
intimate connection with the car that those tasks created.

-- 
Aaron Whiteman

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From: David Councill via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 08:14:50 -0700

Last time I sold my only MGB was over thirty years ago - that lasted about
two years before I had to buy another one. At that time, I had a 52 mile
commute to work (each way) , my replacement car was a gas guzzling Toyota
Land Cruiser, and the drive needed to be fun. Now I have three MGs which I
drive regularly. I hope the MGB you sold was locally so I am not the only
one in the Washington State University area driving around and keeping MGB
visibility. 

I did, in a similar manner, part with my big British car, two months ago. I
sold my 2001 Land Rover Discovery, trading it in on a Chevy Silverado pickup
truck. Less expensive repairs, better carrying and towing capacity, and much
better cup holders.

David Councill
64 B
67 BGT
72 B

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Subject: Re: [Mgs] it's not goodbye, but I'm not sure what it is

> after selling my '70. :-\

It was really hard; much harder than I thought it would be. Despite the oil
leak that I never could fix, I like to think that the car left my hands in
much better condition than when I got it.

Even with all the warts that come with the later examples of the MGB, it is
a really special car to own. The MX-5 is fun to drive, goes faster, is more
reliable, and is more refined (air con! cruise control! a cup holder!). But
it's not quite the same.

Will I miss the major repairs I've had to do over the years to keep the 'B
in proper driving condition? Frankly, no. But I'll miss the intimate
connection with the car that those tasks created.

--
Aaron Whiteman

[email-masked]

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From: David Ambrose via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 11:09:26 -0700

We have a '94 Miata. They are indeed worthy successors to our beloved 
MGs. I periodically wonder about transplanting the Miata engine, trans, 
and rear axle to the MGB. Then my sanity returns, and I go back to 
putting my son's Midget back on the road.

On 6/8/2016 9:09 PM, Aaron Whiteman via Mgs wrote:
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From: Max Heim via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:55:14 -0700

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Good. I have very little patience with various transplant schemes. I =
*like* the MG engine =E2=80=94 it revs smoothly, it sounds great, it =
pulls from low RPM in any gear, it=E2=80=99s tough as nails =E2=80=94 =
what=E2=80=99s not to like? It is not in any sense =E2=80=9Ctractor-like=E2=
=80=9D =E2=80=94 I utterly reject that canard. I suppose the poor souls =
suffering with the single-carb low compression smog engines might have a =
different response.

The MG gearbox is also a treat, even allowing for the occasional balky =
synchro. With OD, who needs a 5 speed?

It=E2=80=99s not like a 1500cc MX-5 engine is going to make it all that =
much faster. And you lose the soul.

Not to mention, you have now added electronics and fuel injection to the =
list of potential problems. And those can=E2=80=99t be fixed by the =
rough-and-ready methods previously employed.

Then there=E2=80=99s loading up your tool bag with metric wrenches=E2=80=A6=

Bah, humbug, I say. If you want a Miata, buy a Miata=E2=80=A6 as I =
observe some of us have done...

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB GHN3L76149
If you're near Menlo Park, CA,
it's the primer red one with chrome wires
And now 67 MGB GHN3U137949G
Now British Racing Green, off-premises for restoration

> On Jun 10, 2016, at 11:09 AM, David Ambrose via Mgs =
>=20
>=20
> We have a '94 Miata. They are indeed worthy successors to our beloved =
MGs. I periodically wonder about transplanting the Miata engine, trans, =
and rear axle to the MGB. Then my sanity returns, and I go back to =
putting my son's Midget back on the road.
>=20
>=20
>> After 16 years of ownership, I sold my MG tonight. I bought a NB =
Miata about 2 months ago, so I knew the writing was on the wall.
>>=20
>> Watching the big smiles of the new owner and his daughter made it =
worthwhile, but it still hurt a little to watch my little car drive off =
without me. This might be the first time in 30 years that there hasn=E2=80=
=99t been an MG in my life.
>>=20
>> I=E2=80=99m still processing it.
>>=20
>> I=E2=80=99m sitting in my garage, looking at the empty spot where my =
car used to sit. To my left is my Mazda. I should move it over so I can =
put my Subaru back in the Garage. But when I think about it, I just =
think =E2=80=9Ctoo soon=E2=80=9D. Maybe tomorrow.
>>=20
>> So please everybody, keep telling stories. Keep reminding me of what =
I just gave up. I love my MX-5, but my MG was with me for nearly half my =
life, I want to keep those memories fresh until someday I return to the =
fold.
>>=20
>> I=E2=80=99ll be listening.
>>=20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Good. I have very little patience with various transplant =
schemes. I *like* the MG engine =E2=80=94 it revs smoothly, it sounds =
great, it pulls from low RPM in any gear, it=E2=80=99s tough as nails =
=E2=80=94 what=E2=80=99s not to like? It is not in any sense =
=E2=80=9Ctractor-like=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 I utterly reject that canard. I =
suppose the poor souls suffering with the single-carb low compression =
smog engines might have a different response.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The MG gearbox is also a treat, even =
allowing for the occasional balky synchro. With OD, who needs a 5 =
speed?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It=E2=80=99=
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employed.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Then =
there=E2=80=99s loading up your tool bag with metric =
wrenches=E2=80=A6</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Bah, humbug, I say. If you want a Miata, buy a Miata=E2=80=A6 =
as I observe some of us have done...</div><div class=3D""><br =
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class=3D"">On Jun 10, 2016, at 11:09 AM, David Ambrose via Mgs &lt;<a =
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widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: =
none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">We have a '94 Miata. They =
are indeed worthy successors to our beloved MGs. I periodically wonder =
about transplanting the Miata engine, trans, and rear axle to the MGB. =
Then my sanity returns, and I go back to putting my son's Midget back on =
the road.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; =
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">On 6/8/2016 9:09 PM, Aaron Whiteman via =
Mgs wrote:</span><br style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
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0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">After 16 =
years of ownership, I sold my MG tonight. I bought a NB Miata about 2 =
months ago, so I knew the writing was on the wall.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Watching the big smiles of the new owner and his daughter =
made it worthwhile, but it still hurt a little to watch my little car =
drive off without me. This might be the first time in 30 years that =
there hasn=E2=80=99t been an MG in my life.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m still processing it.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m sitting in my garage, looking at the empty spot =
where my car used to sit. To my left is my Mazda. I should move it over =
so I can put my Subaru back in the Garage. But when I think about it, I =
just think =E2=80=9Ctoo soon=E2=80=9D. Maybe tomorrow.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">So please everybody, keep telling stories. Keep reminding me =
of what I just gave up. I love my MX-5, but my MG was with me for nearly =
half my life, I want to keep those memories fresh until someday I return =
to the fold.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ll be listening.<br =
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From: David Breneman via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 13:52:47 +0000 (UTC)

Better to sell a beloved MG than to total it,
which is what I did many years ago.  The dreams
about that didn't stop until I got another MG
and began restoring it almost 15 years later.

 David Breneman         [email-masked]
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