Subject: Re: [Mgs] MG GS

From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:06:58 +0000 (UTC)

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Well, those may not be good examples - TVR and Lotus have both gone in and =
out of bankruptcy over the years, as well as multiple owners. And yeah, whi=
le MGis no longer the same as it was under BMC and Leyland, there is a line=
age there. Most of their intended market has no idea what they 'used' to be=
, anyway, andprobably wouldn't care. We are not part of their intended mark=
et.

Dan D

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      From: Barrie Robinson via Mgs <[email-masked]>
 To: David Breneman <[email-masked]>; "[email-masked]" <mgs@a=
utox.team.net>=20
 Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 9:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [Mgs] MG GS
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There are two situations.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The one where someone takes overthe c=
ompany and continues with the product.=C2=A0 Examples are TVR andLotus.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 The other is where the company is bought for itsbadge.=C2=A0 Exam=
ple Bugatti,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Perfect view on thisstuck-on badge thing is =
Pierre Cardin whose name is on a whole host ofproducts which he never goes =
even remotely near.=C2=A0 He says ifyou don't know that he is=C2=A0 only in=
to haunt couture then toughif you buy a product outside his domain just bec=
ause it has his name ison it.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Putting a badge on an item does n=
ot do anything butpull in the punters - it does not magically change the pr=
oduct.

At 09:59 PM 2/1/2016 +0000, David Breneman via Mgs wrote:

=C2=A0From: Barrie Robinson viaMgs <[email-masked]>

> I would never ever buy one.=C2=A0 What in Satan's domain has it gotto do

> with MG ?? ...=20

>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0...So why buy an MG> that is only labelled as=
 an MG.

What makes an automotive marque authentic?=C2=A0 You could arguethat
the 1100 saloon and the 1960s Midget aren't "real" MGs,either.
Does a ford need to be made in Dearborn to be a real Ford? Is
a new Bentley not a real Bentley because the company is owned by
VW?=C2=A0 Is any Cadillac made by GM (since 1909) not authentic?
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sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454415062953_17752">Wel=
l, those may not be good examples - TVR and Lotus have both gone in and out=
 of bankruptcy over the years, as well as multiple owners. And yeah, while =
MG</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454415062953_17773" dir=3D"ltr">is no long=
er the same as it was under BMC and Leyland, there is a lineage there. Most=
 of their intended market has no idea what they 'used' to be, anyway, and</=
div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454415062953_17794" dir=3D"ltr">probably would=
n't care. We are not part of their intended market.<br></div><div id=3D"yui=
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e=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Barrie Robin=
son via Mgs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: b=
old;">To:</span></b> David Breneman &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; "mgs@=
autox.team.net" &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weig=
ht: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 1, 2016 9:36 PM<br> <b id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1454415062953_17864"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454415062953_178=
63" style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Mgs] MG GS<br> </=
font> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454415062953_17871" class=3D"y_msg_co=
ntainer"><br><div id=3D"yiv0702040283">
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454415062953_17872">
There are two situations.&nbsp;&nbsp; The one where someone takes over
the company and continues with the product.&nbsp; Examples are TVR and
Lotus.&nbsp;&nbsp; The other is where the company is bought for its
badge.&nbsp; Example Bugatti,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perfect view on this
stuck-on badge thing is Pierre Cardin whose name is on a whole host of
products which he <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1454415062953_17873">never </b>goes=
 even remotely near.&nbsp; He says if
you don't know that he is&nbsp; <b>only </b>into haunt couture then tough
if you buy a product outside his domain just because it has his name is
on it.&nbsp;&nbsp; Putting a badge on an item does not do anything but
pull in the punters - it does not magically change the product.<br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
At 09:59 PM 2/1/2016 +0000, David Breneman via Mgs wrote:<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"yiv0702040283cite" cite=3D"">&nbsp;From:=
 Barrie Robinson via
Mgs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><br>
&gt; I would never ever buy one.&nbsp; What in Satan's domain has it got
to do<br><br>
&gt; with MG ?? ... <br><br>
<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
...So why buy an MG&gt; that is only labelled as an MG.<br><br>
<br>
What makes an automotive marque authentic?&nbsp; You could argue
that<br>
the 1100 saloon and the 1960s Midget aren't "real" MGs,
either.<br>
Does a ford need to be made in Dearborn to be a real Ford? Is<br>
a new Bentley not a real Bentley because the company is owned by<br>
VW?&nbsp; Is any Cadillac made by GM (since 1909) not authentic?<br>
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