From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 1 18:13:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A44A2584502 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:13:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C292584E6F for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:08:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from FrankPC ([100.40.67.189]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NPA005FJ5509640@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for mgs@autox.team.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:07:53 -0500 (CDT) a=LTkUXWaq_goA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=yFsYX9g5GnsPR8-hQJkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=4i-G68QZGhMA:10 a=nzdylPKEbuUA:10 a=8UnIQZqwR3UA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Bie7kfhYR98A:10 a=UF909vspFEgA:10 a=UBz-Jv_xNXcA:10 To: "MG List" Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 15:07:49 -0400 Importance: Normal Subject: [Mgs] Test From: FrankK via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0289790001190625834== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0078_01D09C7C.B94551B0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01D09C7C.B94551B0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is the list working? No posts for several days now. Frank K ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01D09C7C.B94551B0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is the list working? No posts for several days now.
Frank K
------=_NextPart_000_0078_01D09C7C.B94551B0-- --===============0289790001190625834== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============0289790001190625834==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 1 18:14:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0327A25845A6 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:14:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4847E25850D7 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:09:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-8-imp with bizsmtp id aEjl1q0034LtS4201Ejlvb; Sat, 30 May 2015 15:43:45 +0100 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=7AKvOqw5KEXN5QzCyLIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=50LYLiLJ1kprOVLNKVoA:9 a=ZtsG8kK2Fx70A39Z:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 To: , "MG List" References: <286821624.1595530.1432927473342.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <2098720546.1986021.1432991523145.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 15:17:30 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] No Start From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7384517853920565445== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0175_01D09AEB.BEC555A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0175_01D09AEB.BEC555A0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Filter is not an indicator, it can be anything from full to empty with = the car running as it should. Why I don't know, but I've seen both on = mine, and so have others. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 Re: the fuel pump - it's an aftermarket 'black box' electric pump that = clicks all the time, albeit not as loudly as an SU pump. But I did check = it when I was at the side of the road and it was operating as it usually does, and there was fuel sitting in the = filter in the engine bay. ------=_NextPart_000_0175_01D09AEB.BEC555A0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Filter is not an indicator, it can be anything = from full=20 to empty with the car running as it should.  Why I don't know, but = I've=20 seen both on mine, and so have others.
 
PaulH.
 
----- Original Message -----
Re: the fuel pump - it's an = aftermarket 'black=20 box' electric pump that clicks all the time, albeit not as loudly as = an SU=20 pump. But I did check it when I was at the side of the road and
it was operating = as it usually=20 does, and there was fuel sitting in the filter in the engine bay.=20
------=_NextPart_000_0175_01D09AEB.BEC555A0-- --===============7384517853920565445== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============7384517853920565445==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 1 18:16:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A462584743 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:16:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C93258485E for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:15:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-8-imp with bizsmtp id a9n01q00P4LtS42019n1rN; Sat, 30 May 2015 10:47:01 +0100 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=H1nMRNMPRDliEoD-Wm0A:9 a=VCPcmCC-m1MK4aeI:21 a=-cq-pEXILp6Wee_T:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=nwlTGuH3FThE4cUPHDoA:9 a=KqAK5-Puttz1xCNz:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 To: , "MG List" References: <286821624.1595530.1432927473342.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 10:40:48 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] No Start From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2225466334242435799== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006B_01D09AC5.17542650" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01D09AC5.17542650 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do not overhaul your carbs at this stage, it may be nothing to do with = them. The first check should have been to look at the tach the instant this = started happening, and before you did anything else like turned off, = dipped the clutch etc. If the tach has dropped to zero when the = momentum of the car is still spinning the engine, then you have an = ignition LT fault. Additionally if the ignition warning light was on = you have lost the supply from the ignition switch. If the tach still registers then it is either HT, fuel, or possibly = condenser if it has points, so check the spark while cranking with a = spare plug laying on the block. What do you mean by 'fuel pump is clicking away'? If it's clicking all = the time the ignition is on, and it's an SU, then either the pump is = faulty or it can't pick up fuel, possibly because the pickup pipe inside = the tank has corroded through above the fuel level. The first check for = that is to remove the fuel delivery pipe from the carb, direct it into a = container and switch on the ignition. It should deliver at least one = Imperial pint per minute and in practice more than double that, in a = continuous series of pulses with minimal bubbling. If the idle drops below 600 rpm the ignition warning light does usually = come back on, although later MGB usually don't drop that low. It won't = be the alternator that caused this if there was still enough power to = crank. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 Ok, need a start on where to look here.... Was out driving the '76B = (w/'75 engine and Z-S) and was going up a slight hill - car seemed to = lose power and died after going down an exit ramp and stopping at a stop sign = (car actually shut off when I pushed out clutch approaching the stop). = Would not restart. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01D09AC5.17542650 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Do not overhaul your carbs at this stage, it may be = nothing to=20 do with them.
 
The first check should have been to look at the tach = the=20 instant this started happening, and before you did anything else like = turned=20 off, dipped the clutch etc.  If the tach has dropped to zero when = the=20 momentum of the car is still spinning the engine, then you have an = ignition LT=20 fault.  Additionally if the ignition warning light was on you have = lost the=20 supply from the ignition switch.
 
If the tach still registers then it is either HT, = fuel, or=20 possibly condenser if it has points, so check the spark while cranking = with a=20 spare plug laying on the block.
 
What do you mean by 'fuel pump is clicking = away'?  If=20 it's clicking all the time the ignition is on, and it's an SU, then = either the=20 pump is faulty or it can't pick up fuel, possibly because the pickup = pipe inside=20 the tank has corroded through above the fuel level.  The first = check for=20 that is to remove the fuel delivery pipe from the carb, direct it into a = container and switch on the ignition.  It should deliver at least = one=20 Imperial pint per minute and in practice more than double that, in a = continuous=20 series of pulses with minimal bubbling.
 
If the idle drops below 600 rpm the ignition warning = light=20 does usually come back on, although later MGB usually don't drop that = low. =20 It won't be the alternator that caused this if there was still enough = power to=20 crank.
 
PaulH.
 
----- Original Message -----
Ok, need a start on where to look here.... Was out driving the = '76B=20 (w/'75 engine and Z-S) and was going up a slight hill - car seemed to = lose=20 power
and died after = going down an=20 exit ramp and stopping at a stop sign (car actually shut off when I = pushed out=20 clutch approaching the stop). Would not
restart.
------=_NextPart_000_006B_01D09AC5.17542650-- --===============2225466334242435799== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============2225466334242435799==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 5 14:14:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F272585755 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 14:14:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from rs8.netinteraction.com (rs8.netinteraction.com [166.78.184.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EE425853BE for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 14:14:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (unknown [10.176.143.184]) by rs8.netinteraction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16493C1684 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id 898A7F44E53 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QKMp-DkrhOxW for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (97-86-98-163.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com [97.86.98.163]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id 9ABA2F44D6A for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 15:14:17 -0500 To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Buying lever shock cores FREE PICKUP... From: Peter Caldwell via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net ..... If you happen to be conveniently located along Interstate 94 or 69 on my way to and from Frankenmuth Michigan June 17, 18. Please contact me off lists. Peter C _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 5 16:00:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BA12588AA0 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:00:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B362587D74 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 15:51:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-14v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.110]) by resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id clrd1q0022PT3Qt01ls0oV; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 21:52:00 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-322v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.101]) by resomta-ch2-14v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id cls01q00E2Azwqi01ls0Lj; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 21:52:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 21:52:00 +0000 (UTC) To: Peter Caldwell , mgs@autox.team.net References: <20150605201415.898A7F44E53@mx2.netinteraction.com> Thread-Topic: Buying lever shock cores FREE PICKUP... Thread-Index: aXR/RaxB9o7eXSZftppzXbiIOPf4Cg== s=q20140121; t=1433541120; bh=PT5aWN8Cc1iastC5Brca78Qsoo2ilhKWQm4EAERmsxI=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=ts6d/0lp6hNT8ED1jRrMSM3L3oM5oi53ZipwKRCplLz8iS5v1MffQtXtLAFwBuS1a HRwPA8T6k4elWmkgL5PVy7iCtjlb1c7RRq+j3NN6pkb+NfnQgT84xFIpw0AXLW6Ulb MEaaDPKBxLZkCqUF5s+2447OYFhRzUTMG669iVlLjh7Vcuv6wNi7Rjw9LdZTd3eI7V XGazlCIv3hVoCbSS0hvLUkMnvj1999JwwxdtySO/pHdN38oOyEQtH6Iw8vufUzHPbJ YQzlJMMPT2nfOUDo5G78YAH4xdLEWLsmyBwo5N0qnFkG8O1JhvXNT2xqM/sZ/MYIED iRsg/Yu0hVUIQ== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Buying lever shock cores FREE PICKUP... From: Gordie Bird via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5097618447786263249== boundary="----=_Part_21671369_546136463.1433541120423" ------=_Part_21671369_546136463.1433541120423 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, Michigan Rowdies will be heading to Frankenmuth from most points in MI. If someone needed a couple cores taken to Frankenmuth, I'll bet it could be arranged. I know John Alexander from Ann Arbor is planning on bringing some. Gordie Bird '62 MGA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell via Mgs" To: mgs@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 4:14:17 PM Subject: [Mgs] Buying lever shock cores FREE PICKUP... ..... If you happen to be conveniently located along Interstate 94 or 69 on my way to and from Frankenmuth Michigan June 17, 18. Please contact me off lists. Peter C _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mg_garage@comcast.net ------=_Part_21671369_546136463.1433541120423 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Actually, Michigan Rowdies will be heading to Frankenmuth from mos= t points in MI.  If someone needed a couple cores taken to Frankenmuth= , I'll bet it could be arranged.  I know John Alexander from Ann Arbor= is planning on bringing some.

Gordie Bird
=
'62 MGA


From: "Peter Caldwe= ll via Mgs" <mgs@autox.team.net>
To: mgs@autox.team.net
= Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 4:14:17 PM
Subject: [Mgs] Buyin= g lever shock cores FREE PICKUP...

..... If you happen to= be conveniently located along Interstate
94  or 69 on my way to a= nd from Frankenmuth Michigan June 17, 18.

Please contact = me off lists.

Peter C

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------=_Part_21671369_546136463.1433541120423-- --===============5097618447786263249== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============5097618447786263249==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 6 11:31:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AD02588517 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 11:31:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.epbfi.com (mta3.epbfi.com [74.205.143.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB492580B19 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 11:25:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mta3.epbfi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta3.epbfi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62CF62970 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 13:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail3.epbfi.com (mail3.epbfi.com [74.205.143.166]) by mta3.epbfi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18EE62966 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 13:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 13:25:32 -0400 (EDT) To: mgs@autox.team.net Thread-Topic: 1974 MGB dashboard removal. Thread-Index: soJfnUzpYfodzyXF6DALeoCji4Ev+g== Subject: [Mgs] 1974 MGB dashboard removal. From: William Killeffer via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0303045074739414682== boundary="----=_Part_26624402_1780551520.1433611532489" ------=_Part_26624402_1780551520.1433611532489 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone, I've recently started a project on my 1974 MGB to give it a long-overdue wiring harness replacement. Taking the dashboard out has been the source of a few headaches. I know it's probably best to remove the gauges and switches, pull the choke cable, and make sure the speedo and oil pressure line are disconnected. Now, I've removed the seven bolts up at the top of the dash, but I still can't remove it. Are there other bolts that I'm missing, and does the steering column need to be lowered? If anyone could supply pictures, that would be very helpful. Once it's out, I'm going to replace the foam fascia as it's rather cracked and dingy. But good wiring is the most important thing. Thank you, -William Killeffer ------=_Part_26624402_1780551520.1433611532489 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone,
I've recently started a project on my 1974 MGB to give it a lo= ng-overdue wiring harness replacement.

Taking = the dashboard out has been the source of a few headaches. I know it's proba= bly best to remove the gauges and switches, pull the choke cable, and make = sure the speedo and oil pressure line are disconnected.

<= /div>
Now, I've removed the seven bolts up at the top of the dash, but = I still can't remove it.

Are there other bolts= that I'm missing, and does the steering column need to be lowered? If anyo= ne could supply pictures, that would be very helpful. Once it's out, I'm go= ing to replace the foam fascia as it's rather cracked and dingy. But good w= iring is the most important thing.

Thank you,<= br>
-William Killeffer
------=_Part_26624402_1780551520.1433611532489-- --===============0303045074739414682== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============0303045074739414682==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 7 10:18:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71382584BD4 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 10:18:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.ctinetworks.com (smtp1.ctinetworks.com [205.166.61.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E16C2584873 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 10:01:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DavePC (24.115.153.73.res-cmts.sth3.ptd.net [24.115.153.73]) by smtp1.ctinetworks.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 926A948D20 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 12:01:19 -0400 (EDT) To: Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 12:01:19 -0400 Importance: Normal Subject: [Mgs] 70 Fuel Pump question From: dave willner via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7585136116294822156== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01D0A119.AA50F0F0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01D0A119.AA50F0F0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I installed a new OEM SU this morning, purchased from Moss. Started = right up, pulled out of the garage and it stopped running and = won=E2=80=99t start now. I get the =E2=80=9Cticks=E2=80=9D but not sure = why no fuel, gas is in the tank? I couldn=E2=80=99t have swapped the = outlet and inlet pipes could I, I=E2=80=99m assuming that might be it? = Any other ideas before I pull things apart again would be appreciated, = thanks=20 Dave Willner Stroudsburg, PA 59 TR3A BRG 70 MGB BRG 70 BSA 441 VS ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01D0A119.AA50F0F0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So I installed a new OEM SU this morning, purchased from Moss. = Started=20 right up, pulled out of the garage and it stopped running and = won=E2=80=99t start now. I=20 get the =E2=80=9Cticks=E2=80=9D but not sure why no fuel, gas is in the = tank? I couldn=E2=80=99t have=20 swapped the outlet and inlet pipes could I, I=E2=80=99m assuming that = might be it? =20 Any other ideas before I pull things apart again would be appreciated, = thanks=20
 
Dave=20 Willner
Stroudsburg, PA
59 TR3A BRG
70 MGB BRG
70 BSA 441=20 VS
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01D0A119.AA50F0F0-- --===============7585136116294822156== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============7585136116294822156==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 7 10:47:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC642584BCC for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 10:47:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.239]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A671E258493A for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 10:41:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Zeus ([204.14.99.199]) by p3plsmtpa09-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id dUhw1q0054J6qWc01UhwK9; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:41:57 -0700 To: References: <647063620.26622710.1433611313394.JavaMail.zimbra@epbfi.com> <544775695.26624403.1433611532491.JavaMail.zimbra@epbfi.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 09:41:55 -0700 Thread-Index: AQL2wPH/x3MN5Rgtu5rp3H+0BO8zv5tU/uJQ Content-Language: en-us Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1974 MGB dashboard removal. From: dcouncill via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0730045499181015817== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01D0A106.31D9FDF0" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01D0A106.31D9FDF0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since you may not have had a reply, I can tell you what I remember from = doing my 72B about ten years ago. You took out the bolts at the top of = the dash but there are also bolts on the bottom, I think three. They are = probably Philips head screws, three of them that attach tabs from the = metal underlying dash to the frame/bar on the body. =20 David Councill 72 B 67 BGT 64 B =20 From: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William = Killeffer via Mgs Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 10:26 AM To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] 1974 MGB dashboard removal. =20 Hello everyone, =20 I've recently started a project on my 1974 MGB to give it a long-overdue = wiring harness replacement. =20 Taking the dashboard out has been the source of a few headaches. I know = it's probably best to remove the gauges and switches, pull the choke = cable, and make sure the speedo and oil pressure line are disconnected. =20 Now, I've removed the seven bolts up at the top of the dash, but I still = can't remove it. =20 Are there other bolts that I'm missing, and does the steering column = need to be lowered? If anyone could supply pictures, that would be very = helpful. Once it's out, I'm going to replace the foam fascia as it's = rather cracked and dingy. But good wiring is the most important thing. =20 Thank you, -William Killeffer ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01D0A106.31D9FDF0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Since you may not have had a reply, I can tell you what I remember = from doing my 72B about ten years ago. You took out the bolts at the top = of the dash but there are also bolts on the bottom, I think three. They = are probably Philips head screws, three of them that attach tabs from = the metal underlying dash to the frame/bar on the = body.

 

David Councill

72 B

67 BGT

64 B

 

From:= = Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William = Killeffer via Mgs
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 10:26 = AM
To: mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: [Mgs] 1974 MGB = dashboard removal.

 

Hello = everyone,

 

I've recently started a = project on my 1974 MGB to give it a long-overdue wiring harness = replacement.

 

Taking the dashboard out = has been the source of a few headaches. I know it's probably best to = remove the gauges and switches, pull the choke cable, and make sure the = speedo and oil pressure line are = disconnected.

 

Now, I've removed the = seven bolts up at the top of the dash, but I still can't remove = it.

 

Are there other bolts that = I'm missing, and does the steering column need to be lowered? If anyone = could supply pictures, that would be very helpful. Once it's out, I'm = going to replace the foam fascia as it's rather cracked and dingy. But = good wiring is the most important = thing.

 

Thank = you,

-William = Killeffer

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01D0A106.31D9FDF0-- --===============0730045499181015817== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============0730045499181015817==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 7 11:35:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D732584D54 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 11:35:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net (unknown [150.101.137.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568D52584954 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 11:04:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ppp118-210-253-194.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO ericcontantsmbp.fritz.box) ([118.210.253.194]) by ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 08 Jun 2015 02:34:30 +0930 Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 02:34:27 +0930 References: <647063620.26622710.1433611313394.JavaMail.zimbra@epbfi.com> <544775695.26624403.1433611532491.JavaMail.zimbra@epbfi.com> <000601d0a140$de368c00$9aa3a400$@karamursel.org> To: MG list Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1974 MGB dashboard removal. From: Eric via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Check out this page - there are a few tips and hints there: http://www.mgexp.com/article/dash-removal.html _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 7 12:03:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DEC2584D21 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 12:03:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com (mail-ob0-f180.google.com [209.85.214.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D39258459E for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 11:40:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obbgp2 with SMTP id gp2so61837548obb.2 for ; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:40:29 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Rg1kZvr8jsBHcO3omB5iaHyGD8TGqA4ka4GtBU5TjgQ=; b=NsZkmrP0EsOhKT153wQg+gGclCoY6RtAyCqk3zzKmRVThNpaCsLHW9mJRQPZ23ss7e sdYiVV2/1wdg6USheDSPqUrbzSw1nfkinTdrRPqTDVZ3Gm0kfZDYbhNOqoXicXEoPk1Q Lv+vDdTg1XkkK8Sy5TAeKzcR0gzU9+joJpKBSwOL1dmEQ5SAtD5Lx6h6ScRC5zW7YcTp mGPS0hkG+uhvAz/rTYLEYrydTdhYNj61Ht8wczdz2hkEugPhxMJSjvq6Anc9QbinwqKl TcmSwxoMf+ip0nHOojmO0rXotta7GwONnTnItEe5V3kMuWp6jEWqfHDpnumfI530WiFb ZluQ== Sun, 07 Jun 2015 10:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.9.37 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 10:40:28 -0700 (PDT) References: <647063620.26622710.1433611313394.JavaMail.zimbra@epbfi.com> <544775695.26624403.1433611532491.JavaMail.zimbra@epbfi.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:40:28 -0400 To: "wkilleffer@epbfi.com" Cc: "mgs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1974 MGB dashboard removal. From: Truxtun Southworth via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5699154930479767734== --001a113dde9268866c0517f105bf William, I simple trick that makes installing the new wire loom much easier. Leave a couple of inches or so of the color coded wire on each gauge and connection. Makes life so much easier too. On Saturday, June 6, 2015, William Killeffer via Mgs wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I've recently started a project on my 1974 MGB to give it a long-overdue > wiring harness replacement. > > Taking the dashboard out has been the source of a few headaches. I know > it's probably best to remove the gauges and switches, pull the choke cable, > and make sure the speedo and oil pressure line are disconnected. > > Now, I've removed the seven bolts up at the top of the dash, but I still > can't remove it. > > Are there other bolts that I'm missing, and does the steering column need > to be lowered? If anyone could supply pictures, that would be very helpful. > Once it's out, I'm going to replace the foam fascia as it's rather cracked > and dingy. But good wiring is the most important thing. > > Thank you, > -William Killeffer > --001a113dde9268866c0517f105bf Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable William,
I simple trick that=C2=A0makes installing the new wire loom=C2= =A0much easier. Leave a couple of=C2=A0inches or so of=C2=A0the color coded= =C2=A0wire on each gauge and connection.=C2=A0 Makes life so much easier to= o.


On Saturday, June 6, 2015, William Killeffer via Mgs &= lt;mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:<= br>
Hello everyon= e,

I've recently started a project on my 1= 974 MGB to give it a long-overdue wiring harness replacement.

Taking the dashboard out has been the source of a few heada= ches. I know it's probably best to remove the gauges and switches, pull= the choke cable, and make sure the speedo and oil pressure line are discon= nected.

Now, I've removed the seven bolts = up at the top of the dash, but I still can't remove it.
<= br>
Are there other bolts that I'm missing, and does the stee= ring column need to be lowered? If anyone could supply pictures, that would= be very helpful. Once it's out, I'm going to replace the foam fasc= ia as it's rather cracked and dingy. But good wiring is the most import= ant thing.

Thank you,
-William K= illeffer
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Ok, so did some = additional diagnostics today......

1) Removed= the pipe from carb to canister. No fuel flow. And when engine was running,= no change to idle speed when hose was removed.
2) I ended up putting fresh plugs in anyway, but mad= e no difference.
3) I als= o took off the distributor cap - cap was replaced when car was gone through= in August of 2013 and seems ok. There was a dusting of a yellowish powder<= /div>
  &= nbsp;  on the inside of the cap, and also in the distributor itself - = you can see it in the pictures. Not a lot. Here are pics of the cap and rot= or -



Car still will start when cold, runs very 'lum= py' and almost dies.

What should be the next steps?

Dan D
'76B
Cent= ral NJ USA


From: "'PaulHunt73' paulh= unt73@virginmedia.com [MG-MGB]" <MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com>
To: MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 3= :26 AM
Subject: Re: [M= G-MGB] No Start

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Agreed, does sound rich, which would be a cause of a = smelly=20 exhaust and not starting hot.
 
Coils can also fail when hot, but the symptom of that= would be=20 no spark.
 
It is now time to start looking at the carb, and firs= t I'd=20 take the pipe to the canister from the carb and with the ignition on see if= you=20 have fuel overflow i.e. faulty float valve or sunk float.
 
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If t= hey are black, that mean=20 that the car is running too rich. If they get too black, they will not fi= re=20 properly.


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Hi. I have a MGA Mk II deluxe, but either it came with = MkII brakes, or somebody replaced the Twin Cam/MkII deluxe caliper with = a MkII caliper. I noticed in the Moss catalog that no replacement is = available for the MkII deluxe caliper. Is it likely that the deluxe came = out with just regular MkII calipers to begin with? In looking at my = calipers, rotors and pads it appears that the front brakes haven’t = been working in a while: the pads don’t look they have seen any = action, the rotors are a little rusty with virtually no wear down from = the extreme outer  section of the rotor, the caliper pistons look = encrusted as they sit at the caliper, and there are spider webs and = light debris that I thought would have been burnt off if the pistons = were making contact upon pressure of the brakes.

 

If this is = true, I doubt that I will be able to break the pistons free and will = have to order complete new calipers.

 

Any = thoughts??

 

TIA,

 

Clayton =

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Hi. In disassembling my front suspension, I ran across = something for which the manual has no input other to insert the distance = piece which is the long cylindrical one end chamfered piece between the = inner and outer bearings. When all is assembled, should the distance = piece be a close fit between the two bearing or is there supposed to be = lots of slack? I ask because one assembly came off with lots of = longitudinal movement for the distance piece, while the other side = disassembled leaving the inner bearing on the spindle and the distance = piece coming out of the hub. I am assuming that the distance is supposed = to be a tight fit, and that the hub which came off with bearings intact, = slipped one of the bearings enough for the distance piece to bounce = around inside.

 

TIA,

 

Clayton

------=_NextPart_000_014A_01D0A138.3473F700-- --===============5076895735075929856== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============5076895735075929856==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 7 17:07:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2BA258457B for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 17:07:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA3D2584496 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 16:56:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Aragorn ([205.197.253.163]) by p3plsmtpa09-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id dawt1q00G3YHaqt01awuq9; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 15:56:54 -0700 To: "'Gordie Bird'" References: <012b01d0a16b$8d324940$a796dbc0$@godblessthe.us> <83011015.22495299.1433715971432.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 15:56:53 -0700 Thread-Index: AQEHndHEQIAEHcpjRipZeeRl64kOGwJXceOKnyDx0FA= Content-Language: en-us Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] MkII deluxe brake components From: Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0357150349650300290== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014F_01D0A13A.934A0060" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_014F_01D0A13A.934A0060 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Gordie. I thought all deluxes came front and back too, but this = one is either mis-badged (it has the deluxe script on the boot), been = modified by somebody, or is a transition car. It just occurred to me = that I think I read somewhere that you can take a 1600 and make it a = deluxe with a kit. I think. But it definitely doesn=E2=80=99t have the = Dunlop front brakes with the square and easily removed pads; they are = the regular pads and calipers of a 1600. =20 Clayton =20 From: Gordie Bird [mailto:mg_garage@comcast.net]=20 Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 3:26 PM To: crk@godblessthe.us Subject: Re: [Mgs] MkII deluxe brake components =20 what are the rear brakes? Never heard of a deluxe with anything other = than dunlop disk brakes all around. Of course, that does not mean much. Look up Autosport in Bloomington, Indiana and ask for Tucker (Madawick), = the owner. He has a deluxe and could probably answer your question. Or, if you would like, come to Frankenmuth, MI next week and talk to him = (and a couple hundred other MGA enthusiasts) at NAMGAR GT 40. He will have his deluxe with him. =20 Good luck, Gordie '62 MGA =20 =20 _____ =20 From: "Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs"

Thanks Gordie. I thought = all deluxes came front and back too, but this one is either mis-badged = (it has the deluxe script on the boot), been modified by somebody, or is = a transition car. It just occurred to me that I think I read somewhere = that you can take a 1600 and make it a deluxe with a kit. I think. But = it definitely doesn=E2=80=99t have the Dunlop front brakes with the = square and easily removed pads; they are the regular pads and calipers = of a 1600.

 

Clayton

 

From: Gordie Bird = [mailto:mg_garage@comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 = 3:26 PM
To: crk@godblessthe.us
Subject: Re: [Mgs] = MkII deluxe brake components

 

what are the rear = brakes?  Never heard of a deluxe with anything other than dunlop = disk brakes all around.  Of course, that does not mean = much.

Look up Autosport = in Bloomington, Indiana and ask for Tucker (Madawick), the owner.  = He has a deluxe and could probably answer your = question.

Or, if you would = like, come to Frankenmuth, MI next week and talk to him (and a couple = hundred other MGA enthusiasts) at NAMGAR GT = 40.

He will have his = deluxe with him.

 

Good = luck,

Gordie

'62 = MGA

 

 


From: = "Clayton = Kirkwood via Mgs" <mgs@autox.team.net>
To: = mgs@autox.team.net
Sent: = Sunday, June 7, 2015 5:47:28 PM
Subject: [Mgs] MkII deluxe = brake components

 

Hi. I = have a MGA Mk II deluxe, but either it came with MkII brakes, or = somebody replaced the Twin Cam/MkII deluxe caliper with a MkII caliper. = I noticed in the Moss catalog that no replacement is available for the = MkII deluxe caliper. Is it likely that the deluxe came out with just = regular MkII calipers to begin with? In looking at my calipers, rotors = and pads it appears that the front brakes haven=E2=80=99t been working = in a while: the pads don=E2=80=99t look they have seen any action, the = rotors are a little rusty with virtually no wear down from the extreme = outer  section of the rotor, the caliper pistons look encrusted as = they sit at the caliper, and there are spider webs and light debris that = I thought would have been burnt off if the pistons were making contact = upon pressure of the brakes.

 

If this is true, I doubt = that I will be able to break the pistons free and will have to order = complete new calipers.

 

Any = thoughts??

 

TIA,

 

Clayton =


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------=_NextPart_000_014F_01D0A13A.934A0060-- --===============0357150349650300290== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============0357150349650300290==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 7 20:32:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6372584962 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 20:32:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5BF258483C for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2015 20:23:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Aragorn ([205.197.253.163]) by p3plsmtpa11-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id dePY1q0013YHaqt01ePYyp; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 19:23:33 -0700 To: References: <014901d0a172$e0d2cf00$a2786d00$@godblessthe.us> <1A625453-98B0-4BC3-9EFF-DED4C7739F52@ur.rochester.edu> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:23:31 -0700 Thread-Index: AQH0aIVqcSbqUZlDQzbB5Tu3FRzPiAHvaM1xnUrXaNA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga MkII deluxe front wheel spindle distance piece From: Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============4931779094112618110== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0172_01D0A157.71518920" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01D0A157.71518920 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is kind of what I thought. So how do I know which bearing needs to move so that they are in this full contact position? Is this a press job, or gentle hammer movement? TIA, Clayton From: Osborne, Paul [mailto:paul@ece.rochester.edu] Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:41 PM To: crk@godblessthe.us Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga MkII deluxe front wheel spindle distance piece the per pose of the distance piece is to lock if you will the inter and outer bearings together on the shaft. This makes them stronger as unit and does not introduce and side thrust on the bearings. There should be a few spacer washers to give the hub and end float of a few thousands. paul Paul Osborne Department of Electrical and Computer Eng. University of Rochester 201 Hopeman Building RC Rochester NY 14627 585-275-5226 On Jun 7, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_donate.html &d=AwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=ZxBBknpbf-rQERA_U4 xdKMowIRW2m8bzayguRQBnJCk&m=57_JFo1GR8aFWpgRpvavUWkjCfZdj_F2_sTEnwLSgF8&s=ti Aa6ptmfGJpK5L7U8VtelNXQeEkmrCfedmNwVeufnQ&e= Archive: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_archive&d=A wICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=ZxBBknpbf-rQERA_U4xdKM owIRW2m8bzayguRQBnJCk&m=57_JFo1GR8aFWpgRpvavUWkjCfZdj_F2_sTEnwLSgF8&s=Rhl7xG _8BhIBvnAB5OreyCoIPTK9qdxkGHK9qeYbNds&e= Forums: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_forums&d=Aw ICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=ZxBBknpbf-rQERA_U4xdKMo wIRW2m8bzayguRQBnJCk&m=57_JFo1GR8aFWpgRpvavUWkjCfZdj_F2_sTEnwLSgF8&s=u9Qj7mn fr6OgZlGN5QQRsSl3TjnX7i9mFqxHi6tEXgM&e= Unsubscribe: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_mailman_o ptions_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&d=AwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl 9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=ZxBBknpbf-rQERA_U4xdKMowIRW2m8bzayguRQBnJCk&m=57_JFo1GR8aFW pgRpvavUWkjCfZdj_F2_sTEnwLSgF8&s=WWDIEi6HQG47Pqst_SJXrB2WSmbCk5t2n3JkPJWqgAg &e= ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01D0A157.71518920 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That is kind of what I thought. So how do I know which bearing needs to = move so that they are in this full contact position? Is this a press = job, or gentle hammer movement?

TIA,

 

Clayton

 

From:<= /b> = Osborne, Paul [mailto:paul@ece.rochester.edu]
Sent: Sunday, = June 07, 2015 5:41 PM
To: = crk@godblessthe.us
Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga MkII deluxe front = wheel spindle distance piece

 

the per pose =  of the distance piece is to lock if you will the inter and outer = bearings together on the shaft. This makes them stronger as unit and = does not introduce and side thrust on the bearings.  There should = be a few spacer washers to give the hub and end float of a few = thousands. 

 

paul

 

 

Paul Osborne
Department of = Electrical and Computer Eng.
University of Rochester 
201 Hopeman Building RC
Rochester NY 14627
585-275-5226

 

 

 

On = Jun 7, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> = wrote:



Hi. In = disassembling my front suspension, I ran across something for which the = manual has no input other to insert the distance piece which is the long = cylindrical one end chamfered piece between the inner and outer = bearings. When all is assembled, should the distance piece be a close = fit between the two bearing or is there supposed to be lots of slack? I = ask because one assembly came off with lots of longitudinal movement for = the distance piece, while the other side disassembled leaving the inner = bearing on the spindle and the distance piece coming out of the hub. I = am assuming that the distance is supposed to be a tight fit, and that = the hub which came off with bearings intact, slipped one of the bearings = enough for the distance piece to bounce around = inside.

 

TIA,

 

Clayton<= /o:p>

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Well apparently I don’t have a MkII Deluxe after = all. Just a plain ol’ simple MkII. Oh well. I’ll keep = it:<))

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Two weeks ago, I was near completion of a rebuild of my 64B 3-mai= n engine. But I needed to replace the oil cooler that had developed a crack= on its mounting bracket. I located another cooler from the list and instal= led it last  week. Then it was time to start the engine - but first I = had to get the oil flowing by turning the engine with the starter. I had in= sured that the pump was primed, and both the filter and cooler were filled = with oil when I installed them to speed the process up. But after cranking = for what seemed an excessive period of time with no oil pressure, I started= to worry. I could see oil was moving because the level in the sump had dec= reased a far bit but nothing was coming out of the oil pressure hose. So I = stopped for the day/weekend. Research on the Internet indicated that in fac= t, the process can be very slow getting the oil through so I resumed the pr= ocess again last Saturday. Another 30 seconds or so of cranking and I got o= il pressure. Then it was time to hook up the ignition system and start it -= as soon as I turned the key, it fired right up, idling at 60 psi. I let it= run for 20 minutes at 2000 rpm to seat the tappets and had to tighten a fe= w fittings (had slight leak from temp sender and slight seep on oil cooler = fitting). So its close to returning to the road - just need a few short tes= t drives around the neighborhood but hopefully the car will be back on the = Washington State University campus later this week after almost a year abse= nce. (I drove the 72B in today, it will be about 90 F on the top down cruis= e home this afternoon)

David Councill
64 B
67 BGT
72 B
--===============6953862706633796798== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============6953862706633796798==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 8 09:33:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F182584DC8 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:33:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2AA2584AF6 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:24:03 -0600 (MDT) t=1433777047; bh=yxRp3EwB8rCUeMulSZorLmf7Fkt+652jh74zlzX8dvQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=QQbGXKtfuphMD4ULrCvXDq/ojF97PUJbK1jVUDS/zVMDihiIN3DOr0/Mp2rdLY5A/DjbD6Efj7OniPwGKGEQrOg/5MApoUJuE19TzTSgK5cUCHytP6SwpNMA8mqel+O4U6T18y7dZ1q6uKtgR8qzXJtgANkkySYHfFlaQaKFR5XXUc4F4K/e1G8/iLenn5eAZibVfoqrkFTJo6lx9hmE4aTFnA1WHjqJIl5qMdpRiGrMWoi7NS+vVu8ruu74C44OD5RC10M0lTR9LU2utR6XxrFPcMF9q57B8a6pGvsZuodiqCRqHU8Syxz/xhF6UPh+MTBX3Nfrw/m2eCeeEs87Cw== Received: from [66.196.81.172] by nm24.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2015 15:24:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.227] by tm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2015 15:24:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1036.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jun 2015 15:24:07 -0000 c2UAaL1VTCGywGEV8_UbMYzlqneiBaQQVFYH7NAJb51dRapS46P6uAMXAjKvoNrO3BM5hdkcLfXV CkfCi0N26uFW3SWcEIR493Pnp5gZWs0oJGejsrQhvZ41tQ6IHxk1hb3M8EiyAdSNBQAES1j4yre8 .usY8QCbinM.w5l6nA9aNWaLilGVogKTz0dzpKPEsJGCGmmDw.nLIa13IQbZmZ2yX7mi3MLO6ZnQ VAcwrKA7IZc86cUOpP3G0fpxTW.3gd9KK9nDVrznmoer5kKkC7x4rkN90wurzZBA7YyHHOyUJI.H bSbC04REf6DnTRIYcV8aZQSdNo6BToIhmSg.6wE7.m1wUkcx9gsuiodxgbqXYir2VyWhF6Q5BDmW jnuFWUY_Y.IR3PSIY2H9iHMGRLbrBw6rsmuZ4a7T56qVWynIggaFKBQnOayXBD3gvXoKGoLggSbl 1mWPGqWWUvZsXAg-- Received: by 66.196.80.151; Mon, 08 Jun 2015 15:24:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 15:24:06 +0000 (UTC) To: "dcouncill@karamursel.org" , Barrie via , "MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com" References: <20150608080958.5cece6eaa82752075bda15df45f90bd6.c78050ebaf.wbe@email06.secureserver.net> Subject: Re: [Mgs] 64B progress From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3887029077458130075== boundary="----=_Part_8658126_1247619961.1433777046509" ------=_Part_8658126_1247619961.1433777046509 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's great, David! I wish I could get my '76 running again so I could get back to work on the = '65.... Hopefully this week I'll have diagnosed it. Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA From: dcouncill--- via Mgs To: Barrie via ; MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Monday, June 8, 2015 11:09 AM Subject: [Mgs] 64B progress =20 Two weeks ago, I was near completion of a rebuild of my 64B 3-main engine. = But I needed to replace the oil cooler that had developed a crack on its mo= unting bracket. I located another cooler from the list and installed it las= t=C2=A0 week. Then it was time to start the engine - but first I had to get= the oil flowing by turning the engine with the starter. I had insured that= the pump was primed, and both the filter and cooler were filled with oil w= hen I installed them to speed the process up. But after cranking for what s= eemed an excessive period of time with no oil pressure, I started to worry.= I could see oil was moving because the level in the sump had decreased a f= ar bit but nothing was coming out of the oil pressure hose. So I stopped fo= r the day/weekend. Research on the Internet indicated that in fact, the pro= cess can be very slow getting the oil through so I resumed the process agai= n last Saturday. Another 30 seconds or so of cranking and I got oil pressur= e. Then it was time to hook up the ignition system and start it - as soon a= s I turned the key, it fired right up, idling at 60 psi. I let it run for 2= 0 minutes at 2000 rpm to seat the tappets and had to tighten a few fittings= (had slight leak from temp sender and slight seep on oil cooler fitting). = So its close to returning to the road - just need a few short test drives a= round the neighborhood but hopefully the car will be back on the Washington= State University campus later this week after almost a year absence. (I dr= ove the 72B in today, it will be about 90 F on the top down cruise home thi= s afternoon) David Councill64 B67 BGT72 B _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com ------=_Part_8658126_1247619961.1433777046509 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's great, Da= vid!

I wish I could get my '76 ru= nning again so I could get back to work on the '65.... Hopefully this week = I'll have diagnosed it.

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA

From: dcouncill--- via M= gs <mgs@autox.team.net>
To:= Barrie via <mgs@autox.team.net>; MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com <= br> Sent: Monday, June 8, = 2015 11:09 AM
Subject:= [Mgs] 64B progress

Two weeks ago, I was near completion = of a rebuild of my 64B 3-main engine. But I needed to replace the oil coole= r that had developed a crack on its mounting bracket. I located another coo= ler from the list and installed it last  week. Then it was time to sta= rt the engine - but first I had to get the oil flowing by turning the engin= e with the starter. I had insured that the pump was primed, and both the fi= lter and cooler were filled with oil when I installed them to speed the pro= cess up. But after cranking for what seemed an excessive period of time wit= h no oil pressure, I started to worry. I could see oil was moving because t= he level in the sump had decreased a far bit but nothing was coming out of = the oil pressure hose. So I stopped for the day/weekend. Research on the In= ternet indicated that in fact, the process can be very slow getting the oil= through so I resumed the process again last Saturday. Another 30 seconds o= r so of cranking and I got oil pressure. Then it was time to hook up the ig= nition system and start it - as soon as I turned the key, it fired right up= , idling at 60 psi. I let it run for 20 minutes at 2000 rpm to seat the tap= pets and had to tighten a few fittings (had slight leak from temp sender an= d slight seep on oil cooler fitting). So its close to returning to the road= - just need a few short test drives around the neighborhood but hopefully = the car will be back on the Washington State University campus later this w= eek after almost a year absence. (I drove the 72B in today, it will be abou= t 90 F on the top down cruise home this afternoon)

David Councill
64 B
67 BGT
72 B
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------=_Part_8658126_1247619961.1433777046509-- --===============3887029077458130075== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============3887029077458130075==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 8 13:51:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDD82584A68 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 13:51:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD0425846FB for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 13:40:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Aragorn ([205.197.253.163]) by p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id dvg91q00C3YHaqt01vg9c8; Mon, 08 Jun 2015 12:40:10 -0700 To: References: <012b01d0a16b$8d324940$a796dbc0$@godblessthe.us> <83011015.22495299.1433715971432.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <014e01d0a175$3fa751c0$bef5f540$@godblessthe.us> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 12:40:08 -0700 Thread-Index: AQEHndHEQIAEHcpjRipZeeRl64kOGwJXceOKAeZb5EifExrggA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Mgs] MkII deluxe brake components From: Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============3338398565058926712== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0260_01D0A1E8.415EC980" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0260_01D0A1E8.415EC980 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gosh, I feel like Obama: I can say anything as if were true. But that = doesn=E2=80=99t make it so. Case in point, I don=E2=80=99t have a deluxe = badge, nobody modified it, nor is it a transition car. It is strictly a = MkII. My mistake. crk =20 From: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Clayton = Kirkwood via Mgs Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 3:57 PM To: 'Gordie Bird' Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] MkII deluxe brake components =20 Thanks Gordie. I thought all deluxes came front and back too, but this = one is either mis-badged (it has the deluxe script on the boot), been = modified by somebody, or is a transition car. It just occurred to me = that I think I read somewhere that you can take a 1600 and make it a = deluxe with a kit. I think. But it definitely doesn=E2=80=99t have the = Dunlop front brakes with the square and easily removed pads; they are = the regular pads and calipers of a 1600. =20 Clayton =20 From: Gordie Bird [mailto:mg_garage@comcast.net]=20 Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] MkII deluxe brake components =20 what are the rear brakes? Never heard of a deluxe with anything other = than dunlop disk brakes all around. Of course, that does not mean much. Look up Autosport in Bloomington, Indiana and ask for Tucker (Madawick), = the owner. He has a deluxe and could probably answer your question. Or, if you would like, come to Frankenmuth, MI next week and talk to him = (and a couple hundred other MGA enthusiasts) at NAMGAR GT 40. He will have his deluxe with him. =20 Good luck, Gordie '62 MGA =20 =20 _____ =20 From: "Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs"

Gosh, I feel like Obama: = I can say anything as if were=C2=A0 true. But that doesn=E2=80=99t make = it so. Case in point, I don=E2=80=99t have a deluxe badge, nobody = modified it, nor is it a transition car. It is strictly a MkII. My = mistake.

crk

 

From: Mgs = [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Clayton Kirkwood = via Mgs
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 3:57 PM
To: = 'Gordie Bird'
Cc: mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: = [Mgs] MkII deluxe brake components

 

Thanks Gordie. I thought all deluxes came front = and back too, but this one is either mis-badged (it has the deluxe = script on the boot), been modified by somebody, or is a transition car. = It just occurred to me that I think I read somewhere that you can take a = 1600 and make it a deluxe with a kit. I think. But it definitely = doesn=E2=80=99t have the Dunlop front brakes with the square and easily = removed pads; they are the regular pads and calipers of a = 1600.

 

Clayton

 

From: Gordie Bird [mailto:mg_garage@comcast.net] =
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 3:26 PM
To: crk@godblessthe.us
Subject:<= /b> Re: [Mgs] MkII deluxe brake components

 

what are the rear = brakes?  Never heard of a deluxe with anything other than dunlop = disk brakes all around.  Of course, that does not mean = much.

Look up Autosport = in Bloomington, Indiana and ask for Tucker (Madawick), the owner.  = He has a deluxe and could probably answer your = question.

Or, if you would = like, come to Frankenmuth, MI next week and talk to him (and a couple = hundred other MGA enthusiasts) at NAMGAR GT = 40.

He will have his = deluxe with him.

 

Good = luck,

Gordie

'62 = MGA

 

 


From: = "Clayton = Kirkwood via Mgs" <mgs@autox.team.net>
To: = mgs@autox.team.net
Sent: = Sunday, June 7, 2015 5:47:28 PM
Subject: [Mgs] MkII deluxe = brake components

 

Hi. I = have a MGA Mk II deluxe, but either it came with MkII brakes, or = somebody replaced the Twin Cam/MkII deluxe caliper with a MkII caliper. = I noticed in the Moss catalog that no replacement is available for the = MkII deluxe caliper. Is it likely that the deluxe came out with just = regular MkII calipers to begin with? In looking at my calipers, rotors = and pads it appears that the front brakes haven=E2=80=99t been working = in a while: the pads don=E2=80=99t look they have seen any action, the = rotors are a little rusty with virtually no wear down from the extreme = outer  section of the rotor, the caliper pistons look encrusted as = they sit at the caliper, and there are spider webs and light debris that = I thought would have been burnt off if the pistons were making contact = upon pressure of the brakes.

 

If this is true, I doubt = that I will be able to break the pistons free and will have to order = complete new calipers.

 

Any = thoughts??

 

TIA,

 

Clayton =


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If it's like the MGB you put selective shims between = the outer=20 bearing and the distance piece so that when the nut is tightened to = between 40=20 and 70 ft lb there is .002" to .004" free play in the bearings.  = This may=20 help - but I emphasise it is for the MGB http://w= ww.mgb-stuff.org.uk/suspensiontext.htm#endfloat
 
PaulH, 
----- Original Message -----
 

That=20 is kind of what I thought. So how do I know which bearing needs to = move so=20 that they are in this full contact position? Is this a press job, or = gentle=20 hammer = movement?

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If the pump is continually chattering then fuel = isn't getting=20 through to fill the float chamber, shut the float valves, and pressurise = the=20 system to shut off the pump.  But if you only get the occasional = tick as=20 normal then something else is wrong.
 
First take a fuel delivery pipe off a carb, direct = it into a=20 container, and switch on the ignition.  It should deliver at least = one=20 Imperial pint per minute and in practice more than double that, in a = continual=20 series of pulses with minimal bubbling.
 
That will tell you whether you need to go back = towards the=20 pump etc., or forwards to the carbs etc.
 
PaulH.
----- Original Message -----
So I installed a new OEM SU this morning, purchased from Moss. = Started=20 right up, pulled out of the garage and it stopped running and = won=E2=80=99t start now.=20 I get the =E2=80=9Cticks=E2=80=9D but not sure why no fuel, gas is in = the=20 tank?
------=_NextPart_000_041E_01D0A36B.ADC28920-- --===============1279523942589913173== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============1279523942589913173==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 10 07:06:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2CA25863F8 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 07:06:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net (unknown [69.252.207.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1692580728 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 07:05:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.105]) by resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id ed4M1q0042GyhjZ01d4r8R; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:04:51 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-322v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.101]) by resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id ed4r1q00N2Azwqi01d4rzi; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:04:51 +0000 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:04:51 +0000 (UTC) To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <014901d0a172$e0d2cf00$a2786d00$@godblessthe.us> <1A625453-98B0-4BC3-9EFF-DED4C7739F52@ur.rochester.edu> <017101d0a192$1dae1730$590a4590$@godblessthe.us> <7237211B5E1A47119CEB048FE27DCDF0@paul> Thread-Topic: mga MkII deluxe front wheel spindle distance piece Thread-Index: pbjkiWAHgv2Sa4xInEKsRnpejHl2fA== s=q20140121; t=1433941491; bh=zpyZlav+Bwk89zgpc+ETlTsm9/kos3ep7XVaPIfqNqk=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Sp5yZLisuStWBD7JX30et30aueEPOdReQ92LAxOPVgL/ObtptGtshnIDG+mSsLgDY Lp6FowH9nuC+HmndCwTzG9XfW8cZtcJGf3Lk9/I1m+w3mzOXGgenYzDVgOwDOA3n7W ZiluwWVxDud+oo3MF233IO9W7mvxz4a+8uIKtbP6oup+WiQ5IXKpKSMZa02hFoR4tw evDOCnAKS9ItbVffANiC7q7ptLePoPFQYyrN2k7vAaAAt35vFKoeHAypBA6amT86nZ QSk0weAvqd8SfgEbSLqW/X/ZTBWPB24usYdscsb7u5kR04o0NHKuBfsbkBEmFcbaZD 0sjW9w9252CQg== Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga MkII deluxe front wheel spindle distance piece From: Gordie Bird via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0420668357588285024== boundary="----=_Part_24106315_2021980371.1433941491119" ------=_Part_24106315_2021980371.1433941491119 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The MGA does not use shims like the MGB ----- Original Message ----- From: "PaulHunt73 via Mgs" To: crk@godblessthe.us, mgs@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:55:52 AM Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga MkII deluxe front wheel spindle distance piece If it's like the MGB you put selective shims between the outer bearing and the distance piece so that when the nut is tightened to between 40 and 70 ft lb there is .002" to .004" free play in the bearings. This may help - but I emphasise it is for the MGB http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/suspensiontext.htm#endfloat PaulH, ----- Original Message ----- That is kind of what I thought. So how do I know which bearing needs to move so that they are in this full contact position? Is this a press job, or gentle hammer movement? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mg_garage@comcast.net ------=_Part_24106315_2021980371.1433941491119 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The MGA does not use shims like the MGB


From: "PaulHunt73 via Mgs" <mgs@autox.team.net>
To: crk@godblessthe.us, mgs@autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:55:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] mga MkII deluxe front wheel spindle distance piece

If it's like the MGB you put selective shims between the outer bearing and the distance piece so that when the nut is tightened to between 40 and 70 ft lb there is .002" to .004" free play in the bearings.  This may help - but I emphasise it is for the MGB http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/suspensiontext.htm#endfloat
 
PaulH, 
----- Original Message -----
 

That is kind of what I thought. So how do I know which bearing needs to move so that they are in this full contact position? Is this a press job, or gentle hammer movement?


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This is quite likely an ongoing quality problem hanging around for several years. When originally discovered, Burlen refused to acknowledge any problem and would not fix it See here: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/faulty/ft037.htm On 6/7/2015, dave willner wrote: >So I installed a new OEM SU this morning, purchased from Moss. >Started right up, pulled out of the garage and it stopped running >and won't start now. I get the ticks but not sure why no fuel, gas >is in the tank? I couldn't have swapped the outlet and inlet pipes >could I, I'm assuming that might be it? Any other ideas before I >pull things apart again would be appreciated, thanks >.... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 12 05:54:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C5D2587723 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 05:54:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F411325803FD for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 05:54:44 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=sprynet.com; b=L10g+W72d/ixs+kAfFgi2ZFbzzcn58c4BH592hYqSTX9D2fZHtSjM6ybmP/36OyN; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [70.127.147.22] (helo=nHP) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3NXu-0005NB-8F for mgs@autox.team.net; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 07:54:50 -0400 To: "MG Digest" Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 07:54:49 -0400 Thread-Index: AdClBpWA16k+3MS2TfOE/mP6r6Jh2w== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Mgs] MGB Top Bows Available From: Norm via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3618654639888408466== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01D0A4E5.10B77930" Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01D0A4E5.10B77930 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If anyone needs a good pair of stow-away top bows, there is a pair on eBay - # 281720175719 I used them on my '66 Race car/daily driver because of the roll bar. Fold-down top wouldn't clear the bar. Stow-away had the bar neatly between the bows. Worked well. These bars are complete with snaps, were sanded and painted. And, are in good condition. More photos available if wanted. If you don't need them, please tell your friends who might. Thanks. Garage cleaning still going on. Cheers, Norm ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01D0A4E5.10B77930 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If anyone needs a good pair of stow-away top bows, = there is a pair on eBay - # 281720175719

 

I used them = on my '66 Race car/daily driver because of the roll bar.  Fold-down top wouldn't clear = the bar.  Stow-away had the = bar neatly between the bows.  = Worked well.

 

These bars = are complete with snaps, were sanded and painted.  And, are in good = condition.  More photos = available if wanted.

 

If you don't = need them, please tell your friends who might.

 

Thanks.

 

Garage = cleaning still going on.

 

Cheers,

 

Norm

------=_NextPart_000_0015_01D0A4E5.10B77930-- --===============3618654639888408466== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============3618654639888408466==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 14 12:30:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F16F25853B4 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:30:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5592585515 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:29:49 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=JqdWmajBRmul+FNLWbabe5h1sZ3rY46LUqSVcjqWMkCh1iFQQbRoqwebgkadY+n2; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [70.127.147.22] (helo=nHP) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4CfM-0005dy-CY for mgs@autox.team.net; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:29:56 -0400 To: "MG Digest" Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:29:55 -0400 Thread-Index: AdCm0ByS1EzA65gMQp6N7++ELdnqNw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Mgs] Eared Knock Offs FS From: Norm Sippel via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5991954765624821908== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007D_01D0A6AE.95D4B590" Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007D_01D0A6AE.95D4B590 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks, Sorry to bomb the List again. But, I keep finding Spridget & MGB stuff in my garage. The latest is the set of four eared Knock Offs from my '66 MGB. The set on the car were pretty beaten up from years of K.O. hammering. So, when I was prepping to show the car on occasion, I bought a new set, likely from Moss. Can't be sure as I always bought my Turner & MGB parts through Bob at Brit Tex in New Hampshire. And, he's a Moss dealer. In any case, I put these K.O.s on eBay yesterday. They are in really good condition, but will surely sell for less than what Moss gets for new ones. So, if you need nearly-new K.O.s, check out item # 281722104944. As you may know, they also fit some Austin-Healeys, Sprites, and Triumphs. Cheers, Norm ------=_NextPart_000_007D_01D0A6AE.95D4B590 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi folks,

 

Sorry to = bomb the List again.  But, = I keep finding Spridget & MGB stuff in my garage.  The latest is the set of four = eared Knock Offs from my '66 MGB.  = The set on the car were pretty beaten up from years of K.O. = hammering.  So, when I was = prepping to show the car on occasion, I bought a new set, likely from = Moss.  Can't be sure as I = always bought my Turner & MGB parts through Bob at Brit Tex in New = Hampshire.  And, he's a = Moss dealer.

 

In any case, I put these K.O.s on eBay yesterday.  They are in really good = condition, but will surely sell for less than what Moss gets for new = ones.  So, if you need = nearly-new K.O.s, check out item # 281722104944.  = As you may know, they also fit some Austin-Healeys, Sprites, and = Triumphs.

 

Cheers,

 

Norm

 

------=_NextPart_000_007D_01D0A6AE.95D4B590-- --===============5991954765624821908== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============5991954765624821908==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 14 12:31:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8874C2585584 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:31:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2C72585528 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 12:30:54 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=sprynet.com; b=gMrQ5vPY0tAMgplZAZDHP/soBl7kkCTASNE4SLoMQaeRfrm3fe5UxDKZBBI3l8ro; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [70.127.147.22] (helo=nHP) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4CgP-0000dv-3R for mgs@autox.team.net; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:31:01 -0400 To: "MG Digest" Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:31:00 -0400 Thread-Index: AdCm0ELkoXCmiiraS9OYknXbNduAGQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Mgs] Eared Knock Offs FS From: Norm via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4033220849493888723== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0082_01D0A6AE.BC5C24A0" Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01D0A6AE.BC5C24A0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks, Sorry to bomb the List again. But, I keep finding Spridget & MGB stuff in my garage. The latest is the set of four winged Knock Offs from my '66 MGB. The set on the car were pretty beaten up from years of K.O. hammering. So, when I was prepping to show the car on occasion, I bought a new set, likely from Moss. Can't be sure as I always bought my Turner & MGB parts through Bob at Brit Tex in New Hampshire. And, he's a Moss dealer. In any case, I put these K.O.s on eBay yesterday. They are in really good condition, but will surely sell for less than what Moss gets for new ones. So, if you need nearly-new K.O.s, check out item # 281722104944. As you may know, they also fit some Austin-Healeys, Sprites, and Triumphs. Cheers, Norm ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01D0A6AE.BC5C24A0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi folks,

 

Sorry to = bomb the List again.  But, = I keep finding Spridget & MGB stuff in my garage.  The latest is the set of four = winged Knock Offs from my '66 MGB.  The set on the car were pretty = beaten up from years of K.O. hammering.  So, when I was prepping to show = the car on occasion, I bought a new set, likely from Moss.  Can't be sure as I always = bought my Turner & MGB parts through Bob at Brit Tex in New = Hampshire.  And, he's a = Moss dealer.

 

In any case, I put these K.O.s on eBay yesterday.  They are in really good = condition, but will surely sell for less than what Moss gets for new = ones.  So, if you need = nearly-new K.O.s, check out item # 281722104944.  = As you may know, they also fit some Austin-Healeys, Sprites, and = Triumphs.

 

Cheers,

 

Norm

 

------=_NextPart_000_0082_01D0A6AE.BC5C24A0-- --===============4033220849493888723== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============4033220849493888723==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 16 17:23:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFEE25863F8 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:23:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa12-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa12-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.234]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE842584BC9 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:22:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Aragorn ([205.197.253.163]) by p3plsmtpa12-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id hBNt1q00Q3YHaqt01BNuGa; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:22:54 -0700 To: Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:22:51 -0700 Thread-Index: AdCoiwrVFOeV3wnxTgORf2YibO1S5g== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Mgs] oil pressure sender From: Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============4443509521749791696== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0384_01D0A850.B1B00FA0" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0384_01D0A850.B1B00FA0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anybody know if there are mga oil pressure sender and screw-on on the back of the gauge sources? If I can source one, I finally have a solution for my 59 Landrover. TIA, Clayton ------=_NextPart_000_0384_01D0A850.B1B00FA0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does anybody know if there are mga oil pressure sender = and screw-on on the back of the gauge sources? If I can source one, I = finally have a solution for my 59 Landrover.

 

TIA,

 

Clayton

------=_NextPart_000_0384_01D0A850.B1B00FA0-- --===============4443509521749791696== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============4443509521749791696==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 16 21:36:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B192587793 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:36:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp650.redcondor.net (smtp650.redcondor.net [208.80.206.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363582586F8D for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:31:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.228.191]) by smtp650.redcondor.net ({9ef01f99-b982-4add-83fd-b7c41c74273c}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20150617033100422_0650; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 03:31:00 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by southslope.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.2) with ESMTPA id 945227382; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:30:05 -0500 To: , References: <038301d0a88b$5e0ee7a0$1a2cb6e0$@godblessthe.us> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:29:54 -0500 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [Mgs] oil pressure sender From: Ron Sanborn via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2600236749855869706== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01D0A883.F7B21650" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01D0A883.F7B21650 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MGA had a mechanical (direct pressure) combination oil/ water temp = gauge. An oil flex line connected between the engine and a fitting , a = hard line connected from the fitting to the gauge (screw on). If you are looking for a single oil gauge you may have to go with = aftermarket. If you need an electrical sending unit go MGB. Moss Motors is good source. Ron From: Clayton Kirkwood via Mgs=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:22 PM To: mgs@autox.team.net=20 Subject: [Mgs] oil pressure sender Does anybody know if there are mga oil pressure sender and screw-on on = the back of the gauge sources? If I can source one, I finally have a = solution for my 59 Landrover.=20 =20 TIA, =20 Clayton -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/riverside@southslope.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5961 / Virus Database: 4365/10034 - Release Date: = 06/17/15 ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01D0A883.F7B21650 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MGA had a mechanical (direct pressure) combination oil/ water temp = gauge.=20 An oil flex line connected between the engine and a fitting , a hard = line=20 connected from the fitting to the gauge (screw on).
If you are looking for a single oil gauge you may have to go with=20 aftermarket.  If you need an electrical sending unit go MGB.
Moss Motors is good source.
 
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Does anybody know if there are mga oil pressure = sender and=20 screw-on on the back of the gauge sources? If I can source one, I = finally have a=20 solution for my 59 Landrover.

 

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I had th= is happen before- seems odd it started again on 2 cars but coincidence I= =92m sure. I searched and can=92t find much so I want to know if I=92m missing anythin= g=85 Possible: front engine mount transmission mount (do I have to take it out to see on the TD?) = axle U bolts = TD engine stabilizer TD clutch (seems like might have been the problem last time but what do I a= djust here) Other ideas or what am I missing? I read pilot bearings but were replaced= so I doubt much wear. = Thanks, Mike _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 20 14:40:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE6425850A3 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:40:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CCF7C2580180 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:40:21 -0600 (MDT) t=1434832831; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=eYZZsxGjrPqfFQ7M+MUVY4T7Lv2s/605pxymNm7nQc6Y8f0qmH+rIv3IrBASjpXJA rXF3r8hdhv+TaaZZ7qD5ehe1W3nhp5Y7NRHSyIck3WXAxCQ6rPfrYsn23Ai2z+A69V dJ5hAfsEKsSez9Z77tsb/mwWltf+3W/2SD1tqxGY= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.102]) by smtpout04.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABL2MV7QAEZ6EPJ for (sender ); Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [32.210.19.232] by webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 20:39:03 GMT Full-Name: "mgbob@juno.com" Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 20:39:03 GMT To: mike@duvallvideo.com Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] backing up shudder From: mgbob--- via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8330087776945196105== ----__JWM__J7bd5619.166bf383S.84a37c1M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Welcome back to the judder club. In the TD, causes can be all you l= isted: Front mount-possible, I suppose you could use a pry bar gently = and life engine to see if rubber has un-stuck from the metal. Originals = lasted 50 years. Today's improved replacements about 1/5 of that. Lift g= ently, though, as you don't want to cause separation if it has not alrea= dy happened. Stabiliser-check that movement of engine is about 1/8 inch= , which is about the "give" in the rubbers. If more, look further, to ad= justing the bar if there is evidence that the turnbuckle has moved (not = likely), and inspection of the rubbers. Transmission mount--from under= neath, push up and pull down on the gearbox tail or at the flange. There= should not be much movement. If the rubbers are bulged and cracked, the= y may be bad. Changing them is not complicated, but can be time taking a= nd messy. Oil mess from engine is usual cause of their deterioration, th= ough. No need to remove it; just shove the gearbox around to judge free = movement, of which there should be less than 1/8 inch. Axle U bolts--t= he usual cause. If you have not already installed those wear plates on t= op of the axle, remove one bolt and feel for groove worn where the U bol= t passes over axle tube. Buy a pair of the wear plates if there is any g= roove, and not a bad thing to have them installed anyway. MGA and later = had them on the axles from new. Best of luck finding it--this can be a = challenge. I have been chasing it for a decade.Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Mike Duvall via Mgs To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] backing up shudder Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:28:20 -0500 Both my A and TD started jumping or shuddering when backing up. I had= this happen before- seems odd it started again on 2 cars but coinciden= ce I’m sure. I searched and can’t find much so I want to know if I’m miss= ing anything… Possible: front engine mount transmission mount (do I have to take it out to see on the TD?) = axle U bolts = TD engine stabilizer TD clutch (seems like might have been the problem last time but what do = I adjust here) Other ideas or what am I missing? I read pilot bearings but were repla= ced so I doubt much wear. = Thanks, Mike _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbob@juno.com ----__JWM__J7bd5619.166bf383S.84a37c1M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
  Welcome back to the judder club.  
&nbs= p; In the TD, causes can be all you listed:
   Front= mount-possible, I suppose you could use a pry bar gently and life engin= e to see if rubber has un-stuck from the metal. Originals lasted 50 year= s. Today's improved replacements about 1/5 of that. Lift gently, though,= as you don't want to cause separation if it has not already happened.
  Stabiliser-check that movement of engine is about 1/8 in= ch, which is about the "give" in the rubbers. If more, look further, to = adjusting the bar if there is evidence that the turnbuckle has moved (no= t likely), and inspection of the rubbers. 
  Transmi= ssion mount--from underneath, push up and pull down on the gearbox tail = or at the flange. There should not be much movement. If the rubbers are = bulged and cracked, they may be bad. Changing them is not complicated, b= ut can be time taking and messy. Oil mess from engine is usual cause of = their deterioration, though. No need to remove it; just shove the gearbo= x around to judge free movement, of which there should be less than 1/8 = inch. 
  Axle U bolts--the usual cause. If you have = not already installed those wear plates on top of the axle, remove one b= olt and feel for groove worn where the U bolt passes over axle tube. Buy= a pair of the wear plates if there is any groove, and not a bad thing t= o have them installed anyway. MGA and later had them on the axles from n= ew.
  Best of luck finding it--this can be a challenge. I= have been chasing it for a decade.
Bob


----= ------ Original Message ----------
From: Mike Duvall via Mgs <mgs@= autox.team.net>
To: mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: [Mgs] backing u= p shudder
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:28:20 -0500


Both my A = and TD started jumping or shuddering when backing up.    = I had this happen before-  seems odd it started again on 2 cars but= coincidence I’m sure.

I searched and can’t find much= so I want to know if I’m missing anything…

Possible= :
front engine mount
transmission mount  (do I have to take i= t out to see on the TD?)
axle U bolts

TD engine stabilizer
TD clutch (seems like might have been the problem last time but wh= at do I adjust here)


Other ideas or what am I missing?  =  I read pilot bearings but were replaced so I doubt much wear.
=
Thanks, Mike
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Mine started only after clutch = replacement, which was annoying, and has been doing it for 50k. I just = use higher revs then I normally would when slipping for reversing, = others say lower revs reduces it. C'est la vie. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mgbob--- via Mgs=20 To: mike@duvallvideo.com=20 Cc: mgs@autox.team.net=20 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] backing up shudder Welcome back to the judder club. =20 In the TD, causes can be all you listed: Front mount-possible, I suppose you could use a pry bar gently and = life engine to see if rubber has un-stuck from the metal. Originals = lasted 50 years. Today's improved replacements about 1/5 of that. Lift = gently, though, as you don't want to cause separation if it has not = already happened. Stabiliser-check that movement of engine is about 1/8 inch, which is = about the "give" in the rubbers. If more, look further, to adjusting the = bar if there is evidence that the turnbuckle has moved (not likely), and = inspection of the rubbers.=20 Transmission mount--from underneath, push up and pull down on the = gearbox tail or at the flange. There should not be much movement. If the = rubbers are bulged and cracked, they may be bad. Changing them is not = complicated, but can be time taking and messy. Oil mess from engine is = usual cause of their deterioration, though. No need to remove it; just = shove the gearbox around to judge free movement, of which there should = be less than 1/8 inch.=20 Axle U bolts--the usual cause. If you have not already installed = those wear plates on top of the axle, remove one bolt and feel for = groove worn where the U bolt passes over axle tube. Buy a pair of the = wear plates if there is any groove, and not a bad thing to have them = installed anyway. MGA and later had them on the axles from new. Best of luck finding it--this can be a challenge. I have been = chasing it for a decade. Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Mike Duvall via Mgs To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] backing up shudder Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:28:20 -0500 Both my A and TD started jumping or shuddering when backing up. I = had this happen before- seems odd it started again on 2 cars but = coincidence I'm sure. I searched and can't find much so I want to know if I'm missing = anything. Possible: front engine mount transmission mount (do I have to take it out to see on the TD?)=20 axle U bolts=20 TD engine stabilizer TD clutch (seems like might have been the problem last time but what = do I adjust here) Other ideas or what am I missing? I read pilot bearings but were = replaced so I doubt much wear.=20 Thanks, Mike _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbob@juno.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/paulhunt73@virginmedia.com ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01D0ABFB.AB881E70 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Any above plus oil on the clutch.  Mine started = only=20 after clutch replacement, which was annoying, and has been doing it for=20 50k.  I  just use higher revs then I normally would when = slipping for=20 reversing, others say lower revs reduces it.  C'est la = vie.
 
PaulH.
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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 = 9:39=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] backing up=20 shudder

  Welcome back to the judder club.  
  In the TD, causes can be all you listed:
   Front mount-possible, I suppose you could use a pry = bar=20 gently and life engine to see if rubber has un-stuck from the metal. = Originals=20 lasted 50 years. Today's improved replacements about 1/5 of that. Lift = gently,=20 though, as you don't want to cause separation if it has not already=20 happened.
  Stabiliser-check that movement of engine is about 1/8 = inch, which=20 is about the "give" in the rubbers. If more, look further, to = adjusting the=20 bar if there is evidence that the turnbuckle has moved (not likely), = and=20 inspection of the rubbers. 
  Transmission mount--from underneath, push up and pull down = on the=20 gearbox tail or at the flange. There should not be much movement. If = the=20 rubbers are bulged and cracked, they may be bad. Changing them is not=20 complicated, but can be time taking and messy. Oil mess from engine is = usual=20 cause of their deterioration, though. No need to remove it; just shove = the=20 gearbox around to judge free movement, of which there should be less = than 1/8=20 inch. 
  Axle U bolts--the usual cause. If you have not already = installed=20 those wear plates on top of the axle, remove one bolt and feel for = groove worn=20 where the U bolt passes over axle tube. Buy a pair of the wear plates = if there=20 is any groove, and not a bad thing to have them installed anyway. MGA = and=20 later had them on the axles from new.
  Best of luck finding it--this can be a challenge. I have = been=20 chasing it for a decade.
Bob


---------- Original Message ----------
From: Mike = Duvall via=20 Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
To: mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: = [Mgs]=20 backing up shudder
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:28:20 = -0500


Both my=20 A and TD started jumping or shuddering when backing up. =    I=20 had this happen before-  seems odd it started again on 2 cars but = coincidence I=92m sure.

I searched and can=92t find much so I = want to know=20 if I=92m missing anything=85

Possible:
front engine=20 mount
transmission mount  (do I have to take it out to see on = the TD?)=20
axle U bolts

TD engine stabilizer

TD clutch (seems = like=20 might have been the problem last time but what do I adjust=20 here)


Other ideas or what am I missing?   I read = pilot=20 bearings but were replaced so I doubt much wear.

Thanks,=20 = Mike
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