Subject: Re: [Healeys] Noise on engaging the clutch revisited

From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2026 17:26:42 +0000

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From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2026 18:29:39 +0100

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Hello one and all, again!

I=E2=80=99m always pleased to learn something new about the various =
3000s so that=E2=80=99ll be a long process. However, in this particular =
instance, I=E2=80=99m most interested in the points raised in my first =
message today. Sorry if that sounds a little ungrateful or rude but =
I=E2=80=99m keen not to take my gearbox out unless I must.=20

Simon

=20

From: Hank Leach <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: 16 August 2026 17:27
To: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>; =
[email-masked]; 'Tom Mitchell' <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: RE: Re: [Healeys] Noise on engaging the clutch revisited

=20

Careful here-there is a change point in the center shifts that went from =
a brass bushing (GBC104) to a plastic bushing (22B191) (for quietness?). =
I know of one instance wher the car would not shift properly with the =
wrong bushing.  I will have to look up that change point if its noted =
anywhere in the records. AH Spares says that the brass bush is for the =
BT7 but does not give any change point. Hank
--------------------=20

From: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked] =
To: <[email-masked] =
Sent: August 16, 2026 at 9:07 AM PDT=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Noise on engaging the clutch revisited=20

Actually you should have a "split" nylon bush on the ball at the bottom =
of the gear lever. They also can be challenging to reinstall.=20

=20

M

=20

=20

  _____ =20

From: [email-masked] =
<[email-masked] =
Sent: Sunday, 16 August 2026 10:09:19
>; 'Michael Salter' <[email-masked] =
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Noise on engaging the clutch revisited=20

=20

Thanks for this. Stupid of me not to remind you all that my car is a =
MkII BT7 centre shift. I=E2=80=99m pretty certain that I don=E2=80=99t =
have nylon bushing.

Simon

=20

Sent: 16 August 2026 15:06
To: Michael Salter <[email-masked] =
Cc: [email-masked] =
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Noise on engaging the clutch revisited

=20

I would also strongly suggest that you examine and replace the =
nylon/plastic bushing at the bottom of the shift lever.

=20

My transmission was not shifting into 1st and 2nd gear was difficult.=20

In hindsight there was also some scraping metal noises.

=20

I of course needlessly pulled my transmission before I found out the =
bushing was gone and the spring was shifted (most likely by me trying to =
force it into gear as I was 30 miles from home.

Since it was out I replaced all the normal consumable parts.

It was a expensive lesson =F0=9F=98=B3

=20

Tom Mitchell=20

Ann Arbor Mi.

65 BJ8

=20

On Sun, Aug 16, 2026 at 9:47=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter =

Yes Simon you can remove that plate and the rubber boot to get a better =
view of the release bearing and fork without risk of anything falling =
off.

If you remove the slave cylinder its all a lot easier.=20

Good luck installing the replacement conical spring on the shift lever, =
it's not easy.=20

=20

=20

  _____ =20

From: Healeys <[email-masked] =
Sent: Sunday, 16 August 2026 09:03:26
Subject: [Healeys] Noise on engaging the clutch revisited

=20

I have been away and am back home and hoping to deal with the previously =
discussed issue.

=20

=20

1.	The process is somewhat stalled as I discovered that the spring, 127, =
was broken. How, when, why=E2=80=A6I don=E2=80=99t know. I was not aware =
of it being broken.

Anyhow, I=E2=80=99ve ordered another and won=E2=80=99t proceed until =
it=E2=80=99s installed. Now, first question=E2=80=A6.could that spring =
being broken cause something to misalign and cause the noise?? =
Personally, I doubt it and am aware of the clutching at straws here.

1.	There is a convenient little hole near/under the slave cylinder. I =
was able to stick my endoscope in there and see a (very) little of what =
is going on. Second question=E2=80=A6.if one of the spring clips that =
locate the release bearing was not properly located, could the bearing =
operate at all?? Surely, it=E2=80=99s both on and all=E2=80=99s well or =
failure if one comes off??? Hard to tell, but the innermost clip may not =
have been on correctly. But, again, it would either be 100% on or 100% =
off in which case it would be lying on the bottom of the housing???

1.	The plate, above and item 14 in the diagram. Can I remove it happy in =
the knowledge that I=E2=80=99ll be able to put it back on easily and =
without losing some vital little bit?? I seem to recall that the =
so-called =E2=80=9Cscrews-retaining plate=E2=80=9D can=E2=80=99t do =
anything other than thread into the casing?? Hence, they=E2=80=99re =
called =E2=80=9Cscrews=E2=80=9D?? Were I able to ease that away from the =
casing I could very probably get a better view on things by eye or by =
endoscope.

Thanks for your patience, Simon

=20

Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys =
http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hello one and all, =
again!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I=E2=80=99m always pleased to learn =
something new about the various 3000s so that=E2=80=99ll be a long =
process. However, in this particular instance, I=E2=80=99m most =
interested in the points raised in my first message today. Sorry if that =
sounds a little ungrateful or rude but I=E2=80=99m keen not to take my =
gearbox out unless I must. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm;font-size:pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Hank Leach =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> 16 August 2026 =
17:27<br><b>To:</b> Michael Salter &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; =
[email-masked]; 'Tom Mitchell' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Re: [Healeys] Noise on =
engaging the clutch revisited<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Careful =
here-there is a change point in the center shifts that went from a brass =
bushing (GBC104) to a plastic bushing (22B191) (for quietness?). I know =
of one instance wher the car would not shift properly with the wrong =
bushing.&nbsp; I will have to look up that change point if its noted =
anywhere in the records. AH Spares says that the brass bush is for the =
BT7 but does not give any change point. Hank<br>-------------------- =
<br><br>From: &quot;Michael Salter&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 <br>To: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">simon.lachlan@alexareve=
l.plus.com</a>&gt;, &quot;'Tom Mitchell'&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<br>Cc: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<br>Sent: August 16, 2026 at 9:07 AM PDT <br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] =
Noise on engaging the clutch revisited <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#212121'>Actually you should have =
a &quot;split&quot; nylon bush on the ball at the bottom of the gear =
lever. They also can be challenging to =
reinstall.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#212121'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#212121'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dms-outlook-mobile-body-separator-line><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3Dms-outlook-mobile-signature><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#212121'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><hr =
size=3D2 width=3D"98%" align=3Dcenter></div><div id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>From:</span></strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">simon.lachlan@alexareve=
l.plus.com</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">simon.lachlan@alexareve=
l.plus.com</a>&gt;<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></strong> Sunday, =
16 August 2026 10:09:19<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>To:</span></strong> 'Tom =
Mitchell' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; =
'Michael Salter' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Cc:</span></strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=
<strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></strong> RE: =
[Healeys] Noise on engaging the clutch revisited <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>Thanks for this. Stupid of me not to remind you all =
that my car is a MkII BT7 centre shift. I=E2=80=99m pretty certain that =
I don=E2=80=99t have nylon bushing.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>Simon<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm;font-size:pt'><p class=3Dxmsonormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Tom Mitchell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></strong> 16 =
August 2026 15:06<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To:</span></strong> Michael =
Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Cc:</span></strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">simon.lachlan@alexareve=
l.plus.com</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><str=
ong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></strong> Re: =
[Healeys] Noise on engaging the clutch =
revisited</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal>I would =
also strongly suggest that you examine and replace the nylon/plastic =
bushing at the bottom of the shift lever.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal>My =
transmission was not shifting into 1st and 2nd gear was =
difficult.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal>In hindsight there =
was also some scraping metal noises.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal>I of =
course needlessly pulled my transmission before I found out the bushing =
was gone and the spring was shifted (most likely by me trying to force =
it into gear as I was 30 miles from home.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>Since it was out I replaced all the normal consumable =
parts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal>It was a expensive lesson =
<span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif'>&#128563;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal>Tom =
Mitchell&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal>Ann Arbor =
Mi.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal>65 BJ8<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal>On Sun, =
Aug 16, 2026 at 9:47<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>AM Michael =
Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span style=3D'color:#212121'>Yes Simon you =
can remove that plate and the rubber boot to get a better view of the =
release bearing and fork without risk of anything falling =
off.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'color:#212121'>If you remove the slave cylinder its all a lot =
easier.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'color:#212121'>Good luck installing the replacement conical =
spring on the shift lever, it's not =
easy.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3D"x_m_-3685818747709958713ms-outlook-mobile-body-separator-line"><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3D"x_m_-3685818747709958713ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'color:#212121'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><hr =
size=3D2 width=3D"98%" align=3Dcenter></div><div =
id=3D"x_m_-3685818747709958713divRplyFwdMsg"><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>F=
rom:</span></strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> =
Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of =
Simon Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></strong> Sunday, =
16 August 2026 09:03:26<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To:</span></strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></strong> =
[Healeys] Noise on engaging the clutch revisited</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3Dxmsonormal>I =
have been away and am back home and hoping to deal with the previously =
discussed issue.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><img =
border=3D0 width=3D806 height=3D358 =
style=3D'width:8.4in;height:3.7333in' id=3D"Picture_x0020_2" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]"><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><ol start=3D1 type=3D1><li =
class=3Dxmsonormal style=3D'mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'>The process is =
somewhat stalled as I discovered that the spring, 127, was broken. How, =
when, why=E2=80=A6I don=E2=80=99t know. I was not aware of it being =
broken.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=3Dxmsonormal>Anyhow, I=E2=80=99ve =
ordered another and won=E2=80=99t proceed until it=E2=80=99s installed. =
Now, first question=E2=80=A6.could that spring being broken cause =
something to misalign and cause the noise?? Personally, I doubt it and =
am aware of the clutching at straws here.<o:p></o:p></p><ol start=3D1 =
type=3D1><li class=3Dxmsonormal style=3D'mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'>There =
is a convenient little hole near/under the slave cylinder. I was able to =
stick my endoscope in there and see a (very) little of what is going on. =
Second question=E2=80=A6.if one of the spring clips that locate the =
release bearing was not properly located, could the bearing operate at =
all?? Surely, it=E2=80=99s both on and all=E2=80=99s well or failure if =
one comes off??? Hard to tell, but the innermost clip may not have been =
on correctly. But, again, it would either be 100% on or 100% off in =
which case it would be lying on the bottom of the =
housing???<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=3Dxmsonormal><img border=3D0 =
width=3D618 height=3D456 style=3D'width:6.4416in;height:4.75in' =
id=3D"Picture_x0020_1" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]"><o:p></o:p></p><ol start=3D1 =
type=3D1><li class=3Dxmsonormal style=3D'mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>The =
plate, above and item 14 in the diagram. Can I remove it happy in the =
knowledge that I=E2=80=99ll be able to put it back on easily and without =
losing some vital little bit?? I seem to recall that the so-called =
=E2=80=9Cscrews-retaining plate=E2=80=9D can=E2=80=99t do anything other =
than thread into the casing?? Hence, they=E2=80=99re called =
=E2=80=9Cscrews=E2=80=9D?? Were I able to ease that away from the casing =
I could very probably get a better view on things by eye or by =
endoscope.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=3Dxmsonormal>Thanks for your =
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