Subject: Re: [Healeys] Odd Overdrive Electrics

From: Bob Haskell via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 08:39:58 -0400

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Patrick,

Thinking out loud here.  The hydraulic pump in the overdrive is always 
supplying pressure.  When you turn the OD switch to Overdrive the 
solenoid moves a linkage in the overdrive to open the hydraulic valve.  
When you flip the OD switch to Normal, the throttle switch keeps the 
solenoid energized so the hydraulic valve is still open.  When you press 
on the accelerator pedal, the solenoid de-energizes, the hydraulic valve 
closes and the OD goes to direct.

It seems like the hydraulic valve is moving since the OD goes to direct 
when you press on the throttle.  So, the solenoid would have to be 
energized to move the valve again.

When you first start out, with the OD in Normal, it doesn't attempt to 
go into Overdrive, right?

When I am coming to a stop with the car in Overdrive, I flip the switch 
to Normal, put the gearbox in neutral, and blip the throttle. I then 
move the gear shift lever left and right.  If I hear the solenoid 
engaging when I'm next to 3rd/4th and disengaging next to 1st/2nd, I 
know the OD solenoid circuit is still energized and blip the throttle 
again.

If you put the gearbox in neutral, do you hear the solenoid when you 
move the gear shift lever left/right?

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar

On 8/24/25 05:27, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote:
>
> G’day
>
> Thank you to those who responded concerning how best to adjust the 
> overdrive throttle switch.
>
> Well I did what was suggested and have the overdrive cutting out when 
> the accelerator is pressed about a fifth of the throttle opening.
>
> I wish that was as simple as that, because what’s happening next is 
> confusing.
>
> What’s happening is that I could be driving along in top overdrive. 
> Flick the switch to “Normal” and it behaves as it should, staying in 
> overdrive. Press down on the accelerator and it changes down to direct 
> top. So far so good.
>
> Ease up on the accelerator and does it stay in direct top? No, it goes 
> back into overdrive even though the dash switch is still on “Normal”.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Hoo Roo
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
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    <p>Patrick,</p>
    <p>Thinking out loud here.  The hydraulic pump in the overdrive is
      always supplying pressure.  When you turn the OD switch to
      Overdrive the solenoid moves a linkage in the overdrive to open
      the hydraulic valve.  When you flip the OD switch to Normal, the
      throttle switch keeps the solenoid energized so the hydraulic
      valve is still open.  When you press on the accelerator pedal, the
      solenoid de-energizes, the hydraulic valve closes and the OD goes
      to direct.</p>
    <p>It seems like the hydraulic valve is moving since the OD goes to
      direct when you press on the throttle.  So, the solenoid would
      have to be energized to move the valve again.<br>
    </p>
    <p>When you first start out, with the OD in Normal, it doesn't
      attempt to go into Overdrive, right?</p>
    <p>When I am coming to a stop with the car in Overdrive, I flip the
      switch to Normal, put the gearbox in neutral, and blip the
      throttle. I then move the gear shift lever left and right.  If I
      hear the solenoid engaging when I'm next to 3rd/4th and
      disengaging next to 1st/2nd, I know the OD solenoid circuit is
      still energized and blip the throttle again.  <br>
    </p>
    <p>If you put the gearbox in neutral, do you hear the solenoid when
      you move the gear shift lever left/right?</p>
    <p>Cheers,<br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thank you to those who responded concerning
          how best to adjust the overdrive throttle switch.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Well I did what was suggested and have the
          overdrive cutting out when the accelerator is pressed about a
          fifth of the throttle opening.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I wish that was as simple as that, because
          what’s happening next is confusing.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">What’s happening is that I could be driving
          along in top overdrive. Flick the switch to “Normal” and it
          behaves as it should, staying in overdrive. Press down on the
          accelerator and it changes down to direct top. So far so good.
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Ease up on the accelerator and does it stay
          in direct top? No, it goes back into overdrive even though the
          dash switch is still on “Normal”.
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Any ideas?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Blue Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></p>
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Faulty overdrive relay.=20
David Nock

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> On Aug 24, 2025, at 2:37=E2=80=AFAM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn <p.cquinn@=
outlook.com> wrote:
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> G=E2=80=99day
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> Thank you to those who responded concerning how best to adjust the overdri=
ve throttle switch.
> =20
> Well I did what was suggested and have the overdrive cutting out when the a=
ccelerator is pressed about a fifth of the throttle opening.
> =20
> I wish that was as simple as that, because what=E2=80=99s happening next i=
s confusing.
> =20
> What=E2=80=99s happening is that I could be driving along in top overdrive=
. Flick the switch to =E2=80=9CNormal=E2=80=9D and it behaves as it should, s=
taying in overdrive. Press down on the accelerator and it changes down to di=
rect top. So far so good.
> Ease up on the accelerator and does it stay in direct top? No, it goes bac=
k into overdrive even though the dash switch is still on =E2=80=9CNormal=E2=80=
=9D.
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">G=E2=80=99day<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thank you to those who responded concerning how best t=
o adjust the overdrive throttle switch.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Well I did what was suggested and have the overdrive c=
utting out when the accelerator is pressed about a fifth of the throttle ope=
ning.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I wish that was as simple as that, because what=E2=80=
=99s happening next is confusing.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What=E2=80=99s happening is that I could be driving a=
long in top overdrive. Flick the switch to =E2=80=9CNormal=E2=80=9D and it b=
ehaves as it should, staying in overdrive. Press down on the accelerator and=
 it changes down to direct top. So far so good.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ease up on the accelerator and does it stay in direct=
 top? No, it goes back into overdrive even though the dash switch is still o=
n =E2=80=9CNormal=E2=80=9D.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any ideas?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Blue Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></p>
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I would be suspicious of your OD switch staying closed. Exercise it  and
give it a squirt of contact cleaner.
Alternatively the OD relay could be sticking and not releasing freely. Same
story connect 12v directly and cycle and listen to it.
Just for interest see my simplified OD cct sketch
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[email-masked]> wrote:

> supplying pressure.  When you turn the OD switch to Overdrive the solenoi=
d
> moves a linkage in the overdrive to open the hydraulic valve.  When you
> flip the OD switch to Normal, the throttle switch keeps the solenoid
> energized so the hydraulic valve is still open.  When you press on the
> accelerator pedal, the solenoid de-energizes, the hydraulic valve closes
> and the OD goes to direct.
>
> When you first start out, with the OD in Normal, it doesn't attempt to go
> into Overdrive, right?
>
> When I am coming to a stop with the car in Overdrive, I flip the switch t=
o
> Normal, put the gearbox in neutral, and blip the throttle. I then move th=
e
> gear shift lever left and right.  If I hear the solenoid engaging when I'=
m
> next to 3rd/4th and disengaging next to 1st/2nd, I know the OD solenoid
> circuit is still energized and blip the throttle again.
>
> If you put the gearbox in neutral, do you hear the solenoid when you move
> the gear shift lever left/right?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Haskell
> Well I did what was suggested and have the overdrive cutting out when the
> accelerator is pressed about a fifth of the throttle opening.
>
>
>
> I wish that was as simple as that, because what=E2=80=99s happening next =
is
> confusing.
>
>
>
> What=E2=80=99s happening is that I could be driving along in top overdriv=
e. Flick
> the switch to =E2=80=9CNormal=E2=80=9D and it behaves as it should, stayi=
ng in overdrive.
> Press down on the accelerator and it changes down to direct top. So far s=
o
> good.
> back into overdrive even though the dash switch is still on =E2=80=9CNorm=
al=E2=80=9D.
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=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Alternatively the OD relay cou=
ld be sticking and not releasing freely. Same story connect 12v directly an=
d cycle and listen to it.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-s=
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    <p>Patrick,</p>
    <p>Thinking out loud here.=C2=A0 The hydraulic pump in the overdrive is
      always supplying pressure.=C2=A0 When you turn the OD switch to
      Overdrive the solenoid moves a linkage in the overdrive to open
      the hydraulic valve.=C2=A0 When you flip the OD switch to Normal, the
      throttle switch keeps the solenoid energized so the hydraulic
      valve is still open.=C2=A0 When you press on the accelerator pedal, t=
he
      solenoid de-energizes, the hydraulic valve closes and the OD goes
      to direct.</p>
    <p>It seems like the hydraulic valve is moving since the OD goes to
      direct when you press on the throttle.=C2=A0 So, the solenoid would
      have to be energized to move the valve again.<br>
    </p>
    <p>When you first start out, with the OD in Normal, it doesn&#39;t
      attempt to go into Overdrive, right?</p>
    <p>When I am coming to a stop with the car in Overdrive, I flip the
      switch to Normal, put the gearbox in neutral, and blip the
      throttle. I then move the gear shift lever left and right.=C2=A0 If I
      hear the solenoid engaging when I&#39;m next to 3rd/4th and
      disengaging next to 1st/2nd, I know the OD solenoid circuit is
      still energized and blip the throttle again.=C2=A0 <br>
    </p>
    <p>If you put the gearbox in neutral, do you hear the solenoid when
      you move the gear shift lever left/right?</p>
    <p>Cheers,<br>
    </p>
    <pre cols=3D"72">Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
    <div>On 8/24/25 05:27, Patrick and Caroline
      Quinn wrote:<br>
    </div>
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">G=E2=80=99day<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thank you to those who responded concerning
          how best to adjust the overdrive throttle switch.<u></u><u></u></=
p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Well I did what was suggested and have the
          overdrive cutting out when the accelerator is pressed about a
          fifth of the throttle opening.<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I wish that was as simple as that, because
          what=E2=80=99s happening next is confusing.<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">What=E2=80=99s happening is that I could be =
driving
          along in top overdrive. Flick the switch to =E2=80=9CNormal=E2=80=
=9D and it
          behaves as it should, staying in overdrive. Press down on the
          accelerator and it changes down to direct top. So far so good.
          <u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ease up on the accelerator and does it stay
          in direct top? No, it goes back into overdrive even though the
          dash switch is still on =E2=80=9CNormal=E2=80=9D.
          <u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any ideas?<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hoo Roo<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Patrick Quinn<u></u><u></u></p>
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