Subject: [Healeys] WW Balancing

From: Bob Spidell via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 11:12:08 -0800

FYI ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD3NYLtqiLM
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From: Hank Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 22:19:23 +0000 /UHDsvVWuxyKYVj2stP9R1SD03hKVCdH4XXVJvzJVXm0S0hMJsWT9Sk1GCnGDzOyFJVmWajsxxoMG2O6FTnkn3kdFXKKdXebvzo1zkvxRl1Hi4SVX02tJnP1 nDUluPQ69xeL8y0L/0/BvA==

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<div>Yes, the chrome process tends to "britilize" the spole material unless=
 they are "heat treated"&nbsp; and allowed to cool slowly over a period of =
time-also like when welding cast iron. In the '70s I stripped 5 original 48=
 spoke wheels and had them chrome plated along with all the spokes using =
the above process (chromer said he did it). I assembled and trued the =
wheels and to date (KOW) none have broken. They look quite elegant and =
durable as well, but then again I am not racing my 100. BTW todays =
stainless spokes supplied from other countries are not compatible-not the =
same length and thickness as the Dunlop originals.&nbsp; =
Hank<br>-------------------- <br><br>From: "Michael Oritt" &lt;michael.=
[email-masked]&gt; <br>To: &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>Cc: =
"Healeys" &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>Sent: December 22, 2024 at =
1:57 PM PST <br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing </div>
<div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: #3333ff;">I seem to recall =
that chromed spokes fell out of favor because the plating process made them=
 more brittle and susceptible to breakage.</div>
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<div =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 22, 2024 at 4:05=E2=80=AFPM &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
,sans-serif;">Like Mike, I have very rarely broken a spoke.&nbsp; I have a =
59 BT7 with 48 spoke painted wheels.&nbsp; I am only the second owner, knew=
 the first owner well and have had the car for 50 years.&nbsp; I ran the =
original wheels until 2008 at which point I replaced all 5, mainly for =
peace of mind as I was worried about metal fatigue.&nbsp; I only have had =
them trued once, sometime in the late 70s.&nbsp; In all that time I can =
only ever remember having three spokes break on me, all on the original set=
 of wheels.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri=
,sans-serif;">Cheers, Mirek</span></p>
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style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></=
p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">From:</span></strong><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;"> Healeys &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <strong>On Behalf =
Of </strong>Richard Kahn via Healeys<br><strong>Sent:</strong> December 22,=
 2024 2:44 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Michael Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>Cc:</strong> =
Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong=
> Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: black;">Hendrix believes =
they were older chrome spokes. As I have broken spokes often in the past, I=
 have a Harbor Freight tire remover rig. Over the years, I have replaced =
spokes with stainless so I believe their strength puts excess train on the =
chrome ones. I think I have now replaced 80% of the chrome ones on that =
wheel. I don't drive hard or drive during pot hole season. However, going =
to CHW on interstate 5, I hit many "uneven" construction areas with =
considerable jolts. Usually,&nbsp;I have only had to replace one spoke ever=
 year or two. Outer spokes are easy and I have never had to replace the =
inner shorter ones.</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family:=
 Calibri,sans-serif; color: black;">From:</span></strong><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: black;"> =
Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">michaelsalter@gmail.=
com</a>&gt;<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Sunday, December 22, 2024 10:04 =
AM<br><strong>To:</strong> Richard Kahn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tahoehealey@h=
otmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">tahoehealey@hotmail.=
com</a>&gt;<br><strong>Cc:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt;; BJ8 Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>Subj=
ect:</strong> Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I'm intrigued to hear of your broken spoke issue. I =
haven't experienced even 1 broken spoke for many many years. Do you have =
any insight as to the cause? It's something that I would very much like to =
avoid.</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">M</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p=
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun., Dec. 22, 2024, 12:52 p.m. =
Richard Kahn, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,=
sans-serif; color: black;">Hendrix has done my wheels (and break drums) for=
 20 years. No shakes! Price is very fair but shipping is the killer. I came=
 home from California Healey Week in San Louis Obispo last summer with 7 =
broken spokes. $250 for shipping wheel with tires to Hendrix. Allens work, =
with balance, truing wheels and re shaving tires was about $125 and $125 =
for shipping back. When I needed new tires two years ago, they are sent =
direct to Hendrix overnight. He is very fast. The UPS, not so much. As I =
live in snow country, I have a very short driving season so speed is =
important to me.</span></p>
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width=3D"98%"></div>
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34divRplyFwdMsg">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: black;">From:</span></strong>=
<span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: =
black;"> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
on behalf of sbyers--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt;<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, December 21, 2024 5:42 =
PM<br><strong>To:</strong> 'Healeys' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] WW =
Balancing</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">I&rsquo;m fortunate to live=
 relatively close to Allen Hendrix at Hendrixwirewheel (about 240 miles) =
and he has done all my wheel and tire work for 40 years.&nbsp; He does the =
spoke truing, balancing, and shaving and, as his website says, he =
&ldquo;takes the shake out&rdquo;.&nbsp; For sure.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">I know some folks send their wheels to =
him for the service:&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.hendrixwirewheel.com" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">www.hendrixwirewheel.com</a></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">Don&rsquo;t know what we&rsquo;ll do =
when he decides to hang it up.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">Steve =
Byers</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">BJ8 =
Registry</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">AHCA Delegate at =
Large</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<div style=3D"border-right: none; border-bottom: none; border-left: none; =
border-top: 1pt solid rgb(225,225,225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;">
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,=
sans-serif;">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;"> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bo=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">healeys-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Michael =
Salter<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, December 21, 2024 3:17 =
PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comca=
st.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">bspidell@comcast.=
net</a>&gt;<br><strong>Cc:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] WW =
Balancing</span></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p>As I&nbsp; mentioned =
elsewhere what is shown is all very well for new wheels with new tyres =
however, in my experience, all wire wheels tend to go out of round over the=
 years, probably because of uneven spoke tension when originally built, and=
 once that occurs no amount of balancing will resolve things.&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p>The only solutions are:</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>1.Buy new wheels and =
tyres again. (Expensive)</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>2. Remove the tyres and have =
the wheels "trued" [an advanced skill], strip and repaint then remount new =
tyres, (Expensive and time consuming)</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>3. Shave the tyres as they are on the wheel. ( Inexpensive and =
remarkably effective).</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>4. Put up with the scuttle shake=
.</p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>M</p>
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</div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>On Sat., Dec. 21, 2024, 2:17 p.m. Bob Spidell =
via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
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