Subject: Re: [Healeys] Any Ideas ?

From: Bob Spidell via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 14:36:00 -0800

Spitballs (in descending order of likelihood; i.e. slim to slimmer):

- obstruction in the M/C<->S/C line (think of a BB lodged in the outlet 
that falls out)

- pedal<->M/C linkage kinked, bent, jammed somehow

- M/C  and/or S/C seal stuck

- release bearing lever somehow worn/jammed (wouldn't likely 'repair 
itself')

- S/C lever cocked or kinked

'Vapor lock;' i.e. air in the line would just result in a soft pedal 
(and wouldn't heal).

On 12/4/2024 8:26 AM, Richard Collins wrote:
> Driving my BN7 on back country roads here in Kentucky last week, my clutch peddle wouldn’t go down or stuck in the UP position. When I finally got it to Go down so I could shift the gears slide slowly in to place. Blipping the throttle helped shifting to get home. No issues with OD at all. After cooling down at home, all seemed normal again. I haven’t been in it again to see if it duplicates itself. Fluid reservoir is ok .
> I’m guessing a vapor lock in the system but before I start digging into the trannie and linkage does anyone have a hint of what it could be ? Usually with a bad clutch the peddle goes to the floor.
> FWIW I have a top shifter and not the original side shifter. 20 year owner with no previous issues.
> TIA
> Regards,
> Richard C
> BN7 440
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From: Peter Dzwig via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:54:44 +0000

I don't know, but I had something similar a while ago in my car. Reverse 
just refused to engage but then first went unless you were very gentle 
with it. It turned out to be a stuck cog and then we found that some 
shim "adjustments" had been made to the 'box  when it was being rebuilt. 
The "adjustments" had shattered leaving bits in the fluid, which 
eventually...

Sound a possibility that something like that happened?

Good luck,

Peter

On 04/12/2024 22:36, Bob Spidell via Healeys wrote:
>> Driving my BN7 on back country roads here in Kentucky last week, my 
>> clutch peddle wouldn’t go down or stuck in the UP position. When I 
>> finally got it to Go down so I could shift the gears slide slowly in 
>> to place. Blipping the throttle helped shifting to get home. No issues 
>> with OD at all. After cooling down at home, all seemed normal again. I 
>> haven’t been in it again to see if it duplicates itself. Fluid 
>> reservoir is ok .
>> I’m guessing a vapor lock in the system but before I start digging 
>> into the trannie and linkage does anyone have a hint of what it could 
>> be ? Usually with a bad clutch the peddle goes to the floor.
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From: Richard Collins via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:04:18 +0000

Thanks folks
I think that about covers it.
I’ll let you know what I find but not tomorrow as garage is not heated. Forecast in the 20’s but no snow or fires so no complaints actually versus some of you who are in problem areas.
Happy Holidays to all.
Regards,
Richard Collins
Bowling Green, KY
BN7 440

> On Dec 4, 2024, at 17:16, Peter Dzwig via Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> I don't know, but I had something similar a while ago in my car. Reverse just refused to engage but then first went unless you were very gentle with it. It turned out to be a stuck cog and then we found that some shim "adjustments" had been made to the 'box  when it was being rebuilt. The "adjustments" had shattered leaving bits in the fluid, which eventually...
> 
>> - obstruction in the M/C<->S/C line (think of a BB lodged in the outlet that falls out)
>> - release bearing lever somehow worn/jammed (wouldn't likely 'repair itself')
>> 'Vapor lock;' i.e. air in the line would just result in a soft pedal (and wouldn't heal).
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From: Richard Collins <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 00:05:37 +0000

I leaning toward a linkage issue…
Regards,
Richard C

> On Dec 4, 2024, at 18:04, Richard Collins <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks folks

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From: jomar healey via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 01:50:17 +0000 (UTC)

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 Bad clutch hose?
    On Wednesday, December 4, 2024, 07:37:32 PM EST, Richard Collins <gonna=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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 I leaning toward a linkage issue=E2=80=A6
Regards,
Richard C

> On Dec 4, 2024, at 18:04, Richard Collins <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFThanks folks
> I=E2=80=99ll let you know what I find but not tomorrow as garage is not h=
eated. Forecast in the 20=E2=80=99s but no snow or fires so no complaints a=
ctually versus some of you who are in problem areas.
> Happy Holidays to all.
> Regards,
> Richard Collins
> Bowling Green, KY
> BN7 440
>=20
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>> On Dec 4, 2024, at 17:16, Peter Dzwig via Healeys <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BFI don't know, but I had something similar a while ago in my car=
. Reverse just refused to engage but then first went unless you were very g=
entle with it. It turned out to be a stuck cog and then we found that some =
shim "adjustments" had been made to the 'box=C2=A0 when it was being rebuil=
t. The "adjustments" had shattered leaving bits in the fluid, which eventua=
lly...
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>> - obstruction in the M/C<->S/C line (think of a BB lodged in the outlet=
 that falls out)
>>> - M/C=C2=A0 and/or S/C seal stuck
>>> - release bearing lever somehow worn/jammed (wouldn't likely 'repair it=
self')
>>> 'Vapor lock;' i.e. air in the line would just result in a soft pedal (a=
nd wouldn't heal).
>>>> Driving my BN7 on back country roads here in Kentucky last week, my cl=
utch peddle wouldn=E2=80=99t go down or stuck in the UP position. When I fi=
nally got it to Go down so I could shift the gears slide slowly in to place=
. Blipping the throttle helped shifting to get home. No issues with OD at a=
ll. After cooling down at home, all seemed normal again. I haven=E2=80=99t =
been in it again to see if it duplicates itself. Fluid reservoir is ok .
>>>> I=E2=80=99m guessing a vapor lock in the system but before I start dig=
ging into the trannie and linkage does anyone have a hint of what it could =
be ? Usually with a bad clutch the peddle goes to the floor.
>>>> FWIW I have a top shifter and not the original side shifter. 20 year o=
wner with no previous issues.
>>>>=20
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[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"=
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you know what I find but not tomorrow as garage is not heated. Forecast in =
the 20=E2=80=99s but no snow or fires so no complaints actually versus some=
 of you who are in problem areas.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Happy Holidays to =
all.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Regards,<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Richard Collins=
<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Bowling Green, KY<br clear=3D"none">&gt; BN7 440<br=
 clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; On=
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>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; <br clear=
=3D"none">&gt;&gt; =EF=BB=BFI don't know, but I had something similar a whi=
le ago in my car. Reverse just refused to engage but then first went unless=
 you were very gentle with it. It turned out to be a stuck cog and then we =
found that some shim "adjustments" had been made to the 'box&nbsp; when it =
was being rebuilt. The "adjustments" had shattered leaving bits in the flui=
d, which eventually...<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&g=
t; Sound a possibility that something like that happened?<br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; Good luck,<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;=
 <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; Peter<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"=
none">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 04/12/2024 22:36, Bob Spidell via Healeys wrote:<=
br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt; Spitballs (in descending order of likelihood=
; i.e. slim to slimmer):<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt; - obstruction in th=
e M/C&lt;-&gt;S/C line (think of a BB lodged in the outlet that falls out)<=
br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt; - pedal&lt;-&gt;M/C linkage kinked, bent, ja=
mmed somehow<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt; - M/C&nbsp; and/or S/C seal stu=
ck<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt; - release bearing lever somehow worn/jamm=
ed (wouldn't likely 'repair itself')<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt; - S/C l=
ever cocked or kinked<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt; 'Vapor lock;' i.e. air=
 in the line would just result in a soft pedal (and wouldn't heal).<br clea=
r=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 12/4/2024 8:26 AM, Richard Collins wrote:<br=
 clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Driving my BN7 on back country roads here =
in Kentucky last week, my clutch peddle wouldn=E2=80=99t go down or stuck i=
n the UP position. When I finally got it to Go down so I could shift the ge=
ars slide slowly in to place. Blipping the throttle helped shifting to get =
home. No issues with OD at all. After cooling down at home, all seemed norm=
al again. I haven=E2=80=99t been in it again to see if it duplicates itself=
. Fluid reservoir is ok .<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I=E2=80=99m gu=
essing a vapor lock in the system but before I start digging into the trann=
ie and linkage does anyone have a hint of what it could be ? Usually with a=
 bad clutch the peddle goes to the floor.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
; FWIW I have a top shifter and not the original side shifter. 20 year owne=
r with no previous issues.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; TIA<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Regards,<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Rich=
ard C<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; BN7 440<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt;=
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I concur ... clutch hose disintegrating internally.

On Wed., Dec. 4, 2024, 5:31 p.m. Richard Collins, <[email-masked]=
m>
wrote:

> Driving my BN7 on back country roads here in Kentucky last week, my clutc=
h
> peddle wouldn=E2=80=99t go down or stuck in the UP position. When I final=
ly got it
> to Go down so I could shift the gears slide slowly in to place. Blipping
> the throttle helped shifting to get home. No issues with OD at all. After
> cooling down at home, all seemed normal again. I haven=E2=80=99t been in =
it again
> to see if it duplicates itself. Fluid reservoir is ok .
> I=E2=80=99m guessing a vapor lock in the system but before I start diggin=
g into
> the trannie and linkage does anyone have a hint of what it could be ?
> Usually with a bad clutch the peddle goes to the floor.
> FWIW I have a top shifter and not the original side shifter. 20 year owne=
r
> with no previous issues.
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<div dir=3D"auto">I concur ... clutch hose disintegrating internally.</div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed=
., Dec. 4, 2024, 5:31 p.m. Richard Collins, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gonnagitc=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex">Driving my BN7 on back country roads here in Kentuc=
ky last week, my clutch peddle wouldn=E2=80=99t go down or stuck in the UP =
position. When I finally got it to Go down so I could shift the gears slide=
 slowly in to place. Blipping the throttle helped shifting to get home. No =
issues with OD at all. After cooling down at home, all seemed normal again.=
 I haven=E2=80=99t been in it again to see if it duplicates itself. Fluid r=
eservoir is ok . <br>
I=E2=80=99m guessing a vapor lock in the system but before I start digging =
into the trannie and linkage does anyone have a hint of what it could be ? =
Usually with a bad clutch the peddle goes to the floor.<br>
FWIW I have a top shifter and not the original side shifter. 20 year owner =
with no previous issues.<br>
TIA<br>
Regards,<br>
Richard C<br>
BN7 440<br>
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