Subject: [Healeys] Wheels loose

From: pieter scheenhouwer via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 11:08:38 +1000

Gents,
I have 2 sets of wheels for my BJ7. A set of wires and a set of minilite replicas.
 Recently, I am having trouble getting the front wheels tight enough. It seems the thread on the hub is bottoming out in the spinner before it clamps the wheel properly unless I belt the hell out of it to get it tight enough.
The hubs and spinners have been on the car for over a decade. Car is a daily driver.
The obvious fix is to file/machine the end of the hub or replace the spinners.
Anyone else have this issue before.
Cheers
Piet
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From: Chris Dimmock <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 23:52:22 +1000

Minilites?
How old?
I bought a set and had to have the cone surfaces re machined. 
Clean the cone surfaces and apply engineering blue. 
Knock the wheels on and drive gently around the block. 
Come home and look at the blue. 
Jags etc had a different taper angle. 
I suspect that is your issue. 
It something like “should be 8 degrees, but it’s 9.5”
But I don’t remember. 
The angle required is in your spinner on the outside, and on your hub on the inside. 
I suspect the angles on your wheel don’t match 

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This is a spitball, but is is possible the threads on either/both the 
spinner and/or hub have deformed/stretched enough to cause the problem? 
I know later cars, like my BJ8, have large, coarse threads whereas 
earlier cars--I don't recall the changeover date--like my BN2 had much 
finer threads. I always wondered why the change was made, could it be 
because the finer threads were 'weaker?'

Bob

On 5/9/2024 6:52 AM, Chris Dimmock wrote:
>> On 9 May 2024, at 11:09 AM, pieter scheenhouwer via Healeys<[email-masked]>  wrote:
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    This is a spitball, but is is possible the threads on either/both
    the spinner and/or hub have deformed/stretched enough to cause the
    problem? I know later cars, like my BJ8, have large, coarse threads
    whereas earlier cars--I don't recall the changeover date--like my
    BN2 had much finer threads. I always wondered why the change was
    made, could it be because the finer threads were 'weaker?'<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
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      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Minilites?
How old?
I bought a set and had to have the cone surfaces re machined. 
Clean the cone surfaces and apply engineering blue. 
Knock the wheels on and drive gently around the block. 
Come home and look at the blue. 
Jags etc had a different taper angle. 
I suspect that is your issue. 
It something like “should be 8 degrees, but it’s 9.5”
But I don’t remember. 
The angle required is in your spinner on the outside, and on your hub on the inside. 
I suspect the angles on your wheel don’t match 

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Gents,

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I have encountered the same problem with high mileage wheels and splined
hibs.
You can confirm that the spinner is bottoming out by counting the number of
turns until the spinner thread bottoms out with the wheel on and then with
the wheel off.
With those in my case there was significant wear on the taper of both the
wheel (inner) and the hub.
After checking the thickness of the remaining material both on the wheel
and hub tapers I turned about 0.100" off the outer end of the hubs and all
has been well so far. =F0=9F=A4=9E

M

On Wed., May 8, 2024, 9:14 p.m. pieter scheenhouwer via Healeys, <
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>  Recently, I am having trouble getting the front wheels tight enough. It
> seems the thread on the hub is bottoming out in the spinner before it
> clamps the wheel properly unless I belt the hell out of it to get it tigh=
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<div dir=3D"auto">I have encountered the same problem with high mileage whe=
els and splined hibs.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">You can confirm that the spinn=
er is bottoming out by counting the number of turns until the spinner threa=
d bottoms out with the wheel on and then with the wheel off.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto">With those in my case there was significant wear on the taper of =
both the wheel (inner) and the hub.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">After chec=
king the thickness of the remaining material both on the wheel and hub tape=
rs I turned about 0.100&quot; off the outer end of the hubs and all has bee=
n well so far. =F0=9F=A4=9E</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
to">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Wed., May 8, 2024, 9:14 p.m. pieter scheenhouwer via Healeys,=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Gents,<br>
I have 2 sets of wheels for my BJ7. A set of wires and a set of minilite re=
plicas.<br>
=C2=A0Recently, I am having trouble getting the front wheels tight enough. =
It seems the thread on the hub is bottoming out in the spinner before it cl=
amps the wheel properly unless I belt the hell out of it to get it tight en=
ough.<br>
The hubs and spinners have been on the car for over a decade. Car is a dail=
y driver.<br>
The obvious fix is to file/machine the end of the hub or replace the spinne=
rs.<br>
Anyone else have this issue before.<br>
Cheers<br>
Piet<br>
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From: sbyers--- via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 12:23:58 -0400

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I think it=E2=80=99s a good idea to tighten the knockoffs with the wheel =
off the ground.   I=E2=80=99ve always done that and have never had a =
knockoff loosen (I mark small =E2=80=9Cwitness marks=E2=80=9D with paint =
on the knockoff and the wheel hub to show if the knockoff and wheel are =
loosening (the marks show relative movement).  They never have so far).=20
A friend once complained of a noise from the front of his Healey when we =
were 3000 miles from home.  I asked if he tightened the knockoffs with =
the weight off the wheel.  He said he didn=E2=80=99t, but he tightened =
the loose nut that way and it has never loosened since.
=20
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC  USA
=20
From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Michael =
Salter
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2024 8:56 AM
To: pieter scheenhouwer <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wheels loose
=20
I have encountered the same problem with high mileage wheels and splined =
hibs.=20
You can confirm that the spinner is bottoming out by counting the number =
of turns until the spinner thread bottoms out with the wheel on and then =
with the wheel off.
With those in my case there was significant wear on the taper of both =
the wheel (inner) and the hub.=20
After checking the thickness of the remaining material both on the wheel =
and hub tapers I turned about 0.100" off the outer end of the hubs and =
all has been well so far. =F0=9F=A4=9E
=20
M
=20
On Wed., May 8, 2024, 9:14 p.m. pieter scheenhouwer via Healeys, =
Gents,
I have 2 sets of wheels for my BJ7. A set of wires and a set of minilite =
replicas.
 Recently, I am having trouble getting the front wheels tight enough. It =
seems the thread on the hub is bottoming out in the spinner before it =
clamps the wheel properly unless I belt the hell out of it to get it =
tight enough.
The hubs and spinners have been on the car for over a decade. Car is a =
daily driver.
The obvious fix is to file/machine the end of the hub or replace the =
spinners.
Anyone else have this issue before.
Cheers
Piet
Sent from my iPhone
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Accent 6"/>
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Accent 6"/>
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Accent 6"/>
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-hansi-font-fami=
ly:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>I think it=E2=80=99s a =
good idea to tighten the knockoffs with the wheel off the ground.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span>I=E2=80=99ve always done =
that and have never had a knockoff loosen (I mark small =E2=80=9Cwitness =
marks=E2=80=9D with paint on the knockoff and the wheel hub to show if =
the knockoff and wheel are loosening (the marks show relative =
movement).<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=C2=A0 </span>They never have =
so far). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-hansi-font-fami=
ly:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>A friend once =
complained of a noise from the front of his Healey when we were 3000 =
miles from home.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=C2=A0 </span>I asked =
if he tightened the knockoffs with the weight off the wheel.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=C2=A0 </span>He said he didn=E2=80=99t, but =
he tightened the loose nut that way and it has never loosened =
since.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-hansi-font-fami=
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-hansi-font-fami=
ly:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Steve =
Byers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-hansi-font-fami=
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-hansi-font-fami=
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face=3DAptos><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-hansi-font-fami=
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Large<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 =
face=3DAptos><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-hansi-font-fami=
ly:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Havelock, NC<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=C2=A0 =
</span>USA<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D2 face=3DAptos><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-hansi-font-fami=
ly:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-fo=
nt-family:"Times New =
Roman";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-fo=
nt-family:"Times New Roman"'> Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Michael =
Salter<br><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, =
May 10, 2024 8:56 AM<br><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> pieter scheenhouwer =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> =
[email-masked]<br><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Healeys] Wheels =
loose<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D3 face=3DAptos><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3DAptos><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I have encountered the same problem with high =
mileage wheels and splined =
hibs.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D3 face=3DAptos><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>You can confirm =
that the spinner is bottoming out by counting the number of turns until =
the spinner thread bottoms out with the wheel on and then with the wheel =
off.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
size=3D3 face=3DAptos><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>With those in my =
case there was significant wear on the taper of both the wheel (inner) =
and the hub.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3DAptos><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>After checking the thickness of the remaining =
material both on the wheel and hub tapers I turned about 0.100&quot; off =
the outer end of the hubs and all has been well so far. =
</span></font><font face=3D"Segoe UI Emoji"><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Segoe UI =
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class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3DAptos><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3DAptos><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>M<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3DAptos><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3DAptos><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On Wed., May 8, 2024, 9:14 p.m. pieter =
scheenhouwer via Healeys, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=3DAptos><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Gents,<br>I have 2 sets of wheels for my BJ7. =
A set of wires and a set of minilite replicas.<br>&nbsp;Recently, I am =
having trouble getting the front wheels tight enough. It seems the =
thread on the hub is bottoming out in the spinner before it clamps the =
wheel properly unless I belt the hell out of it to get it tight =
enough.<br>The hubs and spinners have been on the car for over a decade. =
Car is a daily driver.<br>The obvious fix is to file/machine the end of =
the hub or replace the spinners.<br>Anyone else have this issue =
before.<br>Cheers<br>Piet<br>Sent from my =
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From: pieter scheenhouwer via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 10:18:35 +1000

Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I’ve done some investigating and measuring.
Chris, the hub angle on the wires and the minilites is the same and your suggestion on using blue shows even contact
William, the is no obvious wear on the splines and no discernible lash so I don’t think this is the issue.
Roland, threads on the hub look fine, I think your idea that the hubs are softer is the right track.

 Comparing the hubs and in particular the depth of the thread to an old set of possibly original spinners shows the newer ones are approx 1.5 mm shallower.
 I have another set of new spinners that I bought at the same time. Thread depth is the same but they tighten up ok.
 I think that the newer spinners I have just fit when new but a few years of removal and refitting has worn the faces just enough the allow for the tiny bit of play I am experiencing. 
I will fit the brand new spinners and hope they last another decade.
Thanks again
Piet

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> On 9 May 2024, at 11:15, pieter scheenhouwer <[email-masked]> wrote:
> Gents,

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