Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion

From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 12:02:51 -0500

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After seeing the old British Path=C3=A8 movie showing ring and pinion sets =
being
"run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that people find
the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1 in my BN1.
There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are meant to
quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with these?

M

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> Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?  I ask,
> because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to
> replace it.
>
> John
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<div dir=3D"auto">After seeing the old British Path=C3=A8 movie showing rin=
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I&#39;m not surprised that people find the newly made sets a little noisy, =
as I have with the 3.66/1 in my BN1.<div dir=3D"auto">There are various &qu=
ot;mechanic-in-a-can&quot; products out there which are meant to quiet down=
 noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with these?</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 =
a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?=C2=A0 I ask=
, <br>
because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to <br=
replace it.<br>
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From: Peter Svilans <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 17:41:32 -0500

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Michael,

For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% 
Chrome Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  
Factory spec.

Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!

Best,

Peter

On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:

> After seeing the old British Pathè movie showing ring and pinion sets 
> being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that 
> people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 
> 3.66/1 in my BN1.
> There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are 
> meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success 
> with these?
> 
> M
> 
> On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, 
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
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<p>Michael,&nbsp;</p>
<p>For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrom=
e Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.&nbsp; Fact=
ory spec.</p>
<p>Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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<div dir=3D"auto">After seeing the old British Path&egrave; movie showing r=
ing and pinion sets being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not =
surprised that people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have wi=
th the 3.66/1 in my BN1.
<div dir=3D"auto">There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there =
which are meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had succ=
ess with these?</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">M</div>
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rather expensive set?&nbsp; I ask, <br />because I have an older set from L=
impert that is very noisy and want to <br />replace it.<br /><br />John<br =
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I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly 
caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a 
process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the 
book' and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, 
which isn't often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 
75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard in I 
don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'

My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs 
had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, 
DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.

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    I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are
    mostly caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a
    process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the
    book' and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up,
    which isn't often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline
    75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard in I
    don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'<br>
    <br>
    My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early
    Mustangs had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on
    occasion. IIRC, DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss
    sells.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans
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      <p>Michael, </p>
      <p>For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires
        15% Chrome Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion
        rear drive.  Factory spec.</p>
      <p>Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!</p>
      <p>Best,</p>
      <p>Peter</p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <p id="reply-intro">On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:</p>
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style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0">
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          <div dir="auto">After seeing the old British Pathè movie
            showing ring and pinion sets being "run in" in a fine
            grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that people find the
            newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1 in
            my BN1.
            <div dir="auto">There are various "mechanic-in-a-can"
              products out there which are meant to quiet down noisy
              gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with these?</div>
            <div dir="auto"> </div>
            <div dir="auto">M</div>
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              anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?  I
              ask, <br>
              because I have an older set from Limpert that is very
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From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
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"short of putting lard in"
-------------------------------
The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' rears
to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.

On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

> process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book=
'
> and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn't
> often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed t=
o
> help a little but short of putting lard in I don't think there's a
> 'solution in a can.'
>
> had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, DW=
M
> sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.
>
>
> For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrome
> Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  Factory
> spec.
>
> After seeing the old British Path=C3=A8 movie showing ring and pinion set=
s
> people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1
> in my BN1.
> There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are meant
> to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with these=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><font color=3D"#00=
00ff">&quot;short of putting lard in&quot;</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D""><font color=3D"#0000ff">-------------------------------=
</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><font color=3D"#0000ff=
">The old trope was that Used Car lots would=C2=A0put sawdust in their cars=
&#39; rears to quiet them down--but I&#39;m not recommending it.</font></di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

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  <div>
    I&#39;m no hexpert, but from what I&#39;ve seen/heard whiny rear-ends a=
re
    mostly caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a
    process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 &#39;by th=
e
    book&#39; and it&#39;s a bit noisy=C2=A0 (it&#39;s only bothersome with=
 the hood up,
    which isn&#39;t often). I&#39;ve tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline
    75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard in I
    don&#39;t think there&#39;s a &#39;solution in a can.&#39;<br>
    <br>
    My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early
    Mustangs had noisy diffs, and I can hear my &#39;19 Mustang GT&#39;s on
    occasion. IIRC, DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss
    sells.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <p>Michael,=C2=A0</p>
      <p>For what its worth, my &#39;75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires
        15% Chrome Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion
        rear drive.=C2=A0 Factory spec.</p>
      <p>Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!</p>
      <p>Best,</p>
      <p>Peter</p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <p id=3D"m_-3270380043039634943reply-intro">On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, M=
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            showing ring and pinion sets being &quot;run in&quot; in a fine
            grinding paste slurry I&#39;m not surprised that people find th=
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            newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1 in
            my BN1.
            <div dir=3D"auto">There are various &quot;mechanic-in-a-can&quo=
t;
              products out there which are meant to quiet down noisy
              gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with these?</div>
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I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.

On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43=E2=80=AFPM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail=
.com>
wrote:

> The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars'
> rears to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
>
>> process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the boo=
k'
>> and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn'=
t
>> often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed =
to
>> had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, D=
WM
>> For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrom=
e
>> After seeing the old British Path=C3=A8 movie showing ring and pinion se=
ts
>> people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/=
1
>> to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with thes=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.</div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Nov 1=
1, 2023 at 10:43=E2=80=AFPM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.ori=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault"><font color=3D"#0000ff">&quot;short of putting lard in&quot;</font>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0000ff">----------------=
---------------</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#00=
00ff">The old trope was that Used Car lots would=C2=A0put sawdust in their =
cars&#39; rears to quiet them down--but I&#39;m not recommending it.</font>=
</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
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Women=E2=80=99s stockings were reputedly another favourite.

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From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Michael =
Oritt
Sent: 12 November 2023 01:52
To: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion

=20

The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' =
rears to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.

=20

On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell =

I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly =
caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a =
process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the =
book' and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, =
which isn't often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline =
75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard in I =
don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'

My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs =
had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, =
DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.

Michael,=20

For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% =
Chrome Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  =
Factory spec.

Best,

Peter

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sets being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised =
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There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are meant =
to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with =
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On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, =

Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?  I ask,=20
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John
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class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span =
lang=3DEN-US> Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>Michael Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> 12 November 2023 =
01:52<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 =
ring and pinion<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:blue'>&quot;short of putting lard =
in&quot;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:blue'>-------------------------------</span><o:p></o:p></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:blue'>The old =
trope was that Used Car lots would&nbsp;put sawdust in their cars' rears =
to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending =
it.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I'm no hexpert, but from what I've =
seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly caused by improper installation or =
bad break-in--there is a process--although my dad and I installed a =
Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book' and it's a bit noisy&nbsp; (it's only =
bothersome with the hood up, which isn't often). I've tried thicker, =
synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed to help a little but short =
of putting lard in I don't think there's a 'solution in a =
can.'<br><br>My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most =
early Mustangs had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on =
occasion. IIRC, DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss =
sells.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 11/10/2023 =
2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p>Michael,&nbsp;<o:p></o:=
p></p><p>For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires =
15% Chrome Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear =
drive.&nbsp; Factory spec.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Years ago, my 1 liter bottle =
of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN =
!!<o:p></o:p></p><p>Best,<o:p></o:p></p><p>Peter<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></p><p id=3D"m_-3270380043039634943reply-intro">On 2023-11-10 =
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surprised that people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have =
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class=3DMsoNormal>There are various &quot;mechanic-in-a-can&quot; =
products out there which are meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Has anyone had experience with this =
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Gas-X (gas-x.com) definitely quiets noisy rear-ends.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 1:16=E2=80=AFPM john spaur <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:

> Many years ago I had a friend who said he used a mixture of banana peels
> and sawdust. I am not sure what the ratio  was but you could Stat with a
> 50/50 mix. =F0=9F=A4=A3=F0=9F=A4=A3=F0=9F=A4=A3
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of HealeyRick =
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> *Sent:* Sunday, November 12, 2023 5:33:20 AM
> *To:* Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43=E2=80=AFPM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gma=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Gas-X=
 (<a href=3D"http://gas-x.com">gas-x.com</a>) definitely quiets noisy rear-=
ends.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 12, 2023=
 at 1:16=E2=80=AFPM john spaur &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Many years ago I had a friend who said he used a mixture =
of banana peels and sawdust. I am not sure what the ratio=C2=A0 was but you=
 could Stat with a 50/50 mix. =F0=9F=A4=A3=F0=9F=A4=A3=F0=9F=A4=A3=C2=A0</d=
iv>
<div><br>
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<div id=3D"m_-4371827138989341263ms-outlook-mobile-signature" dir=3D"auto">=
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alibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b>=
 Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of HealeyRick &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 12, 2023 5:33:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">heal=
[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43=E2=80=AFPM Michael Oritt &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt=
@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff">&quot;short of putting lard in&quot;</font></d=
iv>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff">-------------------------------</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff">The old trope was that Used Car lots would=C2=
=A0put sawdust in their cars&#39; rears to quiet them down--but I&#39;m not=
 recommending it.</font></div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
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<u></u>
<div>I&#39;m no hexpert, but from what I&#39;ve seen/heard whiny rear-ends =
are mostly caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a proc=
ess--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 &#39;by the book&#=
39; and it&#39;s a bit noisy=C2=A0 (it&#39;s only bothersome
 with the hood up, which isn&#39;t often). I&#39;ve tried thicker, syntheti=
c oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting l=
ard in I don&#39;t think there&#39;s a &#39;solution in a can.&#39;<br>
<br>
My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs ha=
d noisy diffs, and I can hear my &#39;19 Mustang GT&#39;s on occasion. IIRC=
, DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<p>Michael,=C2=A0</p>
<p>For what its worth, my &#39;75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% C=
hrome Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.=C2=A0 =
Factory spec.</p>
<p>Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Peter</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p id=3D"m_-4371827138989341263x_m_8335030238259785492m_-327038004303963494=
3reply-intro">On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:</p>
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<div id=3D"m_-4371827138989341263x_m_8335030238259785492m_-3270380043039634=
943replybody1">
<div dir=3D"auto">After seeing the old British Path=C3=A8 movie showing rin=
g and pinion sets being &quot;run in&quot; in a fine grinding paste slurry =
I&#39;m not surprised that people find the newly made sets a little noisy, =
as I have with the 3.66/1 in my BN1.
<div dir=3D"auto">There are various &quot;mechanic-in-a-can&quot; products =
out there which are meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone ha=
s had success with these?</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">M</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Heale=
ys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
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<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
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Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?=C2=A0 I ask, <br>
because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to <br=
replace it.<br>
<br>
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 The best thing about this fix is trying to convince the ladies to take the=
m off.Gary
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 08:44:16 AM CST, Simon Lachlan via Heal=
eys <[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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Women=E2=80=99s stockings were reputedly another favourite.

 =C2=A0

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt

 =C2=A0

The old trope was that Used Car lots would=C2=A0put sawdust in their cars' =
rears to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.

 =C2=A0

I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly ca=
used by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a process--although=
 my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book' and it's a bit no=
isy=C2=A0 (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn't often). I've =
tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed to help a little=
 but short of putting lard in I don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'

My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs ha=
d noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, DWM se=
lls a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.

Michael,=C2=A0

For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrome M=
oly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.=C2=A0 Factory=
 spec.

Best,

Peter

 =C2=A0

After seeing the old British Path=C3=A8 movie showing ring and pinion sets =
being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that peopl=
e find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1 in my =
BN1.=20

There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are meant to=
 quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with these?

=C2=A0

M

 =C2=A0

On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <healeys@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:

Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?=C2=A0 I ask,=20
because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to=20
replace it.

John
Hightown, VA

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The best thing about this fi=
x is trying to convince the ladies to take them off.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false">Gary</div><div><br></div>
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                    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 08:44:16 AM CST, Simon =
Lachlan via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307"><div><div class=
=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274=
307MsoNormal"><span>Women=E2=80=99s stockings were reputedly another favour=
ite.</span></p><p class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307MsoNormal"><span> &nbsp;=
</span></p><div id=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307yqt54777" class=3D"ydpbbf8022=
0yiv7874274307yqt2107023028"><p class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307MsoNormal"=
><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys &lt;=
[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Oritt<br cle=
ar=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> 12 November 2023 01:52<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b=
> Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> hea=
[email-masked]<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Moss $1=
300 3.5 ring and pinion</span></p><p class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307MsoNo=
rmal"> &nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"color:blue;">"short of putting lard in"</span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:blue;">=
-------------------------------</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpbbf8022=
0yiv7874274307MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:blue;">The old trope was that=
 Used Car lots would&nbsp;put sawdust in their cars' rears to quiet them do=
wn--but I'm not recommending it.</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"ydpbbf80=
220yiv7874274307MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7=
874274307MsoNormal">On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell &lt=
;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><blockquote st=
yle=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0p=
t;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;"><div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0p=
t;" class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307MsoNormal">I'm no hexpert, but from wh=
at I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly caused by improper installati=
on or bad break-in--there is a process--although my dad and I installed a L=
empert in my BJ8 'by the book' and it's a bit noisy&nbsp; (it's only bother=
some with the hood up, which isn't often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oi=
l--Redline 75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard =
in I don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early M=
ustangs had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. II=
RC, DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.<br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none"></p><div><p class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307MsoNor=
mal">On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=
=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><p>Michael,&nbsp;</p><p>For what=
 its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrome Moly adde=
d to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.&nbsp; Factory spec.</=
p><p>Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!</p><p>Best=
,</p><p>Peter</p><p> &nbsp;</p><p id=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307m_-32703800=
43039634943reply-intro">On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:</p><b=
lockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0cm =
0cm 0cm 5.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-right:0cm;"><div id=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7=
874274307m_-3270380043039634943replybody1"><div><p class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7=
874274307MsoNormal">After seeing the old British Path=C3=A8 movie showing r=
ing and pinion sets being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not =
surprised that people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have wi=
th the 3.66/1 in my BN1. </p><div><p class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307MsoNo=
rmal">There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are me=
ant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with the=
se?</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307MsoNormal">M</p></div></div>=
<p class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307MsoNormal">On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. =
John Vrugtman via Healeys, &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@aut=
ox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
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 style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpbbf80220yiv7874274307MsoNormal=
">Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?&nbsp; I ask, <b=
r clear=3D"none">because I have an older set from Limpert that is very nois=
y and want to <br clear=3D"none">replace it.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
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