Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 16, Issue 278

From: george mcharris via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 00:44:44 +0000

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Just purchased from Moss and it is made with a standard wire....It should b=
e flexable enuf ? What you say ?

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Low tension wire (John Vrugtman)
   2. Re: Low tension wire (Michael Salter)
   3. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (Michael Oritt)
   4. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (HealeyRick)
   5. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
      ([email-masked])
   6. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (john spaur)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 15:59:51 -0500
From: John Vrugtman <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire

*Now that's perfect example of thinking outside the box; shoe laces for
ignition wire covers.*

On 11/11/2023 10:19 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:
> Bob, yes they actually do have a "braided" cloth insulation sleeve
> over the braided copper wire originally.? I think the material is cotton.
> I would try using shoe laces. You may have to buy a few types to get
> what you want but I found a tubular type of lace which has an inner
> tube component on Amazon which is just about perfect for the job.
>
> M
>
> On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 9:48 a.m. Bob Spidell, <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>     I don't think I've seen one covered in cloth.
>
>     https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fww=
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>
>     On 11/11/2023 4:59 AM, S and T Miller wrote:
>>     Does anyone know the specifications and/or source of the
>>     distributor low tension cloth covered black wire lead? Interested
>>     in the gauge and type of wire as original, because of the look
>>     and its exceptional flexibility.
>>
>>     I do realize that there are a few sources for the leads, but I'd
>>     rather have a length to keep on hand to make my own.
>>     TY, Shawn
>>
>>     The Millers
>>
>>     "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is
>>     a test drive."
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 19:47:44 -0500
From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire
Message-ID:
        <[email-masked]=

I must give credit where credit is due.
The shoe laces idea is one I got from Andy Thorp in New Zealand.

M

On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 5:22 p.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> *Now that's perfect example of thinking outside the box; shoe laces for
> ignition wire covers.*
>
> On 11/11/2023 10:19 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:
>
> Bob, yes they actually do have a "braided" cloth insulation sleeve over
> the braided copper wire originally.  I think the material is cotton.
> I would try using shoe laces. You may have to buy a few types to get what
> you want but I found a tubular type of lace which has an inner tube
> component on Amazon which is just about perfect for the job.
>
> M
>
> On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 9:48 a.m. Bob Spidell, <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't think I've seen one covered in cloth.
>>
>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.a=
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>>
>>
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>>
>> On 11/11/2023 4:59 AM, S and T Miller wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know the specifications and/or source of the distributor low
>> tension cloth covered black wire lead? Interested in the gauge and type =
of
>> wire as original, because of the look and its exceptional flexibility.
>>
>> I do realize that there are a few sources for the leads, but I'd rather
>> have a length to keep on hand to make my own.
>> TY, Shawn
>>
>> The Millers
>>
>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
>> drive."
>>
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 20:52:04 -0500
From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
To: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
Message-ID:
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om>

"short of putting lard in"
-------------------------------
The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' rears
to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.

On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly
> caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a
> process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book=
'
> and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn't
> often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed t=
o
> help a little but short of putting lard in I don't think there's a
> 'solution in a can.'
>
> My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs
> had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, DW=
M
> sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.
>
>
> On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrome
> Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  Factory
> spec.
>
> Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!
>
> Best,
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:
>
> After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets
> being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that
> people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1
> in my BN1.
> There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are meant
> to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with these=
?
>
> M
>
> On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?  I ask,
> because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to
> replace it.
>
> John
> Hightown, VA
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:33:20 -0500
From: HealeyRick <[email-masked]>
To: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
Cc: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
Message-ID:
        <[email-masked]=

I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.

On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> "short of putting lard in"
> -------------------------------
> The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars'
> rears to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>> I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly
>> caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a
>> process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the boo=
k'
>> and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn'=
t
>> often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed =
to
>> help a little but short of putting lard in I don't think there's a
>> 'solution in a can.'
>>
>> My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs
>> had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, D=
WM
>> sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrom=
e
>> Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  Factory
>> spec.
>>
>> Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:
>>
>> After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets
>> being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that
>> people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/=
1
>> in my BN1.
>> There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are meant
>> to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with thes=
e?
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <
>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?  I ask,
>> because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to
>> replace it.
>>
>> John
>> Hightown, VA
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:45:35 -0000
From: <[email-masked]>
To: "'Michael Oritt'" <[email-masked]>, "'Bob Spidell'"
        <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion

Women?s stockings were reputedly another favourite.

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
Sent: 12 November 2023 01:52
To: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion

"short of putting lard in"

-------------------------------

The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' rears=
 to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.

[email-masked]> > wrote:

I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly ca=
used by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a process--although=
 my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book' and it's a bit no=
isy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn't often). I've tried=
 thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed to help a little but =
short of putting lard in I don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'

My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs ha=
d noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, DWM se=
lls a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.

On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:

Michael,

For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrome M=
oly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  Factory spec=
.

Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!

Best,

Peter

On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:

After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets being=
 "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that people fin=
d the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1 in my BN1.

There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are meant to=
 quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with these?

M

On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <healeys@auto=

Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?  I ask,
because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to
replace it.

John
Hightown, VA
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:16:04 +0000
From: john spaur <[email-masked]>
To: HealeyRick <[email-masked]>, Michael Oritt
        <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion
Message-ID:
        <[email-masked]=
.outlook.com>

Many years ago I had a friend who said he used a mixture of banana peels an=
d sawdust. I am not sure what the ratio  was but you could Stat with a 50/5=
0 mix. ???

________________________________
From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of HealeyRick <hea=
[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2023 5:33:20 AM
To: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion

I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.

On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt <[email-masked]<mai=
lto:[email-masked]>> wrote:
"short of putting lard in"
-------------------------------
The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' rears=
 to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.

[email-masked]>> wrote:
I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly ca=
used by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a process--although=
 my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book' and it's a bit no=
isy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn't often). I've tried=
 thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed to help a little but =
short of putting lard in I don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'

My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs ha=
d noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, DWM se=
lls a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.

On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:

Michael,

For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrome M=
oly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  Factory spec=
.

Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!

Best,

Peter

On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:

After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets being=
 "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that people fin=
d the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1 in my BN1.
There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are meant to=
 quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with these?

M

On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, <healeys@auto=
Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?  I ask,
because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to
replace it.

John
Hightown, VA
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Just purchased from Moss and it is made with a standard wire....It should b=
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&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Re: Low tension wire (John Vrugtman)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Re: Low tension wire (Michael Salter)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (Michael Oritt)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 4. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (HealeyRick)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 5. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp; 6. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (john spaur)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 15:59:51 -0500<br>
From: John Vrugtman &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire<br>
d&quot;<br>
<br>
*Now that's perfect example of thinking outside the box; shoe laces for <br=
ignition wire covers.*<br>
<br>
On 11/11/2023 10:19 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:<br>
&gt; Bob, yes they actually do have a &quot;braided&quot; cloth insulation =
sleeve <br>
&gt; over the braided copper wire originally.? I think the material is cott=
on.<br>
&gt; I would try using shoe laces. You may have to buy a few types to get <=
br>
&gt; what you want but I found a tubular type of lace which has an inner <b=
r>
&gt; tube component on Amazon which is just about perfect for the job.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; M<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 9:48 a.m. Bob Spidell, &lt;[email-masked]=
t&gt; <br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't think I've seen one covered in cloth.<=
br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/BENECREAT-Br=
aided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing/dp/B0BGX937NC?th=3D1">
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&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/BENECREAT-Br=
aided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing/dp/B0BGX937NC?th=3D1">
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9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638354277935599543%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3=
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&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On 11/11/2023 4:59 AM, S and T Miller wrote:<b=
r>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Does anyone know the specifications and/or=
 source of the<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; distributor low tension cloth covered blac=
k wire lead? Interested<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; in the gauge and type of wire as original,=
 because of the look<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and its exceptional flexibility.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I do realize that there are a few sources =
for the leads, but I'd<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; rather have a length to keep on hand to ma=
ke my own.<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TY, Shawn<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Millers<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Always drive them, but remember each=
 drive in an antique car is<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a test drive.&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 19:47:44 -0500<br>
From: Michael Salter &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: &quot;[email-masked]&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire<br>
Message-ID:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAB3i7L+YTK52hpK3Znvdn-Xd0ZG=
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I must give credit where credit is due.<br>
The shoe laces idea is one I got from Andy Thorp in New Zealand.<br>
<br>
M<br>
<br>
On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 5:22 p.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, &lt;<br>
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; *Now that's perfect example of thinking outside the box; shoe laces fo=
r<br>
&gt; ignition wire covers.*<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 11/11/2023 10:19 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Bob, yes they actually do have a &quot;braided&quot; cloth insulation =
sleeve over<br>
&gt; the braided copper wire originally.&nbsp; I think the material is cott=
on.<br>
&gt; I would try using shoe laces. You may have to buy a few types to get w=
hat<br>
&gt; you want but I found a tubular type of lace which has an inner tube<br=
&gt; component on Amazon which is just about perfect for the job.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; M<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 9:48 a.m. Bob Spidell, &lt;[email-masked]=
t&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I don't think I've seen one covered in cloth.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/BENECREAT-Braided-Flexible-Groun=
ding-Reducing/dp/B0BGX937NC?th=3D1">
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&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On 11/11/2023 4:59 AM, S and T Miller wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Does anyone know the specifications and/or source of the distribut=
or low<br>
&gt;&gt; tension cloth covered black wire lead? Interested in the gauge and=
 type of<br>
&gt;&gt; wire as original, because of the look and its exceptional flexibil=
ity.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I do realize that there are a few sources for the leads, but I'd r=
ather<br>
&gt;&gt; have a length to keep on hand to make my own.<br>
&gt;&gt; TY, Shawn<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The Millers<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 20:52:04 -0500<br>
From: Michael Oritt &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: [email-masked]<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
Message-ID:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAPTa0B4gkfN5m1S=3DOc_VXGOTE=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<br>
&quot;short of putting lard in&quot;<br>
-------------------------------<br>
The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' rears=
<br>
to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.<br>
<br>
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wr=
ote:<br>
<br>
&gt; I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are most=
ly<br>
&gt; caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a<br>
&gt; process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the b=
ook'<br>
&gt; and it's a bit noisy&nbsp; (it's only bothersome with the hood up, whi=
ch isn't<br>
&gt; often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seeme=
d to<br>
&gt; help a little but short of putting lard in I don't think there's a<br>
&gt; 'solution in a can.'<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustan=
gs<br>
&gt; had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC,=
 DWM<br>
&gt; sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Michael,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chr=
ome<br>
&gt; Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.&nbsp; F=
actory<br>
&gt; spec.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Best,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Peter<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets<=
br>
&gt; being &quot;run in&quot; in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surpr=
ised that<br>
&gt; people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.6=
6/1<br>
&gt; in my BN1.<br>
&gt; There are various &quot;mechanic-in-a-can&quot; products out there whi=
ch are meant<br>
&gt; to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with th=
ese?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; M<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, &lt;<br>
&gt; [email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?&nbsp; I ask,=
<br>
&gt; because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want t=
o<br>
&gt; replace it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; John<br>
&gt; Hightown, VA<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:33:20 -0500<br>
From: HealeyRick &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Michael Oritt &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, [email-masked]<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
Message-ID:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAGfzsZfNYJa9L3iwnizr5Z+jjdW=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<br>
I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.<br>
<br>
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt &lt;[email-masked]&=
gt;<br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; &quot;short of putting lard in&quot;<br>
&gt; -------------------------------<br>
&gt; The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars'<=
br>
&gt; rears to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are =
mostly<br>
&gt;&gt; caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a<br>
&gt;&gt; process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by t=
he book'<br>
&gt;&gt; and it's a bit noisy&nbsp; (it's only bothersome with the hood up,=
 which isn't<br>
&gt;&gt; often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which s=
eemed to<br>
&gt;&gt; help a little but short of putting lard in I don't think there's a=
<br>
&gt;&gt; 'solution in a can.'<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mu=
stangs<br>
&gt;&gt; had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. I=
IRC, DWM<br>
&gt;&gt; sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Michael,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15%=
 Chrome<br>
&gt;&gt; Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.&nbs=
p; Factory<br>
&gt;&gt; spec.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Best,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Peter<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion s=
ets<br>
&gt;&gt; being &quot;run in&quot; in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not s=
urprised that<br>
&gt;&gt; people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the=
 3.66/1<br>
&gt;&gt; in my BN1.<br>
&gt;&gt; There are various &quot;mechanic-in-a-can&quot; products out there=
 which are meant<br>
&gt;&gt; to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success wit=
h these?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; M<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, &lt;=
<br>
&gt;&gt; [email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?&nbsp; I =
ask,<br>
&gt;&gt; because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and wa=
nt to<br>
&gt;&gt; replace it.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; John<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:45:35 -0000<br>
From: &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: &quot;'Michael Oritt'&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, &quot;'Bob=
 Spidell'&quot;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
<br>
Women?s stockings were reputedly another favourite.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
From: Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; On Behalf Of Michael O=
ritt<br>
Sent: 12 November 2023 01:52<br>
To: Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: [email-masked]<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
&quot;short of putting lard in&quot;<br>
<br>
-------------------------------<br>
<br>
The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' rears=
 to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked] &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>&gt; &=
gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly ca=
used by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a process--although=
 my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book' and it's a bit no=
isy&nbsp; (it's only bothersome with
 the hood up, which isn't often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redlin=
e 75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard in I don'=
t think there's a 'solution in a can.'<br>
<br>
My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs ha=
d noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, DWM se=
lls a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<br>
<br>
Michael, <br>
<br>
For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrome M=
oly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.&nbsp; Factory=
 spec.<br>
<br>
Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Peter<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
<br>
After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets being=
 &quot;run in&quot; in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that =
people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1 i=
n my BN1.
<br>
<br>
There are various &quot;mechanic-in-a-can&quot; products out there which ar=
e meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with=
 these?<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
M<br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<br>
On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, &lt;healeys@a=
utox.team.net &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?&nbsp; I ask, <br>
because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to <br=
replace it.<br>
<br>
John<br>
Hightown, VA<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:16:04 +0000<br>
From: john spaur &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: HealeyRick &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, Michael Oritt<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<=
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
Message-ID:<br>
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<br>
Many years ago I had a friend who said he used a mixture of banana peels an=
d sawdust. I am not sure what the ratio&nbsp; was but you could Stat with a=
 50/50 mix. ???<br>
<br>
________________________________<br>
From: Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of HealeyRic=
k &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2023 5:33:20 AM<br>
To: Michael Oritt &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
<br>
I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.<br>
<br>
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt &lt;[email-masked]&=
lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&quot;short of putting lard in&quot;<br>
-------------------------------<br>
The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars' rears=
 to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.<br>
<br>
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&lt;mai=
lto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are mostly ca=
used by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a process--although=
 my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book' and it's a bit no=
isy&nbsp; (it's only bothersome with
 the hood up, which isn't often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redlin=
e 75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard in I don'=
t think there's a 'solution in a can.'<br>
<br>
My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs ha=
d noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, DWM se=
lls a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.<br>
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<br>
On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<br>
<br>
Michael,<br>
<br>
For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chrome M=
oly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.&nbsp; Factory=
 spec.<br>
<br>
Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Peter<br>
<br>
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On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
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After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets being=
 &quot;run in&quot; in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm not surprised that =
people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1 i=
n my BN1.<br>
There are various &quot;mechanic-in-a-can&quot; products out there which ar=
e meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with=
 these?<br>
<br>
M<br>
<br>
On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, &lt;healeys@a=
utox.team.net&lt;mailto:[email-masked]&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?&nbsp; I ask,<br>
because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to<br>
replace it.<br>
<br>
John<br>
Hightown, VA<br>
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George,

It will work, but I don't think that it will last as long.

I bought some leads from Martin at the Distributor Doctor 
<https://www.distributordoctor.com/low_tension_connectors.htm> in the 
UK.  I believe British Car Specialists sells some of their parts.

Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar

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> >> process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by 
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> >> often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which 
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> >> had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. 
> IIRC, DWM
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> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell <[email-masked] 
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> I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are 
> mostly caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a 
> process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the 
> book' and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, 
> which isn't often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 
> 75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard in I 
> don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'
>
> My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early 
> Mustangs had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on 
> occasion. IIRC, DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.
>
>
>
> For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% 
> Chrome Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  
> Factory spec.
>
> people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 
> 3.66/1 in my BN1.
>
> There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are 
> meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success 
> with these?
>
>
>
> M
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> Many years ago I had a friend who said he used a mixture of banana 
> peels and sawdust. I am not sure what the ratio was but you could Stat 
> with a 50/50 mix. ???
>
> From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of HealeyRick 
> <[email-masked]>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt 
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell 
> I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are 
> mostly caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a 
> process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the 
> book' and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, 
> which isn't often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 
> 75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard in I 
> don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'
>
> My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early 
> Mustangs had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on 
> occasion. IIRC, DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.
>
>
> For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% 
> Chrome Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  
> Factory spec.
>
> people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 
> 3.66/1 in my BN1.
> There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are 
> meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success 
> with these?
>
> M
>
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    <p>George,</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>It will work, but I don't think that it will last as long.  </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>I bought some leads from Martin at the <a
href="https://www.distributordoctor.com/low_tension_connectors.htm">Distributor
        Doctor</a> in the UK.  I believe British Car Specialists sells
      some of their parts.  <br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/12/23 19:47, george mcharris
      wrote:<br>
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        I just purchased one from Moss and they use a standard wire...It
        should work ?? What say you ??</div>
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              Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 15:59:51 -0500<br>
              From: John Vrugtman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
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              *Now that's perfect example of thinking outside the box;
              shoe laces for <br>
              ignition wire covers.*<br>
              <br>
              On 11/11/2023 10:19 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:<br>
              &gt; Bob, yes they actually do have a "braided" cloth
              insulation sleeve <br>
              &gt; over the braided copper wire originally.? I think the
              material is cotton.<br>
              &gt; I would try using shoe laces. You may have to buy a
              few types to get <br>
              &gt; what you want but I found a tubular type of lace
              which has an inner <br>
              &gt; tube component on Amazon which is just about perfect
              for the job.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; M<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 9:48 a.m. Bob Spidell,
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> <br>
              &gt; wrote:<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;     I don't think I've seen one covered in cloth.<br>
              &gt;<br>
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              &gt;     On 11/11/2023 4:59 AM, S and T Miller wrote:<br>
              &gt;&gt;     Does anyone know the specifications and/or
              source of the<br>
              &gt;&gt;     distributor low tension cloth covered black
              wire lead? Interested<br>
              &gt;&gt;     in the gauge and type of wire as original,
              because of the look<br>
              &gt;&gt;     and its exceptional flexibility.<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt;     I do realize that there are a few sources for
              the leads, but I'd<br>
              &gt;&gt;     rather have a length to keep on hand to make
              my own.<br>
              &gt;&gt;     TY, Shawn<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt;     The Millers<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt;     "Always drive them, but remember each drive
              in an antique car is<br>
              &gt;&gt;     a test drive."<br>
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              Message: 2<br>
              Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 19:47:44 -0500<br>
              From: Michael Salter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">"[email-masked]"</a>
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              Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire<br>
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              I must give credit where credit is due.<br>
              The shoe laces idea is one I got from Andy Thorp in New
              Zealand.<br>
              <br>
              M<br>
              <br>
              On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 5:22 p.m. John Vrugtman via
              Healeys, &lt;<br>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
              <br>
              &gt; *Now that's perfect example of thinking outside the
              box; shoe laces for<br>
              &gt; ignition wire covers.*<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; On 11/11/2023 10:19 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys
              wrote:<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Bob, yes they actually do have a "braided" cloth
              insulation sleeve over<br>
              &gt; the braided copper wire originally.  I think the
              material is cotton.<br>
              &gt; I would try using shoe laces. You may have to buy a
              few types to get what<br>
              &gt; you want but I found a tubular type of lace which has
              an inner tube<br>
              &gt; component on Amazon which is just about perfect for
              the job.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; M<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 9:48 a.m. Bob Spidell,
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              &gt; wrote:<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; I don't think I've seen one covered in cloth.<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
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              &gt;&gt; On 11/11/2023 4:59 AM, S and T Miller wrote:<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; Does anyone know the specifications and/or source
              of the distributor low<br>
              &gt;&gt; tension cloth covered black wire lead? Interested
              in the gauge and type of<br>
              &gt;&gt; wire as original, because of the look and its
              exceptional flexibility.<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; I do realize that there are a few sources for the
              leads, but I'd rather<br>
              &gt;&gt; have a length to keep on hand to make my own.<br>
              &gt;&gt; TY, Shawn<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; The Millers<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an
              antique car is a test<br>
              &gt;&gt; drive."<br>
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              Message: 3<br>
              Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 20:52:04 -0500<br>
              From: Michael Oritt <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              To: Bob Spidell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
              Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
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              "short of putting lard in"<br>
              -------------------------------<br>
              The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in
              their cars' rears<br>
              to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending it.<br>
              <br>
              On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
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              &gt; I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny
              rear-ends are mostly<br>
              &gt; caused by improper installation or bad
              break-in--there is a<br>
              &gt; process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in
              my BJ8 'by the book'<br>
              &gt; and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the
              hood up, which isn't<br>
              &gt; often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline
              75-140--which seemed to<br>
              &gt; help a little but short of putting lard in I don't
              think there's a<br>
              &gt; 'solution in a can.'<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me
              many/most early Mustangs<br>
              &gt; had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's
              on occasion. IIRC, DWM<br>
              &gt; sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Michael,<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive
              requires 15% Chrome<br>
              &gt; Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion
              rear drive.  Factory<br>
              &gt; spec.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00
              CDN !!<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Best,<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Peter<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring
              and pinion sets<br>
              &gt; being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry I'm
              not surprised that<br>
              &gt; people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I
              have with the 3.66/1<br>
              &gt; in my BN1.<br>
              &gt; There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out
              there which are meant<br>
              &gt; to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has
              had success with these?<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; M<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via
              Healeys, &lt;<br>
              &gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive
              set?  I ask,<br>
              &gt; because I have an older set from Limpert that is very
              noisy and want to<br>
              &gt; replace it.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; John<br>
              &gt; Hightown, VA<br>
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              Message: 4<br>
              Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:33:20 -0500<br>
              From: HealeyRick <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              To: Michael Oritt <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              Cc: Bob Spidell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>,
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
              Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
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              <br>
              I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.<br>
              <br>
              On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              wrote:<br>
              <br>
              &gt; "short of putting lard in"<br>
              &gt; -------------------------------<br>
              &gt; The old trope was that Used Car lots would put
              sawdust in their cars'<br>
              &gt; rears to quiet them down--but I'm not recommending
              it.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard
              whiny rear-ends are mostly<br>
              &gt;&gt; caused by improper installation or bad
              break-in--there is a<br>
              &gt;&gt; process--although my dad and I installed a
              Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book'<br>
              &gt;&gt; and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with
              the hood up, which isn't<br>
              &gt;&gt; often). I've tried thicker, synthetic
              oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed to<br>
              &gt;&gt; help a little but short of putting lard in I
              don't think there's a<br>
              &gt;&gt; 'solution in a can.'<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me
              many/most early Mustangs<br>
              &gt;&gt; had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang
              GT's on occasion. IIRC, DWM<br>
              &gt;&gt; sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss
              sells.<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; Michael,<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft
              drive requires 15% Chrome<br>
              &gt;&gt; Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and
              pinion rear drive.  Factory<br>
              &gt;&gt; spec.<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $
              46.00 CDN !!<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; Best,<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; Peter<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; After seeing the old British Path? movie showing
              ring and pinion sets<br>
              &gt;&gt; being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry
              I'm not surprised that<br>
              &gt;&gt; people find the newly made sets a little noisy,
              as I have with the 3.66/1<br>
              &gt;&gt; in my BN1.<br>
              &gt;&gt; There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products
              out there which are meant<br>
              &gt;&gt; to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone
              has had success with these?<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; M<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman
              via Healeys, &lt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; Has anyone had experience with this rather
              expensive set?  I ask,<br>
              &gt;&gt; because I have an older set from Limpert that is
              very noisy and want to<br>
              &gt;&gt; replace it.<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; John<br>
              &gt;&gt; Hightown, VA<br>
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              Message: 5<br>
              Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:45:35 -0000<br>
              From: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              To: "'Michael Oritt'" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>,
              "'Bob Spidell'"<br>
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              Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
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              Women?s stockings were reputedly another favourite.<br>
              <br>
               <br>
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              From: Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> On
              Behalf Of Michael Oritt<br>
              Sent: 12 November 2023 01:52<br>
              To: Bob Spidell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>
              Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
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               <br>
              <br>
              "short of putting lard in"<br>
              <br>
              -------------------------------<br>
              <br>
              The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in
              their cars' rears to quiet them down--but I'm not
              recommending it.<br>
              <br>
               <br>
              <br>
              On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell
              &lt;<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a
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              &gt; wrote:<br>
              <br>
              I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny
              rear-ends are mostly caused by improper installation or
              bad break-in--there is a process--although my dad and I
              installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book' and it's a bit
              noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn't
              often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline
              75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting
              lard in I don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'<br>
              <br>
              My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most
              early Mustangs had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19
              Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, DWM sells a 3.54, which
              may very well be what Moss sells.<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<br>
              <br>
              Michael, <br>
              <br>
              For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive
              requires 15% Chrome Moly added to the gear oil of the
              crown and pinion rear drive.  Factory spec.<br>
              <br>
              Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN
              !!<br>
              <br>
              Best,<br>
              <br>
              Peter<br>
              <br>
               <br>
              <br>
              On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
              <br>
              After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and
              pinion sets being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry
              I'm not surprised that people find the newly made sets a
              little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1 in my BN1.
              <br>
              <br>
              There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there
              which are meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if
              anyone has had success with these?<br>
              <br>
               <br>
              <br>
              M<br>
              <br>
               <br>
              <br>
              On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via
              Healeys, &lt;<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a
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              &gt; wrote:<br>
              <br>
              Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set? 
              I ask, <br>
              because I have an older set from Limpert that is very
              noisy and want to <br>
              replace it.<br>
              <br>
              John<br>
              Hightown, VA<br>
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              Message: 6<br>
              Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:16:04 +0000<br>
              From: john spaur <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              To: HealeyRick <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>, Michael Oritt<br>
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              Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
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              Many years ago I had a friend who said he used a mixture
              of banana peels and sawdust. I am not sure what the ratio 
              was but you could Stat with a 50/50 mix. ???<br>
              <br>
              ________________________________<br>
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              behalf of HealeyRick <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2023 5:33:20 AM<br>
              To: Michael Oritt <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
              Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
              <br>
              I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.<br>
              <br>
              On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt
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              wrote:<br>
              "short of putting lard in"<br>
              -------------------------------<br>
              The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in
              their cars' rears to quiet them down--but I'm not
              recommending it.<br>
              <br>
              On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell
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              wrote:<br>
              I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny
              rear-ends are mostly caused by improper installation or
              bad break-in--there is a process--although my dad and I
              installed a Lempert in my BJ8 'by the book' and it's a bit
              noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn't
              often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline
              75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting
              lard in I don't think there's a 'solution in a can.'<br>
              <br>
              My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most
              early Mustangs had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19
              Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC, DWM sells a 3.54, which
              may very well be what Moss sells.<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<br>
              <br>
              Michael,<br>
              <br>
              For what its worth, my '75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive
              requires 15% Chrome Moly added to the gear oil of the
              crown and pinion rear drive.  Factory spec.<br>
              <br>
              Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN
              !!<br>
              <br>
              Best,<br>
              <br>
              Peter<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
              <br>
              After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and
              pinion sets being "run in" in a fine grinding paste slurry
              I'm not surprised that people find the newly made sets a
              little noisy, as I have with the 3.66/1 in my BN1.<br>
              There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there
              which are meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if
              anyone has had success with these?<br>
              <br>
              M<br>
              <br>
              On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via
              Healeys,
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              wrote:<br>
              Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set? 
              I ask,<br>
              because I have an older set from Limpert that is very
              noisy and want to<br>
              replace it.<br>
              <br>
              John<br>
              Hightown, VA<br>
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There are actually 2 of those wires in most Lucas distributors.  1 connects
the points post on the breaker plate to the low tension terminal and the
other connects the breaker plate itself to the body of the distributor to
provide a reliable ground path.
These wires need to be very flexible as their ends move relative to
each other every time the vacuum advance capsule reacts to changes in
intake vacuum, which is often.
The conductors of the original type are made from braded strands of copper
that are about as thick as a human hair and allow the cable to flex readily
without suffering from metal fatigue and breaking, or restricting the
movement of the breaker plate.
I'll bet that Joe Lucas's boffins spent a very long time coming up with
exactly the right combination of conductor and insulator for the job.
Not a fan for trying to reinvent the wheel.

M

On Mon., Nov. 13, 2023, 1:10 a.m. george mcharris, <[email-masked]>
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> I just purchased one from Moss and they use a standard wire...It should
> work ?? What say you ??
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> > and it's a bit noisy  (it's only bothersome with the hood up, which isn=
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> > often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seemed
> to
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> > had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC,
> DWM
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> >> I'm no hexpert, but from what I've seen/heard whiny rear-ends are most=
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> >> often). I've tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which seeme=
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> >> My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustan=
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> >> had noisy diffs, and I can hear my '19 Mustang GT's on occasion. IIRC,
> DWM
> Chrome
> >> Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.  Factor=
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> 3.66/1
> >> There are various "mechanic-in-a-can" products out there which are mea=
nt
> >> because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want t=
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> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell <[email-masked] <
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> Many years ago I had a friend who said he used a mixture of banana peels
> and sawdust. I am not sure what the ratio  was but you could Stat with a
> 50/50 mix. ???
>
> From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of HealeyRick <
> [email-masked]>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt <[email-masked]
> [email-masked]>> wrote:
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<div dir=3D"auto">There are actually 2 of those wires in most Lucas distrib=
utors.=C2=A0 1 connects the points post on the breaker plate to the low ten=
sion terminal and the other connects the breaker plate itself to the body o=
f the distributor to provide a reliable ground path.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"=
>These wires need to be very flexible as their ends move relative to each=
=C2=A0other every time the vacuum advance capsule reacts to changes in inta=
ke vacuum, which is often.<div dir=3D"auto">The conductors of the original =
type are made from braded strands of copper that are about as thick as a hu=
man hair and allow the cable to flex readily without suffering from metal f=
atigue and breaking, or restricting the movement of the breaker plate.=C2=
=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ll bet that Joe Lucas&#39;s boffins spent =
a very long time coming up with exactly the right combination of conductor =
and insulator for the job.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Not a fan for trying to r=
einvent the wheel.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</di=
v></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai=
l_attr">On Mon., Nov. 13, 2023, 1:10 a.m. george mcharris, &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
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I just purchased one from Moss and they use a standard wire...It should wor=
k ?? What say you ??</div>
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<b>Subject:</b> Healeys Digest, Vol 16, Issue 278</font>
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Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
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=C2=A0=C2=A0 1. Re: Low tension wire (John Vrugtman)<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0 2. Re: Low tension wire (Michael Salter)<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0 3. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (Michael Oritt)<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0 4. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (HealeyRick)<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0 5. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.=
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=C2=A0=C2=A0 6. Re: Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion (john spaur)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 15:59:51 -0500<br>
From: John Vrugtman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer">[email-masked]</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire<br>
et.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">36aac2e2-0966-4cf6-9b03-875c0e=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
d&quot;<br>
<br>
*Now that&#39;s perfect example of thinking outside the box; shoe laces for=
 <br>
ignition wire covers.*<br>
<br>
On 11/11/2023 10:19 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:<br>
&gt; Bob, yes they actually do have a &quot;braided&quot; cloth insulation =
sleeve <br>
&gt; over the braided copper wire originally.? I think the material is cott=
on.<br>
&gt; I would try using shoe laces. You may have to buy a few types to get <=
br>
&gt; what you want but I found a tubular type of lace which has an inner <b=
r>
&gt; tube component on Amazon which is just about perfect for the job.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; M<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 9:48 a.m. Bob Spidell, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:b=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">bspidell@comcast.=
net</a>&gt; <br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I don&#39;t think I&#39;ve seen one covered in=
 cloth.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/BENECREAT-Br=
aided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing/dp/B0BGX937NC?th=3D1" target=3D"_blank" r=
el=3D"noreferrer">
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.amaz=
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th%3D1&amp;data=3D05%7C01%7C%7C692dd86501e9430d22d308dbe3d5667b%7C84df9e7fe=
9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638354277935599543%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3=
d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=
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served=3D0</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/BENECREAT-Br=
aided-Flexible-Grounding-Reducing/dp/B0BGX937NC?th=3D1" target=3D"_blank" r=
el=3D"noreferrer">
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th%3D1&amp;data=3D05%7C01%7C%7C692dd86501e9430d22d308dbe3d5667b%7C84df9e7fe=
9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638354277935599543%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3=
d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=
%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=3D4CRiiLy5DQxlkTEwJ7XfbKUZc1dGPq4Enw4bdfnBCWo%3D&amp;re=
served=3D0</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 On 11/11/2023 4:59 AM, S and T Miller wrote:<b=
r>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Does anyone know the specifications and/or=
 source of the<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 distributor low tension cloth covered blac=
k wire lead? Interested<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 in the gauge and type of wire as original,=
 because of the look<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and its exceptional flexibility.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I do realize that there are a few sources =
for the leads, but I&#39;d<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 rather have a length to keep on hand to ma=
ke my own.<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 TY, Shawn<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The Millers<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 &quot;Always drive them, but remember each=
 drive in an antique car is<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 a test drive.&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 19:47:44 -0500<br>
From: Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire<br>
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I must give credit where credit is due.<br>
The shoe laces idea is one I got from Andy Thorp in New Zealand.<br>
<br>
M<br>
<br>
On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 5:22 p.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, &lt;<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferr=
er">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; *Now that&#39;s perfect example of thinking outside the box; shoe lace=
s for<br>
&gt; ignition wire covers.*<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 11/11/2023 10:19 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Bob, yes they actually do have a &quot;braided&quot; cloth insulation =
sleeve over<br>
&gt; the braided copper wire originally.=C2=A0 I think the material is cott=
on.<br>
&gt; I would try using shoe laces. You may have to buy a few types to get w=
hat<br>
&gt; you want but I found a tubular type of lace which has an inner tube<br=
&gt; component on Amazon which is just about perfect for the job.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; M<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Sat., Nov. 11, 2023, 9:48 a.m. Bob Spidell, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:b=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">bspidell@comcast.=
net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I don&#39;t think I&#39;ve seen one covered in cloth.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/BENECREAT-Braided-Flexible-Groun=
ding-Reducing/dp/B0BGX937NC?th=3D1" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">
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&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On 11/11/2023 4:59 AM, S and T Miller wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Does anyone know the specifications and/or source of the distribut=
or low<br>
&gt;&gt; tension cloth covered black wire lead? Interested in the gauge and=
 type of<br>
&gt;&gt; wire as original, because of the look and its exceptional flexibil=
ity.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I do realize that there are a few sources for the leads, but I&#39=
;d rather<br>
&gt;&gt; have a length to keep on hand to make my own.<br>
&gt;&gt; TY, Shawn<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The Millers<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 20:52:04 -0500<br>
From: Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer">[email-masked]</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
Message-ID:<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 &lt;CAPTa0B4gkfN5m1S=3D<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;<br>
<br>
&quot;short of putting lard in&quot;<br>
-------------------------------<br>
The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars&#39; r=
ears<br>
to quiet them down--but I&#39;m not recommending it.<br>
<br>
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@=
comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; I&#39;m no hexpert, but from what I&#39;ve seen/heard whiny rear-ends =
are mostly<br>
&gt; caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a<br>
&gt; process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 &#39;by t=
he book&#39;<br>
&gt; and it&#39;s a bit noisy=C2=A0 (it&#39;s only bothersome with the hood=
 up, which isn&#39;t<br>
&gt; often). I&#39;ve tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--which s=
eemed to<br>
&gt; help a little but short of putting lard in I don&#39;t think there&#39=
;s a<br>
&gt; &#39;solution in a can.&#39;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustan=
gs<br>
&gt; had noisy diffs, and I can hear my &#39;19 Mustang GT&#39;s on occasio=
n. IIRC, DWM<br>
&gt; sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Michael,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; For what its worth, my &#39;75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15%=
 Chrome<br>
&gt; Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.=C2=A0 F=
actory<br>
&gt; spec.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Best,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Peter<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets<=
br>
&gt; being &quot;run in&quot; in a fine grinding paste slurry I&#39;m not s=
urprised that<br>
&gt; people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.6=
6/1<br>
&gt; in my BN1.<br>
&gt; There are various &quot;mechanic-in-a-can&quot; products out there whi=
ch are meant<br>
&gt; to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with th=
ese?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; M<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, &lt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?=C2=A0 I ask,=
<br>
&gt; because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want t=
o<br>
&gt; replace it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; John<br>
&gt; Hightown, VA<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:33:20 -0500<br>
From: HealeyRick &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, <a href=3D"mailto:heale=
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net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
Message-ID:<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:CAGfzsZfNY=
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<br>
I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.<br>
<br>
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michae=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">michael.oritt@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;<br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; &quot;short of putting lard in&quot;<br>
&gt; -------------------------------<br>
&gt; The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars&#=
39;<br>
&gt; rears to quiet them down--but I&#39;m not recommending it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspi=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I&#39;m no hexpert, but from what I&#39;ve seen/heard whiny rear-e=
nds are mostly<br>
&gt;&gt; caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a<br>
&gt;&gt; process--although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 &#39;=
by the book&#39;<br>
&gt;&gt; and it&#39;s a bit noisy=C2=A0 (it&#39;s only bothersome with the =
hood up, which isn&#39;t<br>
&gt;&gt; often). I&#39;ve tried thicker, synthetic oil--Redline 75-140--whi=
ch seemed to<br>
&gt;&gt; help a little but short of putting lard in I don&#39;t think there=
&#39;s a<br>
&gt;&gt; &#39;solution in a can.&#39;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mu=
stangs<br>
&gt;&gt; had noisy diffs, and I can hear my &#39;19 Mustang GT&#39;s on occ=
asion. IIRC, DWM<br>
&gt;&gt; sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Michael,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; For what its worth, my &#39;75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires=
 15% Chrome<br>
&gt;&gt; Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.=C2=
=A0 Factory<br>
&gt;&gt; spec.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Best,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Peter<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion s=
ets<br>
&gt;&gt; being &quot;run in&quot; in a fine grinding paste slurry I&#39;m n=
ot surprised that<br>
&gt;&gt; people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the=
 3.66/1<br>
&gt;&gt; in my BN1.<br>
&gt;&gt; There are various &quot;mechanic-in-a-can&quot; products out there=
 which are meant<br>
&gt;&gt; to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success wit=
h these?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; M<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, &lt;=
<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
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&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?=C2=A0 I =
ask,<br>
&gt;&gt; because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and wa=
nt to<br>
&gt;&gt; replace it.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; John<br>
&gt;&gt; Hightown, VA<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:45:35 -0000<br>
From: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
l.plus.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt=
;<br>
<br>
Women?s stockings were reputedly another favourite.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0<br>
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From: Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; On Be=
half Of Michael Oritt<br>
Sent: 12 November 2023 01:52<br>
To: Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
<br>
=C2=A0<br>
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&quot;short of putting lard in&quot;<br>
<br>
-------------------------------<br>
<br>
The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars&#39; r=
ears to quiet them down--but I&#39;m not recommending it.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0<br>
<br>
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@=
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&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">mailto:[email-masked]</a>&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
I&#39;m no hexpert, but from what I&#39;ve seen/heard whiny rear-ends are m=
ostly caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a process--=
although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 &#39;by the book&#39; a=
nd it&#39;s a bit noisy=C2=A0 (it&#39;s only bothersome with
 the hood up, which isn&#39;t often). I&#39;ve tried thicker, synthetic oil=
--Redline 75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard i=
n I don&#39;t think there&#39;s a &#39;solution in a can.&#39;<br>
<br>
My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs ha=
d noisy diffs, and I can hear my &#39;19 Mustang GT&#39;s on occasion. IIRC=
, DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<br>
<br>
Michael, <br>
<br>
For what its worth, my &#39;75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chro=
me Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.=C2=A0 Fac=
tory spec.<br>
<br>
Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Peter<br>
<br>
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On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
<br>
After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets being=
 &quot;run in&quot; in a fine grinding paste slurry I&#39;m not surprised t=
hat people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66=
/1 in my BN1.
<br>
<br>
There are various &quot;mechanic-in-a-can&quot; products out there which ar=
e meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with=
 these?<br>
<br>
=C2=A0<br>
<br>
M<br>
<br>
=C2=A0<br>
<br>
On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, &lt;<a href=
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<br>
Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?=C2=A0 I ask, <br>
because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to <br=
replace it.<br>
<br>
John<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:16:04 +0000<br>
From: john spaur &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
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To: HealeyRick &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
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Many years ago I had a friend who said he used a mixture of banana peels an=
d sawdust. I am not sure what the ratio=C2=A0 was but you could Stat with a=
 50/50 mix. ???<br>
<br>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Moss $1300 3.5 ring and pinion<br>
<br>
I thought sawdust was the preferred additive.<br>
<br>
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 10:43?PM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michae=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">michael.oritt@gmail=
.com</a>&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&quot;short of putting lard in&quot;<br>
-------------------------------<br>
The old trope was that Used Car lots would put sawdust in their cars&#39; r=
ears to quiet them down--but I&#39;m not recommending it.<br>
<br>
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:42?AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@=
comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&=
lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
I&#39;m no hexpert, but from what I&#39;ve seen/heard whiny rear-ends are m=
ostly caused by improper installation or bad break-in--there is a process--=
although my dad and I installed a Lempert in my BJ8 &#39;by the book&#39; a=
nd it&#39;s a bit noisy=C2=A0 (it&#39;s only bothersome with
 the hood up, which isn&#39;t often). I&#39;ve tried thicker, synthetic oil=
--Redline 75-140--which seemed to help a little but short of putting lard i=
n I don&#39;t think there&#39;s a &#39;solution in a can.&#39;<br>
<br>
My dad, who was a factory rep for Ford, told me many/most early Mustangs ha=
d noisy diffs, and I can hear my &#39;19 Mustang GT&#39;s on occasion. IIRC=
, DWM sells a 3.54, which may very well be what Moss sells.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 11/10/2023 2:41 PM, Peter Svilans wrote:<br>
<br>
Michael,<br>
<br>
For what its worth, my &#39;75 Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive requires 15% Chro=
me Moly added to the gear oil of the crown and pinion rear drive.=C2=A0 Fac=
tory spec.<br>
<br>
Years ago, my 1 liter bottle of MolySlip was $ 46.00 CDN !!<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Peter<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2023-11-10 12:02 pm, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
<br>
After seeing the old British Path? movie showing ring and pinion sets being=
 &quot;run in&quot; in a fine grinding paste slurry I&#39;m not surprised t=
hat people find the newly made sets a little noisy, as I have with the 3.66=
/1 in my BN1.<br>
There are various &quot;mechanic-in-a-can&quot; products out there which ar=
e meant to quiet down noisy gears. Wondering if anyone has had success with=
 these?<br>
<br>
M<br>
<br>
On Fri., Nov. 10, 2023, 11:14 a.m. John Vrugtman via Healeys, &lt;<a href=
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ote:<br>
Has anyone had experience with this rather expensive set?=C2=A0 I ask,<br>
because I have an older set from Limpert that is very noisy and want to<br>
replace it.<br>
<br>
John<br>
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