Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive accumulator piston with rings

From: Hank Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:22:31 +0000 8EkQjY23bTgf7gFedmVc1H/a1pwCYPxfk8+2b0W4+RjD6sAd7U5Ftm75hQfncv/8CSkz0I4wfa2pSkfCMP+JcedJxMtK3Xx/K4RYMve+1hCWfUYfV02gT5UV

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John-if you are referring to the steel rings they are just stuck=0Atoget=
her from age-soak them in kerosene for awhile. They are very=0Adelicate-=
don't pry them-a razor blade can also carefully separate=0Athem. If you=
 are referring to the O-rings the latest accumulator body=0Aonly uses on=
e o-ring. Hank=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------From: "J=
ohn Spaur via=0AHealeys" =0ATo: "healeys"=0ACc: =0ASent: Wednesday June=
 21 2023 8:56:31PM=0ASubject: [Healeys] Overdrive accumulator piston wit=
h rings=0A=0A=09I am replacing the accumulator housing, piston and rings=
. When I=0Aopened the piston box, there was only one wide ring with two=
 narrow=0Arings. Shouldn=E2=80=99t there be two wide rings and four narr=
ow to make up=0Atwo ring sets for the piston? =0A=0A=09John Spaur =0A=0A=
=09=E2=80=9962 BT7

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<html><body>John-if you are referring to the steel rings they are just s=
tuck together from age-soak them in kerosene for awhile.&nbsp; They are=
 very delicate-don't pry them-a razor blade can also carefully separate=
 them.&nbsp; If you are referring to the O-rings the latest accumulator=
 body only uses one o-ring.&nbsp; Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-si=
gnature"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "Jo=
hn Spaur via Healeys" <[email-masked]><br>To: "healeys"<br>Cc: <=
br>Sent: Wednesday June 21 2023 8:56:31PM<br>Subject: [Healeys] Overdriv=
e accumulator piston with rings<br><br>=0A<div class=3D"WordSection1">=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am replacing the accumulator housing, piston=
=0Aand rings. When I opened the piston box, there was only one wide=0Ari=
ng with two narrow rings. Shouldn=E2=80=99t there be two wide rings and=
=0Afour narrow to make up two ring sets for the piston?</p>=0A<p class=
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From: jmsdarch--- via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 09:43:23 -0700

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Hank,

=20

I am referring to the steel rings. Checking the parts manual there are =
two rings on each piston. Each ring is a set, comprised of a wide ring =
with two thinner rings on the outside. Moss only sent one ring set. =
There should be two wide rings and four narrow rings to make up the =
required two ring sets.

=20

Thanks,

John

=20

From: Hank Leach <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 9:23 AM
To: 'John Spaur' <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Overdrive accumulator piston with rings

=20

John-if you are referring to the steel rings they are just stuck =
together from age-soak them in kerosene for awhile.  They are very =
delicate-don't pry them-a razor blade can also carefully separate them.  =
If you are referring to the O-rings the latest accumulator body only =
uses one o-ring.  Hank

-----------------------------------------

From: "John Spaur via Healeys"=20
To: "healeys"
Cc:=20
Sent: Wednesday June 21 2023 8:56:31PM
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive accumulator piston with rings

I am replacing the accumulator housing, piston and rings. When I opened =
the piston box, there was only one wide ring with two narrow rings. =
Shouldn=E2=80=99t there be two wide rings and four narrow to make up two =
ring sets for the piston?

=20

John Spaur

=E2=80=9962 BT7

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hank,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I am =
referring to the steel rings. Checking the parts manual there are two =
rings on each piston. Each ring is a set, comprised of a wide ring with =
two thinner rings on the outside. Moss only sent one ring set. There =
should be two wide rings and four narrow rings to make up the required =
two ring sets.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>John<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Hank Leach =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 22, 2023 =
9:23 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'John Spaur' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'healeys' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] =
Overdrive accumulator piston with rings<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>John-if you are referring to the steel =
rings they are just stuck together from age-soak them in kerosene for =
awhile.&nbsp; They are very delicate-don't pry them-a razor blade can =
also carefully separate them.&nbsp; If you are referring to the O-rings =
the latest accumulator body only uses one o-ring.&nbsp; =
Hank<o:p></o:p></p><p>-----------------------------------------<o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>From: =
&quot;John Spaur via Healeys&quot; <br>To: &quot;healeys&quot;<br>Cc: =
<br>Sent: Wednesday June 21 2023 8:56:31PM<br>Subject: [Healeys] =
Overdrive accumulator piston with rings<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I am =
replacing the accumulator housing, piston and rings. When I opened the =
piston box, there was only one wide ring with two narrow rings. =
Shouldn=E2=80=99t there be two wide rings and four narrow to make up two =
ring sets for the piston?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>John =
Spaur<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>=E2=80=9962 =
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From: Hank Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 01:09:33 +0000 LkXRhogihEpmDMPXROasktbkqGh8K+pW7UiJ/IN7QonMBifsu5qHZ0q7l5QnHPZdKLwVj2v7qrDbrbGQCUdC2OM55huX91BRfDY9786koMCKj17Gzdm8ht8h 9nDQSuFDRg1iIDo308uADA==

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Use metal rings-live with scores. Hank=0A=0A=09-------------------------=
----------------From: "Michael Salter" =0ATo: "Bob Spidell"=0ACc: "heale=
[email-masked]"=0ASent: Thursday June 22 2023 11:51:58AM=0ASubject: R=
e: [Healeys] Overdrive accumulator piston with rings=0A=0A Years ago I m=
ade an accumulator piston to use an O ring. The result=0Awas an abject f=
ailure as tiny chunks of the O ring were sliced off=0Aeach time it passe=
d over the pressure relief drillings in the housing.=0AAny clue as to ho=
w that has been overcome? =0A M  =0A On Thu., Jun. 22, 2023, 9:41 a.m. B=
ob Spidell,  wrote:=0A  I have the DWM 'uprated' accumulator set; the ho=
using has an O-ring=0Aand the piston has four equally-sized metal rings.=
 Don't recall any=0Aothers, but don't think it was any different than th=
e OEM one I took=0Aout.=0A=0A Too late now, but had I known of it I migh=
t have bought the AH Spares=0Aversion with O-ring(s?) on the piston inst=
ead of metal rings. The=0Ametal rings will score the accumulator bore ev=
entually.=0A=0AOn 6/21/2023 7:35 PM, John Spaur via Healeys wrote:=0A=0A=
=09I am replacing the accumulator housing, piston and rings. When I=0Aop=
ened the piston box, there was only one wide ring with two narrow=0Aring=
s. Shouldn=E2=80=99t there be two wide rings and four narrow to make up=
=0Atwo ring sets for the piston? =0A=0A=09John Spaur =0A=0A=09=E2=80=996=
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<html><body>Use metal rings-live with scores.&nbsp; Hank<br><br><div cla=
ss=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>------------------------------------=
-----</p>From: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked]><br>To: "Bob Sp=
idell"<br>Cc: "[email-masked]"<br>Sent: Thursday June 22 2023 11=
:51:58AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive accumulator piston with rin=
gs<br><br>=0A<div>Years ago I made an accumulator piston to use an O=0Ar=
ing.&nbsp;=0A<div>The result was an abject failure as tiny chunks of=0At=
he O ring were sliced off each time it passed over the pressure=0Arelief=
 drillings in the housing.</div>=0A<div>Any clue as to how that has been=
 overcome?</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>M</div>=0A</div>=0A<br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu., Ju=
n. 22, 2023, 9:41 a.m.=0ABob Spidell, &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt=
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 the DWM 'uprated' accumulator set; the housing has an=0AO-ring and the=
 piston has four equally-sized metal rings. Don't=0Arecall any others, b=
ut don't think it was any different than the=0AOEM one I took out.<br><b=
r>=0AToo late now, but had I known of it I might have bought the AH=0ASp=
ares version with O-ring(s?) on the piston instead of metal=0Arings. The=
 metal rings will score the accumulator bore=0Aeventually.<br><br><br><b=
r><div>On 6/21/2023 7:35 PM, John Spaur via Healeys wrote:<br></div>=0A<=
blockquote>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am replacing the accumula=
tor housing, piston=0Aand rings. When I opened the piston box, there was=
 only one wide=0Aring with two narrow rings. Shouldn=E2=80=99t there be=
 two wide rings and=0Afour narrow to make up two ring sets for the pisto=
n?</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">John=
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 18:18:34 -0700

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Umm, OK. Why? LdeN--or Austin, who knows--went from metal rings to 
O-rings--$0.49/ea from MM (maybe the reason)--on the operating pistons 
for the later cars. The ones in my BJ8's OD at about 210K miles were 
somewhat flattened on the expected side, but still worked.

bs

On 6/22/2023 6:09 PM, Hank Leach wrote:
> Use metal rings-live with scores.  Hank
>
> From: "Michael Salter"
> To: "Bob Spidell"
> Cc: "[email-masked]"
> Sent: Thursday June 22 2023 11:51:58AM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive accumulator piston with rings
>
> Years ago I made an accumulator piston to use an O ring.
> The result was an abject failure as tiny chunks of the O ring were 
> sliced off each time it passed over the pressure relief drillings in 
> the housing.
> Any clue as to how that has been overcome?
>
> M
>
> On Thu., Jun. 22, 2023, 9:41 a.m. Bob Spidell, <[email-masked]> 
> wrote:
>
>     I have the DWM 'uprated' accumulator set; the housing has an
>     O-ring and the piston has four equally-sized metal rings. Don't
>     recall any others, but don't think it was any different than the
>     OEM one I took out.
>
>     Too late now, but had I known of it I might have bought the AH
>     Spares version with O-ring(s?) on the piston instead of metal
>     rings. The metal rings will score the accumulator bore eventually.
>
>
>
>     On 6/21/2023 7:35 PM, John Spaur via Healeys wrote:
>
>         I am replacing the accumulator housing, piston and rings. When
>         I opened the piston box, there was only one wide ring with two
>         narrow rings. Shouldn’t there be two wide rings and four
>         narrow to make up two ring sets for the piston?
>
>         John Spaur
>
>         ’62 BT7
>
>
>
>

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    Umm, OK. Why? LdeN--or Austin, who knows--went from metal rings to
    O-rings--$0.49/ea from MM (maybe the reason)--on the operating
    pistons for the later cars. The ones in my BJ8's OD at about 210K
    miles were somewhat flattened on the expected side, but still
    worked.<br>
    <br>
    bs<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/22/2023 6:09 PM, Hank Leach wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:d20df59b299c3f3cd04121113f7628c6634d92fb@webmail">
      <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      Use metal rings-live with scores.  Hank<br>
      <br>
      <p>-----------------------------------------</p>
      From: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked]><br>
        To: "Bob Spidell"<br>
        Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">"[email-masked]"</a><br>
        Sent: Thursday June 22 2023 11:51:58AM<br>
        Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive accumulator piston with rings<br>
        <br>
        <div>Years ago I made an accumulator piston to use an O
          ring. 
          <div>The result was an abject failure as tiny chunks of
            the O ring were sliced off each time it passed over the
            pressure
            relief drillings in the housing.</div>
          <div>Any clue as to how that has been overcome?</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>M</div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu., Jun. 22, 2023, 9:41
            a.m.
            Bob Spidell, &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
            wrote:<br>
          </div>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
            <div>I have the DWM 'uprated' accumulator set; the housing
              has an
              O-ring and the piston has four equally-sized metal rings.
              Don't
              recall any others, but don't think it was any different
              than the
              OEM one I took out.<br>
              <br>
              Too late now, but had I known of it I might have bought
              the AH
              Spares version with O-ring(s?) on the piston instead of
              metal
              rings. The metal rings will score the accumulator bore
              eventually.<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <div>On 6/21/2023 7:35 PM, John Spaur via Healeys wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">I am replacing the accumulator
                    housing, piston
                    and rings. When I opened the piston box, there was
                    only one wide
                    ring with two narrow rings. Shouldn’t there be two
                    wide rings and
                    four narrow to make up two ring sets for the piston?</p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">John Spaur</p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">’62 BT7</p>
                </div>
                <br>
              </blockquote>
              <br>
            </div>
            <br>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
      </[email-masked]></blockquote>
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