Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer

From: Perry Small via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 12:54:19 -0400

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Listers&nbsp;<div>If you look at the drums y=
ou will see areas that were ground off to balance the drums.&nbsp;<div>I hav=
e given away all my spare parts so I do not have a good example to photograp=
h.&nbsp;</div><div>Perry</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPh=
one</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 19, 2023, at 2=
:19 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br=
><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8"><ti=
tle></title><p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Good ques=
tion Bob! I doubt they have done it and the cars were running anyway.<br></s=
pan></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-se=
rif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Thanks,</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-se=
rif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Josef</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-se=
rif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was W=
ire Wheel Balancer</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2023-05-19T07:56:40+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Robert Parker via Healeys" &lt;healeys@autox=
.team.net&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "Michael Salter" &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<div style=3D"position: relative; color: #000000; font: 12px Arial,Helvetica=
,sans-serif;">Has anyone bothered to check whether the factory ever balanced=
 the drums or even worried about it? It=E2=80=99s not that I don=E2=80=99t c=
are, it=E2=80=99s just I=E2=80=99d like to know if anyone has heard of that h=
appening at the factory. Bob, 61BT7.<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote>On May 17, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys &lt;heal=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote>
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<div dir=3D"auto">With all this noise about balancing brake drums I thought I=
 had better take a look at the ones on my BN2.&nbsp;
<div dir=3D"auto">I'm in the process if machining them back to&nbsp; balance=
 now.&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Bit of a task on my 12" lathe but it's happening.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed., May 17, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Micha=
el MacLean via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">healey=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1=
px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"auto">Don't grind it. Have it machined off.
<div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, May 17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard K=
ahn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer">tahoeh=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1=
px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; co=
lor: #000000;">Hendrix welded more material to my drums as needed and it see=
ms to have worked fine. I would not like grinding off material as it might a=
ffect the integrity of the drum by making it thinner, effecting the heat dis=
tribution and strength.&nbsp; Just some rambling from someone who doesn't kn=
ow what he is talking about.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; co=
lor: #000000;">&nbsp;</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family=
: Calibri, sans-serif;"><strong>From:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">healeys-bounc=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">alfuller194@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, May 17, 2023 12:23 AM<br><=
strong>To:</strong> 'Michael MacLean' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:springer.mike51@=
gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<b=
r><strong>Cc:</strong> 'Healey List' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><stro=
ng>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Bala=
ncer</span>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Mike =E2=80=93 I would think that would be the likely explanation for havin=
g sections of the drum rim machined off.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;</p>
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>----------------</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>All the best,</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Al Fuller</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;</p>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><strong>From:</strong> Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:springer.mike5=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 <br><strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, May 16, 2023 2:47 PM<br><strong>To:</st=
rong> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer"=
>[email-masked]</a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Brake D=
rum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;</p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Al, list,&nbsp;</p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;The drums for my BN2 has sections of the raised rim mac=
hined off. Does this mean my drums were balanced in the past?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Mike MacLean</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;</p>
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<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>On Tue, May 16, 2023, 2:30 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #cccccc 1.0pt; padding=
: 0in 0in 0in 6.0pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Bob:&nbsp; If you are wondering about brake drum balancing methods, you may=
 be interested in the two methods used on my Healeys.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>One shop trimmed off the fins as needed to balance the drums, one needing m=
ore trimming than the other =E2=80=93 but they both came out well.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>A different shop welded rod material onto my current BJ-8=E2=80=99s drums t=
o balance them. I think these drums were more out of balance than on prior c=
ars. They were careful to call me ahead of the operation to ask how much cle=
arance I had between the wheel and drum, and I was able to take them a wheel=
 and hub so they could see how it all fit together.&nbsp; The results are ju=
st fine, also.</p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>----------------</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>All the best,</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Al Fuller</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><strong>From:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Bob Haskell via Healeys<br><strong>Sent:</s=
trong> Monday, May 15, 2023 2:36 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Harold Manifold &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">manif=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; Healey List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong=
>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Harold,</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">How did you balance the drums - add or remove mate=
rial? Care to provide any details?</p>
<pre style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;">Bob Has=
kell</pre>
<pre style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;">Austin-=
Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>On 5/15/23 11:32, Harold Manifold wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Another consideration for balancing the rear tires is the brake drums. I ha=
ve the original BMC brake drums and was surprised at how out of balance they=
 were. I static balanced the brake drums to go with the separately&nbsp;bala=
nced wheels and tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skuttle shakes so far.</p>=

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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;</p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>Harold</p>
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</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>&nbsp;</p>
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<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
>On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:greylinn@oze=
mail.com.au" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #cccccc 1.0pt; padding=
: 0in 0in 0in 6.0pt; margin: 5.0pt 0in 5.0pt 4.8pt;">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Here in Brisbane there=E2=80=99s at least one place (n=
ear me) that does on-car balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a=
 central hole, so can=E2=80=99t be balanced on a regular machine. That said,=
 the last set of Khumo Ecowing ES31s I bought are fine with no balancing!</s=
pan></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Peter Linn</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Brisbane</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">BN1 Holden V6</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">MG TC special</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><strong>From:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>m.g.sharp--- via Healeys<br><strong>Sent:</=
strong> Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> 'Harold Manifol=
d' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">m=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 'HealeyRick' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmai=
l.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>=
Cc:</strong> 'Healeys' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"=
noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</s=
trong> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-of=
f (spinner).&nbsp; I had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure t=
hat it was true on the inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put=
 a slight chamfer on the edges to provide better registration for the standa=
rd cones on a modern balancer.&nbsp; Then we machined the centre out of the s=
pinner so&nbsp; that when the wheel is mounted on the hub and the spinner is=
 tightened, the outer cone on the balancer fits through it and registers on t=
he hub.&nbsp; That part is a little tricky as if you machine the hole too bi=
g, the spinner will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully!&nbsp; H=
ub and spinner was $25 at a swap meet and machining was $50.&nbsp; I believe=
 this adaptor will work on any post-war wire wheels except the Jags, which h=
ad different hubs.&nbsp; Worked a treat on my TC wheels.&nbsp; Healey is run=
ning vibration-free- so leaving it alone for now.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinki=
ng it balanced the drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you re=
membered to mark the position of the wheels when you took them off and did n=
ot rotate them (to a different position on the car)!&nbsp; That is likely on=
e reason &nbsp;they are not used anymore, because if your drums were out of b=
alance and you added weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then every=
 time you removed the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, unless it went=
 back in exactly the same position. &nbsp;&nbsp;Anyhow it=E2=80=99s a moot p=
oint as I have not seen an on-wheel balancer for decades. &nbsp;&nbsp;I imag=
ine that disks run very true anyhow, but when I balanced the drums on the TC=
&nbsp; they were significantly off.&nbsp; I hear balancing Healey drums brin=
gs good results, but never felt the need as my BT7 has always run pretty smo=
oth.&nbsp; If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants drums balanced, Garland and S=
ons in Scarborough did great work for me.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Mirek</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><strong>From:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Harold Manifold<br><strong>Sent:</strong> T=
hursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> HealeyRick &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">healeyrik@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;<br><strong>Cc:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">It looks like the kit is designed to follow&nbsp;the D=
unlop/MWS recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a good p=
iece of kit.</span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Harold</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via=
 Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer nor=
eferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
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<blockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #cccccc 1.0pt; padding=
: 0in 0in 0in 6.0pt; margin: 5.0pt 0in 5.0pt 4.8pt;">
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">AH Spares just sent out this email about a wire wheel b=
alancer kit to mount the wheels on a modern balancing machine.&nbsp; What ar=
e your thoughts?&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-hea=
ley/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&a=
mp;utm_source=3Dnewsletter&amp;utm_medium=3Demail" rel=3D"noreferrer norefer=
rer">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-b=
alancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&amp;utm_source=3Dnewsletter&amp;utm=
_medium=3Demail</a></span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"</span></p>
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Not sure that that applies to all drums. The rear of my BN2 has drums which
has sections of the "balancing band" removed for balancing but the fronts
have no such band and are "were" out by about 2oz on the perimeter each.

M

On Fri., May 19, 2023, 1:58 p.m. Perry Small via Healeys, <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Listers
> If you look at the drums you will see areas that were ground off to
> balance the drums.
> I have given away all my spare parts so I do not have a good example to
> photograph.
> Perry
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 19, 2023, at 2:19 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> Good question Bob! I doubt they have done it and the cars were running
> anyway.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josef
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer
>
> Datum: 2023-05-19T07:56:40+0200
>
> Von: "Robert Parker via Healeys" <[email-masked]>
>
> An: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked]>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Has anyone bothered to check whether the factory ever balanced the drums
> or even worried about it? It=E2=80=99s not that I don=E2=80=99t care, it=
=E2=80=99s just I=E2=80=99d like to
> know if anyone has heard of that happening at the factory. Bob, 61BT7.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> With all this noise about balancing brake drums I thought I had better
> take a look at the ones on my BN2.
> I'm in the process if machining them back to  balance now.
> Bit of a task on my 12" lathe but it's happening.
>
> On Wed., May 17, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>> Don't grind it. Have it machined off.
>> Mike MacLean
>>
>> On Wed, May 17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard Kahn <[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hendrix welded more material to my drums as needed and it seems to have
>>> worked fine. I would not like grinding off material as it might affect =
the
>>> integrity of the drum by making it thinner, effecting the heat distribu=
tion
>>> and strength.  Just some rambling from someone who doesn't know what he=
 is
>>> talking about.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of
>>> [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 17, 2023 12:23 AM
>>> *To:* 'Michael MacLean' <[email-masked]>
>>> *Cc:* 'Healey List' <[email-masked]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike =E2=80=93 I would think that would be the likely explanation for h=
aving
>>> sections of the drum rim machined off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Al Fuller
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2023 2:47 PM
>>> *To:* [email-masked]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Al, list,
>>>
>>>      The drums for my BN2 has sections of the raised rim machined off.
>>> Does this mean my drums were balanced in the past?
>>>
>>> Mike MacLean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 16, 2023, 2:30 PM <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Bob:  If you are wondering about brake drum balancing methods, you may
>>> be interested in the two methods used on my Healeys.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One shop trimmed off the fins as needed to balance the drums, one
>>> needing more trimming than the other =E2=80=93 but they both came out w=
ell.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A different shop welded rod material onto my current BJ-8=E2=80=99s dru=
ms to
>>> balance them. I think these drums were more out of balance than on prio=
r
>>> cars. They were careful to call me ahead of the operation to ask how mu=
ch
>>> clearance I had between the wheel and drum, and I was able to take them=
 a
>>> wheel and hub so they could see how it all fit together.  The results a=
re
>>> just fine, also.
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Al Fuller
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Bob
>>> Haskell via Healeys
>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2023 2:36 PM
>>> *To:* Harold Manifold <[email-masked]>; Healey List <
>>> [email-masked]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harold,
>>>
>>> How did you balance the drums - add or remove material? Care to provide
>>> any details?
>>>
>>> Bob Haskell
>>>
>>> Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
>>>
>>> On 5/15/23 11:32, Harold Manifold wrote:
>>>
>>> Another consideration for balancing the rear tires is the brake drums. =
I
>>> have the original BMC brake drums and was surprised at how out of balan=
ce
>>> they were. I static balanced the brake drums to go with the
>>> separately balanced wheels and tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skuttl=
e
>>> shakes so far.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harold
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
>>>
>>> Here in Brisbane there=E2=80=99s at least one place (near me) that does=
 on-car
>>> balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a central hole, so c=
an=E2=80=99t be
>>> balanced on a regular machine. That said, the last set of Khumo Ecowing
>>> ES31s I bought are fine with no balancing!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter Linn
>>>
>>> Brisbane
>>>
>>> BN1 Holden V6
>>>
>>> MG TC special
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *m.g.sha=
rp---
>>> via Healeys
>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 PM
>>> *To:* 'Harold Manifold' <[email-masked]>; 'HealeyRick' <
>>> [email-masked]>
>>> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-off (spinner).  I
>>> had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure that it was true =
on
>>> the inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put a slight cham=
fer
>>> on the edges to provide better registration for the standard cones on a
>>> modern balancer.  Then we machined the centre out of the spinner so  th=
at
>>> when the wheel is mounted on the hub and the spinner is tightened, the
>>> outer cone on the balancer fits through it and registers on the hub.  T=
hat
>>> part is a little tricky as if you machine the hole too big, the spinner
>>> will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully!  Hub and spinner=
 was $25 at
>>> a swap meet and machining was $50.  I believe this adaptor will work on=
 any
>>> post-war wire wheels except the Jags, which had different hubs.  Worked=
 a
>>> treat on my TC wheels.  Healey is running vibration-free- so leaving it
>>> alone for now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinking it balanced th=
e
>>> drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you remembered to ma=
rk the
>>> position of the wheels when you took them off and did not rotate them (=
to a
>>> different position on the car)!  That is likely one reason  they are no=
t
>>> used anymore, because if your drums were out of balance and you added
>>> weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then every time you remove=
d
>>> the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, unless it went back in exac=
tly the same
>>> position.   Anyhow it=E2=80=99s a moot point as I have not seen an on-w=
heel
>>> balancer for decades.   I imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but =
when
>>> I balanced the drums on the TC  they were significantly off.  I hear
>>> balancing Healey drums brings good results, but never felt the need as =
my
>>> BT7 has always run pretty smooth.  If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants
>>> drums balanced, Garland and Sons in Scarborough did great work for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mirek
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Harold
>>> Manifold
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM
>>> *To:* HealeyRick <[email-masked]>
>>> *Cc:* Healeys <[email-masked]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It looks like the kit is designed to follow the Dunlop/MWS
>>> recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a good piece =
of
>>> kit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harold
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via Healeys <
>>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>>
>>> AH Spares just sent out this email about a wire wheel balancer kit to
>>> mount the wheels on a modern balancing machine.  What are your thoughts=
?
>>> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-b=
alancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=
=3Demail
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Not sure that that applies to all drums. The rear of my B=
N2 has drums which has sections of the &quot;balancing band&quot; removed f=
or balancing but the fronts have no such band and are &quot;were&quot; out =
by about 2oz on the perimeter each.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Fri., May 19, 2023, 1:58 p.m. Perry Small via Healeys, &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Listers=C2=
=A0<div>If you look at the drums you will see areas that were ground off to=
 balance the drums.=C2=A0<div>I have given away all my spare parts so I do =
not have a good example to photograph.=C2=A0</div><div>Perry</div><div><br>=
<br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite">On May 19, 2023, at 2:19 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<p style=3D"margin:0px"><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#0=
00000;text-decoration:none">Good question Bob! I doubt they have done it an=
d the cars were running anyway.<br></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Thanks,</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Josef</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wi=
re Wheel Balancer</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Datum: 2023-05-19T07:56:40+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Von: &quot;Robert Parker via Healeys&quot; &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">An: &quot;Michael Salter&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">michaelsalt=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
<div style=3D"color:#000000;font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Has anyon=
e bothered to check whether the factory ever balanced the drums or even wor=
ried about it? It=E2=80=99s not that I don=E2=80=99t care, it=E2=80=99s jus=
t I=E2=80=99d like to know if anyone has heard of that happening at the fac=
tory. Bob, 61BT7.<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote>On May 17, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"auto">With all this noise about balancing brake drums I thought=
 I had better take a look at the ones on my BN2.=C2=A0
<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;m in the process if machining them back to=C2=A0 ba=
lance now.=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Bit of a task on my 12&quot; lathe but it&#39;s happening=
.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed., May 17, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Mich=
ael MacLean via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto">Don&#39;t grind it. Have it machined off.
<div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, May 17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard=
 Kahn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer nore=
ferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:#000000">Hendrix welded more material to my drums as needed and it seems t=
o have worked fine. I would not like grinding off material as it might affe=
ct the integrity of the drum by making it thinner, effecting the heat distr=
ibution and strength.=C2=A0 Just some rambling from someone who doesn&#39;t=
 know what he is talking about.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:#000000">=C2=A0</div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:#000000;font-family:Ca=
libri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:heal=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of <a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@g=
mail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">alfull=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, May 17, 2023 1=
2:23 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> &#39;Michael MacLean&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>Cc:</strong> &=
#39;Healey List&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was=
 Wire Wheel Balancer</span>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Mike =
=E2=80=93 I would think that would be the likely explanation for having sec=
tions of the drum rim machined off.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">-----=
-----------</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">All t=
he best,</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Al Fu=
ller</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0</p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><stro=
ng>From:</strong> Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:springer.mike51@gma=
il.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">springer=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br><strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, May 16, 2023 =
2:47 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" re=
l=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">alfuller194@gmail.=
com</a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- wa=
s Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Al, l=
ist,=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The drums for my BN2 has sections of the raised rim machin=
ed off. Does this mean my drums were balanced in the past?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Mike =
MacLean</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Tu=
e, May 16, 2023, 2:30 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Bob:=
=C2=A0 If you are wondering about brake drum balancing methods, you may be =
interested in the two methods used on my Healeys.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">One s=
hop trimmed off the fins as needed to balance the drums, one needing more t=
rimming than the other =E2=80=93 but they both came out well.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">A dif=
ferent shop welded rod material onto my current BJ-8=E2=80=99s drums to bal=
ance them. I think these drums were more out of balance than on prior cars.=
 They were careful to call me ahead of the operation to ask how much cleara=
nce I had between the wheel and drum, and I was able to take them a wheel a=
nd hub so they could see how it all fit together.=C2=A0 The results are jus=
t fine, also.</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">-----=
-----------</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">All t=
he best,</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Al Fu=
ller</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0</p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><stro=
ng>From:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bou=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Bob Haskell via H=
ealeys<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, May 15, 2023 2:36 PM<br><strong>To=
:</strong> Harold Manifold &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D=
"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;; Healey List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">Harold,</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px">How did you balance the drums - add or remove mater=
ial? Care to provide any details?</p>
<pre>Bob Haskell</pre>
<pre>Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On 5/=
15/23 11:32, Harold Manifold wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Anoth=
er consideration for balancing the rear tires is the brake drums. I have th=
e original BMC brake drums and was surprised at how out of balance they wer=
e. I static balanced the brake drums to go with the separately=C2=A0balance=
d wheels and tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skuttle shakes so far.</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Harol=
d</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=
=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Mo=
n, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:greylinn@ozemail.=
com.au" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">greylinn=
@ozemail.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin:5.0pt 0in 5.0pt 4.8pt">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-AU">Here in Brisbane there=E2=80=99s at least one place (near m=
e) that does on-car balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a ce=
ntral hole, so can=E2=80=99t be balanced on a regular machine. That said, t=
he last set of Khumo Ecowing ES31s I bought are fine with no balancing!</sp=
an></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-AU">Peter Linn</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-AU">Brisbane</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-AU">BN1 Holden V6</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-AU">MG TC special</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><stro=
ng>From:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bou=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>m.g.sharp--- via =
Healeys<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 PM<br><strong>T=
o:</strong> &#39;Harold Manifold&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.=
net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">manifold@te=
lus.net</a>&gt;; &#39;HealeyRick&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail=
.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeyrik@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><strong>Cc:</strong> &#39;Healeys&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> =
Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-off (sp=
inner).=C2=A0 I had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure that =
it was true on the inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put a =
slight chamfer on the edges to provide better registration for the standard=
 cones on a modern balancer.=C2=A0 Then we machined the centre out of the s=
pinner so=C2=A0 that when the wheel is mounted on the hub and the spinner i=
s tightened, the outer cone on the balancer fits through it and registers o=
n the hub.=C2=A0 That part is a little tricky as if you machine the hole to=
o big, the spinner will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully!=
=C2=A0 Hub and spinner was $25 at a swap meet and machining was $50.=C2=A0 =
I believe this adaptor will work on any post-war wire wheels except the Jag=
s, which had different hubs.=C2=A0 Worked a treat on my TC wheels.=C2=A0 He=
aley is running vibration-free- so leaving it alone for now.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinking it=
 balanced the drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you rememb=
ered to mark the position of the wheels when you took them off and did not =
rotate them (to a different position on the car)!=C2=A0 That is likely one =
reason =C2=A0they are not used anymore, because if your drums were out of b=
alance and you added weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then ever=
y time you removed the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, unless it we=
nt back in exactly the same position. =C2=A0=C2=A0Anyhow it=E2=80=99s a moo=
t point as I have not seen an on-wheel balancer for decades. =C2=A0=C2=A0I =
imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but when I balanced the drums on t=
he TC=C2=A0 they were significantly off.=C2=A0 I hear balancing Healey drum=
s brings good results, but never felt the need as my BT7 has always run pre=
tty smooth.=C2=A0 If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants drums balanced, Garla=
nd and Sons in Scarborough did great work for me.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">Mirek</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0</span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><stro=
ng>From:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bou=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Harold Manifold<b=
r><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM<br><strong>To:</st=
rong> HealeyRick &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferr=
er noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=
<strong>Cc:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balanc=
er</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0</span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">It looks like the kit is designed to follow=C2=A0the Dunlop=
/MWS recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a good piece=
 of kit.</span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">Harold</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via Heal=
eys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefer=
rer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</sp=
an></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin:5.0pt 0in 5.0pt 4.8pt">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">AH Spares just sent out this email about a wire wheel balan=
cer kit to mount the wheels on a modern balancing machine.=C2=A0 What are y=
our thoughts?=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-heale=
y/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&am=
p;utm_source=3Dnewsletter&amp;utm_medium=3Demail" rel=3D"noreferrer norefer=
rer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/=
big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&amp;=
utm_source=3Dnewsletter&amp;utm_medium=3Demail</a></span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=A0</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-CA">Rick Neville aka &quot;HealeyRick&quot;</span></p>
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Here's a shot of removed metal on one of my BN2's drums (cut at about 9 
o'clock). This was done so cleanly I've always assumed it was done at 
the 'factory.'

On 5/19/2023 9:54 AM, Perry Small via Healeys wrote:
> I have given away all my spare parts so I do not have a good example 
> to photograph.
> Perry
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 19, 2023, at 2:19 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys 
>> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Good question Bob! I doubt they have done it and the cars were 
>> running anyway.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Josef
>>
>> Has anyone bothered to check whether the factory ever balanced the 
>> drums or even worried about it? It’s not that I don’t care, it’s just 
>> I’d like to know if anyone has heard of that happening at the 
>> factory. Bob, 61BT7.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>     On May 17, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys
>>     <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>     With all this noise about balancing brake drums I thought I had
>>     better take a look at the ones on my BN2.
>>     On Wed., May 17, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys,
>>     <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>         On Wed, May 17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard Kahn
>>         <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>             Hendrix welded more material to my drums as needed and it
>>             seems to have worked fine. I would not like grinding off
>>             material as it might affect the integrity of the drum by
>>             making it thinner, effecting the heat distribution and
>>             strength.  Just some rambling from someone who doesn't
>>             know what he is talking about.
>>             ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>             *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> on
>>             behalf of [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
>>             Mike – I would think that would be the likely explanation
>>             for having sections of the drum rim machined off.
>>
>>             ----------------
>>
>>             All the best,
>>
>>             Al Fuller
>>
>>                  The drums for my BN2 has sections of the raised rim
>>             machined off. Does this mean my drums were balanced in
>>             the past?
>>
>>             Mike MacLean
>>
>>                 Bob:  If you are wondering about brake drum balancing
>>                 methods, you may be interested in the two methods
>>                 used on my Healeys.
>>
>>                 One shop trimmed off the fins as needed to balance
>>                 the drums, one needing more trimming than the other –
>>                 but they both came out well.
>>
>>                 A different shop welded rod material onto my current
>>                 BJ-8’s drums to balance them. I think these drums
>>                 were more out of balance than on prior cars. They
>>                 were careful to call me ahead of the operation to ask
>>                 how much clearance I had between the wheel and drum,
>>                 and I was able to take them a wheel and hub so they
>>                 could see how it all fit together.  The results are
>>                 just fine, also.
>>
>>                 ----------------
>>
>>                 All the best,
>>
>>                 Al Fuller
>>
>>                 *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> *On
>>                 Behalf Of *Bob Haskell via Healeys
>>                 *To:* Harold Manifold <[email-masked]>; Healey
>>                 List <[email-masked]>
>>                 How did you balance the drums - add or remove
>>                 material? Care to provide any details?
>>
>>                 Bob Haskell
>>
>>                     Another consideration for balancing the rear
>>                     tires is the brake drums. I have the original BMC
>>                     brake drums and was surprised at how out of
>>                     balance they were. I static balanced the brake
>>                     drums to go with the separately balanced wheels
>>                     and tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skuttle
>>                     shakes so far.
>>
>>                     Harold
>>
>>                     On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34 AM
>>                     <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>                         Here in Brisbane there’s at least one place
>>                         (near me) that does on-car balancing. The
>>                         wheels on my 100 don’t have a central hole,
>>                         so can’t be balanced on a regular machine.
>>                         That said, the last set of Khumo Ecowing
>>                         *From:* Healeys
>>                         <[email-masked]> *On Behalf
>>                         Of *m.g.sharp--- via Healeys
>>                         *To:* 'Harold Manifold' <[email-masked]>;
>>                         'HealeyRick' <[email-masked]>
>>                         I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and
>>                         knock-off (spinner).  I had a machinist mount
>>                         the hub on the lathe and ensure that it was
>>                         true on the inside edges (where the bearings
>>                         fit) and had him put a slight chamfer on the
>>                         edges to provide better registration for the
>>                         standard cones on a modern balancer. Then we
>>                         machined the centre out of the spinner so 
>>                         that when the wheel is mounted on the hub and
>>                         the spinner is tightened, the outer cone on
>>                         the balancer fits through it and registers on
>>                         the hub.  That part is a little tricky as if
>>                         you machine the hole too big, the spinner
>>                         will end up in two pieces – measure
>>                         carefully! Hub and spinner was $25 at a swap
>>                         meet and machining was $50.  I believe this
>>                         adaptor will work on any post-war wire wheels
>>                         except the Jags, which had different hubs. 
>>                         Worked a treat on my TC wheels. Healey is
>>                         running vibration-free- so leaving it alone
>>                         for now.
>>
>>                         I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my
>>                         simple thinking it balanced the drum or disk
>>                         at the same time – as long as you remembered
>>                         to mark the position of the wheels when you
>>                         took them off and did not rotate them (to a
>>                         different position on the car)! That is
>>                         likely one reason  they are not used anymore,
>>                         because if your drums were out of balance and
>>                         you added weights to the wheel that balanced
>>                         them out, then every time you removed the
>>                         wheel, you’d loose the balance, unless it
>>                         went back in exactly the same position.
>>                           Anyhow it’s a moot point as I have not seen
>>                         an on-wheel balancer for decades.   I imagine
>>                         that disks run very true anyhow, but when I
>>                         balanced the drums on the TC  they were
>>                         significantly off.  I hear balancing Healey
>>                         drums brings good results, but never felt the
>>                         need as my BT7 has always run pretty smooth. 
>>                         If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants drums
>>                         balanced, Garland and Sons in Scarborough did
>>                         great work for me.
>>
>>                         Mirek
>>
>>                         *From:* Healeys
>>                         <[email-masked]> *On Behalf
>>                         Of *Harold Manifold
>>                         It looks like the kit is designed to
>>                         follow the Dunlop/MWS recommendations for
>>                         balancing. See attached. It should be a good
>>                         piece of kit.
>>
>>                         Harold
>>
>>                         On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28 AM HealeyRick
>>                         via Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>                             AH Spares just sent out this email about
>>                             a wire wheel balancer kit to mount the
>>                             wheels on a modern balancing machine. 
>>                             What are your thoughts?
>>                             https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=email-1st&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email
>>                             <https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=email-1st&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email>
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    Here's a shot of removed metal on one of my BN2's drums (cut at
    about 9 o'clock). This was done so cleanly I've always assumed it
    was done at the 'factory.'<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/19/2023 9:54 AM, Perry Small via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
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      <div>If you look at the drums you will see areas that were ground
        off to balance the drums. 
        <div>I have given away all my spare parts so I do not have a
          good example to photograph. </div>
        <div>Perry</div>
        <div><br>
          <br>
          <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
          <div dir="ltr"><br>
            <blockquote type="cite">On May 19, 2023, at 2:19 AM,
              josef-eckert--- via Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
              wrote:<br>
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              <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Good
                  question Bob! I doubt they have done it and the cars
                  were running anyway.<br>
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              <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Thanks,</span></p>
              <p style="margin: 0px;"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Josef</span></p>
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              <p style="margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum
                balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
              <p style="margin: 0px;">Datum: 2023-05-19T07:56:40+0200</p>
              <p style="margin: 0px;">Von: "Robert Parker via Healeys"
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a></p>
              <p style="margin: 0px;">An: "Michael Salter"
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a></p>
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              <div style="position: relative; color: #000000; font: 12px
                Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Has anyone bothered to
                check whether the factory ever balanced the drums or
                even worried about it? It’s not that I don’t care, it’s
                just I’d like to know if anyone has heard of that
                happening at the factory. Bob, 61BT7.<br>
                <br>
                <div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
                <div dir="ltr"><br>
                  <blockquote>On May 17, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Michael
                    Salter via Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
                    wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">
                    <div dir="auto">With all this noise about balancing
                      brake drums I thought I had better take a look at
                      the ones on my BN2. 
                      <div dir="auto">I'm in the process if machining
                        them back to  balance now. </div>
                      <div dir="auto">Bit of a task on my 12" lathe but
                        it's happening.</div>
                    </div>
                    <br>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">
                      <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed., May 17,
                        2023, 8:46 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys,
                        &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                        wrote:</div>
                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0
                        0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid;
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                        <div dir="auto">Don't grind it. Have it machined
                          off.
                          <div dir="auto">Mike MacLean</div>
                        </div>
                        <br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">
                          <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, May
                            17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard Kahn &lt;<a
                              href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                              rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                            wrote:</div>
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                            <div dir="ltr">
                              <div style="font-family:
                                Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
                                12pt; color: #000000;">Hendrix welded
                                more material to my drums as needed and
                                it seems to have worked fine. I would
                                not like grinding off material as it
                                might affect the integrity of the drum
                                by making it thinner, effecting the heat
                                distribution and strength.  Just some
                                rambling from someone who doesn't know
                                what he is talking about.</div>
                              <div> </div>
                              <div style="font-family:
                                Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
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                              <div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:
                                  11pt; color: #000000; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif;"><strong>From:</strong>
                                  Healeys &lt;<a
                                    href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                                  on behalf of <a
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                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>
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                                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                                  <strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, May
                                  17, 2023 12:23 AM<br>
                                  <strong>To:</strong> 'Michael MacLean'
                                  &lt;<a
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                                  <strong>Cc:</strong> 'Healey List'
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                                  <strong>Subject:</strong> Re:
                                  [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was
                                  Wire Wheel Balancer</span>
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                                  <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
                                    11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                    sans-serif;">Mike – I would think
                                    that would be the likely explanation
                                    for having sections of the drum rim
                                    machined off.</p>
                                  <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
                                    11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                    sans-serif;"> </p>
                                  <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
                                    11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                    sans-serif;">----------------</p>
                                  <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
                                    11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                    sans-serif;">All the best,</p>
                                  <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
                                    11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                    sans-serif;"> </p>
                                  <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
                                    11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                    sans-serif;">Al Fuller</p>
                                  <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
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                                    sans-serif;"> </p>
                                  <div style="border: none; border-top:
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                                    <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
                                      11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                      sans-serif;"><strong>From:</strong>
                                      Michael MacLean &lt;<a
                                        href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                        rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                                      <br>
                                      <strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday,
                                      May 16, 2023 2:47 PM<br>
                                      <strong>To:</strong> <a
                                        href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                        rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a><br>
                                      <strong>Subject:</strong> Re:
                                      [Healeys] Brake Drum balance --
                                      was Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
                                  </div>
                                  <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
                                    11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                    sans-serif;"> </p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
                                      11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                      sans-serif;">Al, list, </p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
                                        11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                        sans-serif;">     The drums for
                                        my BN2 has sections of the
                                        raised rim machined off. Does
                                        this mean my drums were balanced
                                        in the past?</p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
                                        11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                        sans-serif;">Mike MacLean</p>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
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                                    sans-serif;"> </p>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p style="margin: 0px; font-size:
                                        11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                        sans-serif;">On Tue, May 16,
                                        2023, 2:30 PM &lt;<a
                                          href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                          rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                                        wrote:</p>
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                                        <div>
                                          <p style="margin: 0px;
                                            font-size: 11pt;
                                            font-family: Calibri,
                                            sans-serif;">Bob:  If you
                                            are wondering about brake
                                            drum balancing methods, you
                                            may be interested in the two
                                            methods used on my Healeys.</p>
                                          <p style="margin: 0px;
                                            font-size: 11pt;
                                            font-family: Calibri,
                                            sans-serif;"> </p>
                                          <p style="margin: 0px;
                                            font-size: 11pt;
                                            font-family: Calibri,
                                            sans-serif;">One shop
                                            trimmed off the fins as
                                            needed to balance the drums,
                                            one needing more trimming
                                            than the other – but they
                                            both came out well.</p>
                                          <p style="margin: 0px;
                                            font-size: 11pt;
                                            font-family: Calibri,
                                            sans-serif;"> </p>
                                          <p style="margin: 0px;
                                            font-size: 11pt;
                                            font-family: Calibri,
                                            sans-serif;">A different
                                            shop welded rod material
                                            onto my current BJ-8’s drums
                                            to balance them. I think
                                            these drums were more out of
                                            balance than on prior cars.
                                            They were careful to call me
                                            ahead of the operation to
                                            ask how much clearance I had
                                            between the wheel and drum,
                                            and I was able to take them
                                            a wheel and hub so they
                                            could see how it all fit
                                            together.  The results are
                                            just fine, also.</p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p style="margin: 0px;
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                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;">----------------</p>
                                            <p style="margin: 0px;
                                              font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;">All the best,</p>
                                            <p style="margin: 0px;
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                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;"> </p>
                                            <p style="margin: 0px;
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                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;">Al Fuller</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <p style="margin: 0px;
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                                            sans-serif;"> </p>
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                                              <p style="margin: 0px;
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                                                font-family: Calibri,
                                                sans-serif;"><strong>From:</strong>
                                                Healeys &lt;<a
                                                  href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                                  rel="noreferrer
                                                  noreferrer"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <strong>On
                                                  Behalf Of </strong>Bob
                                                Haskell via Healeys<br>
                                                <strong>Sent:</strong>
                                                Monday, May 15, 2023
                                                2:36 PM<br>
                                                <strong>To:</strong>
                                                Harold Manifold &lt;<a
                                                  href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                                  rel="noreferrer
                                                  noreferrer"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; Healey List
                                                &lt;<a
                                                  href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                                  rel="noreferrer
                                                  noreferrer"
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                                                <strong>Subject:</strong>
                                                Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel
                                                Balancer</p>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                          <p style="margin: 0px;
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                                            sans-serif;"> </p>
                                          <p style="margin: 0px;">Harold,</p>
                                          <p style="margin: 0px;">How
                                            did you balance the drums -
                                            add or remove material? Care
                                            to provide any details?</p>
                                          <pre style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;">Bob Haskell</pre>
                                          <pre style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;">Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
                                          <div>
                                            <p style="margin: 0px;
                                              font-size: 11pt;
                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;">On 5/15/23
                                              11:32, Harold Manifold
                                              wrote:</p>
                                          </div>
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                                            <div>
                                              <p style="margin: 0px;
                                                font-size: 11pt;
                                                font-family: Calibri,
                                                sans-serif;">Another
                                                consideration for
                                                balancing the rear tires
                                                is the brake drums. I
                                                have the original BMC
                                                brake drums and was
                                                surprised at how out of
                                                balance they were. I
                                                static balanced the
                                                brake drums to go with
                                                the separately balanced
                                                wheels and tires. No
                                                vibrations, shimmies or
                                                skuttle shakes so far.</p>
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                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p style="margin: 0px;
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                                                  font-family: Calibri,
                                                  sans-serif;">Harold</p>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <p style="margin: 0px;
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                                              font-family: Calibri,
                                              sans-serif;"> </p>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p style="margin: 0px;
                                                  font-size: 11pt;
                                                  font-family: Calibri,
                                                  sans-serif;">On Mon,
                                                  May 15, 2023 at
                                                  12:34 AM &lt;<a
                                                    href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                                                    rel="noreferrer
                                                    noreferrer"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
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                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p style="margin:
                                                        0px; font-size:
                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-AU">Here
                                                          in Brisbane
                                                          there’s at
                                                          least one
                                                          place (near
                                                          me) that does
                                                          on-car
                                                          balancing. The
                                                          wheels on my
                                                          100 don’t have
                                                          a central
                                                          hole, so can’t
                                                          be balanced on
                                                          a regular
                                                          machine. That
                                                          said, the last
                                                          set of Khumo
                                                          Ecowing ES31s
                                                          I bought are
                                                          fine with no
                                                          balancing!</span></p>
                                                      <p style="margin:
                                                        0px; font-size:
                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                                      <p style="margin:
                                                        0px; font-size:
                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-AU">Peter
                                                          Linn</span></p>
                                                      <p style="margin:
                                                        0px; font-size:
                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-AU">Brisbane</span></p>
                                                      <p style="margin:
                                                        0px; font-size:
                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-AU">BN1
                                                          Holden V6</span></p>
                                                      <p style="margin:
                                                        0px; font-size:
                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-AU">MG
                                                          TC special</span></p>
                                                      <p style="margin:
                                                        0px; font-size:
                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div
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                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin:
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                                                          11pt;
                                                          font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;"><strong>From:</strong>
                                                          Healeys &lt;<a
href="mailto:[email-masked]" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                                                          <strong>On
                                                          Behalf Of </strong>m.g.sharp---
                                                          via Healeys<br>
                                                          <strong>Sent:</strong>
                                                          Monday, May
                                                          15, 2023 1:07
                                                          PM<br>
                                                          <strong>To:</strong>
                                                          'Harold
                                                          Manifold' &lt;<a
href="mailto:[email-masked]" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 'HealeyRick'
                                                          &lt;<a
                                                          href="mailto:[email-masked]"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          <strong>Cc:</strong>
                                                          'Healeys' &lt;<a
href="mailto:[email-masked]" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          <strong>Subject:</strong>
                                                          Re: [Healeys]
                                                          Wire Wheel
                                                          Balancer</p>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p style="margin:
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                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                                      <p style="margin:
                                                        0px; font-size:
                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-CA">I
                                                          made up my own
                                                          adaptor using
                                                          a used hub and
                                                          knock-off
                                                          (spinner).  I
                                                          had a
                                                          machinist
                                                          mount the hub
                                                          on the lathe
                                                          and ensure
                                                          that it was
                                                          true on the
                                                          inside edges
                                                          (where the
                                                          bearings fit)
                                                          and had him
                                                          put a slight
                                                          chamfer on the
                                                          edges to
                                                          provide better
                                                          registration
                                                          for the
                                                          standard cones
                                                          on a modern
                                                          balancer. 
                                                          Then we
                                                          machined the
                                                          centre out of
                                                          the spinner
                                                          so  that when
                                                          the wheel is
                                                          mounted on the
                                                          hub and the
                                                          spinner is
                                                          tightened, the
                                                          outer cone on
                                                          the balancer
                                                          fits through
                                                          it and
                                                          registers on
                                                          the hub.  That
                                                          part is a
                                                          little tricky
                                                          as if you
                                                          machine the
                                                          hole too big,
                                                          the spinner
                                                          will end up in
                                                          two pieces –
                                                          measure
                                                          carefully! 
                                                          Hub and
                                                          spinner was
                                                          $25 at a swap
                                                          meet and
                                                          machining was
                                                          $50.  I
                                                          believe this
                                                          adaptor will
                                                          work on any
                                                          post-war wire
                                                          wheels except
                                                          the Jags,
                                                          which had
                                                          different
                                                          hubs.  Worked
                                                          a treat on my
                                                          TC wheels. 
                                                          Healey is
                                                          running
                                                          vibration-free-
                                                          so leaving it
                                                          alone for now.</span></p>
                                                      <p style="margin:
                                                        0px; font-size:
                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-CA"> </span></p>
                                                      <p style="margin:
                                                        0px; font-size:
                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-CA">I
                                                          too liked
                                                          on-wheel
                                                          balancing and
                                                          in my simple
                                                          thinking it
                                                          balanced the
                                                          drum or disk
                                                          at the same
                                                          time – as long
                                                          as you
                                                          remembered to
                                                          mark the
                                                          position of
                                                          the wheels
                                                          when you took
                                                          them off and
                                                          did not rotate
                                                          them (to a
                                                          different
                                                          position on
                                                          the car)! 
                                                          That is likely
                                                          one reason
                                                           they are not
                                                          used anymore,
                                                          because if
                                                          your drums
                                                          were out of
                                                          balance and
                                                          you added
                                                          weights to the
                                                          wheel that
                                                          balanced them
                                                          out, then
                                                          every time you
                                                          removed the
                                                          wheel, you’d
                                                          loose the
                                                          balance,
                                                          unless it went
                                                          back in
                                                          exactly the
                                                          same position.
                                                            Anyhow it’s
                                                          a moot point
                                                          as I have not
                                                          seen an
                                                          on-wheel
                                                          balancer for
                                                          decades.   I
                                                          imagine that
                                                          disks run very
                                                          true anyhow,
                                                          but when I
                                                          balanced the
                                                          drums on the
                                                          TC  they were
                                                          significantly
                                                          off.  I hear
                                                          balancing
                                                          Healey drums
                                                          brings good
                                                          results, but
                                                          never felt the
                                                          need as my BT7
                                                          has always run
                                                          pretty
                                                          smooth.  If
                                                          anyone in
                                                          Ontario
                                                          (Canada) wants
                                                          drums
                                                          balanced,
                                                          Garland and
                                                          Sons in
                                                          Scarborough
                                                          did great work
                                                          for me.</span></p>
                                                      <p style="margin:
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                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-CA"> </span></p>
                                                      <p style="margin:
                                                        0px; font-size:
                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-CA">Mirek</span></p>
                                                      <p style="margin:
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                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-CA"> </span></p>
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                                                        <p
                                                          style="margin:
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                                                          11pt;
                                                          font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;"><strong>From:</strong>
                                                          Healeys &lt;<a
href="mailto:[email-masked]" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                                                          <strong>On
                                                          Behalf Of </strong>Harold
                                                          Manifold<br>
                                                          <strong>Sent:</strong>
                                                          Thursday, May
                                                          11, 2023 11:35
                                                          AM<br>
                                                          <strong>To:</strong>
                                                          HealeyRick
                                                          &lt;<a
                                                          href="mailto:[email-masked]"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          <strong>Cc:</strong>
                                                          Healeys &lt;<a
href="mailto:[email-masked]" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          <strong>Subject:</strong>
                                                          Re: [Healeys]
                                                          Wire Wheel
                                                          Balancer</p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p style="margin:
                                                        0px; font-size:
                                                        11pt;
                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-CA"> </span></p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          style="margin:
                                                          0px;
                                                          font-size:
                                                          11pt;
                                                          font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-CA">It
                                                          looks like the
                                                          kit is
                                                          designed to
                                                          follow the
                                                          Dunlop/MWS
                                                          recommendations
                                                          for balancing.
                                                          See attached.
                                                          It should be a
                                                          good piece of
                                                          kit.</span></p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin:
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                                                          sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-CA"> </span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin:
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                                                          font-size:
                                                          11pt;
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                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-CA">Harold</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p style="margin:
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                                                        font-family:
                                                        Calibri,
                                                        sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-CA"> </span></p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin:
                                                          0px;
                                                          font-size:
                                                          11pt;
                                                          font-family:
                                                          Calibri,
                                                          sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-CA">On
                                                          Thu, May 11,
                                                          2023 at
                                                          8:28 AM
                                                          HealeyRick via
                                                          Healeys &lt;<a
href="mailto:[email-masked]" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
                                                        </div>
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                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin:
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                                                          sans-serif;"><span
                                                          lang="EN-CA">AH
                                                          Spares just
                                                          sent out this
                                                          email about a
                                                          wire wheel
                                                          balancer kit
                                                          to mount the
                                                          wheels on a
                                                          modern
                                                          balancing
                                                          machine.  What
                                                          are your
                                                          thoughts?  <a
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Yes the rears of my BN2 are done the same way and when I checked them they
were each within 1 oz.
Not so much the fronts which were out by more than 2 oz which was
attributable to an inconsistency in the cross section of that inner rib.
I tried machining it to correct this but it is extremely hard so I used a
grinder to remove material from the inside of the rib which has worked well
and is not visible when the drum and wheel are installed.

M

On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 11:26=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:small">Yes the rears of my BN2 are done the same way and=
 when I checked them they were each within 1 oz.</div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Not so much =
the fronts which were out by more than 2 oz which was attributable to an in=
consistency in the cross section of that inner rib. <br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I tr=
ied machining it to correct this but it is extremely hard so I used a grind=
er to remove material from the inside of the rib which has worked well and =
is not visible when the drum and wheel are installed.</div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-=
size:small">M<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 11:26=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    Here&#39;s a shot of removed metal on one of my BN2&#39;s drums (cut at
    about 9 o&#39;clock). This was done so cleanly I&#39;ve always assumed =
it
    was done at the &#39;factory.&#39;<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 5/19/2023 9:54 AM, Perry Small via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      Listers=C2=A0
      <div>If you look at the drums you will see areas that were ground
        off to balance the drums.=C2=A0
        <div>I have given away all my spare parts so I do not have a
          good example to photograph.=C2=A0</div>
        <div>Perry</div>
        <div><br>
          <br>
          <div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
          <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
            <blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 19, 2023, at 2:19 AM,
              josef-eckert--- via Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
              wrote:<br>
              <br>
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          </div>
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            <div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
             =20
             =20
              <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Good
                  question Bob! I doubt they have done it and the cars
                  were running anyway.<br>
                </span></p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Than=
ks,</span></p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Jose=
f</span></p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum
                balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">Datum: 2023-05-19T07:56:40+0200</p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">Von: &quot;Robert Parker via Healeys&=
quot;
                <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a></p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">An: &quot;Michael Salter&quot;
                <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a></p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
              <div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font:12px Arial,Helvetica,sans=
-serif">Has anyone bothered to
                check whether the factory ever balanced the drums or
                even worried about it? It=E2=80=99s not that I don=E2=80=99=
t care, it=E2=80=99s
                just I=E2=80=99d like to know if anyone has heard of that
                happening at the factory. Bob, 61BT7.<br>
                <br>
                <div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
                <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
                  <blockquote>On May 17, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Michael
                    Salter via Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net" target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
                    wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir=3D"ltr">
                    <div dir=3D"auto">With all this noise about balancing
                      brake drums I thought I had better take a look at
                      the ones on my BN2.=C2=A0
                      <div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;m in the process if machining
                        them back to=C2=A0 balance now.=C2=A0</div>
                      <div dir=3D"auto">Bit of a task on my 12&quot; lathe =
but
                        it&#39;s happening.</div>
                    </div>
                    <br>
                    <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                      <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed., May 17=
,
                        2023, 8:46 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys,
                        &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                        wrote:</div>
                      <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                        <div dir=3D"auto">Don&#39;t grind it. Have it machi=
ned
                          off.
                          <div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div>
                        </div>
                        <br>
                        <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                          <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, May
                            17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard Kahn &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tahoehe=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                            wrote:</div>
                          <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
                            <div dir=3D"ltr">
                              <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Hendrix welded
                                more material to my drums as needed and
                                it seems to have worked fine. I would
                                not like grinding off material as it
                                might affect the integrity of the drum
                                by making it thinner, effecting the heat
                                distribution and strength.=C2=A0 Just some
                                rambling from someone who doesn&#39;t know
                                what he is talking about.</div>
                              <div>=C2=A0</div>
                              <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">=C2=A0</div>
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t;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong>
                                  Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bou=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healey=
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                                  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;<br>
                                  <strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, May
                                  17, 2023 12:23 AM<br>
                                  <strong>To:</strong> &#39;Michael MacLean=
&#39;
                                  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:springer.mike51@gma=
il.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">springer.mike51@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                  <strong>Cc:</strong> &#39;Healey List&#39=
;
                                  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt;<br>
                                  <strong>Subject:</strong> Re:
                                  [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was
                                  Wire Wheel Balancer</span>
                                <div>=C2=A0</div>
                              </div>
                              <div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;" lan=
g=3D"EN-US">
                                <div>
                                  <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Mike =E2=80=93 I would think
                                    that would be the likely explanation
                                    for having sections of the drum rim
                                    machined off.</p>
                                  <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
                                  <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">----------------</p>
                                  <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">All the best,</p>
                                  <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
                                  <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Al Fuller</p>
                                  <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
                                  <div style=3D"border-color:rgb(225,225,22=
5) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt =
medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
                                    <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;f=
ont-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong>
                                      Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                                      <br>
                                      <strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday,
                                      May 16, 2023 2:47 PM<br>
                                      <strong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">al=
[email-masked]</a><br>
                                      <strong>Subject:</strong> Re:
                                      [Healeys] Brake Drum balance --
                                      was Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
                                  </div>
                                  <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;f=
ont-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Al, list,=C2=A0</p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt=
;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The drums for
                                        my BN2 has sections of the
                                        raised rim machined off. Does
                                        this mean my drums were balanced
                                        in the past?</p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt=
;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Mike MacLean</p>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:11pt=
;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Tue, May 16,
                                        2023, 2:30 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">alf=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                                        wrote:</p>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote style=3D"border-color:curre=
ntcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none n=
one solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;mar=
gin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Bob:=C2=A0 If you
                                            are wondering about brake
                                            drum balancing methods, you
                                            may be interested in the two
                                            methods used on my Healeys.</p>
                                          <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
                                          <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">One shop
                                            trimmed off the fins as
                                            needed to balance the drums,
                                            one needing more trimming
                                            than the other =E2=80=93 but th=
ey
                                            both came out well.</p>
                                          <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
                                          <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">A different
                                            shop welded rod material
                                            onto my current BJ-8=E2=80=99s =
drums
                                            to balance them. I think
                                            these drums were more out of
                                            balance than on prior cars.
                                            They were careful to call me
                                            ahead of the operation to
                                            ask how much clearance I had
                                            between the wheel and drum,
                                            and I was able to take them
                                            a wheel and hub so they
                                            could see how it all fit
                                            together.=C2=A0 The results are
                                            just fine, also.</p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">----------------</p>
                                            <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">All the best,</p>
                                            <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
                                            <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Al Fuller</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
                                          <div>
                                            <div style=3D"border-color:rgb(=
225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-=
width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
                                              <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-s=
ize:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong>
                                                Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer
                                                  noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <strong>On
                                                  Behalf Of </strong>Bob
                                                Haskell via Healeys<br>
                                                <strong>Sent:</strong>
                                                Monday, May 15, 2023
                                                2:36 PM<br>
                                                <strong>To:</strong>
                                                Harold Manifold &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer
                                                  noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; Healey List
                                                &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:heale=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer
                                                  noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                                                <strong>Subject:</strong>
                                                Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel
                                                Balancer</p>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                          <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
                                          <p style=3D"margin:0px">Harold,</=
p>
                                          <p style=3D"margin:0px">How
                                            did you balance the drums -
                                            add or remove material? Care
                                            to provide any details?</p>
                                          <pre>Bob Haskell</pre>
                                          <pre>Austin-Healey 3000 roadster =
registrar</pre>
                                          <div>
                                            <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On 5/15/23
                                              11:32, Harold Manifold
                                              wrote:</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5=
pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
                                            <div>
                                              <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-s=
ize:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Another
                                                consideration for
                                                balancing the rear tires
                                                is the brake drums. I
                                                have the original BMC
                                                brake drums and was
                                                surprised at how out of
                                                balance they were. I
                                                static balanced the
                                                brake drums to go with
                                                the separately=C2=A0balance=
d
                                                wheels and tires. No
                                                vibrations, shimmies or
                                                skuttle shakes so far.</p>
                                              <div>
                                                <p style=3D"margin:0px;font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p style=3D"margin:0px;font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Harold</p>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <p style=3D"margin:0px;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0</p>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p style=3D"margin:0px;font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Mon,
                                                  May 15, 2023 at
                                                  12:34=E2=80=AFAM &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer
                                                    noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
                                              </div>
                                              <blockquote style=3D"border-c=
olor:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:n=
one none none solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0=
in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt">
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Here
                                                          in Brisbane
                                                          there=E2=80=99s a=
t
                                                          least one
                                                          place (near
                                                          me) that does
                                                          on-car
                                                          balancing. The
                                                          wheels on my
                                                          100 don=E2=80=99t=
 have
                                                          a central
                                                          hole, so can=E2=
=80=99t
                                                          be balanced on
                                                          a regular
                                                          machine. That
                                                          said, the last
                                                          set of Khumo
                                                          Ecowing ES31s
                                                          I bought are
                                                          fine with no
                                                          balancing!</span>=
</p>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Peter
                                                          Linn</span></p>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Brisb=
ane</span></p>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">BN1
                                                          Holden V6</span><=
/p>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">MG
                                                          TC special</span>=
</p>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div style=3D"borde=
r-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none =
none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
                                                          <p style=3D"margi=
n:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong>
                                                          Healeys &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                                                          <strong>On
                                                          Behalf Of </stron=
g>m.g.sharp---
                                                          via Healeys<br>
                                                          <strong>Sent:</st=
rong>
                                                          Monday, May
                                                          15, 2023 1:07
                                                          PM<br>
                                                          <strong>To:</stro=
ng>
                                                          &#39;Harold
                                                          Manifold&#39; &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; &#39;HealeyRick&#39;
                                                          &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">h=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          <strong>Cc:</stro=
ng>
                                                          &#39;Healeys&#39;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          <strong>Subject:<=
/strong>
                                                          Re: [Healeys]
                                                          Wire Wheel
                                                          Balancer</p>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I
                                                          made up my own
                                                          adaptor using
                                                          a used hub and
                                                          knock-off
                                                          (spinner).=C2=A0 =
I
                                                          had a
                                                          machinist
                                                          mount the hub
                                                          on the lathe
                                                          and ensure
                                                          that it was
                                                          true on the
                                                          inside edges
                                                          (where the
                                                          bearings fit)
                                                          and had him
                                                          put a slight
                                                          chamfer on the
                                                          edges to
                                                          provide better
                                                          registration
                                                          for the
                                                          standard cones
                                                          on a modern
                                                          balancer.=C2=A0
                                                          Then we
                                                          machined the
                                                          centre out of
                                                          the spinner
                                                          so=C2=A0 that whe=
n
                                                          the wheel is
                                                          mounted on the
                                                          hub and the
                                                          spinner is
                                                          tightened, the
                                                          outer cone on
                                                          the balancer
                                                          fits through
                                                          it and
                                                          registers on
                                                          the hub.=C2=A0 Th=
at
                                                          part is a
                                                          little tricky
                                                          as if you
                                                          machine the
                                                          hole too big,
                                                          the spinner
                                                          will end up in
                                                          two pieces =E2=80=
=93
                                                          measure
                                                          carefully!=C2=A0
                                                          Hub and
                                                          spinner was
                                                          $25 at a swap
                                                          meet and
                                                          machining was
                                                          $50.=C2=A0 I
                                                          believe this
                                                          adaptor will
                                                          work on any
                                                          post-war wire
                                                          wheels except
                                                          the Jags,
                                                          which had
                                                          different
                                                          hubs.=C2=A0 Worke=
d
                                                          a treat on my
                                                          TC wheels.=C2=A0
                                                          Healey is
                                                          running
                                                          vibration-free-
                                                          so leaving it
                                                          alone for now.</s=
pan></p>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I
                                                          too liked
                                                          on-wheel
                                                          balancing and
                                                          in my simple
                                                          thinking it
                                                          balanced the
                                                          drum or disk
                                                          at the same
                                                          time =E2=80=93 as=
 long
                                                          as you
                                                          remembered to
                                                          mark the
                                                          position of
                                                          the wheels
                                                          when you took
                                                          them off and
                                                          did not rotate
                                                          them (to a
                                                          different
                                                          position on
                                                          the car)!=C2=A0
                                                          That is likely
                                                          one reason
                                                          =C2=A0they are no=
t
                                                          used anymore,
                                                          because if
                                                          your drums
                                                          were out of
                                                          balance and
                                                          you added
                                                          weights to the
                                                          wheel that
                                                          balanced them
                                                          out, then
                                                          every time you
                                                          removed the
                                                          wheel, you=E2=80=
=99d
                                                          loose the
                                                          balance,
                                                          unless it went
                                                          back in
                                                          exactly the
                                                          same position.
                                                          =C2=A0=C2=A0Anyho=
w it=E2=80=99s
                                                          a moot point
                                                          as I have not
                                                          seen an
                                                          on-wheel
                                                          balancer for
                                                          decades. =C2=A0=
=C2=A0I
                                                          imagine that
                                                          disks run very
                                                          true anyhow,
                                                          but when I
                                                          balanced the
                                                          drums on the
                                                          TC=C2=A0 they wer=
e
                                                          significantly
                                                          off.=C2=A0 I hear
                                                          balancing
                                                          Healey drums
                                                          brings good
                                                          results, but
                                                          never felt the
                                                          need as my BT7
                                                          has always run
                                                          pretty
                                                          smooth.=C2=A0 If
                                                          anyone in
                                                          Ontario
                                                          (Canada) wants
                                                          drums
                                                          balanced,
                                                          Garland and
                                                          Sons in
                                                          Scarborough
                                                          did great work
                                                          for me.</span></p=
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Mirek=
</span></p>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
                                                      <div style=3D"border-=
color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none no=
ne;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
                                                        <p style=3D"margin:=
0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong>
                                                          Healeys &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                                                          <strong>On
                                                          Behalf Of </stron=
g>Harold
                                                          Manifold<br>
                                                          <strong>Sent:</st=
rong>
                                                          Thursday, May
                                                          11, 2023 11:35
                                                          AM<br>
                                                          <strong>To:</stro=
ng>
                                                          HealeyRick
                                                          &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">h=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          <strong>Cc:</stro=
ng>
                                                          Healeys &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          <strong>Subject:<=
/strong>
                                                          Re: [Healeys]
                                                          Wire Wheel
                                                          Balancer</p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p style=3D"margin:=
0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">It
                                                          looks like the
                                                          kit is
                                                          designed to
                                                          follow=C2=A0the
                                                          Dunlop/MWS
                                                          recommendations
                                                          for balancing.
                                                          See attached.
                                                          It should be a
                                                          good piece of
                                                          kit.</span></p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p style=3D"margi=
n:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=
=C2=A0</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p style=3D"margi=
n:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">H=
arold</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p style=3D"margin:0p=
x;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p style=3D"margi=
n:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">O=
n
                                                          Thu, May 11,
                                                          2023 at
                                                          8:28=E2=80=AFAM
                                                          HealeyRick via
                                                          Healeys &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <blockquote style=
=3D"border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);bo=
rder-style:none none none solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;paddi=
ng:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p style=3D"margi=
n:0px;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">A=
H
                                                          Spares just
                                                          sent out this
                                                          email about a
                                                          wire wheel
                                                          balancer kit
                                                          to mount the
                                                          wheels on a
                                                          modern
                                                          balancing
                                                          machine.=C2=A0 Wh=
at
                                                          are your
                                                          thoughts?=C2=A0=
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Hello,

It seems like there is some interest in balancing brake drums and I can add
a little more from my experience. My two original 1960 brake drums looked
identical and had no signs of factory balancing. One drum needed 34 grams
of weight but the other drum needed 94 grams despite both looking identical=
.

The 34 gram drum was easily balanced by adding a length of 1/4" dia lead
behind the rib with JB Weld. The 94 gram drum was a problem as it required
too much lead positioned too far away from the light spot. I ended up
adding lead to one side and removing part of the rib from the opposite
side. Based on my experience I will suggest if the weight needed is greater
than 50 grams then it is best to both add weight and remove part of the rib=
.

My tires were balanced off the car and I have no shakes or vibrations.

Harold

On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 8:29=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> =

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>It seems like there is some inte=
rest in balancing brake drums and I can add a little more from my experienc=
e. My two original 1960 brake drums looked identical and had no signs of fa=
ctory balancing. One drum needed 34 grams of weight but the other drum need=
ed 94 grams despite both looking identical.</div><div><br></div><div>The 34=
 gram drum was easily balanced by adding a length of 1/4&quot; dia lead beh=
ind the rib with JB Weld. The 94 gram drum was a problem as it required too=
 much lead positioned too far away from the light spot. I ended up adding l=
ead to one side and removing part of the rib from the opposite side. Based =
on my experience I will suggest if the weight needed is greater than 50 gra=
ms then it is best to both add weight and remove part of the rib.</div><div=
><br></div><div>My tires were balanced off=C2=A0the=C2=A0car and I have no =
shakes=C2=A0or vibrations.</div><div><br></div><div>Harold</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May=
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Exactly the same ridge machined off my rear drums.  Not to worry about the
fronts though as I have converted to disc.
Mike MacLean

On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 10:51=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmai=
l.com>
wrote:

> Yes the rears of my BN2 are done the same way and when I checked them the=
y
> grinder to remove material from the inside of the rib which has worked we=
ll
> On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 11:26=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:
>> o'clock). This was done so cleanly I've always assumed it was done at th=
e
>>>> Hendrix welded more material to my drums as needed and it seems to hav=
e
>>>> worked fine. I would not like grinding off material as it might affect=
 the
>>>> integrity of the drum by making it thinner, effecting the heat distrib=
ution
>>>> and strength.  Just some rambling from someone who doesn't know what h=
e is
>>>> Mike =E2=80=93 I would think that would be the likely explanation for =
having
>>>> needing more trimming than the other =E2=80=93 but they both came out =
well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A different shop welded rod material onto my current BJ-8=E2=80=99s dr=
ums to
>>>> balance them. I think these drums were more out of balance than on pri=
or
>>>> cars. They were careful to call me ahead of the operation to ask how m=
uch
>>>> clearance I had between the wheel and drum, and I was able to take the=
m a
>>>> wheel and hub so they could see how it all fit together.  The results =
are
>>>> How did you balance the drums - add or remove material? Care to provid=
e
>>>> Another consideration for balancing the rear tires is the brake drums.
>>>> I have the original BMC brake drums and was surprised at how out of ba=
lance
>>>> separately balanced wheels and tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skutt=
le
>>>> shakes so far.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Harold
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
>>>>
>>>> Here in Brisbane there=E2=80=99s at least one place (near me) that doe=
s on-car
>>>> balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a central hole, so =
can=E2=80=99t be
>>>> balanced on a regular machine. That said, the last set of Khumo Ecowin=
g
>>>> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *m.g.sh=
arp---
>>>> had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure that it was true=
 on
>>>> the inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put a slight cha=
mfer
>>>> on the edges to provide better registration for the standard cones on =
a
>>>> modern balancer.  Then we machined the centre out of the spinner so  t=
hat
>>>> outer cone on the balancer fits through it and registers on the hub.  =
That
>>>> part is a little tricky as if you machine the hole too big, the spinne=
r
>>>> will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully!  Hub and spinne=
r was $25 at
>>>> a swap meet and machining was $50.  I believe this adaptor will work o=
n any
>>>> post-war wire wheels except the Jags, which had different hubs.  Worke=
d a
>>>> treat on my TC wheels.  Healey is running vibration-free- so leaving i=
t
>>>> alone for now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinking it balanced
>>>> the drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you remembered =
to mark the
>>>> position of the wheels when you took them off and did not rotate them =
(to a
>>>> different position on the car)!  That is likely one reason  they are n=
ot
>>>> weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then every time you remov=
ed
>>>> the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, unless it went back in exa=
ctly the same
>>>> position.   Anyhow it=E2=80=99s a moot point as I have not seen an on-=
wheel
>>>> balancer for decades.   I imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but=
 when
>>>> balancing Healey drums brings good results, but never felt the need as=
 my
>>>> recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a good piece=
 of
>>>> mount the wheels on a modern balancing machine.  What are your thought=
s?
>>>> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-=
balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_mediu=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Exactly the same ridge machined off my rear drums.=C2=
=A0 Not to worry about the fronts though as I have converted to disc.</div>=
<div>Mike MacLean<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 10:51=E2=80=AFAM Michael=
 Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">michaelsalter@gmail.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
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x"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">Yes the rears of my BN2 are done the same way =
and when I checked them they were each within 1 oz.</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Not so mu=
ch the fronts which were out by more than 2 oz which was attributable to an=
 inconsistency in the cross section of that inner rib. <br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I=
 tried machining it to correct this but it is extremely hard so I used a gr=
inder to remove material from the inside of the rib which has worked well a=
nd is not visible when the drum and wheel are installed.</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:small">M<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 11:26=E2=80=AFAM Bob Spid=
ell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@=
comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
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    Here&#39;s a shot of removed metal on one of my BN2&#39;s drums (cut at
    about 9 o&#39;clock). This was done so cleanly I&#39;ve always assumed =
it
    was done at the &#39;factory.&#39;<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 5/19/2023 9:54 AM, Perry Small via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
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      <div>If you look at the drums you will see areas that were ground
        off to balance the drums.=C2=A0
        <div>I have given away all my spare parts so I do not have a
          good example to photograph.=C2=A0</div>
        <div>Perry</div>
        <div><br>
          <br>
          <div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
          <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
            <blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 19, 2023, at 2:19 AM,
              josef-eckert--- via Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>
              wrote:<br>
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              <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Good
                  question Bob! I doubt they have done it and the cars
                  were running anyway.<br>
                </span></p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Than=
ks,</span></p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">Jose=
f</span></p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-decoration:none">=C2=
=A0</span></p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">=C2=A0</p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum
                balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">Datum: 2023-05-19T07:56:40+0200</p>
              <p style=3D"margin:0px">Von: &quot;Robert Parker via Healeys&=
quot;
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