Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer

From: Robert Parker via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 22:30:21 -0700

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Has anyone bothered to check whether the factory ever balanced the drums or e=
ven worried about it? It=E2=80=99s not that I don=E2=80=99t care, it=E2=80=99=
s just I=E2=80=99d like to know if anyone has heard of that happening at the=
 factory. Bob, 61BT7.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 17, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> With all this noise about balancing brake drums I thought I had better tak=
e a look at the ones on my BN2.=20
> I'm in the process if machining them back to  balance now.=20
> Bit of a task on my 12" lathe but it's happening.
>=20
>> On Wed., May 17, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, <healeys@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
>> Don't grind it. Have it machined off.
>> Mike MacLean
>>=20
>>> On Wed, May 17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard Kahn <[email-masked]> wro=
te:
>>> Hendrix welded more material to my drums as needed and it seems to have w=
orked fine. I would not like grinding off material as it might affect the in=
tegrity of the drum by making it thinner, effecting the heat distribution an=
d strength.  Just some rambling from someone who doesn't know what he is tal=
king about.
>>>=20
>>> From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of alfuller194@=
gmail.com <[email-masked]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2023 12:23 AM
>>> To: 'Michael MacLean' <[email-masked]>
>>> Cc: 'Healey List' <[email-masked]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer
>>> =20
>>> Mike =E2=80=93 I would think that would be the likely explanation for ha=
ving sections of the drum rim machined off.
>>> =20
>>> ----------------
>>> All the best,
>>> =20
>>> Al Fuller
>>> =20
>>> From: Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>=20
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2023 2:47 PM
>>> To: [email-masked]
>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer
>>> =20
>>> Al, list,=20
>>>      The drums for my BN2 has sections of the raised rim machined off. D=
oes this mean my drums were balanced in the past?
>>> Mike MacLean
>>> =20
>>> On Tue, May 16, 2023, 2:30 PM <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>> Bob:  If you are wondering about brake drum balancing methods, you may b=
e interested in the two methods used on my Healeys.
>>> =20
>>> One shop trimmed off the fins as needed to balance the drums, one needin=
g more trimming than the other =E2=80=93 but they both came out well.
>>> =20
>>> A different shop welded rod material onto my current BJ-8=E2=80=99s drum=
s to balance them. I think these drums were more out of balance than on prio=
r cars. They were careful to call me ahead of the operation to ask how much c=
learance I had between the wheel and drum, and I was able to take them a whe=
el and hub so they could see how it all fit together.  The results are just f=
ine, also.
>>> ----------------
>>> All the best,
>>> =20
>>> Al Fuller
>>> =20
>>> From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Bob Haskell v=
ia Healeys
>>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 2:36 PM
>>> To: Harold Manifold <[email-masked]>; Healey List <[email-masked]=
m.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>> =20
>>> Harold,
>>>=20
>>> How did you balance the drums - add or remove material? Care to provide a=
ny details?
>>>=20
>>> Bob Haskell
>>> Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
>>> On 5/15/23 11:32, Harold Manifold wrote:
>>> Another consideration for balancing the rear tires is the brake drums. I=
 have the original BMC brake drums and was surprised at how out of balance t=
hey were. I static balanced the brake drums to go with the separately balanc=
ed wheels and tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skuttle shakes so far.
>>> =20
>>> Harold
>>> =20
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>>> Here in Brisbane there=E2=80=99s at least one place (near me) that does o=
n-car balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a central hole, so c=
an=E2=80=99t be balanced on a regular machine. That said, the last set of Kh=
umo Ecowing ES31s I bought are fine with no balancing!
>>> =20
>>> Peter Linn
>>> Brisbane
>>> BN1 Holden V6
>>> MG TC special
>>> =20
>>> From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of m.g.sharp---=
 via Healeys
>>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 PM
>>> To: 'Harold Manifold' <[email-masked]>; 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik@gmai=
l.com>
>>> Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>> =20
>>> I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-off (spinner).  I ha=
d a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure that it was true on the i=
nside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put a slight chamfer on the=
 edges to provide better registration for the standard cones on a modern bal=
ancer.  Then we machined the centre out of the spinner so  that when the whe=
el is mounted on the hub and the spinner is tightened, the outer cone on the=
 balancer fits through it and registers on the hub.  That part is a little t=
ricky as if you machine the hole too big, the spinner will end up in two pie=
ces =E2=80=93 measure carefully!  Hub and spinner was $25 at a swap meet and=
 machining was $50.  I believe this adaptor will work on any post-war wire w=
heels except the Jags, which had different hubs.  Worked a treat on my TC wh=
eels.  Healey is running vibration-free- so leaving it alone for now.
>>> =20
>>> I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinking it balanced the=
 drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you remembered to mark t=
he position of the wheels when you took them off and did not rotate them (to=
 a different position on the car)!  That is likely one reason  they are not u=
sed anymore, because if your drums were out of balance and you added weights=
 to the wheel that balanced them out, then every time you removed the wheel,=
 you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, unless it went back in exactly the same po=
sition.   Anyhow it=E2=80=99s a moot point as I have not seen an on-wheel ba=
lancer for decades.   I imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but when I b=
alanced the drums on the TC  they were significantly off.  I hear balancing H=
ealey drums brings good results, but never felt the need as my BT7 has alway=
s run pretty smooth.  If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants drums balanced, Ga=
rland and Sons in Scarborough did great work for me.
>>> =20
>>> Mirek
>>> =20
>>> From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Harold Manif=
old
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM
>>> To: HealeyRick <[email-masked]>
>>> Cc: Healeys <[email-masked]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>> =20
>>> It looks like the kit is designed to follow the Dunlop/MWS recommendatio=
ns for balancing. See attached. It should be a good piece of kit.
>>> =20
>>> Harold
>>> =20
>>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via Healeys <healeys@=
autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> AH Spares just sent out this email about a wire wheel balancer kit to mo=
unt the wheels on a modern balancing machine.  What are your thoughts?  http=
s://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-balancing-=
kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=3Demail
>>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Has anyone bothered to check whether the fa=
ctory ever balanced the drums or even worried about it? It=E2=80=99s not tha=
t I don=E2=80=99t care, it=E2=80=99s just I=E2=80=99d like to know if anyone=
 has heard of that happening at the factory. Bob, 61BT7.<br><br><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
>On May 17, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]=
eam.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto">With all this noise about balancing br=
ake drums I thought I had better take a look at the ones on my BN2.&nbsp;<di=
v dir=3D"auto">I'm in the process if machining them back to&nbsp; balance no=
w.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto">Bit of a task on my 12" lathe but it's happe=
ning.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gm=
ail_attr">On Wed., May 17, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Don't grind it.=
 Have it machined off.<div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, May 17, 202=
3, 6:58 AM Richard Kahn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">
Hendrix welded more material to my drums as needed and it seems to have work=
ed fine. I would not like grinding off material as it might affect the integ=
rity of the drum by making it thinner, effecting the heat distribution and s=
trength.&nbsp; Just some rambling
 from someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.</div>
<div id=3D"m_-8776418827343960111m_-309449344821178973appendonsend"></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:=
rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_-8776418827343960111m_-309449344821178973divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"=
ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,=
0,0)"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a>&gt; on behalf of <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D=
"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 17, 2023 12:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Michael MacLean' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Healey List' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D=
"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=

<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer<=
/font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
Mike =E2=80=93 I would think that would be the likely explanation for having=
 sections of the drum rim machined off.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
----------------</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
All the best,</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
Al Fuller</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0=
in 0in">
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<b>From:</b> Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 16, 2023 2:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer<=
/p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
Al, list,&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;The drums for my BN2 has sections of the raised rim mach=
ined off. Does this mean my drums were balanced in the past?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
Mike MacLean</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
On Tue, May 16, 2023, 2:30 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in=
 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
Bob:&nbsp; If you are wondering about brake drum balancing methods, you may b=
e interested in the two methods used on my Healeys.
</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
One shop trimmed off the fins as needed to balance the drums, one needing mo=
re trimming than the other =E2=80=93 but they both came out well.</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
A different shop welded rod material onto my current BJ-8=E2=80=99s drums to=
 balance them. I think these drums were more out of balance than on prior ca=
rs. They were careful to call me ahead of the operation to ask how much clea=
rance I had between the wheel and drum,
 and I was able to take them a wheel and hub so they could see how it all fi=
t together.&nbsp; The results are just fine, also.</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
----------------</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
All the best,</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
Al Fuller</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0=
in 0in">
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Haskell via Healeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 15, 2023 2:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Harold Manifold &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"=
noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; Healey L=
ist &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<p>Harold,</p>
<p>How did you balance the drums - add or remove material? Care to provide a=
ny details?</p>
<pre style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"=
>Bob Haskell</pre>
<pre style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"=
>Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
On 5/15/23 11:32, Harold Manifold wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
Another consideration for balancing the rear tires is the brake drums. I hav=
e the original BMC brake drums and was surprised at how out of balance they w=
ere. I static balanced the brake drums to go with the separately&nbsp;balanc=
ed wheels and tires. No vibrations,
 shimmies or skuttle shakes so far. </p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
Harold</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:greylinn@ozem=
ail.com.au" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">greylinn@ozemail=
.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in=
 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bo=
ttom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-AU">Here in Brisbane there=E2=80=99s at least one place (ne=
ar me) that does on-car balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a=
 central hole, so can=E2=80=99t be balanced on a regular machine. That said,=
 the last set of Khumo Ecowing ES31s I bought are fine
 with no balancing!</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-AU">Peter Linn</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-AU">Brisbane</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-AU">BN1 Holden V6</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-AU">MG TC special</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p>
<div>
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in 0in">
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>m.g.sharp--- via Healeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Harold Manifold' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D=
"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 'Heale=
yRick' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"no=
referrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
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<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-CA">I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-off=
 (spinner).&nbsp; I had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure th=
at it was true on the inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put a=
 slight chamfer on the edges to provide
 better registration for the standard cones on a modern balancer.&nbsp; Then=
 we machined the centre out of the spinner so&nbsp; that when the wheel is m=
ounted on the hub and the spinner is tightened, the outer cone on the balanc=
er fits through it and registers on the
 hub.&nbsp; That part is a little tricky as if you machine the hole too big,=
 the spinner will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully!&nbsp; Hu=
b and spinner was $25 at a swap meet and machining was $50.&nbsp; I believe t=
his adaptor will work on any post-war wire wheels except
 the Jags, which had different hubs.&nbsp; Worked a treat on my TC wheels.&n=
bsp; Healey is running vibration-free- so leaving it alone for now.</span></=
p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-CA">I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinkin=
g it balanced the drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you rem=
embered to mark the position of the wheels when you took them off and did no=
t rotate them (to a different position
 on the car)!&nbsp; That is likely one reason &nbsp;they are not used anymor=
e, because if your drums were out of balance and you added weights to the wh=
eel that balanced them out, then every time you removed the wheel, you=E2=80=
=99d loose the balance, unless it went back in
 exactly the same position. &nbsp;&nbsp;Anyhow it=E2=80=99s a moot point as I=
 have not seen an on-wheel balancer for decades. &nbsp;&nbsp;I imagine that d=
isks run very true anyhow, but when I balanced the drums on the TC&nbsp; the=
y were significantly off.&nbsp; I hear balancing Healey drums brings
 good results, but never felt the need as my BT7 has always run pretty smoot=
h.&nbsp; If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants drums balanced, Garland and Son=
s in Scarborough did great work for me.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-CA">Mirek</span></p>
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<span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Harold Manifold<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> HealeyRick &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
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<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span lang=3D"EN-CA">It looks like the kit is designed to follow&nbsp;the Du=
nlop/MWS recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a good pi=
ece of kit.</span></p>
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<span lang=3D"EN-CA">Harold</span></p>
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<span lang=3D"EN-CA">On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via H=
ealeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noref=
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<span lang=3D"EN-CA">AH Spares just sent out this email about a wire wheel b=
alancer kit to mount the wheels on a modern balancing machine.&nbsp; What ar=
e your thoughts?&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-hea=
ley/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&a=
mp;utm_source=3Dnewsletter&amp;utm_medium=3Demail" rel=3D"noreferrer norefer=
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From: josef-eckert--- via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 08:03:16 +0200 (CEST)

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Good question Bob! I doubt they have done it and the cars were running=20
anyway.
Thanks,
Josef
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-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer
Datum: 2023-05-19T07:56:40+0200
Von: "Robert Parker via Healeys" <[email-masked]>
An: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked]>
=20
=20
=20
Has anyone bothered to check whether the factory ever balanced the drums or=
=20
even worried about it? It=E2=80=99s not that I don=E2=80=99t care, it=E2=80=
=99s just I=E2=80=99d like to=20
know if anyone has heard of that happening at the factory. Bob, 61BT7.

Sent from my iPhone

    On May 17, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys
    <[email-masked]> wrote:

    With all this noise about balancing brake drums I thought I had better
    take a look at the ones on my BN2.=20
    I'm in the process if machining them back to  balance now.=20
    Bit of a task on my 12" lathe but it's happening.

    On Wed., May 17, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, <
      Don't grind it. Have it machined off.
      Mike MacLean

      On Wed, May 17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard Kahn <[email-masked]
        Hendrix welded more material to my drums as needed and it seems to
        have worked fine. I would not like grinding off material as it
        might affect the integrity of the drum by making it thinner,
        effecting the heat distribution and strength.  Just some rambling
        from someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.
        =20
        =20
        ----------------------------------------------------------------
        From: Healeys <[email-masked]
        Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2023 12:23 AM
        To: 'Michael MacLean' <[email-masked]
        Cc: 'Healey List' <[email-masked]
        Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel
        Balancer
        =20
        Mike =E2=80=93 I would think that would be the likely explanation f=
or
        having sections of the drum rim machined off.
        =20
        ----------------
        All the best,
        =20
        Al Fuller
        =20
        From: Michael MacLean <[email-masked]
        Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2023 2:47 PM
        Subject: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel
        Balancer
        =20
        Al, list,=20
             The drums for my BN2 has sections of the raised rim machined
        off. Does this mean my drums were balanced in the past?
        Mike MacLean
        =20
        On Tue, May 16, 2023, 2:30 PM <[email-masked]
         Bob:  If you are wondering about brake drum balancing methods, you
         may be interested in the two methods used on my Healeys.
         =20
         One shop trimmed off the fins as needed to balance the drums, one
         needing more trimming than the other =E2=80=93 but they both came =
out
         well.
         =20
         A different shop welded rod material onto my current BJ-8=E2=80=99=
s drums
         to balance them. I think these drums were more out of balance than
         on prior cars. They were careful to call me ahead of the operation
         to ask how much clearance I had between the wheel and drum, and I
         was able to take them a wheel and hub so they could see how it all
         fit together.  The results are just fine, also.
         ----------------
         All the best,
         =20
         Al Fuller
         =20
         From: Healeys <[email-masked]
         via Healeys
         Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 2:36 PM
         To: Harold Manifold <[email-masked]
         Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
         =20
         Harold,
         How did you balance the drums - add or remove material? Care to
         provide any details?
         Bob Haskell
         Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
         On 5/15/23 11:32, Harold Manifold wrote:

             Another consideration for balancing the rear tires is the
             brake drums. I have the original BMC brake drums and was
             surprised at how out of balance they were. I static balanced
             the brake drums to go with the separately balanced wheels and
             tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skuttle shakes so far.
             =20
             Harold
             =20
             On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM <[email-masked]=
.au

              Here in Brisbane there=E2=80=99s at least one place (near me)=
 that
              does on-car balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t hav=
e a
              central hole, so can=E2=80=99t be balanced on a regular machi=
ne. That
              said, the last set of Khumo Ecowing ES31s I bought are fine
              with no balancing!
              =20
              Peter Linn
              Brisbane
              BN1 Holden V6
              MG TC special
              =20
              From: Healeys <[email-masked]
              m.g.sharp--- via Healeys
              Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 PM
              To: 'Harold Manifold' <[email-masked]
              Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]
              Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
              =20
              I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-off
              (spinner).  I had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and
              ensure that it was true on the inside edges (where the
              bearings fit) and had him put a slight chamfer on the edges
              to provide better registration for the standard cones on a
              modern balancer.  Then we machined the centre out of the
              spinner so  that when the wheel is mounted on the hub and the
              spinner is tightened, the outer cone on the balancer fits
              through it and registers on the hub.  That part is a little
              tricky as if you machine the hole too big, the spinner will
              end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully!  Hub and sp=
inner
              was $25 at a swap meet and machining was $50.  I believe this
              adaptor will work on any post-war wire wheels except the
              Jags, which had different hubs.  Worked a treat on my TC
              wheels.  Healey is running vibration-free- so leaving it
              alone for now.
              =20
              I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinking it
              balanced the drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long =
as you
              remembered to mark the position of the wheels when you took
              them off and did not rotate them (to a different position on
              the car)!  That is likely one reason  they are not used
              anymore, because if your drums were out of balance and you
              added weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then every
              time you removed the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, =
unless
              it went back in exactly the same position.   Anyhow it=E2=80=
=99s a
              moot point as I have not seen an on-wheel balancer for
              decades.   I imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but
              when I balanced the drums on the TC  they were significantly
              off.  I hear balancing Healey drums brings good results, but
              never felt the need as my BT7 has always run pretty smooth.=
=20
              If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants drums balanced, Garland
              and Sons in Scarborough did great work for me.
              =20
              Mirek
              =20
              From: Healeys <[email-masked]
              Harold Manifold
              Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM
              To: HealeyRick <[email-masked]
              Cc: Healeys <[email-masked]
              Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
              =20
              It looks like the kit is designed to follow the Dunlop/MWS
              recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a
              good piece of kit.
              =20
              Harold
              =20
              On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via Healey=
s <
              wrote:

               AH Spares just sent out this email about a wire wheel
               balancer kit to mount the wheels on a modern balancing
               machine.  What are your thoughts? =20
               https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/w=
ire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewsletter=
&utm_medium=3Demail
               <https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/=
wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewslette=
r&utm_medium=3Demail>
               =20
               Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
=3DUTF-8"/><title></title></head><body><p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;te=
xt-decoration:none">Good question Bob! I doubt they have done it and the ca=
rs were running anyway.<br /></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Thanks,</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Josef</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance -- was =
Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2023-05-19T07:56:40+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Robert Parker via Healeys" &lt;healeys@auto=
x.team.net&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "Michael Salter" &lt;[email-masked]&=
gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<div style=3D"position: relative; color: #000000; font: 12px Arial,Helvetic=
a,sans-serif;">Has anyone bothered to check whether the factory ever balanc=
ed the drums or even worried about it? It&rsquo;s not that I don&rsquo;t ca=
re, it&rsquo;s just I&rsquo;d like to know if anyone has heard of that happ=
ening at the factory. Bob, 61BT7.<br /><br />
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br />
<blockquote>On May 17, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys &lt;hea=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br /><br /></blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"auto">With all this noise about balancing brake drums I thought=
 I had better take a look at the ones on my BN2.&nbsp;
<div dir=3D"auto">I'm in the process if machining them back to&nbsp; balanc=
e now.&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Bit of a task on my 12" lathe but it's happening.</div>
</div>
<br />
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed., May 17, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Mich=
ael MacLean via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heal=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:=
 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"auto">Don't grind it. Have it machined off.
<div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div>
</div>
<br />
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, May 17, 2023, 6:58 AM Richard=
 Kahn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer">tah=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:=
 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: #000000;">Hendrix welded more material to my drums as needed and it s=
eems to have worked fine. I would not like grinding off material as it migh=
t affect the integrity of the drum by making it thinner, effecting the heat=
 distribution and strength.&nbsp; Just some rambling from someone who doesn=
't know what he is talking about.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: #000000;">&nbsp;</div>
<hr style=3D"display: inline-block; width: 98%;" />
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-famil=
y: Calibri, sans-serif;"><strong>From:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">healeys-bo=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of <a href=3D"mailto:alfuller194@gma=
il.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">alfuller194=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br /><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, May 17, 2023 12:2=
3 AM<br /><strong>To:</strong> 'Michael MacLean' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spri=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">springer.mike51@gmail.=
com</a>&gt;<br /><strong>Cc:</strong> 'Healey List' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:h=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt;<br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Brake Drum balance --=
 was Wire Wheel Balancer</span>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">Mike &ndash; I would think that would be the likely explanation for havin=
g sections of the drum rim machined off.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">----------------</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">All the best,</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">Al Fuller</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">&nbsp;</p>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt=
 0in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><strong>From:</strong> Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:springer.mik=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; <br /><strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, May 16, 2023 2:47 PM<br /><strong=
>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer no=
referrer">[email-masked]</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Hea=
leys] Brake Drum balance -- was Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">Al, list,&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;The drums for my BN2 has sections of the raised rim m=
achined off. Does this mean my drums were balanced in the past?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">Mike MacLean</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">On Tue, May 16, 2023, 2:30 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #cccccc 1.0pt; paddin=
g: 0in 0in 0in 6.0pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">Bob:&nbsp; If you are wondering about brake drum balancing methods, you m=
ay be interested in the two methods used on my Healeys.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">One shop trimmed off the fins as needed to balance the drums, one needing=
 more trimming than the other &ndash; but they both came out well.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">A different shop welded rod material onto my current BJ-8&rsquo;s drums t=
o balance them. I think these drums were more out of balance than on prior =
cars. They were careful to call me ahead of the operation to ask how much c=
learance I had between the wheel and drum, and I was able to take them a wh=
eel and hub so they could see how it all fit together.&nbsp; The results ar=
e just fine, also.</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">----------------</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">All the best,</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">Al Fuller</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt=
 0in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><strong>From:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@auto=
x.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Bob Haskell via Healeys<br /><strong>Se=
nt:</strong> Monday, May 15, 2023 2:36 PM<br /><strong>To:</strong> Harold =
Manifold &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefe=
rrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; Healey List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;<br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Harold,</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">How did you balance the drums - add or remove mat=
erial? Care to provide any details?</p>
<pre style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;">Bob Ha=
skell</pre>
<pre style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;">Austin=
-Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">On 5/15/23 11:32, Harold Manifold wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">Another consideration for balancing the rear tires is the brake drums. I =
have the original BMC brake drums and was surprised at how out of balance t=
hey were. I static balanced the brake drums to go with the separately&nbsp;=
balanced wheels and tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skuttle shakes so far=
.</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">Harold</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
">On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:greylinn@o=
zemail.com.au" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #cccccc 1.0pt; paddin=
g: 0in 0in 0in 6.0pt; margin: 5.0pt 0in 5.0pt 4.8pt;">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Here in Brisbane there&rsquo;s at least one place (n=
ear me) that does on-car balancing. The wheels on my 100 don&rsquo;t have a=
 central hole, so can&rsquo;t be balanced on a regular machine. That said, =
the last set of Khumo Ecowing ES31s I bought are fine with no balancing!</s=
pan></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Peter Linn</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Brisbane</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">BN1 Holden V6</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">MG TC special</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt=
 0in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><strong>From:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@auto=
x.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>m.g.sharp--- via Healeys<br /><strong>S=
ent:</strong> Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 PM<br /><strong>To:</strong> 'Harol=
d Manifold' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer nor=
eferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 'HealeyRick' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hea=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
<br /><strong>Cc:</strong> 'Healeys' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br /><=
strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-=
off (spinner).&nbsp; I had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensur=
e that it was true on the inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him=
 put a slight chamfer on the edges to provide better registration for the s=
tandard cones on a modern balancer.&nbsp; Then we machined the centre out o=
f the spinner so&nbsp; that when the wheel is mounted on the hub and the sp=
inner is tightened, the outer cone on the balancer fits through it and regi=
sters on the hub.&nbsp; That part is a little tricky as if you machine the =
hole too big, the spinner will end up in two pieces &ndash; measure careful=
ly!&nbsp; Hub and spinner was $25 at a swap meet and machining was $50.&nbs=
p; I believe this adaptor will work on any post-war wire wheels except the =
Jags, which had different hubs.&nbsp; Worked a treat on my TC wheels.&nbsp;=
 Healey is running vibration-free- so leaving it alone for now.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thin=
king it balanced the drum or disk at the same time &ndash; as long as you r=
emembered to mark the position of the wheels when you took them off and did=
 not rotate them (to a different position on the car)!&nbsp; That is likely=
 one reason &nbsp;they are not used anymore, because if your drums were out=
 of balance and you added weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then=
 every time you removed the wheel, you&rsquo;d loose the balance, unless it=
 went back in exactly the same position. &nbsp;&nbsp;Anyhow it&rsquo;s a mo=
ot point as I have not seen an on-wheel balancer for decades. &nbsp;&nbsp;I=
 imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but when I balanced the drums on =
the TC&nbsp; they were significantly off.&nbsp; I hear balancing Healey dru=
ms brings good results, but never felt the need as my BT7 has always run pr=
etty smooth.&nbsp; If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants drums balanced, Garl=
and and Sons in Scarborough did great work for me.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Mirek</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
<div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt=
 0in 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><strong>From:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@auto=
x.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Harold Manifold<br /><strong>Sent:</str=
ong> Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM<br /><strong>To:</strong> HealeyRick &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">hea=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br /><strong>Cc:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a>&gt;<br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Bal=
ancer</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">It looks like the kit is designed to follow&nbsp;the=
 Dunlop/MWS recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a goo=
d piece of kit.</span></p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Harold</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick v=
ia Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #cccccc 1.0pt; paddin=
g: 0in 0in 0in 6.0pt; margin: 5.0pt 0in 5.0pt 4.8pt;">
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
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