Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust hangers

From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 18:51:58 -0400

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The strut attaches to an extra length oil pan screw, the one directly below
the spot where the tach cable attaches to the tach drive housing.
To be correct the "U" clamp should have UNF threads.   Just sayin'

M

On Mon., May 22, 2023, 5:47 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Excuse my ignorance, but can someone tell me what number 8 is bolted to
> and where does it clamp to the exhaust pipe? Anyone have a picture of this
> hanger in place?  I am ordering all the hangers for the exhaust system to
> install before I take the car off the jack stands.
> Mike MacLean
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<div dir=3D"auto">The strut attaches to an extra length oil pan screw, the =
one directly below the spot where the tach cable attaches to the tach drive=
 housing.<div dir=3D"auto">To be correct the &quot;U&quot; clamp should hav=
e UNF threads.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Just sayin&#39;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon., May 22, 2023, 5:47 p.m. Michael MacLean =
via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Excuse my ignorance, but can =
someone tell me what number 8 is bolted to and where does it clamp to the e=
xhaust pipe? Anyone have a picture of this hanger in place?=C2=A0 I am orde=
ring all the hangers for the exhaust system to install before I take the ca=
r off the jack stands.</div><div>Mike MacLean<br></div></div>
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From: Curtis Arndt via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 08:07:12 -0700

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*<To be correct the "U" clamp should have UNF threads.   Just sayin'>*

Michael, FWIW, both of my ORIGINAL "U" shaped clamps have BSF fasteners...
See photos. I reused one of my originals when I restored my BN1. Modern
reproduction "U" clamps use UNF or more commonly UNC fasteners.

On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 7:33=E2=80=AFPM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail=
.com>
wrote:

> The strut attaches to an extra length oil pan screw, the one directly
> below the spot where the tach cable attaches to the tach drive housing.
>> and where does it clamp to the exhaust pipe? Anyone have a picture of th=
is
>> hanger in place?  I am ordering all the hangers for the exhaust system t=
o
>> install before I take the car off the jack stands.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4"><i>&lt;To be correct the=
 &quot;U&quot; clamp should have UNF threads.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Just sayin&#39;&g=
t;</i><br></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4">Michael, FWIW, both of my ORIGINAL &quot;U=
&quot; shaped clamps have BSF fasteners... See photos. I reused one of my o=
riginals when=C2=A0I restored my BN1. Modern reproduction &quot;U&quot; cla=
mps=C2=A0use UNF or more commonly UNC fasteners.</font></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 22, 2023=
 at 7:33=E2=80=AFPM Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmai=
l.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">The strut attaches to an ex=
tra length oil pan screw, the one directly below the spot where the tach ca=
ble attaches to the tach drive housing.<div dir=3D"auto">To be correct the =
&quot;U&quot; clamp should have UNF threads.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Just sayin&#39;</d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon., May 22, 20=
23, 5:47 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@au=
tox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div>Excuse my ignorance, but can someone tell me what numbe=
r 8 is bolted to and where does it clamp to the exhaust pipe? Anyone have a=
 picture of this hanger in place?=C2=A0 I am ordering all the hangers for t=
he exhaust system to install before I take the car off the jack stands.</di=
v><div>Mike MacLean</div></div></blockquote></div>
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From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 11:11:08 -0400

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BSF   well one learns something every day.
Thanks Curt.

M

On Tue., May 23, 2023, 11:07 a.m. Curtis Arndt, <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Michael, FWIW, both of my ORIGINAL "U" shaped clamps have BSF fasteners..=
.
> On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 7:33=E2=80=AFPM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gma=
il.com>
>>> and where does it clamp to the exhaust pipe? Anyone have a picture of t=
his
>>> hanger in place?  I am ordering all the hangers for the exhaust system =
to
>>> install before I take the car off the jack stands.

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<div dir=3D"auto">BSF=C2=A0 =C2=A0well one learns something every day.=C2=
=A0<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks Curt.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue., May 23, 2023, 11:07 a.m. Curtis Arndt, &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=
=3D"4"><i>&lt;To be correct the &quot;U&quot; clamp should have UNF threads=
.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Just sayin&#39;&gt;</i><br></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><fon=
t size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4">Michael, FW=
IW, both of my ORIGINAL &quot;U&quot; shaped clamps have BSF fasteners... S=
ee photos. I reused one of my originals when=C2=A0I restored my BN1. Modern=
 reproduction &quot;U&quot; clamps=C2=A0use UNF or more commonly UNC fasten=
ers.</font></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 7:33=E2=80=AFPM Michael Salter &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">The strut attaches to an extra len=
gth oil pan screw, the one directly below the spot where the tach cable att=
aches to the tach drive housing.<div dir=3D"auto">To be correct the &quot;U=
&quot; clamp should have UNF threads.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Just sayin&#39;</div><div=
 dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon., May 22, 2023, 5:4=
7 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Excuse my ignorance, but can someone tell me what n=
umber 8 is bolted to and where does it clamp to the exhaust pipe? Anyone ha=
ve a picture of this hanger in place?=C2=A0 I am ordering all the hangers f=
or the exhaust system to install before I take the car off the jack stands.=
</div><div>Mike MacLean</div></div></blockquote></div>
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From: Curtis Arndt <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 08:16:50 -0700

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I agree!

Most of these were lost to rust decades ago, and I for one am amazed that
these two survived in such good condition. BTW I did replace the nuts with
NOS BSF ones, two in steel and two in brass [as per the photos].

However, I did find out that bronze "spring washers" fail rather quickly
under heat so I replaced them with steel ones.

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 8:11=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail=
.com>
wrote:

>> Michael, FWIW, both of my ORIGINAL "U" shaped clamps have BSF
>> fasteners... See photos. I reused one of my originals when I restored my
>> BN1. Modern reproduction "U" clamps use UNF or more commonly UNC fastene=
rs.
>>
>> On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 7:33=E2=80=AFPM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gm=
ail.com>
>>>> Excuse my ignorance, but can someone tell me what number 8 is bolted t=
o
>>>> and where does it clamp to the exhaust pipe? Anyone have a picture of =
this
>>>> hanger in place?  I am ordering all the hangers for the exhaust system=
 to
>>>> install before I take the car off the jack stands.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4">I agree!=C2=A0</font><div><font size=3D"4=
"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">Most of these were lost to rust de=
cades ago, and I for one am amazed that these two survived in such good con=
dition. BTW I did replace the nuts with NOS BSF ones, two in steel and two =
in brass [as per the photos].=C2=A0</font><div><font size=3D"4"><br></font>=
</div><div><font size=3D"4">However, I did find out that bronze &quot;sprin=
g washers&quot; fail rather quickly under heat so I replaced them with stee=
l ones.</font><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 8:11=E2=80=AFAM Micha=
el Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">michaelsalter@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">BSF=C2=A0 =C2=A0well one learns something every day.=
=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks Curt.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue., May 23, 2023, 11:07 a.m. Curtis Arndt, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4"><i>&lt;To be correct the &qu=
ot;U&quot; clamp should have UNF threads.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Just sayin&#39;&gt;</=
i><br></font></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4">Michael, FWIW, both of my ORIGINAL &quot;U&quo=
t; shaped clamps have BSF fasteners... See photos. I reused one of my origi=
nals when=C2=A0I restored my BN1. Modern reproduction &quot;U&quot; clamps=
=C2=A0use UNF or more commonly UNC fasteners.</font></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 22, 2023 at=
 7:33=E2=80=AFPM Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"auto">The strut attaches to an extra length oil pan screw, the one directl=
y below the spot where the tach cable attaches to the tach drive housing.<d=
iv dir=3D"auto">To be correct the &quot;U&quot; clamp should have UNF threa=
ds.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Just sayin&#39;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon., May 22, 2023, 5:47 p.m. Michael MacLean via Heale=
ys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Excuse m=
y ignorance, but can someone tell me what number 8 is bolted to and where d=
oes it clamp to the exhaust pipe? Anyone have a picture of this hanger in p=
lace?=C2=A0 I am ordering all the hangers for the exhaust system to install=
 before I take the car off the jack stands.</div><div>Mike MacLean</div></d=
iv></blockquote></div>
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From: Curtis Arndt via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 08:22:40 -0700

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Two more photos.

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 8:16=E2=80=AFAM Curtis Arndt <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

> these two survived in such good condition. BTW I did replace the nuts wit=
h
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 8:11=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gma=
il.com>
>> BSF   well one learns something every day.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4">Two more photos.</font><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Tue, May 23, 2023 at 8:16=E2=80=AFAM Curtis Arndt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:c=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4">I ag=
ree!=C2=A0</font><div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"=
4">Most of these were lost to rust decades ago, and I for one am amazed tha=
t these two survived in such good condition. BTW I did replace the nuts wit=
h NOS BSF ones, two in steel and two in brass [as per the photos].=C2=A0</f=
ont><div><font size=3D"4"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"4">However, I=
 did find out that bronze &quot;spring washers&quot; fail rather quickly un=
der heat so I replaced them with steel ones.</font><br></div></div></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, =
May 23, 2023 at 8:11=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michae=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"aut=
o">BSF=C2=A0 =C2=A0well one learns something every day.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"au=
to">Thanks Curt.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 17:01:46 +0000

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From: Ricchardd Mayor <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 12:01:22 -0700

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I have a question for you all regarding Whitworth (55* thread pitch =
angle) fasteners.  I have generally referred to both BSW and BSF as =
Whitworth fasteners. But, I have been =E2=80=9Ccorrected=E2=80=9D a =
number of times over this last year by some that say BSF is not =
Whitworth.  So, is BSF Whitworth, or is it not?=20

Richard Mayor
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> On May 23, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Jean Caron =
<[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I wonder if there are enough complaints about the brass washers, would =
BMC consider a recall on this!!!!!LOL
>=20
> Jean
>=20
> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=E2=80=99s largest =
network.
> From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Curtis =
Arndt <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 10:16:50 AM
> To: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
> Cc: Ahealey help <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Exhaust hangers
> =20
> I agree!=20
>=20
> Most of these were lost to rust decades ago, and I for one am amazed =
that these two survived in such good condition. BTW I did replace the =
nuts with NOS BSF ones, two in steel and two in brass [as per the =
photos].=20
>=20
> However, I did find out that bronze "spring washers" fail rather =
quickly under heat so I replaced them with steel ones.
>=20
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 8:11=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter =
> BSF   well one learns something every day.=20
> Thanks Curt.
>=20
> M
>=20
> On Tue., May 23, 2023, 11:07 a.m. Curtis Arndt, <[email-masked] =
> <To be correct the "U" clamp should have UNF threads.   Just sayin'>
>=20
> Michael, FWIW, both of my ORIGINAL "U" shaped clamps have BSF =
fasteners... See photos. I reused one of my originals when I restored my =
BN1. Modern reproduction "U" clamps use UNF or more commonly UNC =
fasteners.
>=20
> On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 7:33=E2=80=AFPM Michael Salter =
> The strut attaches to an extra length oil pan screw, the one directly =
>=20
>=20
> On Mon., May 22, 2023, 5:47 p.m. Michael MacLean via Healeys, =
> Excuse my ignorance, but can someone tell me what number 8 is bolted =
to and where does it clamp to the exhaust pipe? Anyone have a picture of =
this hanger in place?  I am ordering all the hangers for the exhaust =
system to install before I take the car off the jack stands.
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">I have a question for you all regarding Whitworth (55* thread =
pitch angle) fasteners. &nbsp;I have generally referred to both BSW and =
BSF as Whitworth fasteners. But, I have been =E2=80=9Ccorrected=E2=80=9D =
a number of times over this last year by some that say BSF is not =
Whitworth. &nbsp;So, is BSF Whitworth, or is it not?&nbsp;<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
apple-content-edited=3D"true" class=3D"">
Richard&nbsp;Mayor<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">

</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On May 23, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Jean Caron &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">

<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D"">

<div class=3D"">
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I wonder if there are enough complaints =
about the brass washers, would BMC consider a recall on =
this!!!!!LOL</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Jean</div>
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div id=3D"ms-outlook-mobile-signature" dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Sent =
from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=E2=80=99s largest network.</div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1" class=3D"">
<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, =
sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b> =
Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Curtis =
Arndt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 23, 2023 10:16:50 AM<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">To:</b> Michael Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Cc:</b> Ahealey help &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
<b class=3D"">Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Exhaust hangers</font>
<div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">I =
agree!&nbsp;</font>
<div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</font></div>
<div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">Most of these were lost to =
rust decades ago, and I for one am amazed that these two survived in =
such good condition. BTW I did replace the nuts with NOS BSF ones, two =
in steel and two in brass [as per the photos].&nbsp;</font>
<div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</font></div>
<div class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">However, I did find out that =
bronze "spring washers" fail rather quickly under heat so I replaced =
them with steel ones.</font><br class=3D"">
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Tue, May 23, 2023 at =
8:11=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D"">
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">BSF&nbsp; &nbsp;well one learns something =
every day.&nbsp;
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Thanks Curt.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">M</div>
</div>
<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Tue., May 23, 2023, 11:07 =
a.m. Curtis Arndt, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D"">
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><i =
class=3D"">&lt;To be correct the "U" clamp should have UNF =
threads.&nbsp; &nbsp;Just sayin'&gt;</i><br class=3D"">
</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</font></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">Michael, FWIW, =
both of my ORIGINAL "U" shaped clamps have BSF fasteners... See photos. =
I reused one of my originals when&nbsp;I restored my BN1. Modern =
reproduction "U" clamps&nbsp;use UNF or more commonly UNC =
fasteners.</font></div>
<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Mon, May 22, 2023 at =
7:33=E2=80=AFPM Michael Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D"">
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">The strut attaches to an extra length oil =
pan screw, the one directly below the spot where the tach cable attaches =
to the tach drive housing.
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">To be correct the "U" clamp should have UNF =
threads.&nbsp; &nbsp;Just sayin'</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">M</div>
</div>
<br class=3D"">
<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Mon., May 22, 2023, 5:47 p.m. =
Michael MacLean via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D"">
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">Excuse my ignorance, but can someone tell me what number =
8 is bolted to and where does it clamp to the exhaust pipe? Anyone have =
a picture of this hanger in place?&nbsp; I am ordering all the hangers =
for the exhaust system to install before I take the car off
 the jack stands.</div>
<div class=3D"">Mike MacLean</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
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Richard,

Great question. and an easy one to answer.

The British Standards [the ONLY official source] state explicitly that the
definition of a Whitworth fastener is one that has a 55 degree thread pitch
angle versus the 60 degrees of UNF/UNC, ANF/ANC, and SAE fine and
coarse and the 47-1/2 degree thread pitch of BA - British Association.

Whitworth IS NOT defined and a fastener that uses a Whitworth sized hex
head as both BSC British Standard Cycle and CEI Cycle Engineers Institute
have these heads and use whitworth spanners BUT also have threads with a 60
degree pitch angle... *hence NOT whitworth!!! *Where does the BS [not
British Standard] come from? Wikipedia, which is wrong on this subject,
something I've tried to correct for two decades to no avail!

The five most common whitworth fasteners [yes, there are more] used on
Austin Healeys are... BSF - British Standard Fine, BSW - British Standard
Whitworth, BSPP - British Standard Pipe Parallel, BSPT - British Standard
Pipe Tapered and BSB - British Standard Brass. ALL have a 55 degree thread
pitch angle. Discussion over, and anyone who says otherwise in WRONG! Not
my opinion, just the facts as set forth by the British Standards, so
irrefutable.

Rant over.

Curt Arndt
The fastener authority for the Concours Registry.

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 12:01=E2=80=AFPM Ricchardd Mayor <boyracer466@gmail=
.com>
wrote:

> I have a question for you all regarding Whitworth (55* thread pitch angle=
)
> fasteners.  I have generally referred to both BSW and BSF as Whitworth
> fasteners. But, I have been =E2=80=9Ccorrected=E2=80=9D a number of times=
 over this last
> year by some that say BSF is not Whitworth.  So, is BSF Whitworth, or is =
it
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Richard,</div><div><br></div><div>Great question. and=
 an easy one to answer.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>The British Standard=
s [the ONLY=C2=A0official source] state=C2=A0explicitly that the definition=
 of a Whitworth fastener is one that has a 55 degree thread pitch angle ver=
sus the 60 degrees of UNF/UNC, ANF/ANC, and SAE fine and coarse=C2=A0and th=
e 47-1/2 degree thread pitch of BA - British=C2=A0Association.=C2=A0</div><=
div><br></div><div>Whitworth=C2=A0IS NOT defined and a fastener that uses a=
 Whitworth sized hex head as both BSC British Standard Cycle and CEI Cycle =
Engineers Institute have these heads and use whitworth spanners BUT also ha=
ve threads with a 60 degree pitch angle...=C2=A0<b><font size=3D"4">hence N=
OT whitworth!!!=C2=A0</font></b>Where does the BS [not British Standard] co=
me from? Wikipedia, which is wrong on this subject, something I&#39;ve=C2=
=A0tried to correct for two decades to no avail!</div><div><br></div><div>T=
he five most common whitworth fasteners=C2=A0[yes, there are more] used on =
Austin Healeys are... BSF - British Standard Fine, BSW - British Standard W=
hitworth, BSPP - British Standard Pipe Parallel, BSPT - British Standard Pi=
pe Tapered and BSB - British Standard Brass. ALL have a 55 degree thread pi=
tch angle. Discussion over, and anyone who says otherwise=C2=A0in WRONG! No=
t my opinion, just the facts as set forth by the British Standards, so irre=
futable.</div><div><br></div><div>Rant over.</div><div><br></div><div>Curt =
Arndt</div><div>The fastener authority=C2=A0for the Concours Registry.</div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tu=
e, May 23, 2023 at 12:01=E2=80=AFPM Ricchardd Mayor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:b=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: bre=
ak-word;">I have a question for you all regarding Whitworth (55* thread pit=
ch angle) fasteners.=C2=A0 I have generally referred to both BSW and BSF as=
 Whitworth fasteners. But, I have been =E2=80=9Ccorrected=E2=80=9D a number=
 of times over this last year by some that say BSF is not Whitworth.=C2=A0 =
So, is BSF Whitworth, or is it not?=C2=A0<div><br></div><div><br><div>
Richard=C2=A0Mayor<br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></d=
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Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 12:28:54 -0700

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Richard,

Rant over.

Curt Arndt

)
 over this last
it
> [email-masked]

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Richard,</div><div><br></div><div>Gr=
eat question. and an easy one to answer.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>The=
 British Standards [the ONLY=C2=A0official source] state=C2=A0explicitly th=
at the definition of a Whitworth fastener is one that has a 55 degree threa=
d pitch angle versus the 60 degrees of UNF/UNC, ANF/ANC, and SAE fine and c=
oarse=C2=A0and the 47-1/2 degree thread pitch of BA - British=C2=A0Associat=
ion.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Whitworth=C2=A0IS NOT defined and a fas=
tener that uses a Whitworth sized hex head as both BSC British Standard Cyc=
le and CEI Cycle Engineers Institute have these heads and use whitworth spa=
nners BUT also have threads with a 60 degree pitch angle...=C2=A0<b><font s=
ize=3D"4">hence NOT whitworth!!!=C2=A0</font></b>Where does the BS [not Bri=
tish Standard] come from? Wikipedia, which is wrong on this subject, someth=
ing I&#39;ve=C2=A0tried to correct for two decades to no avail!</div><div><=
br></div><div>The five most common whitworth fasteners=C2=A0[yes, there are=
 more] used on Austin Healeys are... BSF - British Standard Fine, BSW - Bri=
tish Standard Whitworth, BSPP - British Standard Pipe Parallel, BSPT - Brit=
ish Standard Pipe Tapered and BSB - British Standard Brass. ALL have a 55 d=
egree thread pitch angle. Discussion over, and anyone who says otherwise=C2=
=A0in WRONG! Not my opinion, just the facts as set forth by the British Sta=
ndards, so irrefutable.</div><div><br></div><div>Rant over.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Curt Arndt</div><div>The fastener authority=C2=A0for the Concours=
 Registry.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 12:01=E2=80=AFPM Ricchardd Mayor &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=
=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">I have a question for you all regarding Whi=
tworth (55* thread pitch angle) fasteners.=C2=A0 I have generally referred =
to both BSW and BSF as Whitworth fasteners. But, I have been =E2=80=9Ccorre=
cted=E2=80=9D a number of times over this last year by some that say BSF is=
 not Whitworth.=C2=A0 So, is BSF Whitworth, or is it not?=C2=A0<div><br></d=
iv><div><br><div>
Richard=C2=A0Mayor<br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></d=
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Thank you Curt for that explanation. =20

Richard

Richard Mayor
[email-masked]

> On May 23, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Curtis Arndt <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Richard,
>=20
> Great question. and an easy one to answer.=20
>=20
> The British Standards [the ONLY official source] state explicitly that =
the definition of a Whitworth fastener is one that has a 55 degree =
thread pitch angle versus the 60 degrees of UNF/UNC, ANF/ANC, and SAE =
fine and coarse and the 47-1/2 degree thread pitch of BA - British =
Association.=20
>=20
> Whitworth IS NOT defined and a fastener that uses a Whitworth sized =
hex head as both BSC British Standard Cycle and CEI Cycle Engineers =
Institute have these heads and use whitworth spanners BUT also have =
threads with a 60 degree pitch angle... hence NOT whitworth!!! Where =
does the BS [not British Standard] come from? Wikipedia, which is wrong =
on this subject, something I've tried to correct for two decades to no =
avail!
>=20
> The five most common whitworth fasteners [yes, there are more] used on =
Austin Healeys are... BSF - British Standard Fine, BSW - British =
Standard Whitworth, BSPP - British Standard Pipe Parallel, BSPT - =
British Standard Pipe Tapered and BSB - British Standard Brass. ALL have =
a 55 degree thread pitch angle. Discussion over, and anyone who says =
otherwise in WRONG! Not my opinion, just the facts as set forth by the =
British Standards, so irrefutable.
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 12:01=E2=80=AFPM Ricchardd Mayor =
> Richard Mayor

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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Thank you Curt for that explanation. &nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Richard<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
apple-content-edited=3D"true" class=3D"">
Richard&nbsp;Mayor<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">

</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On May 23, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Curtis Arndt &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Richard,</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Great question. and an easy one to answer.&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The British Standards =
[the ONLY&nbsp;official source] state&nbsp;explicitly that the =
definition of a Whitworth fastener is one that has a 55 degree thread =
pitch angle versus the 60 degrees of UNF/UNC, ANF/ANC, and SAE fine and =
coarse&nbsp;and the 47-1/2 degree thread pitch of BA - =
British&nbsp;Association.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Whitworth&nbsp;IS NOT defined and a =
fastener that uses a Whitworth sized hex head as both BSC British =
Standard Cycle and CEI Cycle Engineers Institute have these heads and =
use whitworth spanners BUT also have threads with a 60 degree pitch =
angle...&nbsp;<b class=3D""><font size=3D"4" class=3D"">hence NOT =
whitworth!!!&nbsp;</font></b>Where does the BS [not British Standard] =
come from? Wikipedia, which is wrong on this subject, something =
I've&nbsp;tried to correct for two decades to no avail!</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The five most common =
whitworth fasteners&nbsp;[yes, there are more] used on Austin Healeys =
are... BSF - British Standard Fine, BSW - British Standard Whitworth, =
BSPP - British Standard Pipe Parallel, BSPT - British Standard Pipe =
Tapered and BSB - British Standard Brass. ALL have a 55 degree thread =
pitch angle. Discussion over, and anyone who says otherwise&nbsp;in =
WRONG! Not my opinion, just the facts as set forth by the British =
Standards, so irrefutable.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Rant over.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Curt Arndt</div><div class=3D"">The fastener =
authority&nbsp;for the Concours Registry.</div></div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May =
23, 2023 at 12:01=E2=80=AFPM Ricchardd Mayor &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: =
break-word;" class=3D"">I have a question for you all regarding =
Whitworth (55* thread pitch angle) fasteners.&nbsp; I have generally =
referred to both BSW and BSF as Whitworth fasteners. But, I have been =
=E2=80=9Ccorrected=E2=80=9D a number of times over this last year by =
some that say BSF is not Whitworth.&nbsp; So, is BSF Whitworth, or is it =
not?&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">
Richard&nbsp;Mayor<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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