Subject: Re: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing

From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 19:41:52 -0500

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Al--

Here's a link to the site showing my question and the responses:
https://www.celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149/
The answer is still a mystery to me, and no opinion seems to be based upon
empiric evidence but rather "generally accepted wisdom".

I have a really cool tow rig that attaches to a set of the usual tow eyes
that bolt to the longitudinal frame members.  I've never towed my Healey
much further than 50-75 miles and the car tracks wonderfully with the
steering following along nicely, though one can only tow in a forward
direction.

I'd love to have a definitive answer!

Best--Michael Oritt

On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 6:22=E2=80=AFPM alfuller194--- via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> For those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you confir=
m
> it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground?
>
>
>
> I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don=E2=80=99=
t recall
> having to remove the drive shaft =E2=80=93 but can=E2=80=99t be sure=E2=
=80=A6
>
>
>
> Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether
> the W58 can be flat towed?
>
>
>
> I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas to
> Los Angeles].
>
>
>
> For those of you who don=E2=80=99t actually know and want to speculate: Y=
es, I do
> know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the shaf=
t
> in a way it doesn=E2=80=99t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the car, =
and then
> repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.
>
>
>
> ----------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Al--<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Here&#39;s a link to the site=
=C2=A0showing=C2=A0my question and the responses:=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"htt=
ps://www.celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149/">https://www.=
celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149/</a></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">The answer is still a mystery to me=
, and no opinion seems to be based upon empiric evidence but rather &quot;g=
enerally accepted wisdom&quot;.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333f=
f">I have a really cool tow rig that attaches to a set of the usual tow eye=
s that bolt to the longitudinal frame members.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve never towed m=
y Healey much further than 50-75 miles and the car tracks wonderfully with =
the steering following along nicely, though one can only tow in a forward d=
irection.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I&#39;d love to=
 have a definitive answer!</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color=
:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Be=
st--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 6:22=E2=80=AFPM alfuller194--=
- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div class=3D"msg-6138153041787885950"><div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"=
overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"m_-6138153041787885950WordSection=
1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">For those of you who have converted to the Toyota=
 5-speed: can you confirm it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on t=
he ground? <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across cou=
ntry, and don=E2=80=99t recall having to remove the drive shaft =E2=80=93 b=
ut can=E2=80=99t be sure=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Michael Oritt- Did you ever g=
et an answer on the Celica forum to whether the W58 can be flat towed? <u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las V=
egas to Los Angeles].<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">For those of you who don=E2=80=99t actual=
ly know and want to speculate: Yes, I do know I could jack up the car, disc=
onnect the drive shaft, secure the shaft in a way it doesn=E2=80=99t let th=
e fluid leak out nor fall off the car, and then repeat in the business lot =
where I am delivering the car.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">----------------<u></u><u></u></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">All the best,<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Al Fuller<u></u><u></u><=
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Thanks Michael:

I had seen that post, and did see that there was no answer based on =
experience!

=20

----------------

All the best,

=20

Al Fuller

=20

From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 4:42 PM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: healeys <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing

=20

Al--

=20

Here's a link to the site showing my question and the responses:  =
https://www.celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149/

The answer is still a mystery to me, and no opinion seems to be based =
upon empiric evidence but rather "generally accepted wisdom".

=20

I have a really cool tow rig that attaches to a set of the usual tow =
eyes that bolt to the longitudinal frame members.  I've never towed my =
Healey much further than 50-75 miles and the car tracks wonderfully with =
the steering following along nicely, though one can only tow in a =
forward direction.

=20

=20

Best--Michael Oritt

=20

On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 6:22=E2=80=AFPM alfuller194--- via Healeys =

For those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you =
confirm it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground?=20

=20

I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and =
don=E2=80=99t recall having to remove the drive shaft =E2=80=93 but =
can=E2=80=99t be sure=E2=80=A6

=20

Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether =
the W58 can be flat towed?=20

=20

I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas =
to Los Angeles].

=20

For those of you who don=E2=80=99t actually know and want to speculate: =
Yes, I do know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, =
secure the shaft in a way it doesn=E2=80=99t let the fluid leak out nor =
fall off the car, and then repeat in the business lot where I am =
delivering the car.

=20

----------------

All the best,

=20

Al Fuller

=20

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks =
Michael:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I had seen that post, and =
did see that there was no answer based on experience!<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>----------------<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Al =
Fuller<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Michael Oritt =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 7, 2023 =
4:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 5-Speed =
towing<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Al--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Here's a link to the =
site&nbsp;showing&nbsp;my question and the responses:&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149/"=
>https://www.celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149/</a><o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>The answer is still a mystery to me, and no =
opinion seems to be based upon empiric evidence but rather =
&quot;generally accepted =
wisdom&quot;.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I have a really cool tow =
rig that attaches to a set of the usual tow eyes that bolt to the =
longitudinal frame members.&nbsp; I've never towed my Healey much =
further than 50-75 miles and the car tracks wonderfully with the =
steering following along nicely, though one can only tow in a forward =
direction.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I'd love to have a =
definitive answer!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 6:22=E2=80=AFPM alfuller194--- via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>For those =
of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you confirm it is =
OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground? <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I towed a =
prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don=E2=80=99t recall =
having to remove the drive shaft =E2=80=93 but can=E2=80=99t be =
sure=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Michael =
Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether the W58 =
can be flat towed? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I need to =
tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas to Los =
Angeles].<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>For those =
of you who don=E2=80=99t actually know and want to speculate: Yes, I do =
know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the =
shaft in a way it doesn=E2=80=99t let the fluid leak out nor fall off =
the car, and then repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the =
car.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>------------=
----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>All the =
best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Al =
Fuller<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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I see no reason why you should have  to disconnect the driveshaft.  The =
transmission is full of oil and any rotating part in the transmission as =
it is being towed will splash oil up into the bearings and gears. =
Everything will stay lubricated. And that is all that matters. I believe =
it is automatic transmissions that cannot be flat towed with the =
driveshaft connected.=20

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> I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don=E2=80=99=
t recall having to remove the drive shaft =E2=80=93 but can=E2=80=99t be =
sure=E2=80=A6
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shaft, secure the shaft in a way it doesn=E2=80=99t let the fluid leak =
out nor fall off the car, and then repeat in the business lot where I am =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">I see no reason why you should have &nbsp;to disconnect the =
driveshaft. &nbsp;The transmission is full of oil and any rotating part =
in the transmission as it is being towed will splash oil up into the =
bearings and gears. Everything will stay lubricated. And that is all =
that matters. I believe it is automatic transmissions that cannot be =
flat towed with the driveshaft connected.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Mar 7, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
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class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, =
255);">Al--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, =
51, 255);"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">Here's a link to the =
site&nbsp;showing&nbsp;my question and the responses:&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149/" =
class=3D"">https://www.celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149=
/</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, =
255);">The answer is still a mystery to me, and no opinion seems to be =
based upon empiric evidence but rather "generally accepted =
wisdom".</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, =
255);"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: =
rgb(51, 51, 255);">I have a really cool tow rig that attaches to a set =
of the usual tow eyes that bolt to the longitudinal frame members.&nbsp; =
I've never towed my Healey much further than 50-75 miles and the car =
tracks wonderfully with the steering following along nicely, though one =
can only tow in a forward direction.<br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, =
51, 255);">I'd love to have a definitive answer!</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, =
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class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 6:22=E2=80=AFPM =
alfuller194--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
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style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"m_-6138153041787885950WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">For =
those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you confirm =
it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground?<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I towed a prior Healey with a =
Toyota W58 across country, and don=E2=80=99t recall having to remove the =
drive shaft =E2=80=93 but can=E2=80=99t be sure=E2=80=A6<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Michael =
Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether the W58 =
can be flat towed?<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I need =
to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas to Los =
Angeles].<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
 class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">For =
those of you who don=E2=80=99t actually know and want to speculate: Yes, =
I do know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure =
the shaft in a way it doesn=E2=80=99t let the fluid leak out nor fall =
off the car, and then repeat in the business lot where I am delivering =
the car.<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
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class=3D"MsoNormal">----------------<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">All the best,<u =
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make sure it is in neutral. Sounds scary to me though. I would rather it be
in an enclosed trailer
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie,OR
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          BT7 engine and disk brakes

1967 MGB  

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

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<div dir=3D"ltr">make sure it is in neutral. Sounds scary to me though. I w=
ould rather=C2=A0it be in an enclosed trailer<br clear=3D"all"><div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Milwaukie,OR</div><div><span style=3D"font-family:=
&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;=
Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman=
&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span>=
<br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=
=A0 (_________________________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><d=
iv>1967 MGB =C2=A0<img src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/i=
mages/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=3D"MG"></div><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:14px">A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustme=
nts. Mario Andretti</span><br></div><div>Please excuse random auto corrects=
 and misspelled words</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at =
3:38=E2=80=AFPM alfuller194--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@au=
tox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
 rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg448935742653107203"><d=
iv lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"m_4489=
35742653107203WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">For those of you who hav=
e converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you confirm it is OK to tow the car =
with the rear wheels on the ground? <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I towed a prior Healey wit=
h a Toyota W58 across country, and don=E2=80=99t recall having to remove th=
e drive shaft =E2=80=93 but can=E2=80=99t be sure=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mich=
ael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether the W5=
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or about 300 miles [Las Vegas to Los Angeles].<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D=
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 who don=E2=80=99t actually know and want to speculate: Yes, I do know I co=
uld jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the shaft in a way =
it doesn=E2=80=99t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the car, and then re=
peat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.<u></u><u></u></p><p=
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Thanks Richard, my thoughts too.

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On Tue, Mar 7, 2023, 6:06 PM Ricchardd Mayor <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I see no reason why you should have  to disconnect the driveshaft.  The
it
> is being towed will splash oil up into the bearings and gears. Everything
> will stay lubricated. And that is all that matters. I believe it is
> automatic transmissions that cannot be flat towed with the driveshaft
> connected.
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> [email-masked]
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Michael Oritt <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
> The answer is still a mystery to me, and no opinion seems to be based upo=
n
>> For those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you
>> confirm it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground?
>>
>>
>>
>> I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don=E2=80=
=99t recall
=80=A6
>> I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas t=
o
>> For those of you who don=E2=80=99t actually know and want to speculate: =
Yes, I do
>> know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the sha=
ft
>> in a way it doesn=E2=80=99t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the car,=
 and then
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<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks Richard, my thoughts too.<br><br><div data-smartma=
il=3D"gmail_signature">________________<br>Best Regards,<br>Al Fuller</div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Tue, Mar 7, 2023, 6:06 PM Ricchardd Mayor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">I see no reason why yo=
u should have =C2=A0to disconnect the driveshaft.=C2=A0 The transmission is=
 full of oil and any rotating part in the transmission as it is being towed=
 will splash oil up into the bearings and gears. Everything will stay lubri=
cated. And that is all that matters. I believe it is automatic transmission=
s that cannot be flat towed with the driveshaft connected.=C2=A0<div><br></=
div><div><br><div>
Richard=C2=A0Mayor<br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a><br><br>

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<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Mar 7, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Michael=
 Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;=
font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:no=
rmal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norma=
l;word-spacing:0px"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,2=
55)">Al--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Here&=
#39;s a link to the site=C2=A0showing=C2=A0my question and the responses:=
=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-ques=
tion.120149/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.celicasupra.=
com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149/</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">The answer is still a mystery to me, and=
 no opinion seems to be based upon empiric evidence but rather &quot;genera=
lly accepted wisdom&quot;.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color=
:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(=
51,51,255)">I have a really cool tow rig that attaches to a set of the usua=
l tow eyes that bolt to the longitudinal frame members.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve neve=
r towed my Healey much further than 50-75 miles and the car tracks wonderfu=
lly with the steering following along nicely, though one can only tow in a =
forward direction.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb=
(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,5=
1,255)">I&#39;d love to have a definitive answer!</div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br style=
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ne;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 6:22=E2=80=AFPM alfuller194--- via Healeys &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
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-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div=
 lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">For those of you who have conve=
rted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you confirm it is OK to tow the car with th=
e rear wheels on the ground?<span>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I towed a pri=
or Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don=E2=80=99t recall having=
 to remove the drive shaft =E2=80=93 but can=E2=80=99t be sure=E2=80=A6<u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
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=3D"MsoNormal">For those of you who don=E2=80=99t actually know and want to=
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aft, secure the shaft in a way it doesn=E2=80=99t let the fluid leak out no=
r fall off the car, and then repeat in the business lot where I am deliveri=
ng the car.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
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Yes, it will be in neutral. I was once present when someone started a tow
with the car in gear - the engine made quite a racquet!

As for scary, not much one can do sometimes... I towed my BT-7 from
California to Detroit years ago on a tow dolly. Last year towed the Rx-7
from Detroit to Las Vegas on an open trailer. No problem on either trip.

________________
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On Tue, Mar 7, 2023, 8:17 PM i erbs <[email-masked]> wrote:

> make sure it is in neutral. Sounds scary to me though. I would rather it
> be in an enclosed trailer
> Ira Erbs
> Milwaukie,OR
>       _______                                  _______
=99t recall
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o
Yes, I do
ft
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<div dir=3D"auto">Yes, it will be in neutral. I was once present when someo=
ne started a tow with the car in gear - the engine made quite a racquet!<di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">As for scary, not much one can d=
o sometimes... I towed my BT-7 from California to Detroit years ago on a to=
w dolly. Last year towed the Rx-7 from Detroit to Las Vegas on an open trai=
ler. No problem on either trip.=C2=A0<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_s=
ignature" dir=3D"auto">________________<br>Best Regards,<br>Al Fuller</div>=
</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Tue, Mar 7, 2023, 8:17 PM i erbs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@g=
mail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">make sure it is in neutral. Sounds scary to me t=
hough. I would rather=C2=A0it be in an enclosed trailer<br clear=3D"all"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"=
font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#3=
9;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (__________=
_______________)</span></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 en=
gine and disk brakes</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>1967 MGB =C2=
=A0<img src=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem=
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ize:14px">A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andr=
etti</span><br></div><div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled=
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iv></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 3:38=E2=80=AFPM=
 alfuller194--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang=3D=
"EN-US"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">For those of you who have converted to =
the Toyota 5-speed: can you confirm it is OK to tow the car with the rear w=
heels on the ground? <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 =
across country, and don=E2=80=99t recall having to remove the drive shaft =
=E2=80=93 but can=E2=80=99t be sure=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Michael Oritt- Did=
 you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether the W58 can be flat =
towed? <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 m=
iles [Las Vegas to Los Angeles].<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">For those of you who don=E2=80=
=99t actually know and want to speculate: Yes, I do know I could jack up th=
e car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the shaft in a way it doesn=E2=80=
=99t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the car, and then repeat in the bu=
siness lot where I am delivering the car.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">----------------<u></=
u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">All the best,<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Al Fuller<u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div>__=
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Cheers. I have towed cars in frightening ways, back in the day

Ira Erbs

> from Detroit to Las Vegas on an open trailer. No problem on either trip.
=99t
>>> recall having to remove the drive shaft =E2=80=93 but can=E2=80=99t be =
sure=E2=80=A6
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whethe=
r
>>> I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas
>>> to Los Angeles].
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For those of you who don=E2=80=99t actually know and want to speculate:=
 Yes, I
>>> do know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the
>>> shaft in a way it doesn=E2=80=99t let the fluid leak out nor fall off t=
he car, and
>>> then repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Al Fuller
>>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Cheers. I have towed cars in frightening ways, back in th=
e day<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Ira Erbs</div></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, =
Mar 7, 2023, 9:11 PM Al Fuller &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x"><div dir=3D"auto">Yes, it will be in neutral. I was once present when so=
meone started a tow with the car in gear - the engine made quite a racquet!=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">As for scary, not much one ca=
n do sometimes... I towed my BT-7 from California to Detroit years ago on a=
 tow dolly. Last year towed the Rx-7 from Detroit to Las Vegas on an open t=
railer. No problem on either trip.=C2=A0<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmai=
l_signature" dir=3D"auto">________________<br>Best Regards,<br>Al Fuller</d=
iv></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Tue, Mar 7, 2023, 8:17 PM i erbs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyera300=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">make sur=
e it is in neutral. Sounds scary to me though. I would rather=C2=A0it be in=
 an enclosed trailer<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-smartmail=
=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Milwaukie,OR</div><div>=
<span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
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r style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font=
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959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#=
39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span></div><div=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</div><div><b=
r></div><div><br></div><div>1967 MGB =C2=A0<img src=3D"http://www.britishca=
rspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=3D"MG"></div><div><br></d=
iv><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue=
&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A racing car is an animal=
 with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><br></div><div>Please ex=
cuse random auto corrects and misspelled words</div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><b=
r></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 3:38=E2=80=AFPM alfuller194--- via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">For those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can =
you confirm it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground? <u>=
</u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don=
=E2=80=99t recall having to remove the drive shaft =E2=80=93 but can=E2=80=
=99t be sure=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer=
 on the Celica forum to whether the W58 can be flat towed? <u></u><u></u></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I n=
eed to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas to Los =
Angeles].<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">For those of you who don=E2=80=99t actually know and =
want to speculate: Yes, I do know I could jack up the car, disconnect the d=
rive shaft, secure the shaft in a way it doesn=E2=80=99t let the fluid leak=
 out nor fall off the car, and then repeat in the business lot where I am d=
elivering the car.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">----------------<u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">All the best,<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Al Fuller<u></u><u></u></p><p clas=
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Al:  From experience:  I have towed my BJ8 on several long trips to Healey =
meets.  Disconnecting the drive shaft was recommended.  I never did.  I did=
 add a oil to the transmission to assure that it was full to the line on th=
e dip stick or a little over.  II you are towing with the top down and a to=
nneau cover installed, do not cover the steering wheel with the tonneau.  I=
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was recommended.&nbsp; I never did.&nbsp; I did add a oil to the transmissi=
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There is no problem at all towing a car with a manual gearbox. No need 
to remove the drive shaft. So you will be fine with the Toyota box.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 8-3-2023 om 00:19 schreef alfuller194--- via Healeys:
> I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don’t 
> recall having to remove the drive shaft – but can’t be sure…
>
> Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to 
> whether the W58 can be flat towed?
>
> For those of you who don’t actually know and want to speculate: Yes, I 
> do know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure 
> the shaft in a way it doesn’t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the 
> car, and then repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.
>
> ----------------
>
> All the best,
>
> Al Fuller
>
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    <p>There is no problem at all towing a car with a manual gearbox. No
      need to remove the drive shaft. So you will be fine with the
      Toyota box.<br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 8-3-2023 om 00:19 schreef
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        <p class="MsoNormal">For those of you who have converted to the
          Toyota 5-speed: can you confirm it is OK to tow the car with
          the rear wheels on the ground? <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58
          across country, and don’t recall having to remove the drive
          shaft – but can’t be sure…<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer
          on the Celica forum to whether the W58 can be flat towed? <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for
          about 300 miles [Las Vegas to Los Angeles].<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">For those of you who don’t actually know
          and want to speculate: Yes, I do know I could jack up the car,
          disconnect the drive shaft, secure the shaft in a way it
          doesn’t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the car, and then
          repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">----------------<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">All the best,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Al Fuller<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Al Fuller via Healeys <[email-masked]>
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Len- good to know your 5-speed had no issues. I'll keep the tonneau cover
off the steering wheel.

________________
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

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> Al:  From experience:  I have towed my BJ8 on several long trips to Healey
> meets.  Disconnecting the drive shaft was recommended.  I never did.  I did
> add a oil to the transmission to assure that it was full to the line on the
> dip stick or a little over.  II you are towing with the top down and a
> tonneau cover installed, do not cover the steering wheel with the tonneau.
> It will prevent the steerng wheel and wheels from turning when going around
> corners.
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