Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 15, Issue 293

From: wdavid890dd--- via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 00:08:20 +0000 (UTC)

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Misfire issue
I suspect that the weight of the fuel is causing a ground to go away. When =
the tank is light it reappears. That=E2=80=99s my hunch.=C2=A0Good luck,Dav=
e Walsh

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Today's Topics:

=C2=A0 1. Re: Greasing the Driveshaft U Joint (John Spaur)
=C2=A0 2. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Jim Ryan)
=C2=A0 3. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Alan Wasserman)
=C2=A0 4. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Michael Oritt)
=C2=A0 5. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Alan Seigrist)
=C2=A0 6. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Michael Salter)
=C2=A0 7. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Michael Oritt)
=C2=A0 8. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)
=C2=A0 9. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Alan Seigrist)
=C2=A0 10. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Roland Wilhelmy)
=C2=A0 11. Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. ([email-masked])
=C2=A0 12. Re: ignition warning light (Mark Donaldson)
=C2=A0 13. Re: ignition warning light ([email-masked])
=C2=A0 14. Re: ignition warning light (Mark Donaldson)
=C2=A0 15. Re: ignition warning light ([email-masked])
=C2=A0 16. Ignition warning light (Ian Hey)
=C2=A0 17. Re: Ignition warning light (Warren Dietz)
=C2=A0 18. Re: Ignition warning light ([email-masked])
=C2=A0 19. BN2 side curtain rivet type (S and T Miller)
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They are typically 1=E2=80=9D long.

 =C2=A0

John

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Harold M=
anifold
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 9:32 AM
To: Healey List <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] Greasing the Driveshaft U Joint

 =C2=A0

Hello,

 =C2=A0

My Healey is nearing completion and after installing the driveshaft I tried=
 to grease the U-Joint only to find the nozzle=C2=A0on my grease gun is too=
 large to fit into the u-joint. Is there a grease gun with a narrow nozzle =
or a narrow nozzle extension? I replaced the u-joints and used the grease f=
ittings that came with the new joints. Should the grease=C2=A0nipples (zerk=
 fitting) be changed=C2=A0to the longer ones?

 =C2=A0

Thanks... Harold

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0
What happens if you don't turn the car off when you fill it up?
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 11:07 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <[email-masked]=
.net> wrote:

I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the ta=
nk intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again.=C2=A0 Class=
ic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.

Don

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

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From: Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM
To: Alan Seigrist
Cc: Healey list
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.

=C2=A0

Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thou=
ght. I will be sure to check all suggestions.=C2=A0

I=C2=A0 should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing=
 of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused.=C2=A0

This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.

I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of=
 filling the tank.

Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem becaus=
e the amount of engine power being used has no effect.

Totally baffled.

Thanks again to all ... I'll=C2=A0 report back.

=C2=A0

On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

Hi John -

=C2=A0

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad =
interpretation!=C2=A0 As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"

=C2=A0

Cheers,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <[email-masked]> wrote:

Alan

=C2=A0

Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had t=
hese symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had ru=
n out through a very small=C2=A0crack in the bottom of the case.

=C2=A0

On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]> wrote:

Michael -

Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f=C2=A0=C2=A0...=C2=A0
  =20
   - whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anyt=
hing related to fuel or the coil
   - whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude any=
thing related to fuel
   - whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anyth=
ing related to fuel
   - somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - sugges=
ts to me wiring / ground issues

Given this I'd check (as a priority):
  =20
   - Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)
   - primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the conne=
ctions)
   - motor ground straps (cycle the connections)
   - loose wires in the dizzy
   - loose ignition=C2=A0wires into the dizzy or spark plug

Other things to possibly do (as secondary):
  =20
   - replace rotor
   - replace dizzy cap

I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would e=
ither be very regular=C2=A0all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

re: "... I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distribut=
or wire ..."

It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.

On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:

Hi Michael -

=C2=A0

Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition =
switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.

=C2=A0

You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the co=
il from the battery master switch - if it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll =
get weird symptoms like this.=C2=A0 If that wire is disconnected the car sh=
ould run no problem.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate =
from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t you=E2=80=99ll have to disco=
nnect it from underneath the master switch itself.

=C2=A0

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

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How old are your plug wires? =C2=A0Any chance a few worn out wires be the o=
rigin?

Alan [email-masked]

On Sep 28, 2022, at 6:24 PM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

=EF=BB=BF

This problem has plagued me for over 1000 miles.

Today I had to drive some 200 miles and this is how it went:

Starting from cold I experienced a persistent and irregular misfire.

Pulling the choke out made no perceivable difference.

Power was not much affected and the car cruised along wellin top overdrive =
with just regular periods of misfiring.

Climbing slopes really made no difference, even when fullthrottle was appli=
ed for 10 - 15 seconds.

Misfire continued for some 90 miles with no change when theengine was fully=
 heated up.

I could really do nothing to influence the rate of themisfire although it d=
id seem to be slightly less evident at low throttlesettings.

After 90 miles I stopped briefly to get fuel and uponstarting off it was qu=
ite evident that the misfire had disappeared almost completelyand remained =
that way for at least 80 miles after which it started to misfirejust a litt=
le as I came to the end of the trip.

=C2=A0POSSIBLE CAUSES

1.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Plugs =E2=80=A6 not like a bad plug. The mi=
sfire seemsto be more than 1 cylinder and never came close to being the reg=
ular beat that 1plug misfiring produces. All the plugs have a healthy brown=
/ grey appearance.

2.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Coil =E2=80=A6=C2=A0 Inmy experience coils =
are very reliable but when they do fail they tend to failas they warm up an=
d the problem gets worse as the coil warms up

3.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Points =E2=80=A6 a possibility but the dwel=
l is set atexactly 60 degrees and does not waver at all when the engine is =
running in theshop.

4.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Fuel pump =E2=80=A6 if the engine was starv=
ing for fuelbecause of a fuel supply issue caused by a blockage or failing =
pump the problemwould get worse when the demand for fuel increased, as in c=
limbing a hill offull throttle. This was absolutely not the case.

Any ideas folks?

I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tan=
k.=C2=A0 It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the e=
ngine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.=C2=A0 When I ei=
ther got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparentl=
y fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was=
 once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc.=C2=A0
I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, sear=
ched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I r=
emoved it the miss went away.=C2=A0 How the leaf got into the tank when the=
 fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.
Best--Michael Oritt

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <[email-masked]=
am.net> wrote:

I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the ta=
nk intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again.=C2=A0 Class=
ic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.

Don

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Sent from Mail for Windows

=C2=A0

From: Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM
To: Alan Seigrist
Cc: Healey list
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.

=C2=A0

Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thou=
ght. I will be sure to check all suggestions.=C2=A0

I=C2=A0 should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing=
 of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused.=C2=A0

This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.

I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of=
 filling the tank.

Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem becaus=
e the amount of engine power being used has no effect.

Totally baffled.

Thanks again to all ... I'll=C2=A0 report back.

=C2=A0

On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

Hi John -

=C2=A0

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad =
interpretation!=C2=A0 As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"

=C2=A0

Cheers,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <[email-masked]> wrote:

Alan

=C2=A0

Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had t=
hese symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had ru=
n out through a very small=C2=A0crack in the bottom of the case.

=C2=A0

On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]> wrote:

Michael -

Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f=C2=A0=C2=A0...=C2=A0
  =20
   - whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anyt=
hing related to fuel or the coil
   - whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude any=
thing related to fuel
   - whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anyth=
ing related to fuel
   - somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - sugges=
ts to me wiring / ground issues

Given this I'd check (as a priority):
  =20
   - Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)
   - primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the conne=
ctions)
   - motor ground straps (cycle the connections)
   - loose wires in the dizzy
   - loose ignition=C2=A0wires into the dizzy or spark plug

Other things to possibly do (as secondary):
  =20
   - replace rotor
   - replace dizzy cap

I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would e=
ither be very regular=C2=A0all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

re: "... I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distribut=
or wire ..."

It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.

On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:

Hi Michael -

=C2=A0

Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition =
switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.

=C2=A0

You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the co=
il from the battery master switch - if it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll =
get weird symptoms like this.=C2=A0 If that wire is disconnected the car sh=
ould run no problem.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate =
from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t you=E2=80=99ll have to disco=
nnect it from underneath the master switch itself.

=C2=A0

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

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Good point.=C2=A0 I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly use=
d high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn=E2=80=99t kno=
w that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermitten=
tly.
On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tan=
k.=C2=A0 It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the e=
ngine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.=C2=A0 When I ei=
ther got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparentl=
y fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was=
 once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc.=C2=A0
I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, sear=
ched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I r=
emoved it the miss went away.=C2=A0 How the leaf got into the tank when the=
 fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.
Best--Michael Oritt

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <[email-masked]=
am.net> wrote:

I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the ta=
nk intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again.=C2=A0 Class=
ic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.

Don

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Sent from Mail for Windows

=C2=A0

From: Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM
To: Alan Seigrist
Cc: Healey list
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.

=C2=A0

Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thou=
ght. I will be sure to check all suggestions.=C2=A0

I=C2=A0 should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing=
 of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused.=C2=A0

This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.

I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of=
 filling the tank.

Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem becaus=
e the amount of engine power being used has no effect.

Totally baffled.

Thanks again to all ... I'll=C2=A0 report back.

=C2=A0

On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

Hi John -

=C2=A0

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad =
interpretation!=C2=A0 As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"

=C2=A0

Cheers,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <[email-masked]> wrote:

Alan

=C2=A0

Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had t=
hese symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had ru=
n out through a very small=C2=A0crack in the bottom of the case.

=C2=A0

On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]> wrote:

Michael -

Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f=C2=A0=C2=A0...=C2=A0
  =20
   - whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anyt=
hing related to fuel or the coil
   - whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude any=
thing related to fuel
   - whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anyth=
ing related to fuel
   - somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - sugges=
ts to me wiring / ground issues

Given this I'd check (as a priority):
  =20
   - Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)
   - primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the conne=
ctions)
   - motor ground straps (cycle the connections)
   - loose wires in the dizzy
   - loose ignition=C2=A0wires into the dizzy or spark plug

Other things to possibly do (as secondary):
  =20
   - replace rotor
   - replace dizzy cap

I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would e=
ither be very regular=C2=A0all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

re: "... I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distribut=
or wire ..."

It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.

On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:

Hi Michael -

=C2=A0

Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition =
switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.

=C2=A0

You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the co=
il from the battery master switch - if it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll =
get weird symptoms like this.=C2=A0 If that wire is disconnected the car sh=
ould run no problem.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate =
from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t you=E2=80=99ll have to disco=
nnect it from underneath the master switch itself.

=C2=A0

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

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BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change in =
the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause.=C2=A0I'm =
starting to think that the refueling situation is something of a "red herri=
ng" although it certainly is an odd one.
On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

Good point.=C2=A0 I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly use=
d high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn=E2=80=99t kno=
w that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermitten=
tly.
On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tan=
k.=C2=A0 It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the e=
ngine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.=C2=A0 When I ei=
ther got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparentl=
y fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was=
 once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc.=C2=A0
I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, sear=
ched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I r=
emoved it the miss went away.=C2=A0 How the leaf got into the tank when the=
 fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.
Best--Michael Oritt

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <[email-masked]=
am.net> wrote:

I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the ta=
nk intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again.=C2=A0 Class=
ic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.

Don

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Sent from Mail for Windows

=C2=A0

From: Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM
To: Alan Seigrist
Cc: Healey list
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.

=C2=A0

Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thou=
ght. I will be sure to check all suggestions.=C2=A0

I=C2=A0 should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing=
 of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused.=C2=A0

This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.

I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of=
 filling the tank.

Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem becaus=
e the amount of engine power being used has no effect.

Totally baffled.

Thanks again to all ... I'll=C2=A0 report back.

=C2=A0

On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

Hi John -

=C2=A0

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad =
interpretation!=C2=A0 As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"

=C2=A0

Cheers,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <[email-masked]> wrote:

Alan

=C2=A0

Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had t=
hese symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had ru=
n out through a very small=C2=A0crack in the bottom of the case.

=C2=A0

On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]> wrote:

Michael -

Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f=C2=A0=C2=A0...=C2=A0
  =20
   - whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anyt=
hing related to fuel or the coil
   - whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude any=
thing related to fuel
   - whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anyth=
ing related to fuel
   - somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - sugges=
ts to me wiring / ground issues

Given this I'd check (as a priority):
  =20
   - Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)
   - primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the conne=
ctions)
   - motor ground straps (cycle the connections)
   - loose wires in the dizzy
   - loose ignition=C2=A0wires into the dizzy or spark plug

Other things to possibly do (as secondary):
  =20
   - replace rotor
   - replace dizzy cap

I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would e=
ither be very regular=C2=A0all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

re: "... I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distribut=
or wire ..."

It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.

On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:

Hi Michael -

=C2=A0

Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition =
switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.

=C2=A0

You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the co=
il from the battery master switch - if it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll =
get weird symptoms like this.=C2=A0 If that wire is disconnected the car sh=
ould run no problem.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate =
from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t you=E2=80=99ll have to disco=
nnect it from underneath the master switch itself.

=C2=A0

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

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Michael--
You have to remember that when talking about problems with a Healey=C2=A0th=
e=C2=A0unlikely sometimes becomes probable.=C2=A0 If you haven't already do=
ne so I would suggest that you drain and flush the tank either in situ or o=
ut of the car.=C2=A0
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 10:02 PM Michael Salter <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change in =
the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause.=C2=A0I'm =
starting to think that the refueling situation is something of a "red herri=
ng" although it certainly is an odd one.
On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

Good point.=C2=A0 I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly use=
d high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn=E2=80=99t kno=
w that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermitten=
tly.
On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tan=
k.=C2=A0 It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the e=
ngine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.=C2=A0 When I ei=
ther got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparentl=
y fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was=
 once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc.=C2=A0
I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, sear=
ched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I r=
emoved it the miss went away.=C2=A0 How the leaf got into the tank when the=
 fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.
Best--Michael Oritt

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <[email-masked]=
am.net> wrote:

I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the ta=
nk intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again.=C2=A0 Class=
ic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.

Don

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Sent from Mail for Windows

=C2=A0

From: Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM
To: Alan Seigrist
Cc: Healey list
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.

=C2=A0

Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thou=
ght. I will be sure to check all suggestions.=C2=A0

I=C2=A0 should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing=
 of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused.=C2=A0

This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.

I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of=
 filling the tank.

Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem becaus=
e the amount of engine power being used has no effect.

Totally baffled.

Thanks again to all ... I'll=C2=A0 report back.

=C2=A0

On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

Hi John -

=C2=A0

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad =
interpretation!=C2=A0 As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"

=C2=A0

Cheers,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <[email-masked]> wrote:

Alan

=C2=A0

Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had t=
hese symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had ru=
n out through a very small=C2=A0crack in the bottom of the case.

=C2=A0

On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]> wrote:

Michael -

Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f=C2=A0=C2=A0...=C2=A0
  =20
   - whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anyt=
hing related to fuel or the coil
   - whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude any=
thing related to fuel
   - whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anyth=
ing related to fuel
   - somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - sugges=
ts to me wiring / ground issues

Given this I'd check (as a priority):
  =20
   - Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)
   - primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the conne=
ctions)
   - motor ground straps (cycle the connections)
   - loose wires in the dizzy
   - loose ignition=C2=A0wires into the dizzy or spark plug

Other things to possibly do (as secondary):
  =20
   - replace rotor
   - replace dizzy cap

I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would e=
ither be very regular=C2=A0all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

re: "... I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distribut=
or wire ..."

It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.

On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:

Hi Michael -

=C2=A0

Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition =
switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.

=C2=A0

You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the co=
il from the battery master switch - if it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll =
get weird symptoms like this.=C2=A0 If that wire is disconnected the car sh=
ould run no problem.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate =
from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t you=E2=80=99ll have to disco=
nnect it from underneath the master switch itself.

=C2=A0

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

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 Check for a pin hole in the fuel pickup tube.
Bill LawrenceBN1#554From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behal=
f of Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 2:01 AM
To: Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]>
Cc: Healey list <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.=C2=A0BUT ... th=
e fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change in the amount=
 of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause.=C2=A0I'm starting t=
o think that the refueling situation is something of a "red herring" althou=
gh it certainly is an odd one.
On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

Good point.=C2=A0 I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly use=
d high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn=E2=80=99t kno=
w that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermitten=
tly.
On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tan=
k.=C2=A0 It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the e=
ngine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.=C2=A0 When I ei=
ther got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparentl=
y fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was=
 once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc.=C2=A0
I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, sear=
ched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I r=
emoved it the miss went away.=C2=A0 How the leaf got into the tank when the=
 fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.
Best--Michael Oritt

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <[email-masked]=
am.net> wrote:

I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the ta=
nk intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again.=C2=A0 Class=
ic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.

Don

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Sent from Mail for Windows

=C2=A0

From: Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM
To: Alan Seigrist
Cc: Healey list
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.

=C2=A0

Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thou=
ght. I will be sure to check all suggestions.=C2=A0

I=C2=A0 should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing=
 of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused.=C2=A0

This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.

I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of=
 filling the tank.

Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem becaus=
e the amount of engine power being used has no effect.

Totally baffled.

Thanks again to all ... I'll=C2=A0 report back.

=C2=A0

On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

Hi John -

=C2=A0

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad =
interpretation!=C2=A0 As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"

=C2=A0

Cheers,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <[email-masked]> wrote:

Alan

=C2=A0

Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had t=
hese symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had ru=
n out through a very small=C2=A0crack in the bottom of the case.

=C2=A0

On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]> wrote:

Michael -

Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f=C2=A0=C2=A0...=C2=A0
  =20
   - whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anyt=
hing related to fuel or the coil
   - whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude any=
thing related to fuel
   - whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anyth=
ing related to fuel
   - somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - sugges=
ts to me wiring / ground issues

Given this I'd check (as a priority):
  =20
   - Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)
   - primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the conne=
ctions)
   - motor ground straps (cycle the connections)
   - loose wires in the dizzy
   - loose ignition=C2=A0wires into the dizzy or spark plug

Other things to possibly do (as secondary):
  =20
   - replace rotor
   - replace dizzy cap

I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would e=
ither be very regular=C2=A0all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

re: "... I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distribut=
or wire ..."

It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.

On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:

Hi Michael -

=C2=A0

Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition =
switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.

=C2=A0

You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the co=
il from the battery master switch - if it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll =
get weird symptoms like this.=C2=A0 If that wire is disconnected the car sh=
ould run no problem.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate =
from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t you=E2=80=99ll have to disco=
nnect it from underneath the master switch itself.

=C2=A0

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

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If the bits are floating around in the tank sometimes they are away from th=
e pick up, other times they are stuck on the pickup.=C2=A0 It acts like a l=
ittle flapper valve that=C2=A0can float loose from time to time,=C2=A0and f=
inds its way back to the pickup as fuel is=C2=A0being=C2=A0drawn to the eng=
ine.=C2=A0 Good to use an endoscope and check the tank.=C2=A0=C2=A0

I'm still leaning toward bad battery=C2=A0master or bad wire connection som=
ewhere.=C2=A0 Also if lights are dim, clean the battery contacts.
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:02 AM Michael Salter <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change in =
the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause.=C2=A0I'm =
starting to think that the refueling situation is something of a "red herri=
ng" although it certainly is an odd one.
On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

Good point.=C2=A0 I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly use=
d high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn=E2=80=99t kno=
w that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermitten=
tly.
On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tan=
k.=C2=A0 It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the e=
ngine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.=C2=A0 When I ei=
ther got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparentl=
y fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was=
 once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc.=C2=A0
I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, sear=
ched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I r=
emoved it the miss went away.=C2=A0 How the leaf got into the tank when the=
 fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.
Best--Michael Oritt

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <[email-masked]=
am.net> wrote:

I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the ta=
nk intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again.=C2=A0 Class=
ic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.

Don

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Sent from Mail for Windows

=C2=A0

From: Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM
To: Alan Seigrist
Cc: Healey list
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.

=C2=A0

Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thou=
ght. I will be sure to check all suggestions.=C2=A0

I=C2=A0 should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing=
 of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused.=C2=A0

This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.

I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of=
 filling the tank.

Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem becaus=
e the amount of engine power being used has no effect.

Totally baffled.

Thanks again to all ... I'll=C2=A0 report back.

=C2=A0

On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

Hi John -

=C2=A0

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad =
interpretation!=C2=A0 As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"

=C2=A0

Cheers,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <[email-masked]> wrote:

Alan

=C2=A0

Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had t=
hese symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had ru=
n out through a very small=C2=A0crack in the bottom of the case.

=C2=A0

On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]> wrote:

Michael -

Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f=C2=A0=C2=A0...=C2=A0
  =20
   - whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anyt=
hing related to fuel or the coil
   - whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude any=
thing related to fuel
   - whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anyth=
ing related to fuel
   - somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - sugges=
ts to me wiring / ground issues

Given this I'd check (as a priority):
  =20
   - Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)
   - primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the conne=
ctions)
   - motor ground straps (cycle the connections)
   - loose wires in the dizzy
   - loose ignition=C2=A0wires into the dizzy or spark plug

Other things to possibly do (as secondary):
  =20
   - replace rotor
   - replace dizzy cap

I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would e=
ither be very regular=C2=A0all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

re: "... I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distribut=
or wire ..."

It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.

On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:

Hi Michael -

=C2=A0

Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition =
switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.

=C2=A0

You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the co=
il from the battery master switch - if it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll =
get weird symptoms like this.=C2=A0 If that wire is disconnected the car sh=
ould run no problem.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate =
from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t you=E2=80=99ll have to disco=
nnect it from underneath the master switch itself.

=C2=A0

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

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So what is unique to a fuel stop besides the fuel?=C2=A0 Adding weight to t=
he boot area, opening the boot lid, removing the filler cap.=C2=A0 What els=
e?
An unvented filler cap could restrict fuel flow.=C2=A0 Extra weight=C2=A0 a=
nd even opening the boot lid could shift some recalcitrant ground or other =
connection or loose shorted wire. Maybe even at the battery switch.=C2=A0-R=
oland
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 8:12 PM Michael Salter <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:

BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change in =
the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause.=C2=A0I'm =
starting to think that the refueling situation is something of a "red herri=
ng" although it certainly is an odd one.
On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

Good point.=C2=A0 I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly use=
d high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn=E2=80=99t kno=
w that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermitten=
tly.
On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt <[email-masked]> wro=
te:

I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tan=
k.=C2=A0 It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the e=
ngine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.=C2=A0 When I ei=
ther got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparentl=
y fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was=
 once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc.=C2=A0
I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, sear=
ched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I r=
emoved it the miss went away.=C2=A0 How the leaf got into the tank when the=
 fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.
Best--Michael Oritt

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys <[email-masked]=
am.net> wrote:

I suspect that when the tank is filled any sediment or debris around the ta=
nk intake is redistributed thru the fuel then it settles again.=C2=A0 Class=
ic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment in tank.

Don

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Sent from Mail for Windows

=C2=A0

From: Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM
To: Alan Seigrist
Cc: Healey list
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.

=C2=A0

Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thou=
ght. I will be sure to check all suggestions.=C2=A0

I=C2=A0 should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing=
 of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused.=C2=A0

This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.

I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of=
 filling the tank.

Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem becaus=
e the amount of engine power being used has no effect.

Totally baffled.

Thanks again to all ... I'll=C2=A0 report back.

=C2=A0

On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

Hi John -

=C2=A0

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad =
interpretation!=C2=A0 As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"

=C2=A0

Cheers,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <[email-masked]> wrote:

Alan

=C2=A0

Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had t=
hese symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had ru=
n out through a very small=C2=A0crack in the bottom of the case.

=C2=A0

On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]> wrote:

Michael -

Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f=C2=A0=C2=A0...=C2=A0
  =20
   - whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anyt=
hing related to fuel or the coil
   - whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude any=
thing related to fuel
   - whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anyth=
ing related to fuel
   - somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - sugges=
ts to me wiring / ground issues

Given this I'd check (as a priority):
  =20
   - Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)
   - primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the conne=
ctions)
   - motor ground straps (cycle the connections)
   - loose wires in the dizzy
   - loose ignition=C2=A0wires into the dizzy or spark plug

Other things to possibly do (as secondary):
  =20
   - replace rotor
   - replace dizzy cap

I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would e=
ither be very regular=C2=A0all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

re: "... I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distribut=
or wire ..."

It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.

On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:

Hi Michael -

=C2=A0

Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition =
switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.

=C2=A0

You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the co=
il from the battery master switch - if it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll =
get weird symptoms like this.=C2=A0 If that wire is disconnected the car sh=
ould run no problem.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate =
from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t you=E2=80=99ll have to disco=
nnect it from underneath the master switch itself.

=C2=A0

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

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Hello Mike,

I still suspect the master switch, or the white/black wire to it.

To check this, just take the white/black wire off the distributer and coil.=
 And instead make a temporary connection (wire) from coil to distributer. A=
nd now make a test drive.

=C2=A0

Cheers,

=C2=A0

Josef Eckert

Konigswinter/GERMANY

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM
To: Alan Seigrist
Cc: Healey list
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.

=C2=A0

Thanks to all who have obviously given this misfire issue considerable thou=
ght. I will be sure to check all suggestions.=C2=A0

I=C2=A0 should like to point out however that it is the immediate vanishing=
 of the misfire after filling the fuel tank that has me confused.=C2=A0

This has happened three times simce the problem appeared.

I just don't understand how an ignition problem could change as a result of=
 filling the tank.

Furthermore I'm convinced that this is not a fuel starvation problem becaus=
e the amount of engine power being used has no effect.

Totally baffled.

Thanks again to all ... I'll=C2=A0 report back.

=C2=A0

On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan Seigrist via Healeys, <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

Hi John -

=C2=A0

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make, sorry if it fell through bad =
interpretation!=C2=A0 As Ed McMahon used to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"

=C2=A0

Cheers,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john harper <[email-masked]> wrote:

Alan

=C2=A0

Coils can fail with heat and then recover when cooled. I had one that had t=
hese symptoms and when looking closely I saw that the insulating oil had ru=
n out through a very small=C2=A0crack in the bottom of the case.

=C2=A0

On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]> wrote:

Michael -

Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f=C2=A0=C2=A0...=C2=A0
  =20
   - whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anyt=
hing related to fuel or the coil
   - whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude any=
thing related to fuel
   - whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anyth=
ing related to fuel
   - somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - sugges=
ts to me wiring / ground issues

Given this I'd check (as a priority):
  =20
   - Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)
   - primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the conne=
ctions)
   - motor ground straps (cycle the connections)
   - loose wires in the dizzy
   - loose ignition=C2=A0wires into the dizzy or spark plug

Other things to possibly do (as secondary):
  =20
   - replace rotor
   - replace dizzy cap

I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would e=
ither be very regular=C2=A0all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <[email-masked]> wrote:

re: "... I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distribut=
or wire ..."

It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.

On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:

Hi Michael -

=C2=A0

Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignition =
switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.

=C2=A0

You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the co=
il from the battery master switch - if it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll =
get weird symptoms like this.=C2=A0 If that wire is disconnected the car sh=
ould run no problem.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate =
from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t you=E2=80=99ll have to disco=
nnect it from underneath the master switch itself.

=C2=A0

Best,

=C2=A0

Alan

=C2=A0

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Gary, and Simon,

I bought some last year for my BN2 and tri-carb.=C2=A0 They are 12v LEDs in=
 GREEN.=C2=A0 I can now easily see the direction indicator light in dayligh=
t.

Make sure your LED is green, and not white, as the light intensity tends to=
 bleach out the green of the plastic case.

Cost me NZ $7=C2=A0=C2=A0 That=E2=80=99s =E2=80=98peanuts=E2=80=99 in any c=
urrency.

My next job is to fit an audible alarm so that I can hear when the indicato=
r is on.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Ditto for leaving my lights on.

 =C2=A0

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>=
=20
Sent: Friday, 30 September 2022 5:31 AM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Pretty sure that you can=E2=80=99t use LED.

Mine was dim too but I found that to be function of the lens in the dial wh=
ich, in my case, was too thick. Maybe =E2=80=93 as I was recently advised h=
ere =E2=80=93 take a sheet of thin acetate and punch the appropriate size h=
ole.

Simon

 =C2=A0

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of warthodson--- v=
ia Healeys
Sent: 29 September 2022 16:32
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Is there a brighter bulb available for the ignition warning lite that will =
fit a stock 100 socket & be relatively easy to see if it is on or off in da=
y light? I don't care if the bulb is LED or incandescent.=20

Gary Hodson
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Sounds like a plan to me. Still =E2=80=93 to revert to the original questio=
n =E2=80=93 not sure about using an LED in the ignition warning light. Mayb=
e with a generator, but not with an alternator. Can=E2=80=99t remember!

Simon

 =C2=A0

From: Mark Donaldson <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: 30 September 2022 10:37
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Gary, and Simon,

I bought some last year for my BN2 and tri-carb.=C2=A0 They are 12v LEDs in=
 GREEN.=C2=A0 I can now easily see the direction indicator light in dayligh=
t.

Make sure your LED is green, and not white, as the light intensity tends to=
 bleach out the green of the plastic case.

Cost me NZ $7=C2=A0=C2=A0 That=E2=80=99s =E2=80=98peanuts=E2=80=99 in any c=
urrency.

My next job is to fit an audible alarm so that I can hear when the indicato=
r is on.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Ditto for leaving my lights on.

 =C2=A0

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>=
=20
Sent: Friday, 30 September 2022 5:31 AM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Pretty sure that you can=E2=80=99t use LED.

Mine was dim too but I found that to be function of the lens in the dial wh=
ich, in my case, was too thick. Maybe =E2=80=93 as I was recently advised h=
ere =E2=80=93 take a sheet of thin acetate and punch the appropriate size h=
ole.

Simon

 =C2=A0

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of warthodson--- vi=
a Healeys
Sent: 29 September 2022 16:32
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Is there a brighter bulb available for the ignition warning lite that will =
fit a stock 100 socket & be relatively easy to see if it is on or off in da=
y light? I don't care if the bulb is LED or incandescent.=20

Gary Hodson
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Simon,

I don=E2=80=99t believe whether a charging system is generator or alternato=
r makes any difference.=C2=A0=20

The light is there only as a =E2=80=98tell tale=E2=80=99.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It do=
esn=E2=80=99t need to offer a resistance, and the current drain of that lit=
tle LED is tiny.

My suggestion is =E2=80=93 try it and see.

 =C2=A0

Cheers

Mark

 =C2=A0

From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>=
=20
Sent: Friday, 30 September 2022 11:18 PM
To: 'Mark Donaldson' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Sounds like a plan to me. Still =E2=80=93 to revert to the original questio=
n =E2=80=93 not sure about using an LED in the ignition warning light. Mayb=
e with a generator, but not with an alternator. Can=E2=80=99t remember!

Simon

 =C2=A0

From: Mark Donaldson <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: 30 September 2022 10:37
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Gary, and Simon,

I bought some last year for my BN2 and tri-carb.=C2=A0 They are 12v LEDs in=
 GREEN.=C2=A0 I can now easily see the direction indicator light in dayligh=
t.

Make sure your LED is green, and not white, as the light intensity tends to=
 bleach out the green of the plastic case.

Cost me NZ $7=C2=A0=C2=A0 That=E2=80=99s =E2=80=98peanuts=E2=80=99 in any c=
urrency.

My next job is to fit an audible alarm so that I can hear when the indicato=
r is on.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Ditto for leaving my lights on.

 =C2=A0

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>=
=20
Sent: Friday, 30 September 2022 5:31 AM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Pretty sure that you can=E2=80=99t use LED.

Mine was dim too but I found that to be function of the lens in the dial wh=
ich, in my case, was too thick. Maybe =E2=80=93 as I was recently advised h=
ere =E2=80=93 take a sheet of thin acetate and punch the appropriate size h=
ole.

Simon

 =C2=A0

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of warthodson--- vi=
a Healeys
Sent: 29 September 2022 16:32
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Is there a brighter bulb available for the ignition warning lite that will =
fit a stock 100 socket & be relatively easy to see if it is on or off in da=
y light? I don't care if the bulb is LED or incandescent.=20

Gary Hodson
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It is, I think, all to do with how LEDs work. I=E2=80=99m not an expert but=
 I refer you to someone who is:-

IGNITION WARNING LAMP - What It Does And Doesn't Do (mgaguru.com)

Of course, I=E2=80=99ve never tried it so can=E2=80=99t be sure either way!

I seem to recall that our usual bulbs come in different degrees of brightne=
ss depending on their originally intended application. I think that I used =
to get mine from a motorbike place=E2=80=A6.

Simon

 =C2=A0

From: Mark Donaldson <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: 30 September 2022 11:28
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Simon,

I don=E2=80=99t believe whether a charging system is generator or alternato=
r makes any difference.=C2=A0=20

The light is there only as a =E2=80=98tell tale=E2=80=99.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It do=
esn=E2=80=99t need to offer a resistance, and the current drain of that lit=
tle LED is tiny.

My suggestion is =E2=80=93 try it and see.

 =C2=A0

Cheers

Mark

 =C2=A0

From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>=
=20
Sent: Friday, 30 September 2022 11:18 PM
To: 'Mark Donaldson' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Sounds like a plan to me. Still =E2=80=93 to revert to the original questio=
n =E2=80=93 not sure about using an LED in the ignition warning light. Mayb=
e with a generator, but not with an alternator. Can=E2=80=99t remember!

Simon

 =C2=A0

From: Mark Donaldson <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: 30 September 2022 10:37
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Gary, and Simon,

I bought some last year for my BN2 and tri-carb.=C2=A0 They are 12v LEDs in=
 GREEN.=C2=A0 I can now easily see the direction indicator light in dayligh=
t.

Make sure your LED is green, and not white, as the light intensity tends to=
 bleach out the green of the plastic case.

Cost me NZ $7=C2=A0=C2=A0 That=E2=80=99s =E2=80=98peanuts=E2=80=99 in any c=
urrency.

My next job is to fit an audible alarm so that I can hear when the indicato=
r is on.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Ditto for leaving my lights on.

 =C2=A0

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

From: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>=
=20
Sent: Friday, 30 September 2022 5:31 AM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Pretty sure that you can=E2=80=99t use LED.

Mine was dim too but I found that to be function of the lens in the dial wh=
ich, in my case, was too thick. Maybe =E2=80=93 as I was recently advised h=
ere =E2=80=93 take a sheet of thin acetate and punch the appropriate size h=
ole.

Simon

 =C2=A0

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of warthodson--- vi=
a Healeys
Sent: 29 September 2022 16:32
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

Is there a brighter bulb available for the ignition warning lite that will =
fit a stock 100 socket & be relatively easy to see if it is on or off in da=
y light? I don't care if the bulb is LED or incandescent.=20

Gary Hodson
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My understanding is that an LED is fine for a dynamo, but for an alternator=
 the current generated by the warning light is what gets the field coils en=
ergised, and LEDs pull so little current that the field coils will not ener=
gise, and so no generation takes place.

 =C2=A0

Ian
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I hav=3De had=3DC2=3DA0 LED instrument\generator(red) bulbs since 2009. =3D=
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=3DC2=3DA0Works as intended like original incandescent l=3Damp. Lights up a=
t low idle etc.

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Sent from Mail for Windows

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From: Ian Hey via Healeys
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022=3D 8:36 AM
To: healeys@au=3Dtox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

My understanding is that an LED is fine for a dynamo, but for an =3Dalterna=
tor the current generated by the warning light is what gets the fiel=3Dd co=
ils energised, and LEDs pull so little current that the field coils wil=3Dl=
 not energise, and so no generation takes place.

=C2=A0

Ian

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Seems to be an alternator thing.

Simon

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From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Warren Dietz vi=
a Healeys
Sent: 30 September 2022 15:07
To: Ian Hey <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

I have had=C2=A0 LED instrument\generator(red) bulbs since 2009. =C2=A0

=C2=A0Works as intended like original incandescent lamp. Lights up at low i=
dle etc.

 =C2=A0

Sent from Mail for Windows

 =C2=A0

From: Ian Hey via Healeys
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 8:36 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] Ignition warning light

 =C2=A0

My understanding is that an LED is fine for a dynamo, but for an alternator=
 the current generated by the warning light is what gets the field coils en=
ergised, and LEDs pull so little current that the field coils will not ener=
gise, and so no generation takes place.

=C2=A0

Ian

 =C2=A0
 Does anyone know the type of original rivet that attaches the retainer fla=
p (flap that attaches the curtain to the inner door panel with a tennax)? T=
his is the rivet that goes through the steel bar sewn into the curtain mate=
rial. Can't find a clear picture, but it appears to be a similar to the riv=
ets that attach the battery cover door straps, although silver? And is ther=
e originally a fender washer used on the inside? Not sure if there was a di=
fference over the years, but I believe these are the third type of curtains=
 produced with the trim and interior access was made by an unattached mater=
ial area at the bottom rear.Thanks in advance.=C2=A0 Shawn
The Millers
=C2=A0
"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."
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Misfire issue<div><br></div><div>I suspect that the weight of the fuel is c=
ausing a ground to go away. When the tank is light it reappears. That=E2=80=
=99s my hunch.&nbsp;</div><div>Good luck,</div><div>Dave Walsh<br><br><br><=
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: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Jim Ryan)<br>&nbsp;  3. Re: Austin =
Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Alan Wasserman)<br>&nbsp;  4. Re: Austin Hea=
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100 Misfire Diagnosis. (Alan Seigrist)<br>&nbsp;  6. Re: Austin Healey 100 =
Misfire Diagnosis. (Michael Salter)<br>&nbsp;  7. Re: Austin Healey 100 Mis=
fire Diagnosis. (Michael Oritt)<br>&nbsp;  8. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire=
 Diagnosis. (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)<br>&nbsp;  9. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfir=
e Diagnosis. (Alan Seigrist)<br>&nbsp; 10. Re: Austin Healey 100 Misfire Di=
agnosis. (Roland Wilhelmy)<br>&nbsp; 11. Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosi=
s. (<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:josef-eck=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>)<br>&nbsp; 12. Re: ignition w=
arning light (Mark Donaldson)<br>&nbsp; 13. Re: ignition warning light (<a =
ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:simon.l=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>)<br>&nbsp=
; 14. Re: ignition warning light (Mark Donaldson)<br>&nbsp; 15. Re: ignitio=
n warning light (<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
us.com</a>)<br>&nbsp; 16. Ignition warning light (Ian Hey)<br>&nbsp; 17. Re=
: Ignition warning light (Warren Dietz)<br>&nbsp; 18. Re: Ignition warning =
light (<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
)<br>&nbsp; 19. BN2 side curtain rivet type (S and T Miller)<br><div id=3D"=
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&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">They are typically 1=E2=80=9D long.</spa=
n></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;f=
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p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">John</span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=
=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;, sans-serif;"> Healeys [mailto:heale=
[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harold Manifold<br><b>Sent:<=
/b> Thursday, September 29, 2022 9:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> Healey List &lt;heal=
[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Greasing the Driveshaft=
 U Joint</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><p c=
lass=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hello,</p><div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949Mso=
Normal"> &nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">My Healey=
 is nearing completion and after installing the driveshaft I tried to greas=
e the U-Joint only to find the nozzle&nbsp;on my grease gun is too large to=
 fit into the u-joint. Is there a grease gun with a narrow nozzle or a narr=
ow nozzle extension? I replaced the u-joints and used the grease fittings t=
hat came with the new joints. Should the grease&nbsp;nipples (zerk fitting)=
 be changed&nbsp;to the longer ones?</p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv462683694=
9MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thank=
s... Harold</p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p></=
div><div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p></div></div></div><=
/div></div></div><div id=3D"ymsg26187" class=3D"ymsg7529170944" src=3D"mid:=
//AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.2"><div id=3D"yiv4626836949"><div>What happ=
ens if you don't turn the car off when you fill it up?</div><br><div class=
=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_=
attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 11:07 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D=
"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote">

<div lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;">
<div class=3D"yiv4626836949m_-2192262898847993527WordSection1">
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled =
any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fue=
l then it settles again.&nbsp; Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment =
in tank.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Don</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Sent from <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkI=
d=3D550986">
Mail</a> for Windows</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"border:none;padding:0in;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b>F=
rom: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:michaels=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
Michael Salter</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Alan=
 Seigrist</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
Healey list</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given =
this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all sugges=
tions.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I&nbsp; should like to point out howeve=
r that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel =
tank that has me confused.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the=
 problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition=
 problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is =
not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used=
 has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll&nbsp; repo=
rt back.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan =
Seigrist via Healeys, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to=
 make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation!&nbsp; As Ed McMahon use=
d to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john ha=
rper &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:ah100tec=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ah100tec=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recov=
er when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely =
I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small&nbsp;crack i=
n the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Sei=
grist &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey.=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heale=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br>
<br>
Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f&nbsp;&nbsp;...&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything =
related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949Mso=
Normal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything=
 related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything r=
elated to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to=
 me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u=
></u><u></u></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></l=
i><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connection=
s)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"=
yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNor=
mal">
loose ignition&nbsp;wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></=
ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as seconda=
ry):<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or c=
ondensor simply because this would either be very regular&nbsp;all the time=
, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
<br>
Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u>=
</u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spi=
dell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:bspidell=
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n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "..=
. I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire=
 ..."<br>
<br>
It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wro=
te:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi Michael -<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections =
on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the c=
oil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnectin=
g the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if =
it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll get weird symptoms like this.&nbsp; If =
that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=
=99t recall
 if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t yo=
u=E2=80=99ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself=
.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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pe=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:arial, sans-serif;font-size:small;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_defau=
lt">

<p style=3D"text-align:center;margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size=
:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" align=3D"center" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNo=
rmal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:18pt;line-height:107%;"><span></span></sp=
an></b></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This problem has plagued me f=
or over 1000 miles.<span></span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Today I had to drive some 200=
 miles and this is how it went:<span></span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Starting from cold I experien=
ced a persistent and irregular misfire.
<span></span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Pulling the choke out made no=
 perceivable difference.<span></span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Power was not much affected a=
nd the car cruised along well
in top overdrive with just regular periods of misfiring.<span></span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Climbing slopes really made n=
o difference, even when full
throttle was applied for 10 - 15 seconds.<span></span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Misfire continued for some 90=
 miles with no change when the
engine was fully heated up.<span></span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I could really do nothing to =
influence the rate of the
misfire although it did seem to be slightly less evident at low throttle
settings.<span></span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">After 90 miles I stopped brie=
fly to get fuel and upon
starting off it was quite evident that the misfire had disappeared almost c=
ompletely
and remained that way for at least 80 miles after which it started to misfi=
re
just a little as I came to the end of the trip.<span></span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u><span>&nbsp;</span>POSSIBL=
E CAUSES</u><span></span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst"><=
span><span>1.<span style=3D"font:7pt New;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span>Plugs =E2=80=A6 not like a bad plug. The misfire seems
to be more than 1 cylinder and never came close to being the regular beat t=
hat 1
plug misfiring produces. All the plugs have a healthy brown/ grey appearanc=
e.<span></span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle">=
<span><span>2.<span style=3D"font:7pt New;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span>Coil =E2=80=A6<span>&nbsp; </span>In
my experience coils are very reliable but when they do fail they tend to fa=
il
as they warm up and the problem gets worse as the coil warms up<span></span=
></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle">=
<span><span>3.<span style=3D"font:7pt New;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span>Points =E2=80=A6 a possibility but the dwell is set at
exactly 60 degrees and does not waver at all when the engine is running in =
the
shop.<span></span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"><s=
pan><span>4.<span style=3D"font:7pt New;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span>Fuel pump =E2=80=A6 if the engine was starving for fue=
l
because of a fuel supply issue caused by a blockage or failing pump the pro=
blem
would get worse when the demand for fuel increased, as in climbing a hill o=
f
full throttle. This was absolutely not the case.</p><p style=3D"margin:0in =
0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;" clas=
s=3D"yiv4626836949gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"><br></p><p style=3D"margi=
n:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;=
" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast">Any ideas folks?<br=
></p><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;f=
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</div></blockquote></div></div></div><div id=3D"ymsg14907" class=3D"ymsg752=
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6949"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949=
gmail_default">I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gott=
en into the tank.&nbsp; It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow =
and cause the engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.&=
nbsp; When I either got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf =
would apparently fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine unt=
il the leaf was once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc.&nbsp;</div>=
<div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></di=
v><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">I empi=
rically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, searched a=
round in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I removed=
 it the miss went away.&nbsp; How the leaf got into the tank when the fuel =
filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.</div><div =
style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><di=
v style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">Best--Micha=
el Oritt</div><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_def=
ault"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM=
 Don Anglesey via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:heale=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled =
any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fue=
l then it settles again.&nbsp; Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment =
in tank.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Don</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p style=3D"border:none;padding:0in;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b>F=
rom: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:michaels=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
Michael Salter</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Alan=
 Seigrist</a><br>
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[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
Healey list</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given =
this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all sugges=
tions.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I&nbsp; should like to point out howeve=
r that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel =
tank that has me confused.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the=
 problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition=
 problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is =
not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used=
 has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll&nbsp; repo=
rt back.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan =
Seigrist via Healeys, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys=
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</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to=
 make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation!&nbsp; As Ed McMahon use=
d to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john ha=
rper &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:ah100tec=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ah100tec=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
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.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recov=
er when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely =
I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small&nbsp;crack i=
n the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Sei=
grist &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey.=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heale=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br>
<br>
Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f&nbsp;&nbsp;...&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything =
related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949Mso=
Normal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything=
 related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything r=
elated to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to=
 me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u=
></u><u></u></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></l=
i><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connection=
s)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"=
yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNor=
mal">
loose ignition&nbsp;wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></=
ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as seconda=
ry):<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or c=
ondensor simply because this would either be very regular&nbsp;all the time=
, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
<br>
Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></=
u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spi=
dell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:bspidell=
@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">bspide=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... =
I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire .=
.."<br>
<br>
It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wro=
te:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi Michael -<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections =
on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the c=
oil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnectin=
g the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if =
it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll get weird symptoms like this.&nbsp; If =
that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=
=99t recall
 if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t yo=
u=E2=80=99ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself=
.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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licone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn=E2=80=99t know that fuel ca=
used flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermittently.</div><div=
><br><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4=
626836949gmail_attr">On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a r=
el=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">michael.oritt=
@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949g=
mail_default">I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotte=
n into the tank.&nbsp; It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow a=
nd cause the engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.&n=
bsp; When I either got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf w=
ould apparently fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine unti=
l the leaf was once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc.&nbsp;</div><=
div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div=
><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">I empir=
ically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, searched ar=
ound in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I removed =
it the miss went away.&nbsp; How the leaf got into the tank when the fuel f=
iller is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.</div><div s=
tyle=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div=
 style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">Best--Michae=
l Oritt</div><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_defa=
ult"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"></div><div=
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gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys &lt;<=
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uote"><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>=
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled =
any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fue=
l then it settles again.&nbsp; Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment =
in tank.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Don</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
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<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Alan=
 Seigrist</a><br>
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[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
Healey list</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given =
this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all sugges=
tions.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I&nbsp; should like to point out howeve=
r that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel =
tank that has me confused.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the=
 problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition=
 problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is =
not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used=
 has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll&nbsp; repo=
rt back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan =
Seigrist via Healeys, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
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<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
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.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to=
 make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation!&nbsp; As Ed McMahon use=
d to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john ha=
rper &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:ah100tec=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ah100tec=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recov=
er when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely =
I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small&nbsp;crack i=
n the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Sei=
grist &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey.=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heale=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br>
<br>
Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f&nbsp;&nbsp;...&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything =
related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949Mso=
Normal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything=
 related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything r=
elated to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to=
 me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u=
></u><u></u></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></l=
i><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connection=
s)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"=
yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNor=
mal">
loose ignition&nbsp;wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></=
ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as seconda=
ry):<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or c=
ondensor simply because this would either be very regular&nbsp;all the time=
, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
<br>
Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></=
u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spi=
dell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:bspidell=
@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">bspide=
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<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... =
I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire .=
.."<br>
<br>
It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wro=
te:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi Michael -<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections =
on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the c=
oil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnectin=
g the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if =
it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll get weird symptoms like this.&nbsp; If =
that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=
=99t recall
 if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t yo=
u=E2=80=99ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself=
.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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ct that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change in the amount of =
misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause.&nbsp;<div>I'm starting =
to think that the refueling situation is something of a "red herring" altho=
ugh it certainly is an odd one.</div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv4626836949g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu., Sep=
. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener norefe=
rrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>Good point.&nbsp; I had a ver=
y similar experience when I had mistakenly used high heat silicone to seal =
the fuel tank sender, and I didn=E2=80=99t know that fuel caused flakes of =
it to fall off and plug the pickup intermittently.</div><div><br><div class=
=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_=
attr">On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"=
>I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the ta=
nk.&nbsp; It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the =
engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.&nbsp; When I e=
ither got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparent=
ly fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf wa=
s once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"=
color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style=
=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">I empirically came=
 up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, searched around in the=
 tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I removed it the miss=
 went away.&nbsp; How the leaf got into the tank when the fuel filler is in=
side the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.</div><div style=3D"col=
or:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"c=
olor:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</di=
v><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></=
div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"></div><div class=3D"y=
iv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_attr"=
>On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"no=
follow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><bloc=
kquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled =
any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fue=
l then it settles again.&nbsp; Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment =
in tank.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Don</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p style=3D"border:none;padding:0in;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b>F=
rom: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:michaels=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
Michael Salter</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Alan=
 Seigrist</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
Healey list</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given =
this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all sugges=
tions.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I&nbsp; should like to point out howeve=
r that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel =
tank that has me confused.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the=
 problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition=
 problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is =
not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used=
 has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll&nbsp; repo=
rt back.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan =
Seigrist via Healeys, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to=
 make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation!&nbsp; As Ed McMahon use=
d to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john ha=
rper &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:ah100tec=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ah100tec=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recov=
er when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely =
I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small&nbsp;crack i=
n the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Sei=
grist &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey.=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heale=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br>
<br>
Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f&nbsp;&nbsp;...&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything =
related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949Mso=
Normal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything=
 related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything r=
elated to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to=
 me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u=
></u><u></u></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></l=
i><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connection=
s)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"=
yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNor=
mal">
loose ignition&nbsp;wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></=
ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as seconda=
ry):<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or c=
ondensor simply because this would either be very regular&nbsp;all the time=
, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
<br>
Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></=
u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spi=
dell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:bspidell=
@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">bspide=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... =
I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire .=
.."<br>
<br>
It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wro=
te:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi Michael -<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections =
on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the c=
oil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnectin=
g the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if =
it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll get weird symptoms like this.&nbsp; If =
that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=
=99t recall
 if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t yo=
u=E2=80=99ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself=
.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</blockquote>
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iv style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">Michael--<=
/div><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br=
></div><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">Y=
ou have to remember that when talking about problems with a Healey&nbsp;the=
&nbsp;unlikely sometimes becomes probable.&nbsp; If you haven't already don=
e so I would suggest that you drain and flush the tank either in situ or ou=
t of the car.&nbsp;</div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at =
10:02 PM Michael Salter &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:michae=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>BUT ... the fa=
ct that full throttle and climbing a slope with no change in the amount of =
misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause.&nbsp;<div>I'm starting =
to think that the refueling situation is something of a "red herring" altho=
ugh it certainly is an odd one.</div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv4626836949g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu., Sep=
. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener norefe=
rrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>Good point=
.&nbsp; I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenly used high hea=
t silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn=E2=80=99t know that fue=
l caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup intermittently.</div>=
<div><br><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt &lt;=
<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">michael.o=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=
=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,5=
1,255);" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">I had a similar miss that was=
 caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tank.&nbsp; It would be pulled a=
gainst the pickup by fuel flow and cause the engine to lose power on all cy=
linders, as opposed to a miss.&nbsp; When I either got off the gas pedal or=
 shut the engine down the leaf would apparently fall away from the pickup a=
nd everything would be fine until the leaf was once again pulled against th=
e pickup, etc. etc.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);" class=
=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255=
);" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">I empirically came up with this th=
eory after I pulled the fuel sender, searched around in the tank with a fla=
shlight and found the leaf, and after I removed it the miss went away.&nbsp=
; How the leaf got into the tank when the fuel filler is inside the boot is=
 a larger issue I never figured out.</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255=
);" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(=
51,51,255);" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div>=
<div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><=
br></div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"></div><div class=
=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_=
attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys &lt;<a rel=
=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"=
><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div></div=
></blockquote></div><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><blockquote sty=
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled =
any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fue=
l then it settles again.&nbsp; Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment =
in tank.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Don</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in;">
<p style=3D"border:none;padding:0in;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b>F=
rom: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:michaels=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
Michael Salter</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Alan=
 Seigrist</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
Healey list</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given =
this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all sugges=
tions.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I&nbsp; should like to point out howeve=
r that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel =
tank that has me confused.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the=
 problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition=
 problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is =
not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used=
 has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll&nbsp; repo=
rt back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan =
Seigrist via Healeys, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys=
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<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to=
 make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation!&nbsp; As Ed McMahon use=
d to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john ha=
rper &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:ah100tec=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ah100tec=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recov=
er when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely =
I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small&nbsp;crack i=
n the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Sei=
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[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heale=
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br>
<br>
Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f&nbsp;&nbsp;...&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything =
related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949Mso=
Normal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything=
 related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything r=
elated to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to=
 me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u=
></u><u></u></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></l=
i><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connection=
s)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"=
yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNor=
mal">
loose ignition&nbsp;wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></=
ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as seconda=
ry):<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or c=
ondensor simply because this would either be very regular&nbsp;all the time=
, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
<br>
Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></=
u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spi=
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... =
I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire .=
.."<br>
<br>
It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wro=
te:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi Michael -<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections =
on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the c=
oil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnectin=
g the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if =
it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll get weird symptoms like this.&nbsp; If =
that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=
=99t recall
 if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t yo=
u=E2=80=99ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself=
.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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Check for a pin hole in the fuel pickup tube.</div>
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<div id=3D"yiv4626836949divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Michael Salter &lt;michael=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 30, 2022 2:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alan Seigrist &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healey list &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<div>
<div>BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a slope with no chang=
e in the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blockage as a cause.&nbsp=
;
<div>I'm starting to think that the refueling situation is something of a "=
red herring" although it certainly is an odd one.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949x_gmail_attr">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022=
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<div>Good point.&nbsp; I had a very similar experience when I had mistakenl=
y used high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank sender, and I didn=E2=80=99=
t know that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and plug the pickup interm=
ittently.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949x_gmail_attr">On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 at=
 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
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<div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949x_gmail_default">I had =
a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tank.&nbs=
p; It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the engine =
to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.&nbsp;
 When I either got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would=
 apparently fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until th=
e leaf was once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949x_gmail_default"><br>
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<div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949x_gmail_default">I empi=
rically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, searched a=
round in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I removed=
 it the miss went away.&nbsp; How the leaf got into the
 tank when the fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never fig=
ured out.</div>
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<div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949x_gmail_default">Best--=
Michael Oritt</div>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is fille=
d any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the f=
uel then it settles again.&nbsp; Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sedimen=
t in tank.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Don</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p style=3D"border:none;padding:0in;" class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><b=
>From: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:michae=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">Michael Salter</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Alan=
 Seigrist</a><br>
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[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously give=
n this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all sugg=
estions.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">I&nbsp; should like to point out howe=
ver that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fue=
l tank that has me confused.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce t=
he problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an igniti=
on problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this i=
s not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being us=
ed has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll&nbsp; re=
port back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Ala=
n Seigrist via Healeys, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying =
to make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation!&nbsp; As Ed McMahon u=
sed to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john =
harper &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:ah100t=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ah100t=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then rec=
over when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closel=
y I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small&nbsp;crack=
 in the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan S=
eigrist &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:heale=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">hea=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Michael -<br>
<br>
Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f&nbsp;&nbsp;...&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">whether the car is warmed up or not =
- this typically will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u=
></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">whether the car is under l=
oad or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u>=
</u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">whether the choke is pulled=
 or not - this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u=
></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">somewhat intermittent but syst=
ematically under all conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues<u><=
/u><u></u></li></ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):=
<u></u><u></u></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Battery Master (when these fail they=
 will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNor=
mal">primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the conne=
ctions)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">motor grou=
nd straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836=
949x_MsoNormal">loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv=
4626836949x_MsoNormal">loose ignition&nbsp;wires into the dizzy or spark pl=
ug<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as secon=
dary):<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li =
class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li></ul=
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or=
 condensor simply because this would either be very regular&nbsp;all the ti=
me, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
<br>
Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Alan<u>=
</u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob S=
pidell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:bspide=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">bspi=
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">re: "..=
. I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire=
 ..."<br>
<br>
It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist w=
rote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Hi Michael -<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connection=
s on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the=
 coil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnect=
ing the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - i=
f it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll get weird symptoms like this.&nbsp; I=
f that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem.&nbsp; I don=E2=
=80=99t
 recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=
=99t you=E2=80=99ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch=
 itself.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949x_MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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ZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.9"><div id=3D"yiv4626836949"><div dir=3D"ltr">If=
 the bits are floating around in the tank sometimes they are away from the =
pick up, other times they are stuck on the pickup.&nbsp; It acts like a lit=
tle flapper valve that&nbsp;can float loose from time to time,&nbsp;and fin=
ds its way back to the pickup as fuel is&nbsp;being&nbsp;drawn to the engin=
e.&nbsp; Good to use an endoscope and check the tank.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br><br>I'=
m still leaning toward bad battery&nbsp;master or bad wire connection somew=
here.&nbsp; Also if lights are dim, clean the battery contacts.</div><br><d=
iv class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv46268369=
49gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 10:02 AM Michael Salter &lt;<a rel=3D=
"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">michaelsalter@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv4626=
836949gmail_quote"><div>BUT ... the fact that full throttle and climbing a =
slope with no change in the amount of misfiring tends to negate fuel blocka=
ge as a cause.&nbsp;<div>I'm starting to think that the refueling situation=
 is something of a "red herring" although it certainly is an odd one.</div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23 p.m. Alan Seigrist, =
&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">healey.nut@=
gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv=
4626836949gmail_quote"><div>Good point.&nbsp; I had a very similar experien=
ce when I had mistakenly used high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank send=
er, and I didn=E2=80=99t know that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off and=
 plug the pickup intermittently.</div><div><br><div class=3D"yiv4626836949g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Fri, 30 S=
ep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferre=
r" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></di=
v><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_d=
efault">I had a similar miss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into=
 the tank.&nbsp; It would be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cau=
se the engine to lose power on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.&nbsp; W=
hen I either got off the gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would a=
pparently fall away from the pickup and everything would be fine until the =
leaf was once again pulled against the pickup, etc. etc.&nbsp;</div><div st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></di=
v><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"=
>I empirically came up with this theory after I pulled the fuel sender, sea=
rched around in the tank with a flashlight and found the leaf, and after I =
removed it the miss went away.&nbsp; How the leaf got into the tank when th=
e fuel filler is inside the boot is a larger issue I never figured out.</di=
v><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"=
><br></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail=
_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);" cla=
ss=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv4626=
836949gmail_quote"></div><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:01 AM=
 Don Anglesey via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:heale=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div><di=
v class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"=
yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div></div></blockquote></div><div class=3D"yiv46=
26836949gmail_quote"><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled =
any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fue=
l then it settles again.&nbsp; Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment =
in tank.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Don</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Sent from <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener n=
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<p style=3D"border:none;padding:0in;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b>F=
rom: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:michaels=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
Michael Salter</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Alan=
 Seigrist</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
Healey list</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given =
this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all sugges=
tions.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I&nbsp; should like to point out howeve=
r that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel =
tank that has me confused.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the=
 problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition=
 problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is =
not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used=
 has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll&nbsp; repo=
rt back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan =
Seigrist via Healeys, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to=
 make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation!&nbsp; As Ed McMahon use=
d to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john ha=
rper &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:ah100tec=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ah100tec=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recov=
er when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely =
I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small&nbsp;crack i=
n the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Sei=
grist &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey.=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heale=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br>
<br>
Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f&nbsp;&nbsp;...&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything =
related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949Mso=
Normal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything=
 related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything r=
elated to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to=
 me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u=
></u><u></u></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></l=
i><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connection=
s)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"=
yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNor=
mal">
loose ignition&nbsp;wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></=
ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as seconda=
ry):<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or c=
ondensor simply because this would either be very regular&nbsp;all the time=
, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
<br>
Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></=
u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spi=
dell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:bspidell=
@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">bspide=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... =
I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire .=
.."<br>
<br>
It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wro=
te:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi Michael -<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections =
on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the c=
oil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnectin=
g the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if =
it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll get weird symptoms like this.&nbsp; If =
that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=
=99t recall
 if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t yo=
u=E2=80=99ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself=
.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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ZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.10"><div id=3D"yiv4626836949"><div>So what is un=
ique to a fuel stop besides the fuel?&nbsp; Adding weight to the boot area,=
 opening the boot lid, removing the filler cap.&nbsp; What else?<div><br></=
div><div>An unvented filler cap could restrict fuel flow.&nbsp; Extra weigh=
t&nbsp; and even opening the boot lid could shift some recalcitrant ground =
or other connection or loose shorted wire. Maybe even at the battery switch=
.&nbsp;</div><div>-Roland</div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 20=
22, 8:12 PM Michael Salter &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:mic=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>BUT ... the fact that full thr=
ottle and climbing a slope with no change in the amount of misfiring tends =
to negate fuel blockage as a cause.&nbsp;<div>I'm starting to think that th=
e refueling situation is something of a "red herring" although it certainly=
 is an odd one.</div></div><br><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:23=
 p.m. Alan Seigrist, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@g=
mail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"y=
iv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>Good point.&nbsp; I had a very similar experi=
ence when I had mistakenly used high heat silicone to seal the fuel tank se=
nder, and I didn=E2=80=99t know that fuel caused flakes of it to fall off a=
nd plug the pickup intermittently.</div><div><br><div class=3D"yiv462683694=
9gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Fri, 30=
 Sep 2022 at 4:38 AM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener norefer=
rer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;paddi=
ng-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div styl=
e=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">I had a similar m=
iss that was caused by a leaf that had gotten into the tank.&nbsp; It would=
 be pulled against the pickup by fuel flow and cause the engine to lose pow=
er on all cylinders, as opposed to a miss.&nbsp; When I either got off the =
gas pedal or shut the engine down the leaf would apparently fall away from =
the pickup and everything would be fine until the leaf was once again pulle=
d against the pickup, etc. etc.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" cl=
ass=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" =
class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">I empirically came up with this theory=
 after I pulled the fuel sender, searched around in the tank with a flashli=
ght and found the leaf, and after I removed it the miss went away.&nbsp; Ho=
w the leaf got into the tank when the fuel filler is inside the boot is a l=
arger issue I never figured out.</div><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" class=
=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"color:#3333ff;" cla=
ss=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div style=3D"co=
lor:#3333ff;" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_default"><br></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"></div><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2=
022 at 11:01 AM Don Anglesey via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener no=
referrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div></div><div class=3D"yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><blockquote style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
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yiv4626836949gmail_quote"><div>

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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I suspect that when the tank is filled =
any sediment or debris around the tank intake is redistributed thru the fue=
l then it settles again.&nbsp; Classic sign of bad fuel filter or sediment =
in tank.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Don</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p style=3D"border:none;padding:0in;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b>F=
rom: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:michaels=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
Michael Salter</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:10 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Alan=
 Seigrist</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given =
this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all sugges=
tions.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I&nbsp; should like to point out howeve=
r that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel =
tank that has me confused.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the=
 problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition=
 problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is =
not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used=
 has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll&nbsp; repo=
rt back.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan =
Seigrist via Healeys, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys=
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<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to=
 make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation!&nbsp; As Ed McMahon use=
d to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 7:53 PM john ha=
rper &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:ah100tec=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ah100tec=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recov=
er when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely =
I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small&nbsp;crack i=
n the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Sei=
grist &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey.=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heale=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br>
<br>
Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themsel=
f&nbsp;&nbsp;...&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude anything =
related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949Mso=
Normal">
whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything=
 related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude anything r=
elated to fuel<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions - suggests to=
 me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u=
></u><u></u></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></l=
i><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the connection=
s)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
motor ground straps (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"=
yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNor=
mal">
loose ignition&nbsp;wires into the dizzy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li></=
ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as seconda=
ry):<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">
replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or c=
ondensor simply because this would either be very regular&nbsp;all the time=
, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br>
<br>
Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></=
u><u></u></p>
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... =
I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire .=
.."<br>
<br>
It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it gro=
unds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wro=
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi Michael -<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections =
on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the c=
oil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnectin=
g the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if =
it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll get weird symptoms like this.&nbsp; If =
that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=
=99t recall
 if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t yo=
u=E2=80=99ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master switch itself=
.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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v><p style=3D"margin:0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, san=
s-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none;">Hello Mike,<br>=
</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none;">I still suspect t=
he master switch, or the white/black wire to it.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none;">To check this, ju=
st take the white/black wire off the distributer and coil. And instead make=
 a temporary connection (wire) from coil to distributer. And now make a tes=
t drive.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none;">Cheers,</span></p=
<p style=3D"margin:0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none;">Josef Eckert</spa=
n></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-=
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p style=3D"border:none;padding:0in;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><str=
ong>From: </strong><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@g=
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29, 2022 8:10 AM<br><strong>To: </strong><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener norefe=
rrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">Alan Seigrist</a><br><strong>Cc: </strong><a rel=
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 target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Healey list</a><b=
r><strong>Subject: </strong>Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnos=
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks to all who have obviously given =
this misfire issue considerable thought. I will be sure to check all sugges=
tions.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I&nbsp; should like to point out howeve=
r that it is the immediate vanishing of the misfire after filling the fuel =
tank that has me confused.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">This has happened three times simce the=
 problem appeared.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I just don't understand how an ignition=
 problem could change as a result of filling the tank.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Furthermore I'm convinced that this is =
not a fuel starvation problem because the amount of engine power being used=
 has no effect.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Totally baffled.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Thanks again to all ... I'll&nbsp; repo=
rt back.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu., Sep. 29, 2022, 9:14 a.m. Alan =
Seigrist via Healeys, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi John -<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Yes, that was the point I was trying to=
 make, sorry if it fell through bad interpretation!&nbsp; As Ed McMahon use=
d to say, "You Are Correct Sir!"<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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rper &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:ah100tec=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ah100tec=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid #cccccc;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;marg=
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<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Coils can fail with heat and then recov=
er when cooled. I had one that had these symptoms and when looking closely =
I saw that the insulating oil had run out through a very small&nbsp;crack i=
n the bottom of the case.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 10:34, Alan Sei=
grist &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey.=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heale=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Michael -<br><br>Just as a follow up to=
 my email since the symptoms seem to manifest themself&nbsp;&nbsp;...&nbsp;=
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">whether the car is warmed up or not - =
this typically will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil<u></u><u><=
/u></li>
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">whether the car is under load or not -=
 this typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">whether the choke is pulled or not - t=
his typically will exclude anything related to fuel<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">somewhat intermittent but systematical=
ly under all conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues<u></u><u></=
u></li>
</ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Given this I'd check (as a priority):<u=
></u><u></u></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Battery Master (when these fail they w=
ill ground the coil)<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">primary ignition wire (white) from the=
 switch to coil (cycle the connections)<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">motor ground straps (cycle the connect=
ions)<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">loose wires in the dizzy<u></u><u></u>=
</li>
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">loose ignition&nbsp;wires into the diz=
zy or spark plug<u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Other things to possibly do (as seconda=
ry):<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">replace rotor<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">replace dizzy cap<u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">I don't think it would be contacts or c=
ondensor simply because this would either be very regular&nbsp;all the time=
, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br><br>Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></=
u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spi=
dell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:bspidell=
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in-right:0in;">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;" class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">re: "... =
I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire .=
.."<br><br>It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' posi=
tion it grounds the coil primary so no spark.<br><br><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wro=
te:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Hi Michael -<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Have you tried cycling the connections =
on the white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from the c=
oil to the distributor.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">You might also want to try disconnectin=
g the black and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if =
it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll get weird symptoms like this.&nbsp; If =
that wire is disconnected the car should run no problem.&nbsp; I don=E2=80=
=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn=
=E2=80=99t you=E2=80=99ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master =
switch itself.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Alan<u></u><u></u></p>
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n></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Cost me NZ $7&nbs=
p;&nbsp; That=E2=80=99s =E2=80=98peanuts=E2=80=99 in any currency.</span></=
p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">My next job is to fit=
 an audible alarm so that I can hear when the indicator is on.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Ditto for leaving my lights on.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-ser=
if;color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;co=
lor:#1F497D;">Mark</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F4=
97D;">Ardmore, NZ</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"color:#1F497D;"><img width=3D"434" height=3D"428" style=3D"wi=
dth:4.5166in;min-height:4.4583in;" id=3D"yiv4626836949Picture_x0020_1" src=
=3D"cid:rhTClnjG8PVuX0g03VHT" yahoo_partid=3D"3.12.2"></span><span style=3D=
"color:#1F497D;"></span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border=
-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"yiv4626836=
949MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US">=
 [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
; <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 September 2022 5:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> warthods=
[email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p cla=
ss=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal=
"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"">Pretty sure that you can=E2=80=99t use LE=
D.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=
=3D"">Mine was dim too but I found that to be function of the lens in the d=
ial which, in my case, was too thick. Maybe =E2=80=93 as I was recently adv=
ised here =E2=80=93 take a sheet of thin acetate and punch the appropriate =
size hole.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-G=
B" style=3D"">Simon</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lan=
g=3D"EN-GB" style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal=
"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys &lt=
;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>warthodson=
--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 29 September 2022 16:32<br><b>To:</b> <a re=
l=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p><p=
 class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> &nbsp;</span></p><d=
iv><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-s=
ize:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:black;">Is there a b=
righter bulb available for the ignition warning lite that will fit a stock =
100 socket &amp; be relatively easy to see if it is on or off in day light?=
 I don't care if the bulb is LED or incandescent. </span></p><div><p class=
=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:black;">Gary Hodson</span></p><=
/div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=3D"ymsg23213" class=3D"ymsg75291=
70944" src=3D"mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.13"><div id=3D"yiv4626836=
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--></style><div><div class=3D"yiv4626836949WordSection1"><p class=3D"yiv462=
6836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Sounds like a plan to me. Still =E2=80=
=93 to revert to the original question =E2=80=93 not sure about using an LE=
D in the ignition warning light. Maybe with a generator, but not with an al=
ternator. Can=E2=80=99t remember!</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"">Simon</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top=
:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"yiv4626836949M=
soNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Mar=
k Donaldson &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> 30 Septembe=
r 2022 10:37<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; warthodson@ao=
l.com<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:=
</b> RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p class=3D=
"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,=
 sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Gary, and Simon,</span></p><p class=3D"yiv46268=
36949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">I bought some last year for =
my BN2 and tri-carb.&nbsp; They are 12v LEDs in GREEN.&nbsp; I can now easi=
ly see the direction indicator light in daylight.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv=
4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Make sure your LED is g=
reen, and not white, as the light intensity tends to bleach out the green o=
f the plastic case.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lan=
g=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-=
serif;color:#1F497D;">Cost me NZ $7&nbsp;&nbsp; That=E2=80=99s =E2=80=98pea=
nuts=E2=80=99 in any currency.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal=
"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">My next job is to fit an audible alarm so =
that I can hear when the indicator is on.&nbsp;&nbsp; Ditto for leaving my =
lights on.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-N=
Z" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;col=
or:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span la=
ng=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans=
-serif;color:#1F497D;">Mark</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot=
;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Ardmore, NZ</span></p><p class=3D"yiv46268369=
49MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></=
p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"color:#=
1F497D;"><img width=3D"434" height=3D"428" style=3D"width:4.5208in;min-heig=
ht:4.4583in;" id=3D"yiv4626836949Picture_x0020_1" src=3D"cid:LuPYuIUTQWwIkG=
7ZEHsK" yahoo_partid=3D"3.13.2"></span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNorm=
al"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div><d=
iv style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0c=
m 0cm;"><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</=
span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a> &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.la=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@a=
lexarevel.plus.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:<=
/b> Friday, 30 September 2022 5:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Heal=
eys' &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">he=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] ignition warn=
ing light</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-NZ"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"">Pretty sure that you can=E2=80=99t use LED.</span></p><p class=3D=
"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Mine was dim too but I found that=
 to be function of the lens in the dial which, in my case, was too thick. M=
aybe =E2=80=93 as I was recently advised here =E2=80=93 take a sheet of thi=
n acetate and punch the appropriate size hole.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv462=
6836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Simon</span></p><p class=3D"yiv462683694=
9MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949Mso=
Normal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Heale=
ys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys-bo=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@auto=
x.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>warth=
odson--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 29 September 2022 16:32<br><b>To:</b> =
<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] ignition warning light</span><=
/p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"yiv46268=
36949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic San=
s MS&quot;;color:black;">Is there a brighter bulb available for the ignitio=
n warning lite that will fit a stock 100 socket &amp; be relatively easy to=
 see if it is on or off in day light? I don't care if the bulb is LED or in=
candescent. </span></p><div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:black;">Ga=
ry Hodson</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=3D"ymsg3837=
6" class=3D"ymsg7529170944" src=3D"mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.14">=
<div id=3D"yiv4626836949"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class=3D"yiv4626836949WordSection1"><p class=3D"yiv462=
6836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;, sans-serif;color:#003300;">Simon,</span></p><p class=3D"yiv462683694=
9MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,=
 sans-serif;color:#003300;">I don=E2=80=99t believe whether a charging syst=
em is generator or alternator makes any difference.&nbsp; </span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#003300;">The light is there only as a =
=E2=80=98tell tale=E2=80=99.&nbsp; &nbsp;It doesn=E2=80=99t need to offer a=
 resistance, and the current drain of that little LED is tiny.</span></p><p=
 class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#003300;">My suggestion is =E2=80=
=93 try it and see.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#00=
3300;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#003300;=
">Cheers</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#003300;">Mark=
</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#993366=
;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E=
1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b>=
<span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> simon.lachlan@al=
exarevel.plus.com &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b=
> Friday, 30 September 2022 11:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Mark Donaldson' &lt;ard=
[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] ignition warni=
ng light</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> &nbsp;<=
/p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"">Soun=
ds like a plan to me. Still =E2=80=93 to revert to the original question =
=E2=80=93 not sure about using an LED in the ignition warning light. Maybe =
with a generator, but not with an alternator. Can=E2=80=99t remember!</span=
></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"">Si=
mon</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" styl=
e=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E=
1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"=
><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Mark Donalds=
on &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:ardmorebus=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
nz">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> 30 September 2022 1=
0:37<br><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:simon=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a rel=
=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br=
><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Hea=
leys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"yiv462683694=
9MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv462683694=
9MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,=
 sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Gary, and Simon,</span></p><p class=3D"yiv46268=
36949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">I bought some last year for my BN2 and tri-=
carb.&nbsp; They are 12v LEDs in GREEN.&nbsp; I can now easily see the dire=
ction indicator light in daylight.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-=
serif;color:#1F497D;">Make sure your LED is green, and not white, as the li=
ght intensity tends to bleach out the green of the plastic case.</span></p>=
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Cost me NZ $7&nbsp;&nbs=
p; That=E2=80=99s =E2=80=98peanuts=E2=80=99 in any currency.</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">My next job is to fit an au=
dible alarm so that I can hear when the indicator is on.&nbsp;&nbsp; Ditto =
for leaving my lights on.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;col=
or:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1=
F497D;">Mark</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">=
Ardmore, NZ</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"co=
lor:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:#1F497D;"><img border=3D"0" width=3D"434" height=3D"428" styl=
e=3D"width:4.525in;min-height:4.4583in;" id=3D"yiv4626836949Picture_x0020_1=
" src=3D"cid:fSxgvCWTx8vluWECy1ye" yahoo_partid=3D"3.14.2"></span><span sty=
le=3D"color:#1F497D;"></span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;b=
order-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"yiv46=
26836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN=
-US"> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.lachl=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alex=
arevel.plus.com">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a rel=3D"nofoll=
ow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">simon=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 September =
2022 5:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:warthodson@=
aol.com">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;<a rel=3D"nofol=
low noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></=
div></div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv462=
6836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"">Pretty sure that you can=
=E2=80=99t use LED.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lan=
g=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"">Mine was dim too but I found that to be function of =
the lens in the dial which, in my case, was too thick. Maybe =E2=80=93 as I=
 was recently advised here =E2=80=93 take a sheet of thin acetate and punch=
 the appropriate size hole.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><=
span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"">Simon</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949Mso=
Normal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv46=
26836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN=
-US"> Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys-b=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf O=
f </b>warthodson--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 29 September 2022 16:32<br>=
<b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] ignition warning li=
ght</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> &nb=
sp;</span></p><div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:blac=
k;">Is there a brighter bulb available for the ignition warning lite that w=
ill fit a stock 100 socket &amp; be relatively easy to see if it is on or o=
ff in day light? I don't care if the bulb is LED or incandescent. </span></=
p><div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:black;">Gary Hod=
son</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=3D"ymsg06433" cla=
ss=3D"ymsg7529170944" src=3D"mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.15"><div i=
d=3D"yiv4626836949"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class=3D"yiv4626836949WordSection1"><p class=3D"yiv462=
6836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">It is, I think, all to do with how LEDs =
work. I=E2=80=99m not an expert but I refer you to someone who is:-</span><=
/p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/et120a.ht=
m"><span style=3D"color:blue;">IGNITION WARNING LAMP - What It Does And Doe=
sn't Do (mgaguru.com)</span></a></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"">Of course, I=E2=80=99ve never tried it so can=E2=80=99t be su=
re either way!</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"">I seem to recall that our usual bulbs come in different degrees of brigh=
tness depending on their originally intended application. I think that I us=
ed to get mine from a motorbike place=E2=80=A6.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv46=
26836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Simon</span></p><p class=3D"yiv46268369=
49MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"border:n=
one;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"=
yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Mark Donaldson &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:<=
/b> 30 September 2022 11:28<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]=
; [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;=
<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></=
div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv462683694=
9MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#003300;">Simon,</span></p><p class=3D"yiv=
4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#003300;">I don=E2=80=99t believe=
 whether a charging system is generator or alternator makes any difference.=
&nbsp; </span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:=
#003300;">The light is there only as a =E2=80=98tell tale=E2=80=99.&nbsp; &=
nbsp;It doesn=E2=80=99t need to offer a resistance, and the current drain o=
f that little LED is tiny.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
, sans-serif;color:#003300;">My suggestion is =E2=80=93 try it and see.</sp=
an></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#003300;"> =
&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#=
003300;">Cheers</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D=
"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-seri=
f;color:#003300;">Mark</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"color:#993366;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=
=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;">=
<p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b=
><span lang=3D"EN-US"> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:s=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> &lt=
;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@al=
exarevel.plus.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexareve=
l.plus.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Frid=
ay, 30 September 2022 11:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Mark Donaldson' &lt;<a rel=3D=
"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">ardmorebusin=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.=
com">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></=
div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ"> &nbsp;</span>=
</p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Sounds like a plan=
 to me. Still =E2=80=93 to revert to the original question =E2=80=93 not su=
re about using an LED in the ignition warning light. Maybe with a generator=
, but not with an alternator. Can=E2=80=99t remember!</span></p><p class=3D=
"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Simon</span></p><p class=3D"yiv46=
26836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"bo=
rder:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p cla=
ss=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US"> Mark Donaldson &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"=
 ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br><b>=
Sent:</b> 30 September 2022 10:37<br><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener=
 noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">simon.lachlan@al=
exarevel.plus.com</a>; <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow n=
oopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<=
br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></d=
iv><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949=
MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Gary, and Simon,</span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">I bought some =
last year for my BN2 and tri-carb.&nbsp; They are 12v LEDs in GREEN.&nbsp; =
I can now easily see the direction indicator light in daylight.</span></p><=
p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Make sure=
 your LED is green, and not white, as the light intensity tends to bleach o=
ut the green of the plastic case.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNor=
mal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Cost me NZ $7&nbsp;&nbsp; That=E2=80=99=
s =E2=80=98peanuts=E2=80=99 in any currency.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv46268=
36949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">My next job is to fit an aud=
ible alarm so that I can hear when the indicator is on.&nbsp;&nbsp; Ditto f=
or leaving my lights on.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;, =
sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNo=
rmal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Taho=
ma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Mark</span></p><p class=3D"yiv46268369=
49MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Tahoma&quot;, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Ardmore, NZ</span></p><p class=
=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"color:#1F497D;"> =
&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" s=
tyle=3D"color:#1F497D;"><img border=3D"0" width=3D"434" height=3D"428" styl=
e=3D"width:4.5208in;min-height:4.4583in;" id=3D"yiv4626836949Picture_x0020_=
1" src=3D"cid:JVoL5GCDCC6tlNInGyMH" yahoo_partid=3D"3.15.2"></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ" style=3D"color:#1F497D=
;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E=
1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b>=
<span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> <a rel=3D"nofoll=
ow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">simon=
[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer=
" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
us.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 September 2022 5:31 AM<br><b>To:=
</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:warthodson@a=
ol.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">warthodson@aol=
.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer=
" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b>=
 Re: [Healeys] ignition warning light</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"yiv=
4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-NZ"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv=
4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Pretty sure that you can=E2=80=99t us=
e LED.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Mine =
was dim too but I found that to be function of the lens in the dial which, =
in my case, was too thick. Maybe =E2=80=93 as I was recently advised here =
=E2=80=93 take a sheet of thin acetate and punch the appropriate size hole.=
</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Simon</span=
></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p=
><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></=
b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"=
 ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>warthodson--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 29 Sept=
ember 2022 16:32<br><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:heal=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys]=
 ignition warning light</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> &nbs=
p;</p><div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:black;">Is there a brighter=
 bulb available for the ignition warning lite that will fit a stock 100 soc=
ket &amp; be relatively easy to see if it is on or off in day light? I don'=
t care if the bulb is LED or incandescent. </span></p><div><p class=3D"yiv4=
626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic=
 Sans MS&quot;;color:black;">Gary Hodson</span></p></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div><div id=3D"ymsg58133" class=3D"ymsg7529170944" src=3D"mid://AMY=
ZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvfoY/3.16"><div id=3D"yiv4626836949"><style><!--
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6836949MsoNormal">My understanding is that an LED is fine for a dynamo, but=
 for an alternator the current generated by the warning light is what gets =
the field coils energised, and LEDs pull so little current that the field c=
oils will not energise, and so no generation takes place.</p><p class=3D"yi=
v4626836949MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Ian</p=
></div></div></div></div><div id=3D"ymsg29145" class=3D"ymsg7529170944" src=
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6268369493DMsoNormal">I hav=3D
e had=3DC2=3DA0 LED instrument\<b>generator(red</b>) bulbs since 2009. =3DC=
2=3DA0&lt;/=3D
p&gt;</p><p class=3D"yiv46268369493DMsoNormal">=3DC2=3DA0Works as intended =
like original incandescent l=3D
amp. Lights up at low idle etc.</p><p class=3D"yiv46268369493DMsoNormal"> &=
nbsp;&lt;/ =3D
p&gt;</p><p class=3D"yiv46268369493DMsoNormal">Sent from <a rel=3D"nofollow=
 noopener noreferrer">Mail</a> for Windows</p><p class=3D"yiv46268369493DMs=
oNormal"> &nbsp;=3D
</p><div style=3D"border:none;"><p style=3D"padding:0in;" class=3D"yiv46268=
369493DMsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">Ian =
Hey via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, September 30, 2022=3D
 8:36 AM<br><b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">healeys@au=
=3D
tox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] Ignition warning light</p>
<p class=3D"yiv46268369493DMsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv46268369493=
DMsoNormal"><span>My understanding is that an LED is fine for a dynamo, but=
 for an =3D
alternator the current generated by the warning light is what gets the fiel=
=3D
d coils energised, and LEDs pull so little current that the field coils wil=
=3D
l not energise, and so no generation takes place.</span></p><p><span>&nbsp;=
</span></p><p><span>Ian</span></p><p class=3D"yiv46268369493DMsoNormal">=3D
 &nbsp;</p></div></div> =3D

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--></style><div><div class=3D"yiv4626836949WordSection1"><p class=3D"yiv462=
6836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Seems to be an alternator thing.</span><=
/p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">Simon</span></p><p =
class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span style=3D""> &nbsp;</span></p><div><d=
iv style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0c=
m 0cm;"><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</=
span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&g=
t; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Warren Dietz via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 30 Septembe=
r 2022 15:07<br><b>To:</b> Ian Hey &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; healeys@=
autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Ignition warning light</spa=
n></p></div></div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=
=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I have had&nbsp; LED instr=
ument\<b>generator(red</b>) bulbs since 2009. &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"=
yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;Works as intended like o=
riginal incandescent lamp. Lights up at low idle etc.</span></p><p class=3D=
"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D=
"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sent from <a rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwl=
ink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836=
949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> &nbsp;</span></p><div style=3D"border:n=
one;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"=
yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From: </span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">=
Ian Hey via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, September 30, 2022 8:36 AM<=
br><b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:hea=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] Ignition warning=
 light</span></p></div><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN=
-US"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">My understanding=
 is that an LED is fine for a dynamo, but for an alternator the current gen=
erated by the warning light is what gets the field coils energised, and LED=
s pull so little current that the field coils will not energise, and so no =
generation takes place.</p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p=
 class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal">Ian</p><p class=3D"yiv4626836949MsoNormal=
"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> &nbsp;</span></p></div></div></div></div><div id=3D=
"ymsg13155" class=3D"ymsg7529170944" src=3D"mid://AMYZP5FwnNWIYzdA7gvi-NXvf=
oY/3.19"><div id=3D"yiv4626836949">

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<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;backgroun=
d-color:transparent;">
Does anyone know the type of original rivet that attaches the retainer flap=
 (flap that attaches the curtain to the inner door panel with a tennax)? Th=
is is the rivet that goes through the steel bar sewn into the curtain mater=
ial. Can't find a clear picture,
 but it appears to be a similar to the rivets that attach the battery cover=
 door straps, although silver? And is there originally a fender washer used=
 on the inside? Not sure if there was a difference over the years, but I be=
lieve these are the third type of
 curtains produced with the trim and interior access was made by an unattac=
hed material area at the bottom rear.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;backgroun=
d-color:transparent;">
Thanks in advance.&nbsp; Shawn</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The Millers<br>
&nbsp;<br>
"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."<br>
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