Subject: [Healeys] Water pump leak

From: llennep--- via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 22:48:53 +0000 (UTC)

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Hey Listers!Is it reasonable or unusual for a leak to develop through/out o=
f the water pump gasket? =C2=A0This pump has been on the engine for maybe 3=
0 years or more - not sure. =C2=A0There is a visible slow leak but does not=
 seem to be coming from the shaft as normal place.
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<div style="color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Hey Listers!<span></span>
<div>Is it reasonable or unusual for a leak to develop through/out of the water pump gasket? &nbsp;This pump has been on the engine for maybe 30 years or more - not sure. &nbsp;There is a visible slow leak but does not seem to be coming from the shaft as normal place.</div>
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From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 18:01:26 -0500

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Look very carefully Keith and you will probably find that the leakage is
from the hole in the casting just forward of the gasket.
That hole is there to allow any coolant that comes past the seal to leak
out before it can get into the bearings.
Those pumps are pretty easy to rebuild. The instructions are in the
Workshop Manual and I  have a kit for them.

M

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<div dir=3D"auto">Look very carefully Keith and you will probably find that=
 the leakage is from the hole in the casting just forward of the gasket.=C2=
=A0<div dir=3D"auto">That hole is there to allow any coolant that comes pas=
t the seal to leak out before it can get into the bearings.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Those pumps are pretty easy to rebuild. The instructions are in t=
he Workshop Manual and I=C2=A0 have a kit for them.</div><div dir=3D"auto">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto">=
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From: llennep--- via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 23:10:42 +0000 (UTC)

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And can anyone explain why some pumps have bearing lubricating access with =
screw and some pumps do not? =C2=A0I have one of each here.

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From: llennep--- via Healeys <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 5:48 pm
Subject: [Healeys] Water pump leak

Hey Listers!Is it reasonable or unusual for a leak to develop through/out o=
f the water pump gasket? =C2=A0This pump has been on the engine for maybe 3=
0 years or more - not sure. =C2=A0There is a visible slow leak but does not=
 seem to be coming from the shaft as normal place._________________________=
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<div style="color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">And can anyone explain why some pumps have bearing lubricating access with screw and some pumps do not? &nbsp;I have one of each here.<br>
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If you have a press to remove and reinstall the pulley they are easy to =
rebuild. The impeller will break if you try to pull or press on it. The =
impeller is brittle because it is made from unobtainium. I can=E2=80=99t =
recall if Mike includes the instructions to make a do-it-yourself press =
but it is simple. You need a flat steel plate about slightly larger than =
the pulley, drill four oversize holes to match the ones in the pulley. =
Get a space, such as a socket that is slightly smaller than the end of =
the water pump shaft. Put it over the end of the shaft and bolt the =
plate over it onto the pulley. Tighten the bolts in an alternating =
sequence to press the pulley shaft free from the pulley. When you press =
the pulley back on don=E2=80=99t press on the impeller, only press on =
the shaft and pulley. Make a note of the clearance from the impeller to =
the pump body and the depth of the shaft into the pulley so you can =
obtain the proper clearances when fitting it all back together.

=20

J

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Michael Salter
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2021 3:01 PM
To: Keith Pennell <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water pump leak

=20

Look very carefully Keith and you will probably find that the leakage is =
from the hole in the casting just forward of the gasket.=20

That hole is there to allow any coolant that comes past the seal to leak =
out before it can get into the bearings.

Those pumps are pretty easy to rebuild. The instructions are in the =
Workshop Manual and I  have a kit for them.

=20

M

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rebuild. The impeller will break if you try to pull or press on it. The =
impeller is brittle because it is made from unobtainium. I can=E2=80=99t =
recall if Mike includes the instructions to make a do-it-yourself press =
but it is simple. You need a flat steel plate about slightly larger than =
the pulley, drill four oversize holes to match the ones in the pulley. =
Get a space, such as a socket that is slightly smaller than the end of =
the water pump shaft. Put it over the end of the shaft and bolt the =
plate over it onto the pulley. Tighten the bolts in an alternating =
sequence to press the pulley shaft free from the pulley. When you press =
the pulley back on don=E2=80=99t press on the impeller, only press on =
the shaft and pulley. Make a note of the clearance from the impeller to =
the pump body and the depth of the shaft into the pulley so you can =
obtain the proper clearances when fitting it all back =
together.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Michael Salter<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 28, 2021 3:01 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Keith Pennell &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Water pump =
leak<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Look =
very carefully Keith and you will probably find that the leakage is from =
the hole in the casting just forward of the =
gasket.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>That hole is there =
to allow any coolant that comes past the seal to leak out before it can =
get into the bearings.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Those pumps are pretty easy to rebuild. The =
instructions are in the Workshop Manual and I&nbsp; have a kit for =
them.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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From: Michael Oritt <[email-masked]>
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"This pump has been on the engine for maybe 30 years or more"
----------------------------------------------------
Only 30 years--Totally unacceptable!  Get your money back.

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 5:49 PM llennep--- via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Hey Listers!
> Is it reasonable or unusual for a leak to develop through/out of the water
> pump gasket?  This pump has been on the engine for maybe 30 years or more -
> not sure.  There is a visible slow leak but does not seem to be coming from
> the shaft as normal place.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">&quot=
;This pump has been on the engine for maybe 30 years or more&quot;</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">-------------------------=
---------------------------</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"colo=
r:#3333ff">Only 30 years--Totally unacceptable!=C2=A0 Get your money back.<=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 5:49 PM llennep--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
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<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Hey Listers=
!<span></span>
<div>Is it reasonable or unusual for a leak to develop through/out of the w=
ater pump gasket?=C2=A0 This pump has been on the engine for maybe 30 years=
 or more - not sure.=C2=A0 There is a visible slow leak but does not seem t=
o be coming from the shaft as normal place.</div>
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f the different versions of the Healey water pumps had a lubricating point.=
 Is there a part number on the pump that doesn=E2=80=99t have a lubricating=
 point? It may be from a different car or an aftermarket reproduction.</p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Harold<o:p></=
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in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From:=
 </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">llennep--- via Healeys</a><b=
r><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, December 28, 2021 3:12 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject: </=
b>Re: [Healeys] Water pump leak</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</=
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e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>And can a=
nyone explain why some pumps have bearing lubricating access with screw and=
 some pumps do not? &nbsp;I have one of each here.<br><br><o:p></o:p></span=
></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=
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:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Is it reasonable or unu=
sual for a leak to develop through/out of the water pump gasket? &nbsp;This=
 pump has been on the engine for maybe 30 years or more - not sure. &nbsp;T=
here is a visible slow leak but does not seem to be coming from the shaft a=
s normal place.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=
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All but one of the aftermarket pumps I've seen, which are usually 
'County' brand (don't get me started) have the casting boss but no zerk 
or other fitting. There is one aftermarket pump for 100s that has a zerk 
(but not the correct heater valve):

https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx

My BJ8 had, I think, its original pump when I bought it. It had a weird 
fitting, a little cup with a lid on it IIRC. I bought a 
greaser--basically a large metal syringe--and special 'water pump 
grease' and used it, but it eventually failed anyway. The grease is the 
thickest and tackiest grease I've seen.

On 12/28/2021 7:59 PM, Harold Manifold wrote:
>
> All of the different versions of the Healey water pumps had a 
> lubricating point. Is there a part number on the pump that doesn’t 
> have a lubricating point? It may be from a different car or an 
> aftermarket reproduction.
>
> Harold
>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 28, 2021 3:12 PM
> *To: [email-masked]
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Water pump leak
>
> And can anyone explain why some pumps have bearing lubricating access 
> with screw and some pumps do not?  I have one of each here.
>
> Is it reasonable or unusual for a leak to develop through/out of the 
> water pump gasket?  This pump has been on the engine for maybe 30 
> years or more - not sure.  There is a visible slow leak but does not 

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    All but one of the aftermarket pumps I've seen, which are usually
    'County' brand (don't get me started) have the casting boss but no
    zerk or other fitting. There is one aftermarket pump for 100s that
    has a zerk (but not the correct heater valve):<br>
    <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx</a><br>
    <br>
    My BJ8 had, I think, its original pump when I bought it. It had a
    weird fitting, a little cup with a lid on it IIRC. I bought a
    greaser--basically a large metal syringe--and special 'water pump
    grease' and used it, but it eventually failed anyway. The grease is
    the thickest and tackiest grease I've seen.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/28/2021 7:59 PM, Harold Manifold
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        <p class="MsoNormal">All of the different versions of the Healey
          water pumps had a lubricating point. Is there a part number on
          the pump that doesn’t have a lubricating point? It may be from
          a different car or an aftermarket reproduction.</p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Harold<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From:
            </b><a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
              moz-do-not-send="true">llennep--- via Healeys</a><br>
            <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, December 28, 2021 3:12 PM<br>
            <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
              moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email-masked]</a><br>
            <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Water pump leak</p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">And
              can anyone explain why some pumps have bearing lubricating
              access with screw and some pumps do not?  I have one of
              each here.<br>
              <br>
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
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                From: llennep--- via Healeys
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
                Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 5:48 pm<br>
                Subject: [Healeys] Water pump leak<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Is
                      it reasonable or unusual for a leak to develop
                      through/out of the water pump gasket?  This pump
                      has been on the engine for maybe 30 years or more
                      - not sure.  There is a visible slow leak but does
                      not seem to be coming from the shaft as normal
                      place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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There was an AEC2019 original body casting for the late pumps which had no
facility for lubrication because this pump used a sealed cartridge type
bearing.
The earlier versions of the AEC2019 did have a lubrication hole which was
closed off with a plug.
This is a picture of the bottom such a pump casting,
For Keith the hole with the rust stains is where coolant that leaks past
the seal leaks out.

M

On Tue., Dec. 28, 2021, 6:39 p.m. , <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Thank you for the reply Michael.  That hole is sort of rectangular and
> above the shaft right?  I don't see anything coming from there.  This is a
> 3/8 belt pulley.  Pic attached.
> Keith
>
>
> From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 6:01 pm

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto"><span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">There was an AEC2019 original =
body casting for the late pumps which had no facility for lubrication becau=
se this pump used a sealed cartridge type bearing.<br></span></div><div><sp=
an class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:=
small">The earlier versions of the AEC2019 did have a lubrication hole whic=
h was closed off with a plug.<br></span></div><div><span class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">This is a pict=
ure of the bottom such a pump casting,<br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><i=
mg src=3D"cid:ii_kxrtmhtu0" alt=3D"image.png" width=3D"373" height=3D"507">=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small" class=3D"gmail_default">For Keith the hole with the rust stains is=
 where coolant that leaks past the seal leaks out.</div><div style=3D"font-=
family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>=
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_=
default">M<br></div><br><br><span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"></span></div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue., Dec. 28, 2021, =
6:39 p.m. , &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">ll=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
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<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Thank you f=
or the reply Michael.=C2=A0 That hole is sort of rectangular and above the =
shaft right?=C2=A0 I don&#39;t see anything coming from there.=C2=A0 This i=
s a 3/8 belt pulley.=C2=A0 Pic attached.

<div>Keith<br clear=3D"none">

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From: Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one">
To: Keith Pennell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"=
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<div>Look very carefully Keith and you will probably find that the leakage =
is from the hole in the casting just forward of the gasket.=C2=A0

<div>That hole is there to allow any coolant that comes past the seal to le=
ak out before it can get into the bearings.</div>

<div>Those pumps are pretty easy to rebuild. The instructions are in the Wo=
rkshop Manual and I=C2=A0 have a kit for them.</div>

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Thanks Michael. =C2=A0In the pic I sent did you notice the unusual pulley f=
itted? =C2=A03/8 pulley as well. =C2=A0It also has the lubrication hole. =
=C2=A0I ran the car today and with close looking spied the dribble from tha=
t lower hole you mentioned.
I have another pump of unknown condition - took it off another BJ8 long lon=
g ago. =C2=A0No lube hole so must be for later car. =C2=A0Spins free with n=
o play or grinding. =C2=A0Think I may make a gasket for it and put it on. =
=C2=A0Not much to lose but a little of my time which is cheap.=C2=A0

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
To: Keith Pennell <[email-masked]>; [email-masked] <healeys@au=
tox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Dec 29, 2021 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water pump leak

There was an AEC2019 original body casting for the late pumps which had no =
facility for lubrication because this pump used a sealed cartridge type bea=
ring.
The earlier versions of the AEC2019 did have a lubrication hole which was c=
losed off with a plug.
This is a picture of the bottom such a pump casting,
For Keith the hole with the rust stains is where coolant that leaks past th=
e seal leaks out.
M

Thank you for the reply Michael.=C2=A0 That hole is sort of rectangular and=
 above the shaft right?=C2=A0 I don't see anything coming from there.=C2=A0=
 This is a 3/8 belt pulley.=C2=A0 Pic attached.Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
To: Keith Pennell <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 6:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water pump leak

Look very carefully Keith and you will probably find that the leakage is fr=
om the hole in the casting just forward of the gasket.=C2=A0That hole is th=
ere to allow any coolant that comes past the seal to leak out before it can=
 get into the bearings.Those pumps are pretty easy to rebuild. The instruct=
ions are in the Workshop Manual and I=C2=A0 have a kit for them.
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<div>I have another pump of unknown condition - took it off another BJ8 long long ago. &nbsp;No lube hole so must be for later car. &nbsp;Spins free with no play or grinding. &nbsp;Think I may make a gasket for it and put it on. &nbsp;Not much to lose but a little of my time which is cheap.&nbsp;<br clear="none">
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<div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:small;" class="yiv4742618888gmail_default">There was an AEC2019 original body casting for the late pumps which had no facility for lubrication because this pump used a sealed cartridge type bearing.<br clear="none"></span></div>

<div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:small;" class="yiv4742618888gmail_default">The earlier versions of the AEC2019 did have a lubrication hole which was closed off with a plug.<br clear="none"></span></div>

<div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:small;" class="yiv4742618888gmail_default">This is a picture of the bottom such a pump casting,<br clear="none"></span></div>

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<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:small;" class="yiv4742618888gmail_default">For Keith the hole with the rust stains is where coolant that leaks past the seal leaks out.</div>

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<div dir="ltr" class="yiv4742618888gmail_attr">On Tue., Dec. 28, 2021, 6:39 p.m. , &lt;<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none"></div>

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<div style="color:black;font:10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Thank you for the reply Michael.&nbsp; That hole is sort of rectangular and above the shaft right?&nbsp; I don't see anything coming from there.&nbsp; This is a 3/8 belt pulley.&nbsp; Pic attached.

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<div>Look very carefully Keith and you will probably find that the leakage is from the hole in the casting just forward of the gasket.&nbsp;

<div>That hole is there to allow any coolant that comes past the seal to leak out before it can get into the bearings.</div>

<div>Those pumps are pretty easy to rebuild. The instructions are in the Workshop Manual and I&nbsp; have a kit for them.</div>

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If the carbon water seal has not been used for a long time it will most =
likely leak just as your current pump does.

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llennep--- via Healeys
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2021 2:28 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water pump leak

=20

Thanks Michael.  In the pic I sent did you notice the unusual pulley =
fitted?  3/8 pulley as well.  It also has the lubrication hole.  I ran =
the car today and with close looking spied the dribble from that lower =
hole you mentioned.=20

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I have another pump of unknown condition - took it off another BJ8 long =
long ago.  No lube hole so must be for later car.  Spins free with no =
play or grinding.  Think I may make a gasket for it and put it on.  Not =
much to lose but a little of my time which is cheap.=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Salter <[email-masked] =
Sent: Wed, Dec 29, 2021 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water pump leak

There was an AEC2019 original body casting for the late pumps which had =
no facility for lubrication because this pump used a sealed cartridge =
type bearing.

The earlier versions of the AEC2019 did have a lubrication hole which =
was closed off with a plug.

For Keith the hole with the rust stains is where coolant that leaks past =
the seal leaks out.

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On Tue., Dec. 28, 2021, 6:39 p.m. , <[email-masked] =

Thank you for the reply Michael.  That hole is sort of rectangular and =
above the shaft right?  I don't see anything coming from there.  This is =
a 3/8 belt pulley.  Pic attached.=20

Keith

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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Salter <[email-masked] =
Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2021 6:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water pump leak

Look very carefully Keith and you will probably find that the leakage is =
from the hole in the casting just forward of the gasket. =20

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>If the carbon water seal has not been used for a long time it will most =
likely leak just as your current pump does.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
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Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>llennep--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 29, 2021 =
2:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Water pump =
leak<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div =
id=3Dyiv4742618888><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tha=
nks Michael. &nbsp;In the pic I sent did you notice the unusual pulley =
fitted? &nbsp;3/8 pulley as well. &nbsp;It also has the lubrication =
hole. &nbsp;I ran the car today and with close looking spied the dribble =
from that lower hole you mentioned. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
have another pump of unknown condition - took it off another BJ8 long =
long ago. &nbsp;No lube hole so must be for later car. &nbsp;Spins free =
with no play or grinding. &nbsp;Think I may make a gasket for it and put =
it on. &nbsp;Not much to lose but a little of my time which is =
cheap.&nbsp;<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dyiv4742618888yqt76389><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Michael Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<b=
r>To: Keith Pennell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=
Sent: Wed, Dec 29, 2021 12:40 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water pump =
leak<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv4742618888><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dyiv4742618888gmaildefault><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>There was an =
AEC2019 original body casting for the late pumps which had no facility =
for lubrication because this pump used a sealed cartridge type =
bearing.</span></span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
class=3Dyiv4742618888gmaildefault><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The earlier =
versions of the AEC2019 did have a lubrication hole which was closed off =
with a plug.</span></span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
class=3Dyiv4742618888gmaildefault><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>This is a picture =
of the bottom such a pump casting,</span></span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
><img border=3D0 width=3D373 height=3D507 id=3D"_x0000_i1025" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]" =
alt=3Dimage.png><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>For Keith the hole =
with the rust stains is where coolant that leaks past the seal leaks =
out.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>On Tue., Dec. 28, 2021, 6:39 p.m. , &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tha=
nk you for the reply Michael.&nbsp; That hole is sort of rectangular and =
above the shaft right?&nbsp; I don't see anything coming from =
there.&nbsp; This is a 3/8 belt pulley.&nbsp; Pic attached. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Kei=
th<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"yiv4742618888gmail-m_4232163208409345586gmail-m_-861390498160384084=
7m_6059812440212868371yiv8637929679yqt70193"><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Michael Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: Keith Pennell =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Tue, Dec 28, =
2021 6:01 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water pump =
leak<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"yiv4742618888gmail-m_4232163208409345586gmail-m_-861390498160384084=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>Look very carefully Keith and you will probably find that the leakage =
is from the hole in the casting just forward of the gasket.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>That hole is there to allow any coolant that comes past the seal to =
leak out before it can get into the =
bearings.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
>Those pumps are pretty easy to rebuild. The instructions are in the =
Workshop Manual and I&nbsp; have a kit for =
them.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
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