Subject: [Healeys] Body panels.

From: David Lodge via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2021 20:01:55 +0000 (UTC)

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Can anyone please tell me if the Kilmartin rocker panels for the BJ8 are worth three times as much as those from Moss?
I have to declare that I have had Kilmartin stuff before, and whilst good, it's not been perfect!

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From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 04:52:22 +0000

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As explained in an article by the late Rich Chrysler, there are no straight=
 lines on an Austin Healey. The correct rocker panels will have a very subt=
le compound curve which bows slightly to the outside of the body and also d=
roops a bit under the doors. These must be made in a press. Many after mark=
et rockers are produced on a brake, which can only give a straight fold. Th=
ese parts mar the symmetry of the intended body line. If you have ever seen=
 a car that just had something wrong either the look of the lower body it p=
robably had the straight rockers installed. I don=92t know anything about t=
he Moss part, but I know the KAS part is correct.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
________________________________
From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of David Lodge via=
 Healeys <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 8:01 PM
To: Austin Healey <[email-masked]>; A. H. List <austinhealeyslist@g=
mail.com>
Cc: David Lodge <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] Body panels.

Can anyone please tell me if the Kilmartin rocker panels for the BJ8 are wo=
rth three times as much as those from Moss?

I have to declare that I have had Kilmartin stuff before, and whilst good, =
it's not been perfect!

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<div>As explained in an article by the late Rich Chrysler, there are no str=
aight lines on an Austin Healey. The correct rocker panels will have a very=
 subtle compound curve which bows slightly to the outside of the body and a=
lso droops a bit under the doors.
 These must be made in a press. Many after market rockers are produced on a=
 brake, which can only give a straight fold. These parts mar the symmetry o=
f the intended body line. If you have ever seen a car that just had somethi=
ng wrong either the look of the
 lower body it probably had the straight rockers installed. I don=92t know =
anything about the Moss part, but I know the KAS part is correct.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bill Lawrence</div>
<div>BN1 #554</div>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healeys-b=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of David Lodge via Healeys &lt;healeys@=
autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 12, 2021 8:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Austin Healey &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; A. H. List &lt;aus=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> David Lodge &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Body panels.</font>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Can anyone please tell me if the Kilmartin rocker panels f=
or the BJ8 are worth three times as much as those from Moss?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I have to declare that I have had Kilmartin stuff before, =
and whilst good, it's not been perfect!<br>
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From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 04:56:41 +0000

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=93either=94 =3D with... Damned auto incorrect.
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From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of WILLIAM B LAWRE=
NCE <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 4:52 AM
To: David Lodge via Healeys <[email-masked]>; A. H. List <austinhea=
[email-masked]>; David Lodge <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Body panels.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554

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<div>=93either=94 =3D with... Damned auto incorrect.</div>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healeys-b=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &lt;[email-masked]=
om&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 13, 2021 4:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Lodge via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; A. H. Li=
st &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; David Lodge &lt;emmgeeteesee@gmail.=
com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Body panels.</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>As explained in an article by the late Rich Chrysler, there are no str=
aight lines on an Austin Healey. The correct rocker panels will have a very=
 subtle compound curve which bows slightly to the outside of the body and a=
lso droops a bit under the doors.
 These must be made in a press. Many after market rockers are produced on a=
 brake, which can only give a straight fold. These parts mar the symmetry o=
f the intended body line. If you have ever seen a car that just had somethi=
ng wrong either the look of the
 lower body it probably had the straight rockers installed. I don=92t know =
anything about the Moss part, but I know the KAS part is correct.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bill Lawrence</div>
<div>BN1 #554</div>
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color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healeys=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of David Lodge via Healeys &lt;healey=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 12, 2021 8:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Austin Healey &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; A. H. List &lt;aus=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> David Lodge &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Body panels.</font>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Can anyone please tell me if the Kilmartin rocker panels f=
or the BJ8 are worth three times as much as those from Moss?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I have to declare that I have had Kilmartin stuff before, =
and whilst good, it's not been perfect!<br>
</div>
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I'll second that.  Colin Bailey, who did Rich's bodywork, used the Kilmartin
rockers on mine and Rich gave me that same speech about curves! When I first
had the rockers done way back in '78, I got replacements from Sports and
Classics, but they were straight and Rich would tease me mercilessly about
them.  When he re-did them in 2008 he put them right.

Cheers, MIrek

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of WILLIAM B
LAWRENCE
Sent: December 12, 2021 11:52 PM
To: David Lodge via Healeys <[email-masked]>; A. H. List
<[email-masked]>; David Lodge <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Body panels.

As explained in an article by the late Rich Chrysler, there are no straight
lines on an Austin Healey. The correct rocker panels will have a very subtle
compound curve which bows slightly to the outside of the body and also
droops a bit under the doors. These must be made in a press. Many after
market rockers are produced on a brake, which can only give a straight fold.
These parts mar the symmetry of the intended body line. If you have ever
seen a car that just had something wrong either the look of the lower body
it probably had the straight rockers installed. I don't know anything about
the Moss part, but I know the KAS part is correct.

Bill Lawrence

BN1 #554

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From: Healeys <[email-masked]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2021 8:01 PM

Can anyone please tell me if the Kilmartin rocker panels for the BJ8 are
worth three times as much as those from Moss?

I have to declare that I have had Kilmartin stuff before, and whilst good,
it's not been perfect!

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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I&#8217;ll second that.&nbsp; Colin =
Bailey, who did Rich&#8217;s bodywork, used the Kilmartin rockers on =
mine and Rich gave me that same speech about curves! When I first had =
the rockers done way back in &#8217;78, I got replacements from Sports =
and Classics, but they were straight and Rich would tease me mercilessly =
about them.&nbsp; When he re-did them in 2008 he put them =
right.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers, =
MIrek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
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lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>WILLIAM B =
LAWRENCE<br><b>Sent:</b> December 12, 2021 11:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> David =
Lodge via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; A. H. List =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; David Lodge =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Body =
panels.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>As =
explained in an article by the late Rich Chrysler, there are no straight =
lines on an Austin Healey. The correct rocker panels will have a very =
subtle compound curve which bows slightly to the outside of the body and =
also droops a bit under the doors. These must be made in a press. Many =
after market rockers are produced on a brake, which can only give a =
straight fold. These parts mar the symmetry of the intended body line. =
If you have ever seen a car that just had something wrong either the =
look of the lower body it probably had the straight rockers installed. I =
don&#8217;t know anything about the Moss part, but I know the KAS part =
is correct.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bill Lawrence<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>BN1 #554<o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal =
align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"98%" =
align=3Dcenter></div><div id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'color:black'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'color:black'> Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
.net</a>&gt; on behalf of David Lodge via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 12, 2021 8:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Austin =
Healey &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; =
A. H. List &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> David Lodge &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Can anyone =
please tell me if the Kilmartin rocker panels for the BJ8 are worth =
three times as much as those from =
Moss?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I have to =
declare that I have had Kilmartin stuff before, and whilst good, it's =
not been =
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Kenneth, I=92m afraid I can=92t help with your question. My car is a birds =
and as such doesn=92t have its original running gear. I vaguely remember he=
aring about some cars with 16=94 wheels, but can=92t recall the circumstanc=
es.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
________________________________
From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of m.g.sharp@sympa=
tico.ca <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2021 1:24 PM
To: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Body panels.

I=92ll second that.  Colin Bailey, who did Rich=92s bodywork, used the Kilm=
artin rockers on mine and Rich gave me that same speech about curves! When =
I first had the rockers done way back in =9278, I got replacements from Spo=
rts and Classics, but they were straight and Rich would tease me mercilessl=
y about them.  When he re-did them in 2008 he put them right.

Cheers, MIrek

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of WILLIAM B LAWRE=
NCE

Bill Lawrence

BN1 #554

team.net>> on behalf of David Lodge via Healeys <[email-masked]<mai=
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<div>Kenneth, I=92m afraid I can=92t help with your question. My car is a b=
irds and as such doesn=92t have its original running gear. I vaguely rememb=
er hearing about some cars with 16=94 wheels, but can=92t recall the circum=
stances.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bill Lawrence</div>
<div>BN1 #554</div>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healeys-b=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of [email-masked] &lt;m.g.sharp=
@sympatico.ca&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 13, 2021 1:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Body panels.</font>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"">I=92ll second that.&nbsp; Colin B=
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ch gave me that same speech about curves! When I first had the rockers done=
 way back in =9278, I got replacements from Sports
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=3D"EN-US"> Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>WILLIAM B LAWRENCE<br>
<b>Sent:</b> December 12, 2021 11:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Lodge via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; A. H. Li=
st &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; David Lodge &lt;emmgeeteesee@gmail.=
com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Body panels.</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">As explained in an article by the late Rich Chrysl=
er, there are no straight lines on an Austin Healey. The correct rocker pan=
els will have a very subtle compound curve which bows slightly to the outsi=
de of the body and also droops a bit
 under the doors. These must be made in a press. Many after market rockers =
are produced on a brake, which can only give a straight fold. These parts m=
ar the symmetry of the intended body line. If you have ever seen a car that=
 just had something wrong either
 the look of the lower body it probably had the straight rockers installed.=
 I don=92t know anything about the Moss part, but I know the KAS part is co=
rrect.</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Bill Lawrence</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">BN1 #554</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:black">From:</span></b><sp=
an style=3D"color:black"> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of David Lodg=
e via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
eam.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 12, 2021 8:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Austin Healey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">heal=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; A. H. List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:austinhealeysl=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> David Lodge &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">emmg=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Body panels.</span> </p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot=
;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Can anyone please tell me if the Kilmartin roc=
ker panels for the BJ8 are worth three times as much as those from Moss?</s=
pan></p>
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;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot=
;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">I have to declare that I have had Kilmartin st=
uff before, and whilst good, it's not been perfect!</span></p>
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