Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number on Austin 6 cylinder engine

From: Peter Dzwig via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2021 12:01:05 +0000

Richard,

see here:

<https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-100-six-forum.5/100-6-cylinder-weslake-head-numbers.183672/>

It doesn't address your *specific* number but I guess that the answer is
in line with what it says there namely that it's a Westlake head.

Regards,

Peter

On 05/12/2021 01:26, richard mayor via Healeys wrote:
> What I thought was an Austin Healey 3000 engine has a casting number on
> the side of the block 12B266.    It has the early style Austin block
> with the tachometer drive housing.  The boss for the engine tag is in
> the same place as the 3000 engines.
> 
> I looked at a couple of early 3000 engines and the casting numbers on
> them are AEC881.
> 
> Does anyone know what engine this is?
> 
> Richard
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From: Peter Dzwig via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2021 12:02:53 +0000

SCRAP THAT! I got the question the wrong way round! :-(

Peter

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From: Peter Dzwig via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2021 16:55:04 +0000

Try again!

As far as I can see from the manuals and sites I have looked at, the
form "AEC xyz" is the standard BMC parts format for pretty much
anything), e.g. AEC 607 is a C series liner.

Now, see this page (no, really!)

<https://www.britishcarforum.com/community/threads/help-me-identify-the-engine.95536/>

look at the second photo which shows the number and some sort of logo
beneath it. Now follow the contributions by "BJ8 Healey".

My guess - and it is only that - is that 12B refers to a block cast by
whoever's logo that is and 266 is the sequence number in the run *not* a
part number.

Regards,

Peter

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From: richard mayor via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2021 09:45:09 -0800

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I am talking about the casting number on the "block".   Not the cylinder
head

On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 4:01 AM Peter Dzwig <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Richard,
>
> see here:
>
> <
> https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-100-six-forum.5/100-6-cylinder-weslake-head-numbers.183672/
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I am talking about the casting number on the &quot;block&q=
uot;. =C2=A0 Not the cylinder head<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 4:01 AM Peter =
Dzwig &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">pdzwig@summaventures.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x">Richard,<br>
<br>
see here:<br>
<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-100-six-forum.5/100-6-cylind=
er-weslake-head-numbers.183672/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https=
://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-100-six-forum.5/100-6-cylinder-weslake-head-numb=
ers.183672/</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
It doesn&#39;t address your *specific* number but I guess that the answer i=
s<br>
in line with what it says there namely that it&#39;s a Westlake head.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Peter<br>
<br>
On 05/12/2021 01:26, richard mayor via Healeys wrote:<br>
&gt; What I thought was an Austin Healey 3000 engine has a casting number o=
n<br>
&gt; the side of the block 12B266.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 It has the early style=
 Austin block<br>
&gt; with the tachometer drive housing.=C2=A0 The boss for the engine tag i=
s in<br>
&gt; the same place as the 3000 engines.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I looked at a couple of early 3000 engines and the casting numbers on<=
br>
&gt; them are AEC881.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Does anyone know what engine this is?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Richard<br>
&gt; <br>
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From: BJ8Healeys via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2021 14:36:00 -0500

Peter, since you referred Mr. Mayor to my comment of 16 March 2014 at BCF, I need to follow up.   I still believe 12B 766 is a part number.  Exactly which part, I don't know.  It isn't specifically identified as a serviceable part in the parts manual, which to me means that it wasn't a part that could be ordered from a dealer, so I interpreted it as a casting number.  My BJ8 engine has the same number in the same place. 
The BMC Mechanical Service Parts List for BJ7/BJ8 (Publication number AKD 3523) identifies several other detail parts of the engine that have similar part numbers, e.g.
Piston Assembly 12B 1159
Camshaft  12B 594
Crankshaft pulley with damper  12B 1274
Washer, nut (crankshaft dog nut) 12B 681

Other engine parts have similar, but different initial numbers
Flywheel  22B 136
Cylinder side cover (center) 2A 770

I'm sure the 12 or 12B and similar codes meant something to BMC but to know exactly what we would need more BMC design documentation than what appears to be available now.  12 or 12B means some part of an engine assembly, I would guess.

Someone some time ago was trying to document engine casting codes in an effort to figure out what they meant (date of the casting, etc.) but I forget now who that was.  I never paid much attention to those markings because I didn't think they were helpful in identification of a car, but since that post to the list I did try to identify those markings on my BJ8 engine and document as many others as possible.  Some of them are very difficult to access with the engine and other stuff installed.  The few I did record as reported by owners are these:

24A40 (or 24A49, last digit partially illegible) - engine 29K/RU/H977
7M4C - 29K/RU/H1670
D4C - 29K/RU/H1753
24A4C - 29K/RU/H1477
3H4D - 29K/RU/H3186
27H4C - 29K/RU/H5843
C23F5 - 29K/RU/H6295
C21F5 - 29K/RU/H11327 (my engine. Has 1 63 on the driver's side, both were cast with the block.

The apparent casting number of the unknown engine at BCF was L3C.

I do not know what the "M" in a diamond-shape logo means, but my engine has it also.

For what it's worth.....

Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC  USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Peter Dzwig via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 11:55 AM
To: richard mayor; healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number on Austin 6 cylinder engine - AGAIN

Try again!

Regards,

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From: Mark Donaldson via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 10:55:56 +1300

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To add to Steve=E2=80=99s comments  . . .  I have a spare engine to back =
up my BJ8 engine.

It is from a Wolseley 6/110 Mk II and the block is exactly the same, =
also with part number 12B 766, and the stylised =E2=80=98M=E2=80=99 in =
the diamond directly below the engine number. =20

Right or wrong, I have always understood that logo to represent the =
engine manufacturer =E2=80=93 Morris.

=20

Cheers

Mark

=20

Ardmore

NZ

=20

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: BJ8Healeys <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Monday, 6 December 2021 8:36 AM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number on Austin 6 cylinder =
engine - AGAIN

=20

Peter, since you referred Mr. Mayor to my comment of 16 March 2014 at =
BCF, I need to follow up.   I still believe 12B 766 is a part number.  =
Exactly which part, I don't know.  It isn't specifically identified as a =
serviceable part in the parts manual, which to me means that it wasn't a =
part that could be ordered from a dealer, so I interpreted it as a =
casting number.  My BJ8 engine has the same number in the same place.=20

The BMC Mechanical Service Parts List for BJ7/BJ8 (Publication number =
AKD 3523) identifies several other detail parts of the engine that have =
similar part numbers, e.g.

Piston Assembly 12B 1159

Camshaft  12B 594

=20

Other engine parts have similar, but different initial numbers Flywheel  =
22B 136 Cylinder side cover (center) 2A 770

=20

I'm sure the 12 or 12B and similar codes meant something to BMC but to =
know exactly what we would need more BMC design documentation than what =
appears to be available now.  12 or 12B means some part of an engine =
assembly, I would guess.

=20

Someone some time ago was trying to document engine casting codes in an =
effort to figure out what they meant (date of the casting, etc.) but I =
forget now who that was.  I never paid much attention to those markings =
because I didn't think they were helpful in identification of a car, but =
since that post to the list I did try to identify those markings on my =
BJ8 engine and document as many others as possible.  Some of them are =
very difficult to access with the engine and other stuff installed.  The =
few I did record as reported by owners are these:

=20

24A40 (or 24A49, last digit partially illegible) - engine 29K/RU/H977 =
7M4C - 29K/RU/H1670 D4C - 29K/RU/H1753 24A4C - 29K/RU/H1477 3H4D - =
29K/RU/H3186 27H4C - 29K/RU/H5843

C23F5 - 29K/RU/H6295

C21F5 - 29K/RU/H11327 (my engine. Has 1 63 on the driver's side, both =
were cast with the block.

=20

=20

I do not know what the "M" in a diamond-shape logo means, but my engine =
has it also.

=20

For what it's worth.....

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  USA

=20

=20

=20

-----Original Message-----

mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Peter Dzwig via =
Healeys

Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number on Austin 6 cylinder =
engine - AGAIN

=20

Try again!

=20

As far as I can see from the manuals and sites I have looked at, the =
form "AEC xyz" is the standard BMC parts format for pretty much =
anything), e.g. AEC 607 is a C series liner.

=20

=20

< =
<https://www.britishcarforum.com/community/threads/help-me-identify-the-e=
ngine.95536/> =
https://www.britishcarforum.com/community/threads/help-me-identify-the-en=
gine.95536/>

=20

look at the second photo which shows the number and some sort of logo =
beneath it. Now follow the contributions by "BJ8 Healey".

=20

My guess - and it is only that - is that 12B refers to a block cast by =
whoever's logo that is and 266 is the sequence number in the run *not* a =
part number.

=20

Regards,

=20

Peter

=20

>=20

>=20

> <https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-100-six-forum.5/100-6-cylinder-weslak

> e-head-numbers.183672/>

>=20

> It doesn't address your *specific* number but I guess that the answer=20

> is in line with what it says there namely that it's a Westlake head.

>=20

>=20

>=20

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'>To add to Steve=E2=80=99s comments=C2=A0 . . =
.=C2=A0 I have a spare engine to back up my BJ8 =
engine.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'>It is from a <b>Wolseley 6/110 Mk II</b> and the =
block is exactly the same, also with part number 12B 766, and the =
stylised =E2=80=98M=E2=80=99 in the diamond directly below the engine =
number.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'>Right or wrong, I have always understood that =
logo to represent the engine manufacturer =E2=80=93 =
<b>Morris</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'>Ardmore<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:#000066'>NZ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>From: BJ8Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>Sent: =
Monday, 6 December 2021 8:36 AM<br>To: [email-masked]<br>Cc: =
[email-masked]<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number =
on Austin 6 cylinder engine - AGAIN</span><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>Peter, since you =
referred Mr. Mayor to my comment of 16 March 2014 at BCF, I need to =
follow up.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I still believe 12B 766 is a part number.=C2=A0 =
Exactly which part, I don't know.=C2=A0 It isn't specifically identified =
as a serviceable part in the parts manual, which to me means that it =
wasn't a part that could be ordered from a dealer, so I interpreted it =
as a casting number.=C2=A0 My BJ8 engine has the same number in the same =
place. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>The BMC Mechanical Service Parts List for =
BJ7/BJ8 (Publication number AKD 3523) identifies several other detail =
parts of the engine that have similar part numbers, =
e.g.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Piston Assembly 12B =
1159<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Camshaft=C2=A0 12B =
594<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Crankshaft pulley with damper=C2=A0 12B =
1274<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Washer, nut (crankshaft dog nut) 12B =
681<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>Other engine parts =
have similar, but different initial numbers Flywheel=C2=A0 22B 136 =
Cylinder side cover (center) 2A 770<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>I'm sure the 12 or =
12B and similar codes meant something to BMC but to know exactly what we =
would need more BMC design documentation than what appears to be =
available now.=C2=A0 12 or 12B means some part of an engine assembly, I =
would guess.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>Someone some time =
ago was trying to document engine casting codes in an effort to figure =
out what they meant (date of the casting, etc.) but I forget now who =
that was.=C2=A0 I never paid much attention to those markings because I =
didn't think they were helpful in identification of a car, but since =
that post to the list I did try to identify those markings on my BJ8 =
engine and document as many others as possible.=C2=A0 Some of them are =
very difficult to access with the engine and other stuff =
installed.=C2=A0 The few I did record as reported by owners are =
these:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>24A40 (or 24A49, =
last digit partially illegible) - engine 29K/RU/H977 7M4C - 29K/RU/H1670 =
D4C - 29K/RU/H1753 24A4C - 29K/RU/H1477 3H4D - 29K/RU/H3186 27H4C - =
29K/RU/H5843<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>C23F5 - 29K/RU/H6295<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>C21F5 - =
29K/RU/H11327 (my engine. Has 1 63 on the driver's side, both were cast =
with the block.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>The apparent =
casting number of the unknown engine at BCF was =
L3C.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>I do not know what =
the &quot;M&quot; in a diamond-shape logo means, but my engine has it =
also.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>For what it's =
worth.....<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>Steve =
Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>BJ8 =
Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>AHCA Delegate at =
Large<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Havelock, NC=C2=A0 =
USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>-----Original =
Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>From: Healeys [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:healeys-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</span></a>] On Behalf Of Peter Dzwig via =
Healeys<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 11:55 =
AM<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>To: richard mayor; =
healeys<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number =
on Austin 6 cylinder engine - AGAIN<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>Try =
again!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>As far as I can =
see from the manuals and sites I have looked at, the form &quot;AEC =
xyz&quot; is the standard BMC parts format for pretty much anything), =
e.g. AEC 607 is a C series liner.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>Now, see this page =
(no, really!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&lt;<a =
href=3D"https://www.britishcarforum.com/community/threads/help-me-identif=
y-the-engine.95536/"><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://www.britishcarfor=
um.com/community/threads/help-me-identify-the-engine.95536/</span></a>&gt=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>look at the second =
photo which shows the number and some sort of logo beneath it. Now =
follow the contributions by &quot;BJ8 =
Healey&quot;.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>My guess - and it =
is only that - is that 12B refers to a block cast by whoever's logo that =
is and 266 is the sequence number in the run *not* a part =
number.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>On 05/12/2021 =
12:01, Peter Dzwig via Healeys wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; =
Richard,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; see =
here:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; =
&lt;https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-100-six-forum.5/100-6-cylinder-weslak=
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; =
e-head-numbers.183672/&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; It doesn't address your *specific* =
number but I guess that the answer <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; is in line =
with what it says there namely that it's a Westlake =
head.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; =
Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; =
Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt; On 05/12/2021 =
01:26, richard mayor via Healeys wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt;&gt; What I =
thought was an Austin Healey 3000 engine has a casting number =
on<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt;&gt; the side of the block =
12B266.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 It has the early style Austin =
block<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt;&gt; with the tachometer drive =
housing.=C2=A0 The boss for the engine tag is in =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt;&gt; the same place as the 3000 =
engines.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt;&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt;&gt; I looked =
at a couple of early 3000 engines and the casting numbers on =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt;&gt; them are =
AEC881.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt;&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt;&gt; Does =
anyone know what engine this is?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt;&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt;&gt; =
Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt;&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>&gt;&gt; =
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From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 22:46:16 -0000

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Actually it refers to The furnaces of Mordor. (More latterly to be found =
in NZ?).

Simon

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From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Mark =
Donaldson via Healeys
Sent: 06 December 2021 21:56
To: 'BJ8Healeys' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number on Austin 6 cylinder =
engine - AGAIN

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Cheers

Mark

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Ardmore

NZ

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&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark =
Donaldson via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 06 December 2021 =
21:56<br><b>To:</b> 'BJ8Healeys' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting =
number on Austin 6 cylinder engine - =
AGAIN<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'color:#000066'>To add to Steve=E2=80=99s =
comments&nbsp; . . .&nbsp; I have a spare engine to back up my BJ8 =
engine.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-NZ =
style=3D'color:#000066'>It is from a <b>Wolseley 6/110 Mk II</b> and the =
block is exactly the same, also with part number 12B 766, and the =
stylised =E2=80=98M=E2=80=99 in the diamond directly below the engine =
number.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-NZ style=3D'color:#000066'>Right or wrong, I have always =
understood that logo to represent the engine manufacturer =E2=80=93 =
<b>Morris</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
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From: Peter Dzwig <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 23:33:28 +0000

All,

Just to take it one step further I contacted BMIHT to see what they know
about these numbers. I finally got a response this morning.

Their reply was that these are casting numbers and not part numbers and
not dateable.

I think that the likelihood is DHMC or whoever (depending on which model
we are discussing) generated standard designs which were passed to the
various foundries who in turn allocated their own number to the design
and produced however many hundreds with the number on. Different
foundries would probably have given it different numbers.

There was no clarification about the logo.

Regards,

Peter

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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 02:43:00 +0000 (UTC)

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Block casting numbers can be tied to the engine number on each block. This =
assumes the tag is still in place.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Those engine numbers (29D th=
rough F and=C2=A0 K) are somewhat dateable and will give at least the model=
 the block was used in.=C2=A0Perry

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Dzwig <[email-masked]>
To: 'healeys' <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tue, Dec 14, 2021 6:33 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number on Austin 6 cylinder engine -=
 Reprise

All,

Regards,

Peter

On 05/12/2021 01:26, richard mayor via Healeys wrote:
> the side of the block 12B266.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 It has the early style Au=
stin block
> with the tachometer drive housing.=C2=A0 The boss for the engine tag is i=
n
> Suggested annual donation=C2=A0 $12.75
>=20
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/arch=
ive
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/pdzwig@=
summaventures.com

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Dr. Peter Dzwig

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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Block c=
asting numbers can be tied to the engine number on each block. This assumes=
 the tag is still in place.&nbsp; &nbsp;
<div>Those engine numbers (29D through F and&nbsp; K) are somewhat dateable=
 and will give at least the model the block was used in.&nbsp;</div>

<div>Perry<br>
<br>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Peter Dzwig &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: 'healeys' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Tue, Dec 14, 2021 6:33 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Mystery casting number on Austin 6 cylinder engine -=
 Reprise<br>
<br>

<div dir=3D"ltr">All,<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Just to take it =
one step further I contacted BMIHT to see what they know<br clear=3D"none">=
about these numbers. I finally got a response this morning.<br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none">Their reply was that these are casting numbers and no=
t part numbers and<br clear=3D"none">not dateable.<br clear=3D"none"><br cl=
ear=3D"none">I think that the likelihood is DHMC or whoever (depending on w=
hich model<br clear=3D"none">we are discussing) generated standard designs =
which were passed to the<br clear=3D"none">various foundries who in turn al=
located their own number to the design<br clear=3D"none">and produced howev=
er many hundreds with the number on. Different<br clear=3D"none">foundries =
would probably have given it different numbers.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">There was no clarification about the logo.<br clear=3D"none"><br =
clear=3D"none">Regards,<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Peter<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">On 05/12/2021 01:26, richard mayor via Healeys=
 wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; What I thought was an Austin Healey 3000 eng=
ine has a casting number on<br clear=3D"none">&gt; the side of the block 12=
B266.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It has the early style Austin block<br clear=3D"non=
e">&gt; with the tachometer drive housing.&nbsp; The boss for the engine ta=
g is in<br clear=3D"none">&gt; the same place as the 3000 engines.<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; I looked at a couple of early 3000 e=
ngines and the casting numbers on<br clear=3D"none">&gt; them are AEC881.<b=
r clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Does anyone know what engine =
this is?<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Richard<br clear=3D=
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