Subject: [Healeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks

From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <[email-masked]>
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Hi,

I have a late Mk II BT7. Centre change. So, my query is regarding the
gearstick.

The box is a BMC Goldseal replacement per the attached picture.

The stick has the two roll pins securing it which you'd expect up to BJ8s
which, I gather, had screws. But the bush under the stick in the white nylon
one which, I gather again, started with BJ8s. (To be fair, I've looked into
this and didn't find a definitive answer on the bushes). My gearbox seems to
be a bit of a BT7/BJ8 mixture.

My question is can you put a roll-pin gearstick into a BJ8? Or vice-verca?

Thanks,

Simon

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class=3DMsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have a late =
Mk II BT7. Centre change. So, my query is regarding the =
gearstick.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The box is a BMC Goldseal =
replacement per the attached picture.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The stick has the two roll pins securing it which =
you&#8217;d expect up to BJ8s which, I gather, had screws. But the bush =
under the stick in the white nylon one which, I gather again, started =
with BJ8s. (To be fair, I&#8217;ve looked into this and didn&#8217;t =
find a definitive answer on the bushes). My gearbox seems to be a bit of =
a BT7/BJ8 mixture.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>My question is can =
you put a roll-pin gearstick into a BJ8? Or vice-verca?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 08:45:12 -0500

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Pretty sure that the only change was the size of the ball upon which the
nylon bush rotates HOWEVER  there is a complication  ... there are nylon
bushes, from an MGB as I recall, which can be used with the lever with the
smaller ball end.

M

On Wed., Dec. 1, 2021, 8:21 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys, <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> The stick has the two roll pins securing it which you=E2=80=99d expect up=
 to BJ8s
> which, I gather, had screws. But the bush under the stick in the white
> nylon one which, I gather again, started with BJ8s. (To be fair, I=E2=80=
=99ve
> looked into this and didn=E2=80=99t find a definitive answer on the bushe=
s). My
> gearbox seems to be a bit of a BT7/BJ8 mixture.
>
> My question is can you put a roll-pin gearstick into a BJ8? Or vice-verca=
?
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<div dir=3D"auto">Pretty sure that the only change was the size of the ball=
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=A0 ... there are nylon bushes, from an MGB as I recall, which can be used =
with the lever with the smaller ball end.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d=
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ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed., Dec. 1, 2021, 8:21 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Heale=
ys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
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nk=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-2721426807019974277WordSe=
ction1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
I have a late Mk II BT7. Centre change. So, my query is regarding the gears=
tick.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The box is a BMC Goldseal rep=
lacement per the attached picture.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
The stick has the two roll pins securing it which you=E2=80=99d expect up t=
o BJ8s which, I gather, had screws. But the bush under the stick in the whi=
te nylon one which, I gather again, started with BJ8s. (To be fair, I=E2=80=
=99ve looked into this and didn=E2=80=99t find a definitive answer on the b=
ushes). My gearbox seems to be a bit of a BT7/BJ8 mixture.<u></u><u></u></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My question is can you put a roll-pin gearstick int=
o a BJ8? Or vice-verca?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
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From: Henry G Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 05:36:58 +0000 EI+vRaZtbb5j/zpOV6TXqQpby8BJ5kRVCPUaQ3eTsSy6GzDvuUYOD3PhOeylnemRFib2Q2j9QwWTejErU6zbdt8EaO3iuDGGb8te/wl7yQpPNzNCfqZvzPt7 FwCtQc0LJ/PhnjsjKiFLN77LsC3Z5e9cFFJW/rOTmt0=

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LETS BE CAREFUL HERE. WE HAVE OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN STUCK IN GEAR OR=0AWI=
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lip hold two halves of bush=0Atogether.=0ABJ8 lever 22B195-non/OD. Lever=
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ment starts with: GB 101-118=0Awo/OD, 101-1441 w/OD=0AWhat will happen i=
f you use the nylon bush in the MKII GB, is that=0Aafter a few shifts th=
e nylon will get mangled and there goes your=0Agears.=0AMKII BRASSMKIII=
 NYLON- DO NOT SUBSTITUTE. Hank=0A=0A=09--------------------------------=
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c: "Healeys"=0ASent: Wednesday December 1 2021 5:46:06AM=0ASubject: Re:=
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 looked into this and didn=E2=80=99t find a definitive answer on=0Athe b=
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<html><body>Lets be careful here. We have others who have been stuck in=
 gear or without gears. The nylon bush is <b>only used on the BJ8.&nbsp;=
 </b>The brass bush is used on the MK II gearbox, which <b>includes the=
 BJ7. </b>The BJ7 is actually a MK II Healey. The shift levers are diffe=
rent as well. Here are the numbers from the parts book:<div><br></div><d=
iv>BJ7 lever AEC8636, Bush-brass AEC 3520 (1 pr.) Circlip 1G3709- this c=
omes as a set. Roll pins (2) AEA558. Circlip hold two halves of bush tog=
ether.</div><div><br></div><div>BJ8 lever 22B195-non/OD. Lever AEC3636 w=
/OD. Lever Bush 22B191 (nylon). Roll Pin AEA558 This arrangement starts=
 with: GB 101-118 wo/OD, 101-1441 w/OD</div><div><br></div><div>What wil=
l happen if you use the nylon bush in the MKII GB, is that after a few s=
hifts the nylon will get mangled and there goes your gears.</div><div><b=
r></div><div><b>MKII Brass</b></div><div><b>MKIII Nylon- do not substitu=
te.</b>&nbsp; Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>--=
---------------------------------------</p>From: "Michael Salter via Hea=
leys" <[email-masked]><br>To: "Simon Lachlan"<br>Cc: "Healeys"<b=
r>Sent: Wednesday December 1 2021 5:46:06AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ce=
ntre Change Gear Sticks<br><br>=0A<div>Pretty sure that the only change=
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From: Bob Begani via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 08:58:49 -0500

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Good thing the BJ8 used the nylon bush because it is the only one =
available from Moss etc. because I needed to replace it in my =
transmission. With the new nylon bush a little lithium grease on the big =
ball and tightening the screws I can shift more easily for the first =
time in years.  Not for me, but, for the record does anyone know where =
to by the brass bush with circle clip?

=20

Bob Begani BJ8

=20

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Henry G =
Leach via Healeys
Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 12:37 AM
To: 'Michael Salter' <[email-masked]>
Cc: 'Healeys' <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks

=20

Lets be careful here. We have others who have been stuck in gear or =
without gears. The nylon bush is only used on the BJ8.  The brass bush =
is used on the MK II gearbox, which includes the BJ7. The BJ7 is =
actually a MK II Healey. The shift levers are different as well. Here =
are the numbers from the parts book:

=20

BJ7 lever AEC8636, Bush-brass AEC 3520 (1 pr.) Circlip 1G3709- this =
comes as a set. Roll pins (2) AEA558. Circlip hold two halves of bush =
together.

=20

BJ8 lever 22B195-non/OD. Lever AEC3636 w/OD. Lever Bush 22B191 (nylon). =
Roll Pin AEA558 This arrangement starts with: GB 101-118 wo/OD, 101-1441 =
w/OD

=20

What will happen if you use the nylon bush in the MKII GB, is that after =
a few shifts the nylon will get mangled and there goes your gears.

=20

MKII Brass

MKIII Nylon- do not substitute.  Hank

-----------------------------------------

From: "Michael Salter via Healeys"=20
To: "Simon Lachlan"
Cc: "Healeys"
Sent: Wednesday December 1 2021 5:46:06AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks

Pretty sure that the only change was the size of the ball upon which the =
nylon bush rotates HOWEVER  there is a complication  ... there are nylon =
bushes, from an MGB as I recall, which can be used with the lever with =
the smaller ball end.=20

=20

M

=20

On Wed., Dec. 1, 2021, 8:21 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys, =

Hi,

I have a late Mk II BT7. Centre change. So, my query is regarding the =
gearstick.

The stick has the two roll pins securing it which you=E2=80=99d expect =
up to BJ8s which, I gather, had screws. But the bush under the stick in =
the white nylon one which, I gather again, started with BJ8s. (To be =
fair, I=E2=80=99ve looked into this and didn=E2=80=99t find a definitive =
answer on the bushes). My gearbox seems to be a bit of a BT7/BJ8 =
mixture.

My question is can you put a roll-pin gearstick into a BJ8? Or =
vice-verca?

Thanks,

Simon

=20

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Good thing the =
BJ8 used the nylon bush because it is the only one available from Moss =
etc. because I needed to replace it in my transmission. With the new =
nylon bush a little lithium grease on the big ball and tightening the =
screws I can shift more easily for the first time in years.=C2=A0 Not =
for me, but, for the record does anyone know where to by the brass bush =
with circle clip?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bob Begani =
BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> =
Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Henry =
G Leach via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 3, 2021 12:37 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Michael Salter' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Centre =
Change Gear Sticks<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Lets be =
careful here. We have others who have been stuck in gear or without =
gears. The nylon bush is <b>only used on the BJ8.&nbsp; </b>The brass =
bush is used on the MK II gearbox, which <b>includes the BJ7. </b>The =
BJ7 is actually a MK II Healey. The shift levers are different as well. =
Here are the numbers from the parts book:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>BJ7 lever AEC8636, Bush-brass AEC 3520 (1 pr.) Circlip =
1G3709- this comes as a set. Roll pins (2) AEA558. Circlip hold two =
halves of bush together.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>BJ8 lever 22B195-non/OD. Lever AEC3636 w/OD. Lever =
Bush 22B191 (nylon). Roll Pin AEA558 This arrangement starts with: GB =
101-118 wo/OD, 101-1441 w/OD<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>What will happen if you use the nylon bush in the MKII =
GB, is that after a few shifts the nylon will get mangled and there goes =
your gears.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>MKII Brass</b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b>MKIII Nylon- do not =
substitute.</b>&nbsp; =
Hank<o:p></o:p></p><p>-----------------------------------------<o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>From: =
&quot;Michael Salter via Healeys&quot; <br>To: &quot;Simon =
Lachlan&quot;<br>Cc: &quot;Healeys&quot;<br>Sent: Wednesday December 1 =
2021 5:46:06AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Centre Change Gear =
Sticks<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Pretty sure that the only =
change was the size of the ball upon which the nylon bush rotates =
HOWEVER&nbsp; there is a complication&nbsp; ... there are nylon bushes, =
from an MGB as I recall, which can be used with the lever with the =
smaller ball end. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>M<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed., Dec. 1, 2021, 8:21 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I have a late Mk II BT7. Centre change. So, my query is =
regarding the gearstick.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>The box is a BMC Goldseal replacement per the attached =
picture.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>The stick has the two roll pins securing it which =
you=E2=80=99d expect up to BJ8s which, I gather, had screws. But the =
bush under the stick in the white nylon one which, I gather again, =
started with BJ8s. (To be fair, I=E2=80=99ve looked into this and =
didn=E2=80=99t find a definitive answer on the bushes). My gearbox seems =
to be a bit of a BT7/BJ8 mixture.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>My question is can you put a roll-pin gearstick into a BJ8? =
Or vice-verca?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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Simon-note #6 is key. The number on your gearbox. That is a very late=0A=
GB number in your photo. It appears that at some point your car=0Areceiv=
ed a replacement transmission as noted by the Gold Seal paint.=0AThis ap=
pears to be a BJ8 box. That would be why it has a nylon bush=0Aand it is=
 working properly.=0AIf someone has swapped out the shift towers on the=
 MKII GB to a BJ8=0Astyle, than that also would be an indicator of the n=
ylon bush use. If=0Aits working leave well enough alone is my suggestion=
, and note=0Asomewhere that you have a later GB, or tower, in an earlier=
 car.=0ARegards, Hank=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------F=
rom:=[email-masked]=0ATo: [email-masked]=0ACc:=
 =0ASent: Friday December 3 2021 1:00:08AM=0ASubject: RE: [Healeys] Cent=
re Change Gear Sticks=0A=0A=09Well, this is all very confusing=E2=80=A6.=
. =0A=0A=09You=E2=80=99ll recall that I started this particular hare run=
ning? =0A=0A=091) My car is a MkII BT7. =0A=0A=092) I only removed the s=
tick because I was going to have it rechromed.=0ANo problem with it mech=
anically, only that its appearance was very=0Aworn. =0A=0A=093) The stic=
k has roll pins and no indication that it ever had=0Aanything different.=
 =0A=0A=094) I knew nothing about differing sticks, but reference to sup=
pliers=0Awebsites led me to expect a brass thingie underneath the stick.=
 But, I=0Afound the nylon version. =0A=0A=095) There was no functional r=
eason to replace the stick ie it, with=0Aroll pins and nylon bush, had b=
een in situ during my tenure of 25+/-=0Ayears. And for how long before t=
hat?? When I had first gear and=0Areverse looked at by John Chatham=E2=
=80=99s 25 years ago they may have=0Aremoved the stick, but I expect not=
. =0A=0A=096) The box is a BMC Goldseal which is painted and, on the clu=
tch=0Abell-housing, tagged AEC 3554 which, I gather from my parts book,=
 is a=0AMkII gearbox. However, I haven=E2=80=99t looked at the number on=
 the gearbox=0Acover. =0A=0A=097) When I bought the car, it came with a=
 =E2=80=9Cbox of bits=E2=80=9D. Inside=0Awas a bag, marked BJ8, which co=
ntained a nylon bush. For years I had=0Ano idea what that was!! =0A=0A=
=098) When I ordered a bush for my car as the old one had to be at least=
=0A25 years old, AH Spares sent me the nylon version. This was identical=
=0Ato the one from the =E2=80=9Cbox of bits=E2=80=9D. =0A=0A=09I have to=
 say that I=E2=80=99m flummoxed. =0A=0A=09The Goldseal business may impl=
y that there was a run of boxes coming=0Aout of BMC which were a blend o=
f MkII and III. ie roll pins and nylon=0Abush??? =0A=0A=09When pondering=
 all this, I remind myself that the nylon bush/roll pin=0Asetup worked f=
or at least 25 years, took me all over the place. Even=0Aover the Alps.=
 And is working now. =0A=0A=09If you look at the Ahead4Healeys site, you=
=E2=80=99ll see that they list a=0Anylon alternative, GS 4051, for the s=
ide-shift brass bush, GS4050, and=0Athat nylon _LOOKS_ exactly like the=
 one they list for the centre=0Achange box. They call this =E2=80=9Cfor=
 BJ8=E2=80=9D and make no mention of MkIIs.=0A=0A=0A=09Any ideas? I=E2=
=80=99ll be taking out the tunnel etc when my new carpet kit=0Aarrives b=
ut I hate the idea of battling with that spring again. =0A=0A=09Simon=
 =0A=0A=09FROM: [email-masked] =0ASENT: 03 December 2021 05:37=0ATO=
: 'Michael Salter' =0ACC: 'Simon Lachlan' ; 'Healeys' =0ASUBJECT: Re: [H=
ealeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks   =0A=0A=09Lets be careful here. We ha=
ve others who have been stuck in gear or=0Awithout gears. The nylon bush=
 is ONLY USED ON THE BJ8.  The brass bush=0Ais used on the MK II gearbox=
, which INCLUDES THE BJ7. The BJ7 is=0Aactually a MK II Healey. The shif=
t levers are different as well. Here=0Aare the numbers from the parts bo=
ok:  =0A=0A=09BJ7 lever AEC8636, Bush-brass AEC 3520 (1 pr.) Circlip 1G3=
709- this=0Acomes as a set. Roll pins (2) AEA558. Circlip hold two halve=
s of bush=0Atogether.   =0A=0A=09BJ8 lever 22B195-non/OD. Lever AEC3636=
 w/OD. Lever Bush 22B191=0A(nylon). Roll Pin AEA558 This arrangement sta=
rts with: GB 101-118=0Awo/OD, 101-1441 w/OD   =0A=0A=09What will happen=
 if you use the nylon bush in the MKII GB, is that=0Aafter a few shifts=
 the nylon will get mangled and there goes your=0Agears.   =0A=0A=09MKII=
 BRASS   =0A=0A=09MKIII NYLON- DO NOT SUBSTITUTE. Hank =0A=0A=09--------=
--------------------------------- =0A=0A=09From: "Michael Salter via Hea=
leys"=0A To: "Simon Lachlan"=0A Cc: "Healeys"=0A Sent: Wednesday Decembe=
r 1 2021 5:46:06AM=0A Subject: Re: [Healeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks =
 =0A=0A=09Pretty sure that the only change was the size of the ball upon=
 which=0Athe nylon bush rotates HOWEVER there is a complication ... ther=
e are=0Anylon bushes, from an MGB as I recall, which can be used with th=
e=0Alever with the smaller ball end.  =0A=0A=09M   =0A=0A=09On Wed., Dec=
. 1, 2021, 8:21 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys,  wrote:  =0A  =0A=0A=09H=
i, =0A=0A=09I have a late Mk II BT7. Centre change. So, my query is rega=
rding the=0Agearstick. =0A=0A=09The box is a BMC Goldseal replacement pe=
r the attached picture. =0A=0A=09The stick has the two roll pins securin=
g it which you=E2=80=99d expect up=0Ato BJ8s which, I gather, had screws=
. But the bush under the stick in=0Athe white nylon one which, I gather=
 again, started with BJ8s. (To be=0Afair, I=E2=80=99ve looked into this=
 and didn=E2=80=99t find a definitive answer on=0Athe bushes). My gearbo=
x seems to be a bit of a BT7/BJ8 mixture. =0A=0A=09My question is can yo=
u put a roll-pin gearstick into a BJ8? Or=0Avice-verca? =0A=0A=09Thanks,=
 =0A=0A=09Simon =0A=0A=09 ______________________________________________=
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<html><body>Simon-note #6 is key.&nbsp; The number on your gearbox.&nbsp=
; That is a very late GB number in your photo. It appears that at some p=
oint your car received a replacement transmission as noted by the Gold S=
eal paint. This appears to be a BJ8 box. That would be why it has a nylo=
n bush and it is working properly.<div><br></div><div>If someone has swa=
pped out the shift towers on the MKII GB to a BJ8 style, than that also=
 would be an indicator of the nylon bush use. If its working leave well=
 enough alone is my suggestion, and note somewhere that you have a later=
 GB, or tower, in an earlier car. Regards, Hank<br><br><div class=3D"rep=
ly-new-signature"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>=
From: [email-masked]<br>To: [email-masked]<br>Cc=
: <br>Sent: Friday December 3 2021 1:00:08AM<br>Subject: RE: [Healeys] C=
entre Change Gear Sticks<br><br>=0A<div class=3D"WordSection1">=0A<p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Well,=0Athis is all very confusing=E2=80=A6..</sp=
an></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>You=E2=80=99ll recall that I star=
ted this=0Aparticular hare running?</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span>1) My=0Acar is a MkII BT7.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an>2) I=0Aonly removed the stick because I was going to have it rechrome=
d. No=0Aproblem with it mechanically, only that its appearance was very=
=0Aworn.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>3)=0AThe stick has ro=
ll pins and no indication that it ever had anything=0Adifferent.</span><=
/p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>4) I=0Aknew nothing about differing s=
ticks, but reference to suppliers=0Awebsites led me to expect a brass th=
ingie underneath the stick.=0ABut, I found the nylon version.</span></p>=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>5)=0AThere was no functional reason to r=
eplace the stick ie it, with=0Aroll pins and nylon bush, had been in sit=
u during my tenure of=0A25+/- years. And for how long before that?? When=
 I had first gear=0Aand reverse looked at by John Chatham=E2=80=99s 25 y=
ears ago they may have=0Aremoved the stick, but I expect not.</span></p>=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>6)=0AThe box is a BMC Goldseal which is=
 painted and, on the clutch=0Abell-housing, &nbsp;tagged AEC 3554 which,=
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=80=99t looked at the number on=0Athe gearbox cover.</span></p>=0A<p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span>7)=0AWhen I bought the car, it came with a =E2=80=
=9Cbox of bits=E2=80=9D. Inside was a=0Abag, marked BJ8, which contained=
 a nylon bush. For years I had no=0Aidea what that was!!</span></p>=0A<p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>8)=0AWhen I ordered a bush for my car as the=
 old one had to be at least=0A25 years old, AH Spares sent me the nylon=
 version. This was=0Aidentical to the one from the =E2=80=9Cbox of bits=
=E2=80=9D.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I=0Ahave to say tha=
t I=E2=80=99m flummoxed.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>The=
=0AGoldseal business may imply that there was a run of boxes coming=0Aou=
t of BMC which were a blend of MkII and III. ie roll pins and=0Anylon bu=
sh???</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>When=0Apondering all thi=
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d is working now.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>If=0Ayou loo=
k at the Ahead4Healeys site, you=E2=80=99ll see that they list a=0Anylon=
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re change box. They call this =E2=80=9Cfor BJ8=E2=80=9D and make no=0Ame=
ntion of MkIIs.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Any=0Aideas? I=
=E2=80=99ll be taking out the tunnel etc when my new carpet kit=0Aarrive=
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=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal=
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p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<div>=0A<div style=
=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;">=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"en-us">From:</span></b>=0A<sp=
an lang=3D"en-us">[email-masked]=0A&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><=
b>Sent:</b> 03 December 2021 05:37<br><b>To:</b> 'Michael Salter' &lt;mi=
[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Simon Lachlan'=0A&lt;simon.lach=
[email-masked]&gt;; 'Healeys'=0A&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<=
br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks</span></p>=0A=
</div>=0A</div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">Lets be careful here. We have others who have=0Abeen stuck in gear=
 or without gears. The nylon bush is <b>only used=0Aon the BJ8.&nbsp;</b=
> The brass bush is used on the MK II gearbox,=0Awhich <b>includes the B=
J7.</b> The BJ7 is actually a MK II Healey.=0AThe shift levers are diffe=
rent as well. Here are the numbers from=0Athe parts book:</p>=0A<div>=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">BJ7 lever AEC8636, Bush-brass AEC 3520 (1 pr.)=0ACirclip 1G3709- thi=
s comes as a set. Roll pins (2) AEA558. Circlip=0Ahold two halves of bus=
h together.</p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<=
/div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">BJ8 lever 22B195-non/OD. Lever AE=
C3636 w/OD.=0ALever Bush 22B191 (nylon). Roll Pin AEA558 This arrangemen=
t starts=0Awith: GB 101-118 wo/OD, 101-1441 w/OD</p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">What will happen if you use the nylon bush in=0Athe MKII GB, is that=
 after a few shifts the nylon will get mangled=0Aand there goes your gea=
rs.</p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A</div>=0A=
<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>MKII Brass</b></p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;"><b>MKIII Nylon-=0Ad=
o not substitute.</b>&nbsp; Hank</p>=0A<p>------------------------------=
-----------</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;">F=
rom: "Michael=0ASalter via Healeys"<br>=0ATo: "Simon Lachlan"<br>=0ACc:=
 "Healeys"<br>=0ASent: Wednesday December 1 2021 5:46:06AM<br>=0ASubject=
: Re: [Healeys] Centre Change Gear Sticks</p>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">Pretty sure that the only change was the size=0Aof the ball upon=
 which the nylon bush rotates HOWEVER&nbsp; there=0Ais a complication&nb=
sp; ... there are nylon bushes, from an MGB as=0AI recall, which can be=
 used with the lever with the smaller ball=0Aend.</p>=0A<div>=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">M</p=
>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<div>=0A<div>=
=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed., Dec. 1, 2021, 8:21 a.m. Simon Lachlan=
=0Avia Healeys, &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;=0Awrote:</p>=0A</d=
iv>=0A<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1pt;pad=
ding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;">=0A<div>=0A<di=
v>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a la=
te=0AMk II BT7. Centre change. So, my query is regarding the=0Agearstick=
.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The box is a=0ABMC Goldseal replacement p=
er the attached picture.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The stick has=0Ath=
e two roll pins securing it which you=E2=80=99d expect up to BJ8s which,=
=0AI gather, had screws. But the bush under the stick in the white=0Anyl=
on one which, I gather again, started with BJ8s. (To be fair,=0AI=E2=80=
=99ve looked into this and didn=E2=80=99t find a definitive answer on th=
e=0Abushes). My gearbox seems to be a bit of a BT7/BJ8 mixture.</p>=0A<p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">My question is=0Acan you put a roll-pin gearstick i=
nto a BJ8? Or vice-verca?</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>=0A<p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A</d=
iv>=0A</div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;">=0A_=
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