Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 14, Issue 283

From: george mcharris via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 18:19:18 +0000

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BN2 disk brake conversion

I had a shop do it using the Dennis Welch kit...You need to replace the rea=
r wheel cylinders with those of 3/4" bore. Also might want to install the d=
ust covers usually not included with the kits. May need to do some "plumbin=
g" mods..ie hoses etc ?  Have not seen my job yet.

George McHarris

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Today's Topics:

   1. Disc Brake Conversion BN2 (Brian Drab)
   2. Re: rear axle nut (Mark Fawcett)
   3. BN2 armacord floor snap (S and T Miller)
   4. Re: Rear axel nut socket size (Harold Manifold)
   5. Vendor Info - Pal-Tech Carb Service ([email-masked])
   6. Re: 100 lifters (Bob Spidell)
   7. Re: 100 lifters (i erbs)
   8. Re: 100 lifters (Steven Kingsbury)
   9. Re: 100 lifters (i erbs)
  10. Valvoline VR-1 (Tom)
  11. Re: 100 lifters ([email-masked])

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 19:14:47 +0000
From: Brian Drab <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] Disc Brake Conversion BN2
Message-ID:
        <[email-masked].=
PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I am assisting a friend and am doing a brake job on his BN2. He wants me to=
 consider doing a front disc brake conversion on the car - which I have nev=
er done. I've looked at the usual suppliers for kits i.e. Moss, Dennis Welc=
h, AH Spares and others. There seems to be quite a difference in pricing fo=
r essentially the same thing.
Does anyone have any in formation or hints on this conversion and where to =
get a good quality and inclusive kit. I'd rather get all the parts in one p=
ackage rather than order bit by bit.
Any hints or pitfalls with the actual install?  One concern I have is the M=
aster Cylinder. The car has had a recent master cylinder replacement, so co=
ndition is not a question. Will the original master cylinder provide the ne=
cessary force to properly operate the discs, and is a booster necessary or =
suggested?
Thanks in advance.
Brian Drab , Vancouver, BC
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 14:49:56 -0700
From: Mark Fawcett <[email-masked]>
To: healeymanjim <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] rear axle nut
Message-ID:
        <CAMoKZw91gT6Cy=[email-masked]=
om>

Actually a 2 3/16" 12 point socket fit the rear axle 8 sided nut on my 1959
BT7. It's a bit tight but works. I later made a wrench similar to the one
Moss sells, but I never had the need to use it.

Mark Fawcett

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 10:07 AM healeymanjim via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> i was unable to use any sockets due to the nut having eight sides.
> finally bought the tool from moss that fits.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 22:32:04 +0000
From: S and T Miller <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] BN2 armacord floor snap
Message-ID:
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.outlook.com>

I have only found one snap/hole in the original floor holding the armacord =
floor piece that goes under the seat. It is in the middle "tooth" section t=
oward the inner side. I'm fairly certain that this was the original fasteni=
ng practice, but wanted to check with the experts.
TY, Shawn

The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 17:06:55 -0700
From: Harold Manifold <[email-masked]>
To: Tom <[email-masked]>, Healey Mail List
        <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear axel nut socket size

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 02:00:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: [email-masked]
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Healeys] Vendor Info - Pal-Tech Carb Service

Is this outfit in operation? Tried several times to contactwith no response=
. Followed website instructions regardsphone calls for 'Contact'. His 'pref=
erred'?first contact pointis a text but I don't text. Could that be it?
http://paltech1.com/

Thanks, best to all,
Charley
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 20:44:09 -0700
From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters

I was going to suggest a 'gun-drilled' cam from DWM, but it appears they
don't make them for the 4-cyl cars. Putting extra oil on the wear
surfaces has to be a good thing.

On 8/5/2021 5:39 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
> The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tappets which had
> initially been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.
> After adjusting they were still audible and had previously been silent.
> Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was "fir" in the
> drain plug magnet.
> I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very low mileage "M" cam and
> a set of NOS lifters that I had been saving for decades.
> I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters manufactured
> but at over $1000 a set its a serious investment.
>
> M
>
> On Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury,
> <[email-masked]
>
>     I just rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my lifters from AH
>     Spares in the UK. These were their new design for better oil flow.
>     I now have 1000 miles or so on the new engine and once I got my
>     problems figured out with my distributor, the car is running well
>     and smooth.
>     ???Now I'm wondering when the other shoe is going to drop! What
>     problems did you have pointing you to the lifters as the source of
>     those problems? When I retorqued the head, I readjusted the
>     rockers and found no problems. They were a little off, but I
>     expected a little.
>     ???What should I be looking for? I used Driven Break In oil and
>     then I switched to VR1 like you after 500 miles. I have been
>     driving the car to build up some trust in it and it's turning in
>     to a joy to drive. I've got M mods on this engine, cam, H6 carbs,
>     M pistons and these new lifters. So far, so good.
>     ???Thanks for your help,
>     Steven Kingsbury
>     BN1
>
>     On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys
>
>>     After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lifters that I installed in my
>>     engine with a very low mileage "M" cam have started to deteriorate.
>>     This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 non synthetic and it has
>>     had 4 changes in 6K miles.
>>     Very disappointing.
>>     I'm? considering trying bucket type Buick lifters with longer
>>     push rods and a new cam.
>>     Does anyone have experience with the durability of the old Buick
>>     lifters ... getting a little desperate here.
>>     Fortunately I caught this issue before it ruined the engine.
>>
>>     M
>>

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 21:20:59 -0700
From: i erbs <[email-masked]>
To: Steven Kingsbury <[email-masked]>
Cc: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>, Ahealey help
        <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters
Message-ID:
        <[email-masked]=

Typically it's brass not ferrous. So no metal at all in the filter?

Ira Erbs
1959 AH 100-6
1967 MGB
Milwaukie, OR

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 9:09 PM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback. My tappets have never been silent. They have
> always made noise and though not as loud as my '68 MGB/GT that I had,
> they're not quiet. And after having adjusted them when I retorqued the he=
ad
> at 500 mile mark, they still weren't silent. They sound like my old BN1
> did. And because I have louvered bonnet on this car, they seem even a bit
> louder, but with the bonnet up and running in the garage, they sound almo=
st
> exactly like my old car. Now when I'm out driving they seem pretty silent
> and the engine runs very smooth.
>    As for "fir" in the oil. When I drained my engine at the 500 mile mark=
,
> I ran all of the oil through a fine, paint filter and then used a magnet =
in
> the filter. Nothing appeared on the magnet. I also took the magnet and ra=
n
> it through the oil before I poured it through the filter, and again
> nothing. I even ran the magnet through the empty drain pan after
> transferring the oil, and again, nothing.
>    Sorry to hear about your troubles and thank you for the tips on what t=
o
> listen for and what to look for. Good luck with whatever you decide to do=
.
> And just to be clear, these lifters you used are not the new "new" ones
> available through AH Spares. Rather they are New Old Stock ones that have
> been in you possession for quite a while now, right?
>    Again, good luck and hopefully the cam isn't completely destroyed and
> you caught it in time.
> Thanks!
> Steven
>
> On August 5, 2021 at 5:39 AM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tappets which had
> initially been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.
> After adjusting they were still audible and had previously been silent.
> Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was "fir" in the drain
> plug magnet.
> I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very low mileage "M" cam and a
> set of NOS lifters that I had been saving for decades.
> I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters manufactured but
> at over $1000 a set its a serious investment.
>
> M
>
> On Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury, <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>> I just rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my lifters from AH Spares in
>> the UK. These were their new design for better oil flow. I now have 1000
>> miles or so on the new engine and once I got my problems figured out wit=
h
>> my distributor, the car is running well and smooth.
>>    Now I'm wondering when the other shoe is going to drop! What problems
>> did you have pointing you to the lifters as the source of those problems=
?
>> When I retorqued the head, I readjusted the rockers and found no problem=
s.
>> They were a little off, but I expected a little.
>>    What should I be looking for? I used Driven Break In oil and then I
>> switched to VR1 like you after 500 miles. I have been driving the car to
>> build up some trust in it and it's turning in to a joy to drive. I've go=
t M
>> mods on this engine, cam, H6 carbs, M pistons and these new lifters. So
>> far, so good.
>>    Thanks for your help,
>> Steven Kingsbury
>> BN1
>>
>> On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys <
>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>> After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lifters that I installed in my engine
>> with a very low mileage "M" cam have started to deteriorate.
>> This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 non synthetic and it has had 4
>> changes in 6K miles.
>> Very disappointing.
>> I'm  considering trying bucket type Buick lifters with longer push rods
>> and a new cam.
>> Does anyone have experience with the durability of the old Buick lifters
>> ... getting a little desperate here.
>> Fortunately I caught this issue before it ruined the engine.
>>
>> M
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2021 05:34:12 -0000
From: Steven Kingsbury <[email-masked]>
To: i erbs <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters

Nope. No metal. And why would there be brass??

On August 5, 2021 at 9:21 PM, i erbs <[email-masked]> wrote:

Typically it's brass not ferrous. So no metal at all in the filter?

Ira Erbs
1959 AH 100-6
1967 MGB
Milwaukie, OR

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 9:09 PM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <[email-masked]=
am.net> wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. My tappets have never been silent. They have alway=
s made noise and though not as loud as my '68 MGB/GT that I had, they're no=
t quiet. And after having adjusted them when I retorqued the head at 500 mi=
le mark, they still weren't silent. They sound like my old BN1 did. And bec=
ause I have louvered bonnet on this car, they seem even a bit louder, but w=
ith the bonnet up and running in the garage, they sound almost exactly like=
 my old car. Now when I'm out driving they seem pretty silent and the engin=
e runs very smooth.
???As for "fir" in the oil. When I drained my engine at the 500 mile mark, =
I ran all of the oil through a fine, paint filter and then used a magnet in=
 the filter. Nothing appeared on the magnet. I also took the magnet and ran=
 it through the oil before I poured it through the filter, and again nothin=
g. I even ran the magnet through the empty drain pan after transferring the=
 oil, and again, nothing.
???Sorry to hear about your troubles and thank you for the tips on what to =
listen for and what to look for. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. =
And just to be clear, these lifters you used are not the new "new" ones ava=
ilable through AH Spares. Rather they are New Old Stock ones that have been=
 in you possession for quite a while now, right??
???Again, good luck and hopefully the cam isn't completely destroyed and yo=
u caught it in time.?
Thanks!
Steven

On August 5, 2021 at 5:39 AM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:

The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tappets which had initi=
ally been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.
After adjusting they were still audible and had previously been silent.
Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was "fir" in the drain plu=
g magnet.
I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very low mileage "M" cam and a se=
t of NOS lifters that I had been saving for decades.
I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters manufactured but a=
t over $1000 a set its a serious investment.

M

On Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury, <airtightproductions@ic=
loud.com> wrote:

I just rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my lifters from AH Spares in the=
 UK. These were their new design for better oil flow. I now have 1000 miles=
 or so on the new engine and once I got my problems figured out with my dis=
tributor, the car is running well and smooth.
???Now I'm wondering when the other shoe is going to drop! What problems di=
d you have pointing you to the lifters as the source of those problems? Whe=
n I retorqued the head, I readjusted the rockers and found no problems. The=
y were a little off, but I expected a little.
???What should I be looking for? I used Driven Break In oil and then I swit=
ched to VR1 like you after 500 miles. I have been driving the car to build =
up some trust in it and it's turning in to a joy to drive. I've got M mods =
on this engine, cam, H6 carbs, M pistons and these new lifters. So far, so =
good.?
???Thanks for your help,
Steven Kingsbury
BN1

On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:

After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lifters that I installed in my engine wit=
h a very low mileage "M" cam have started to deteriorate.?
This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 non synthetic and it has had 4 cha=
nges in 6K miles.?
Very disappointing.?
I'm? considering trying bucket type Buick lifters with longer push rods and=
 a new cam.
Does anyone have experience with the durability of the old Buick lifters ..=
. getting a little desperate here.
Fortunately I caught this issue before it ruined the engine.

M
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 22:37:39 -0700
From: i erbs <[email-masked]>
To: Steven Kingsbury <[email-masked]>
Cc: Ahealey help <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters
Message-ID:
        <[email-masked]=

Rod and crank bearings...

Ira Erbs
1959 AH 100-6
1967 MGB
Milwaukie, OR

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 10:34 PM Steven Kingsbury <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Nope. No metal. And why would there be brass?
>
> On August 5, 2021 at 9:21 PM, i erbs <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Typically it's brass not ferrous. So no metal at all in the filter?
>
> Ira Erbs
> 1959 AH 100-6
> 1967 MGB
> Milwaukie, OR
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 9:09 PM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the feedback. My tappets have never been silent. They have
>> always made noise and though not as loud as my '68 MGB/GT that I had,
>> they're not quiet. And after having adjusted them when I retorqued the h=
ead
>> at 500 mile mark, they still weren't silent. They sound like my old BN1
>> did. And because I have louvered bonnet on this car, they seem even a bi=
t
>> louder, but with the bonnet up and running in the garage, they sound alm=
ost
>> exactly like my old car. Now when I'm out driving they seem pretty silen=
t
>> and the engine runs very smooth.
>>    As for "fir" in the oil. When I drained my engine at the 500 mile
>> mark, I ran all of the oil through a fine, paint filter and then used a
>> magnet in the filter. Nothing appeared on the magnet. I also took the
>> magnet and ran it through the oil before I poured it through the filter,
>> and again nothing. I even ran the magnet through the empty drain pan aft=
er
>> transferring the oil, and again, nothing.
>>    Sorry to hear about your troubles and thank you for the tips on what
>> to listen for and what to look for. Good luck with whatever you decide t=
o
>> do. And just to be clear, these lifters you used are not the new "new" o=
nes
>> available through AH Spares. Rather they are New Old Stock ones that hav=
e
>> been in you possession for quite a while now, right?
>>    Again, good luck and hopefully the cam isn't completely destroyed and
>> you caught it in time.
>> Thanks!
>> Steven
>>
>> On August 5, 2021 at 5:39 AM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tappets which had
>> initially been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.
>> After adjusting they were still audible and had previously been silent.
>> Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was "fir" in the drain
>> plug magnet.
>> I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very low mileage "M" cam and a
>> set of NOS lifters that I had been saving for decades.
>> I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters manufactured bu=
t
>> at over $1000 a set its a serious investment.
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury, <
>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>> I just rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my lifters from AH Spares in
>>> the UK. These were their new design for better oil flow. I now have 100=
0
>>> miles or so on the new engine and once I got my problems figured out wi=
th
>>> my distributor, the car is running well and smooth.
>>>    Now I'm wondering when the other shoe is going to drop! What problem=
s
>>> did you have pointing you to the lifters as the source of those problem=
s?
>>> When I retorqued the head, I readjusted the rockers and found no proble=
ms.
>>> They were a little off, but I expected a little.
>>>    What should I be looking for? I used Driven Break In oil and then I
>>> switched to VR1 like you after 500 miles. I have been driving the car t=
o
>>> build up some trust in it and it's turning in to a joy to drive. I've g=
ot M
>>> mods on this engine, cam, H6 carbs, M pistons and these new lifters. So
>>> far, so good.
>>>    Thanks for your help,
>>> Steven Kingsbury
>>> BN1
>>>
>>> On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys <
>>> [email-masked]> wrote:
>>>
>>> After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lifters that I installed in my engine
>>> with a very low mileage "M" cam have started to deteriorate.
>>> This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 non synthetic and it has had 4
>>> changes in 6K miles.
>>> Very disappointing.
>>> I'm  considering trying bucket type Buick lifters with longer push rods
>>> and a new cam.
>>> Does anyone have experience with the durability of the old Buick lifter=
s
>>> ... getting a little desperate here.
>>> Fortunately I caught this issue before it ruined the engine.
>>>
>>> M
>>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 08:52:30 -0400
From: Tom <[email-masked]>
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Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2021 17:29:04 +0000
From: [email-masked]
To: "'Steven Kingsbury'" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "'Michael Salter'" <[email-masked]>,
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters

I like the "clackity" sound of my 100...I keep the lifters "loose" so
as not to burn a valve seat or push rod, and I did add zinc upon
rebuild and also poured it down the PR holes onto the cam prior to
startup. My 100 is just 10 cars from Steven's old #598 and that was
one original car. These cars will never sound as quite as the 6-cyls.
A good source for cam repair is Delta Cams, in Washington state. They
will weld up and regrind any damage. Great work and reasonable. Hank
#588

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To: "Michael Salter"
Cc: "[email-masked]"
Sent: Thursday August 5 2021 9:09:39PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters

 Thanks for the feedback. My tappets have never been silent. They have
always made noise and though not as loud as my '68 MGB/GT that I had,
they're not quiet. And after having adjusted them when I retorqued the
head at 500 mile mark, they still weren't silent. They sound like my
old BN1 did. And because I have louvered bonnet on this car, they seem
even a bit louder, but with the bonnet up and running in the garage,
they sound almost exactly like my old car. Now when I'm out driving
they seem pretty silent and the engine runs very smooth.  As for "fir"
in the oil. When I drained my engine at the 500 mile mark, I ran all
of the oil through a fine, paint filter and then used a magnet in the
filter. Nothing appeared on the magnet. I also took the magnet and ran
it through the oil before I poured it through the filter, and again
nothing. I even ran the magnet through the empty drain pan after
transferring the oil, and again, nothing.  Sorry to hear about your
troubles and thank you for the tips on what to listen for and what to
look for. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. And just to be
clear, these lifters you used are not the new "new" ones available
through AH Spares. Rather they are New Old Stock ones that have been
in you possession for quite a while now, right?   Again, good luck and
hopefully the cam isn't completely destroyed and you caught it in
time.  Thanks! Steven
 On August 5, 2021 at 5:39 AM, Michael Salter  wrote:

    The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tappets which
had initially been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.
After adjusting they were still audible and had previously been
silent. Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was "fir" in
the drain plug magnet. I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very
low mileage "M" cam and a set of NOS lifters that I had been saving
for decades. I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters
manufactured but at over $1000 a set its a serious investment.
 M
 On Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury,  wrote:
   I just rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my lifters from AH
Spares in the UK. These were their new design for better oil flow. I
now have 1000 miles or so on the new engine and once I got my problems
figured out with my distributor, the car is running well and smooth.
Now I'm wondering when the other shoe is going to drop! What problems
did you have pointing you to the lifters as the source of those
problems? When I retorqued the head, I readjusted the rockers and
found no problems. They were a little off, but I expected a little.
What should I be looking for? I used Driven Break In oil and then I
switched to VR1 like you after 500 miles. I have been driving the car
to build up some trust in it and it's turning in to a joy to drive.
I've got M mods on this engine, cam, H6 carbs, M pistons and these new
lifters. So far, so good.   Thanks for your help, Steven Kingsbury BN1

 On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys  wrote:

    After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lifters that I installed in my
engine with a very low mileage "M" cam have started to deteriorate.
This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 non synthetic and it has had
4 changes in 6K miles.  Very disappointing.  I'm considering trying
bucket type Buick lifters with longer push rods and a new cam. Does
anyone have experience with the durability of the old Buick lifters
... getting a little desperate here. Fortunately I caught this issue
before it ruined the engine.
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&nbsp;&nbsp; 6. Re: 100 lifters (Bob Spidell)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 19:14:47 +0000<br>
From: Brian Drab &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: &quot;[email-masked]&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Disc Brake Conversion BN2<br>
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I am assisting a friend and am doing a brake job on his BN2. He wants me to=
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er done. I've looked at the usual suppliers for kits i.e. Moss, Dennis Welc=
h, AH Spares and others. There seems
 to be quite a difference in pricing for essentially the same thing.<br>
Does anyone have any in formation or hints on this conversion and where to =
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 14:49:56 -0700<br>
From: Mark Fawcett &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: healeymanjim &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] rear axle nut<br>
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Actually a 2 3/16&quot; 12 point socket fit the rear axle 8 sided nut on my=
 1959<br>
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Moss sells, but I never had the need to use it.<br>
<br>
Mark Fawcett<br>
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On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 10:07 AM healeymanjim via Healeys &lt;<br>
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&gt; i was unable to use any sockets due to the nut having eight sides.<br>
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 22:32:04 +0000<br>
From: S and T Miller &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: &quot;[email-masked]&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: [Healeys] BN2 armacord floor snap<br>
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I have only found one snap/hole in the original floor holding the armacord =
floor piece that goes under the seat. It is in the middle &quot;tooth&quot;=
 section toward the inner side. I'm fairly certain that this was the origin=
al fastening practice, but wanted to check
 with the experts.<br>
TY, Shawn<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 17:06:55 -0700<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 02:00:12 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: [email-masked]<br>
To: &quot;[email-masked]&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Vendor Info - Pal-Tech Carb Service<br>
<br>
Is this outfit in operation? Tried several times to contactwith no response=
. Followed website instructions regardsphone calls for 'Contact'. His 'pref=
erred'?first contact pointis a text but I don't text. Could that be it?<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 20:44:09 -0700<br>
From: Bob Spidell &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters<br>
d&quot;<br>
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I was going to suggest a 'gun-drilled' cam from DWM, but it appears they <b=
r>
don't make them for the 4-cyl cars. Putting extra oil on the wear <br>
surfaces has to be a good thing.<br>
<br>
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On 8/5/2021 5:39 AM, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
&gt; The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tappets which had =
<br>
&gt; initially been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.<br>
&gt; After adjusting they were still audible and had previously been silent=
.<br>
&gt; Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was &quot;fir&quot; i=
n the <br>
&gt; drain plug magnet.<br>
&gt; I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very low mileage &quot;M&quo=
t; cam and <br>
&gt; a set of NOS lifters that I had been saving for decades.<br>
&gt; I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters manufactured =
<br>
&gt; but at over $1000 a set its a serious investment.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; M<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury, <br>
&gt; &lt;[email-masked] <br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:airtightp=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I just rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my =
lifters from AH<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Spares in the UK. These were their new design =
for better oil flow.<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I now have 1000 miles or so on the new engine =
and once I got my<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; problems figured out with my distributor, the =
car is running well<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and smooth.<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ???Now I'm wondering when the other shoe is go=
ing to drop! What<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; problems did you have pointing you to the lift=
ers as the source of<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; those problems? When I retorqued the head, I r=
eadjusted the<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; rockers and found no problems. They were a lit=
tle off, but I<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; expected a little.<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ???What should I be looking for? I used Driven=
 Break In oil and<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; then I switched to VR1 like you after 500 mile=
s. I have been<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; driving the car to build up some trust in it a=
nd it's turning in<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; to a joy to drive. I've got M mods on this eng=
ine, cam, H6 carbs,<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; M pistons and these new lifters. So far, so go=
od.<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ???Thanks for your help,<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Steven Kingsbury<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; BN1<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter v=
ia Healeys<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;[email-masked] &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lifters =
that I installed in my<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; engine with a very low mileage &quot;M&quo=
t; cam have started to deteriorate.<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 n=
on synthetic and it has<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; had 4 changes in 6K miles.<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Very disappointing.<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm? considering trying bucket type Buick =
lifters with longer<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; push rods and a new cam.<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Does anyone have experience with the durab=
ility of the old Buick<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; lifters ... getting a little desperate her=
e.<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fortunately I caught this issue before it =
ruined the engine.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; M<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 21:20:59 -0700<br>
From: i erbs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Steven Kingsbury &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: Michael Salter &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, Ahealey help<br>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters<br>
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<br>
Typically it's brass not ferrous. So no metal at all in the filter?<br>
<br>
Ira Erbs<br>
1959 AH 100-6<br>
1967 MGB<br>
Milwaukie, OR<br>
<br>
On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 9:09 PM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys &lt;<br>
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Thanks for the feedback. My tappets have never been silent. They have<=
br>
&gt; always made noise and though not as loud as my '68 MGB/GT that I had,<=
br>
&gt; they're not quiet. And after having adjusted them when I retorqued the=
 head<br>
&gt; at 500 mile mark, they still weren't silent. They sound like my old BN=
1<br>
&gt; did. And because I have louvered bonnet on this car, they seem even a =
bit<br>
&gt; louder, but with the bonnet up and running in the garage, they sound a=
lmost<br>
&gt; exactly like my old car. Now when I'm out driving they seem pretty sil=
ent<br>
&gt; and the engine runs very smooth.<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As for &quot;fir&quot; in the oil. When I drained my=
 engine at the 500 mile mark,<br>
&gt; I ran all of the oil through a fine, paint filter and then used a magn=
et in<br>
&gt; the filter. Nothing appeared on the magnet. I also took the magnet and=
 ran<br>
&gt; it through the oil before I poured it through the filter, and again<br=
&gt; nothing. I even ran the magnet through the empty drain pan after<br>
&gt; transferring the oil, and again, nothing.<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sorry to hear about your troubles and thank you for =
the tips on what to<br>
&gt; listen for and what to look for. Good luck with whatever you decide to=
 do.<br>
&gt; And just to be clear, these lifters you used are not the new &quot;new=
&quot; ones<br>
&gt; available through AH Spares. Rather they are New Old Stock ones that h=
ave<br>
&gt; been in you possession for quite a while now, right?<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Again, good luck and hopefully the cam isn't complet=
ely destroyed and<br>
&gt; you caught it in time.<br>
&gt; Thanks!<br>
&gt; Steven<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On August 5, 2021 at 5:39 AM, Michael Salter &lt;[email-masked]=
om&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tappets which had<=
br>
&gt; initially been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.<br>
&gt; After adjusting they were still audible and had previously been silent=
.<br>
&gt; Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was &quot;fir&quot; i=
n the drain<br>
&gt; plug magnet.<br>
&gt; I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very low mileage &quot;M&quo=
t; cam and a<br>
&gt; set of NOS lifters that I had been saving for decades.<br>
&gt; I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters manufactured =
but<br>
&gt; at over $1000 a set its a serious investment.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; M<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury, &lt;<br>
&gt; [email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I just rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my lifters from AH Spar=
es in<br>
&gt;&gt; the UK. These were their new design for better oil flow. I now hav=
e 1000<br>
&gt;&gt; miles or so on the new engine and once I got my problems figured o=
ut with<br>
&gt;&gt; my distributor, the car is running well and smooth.<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Now I'm wondering when the other shoe is going t=
o drop! What problems<br>
&gt;&gt; did you have pointing you to the lifters as the source of those pr=
oblems?<br>
&gt;&gt; When I retorqued the head, I readjusted the rockers and found no p=
roblems.<br>
&gt;&gt; They were a little off, but I expected a little.<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What should I be looking for? I used Driven Brea=
k In oil and then I<br>
&gt;&gt; switched to VR1 like you after 500 miles. I have been driving the =
car to<br>
&gt;&gt; build up some trust in it and it's turning in to a joy to drive. I=
've got M<br>
&gt;&gt; mods on this engine, cam, H6 carbs, M pistons and these new lifter=
s. So<br>
&gt;&gt; far, so good.<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks for your help,<br>
&gt;&gt; Steven Kingsbury<br>
&gt;&gt; BN1<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys &lt;<br>
&gt;&gt; [email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lifters that I installed in my e=
ngine<br>
&gt;&gt; with a very low mileage &quot;M&quot; cam have started to deterior=
ate.<br>
&gt;&gt; This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 non synthetic and it has =
had 4<br>
&gt;&gt; changes in 6K miles.<br>
&gt;&gt; Very disappointing.<br>
&gt;&gt; I'm&nbsp; considering trying bucket type Buick lifters with longer=
 push rods<br>
&gt;&gt; and a new cam.<br>
&gt;&gt; Does anyone have experience with the durability of the old Buick l=
ifters<br>
&gt;&gt; ... getting a little desperate here.<br>
&gt;&gt; Fortunately I caught this issue before it ruined the engine.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; M<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2021 05:34:12 -0000<br>
From: Steven Kingsbury &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: i erbs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: &quot;[email-masked]&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters<br>
d&quot;<br>
<br>
Nope. No metal. And why would there be brass??<br>
<br>
On August 5, 2021 at 9:21 PM, i erbs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
Typically it's brass not ferrous. So no metal at all in the filter?<br>
<br>
<br>
Ira Erbs<br>
1959 AH 100-6<br>
1967 MGB<br>
Milwaukie, OR<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 9:09 PM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox=
.team.net&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
Thanks for the feedback. My tappets have never been silent. They have alway=
s made noise and though not as loud as my '68 MGB/GT that I had, they're no=
t quiet. And after having adjusted them when I retorqued the head at 500 mi=
le mark, they still weren't silent.
 They sound like my old BN1 did. And because I have louvered bonnet on this=
 car, they seem even a bit louder, but with the bonnet up and running in th=
e garage, they sound almost exactly like my old car. Now when I'm out drivi=
ng they seem pretty silent and the
 engine runs very smooth.<br>
???As for &quot;fir&quot; in the oil. When I drained my engine at the 500 m=
ile mark, I ran all of the oil through a fine, paint filter and then used a=
 magnet in the filter. Nothing appeared on the magnet. I also took the magn=
et and ran it through the oil before I poured
 it through the filter, and again nothing. I even ran the magnet through th=
e empty drain pan after transferring the oil, and again, nothing.<br>
???Sorry to hear about your troubles and thank you for the tips on what to =
listen for and what to look for. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. =
And just to be clear, these lifters you used are not the new &quot;new&quot=
; ones available through AH Spares. Rather
 they are New Old Stock ones that have been in you possession for quite a w=
hile now, right??<br>
???Again, good luck and hopefully the cam isn't completely destroyed and yo=
u caught it in time.?<br>
Thanks!<br>
Steven<br>
<br>
On August 5, 2021 at 5:39 AM, Michael Salter &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
; wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tappets which had initi=
ally been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.<br>
After adjusting they were still audible and had previously been silent.<br>
Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was &quot;fir&quot; in the=
 drain plug magnet.<br>
I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very low mileage &quot;M&quot; ca=
m and a set of NOS lifters that I had been saving for decades.<br>
I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters manufactured but a=
t over $1000 a set its a serious investment.<br>
<br>
<br>
M<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury, &lt;airtightproductions=
@icloud.com&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
I just rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my lifters from AH Spares in the=
 UK. These were their new design for better oil flow. I now have 1000 miles=
 or so on the new engine and once I got my problems figured out with my dis=
tributor, the car is running well
 and smooth.<br>
???Now I'm wondering when the other shoe is going to drop! What problems di=
d you have pointing you to the lifters as the source of those problems? Whe=
n I retorqued the head, I readjusted the rockers and found no problems. The=
y were a little off, but I expected
 a little.<br>
???What should I be looking for? I used Driven Break In oil and then I swit=
ched to VR1 like you after 500 miles. I have been driving the car to build =
up some trust in it and it's turning in to a joy to drive. I've got M mods =
on this engine, cam, H6 carbs, M
 pistons and these new lifters. So far, so good.?<br>
???Thanks for your help,<br>
Steven Kingsbury<br>
BN1<br>
<br>
On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.=
team.net&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lifters that I installed in my engine wit=
h a very low mileage &quot;M&quot; cam have started to deteriorate.?<br>
This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 non synthetic and it has had 4 cha=
nges in 6K miles.?<br>
Very disappointing.?<br>
I'm? considering trying bucket type Buick lifters with longer push rods and=
 a new cam.<br>
Does anyone have experience with the durability of the old Buick lifters ..=
. getting a little desperate here.<br>
Fortunately I caught this issue before it ruined the engine.<br>
<br>
<br>
M<br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 22:37:39 -0700<br>
From: i erbs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Steven Kingsbury &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: Ahealey help &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters<br>
Message-ID:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CABXhz88TGFsCfz1_AWFOJX11f6k=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<br>
Rod and crank bearings...<br>
<br>
Ira Erbs<br>
1959 AH 100-6<br>
1967 MGB<br>
Milwaukie, OR<br>
<br>
On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 10:34 PM Steven Kingsbury &lt;<br>
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Nope. No metal. And why would there be brass?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On August 5, 2021 at 9:21 PM, i erbs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote=
:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Typically it's brass not ferrous. So no metal at all in the filter?<br=
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ira Erbs<br>
&gt; 1959 AH 100-6<br>
&gt; 1967 MGB<br>
&gt; Milwaukie, OR<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 9:09 PM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys &lt;<br>
&gt; [email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Thanks for the feedback. My tappets have never been silent. They h=
ave<br>
&gt;&gt; always made noise and though not as loud as my '68 MGB/GT that I h=
ad,<br>
&gt;&gt; they're not quiet. And after having adjusted them when I retorqued=
 the head<br>
&gt;&gt; at 500 mile mark, they still weren't silent. They sound like my ol=
d BN1<br>
&gt;&gt; did. And because I have louvered bonnet on this car, they seem eve=
n a bit<br>
&gt;&gt; louder, but with the bonnet up and running in the garage, they sou=
nd almost<br>
&gt;&gt; exactly like my old car. Now when I'm out driving they seem pretty=
 silent<br>
&gt;&gt; and the engine runs very smooth.<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As for &quot;fir&quot; in the oil. When I draine=
d my engine at the 500 mile<br>
&gt;&gt; mark, I ran all of the oil through a fine, paint filter and then u=
sed a<br>
&gt;&gt; magnet in the filter. Nothing appeared on the magnet. I also took =
the<br>
&gt;&gt; magnet and ran it through the oil before I poured it through the f=
ilter,<br>
&gt;&gt; and again nothing. I even ran the magnet through the empty drain p=
an after<br>
&gt;&gt; transferring the oil, and again, nothing.<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sorry to hear about your troubles and thank you =
for the tips on what<br>
&gt;&gt; to listen for and what to look for. Good luck with whatever you de=
cide to<br>
&gt;&gt; do. And just to be clear, these lifters you used are not the new &=
quot;new&quot; ones<br>
&gt;&gt; available through AH Spares. Rather they are New Old Stock ones th=
at have<br>
&gt;&gt; been in you possession for quite a while now, right?<br>
&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Again, good luck and hopefully the cam isn't com=
pletely destroyed and<br>
&gt;&gt; you caught it in time.<br>
&gt;&gt; Thanks!<br>
&gt;&gt; Steven<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On August 5, 2021 at 5:39 AM, Michael Salter &lt;michaelsalter@gma=
il.com&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tappets which =
had<br>
&gt;&gt; initially been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.<br>
&gt;&gt; After adjusting they were still audible and had previously been si=
lent.<br>
&gt;&gt; Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was &quot;fir&quo=
t; in the drain<br>
&gt;&gt; plug magnet.<br>
&gt;&gt; I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very low mileage &quot;M=
&quot; cam and a<br>
&gt;&gt; set of NOS lifters that I had been saving for decades.<br>
&gt;&gt; I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters manufactu=
red but<br>
&gt;&gt; at over $1000 a set its a serious investment.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; M<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury, &lt;<br>
&gt;&gt; [email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I just rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my lifters from AH =
Spares in<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; the UK. These were their new design for better oil flow. I now=
 have 1000<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; miles or so on the new engine and once I got my problems figur=
ed out with<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; my distributor, the car is running well and smooth.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Now I'm wondering when the other shoe is goi=
ng to drop! What problems<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; did you have pointing you to the lifters as the source of thos=
e problems?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; When I retorqued the head, I readjusted the rockers and found =
no problems.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; They were a little off, but I expected a little.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What should I be looking for? I used Driven =
Break In oil and then I<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; switched to VR1 like you after 500 miles. I have been driving =
the car to<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; build up some trust in it and it's turning in to a joy to driv=
e. I've got M<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; mods on this engine, cam, H6 carbs, M pistons and these new li=
fters. So<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; far, so good.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks for your help,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Steven Kingsbury<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; BN1<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys &lt;<=
br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; [email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lifters that I installed in =
my engine<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; with a very low mileage &quot;M&quot; cam have started to dete=
riorate.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 non synthetic and it =
has had 4<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; changes in 6K miles.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Very disappointing.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I'm&nbsp; considering trying bucket type Buick lifters with lo=
nger push rods<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; and a new cam.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Does anyone have experience with the durability of the old Bui=
ck lifters<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; ... getting a little desperate here.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Fortunately I caught this issue before it ruined the engine.<b=
r>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; M<br>
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From: Tom &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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Subject: [Healeys] Valvoline VR-1<br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2021 17:29:04 +0000<br>
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To: &quot;'Steven Kingsbury'&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<b=
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Cc: &quot;'Michael Salter'&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;,<br>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters<br>
<br>
I like the &quot;clackity&quot; sound of my 100...I keep the lifters &quot;=
loose&quot; so<br>
as not to burn a valve seat or push rod, and I did add zinc upon<br>
rebuild and also poured it down the PR holes onto the cam prior to<br>
startup. My 100 is just 10 cars from Steven's old #598 and that was<br>
one original car. These cars will never sound as quite as the 6-cyls.<br>
A good source for cam repair is Delta Cams, in Washington state. They<br>
will weld up and regrind any damage. Great work and reasonable. Hank<br>
#588<br>
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---------From: &quot;Steven Kingsbury via<br>
Healeys&quot; <br>
To: &quot;Michael Salter&quot;<br>
Cc: &quot;[email-masked]&quot;<br>
Sent: Thursday August 5 2021 9:09:39PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters<br>
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&nbsp;Thanks for the feedback. My tappets have never been silent. They have=
<br>
always made noise and though not as loud as my '68 MGB/GT that I had,<br>
they're not quiet. And after having adjusted them when I retorqued the<br>
head at 500 mile mark, they still weren't silent. They sound like my<br>
old BN1 did. And because I have louvered bonnet on this car, they seem<br>
even a bit louder, but with the bonnet up and running in the garage,<br>
they sound almost exactly like my old car. Now when I'm out driving<br>
they seem pretty silent and the engine runs very smooth.&nbsp; As for &quot=
;fir&quot;<br>
in the oil. When I drained my engine at the 500 mile mark, I ran all<br>
of the oil through a fine, paint filter and then used a magnet in the<br>
filter. Nothing appeared on the magnet. I also took the magnet and ran<br>
it through the oil before I poured it through the filter, and again<br>
nothing. I even ran the magnet through the empty drain pan after<br>
transferring the oil, and again, nothing.&nbsp; Sorry to hear about your<br=
troubles and thank you for the tips on what to listen for and what to<br>
look for. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. And just to be<br>
clear, these lifters you used are not the new &quot;new&quot; ones availabl=
e<br>
through AH Spares. Rather they are New Old Stock ones that have been<br>
in you possession for quite a while now, right?&nbsp;&nbsp; Again, good luc=
k and<br>
hopefully the cam isn't completely destroyed and you caught it in<br>
time.&nbsp; Thanks! Steven <br>
&nbsp;On August 5, 2021 at 5:39 AM, Michael Salter&nbsp; wrote:<br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tapp=
ets which<br>
had initially been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.<br>
After adjusting they were still audible and had previously been<br>
silent. Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was &quot;fir&quot=
; in<br>
the drain plug magnet. I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very<br>
low mileage &quot;M&quot; cam and a set of NOS lifters that I had been savi=
ng<br>
for decades. I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters<br>
manufactured but at over $1000 a set its a serious investment. <br>
&nbsp;M&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;On Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury,&nbsp; wrote:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; I just rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my lifters from AH<=
br>
Spares in the UK. These were their new design for better oil flow. I<br>
now have 1000 miles or so on the new engine and once I got my problems<br>
figured out with my distributor, the car is running well and smooth. <br>
Now I'm wondering when the other shoe is going to drop! What problems<br>
did you have pointing you to the lifters as the source of those<br>
problems? When I retorqued the head, I readjusted the rockers and<br>
found no problems. They were a little off, but I expected a little. <br>
What should I be looking for? I used Driven Break In oil and then I<br>
switched to VR1 like you after 500 miles. I have been driving the car<br>
to build up some trust in it and it's turning in to a joy to drive.<br>
I've got M mods on this engine, cam, H6 carbs, M pistons and these new<br>
lifters. So far, so good.&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks for your help, Steven Kingsbur=
y BN1<br>
<br>
&nbsp;On August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys&nbsp; wrote:=
<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lifters that I install=
ed in my<br>
engine with a very low mileage &quot;M&quot; cam have started to deteriorat=
e.<br>
This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 non synthetic and it has had<br>
4 changes in 6K miles.&nbsp; Very disappointing.&nbsp; I'm considering tryi=
ng<br>
bucket type Buick lifters with longer push rods and a new cam. Does<br>
anyone have experience with the durability of the old Buick lifters<br>
... getting a little desperate here. Fortunately I caught this issue<br>
before it ruined the engine. <br>
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