Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive pump queries

From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 13:41:50 +0100

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Hi,

My overdrive is still driving me mad..

So, I've got it reassembled and have added the oil. About 3.5 litres was all
it required so there must have been a fair bit still inside.

1.	The solenoid is still in its box. Am I right in assuming(!)that one
can switch the OD on manually with the lever on the RHS??

2.	I ran the engine in 3rd for about 2 minutes whilst bringing that
lever up, down, wherever. No pressure. How long does it take for the OD to
produce pressure after the hydraulics have been reassembled? 

3.	With the pump in place and its two retaining screws tightened up,
should one be able to move the pump's piston up and down against the spring
with a rod pushed up through that bottom bolt? (The bolt into which the
filter's bolt screws). Mine wouldn't move at all. But wouldn't that depend
on the position of the cam??

4.	One observation: The piston in the AH Spares accumulator wouldn't
move in/out with pressure from my thumb. The supplier, OD Spares, said that
it takes a lot of pressure and oil to get that piston moving. Any thoughts
on that??

I suspect that I've not managed to line the top of the piston up properly.
Zero pressure.

I had pressure before this saga all started but it dropped drastically once
the engine/gearbox warmed up. Hence the new AH Spares accumulator with
bigger bore and new ball bearings and little springs etcetc. 

I don't believe that I've got anything (else!) wrong so I'm wondering about
the pump....

Simon

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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>My overdrive is =
still driving me mad&#8230;&#8230;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>So, =
I&#8217;ve got it reassembled and have added the oil. About 3.5 litres =
was all it required so there must have been a fair bit still =
inside.<o:p></o:p></p><ol style=3D'margin-top:0cm' start=3D1 =
type=3D1><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>The solenoid is still =
in its box. Am I right in assuming(!)that one can switch the OD on =
manually with the lever on the RHS??<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><ol =
style=3D'margin-top:0cm' start=3D2 type=3D1><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>I ran the engine in =
3<sup>rd</sup> for about 2 minutes whilst bringing that lever up, down, =
wherever. No pressure. How long does it take for the OD to produce =
pressure after the hydraulics have been reassembled? =
<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><ol =
style=3D'margin-top:0cm' start=3D3 type=3D1><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>With the pump in place =
and its two retaining screws tightened up, should one be able to move =
the pump&#8217;s piston up and down against the spring with a rod pushed =
up through that bottom bolt? (The bolt into which the filter&#8217;s =
bolt screws). Mine wouldn&#8217;t move at all. But wouldn&#8217;t that =
depend on the position of the cam??<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><ol =
style=3D'margin-top:0cm' start=3D4 type=3D1><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>One observation: The =
piston in the AH Spares accumulator wouldn&#8217;t move in/out with =
pressure from my thumb. The supplier, OD Spares, said that it takes a =
lot of pressure and oil to get that piston moving. Any thoughts on =
that??<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I suspect =
that I&#8217;ve not managed to line the top of the piston up properly. =
Zero pressure.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I had pressure before =
this saga all started but it dropped drastically once the engine/gearbox =
warmed up. Hence the new AH Spares accumulator with bigger bore and new =
ball bearings and little springs etcetc. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I don&#8217;t believe that I&#8217;ve got anything =
(else!) wrong so I&#8217;m wondering about the =
pump&#8230;&#8230;..<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Simon<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html>
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To your question in 3.
No when you put a rod up through the hole in the center of the pump body
lower flange you will be pressing on the end of the piston which will move
up and down as the overdrive is rotated.
The spring merely holds the piston roller against the cam until pressure is
established.
If the piston does not move up and down with no influence from that "rod"
it is jamming in the body and this must be corrected.

M

On Sun., Aug. 29, 2021, 8:46 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys, <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My overdrive is still driving me mad=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> So, I=E2=80=99ve got it reassembled and have added the oil. About 3.5 lit=
res was
> all it required so there must have been a fair bit still inside.
>
>    1. I ran the engine in 3rd for about 2 minutes whilst bringing that
>    lever up, down, wherever. No pressure. How long does it take for the O=
D to
>    1. With the pump in place and its two retaining screws tightened up,
>    should one be able to move the pump=E2=80=99s piston up and down again=
st the spring
>    with a rod pushed up through that bottom bolt? (The bolt into which th=
e
>    filter=E2=80=99s bolt screws). Mine wouldn=E2=80=99t move at all. But =
wouldn=E2=80=99t that depend
>    1. One observation: The piston in the AH Spares accumulator wouldn=E2=
=80=99t
>    move in/out with pressure from my thumb. The supplier, OD Spares, said=
 that
>    it takes a lot of pressure and oil to get that piston moving. Any thou=
ghts
>    on that??
>
>
>
>
>
> I suspect that I=E2=80=99ve not managed to line the top of the piston up =
properly.
> Zero pressure.
>
> I had pressure before this saga all started but it dropped drastically
> once the engine/gearbox warmed up. Hence the new AH Spares accumulator wi=
th
> I don=E2=80=99t believe that I=E2=80=99ve got anything (else!) wrong so I=
=E2=80=99m wondering
> about the pump=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..
>
>
>
> Simon
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">To your question in 3.<div dir=3D"auto">No when you put a=
 rod up through the hole in the center of the pump body lower flange you wi=
ll be pressing on the end of the piston which will move up and down as the =
overdrive is rotated.</div><div dir=3D"auto">The spring merely holds the pi=
ston roller against the cam until pressure is established.=C2=A0</div><div =
dir=3D"auto">If the piston does not move up and down with no influence from=
 that &quot;rod&quot; it is jamming in the body and this must be corrected.=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun., Aug. 29=
, 2021, 8:46 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><=
div class=3D"m_1156291302294497715WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<=
u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My overdrive is still driving me ma=
d=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So, I=E2=80=99ve got it reassembled and hav=
e added the oil. About 3.5 litres was all it required so there must have be=
en a fair bit still inside.<u></u><u></u></p><ol style=3D"margin-top:0cm" s=
tart=3D"1" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph" s=
tyle=3D"margin-left:0cm">The solenoid is still in its box. Am I right in as=
suming(!)that one can switch the OD on manually with the lever on the RHS??=
<u></u><u></u></li></ol><p class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><ol style=3D"margin-top:0cm" start=3D"2" type=3D"1"=
><li class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0=
cm">I ran the engine in 3<sup>rd</sup> for about 2 minutes whilst bringing =
that lever up, down, wherever. No pressure. How long does it take for the O=
D to produce pressure after the hydraulics have been reassembled? <u></u><u=
></u></li></ol><p class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><ol style=3D"margin-top:0cm" start=3D"3" type=3D"1"><li cl=
ass=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm">Wit=
h the pump in place and its two retaining screws tightened up, should one b=
e able to move the pump=E2=80=99s piston up and down against the spring wit=
h a rod pushed up through that bottom bolt? (The bolt into which the filter=
=E2=80=99s bolt screws). Mine wouldn=E2=80=99t move at all. But wouldn=E2=
=80=99t that depend on the position of the cam??<u></u><u></u></li></ol><p =
class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><ol=
 style=3D"margin-top:0cm" start=3D"4" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_11562913022=
94497715MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm">One observation: The pi=
ston in the AH Spares accumulator wouldn=E2=80=99t move in/out with pressur=
e from my thumb. The supplier, OD Spares, said that it takes a lot of press=
ure and oil to get that piston moving. Any thoughts on that??<u></u><u></u>=
</li></ol><p class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">I suspect that I=E2=80=99ve not managed to line the top of the piston =
up properly. Zero pressure.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I had p=
ressure before this saga all started but it dropped drastically once the en=
gine/gearbox warmed up. Hence the new AH Spares accumulator with bigger bor=
e and new ball bearings and little springs etcetc. <u></u><u></u></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">I don=E2=80=99t believe that I=E2=80=99ve got anything (el=
se!) wrong so I=E2=80=99m wondering about the pump=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..<u></=
u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Simon<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
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Simon- two things...did some of that "Plastic Metal" (JB Weld) that=0Ayo=
u found, get into the plunger/pump body and "weld" it together? It=0A(pl=
unger) must move up and down with the action of the cam on the=0Amainsha=
ft to "pump" oil. (the wheel on the end should also be free to=0Arotate)=
=0ASecondly, the new 1/4" ball you fitted to the pump body opening-did=
=0Ayou smack it to seat with the body hole??...this is very important as=
=0Aif it does not seal perfectly, you will get "0" pressure. =0AYes, you=
 can engage/disengage the OD with the lever, sans the=0Asolenoid. Hank=
=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------From: "Michael Salter"=
 =0ATo: "Simon Lachlan"=0ACc: "Healeys"=0ASent: Sunday August 29 2021 5:=
58:01AM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pump queries=0A=0A To your qu=
estion in 3. No when you put a rod up through the hole in=0Athe center o=
f the pump body lower flange you will be pressing on the=0Aend of the pi=
ston which will move up and down as the overdrive is=0Arotated. The spri=
ng merely holds the piston roller against the cam=0Auntil pressure is es=
tablished.  If the piston does not move up and=0Adown with no influence=
 from that "rod" it is jamming in the body and=0Athis must be corrected.=
 =0A M  =0A On Sun., Aug. 29, 2021, 8:46 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys,=
  wrote:=0A=0A=09Hi, =0A=0A=09My overdrive is still driving me mad=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6 =0A=0A=09So, I=E2=80=99ve got it reassembled and have added=
 the oil. About 3.5=0Alitres was all it required so there must have been=
 a fair bit still=0Ainside. =0A=0A=09* The solenoid is still in its box.=
 Am I right in assuming(!)that one=0Acan switch the OD on manually with=
 the lever on the RHS??=0A=0A=09* I ran the engine in 3rd for about 2 mi=
nutes whilst bringing that=0Alever up, down, wherever. No pressure. How=
 long does it take for the=0AOD to produce pressure after the hydraulics=
 have been reassembled?=0A=0A=09* With the pump in place and its two ret=
aining screws tightened up,=0Ashould one be able to move the pump=E2=80=
=99s piston up and down against the=0Aspring with a rod pushed up throug=
h that bottom bolt? (The bolt into=0Awhich the filter=E2=80=99s bolt scr=
ews). Mine wouldn=E2=80=99t move at all. But=0Awouldn=E2=80=99t that dep=
end on the position of the cam??=0A=0A=09* One observation: The piston i=
n the AH Spares accumulator wouldn=E2=80=99t=0Amove in/out with pressure=
 from my thumb. The supplier, OD Spares, said=0Athat it takes a lot of p=
ressure and oil to get that piston moving. Any=0Athoughts on that??=0A=
=0A=09I suspect that I=E2=80=99ve not managed to line the top of the pis=
ton up=0Aproperly. Zero pressure. =0A=0A=09I had pressure before this sa=
ga all started but it dropped=0Adrastically once the engine/gearbox warm=
ed up. Hence the new AH Spares=0Aaccumulator with bigger bore and new ba=
ll bearings and little springs=0Aetcetc. =0A=0A=09I don=E2=80=99t believ=
e that I=E2=80=99ve got anything (else!) wrong so I=E2=80=99m=0Awonderin=
g about the pump=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.. =0A=0A=09Simon =0A=0A=09    _______=
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<html><body>Simon- two things...did some of that "Plastic Metal" (JB Wel=
d) that you found, get into the plunger/pump body and "weld" it together=
?&nbsp; It (plunger) must move up and down with the action of the cam on=
 the mainshaft to "pump" oil. (the wheel on the end should also be free=
 to rotate)<div><br></div><div>Secondly, the new 1/4" ball you fitted to=
 the pump body opening-did you smack it to seat with the body hole??...t=
his is very important as if it does not seal perfectly, you will get "0"=
 pressure.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, you can engage/disengage=
 the OD with the lever, sans the solenoid. Hank<br><br><div class=3D"rep=
ly-new-signature"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>=
From: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked]><br>To: "Simon Lachlan"<=
br>Cc: "Healeys"<br>Sent: Sunday August 29 2021 5:58:01AM<br>Subject: Re=
: [Healeys] Overdrive pump queries<br><br>=0A<div>To your question in 3.=
=0A<div>No when you put a rod up through the hole in the=0Acenter of the=
 pump body lower flange you will be pressing on the=0Aend of the piston=
 which will move up and down as the overdrive is=0Arotated.</div>=0A<div=
>The spring merely holds the piston roller against=0Athe cam until press=
ure is established.&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>If the piston does not move up an=
d down with no=0Ainfluence from that "rod" it is jamming in the body and=
 this must=0Abe corrected.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>M</div>=0A</di=
v>=0A<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Sun., Aug. 29, 2021, 8:46 a.m.=0ASimon Lachlan via Healeys, &lt;=
<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;=0Awrote:<br></div>=0A<blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex;">=0A<div lang=3D"en-gb">=0A<div class=3D"m_115629130229=
4497715WordSection1">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,</p>=0A<p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">My overdrive is still driving me mad=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6</p>=0A<p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So, I=E2=80=99v=
e got it reassembled and have added the=0Aoil. About 3.5 litres was all=
 it required so there must have been a=0Afair bit still inside.</p>=0A<o=
l style=3D"margin-top:0cm;" start=3D"1" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_115629=
1302294497715MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;">The solenoid i=
s still in its box. Am I right in=0Aassuming(!)that one can switch the O=
D on manually with the lever on=0Athe RHS??</li>=0A</ol><p class=3D"m_11=
56291302294497715MsoListParagraph">&nbsp;</p>=0A<ol style=3D"margin-top:=
0cm;" start=3D"2" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListPa=
ragraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;">I ran the engine in 3<sup>rd</sup> f=
or about 2=0Aminutes whilst bringing that lever up, down, wherever. No p=
ressure.=0AHow long does it take for the OD to produce pressure after th=
e=0Ahydraulics have been reassembled?</li>=0A</ol><p class=3D"m_11562913=
02294497715MsoListParagraph">&nbsp;</p>=0A<ol style=3D"margin-top:0cm;"=
 start=3D"3" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagra=
ph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;">With the pump in place and its two retain=
ing=0Ascrews tightened up, should one be able to move the pump=E2=80=99s=
 piston=0Aup and down against the spring with a rod pushed up through th=
at=0Abottom bolt? (The bolt into which the filter=E2=80=99s bolt screws)=
. Mine=0Awouldn=E2=80=99t move at all. But wouldn=E2=80=99t that depend=
 on the position of=0Athe cam??</li>=0A</ol><p class=3D"m_11562913022944=
97715MsoListParagraph">&nbsp;</p>=0A<ol style=3D"margin-top:0cm;" start=
=3D"4" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph" st=
yle=3D"margin-left:0cm;">One observation: The piston in the AH Spares=0A=
accumulator wouldn=E2=80=99t move in/out with pressure from my thumb. Th=
e=0Asupplier, OD Spares, said that it takes a lot of pressure and oil=0A=
to get that piston moving. Any thoughts on that??</li>=0A</ol><p class=
=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph">&nbsp;</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I suspect that I=E2=80=99ve n=
ot managed to line the=0Atop of the piston up properly. Zero pressure.</=
p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I had pressure before this saga all started=
=0Abut it dropped drastically once the engine/gearbox warmed up. Hence=
=0Athe new AH Spares accumulator with bigger bore and new ball=0Abearing=
s and little springs etcetc.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I don=E2=80=99=
t believe that I=E2=80=99ve got anything (else!)=0Awrong so I=E2=80=99m=
 wondering about the pump=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">&nbsp;</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal=
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Smacking the check ball will not make a new seat in the pump. You must cut a=
 new seat with a special reamer.=20

David Nock

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2021, at 11:36 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFSimon- two things...did some of that "Plastic Metal" (JB Weld) th=
at you found, get into the plunger/pump body and "weld" it together?  It (pl=
unger) must move up and down with the action of the cam on the mainshaft to "=
pump" oil. (the wheel on the end should also be free to rotate)
>=20
> Secondly, the new 1/4" ball you fitted to the pump body opening-did you sm=
ack it to seat with the body hole??...this is very important as if it does n=
ot seal perfectly, you will get "0" pressure.=20
>=20
> Yes, you can engage/disengage the OD with the lever, sans the solenoid. Ha=
nk
>=20
> -----------------------------------------
>=20
> From: "Michael Salter"=20
> To: "Simon Lachlan"
> Cc: "Healeys"
> Sent: Sunday August 29 2021 5:58:01AM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pump queries
>=20
> To your question in 3.
> No when you put a rod up through the hole in the center of the pump body l=
ower flange you will be pressing on the end of the piston which will move up=
 and down as the overdrive is rotated.
> The spring merely holds the piston roller against the cam until pressure i=
s established.=20
> If the piston does not move up and down with no influence from that "rod" i=
t is jamming in the body and this must be corrected.
>=20
> M
>=20
> On Sun., Aug. 29, 2021, 8:46 a.m. Simon Lachlan via Healeys, <healeys@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
res was all it required so there must have been a fair bit still inside.
>>=20
>> The solenoid is still in its box. Am I right in assuming(!)that one can s=
witch the OD on manually with the lever on the RHS??
>> =20
>>=20
>> I ran the engine in 3rd for about 2 minutes whilst bringing that lever up=
, down, wherever. No pressure. How long does it take for the OD to produce p=
ressure after the hydraulics have been reassembled?
>> =20
>>=20
>> With the pump in place and its two retaining screws tightened up, should o=
ne be able to move the pump=E2=80=99s piston up and down against the spring w=
ith a rod pushed up through that bottom bolt? (The bolt into which the filte=
r=E2=80=99s bolt screws). Mine wouldn=E2=80=99t move at all. But wouldn=E2=80=
=99t that depend on the position of the cam??
>> =20
>>=20
>> One observation: The piston in the AH Spares accumulator wouldn=E2=80=99t=
 move in/out with pressure from my thumb. The supplier, OD Spares, said that=
 it takes a lot of pressure and oil to get that piston moving. Any thoughts o=
n that??
>> =20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> I suspect that I=E2=80=99ve not managed to line the top of the piston up p=
roperly. Zero pressure.
>>=20
>> I had pressure before this saga all started but it dropped drastically on=
ce the engine/gearbox warmed up. Hence the new AH Spares accumulator with bi=
gger bore and new ball bearings and little springs etcetc.
>>=20
=E2=80=99m wondering about the pump=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Smacking the check ball will not make a new=
 seat in the pump. You must cut a new seat with a special reamer.&nbsp;<br><=
br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>David Nock</div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone<=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Aug 29, 2021, at 11:3=
6 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br=
></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BFSimo=
n- two things...did some of that "Plastic Metal" (JB Weld) that you found, g=
et into the plunger/pump body and "weld" it together?&nbsp; It (plunger) mus=
t move up and down with the action of the cam on the mainshaft to "pump" oil=
. (the wheel on the end should also be free to rotate)<div><br></div><div>Se=
condly, the new 1/4" ball you fitted to the pump body opening-did you smack i=
t to seat with the body hole??...this is very important as if it does not se=
al perfectly, you will get "0" pressure.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Yes,=
 you can engage/disengage the OD with the lever, sans the solenoid. Hank<br>=
<br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>----------------------------=
-------------</p>From: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked]><br>To: "Si=
mon Lachlan"<br>Cc: "Healeys"<br>Sent: Sunday August 29 2021 5:58:01AM<br>Su=
bject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pump queries<br><br>
<div>To your question in 3.
<div>No when you put a rod up through the hole in the
center of the pump body lower flange you will be pressing on the
end of the piston which will move up and down as the overdrive is
rotated.</div>
<div>The spring merely holds the piston roller against
the cam until pressure is established.&nbsp;</div>
<div>If the piston does not move up and down with no
influence from that "rod" it is jamming in the body and this must
be corrected.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>M</div>
</div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun., Aug. 29, 2021, 8:46 a.m.
Simon Lachlan via Healeys, &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;
wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang=3D"en-gb">
<div class=3D"m_1156291302294497715WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">My overdrive is still driving me mad=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So, I=E2=80=99ve got it reassembled and have added th=
e
oil. About 3.5 litres was all it required so there must have been a
fair bit still inside.</p>
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0cm;" start=3D"1" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_11562913=
02294497715MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;">The solenoid is stil=
l in its box. Am I right in
assuming(!)that one can switch the OD on manually with the lever on
the RHS??</li>
</ol><p class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph">&nbsp;</p>
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0cm;" start=3D"2" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_11562913=
02294497715MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;">I ran the engine in 3=
<sup>rd</sup> for about 2
minutes whilst bringing that lever up, down, wherever. No pressure.
How long does it take for the OD to produce pressure after the
hydraulics have been reassembled?</li>
</ol><p class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph">&nbsp;</p>
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0cm;" start=3D"3" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_11562913=
02294497715MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;">With the pump in pla=
ce and its two retaining
screws tightened up, should one be able to move the pump=E2=80=99s piston
up and down against the spring with a rod pushed up through that
bottom bolt? (The bolt into which the filter=E2=80=99s bolt screws). Mine
wouldn=E2=80=99t move at all. But wouldn=E2=80=99t that depend on the positi=
on of
the cam??</li>
</ol><p class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph">&nbsp;</p>
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0cm;" start=3D"4" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_11562913=
02294497715MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;">One observation: The=
 piston in the AH Spares
accumulator wouldn=E2=80=99t move in/out with pressure from my thumb. The
supplier, OD Spares, said that it takes a lot of pressure and oil
to get that piston moving. Any thoughts on that??</li>
</ol><p class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I suspect that I=E2=80=99ve not managed to line the
top of the piston up properly. Zero pressure.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I had pressure before this saga all started
but it dropped drastically once the engine/gearbox warmed up. Hence
the new AH Spares accumulator with bigger bore and new ball
bearings and little springs etcetc.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I don=E2=80=99t believe that I=E2=80=99ve got anythin=
g (else!)
wrong so I=E2=80=99m wondering about the pump=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
</div>
</div>
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David-help this guy out here...he is getting desperate! He has been at=
=0Athis project for months and can't get enough pressure. What size=0Are=
amer and where can he get one? He lives in UK. Thanks, Hank=0A=0A=09----=
-------------------------------------From: "David Nock" =0ATo: gradea1@c=
harter.net=0ACc: "Michael Salter", "Healeys"=0ASent: Sunday August 29 20=
21 12:28:02PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pump queries=0A=0A Smac=
king the check ball will not make a new seat in the pump. You=0Amust cut=
 a new seat with a special reamer. =0A=0A David Nock =0A Sent from my iP=
hone =0AOn Aug 29, 2021, at 11:36 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys  wrote:=
=0A=0A   =EF=BB=BFSimon- two things...did some of that "Plastic Metal" (=
JB Weld)=0Athat you found, get into the plunger/pump body and "weld" it=
 together?=0AIt (plunger) must move up and down with the action of the c=
am on the=0Amainshaft to "pump" oil. (the wheel on the end should also b=
e free to=0Arotate) =0A Secondly, the new 1/4" ball you fitted to the pu=
mp body opening-did=0Ayou smack it to seat with the body hole??...this i=
s very important as=0Aif it does not seal perfectly, you will get "0" pr=
essure.  =0A Yes, you can engage/disengage the OD with the lever, sans t=
he=0Asolenoid. Hank=0A=0A=09----------------------------------------- Fr=
om: "Michael Salter"=0A To: "Simon Lachlan"=0A Cc: "Healeys"=0A Sent: Su=
nday August 29 2021 5:58:01AM=0A Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pump q=
ueries=0A=0ATo your question in 3. No when you put a rod up through the=
 hole in=0Athe center of the pump body lower flange you will be pressing=
 on the=0Aend of the piston which will move up and down as the overdrive=
 is=0Arotated. The spring merely holds the piston roller against the cam=
=0Auntil pressure is established.  If the piston does not move up and=0A=
down with no influence from that "rod" it is jamming in the body and=0At=
his must be corrected. =0A M  =0A On Sun., Aug. 29, 2021, 8:46 a.m. Simo=
n Lachlan via Healeys,  wrote:=0A=0A=09Hi, =0A=0A=09My overdrive is stil=
l driving me mad=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 =0A=0A=09So, I=E2=80=99ve got it reas=
sembled and have added the oil. About 3.5=0Alitres was all it required s=
o there must have been a fair bit still=0Ainside. =0A=0A=09* The solenoi=
d is still in its box. Am I right in assuming(!)that one=0Acan switch th=
e OD on manually with the lever on the RHS??=0A=0A=09* I ran the engine=
 in 3rd for about 2 minutes whilst bringing that=0Alever up, down, where=
ver. No pressure. How long does it take for the=0AOD to produce pressure=
 after the hydraulics have been reassembled?=0A=0A=09* With the pump in=
 place and its two retaining screws tightened up,=0Ashould one be able t=
o move the pump=E2=80=99s piston up and down against the=0Aspring with a=
 rod pushed up through that bottom bolt? (The bolt into=0Awhich the filt=
er=E2=80=99s bolt screws). Mine wouldn=E2=80=99t move at all. But=0Awoul=
dn=E2=80=99t that depend on the position of the cam??=0A=0A=09* One obse=
rvation: The piston in the AH Spares accumulator wouldn=E2=80=99t=0Amove=
 in/out with pressure from my thumb. The supplier, OD Spares, said=0Atha=
t it takes a lot of pressure and oil to get that piston moving. Any=0Ath=
oughts on that??=0A=0A=09I suspect that I=E2=80=99ve not managed to line=
 the top of the piston up=0Aproperly. Zero pressure. =0A=0A=09I had pres=
sure before this saga all started but it dropped=0Adrastically once the=
 engine/gearbox warmed up. Hence the new AH Spares=0Aaccumulator with bi=
gger bore and new ball bearings and little springs=0Aetcetc. =0A=0A=09I=
 don=E2=80=99t believe that I=E2=80=99ve got anything (else!) wrong so I=
=E2=80=99m=0Awondering about the pump=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.. =0A=0A=09Simon=
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<html><body>David-help this guy out here...he is getting desperate! He h=
as been at this project for months and can't get enough pressure. What s=
ize reamer and where can he get one?&nbsp; He lives in UK.&nbsp; Thanks,=
 Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>---------------=
--------------------------</p>From: "David Nock" <[email-masked]=
t><br>To: [email-masked]<br>Cc: "Michael Salter", "Healeys"<br>Sent=
: Sunday August 29 2021 12:28:02PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive p=
ump queries<br><br>=0ASmacking the check ball will not make a new seat i=
n the pump. You=0Amust cut a new seat with a special reamer.&nbsp;<br><b=
r><div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div>David Nock</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0ASent fro=
m my iPhone</div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote>On Aug 29, 2021, at=
 11:36 AM, Henry G Leach=0Avia Healeys &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wr=
ote:<br><br></blockquote>=0A</div>=0A<blockquote>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
=BB=BFSimon- two things...did some of that "Plastic=0AMetal" (JB Weld) t=
hat you found, get into the plunger/pump body and=0A"weld" it together?&=
nbsp; It (plunger) must move up and down with=0Athe action of the cam on=
 the mainshaft to "pump" oil. (the wheel on=0Athe end should also be fre=
e to rotate)=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Secondly, the new 1/4" ball you fi=
tted to the pump body=0Aopening-did you smack it to seat with the body h=
ole??...this is=0Avery important as if it does not seal perfectly, you w=
ill get "0"=0Apressure.&nbsp;</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Yes, you ca=
n engage/disengage the OD with the lever, sans the=0Asolenoid. Hank<br><=
br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div>=0A<p>----------------------=
-------------------</p>=0AFrom: "Michael Salter"<br>=0ATo: "Simon Lachla=
n"<br>=0ACc: "Healeys"<br>=0ASent: Sunday August 29 2021 5:58:01AM<br>=
=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pump queries<br><br><div>To your que=
stion in 3.=0A<div>No when you put a rod up through the hole in the cent=
er of the=0Apump body lower flange you will be pressing on the end of th=
e=0Apiston which will move up and down as the overdrive is=0Arotated.</d=
iv>=0A<div>The spring merely holds the piston roller against the cam=0Au=
ntil pressure is established.&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>If the piston does not=
 move up and down with no influence from=0Athat "rod" it is jamming in t=
he body and this must be=0Acorrected.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>M</=
div>=0A</div>=0A<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun., Aug. 29, 2021, 8:46 a.m.=0ASimon Lachlan via He=
aleys, &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;=0Awrote:<br></div>=0A<block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">=0A<div lang=3D"en-gb">=0A<div class=3D"m_1=
156291302294497715WordSection1">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,</p>=0A<p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">My overdrive is still driving me mad=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So,=
 I=E2=80=99ve got it reassembled and have added the=0Aoil. About 3.5 lit=
res was all it required so there must have been a=0Afair bit still insid=
e.</p>=0A<ol style=3D"margin-top:0cm;" start=3D"1" type=3D"1"><li class=
=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;">Th=
e solenoid is still in its box. Am I right in=0Aassuming(!)that one can=
 switch the OD on manually with the lever on=0Athe RHS??</li>=0A</ol><p=
 class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph">&nbsp;</p>=0A<ol style=
=3D"margin-top:0cm;" start=3D"2" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_1156291302294=
497715MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;">I ran the engine in 3=
<sup>rd</sup> for about 2=0Aminutes whilst bringing that lever up, down,=
 wherever. No pressure.=0AHow long does it take for the OD to produce pr=
essure after the=0Ahydraulics have been reassembled?</li>=0A</ol><p clas=
s=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph">&nbsp;</p>=0A<ol style=3D"ma=
rgin-top:0cm;" start=3D"3" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_1156291302294497715=
MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;">With the pump in place and=
 its two retaining=0Ascrews tightened up, should one be able to move the=
 pump=E2=80=99s piston=0Aup and down against the spring with a rod pushe=
d up through that=0Abottom bolt? (The bolt into which the filter=E2=80=
=99s bolt screws). Mine=0Awouldn=E2=80=99t move at all. But wouldn=E2=80=
=99t that depend on the position of=0Athe cam??</li>=0A</ol><p class=3D"=
m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph">&nbsp;</p>=0A<ol style=3D"margin-=
top:0cm;" start=3D"4" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoLi=
stParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;">One observation: The piston in t=
he AH Spares=0Aaccumulator wouldn=E2=80=99t move in/out with pressure fr=
om my thumb. The=0Asupplier, OD Spares, said that it takes a lot of pres=
sure and oil=0Ato get that piston moving. Any thoughts on that??</li>=0A=
</ol><p class=3D"m_1156291302294497715MsoListParagraph">&nbsp;</p>=0A<p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I suspect that=
 I=E2=80=99ve not managed to line the=0Atop of the piston up properly. Z=
ero pressure.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I had pressure before this sa=
ga all started=0Abut it dropped drastically once the engine/gearbox warm=
ed up. Hence=0Athe new AH Spares accumulator with bigger bore and new ba=
ll=0Abearings and little springs etcetc.</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=
 don=E2=80=99t believe that I=E2=80=99ve got anything (else!)=0Awrong so=
 I=E2=80=99m wondering about the pump=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..</p>=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon</p>=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A__________________________=
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Simon-great that David helped you with the proper tool. I'm sure he=0Aag=
rees that the fitting of the pump body and ball is critical to get=0Agoo=
d pressure. (that suggestion from someone to stretch the spring for=0Amo=
re contact is a workaround) I think if you use good replacement=0Aparts=
 that won't be necessary. With the original unaltered parts you=0Ashould=
 achieve between 450-500 lbs. which is enough to overcome the=0Asprings=
 of the direct drive position.=0A1- Its easier on the bench, but you sho=
uld be able to get to the pump=0Ain position with the unit in the car.=
=0A2- You insert a screwdriver in the channel where the ball goes and=0A=
"guide" the plunger so that it goes as stated with the flat to the=0Area=
r and it will fit the guide peg, and the hole will end up exactly=0Afaci=
ng the channel for the ball, etc. (this may be hard to see in the=0Acar=
 as it quite low and you will have to stick your head to the=0Afloor!) B=
e careful not to damage the seat!!! I would use a wood dowel=0Arather th=
an a screwdriver, but if you are careful not to exert=0Apressure and dis=
tort the seat then OK. You might need two people to do=0Athis-one below=
 to tap the pump home, and one above guiding it.=0AThe trick is to not d=
amage anything by stressing parts. Most important=0Ais, as you say, the=
 plunger must be free to move up and down with the=0Acam action.=0AIt do=
es appear that the issues you were having were that the plunger=0Awas no=
t free to ride up and down with the cam to produce pressure.=0AWhoever g=
lued it in position was not understanding how the overdrive=0Aworks. Goo=
d luck, Hank=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------From:=0Asi=
[email-masked]=0ATo: "David Nock"=0ACc: "Healeys"=0ASen=
t: Monday August 30 2021 5:30:17AM=0ASubject: RE: [Healeys] Overdrive pu=
mp queries=0A=0A=09Hi, =0A=0A=09David has already steered me in the righ=
t direction with regard to=0Athe reamer. =0A=0A=09And a further query=E2=
=80=A6.. =0A=0A=09It seems very likely from what I confront in my car an=
d from the=0Aadvice received to date =E2=80=93 for which many thanks -..=
it seems very=0Alikely that the issue is caused by the pump plunger bein=
g stuck or, I=0Asuspect, not quite orientated. =0A=0A=09Despite what you=
 guys suspect by now(!), I study form religiously=0Abefore I delve into=
 these things and have been brought up short by a=0Asection in the BMC m=
anual, Section G8, =E2=80=9CPump Valve=E2=80=9D. One is told=0Ahow to pu=
t the =E2=80=9Cpump body=E2=80=9D back in using one of many mythical=0As=
pecial tools and then the manual addresses the insertion of the=0A=E2=80=
=9Cplunger=E2=80=9D (piston):- =E2=80=9CThe pump plunger is prevented fr=
om=0Arotation when in position by a guide peg carried in the front casin=
g.=0AWhen assembling the pump, the plunger should be inserted with the f=
lat=0Aon its head facing the rear of the unit. It is possible to guide i=
t=0Apast the guide peg by means of a screwdriver inserted through the si=
de=0Aof the casting=E2=80=9D. =0A=0A=09* Can that procedure be carried o=
ut when the OD is still in the car=0Aas is implied by the manual?=0A =09=
* If so, where is the access point through which one can insert a=0Ascre=
wdriver? (Strikes me that oil would gush out=E2=80=A6..If the pump ever=
=0Arestarted pumping!)=0A =09* If not so, is there a trick involved in g=
etting the plunger up and=0Acorrectly sited?=0A=0A=09Simon =0A=0A=09FROM=
: Healeys  ON BEHALF OF Henry G Leach via Healeys=0ASENT: 30 August 2021=
 01:57=0ATO: 'David Nock' =0ACC: 'Healeys' =0ASUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Ove=
rdrive pump queries   =0A=0A=09David-help this guy out here...he is gett=
ing desperate! He has been=0Aat this project for months and can't get en=
ough pressure. What size=0Areamer and where can he get one? He lives in=
 UK. Thanks, Hank =0A=0A=09----------------------------------------- =0A=
=0A=09From: "David Nock"=0A To: [email-masked]=0A Cc: "Michael Salt=
er", "Healeys"=0A Sent: Sunday August 29 2021 12:28:02PM=0A Subject: Re:=
 [Healeys] Overdrive pump queries=0A=0A Smacking the check ball will not=
 make a new seat in the pump. You=0Amust cut a new seat with a special r=
eamer.    =0A=0A=09David Nock   =0A=0A=09

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<html><body>Simon-great that David helped you with the proper tool. I'm=
 sure he agrees that the fitting of the pump body and ball is critical t=
o get good pressure. (that suggestion from someone to stretch the spring=
 for more contact is a workaround) I think if you use good replacement p=
arts that won't be necessary. With the original unaltered parts you shou=
ld achieve between 450-500 lbs. which is enough to overcome the springs=
 of the direct drive position.<div><br></div><div>1- Its easier on the b=
ench, but you should be able to get to the pump in position with the uni=
t in the car.</div><div><br></div><div>2- You insert a screwdriver in th=
e channel where the ball goes and "guide" the plunger so that it goes as=
 stated with the flat to the rear and it will fit the guide peg, and the=
 hole will end up exactly facing the channel for the ball, etc. (this ma=
y be hard to see in the car as it quite low and you will have to stick y=
our head to the floor!) Be careful not to damage the seat!!!&nbsp; I wou=
ld use a wood dowel rather than a screwdriver, but if you are careful no=
t to exert pressure and distort the seat then OK. You might need two peo=
ple to do this-one below to tap the pump home, and one above guiding it.=
</div><div><br></div><div>The trick is to not damage anything by stressi=
ng parts. Most important is, as you say, the plunger must be free to mov=
e up and down with the cam action.</div><div><br></div><div>It does appe=
ar that the issues you were having were that the plunger was&nbsp; not f=
ree to ride up and down with the cam to produce pressure.&nbsp; Whoever=
 glued it in position was not understanding how the overdrive works. Goo=
d luck, Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>--------=
---------------------------------</p>From: [email-masked]=
.com<br>To:  "David Nock"<br>Cc: "Healeys"<br>Sent: Monday August 30 202=
1 5:30:17AM<br>Subject: RE: [Healeys] Overdrive pump queries<br><br>=0A<=
div class=3D"WordSection1">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Hi,</span></p=
>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>David=0Ahas already steered me in the r=
ight direction with regard to the=0Areamer.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>And a=0Af=
urther query=E2=80=A6..</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>It=0As=
eems very likely from what I confront in my car and from the=0Aadvice re=
ceived to date =E2=80=93 for which many thanks -..it seems very=0Alikely=
 that the issue is caused by the pump plunger being stuck or,=0AI suspec=
t, not quite orientated.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Despi=
te what you guys suspect by=0Anow(!), I study form religiously before I=
 delve into these things=0Aand have been brought up short by a section i=
n the BMC manual,=0ASection G8, =E2=80=9CPump Valve=E2=80=9D. One is tol=
d how to put the =E2=80=9Cpump body=E2=80=9D=0Aback in using one of many=
 mythical special tools and then the=0Amanual addresses the insertion of=
 the =E2=80=9Cplunger=E2=80=9D (piston):- =E2=80=9CThe=0Apump plunger is=
 prevented from rotation when in position by a guide=0Apeg carried in th=
e front casing. When assembling the pump, the=0Aplunger should be insert=
ed with the flat on its head facing the=0Arear of the unit. It is possib=
le to guide it past the guide peg by=0Ameans of a screwdriver inserted t=
hrough the side of the=0Acasting=E2=80=9D.</span></p>=0A<ol style=3D"mar=
gin-top:0cm;" start=3D"1" type=3D"1"><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" styl=
e=3D"margin-left:0cm;"><span>Can that procedure be carried out when=0Ath=
e OD is still in the car as is implied by the manual?</span></li>=0A<li=
 class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;"><span>If so, wher=
e is the access point=0Athrough which one can insert a screwdriver? (Str=
ikes me that oil=0Awould gush out=E2=80=A6..If the pump ever restarted p=
umping!)</span></li>=0A<li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-le=
ft:0cm;"><span>If not so, is there a trick involved=0Ain getting the plu=
nger up and correctly sited?</span></li>=0A</ol><p class=3D"MsoListParag=
raph"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span>Simo=
n</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>&n=
bsp;</span></p>=0A<div>=0A<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1=
E1E1 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;">=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span la=
ng=3D"en-us">From:</span></b>=0A<span lang=3D"en-us">Healeys &lt;healeys=
[email-masked]&gt;=0A<b>On Behalf Of</b> Henry G Leach via Heal=
eys<br><b>Sent:</b> 30 August 2021 01:57<br><b>To:</b> 'David Nock' &lt;=
[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;[email-masked]=
am.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pump queries</span=
></p>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;">David-help this=0Aguy out h=
ere...he is getting desperate! He has been at this project=0Afor months=
 and can't get enough pressure. What size reamer and=0Awhere can he get=
 one?&nbsp; He lives in UK.&nbsp; Thanks, Hank</p>=0A<p>----------------=
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ottom:12pt;">From: "David=0ANock"<br>=0ATo: <a>[email-masked]</a><b=
r>=0ACc: "Michael Salter", "Healeys"<br>=0ASent: Sunday August 29 2021 1=
2:28:02PM<br>=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive pump queries<br><br>=0A=
Smacking the check ball will not make a new seat in the pump. You=0Amust=
 cut a new seat with a special reamer.&nbsp;</p>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">David Nock</p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNorma=
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