Subject: [Healeys] Trailer advice

From: Charles Rice via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 01:43:17 -0500

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I have a 2020 Subaru Outback, turbo engine.  

Can it safely pull my BN2 on a typical car hauler trailer?

Thanks - Chappy BN2

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From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 09:14:09 +0200 (CEST)

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It can easily handle the trailer with car up to a total of 2500kg or more. Here in the Netherlands they are legally limited to around 1800kg total towing weight but in other areas this may be different. It is probably noted somewhere in your car papers or documentation.

In the 80's and 90's I used to trailer a horsebox with two horses in my 1800cc Subaru Impreza (permissible legal towing weight 1800kg) and later in my 2000cc Legacy. These days no horses anymore but I still drive Subaru, a Forester.

Kees Oudesluijs

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</head><body><p>It can easily handle the trailer with car up to a total of 2500kg or more. Here in the Netherlands they are legally limited to around 1800kg total towing weight but in other areas this may be different. It is probably noted somewhere in your car papers or documentation.<br></p><p>In the 80&#39;s and 90&#39;s I used to trailer a horsebox with two horses in my 1800cc Subaru Impreza (permissible legal towing weight 1800kg) and later in my 2000cc Legacy. These days no horses anymore but I still drive Subaru, a Forester.<br></p><p>Kees Oudesluijs<br></p></body></html>
 
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From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 17:18:42 +0200 (CEST)

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If it is a manual car there is no problem at all in hilly country as you have high and low gear to play with. Automatics can pull a bit less but there should not be a problem really. In Europe Subaru's are very sought after by the caravan crowd because of their permanent 4 wheel drive and ample pulling power, with or without turbo, 4 or 6 cylinder, diesel or petrol, be it Impreza, Forester, Legacy, Outback.

Concerning brakes, I may hope that the trailer has its own properly functioning braking system, as it should.

Load on the hatch should be around 50-75kg.

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</head><body><p>If it is a manual car there is no problem at all in hilly country as you have high and low gear to play with. Automatics can pull a bit less but there should not be a problem really. In Europe Subaru&#39;s are very sought after by the caravan crowd because of their permanent 4 wheel drive and ample pulling power, with or without turbo, 4 or 6 cylinder, diesel or petrol, be it Impreza, Forester, Legacy, Outback.<br></p><p>Concerning brakes, I may hope that the trailer has its own properly functioning braking system, as it should. </p><p>Load on the hatch should be around 50-75kg.<br></p></body></html>
 
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 08:21:57 -0700

Begs the question: How suitable for towing is a CVT (I believe all 
Subies use them)?

On 8/12/2021 8:18 AM, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys wrote:
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> If it is a manual car there is no problem at all in hilly country as 
> you have high and low gear to play with. Automatics can pull a bit 
> less but there should not be a problem really. In Europe Subaru's are 
> very sought after by the caravan crowd because of their permanent 4 
> wheel drive and ample pulling power, with or without turbo, 4 or 6 
> cylinder, diesel or petrol, be it Impreza, Forester, Legacy, Outback.
>
> Concerning brakes, I may hope that the trailer has its own properly 
> functioning braking system, as it should.
>

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From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 17:34:18 +0200 (CEST)

Not all automatic Subaru's have the CVT transmission. My present Forester has a 4-speed automatic, however the best Subaru's are those with a manual gearbox because of the high/low gearing.
Kees Oudesluijs
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From: Bob Spidell <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 08:57:35 -0700

OK, but OP didn't say. Sounds to me like you don't think much of the CVT?

I'm still curious as to whether a CVT is even suitable for towing (not 
that I'd own one).

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From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 20:03:12 +0200 (CEST)

I do not think any automatics are ideal for towing, although many use automatic cars for (heavy) towing without problems. If modern CVTs are worse than conventional automatics I do not know.
Kees Oudesluijs
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Here is the perfect example of a max tow. Based on gross weight as=0ARic=
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g. I could not=0Alegally, or safely, tow my big Healey (2400 lbs.), with=
 this setup.=0AThis trip to Madres, Or. involved climbing the Cascades,=
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d some 92=0Aoctane clear fuel which gave the Ranger some extra umph!=0AB=
e careful what you tow, and as stated, you also need to stop the rig,=0A=
somehow. Hank=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------From: "Ke=
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y August 12 2021 11:09:05AM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Trailer advice=0A=
=0A I do not think any automatics are ideal for towing, although many us=
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<html><body>Here is the perfect example of a max tow. Based on gross wei=
ght as Richard Mayor perfectly described. He is spot on for consideratio=
ns to tow any car trailer.&nbsp; One other factor is the tires and their=
 load rating (read on sidewall).<div><br></div><div>I could tow the Spri=
te (about 1700 lbs.) on an 14' aluminum trailer with my '03 Ranger, but=
 that was max. for the rating. I could not legally, or safely, tow my bi=
g Healey (2400 lbs.), with this setup. This trip to Madres, Or. involved=
 climbing the Cascades, so over the Summit was a special treat. Thankful=
ly, I was able to find some 92 octane clear fuel which gave the Ranger s=
ome extra umph!</div><div><br></div><div>Be careful what you tow,&nbsp;=
 and as stated, you also need to stop the rig, somehow.&nbsp; Hank<br><b=
r><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>--------------------------=
---------------</p>From: "Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys" <[email-masked]=
am.net><br>To: "Bob Spidell"<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Thursday August 12 2021 11=
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nk any automatics are ideal for towing, although many=0Ause automatic ca=
rs for (heavy) towing without problems. If modern=0ACVTs are worse than=
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