Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters

From: Henry G Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
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I like the "clackity" sound of my 100...I keep the lifters "loose" so=0A=
as not to burn a valve seat or push rod, and I did add zinc upon=0Arebui=
ld and also poured it down the PR holes onto the cam prior to=0Astartup.=
 My 100 is just 10 cars from Steven's old #598 and that was=0Aone origin=
al car. These cars will never sound as quite as the 6-cyls.=0AA good sou=
rce for cam repair is Delta Cams, in Washington state. They=0Awill weld=
 up and regrind any damage. Great work and reasonable. Hank=0A#588=0A=0A=
=09-----------------------------------------From: "Steven Kingsbury via=
=0AHealeys" =0ATo: "Michael Salter"=0ACc: "[email-masked]"=0ASen=
t: Thursday August 5 2021 9:09:39PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] 100 lifters=
=0A=0A Thanks for the feedback. My tappets have never been silent. They=
 have=0Aalways made noise and though not as loud as my '68 MGB/GT that I=
 had,=0Athey're not quiet. And after having adjusted them when I retorqu=
ed the=0Ahead at 500 mile mark, they still weren't silent. They sound li=
ke my=0Aold BN1 did. And because I have louvered bonnet on this car, the=
y seem=0Aeven a bit louder, but with the bonnet up and running in the ga=
rage,=0Athey sound almost exactly like my old car. Now when I'm out driv=
ing=0Athey seem pretty silent and the engine runs very smooth.  As for "=
fir"=0Ain the oil. When I drained my engine at the 500 mile mark, I ran=
 all=0Aof the oil through a fine, paint filter and then used a magnet in=
 the=0Afilter. Nothing appeared on the magnet. I also took the magnet an=
d ran=0Ait through the oil before I poured it through the filter, and ag=
ain=0Anothing. I even ran the magnet through the empty drain pan after=
=0Atransferring the oil, and again, nothing.  Sorry to hear about your=
=0Atroubles and thank you for the tips on what to listen for and what to=
=0Alook for. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. And just to be=0A=
clear, these lifters you used are not the new "new" ones available=0Athr=
ough AH Spares. Rather they are New Old Stock ones that have been=0Ain y=
ou possession for quite a while now, right?   Again, good luck and=0Ahop=
efully the cam isn't completely destroyed and you caught it in=0Atime. =
 Thanks! Steven =0A On August 5, 2021 at 5:39 AM, Michael Salter  wrote:=
=0A=0A    The first sign of problems was having to adjust the tappets wh=
ich=0Ahad initially been silent after 2000 miles and then again at 4500.=
=0AAfter adjusting they were still audible and had previously been=0Asil=
ent. Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there was "fir" in=0Athe=
 drain plug magnet. I'm very disappointed to have destroyed a very=0Alow=
 mileage "M" cam and a set of NOS lifters that I had been saving=0Afor d=
ecades. I'm seriously considering having silicon nitride lifters=0Amanuf=
actured but at over $1000 a set its a serious investment. =0A M  =0A On=
 Wed., Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m. Steven Kingsbury,  wrote:=0A   I just re=
built my 100 engine and purchased my lifters from AH=0ASpares in the UK.=
 These were their new design for better oil flow. I=0Anow have 1000 mile=
s or so on the new engine and once I got my problems=0Afigured out with=
 my distributor, the car is running well and smooth. =0ANow I'm wonderin=
g when the other shoe is going to drop! What problems=0Adid you have poi=
nting you to the lifters as the source of those=0Aproblems? When I retor=
qued the head, I readjusted the rockers and=0Afound no problems. They we=
re a little off, but I expected a little. =0AWhat should I be looking fo=
r? I used Driven Break In oil and then I=0Aswitched to VR1 like you afte=
r 500 miles. I have been driving the car=0Ato build up some trust in it=
 and it's turning in to a joy to drive.=0AI've got M mods on this engine=
, cam, H6 carbs, M pistons and these new=0Alifters. So far, so good.   T=
hanks for your help, Steven Kingsbury BN1=0A=0A On August 3, 2021 at 5:1=
9 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys  wrote:=0A=0A    After only 6000 miles=
 the NOS BMC lifters that I installed in my=0Aengine with a very low mil=
eage "M" cam have started to deteriorate.=0AThis engine has had a steady=
 diet of VR1 non synthetic and it has had=0A4 changes in 6K miles.  Very=
 disappointing.  I'm considering trying=0Abucket type Buick lifters with=
 longer push rods and a new cam. Does=0Aanyone have experience with the=
 durability of the old Buick lifters=0A... getting a little desperate he=
re. Fortunately I caught this issue=0Abefore it ruined the engine. =0A M=
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<html><body>I like the "clackity" sound of my 100...I keep the lifters "=
loose" so as not to burn a valve seat or push rod, and I did add zinc up=
on rebuild and also poured it down the PR holes onto the cam prior to st=
artup. My 100 is just 10 cars from Steven's old #598 and that was one or=
iginal car. These cars will never sound as quite as the 6-cyls.<div><br>=
</div><div>A good source for cam repair is Delta Cams, in Washington sta=
te. They will weld up and regrind any damage.&nbsp; Great work and reaso=
nable. Hank #588<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>----=
-------------------------------------</p>From: "Steven Kingsbury via Hea=
leys" <[email-masked]><br>To: "Michael Salter"<br>Cc: "healeys@a=
utox.team.net"<br>Sent: Thursday August 5 2021 9:09:39PM<br>Subject: Re:=
 [Healeys] 100 lifters<br><br>=0A<div>Thanks for the feedback. My tappet=
s have never been silent.=0AThey have always made noise and though not a=
s loud as my '68 MGB/GT=0Athat I had, they're not quiet. And after havin=
g adjusted them when=0AI retorqued the head at 500 mile mark, they still=
 weren't silent.=0AThey sound like my old BN1 did. And because I have lo=
uvered bonnet=0Aon this car, they seem even a bit louder, but with the b=
onnet up=0Aand running in the garage, they sound almost exactly like my=
 old=0Acar. Now when I'm out driving they seem pretty silent and the=0Ae=
ngine runs very smooth.</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;As for "fir" in t=
he oil. When I drained my=0Aengine at the 500 mile mark, I ran all of th=
e oil through a fine,=0Apaint filter and then used a magnet in the filte=
r. Nothing appeared=0Aon the magnet. I also took the magnet and ran it t=
hrough the oil=0Abefore I poured it through the filter, and again nothin=
g. I even=0Aran the magnet through the empty drain pan after transferrin=
g the=0Aoil, and again, nothing.</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sorry to=
 hear about your troubles and thank=0Ayou for the tips on what to listen=
 for and what to look for. Good=0Aluck with whatever you decide to do. A=
nd just to be clear, these=0Alifters you used are not the new "new" ones=
 available through AH=0ASpares. Rather they are New Old Stock ones that=
 have been in you=0Apossession for quite a while now, right?&nbsp;</div>=
=0A<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Again, good luck and hopefully the cam isn't=
=0Acompletely destroyed and you caught it in time.&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Th=
anks!</div>=0A<div>Steven</div>=0A<div><br>=0AOn August 5, 2021 at 5:39=
 AM, Michael Salter=0A&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></di=
v>=0A<div>=0A<blockquote>=0A<div class=3D"msg-quote">=0A<div>The first s=
ign of problems was having to adjust the=0Atappets which had initially b=
een silent after 2000 miles and then=0Aagain at 4500.=0A<div>After adjus=
ting they were still audible and had=0Apreviously been silent.</div>=0A<=
div>Then at the 2000 and 4000 mile oil changes there=0Awas "fir" in the=
 drain plug magnet.</div>=0A<div>I'm very disappointed to have destroyed=
 a very low=0Amileage "M" cam and a set of NOS lifters that I had been s=
aving for=0Adecades.</div>=0A<div>I'm seriously considering having silic=
on nitride=0Alifters manufactured but at over $1000 a set its a serious=
=0Ainvestment.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>M</div>=0A</div>=0A<br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">=0A<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed.=
, Aug. 4, 2021, 10:47 a.m.=0ASteven Kingsbury, &lt;<a>airtightproduction=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;=0Awrote:<br></div>=0A<blockquote style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">=0A<div>=0A<div>I just rebuilt my 100 engine and purchased my lift=
ers from AH=0ASpares in the UK. These were their new design for better o=
il flow.=0AI now have 1000 miles or so on the new engine and once I got=
 my=0Aproblems figured out with my distributor, the car is running well=
=0Aand smooth.</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Now I'm wondering when the=
 other shoe is=0Agoing to drop! What problems did you have pointing you=
 to the=0Alifters as the source of those problems? When I retorqued the=
 head,=0AI readjusted the rockers and found no problems. They were a lit=
tle=0Aoff, but I expected a little.</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;What=
 should I be looking for? I used Driven=0ABreak In oil and then I switch=
ed to VR1 like you after 500 miles. I=0Ahave been driving the car to bui=
ld up some trust in it and it's=0Aturning in to a joy to drive. I've got=
 M mods on this engine, cam,=0AH6 carbs, M pistons and these new lifters=
 So far, so=0Agood.&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks for you=
r help,</div>=0A<div>Steven Kingsbury</div>=0A<div>BN1</div>=0A<div><br>=
=0AOn August 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys=0A&lt;<a>hea=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;=0Awrote:<br><br></div>=0A<div>=0A<blockquote=
>=0A<div>=0A<div>After only 6000 miles the NOS BMC lifters that I=0Ainst=
alled in my engine with a very low mileage "M" cam have started=0Ato det=
eriorate.&nbsp;=0A<div>This engine has had a steady diet of VR1 non=0Asy=
nthetic and it has had 4 changes in 6K miles.&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Very di=
sappointing.&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>I'm&nbsp; considering trying bucket type=
 Buick=0Alifters with longer push rods and a new cam.</div>=0A<div>Does=
 anyone have experience with the durability of=0Athe old Buick lifters .=
. getting a little desperate here.</div>=0A<div>Fortunately I caught th=
is issue before it ruined=0Athe engine.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>M=
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