Subject: [Healeys] Brake problem

From: Paul Leeks via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 18:02:52 +0100

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Hi chaps

I'm looking for some drum brake advice for my 100/6.

My old brakes were binding or not working and, on taking them apart, I
realised a number of the brake cylinders had ceased.  I managed to free a
couple of them, replaced a couple more and refitted with new brake shoes
all round.

Now, having bled the system with fresh brake fluid, the front drums work
fine, but the rear drums do not work (ie the shoes do not move) at all.  I
have brake fluid getting to all four wheels and I have no brake fluid
leakage anywhere (including from the brake cylinders).  The brake pedal
does feel slightly spongy (although not bad) and there is no air in the
brake fluid coming out when bleeding.  Also, the handbrake no longer has
any effect (on maximum adjustment)!

Any advice on where to look next would be gratefully received :-)

Many thanks

Paul Leeks
100/6 BN4

*Paul Leeks*
[email-masked]* <[email-masked]>
*07718 523778*

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi chaps<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m looking for some=C2=A0=
drum brake advice for my 100/6.</div><div><br></div><div>My old brakes were=
 binding or not working and, on taking them apart, I realised a number of t=
he brake cylinders had ceased.=C2=A0 I managed to free a couple of them, re=
placed a couple more and refitted with new brake shoes all round.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Now, having bled the system with fresh brake fluid, the fro=
nt drums work fine, but the rear drums do not work (ie the shoes do not mov=
e) at all.=C2=A0 I have brake fluid getting to all four wheels and I have n=
o brake fluid leakage anywhere (including from the brake cylinders).=C2=A0 =
The brake pedal does feel slightly spongy (although not bad) and there is n=
o air in the brake fluid coming out when bleeding.=C2=A0 Also, the handbrak=
e no longer has any effect=C2=A0(on maximum=C2=A0adjustment)!</div><div><br=
></div><div>Any advice on where to look next would be gratefully received :=
-)</div><div><br></div><div>Many=C2=A0thanks</div><div><br></div><div>Paul =
Leeks</div><div>100/6 BN4</div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signatu=
re" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div=
><br></div><b>Paul Leeks</b><div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><b>[email-masked]</b></a>=
</font></div><div><b><font color=3D"#000000">07718 523778</font></b></div><=
/div></div></div></div>

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From: Henry G Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 18:29:41 +0000 sQNMPojkyRI8pYVvdkZxtaPe0GRbQMgikqfy21knz6C5FdsFGxxvAzuhIRzICoP+/kpi9GtvZljSztLhwyjmjQt1h3bt5cFyFSwacw611A4Kd6qpla/7T/Yp

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Paul-If you assembled everything correctly and you have no leeks (a=0Apu=
n, sorry, couldn't resist-pun my name) but the pedal is still=0A"spongy"=
 you still have air in the system. If this is the early 100-6=0Amaster c=
ylinder forget about it. That system is almost impossible to=0Ableed unl=
ess you pressure bleed it. That tiny reservoir is just not=0Acapable of=
 holding enough fluid to effect a bleed. Suggest you upgrade=0Ato the la=
ter master cylinder with a separate canister. That will solve=0Athe blee=
ding issues.=0AHowever, the fact that you do not have a handbrake smacks=
 of an=0Aassembly or adjustment or incorrect part problem. Did you get t=
he=0Aexact correct replacement brake shoes, or have your originals relin=
ed?=0AIf so, you should be able to adjust up and lock the wheels. Then b=
ack=0Aoff until they just rub. If the handbrake lever is not overstretch=
ed,=0Ayou should be able to make an adjustment for 5 or so clicks to loc=
k=0Athe wheels. Regards, Hank Leach (not Leech)=0A=0A=09----------------=
-------------------------From: "Paul Leeks via=0AHealeys" =0ATo: "healey=
s"=0ACc: =0ASent: Friday August 13 2021 10:04:31AM=0ASubject: [Healeys]=
 Brake problem=0A=0A Hi chaps =0A I'm looking for some drum brake advice=
 for my 100/6. =0A My old brakes were binding or not working and, on tak=
ing them apart,=0AI realised a number of the brake cylinders had ceased.=
 I managed to=0Afree a couple of them, replaced a couple more and refitt=
ed with new=0Abrake shoes all round. =0A Now, having bled the system wit=
h fresh brake fluid, the front drums=0Awork fine, but the rear drums do=
 not work (ie the shoes do not move)=0Aat all. I have brake fluid gettin=
g to all four wheels and I have no=0Abrake fluid leakage anywhere (inclu=
ding from the brake cylinders). The=0Abrake pedal does feel slightly spo=
ngy (although not bad) and there is=0Ano air in the brake fluid coming o=
ut when bleeding. Also, the=0Ahandbrake no longer has any effect (on max=
imum adjustment)! =0A Any advice on where to look next would be grateful=
ly received :-) =0A Many thanks =0A Paul Leeks 100/6 BN4    =0A=0A PAUL=
 LEEKS [email-masked] 07718 523778

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<html><body>Paul-If you assembled everything correctly and you have no l=
eeks (a pun, sorry, couldn't resist-pun my name) but the pedal is still=
 "spongy" you still have air in the system. If this is the early 100-6 m=
aster cylinder forget about it. That system is almost impossible to blee=
d unless you pressure bleed it. That tiny reservoir is just not capable=
 of holding enough fluid to effect a bleed. Suggest you upgrade to the l=
ater master cylinder with a separate canister. That will solve the bleed=
ing issues.<div><br></div><div>However, the fact that you do not have a=
 handbrake smacks of an assembly or adjustment or incorrect part problem=
. Did you get the exact correct replacement brake shoes, or have your or=
iginals relined? If so, you should be able to adjust up and lock the whe=
els. Then back off&nbsp; until they just rub. If the handbrake lever is=
 not overstretched, you should be able to make an adjustment for 5 or so=
 clicks to lock the wheels. Regards, Hank Leach (not Leech)<br><br><div=
 class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>--------------------------------=
---------</p>From: "Paul Leeks via Healeys" <[email-masked]><br>=
To: "healeys"<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Friday August 13 2021 10:04:31AM<br>Subje=
ct: [Healeys] Brake problem<br><br>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi chaps=0A<div><=
br></div>=0A<div>I'm looking for some&nbsp;drum brake advice for my=0A10=
0/6.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>My old brakes were binding or not wo=
rking and, on taking them=0Aapart, I realised a number of the brake cyli=
nders had ceased.&nbsp;=0AI managed to free a couple of them, replaced a=
 couple more and=0Arefitted with new brake shoes all round.</div>=0A<div=
><br></div>=0A<div>Now, having bled the system with fresh brake fluid, t=
he front=0Adrums work fine, but the rear drums do not work (ie the shoes=
 do=0Anot move) at all.&nbsp; I have brake fluid getting to all four=0Aw=
heels and I have no brake fluid leakage anywhere (including from=0Athe b=
rake cylinders).&nbsp; The brake pedal does feel slightly=0Aspongy (alth=
ough not bad) and there is no air in the brake fluid=0Acoming out when b=
leeding.&nbsp; Also, the handbrake no longer has=0Aany effect&nbsp;(on m=
aximum&nbsp;adjustment)!</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Any advice on wh=
ere to look next would be gratefully received=0A:-)</div>=0A<div><br></d=
iv>=0A<div>Many&nbsp;thanks</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Paul Leeks</d=
iv>=0A<div>100/6 BN4</div>=0A<div>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_sig=
nature">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<b>Pa=
ul Leeks</b>=0A<div><a><font color=3D"#0000FF"><b>[email-masked]=
</b></font></a></div>=0A<div><b><font color=3D"#000000">07718 523778</fo=
nt></b></div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</[email-masked]=
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