Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bastuck water pumps

From: Henry G Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 18:07:30 +0000 eOdwxNFwnBGIja9yZNRa/5zrJ37jXdY5KRqknnM1ANhbGoVYIvK5LAtLA2wrOUWglLbB7UwznIjScE3CTXy64Yl6AH+2HJZ1NVoaGMvJVGaQ3AP1yo/wvlCE 8Dn971yd+AS4f5mxWyAPzw==

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Guys-I had the good fortune to have my original BN1 100 water pump=0Areb=
uilt by a outstanding machinist, Doug Worthington, who used a=0ADelran s=
eal/bush to do the job. It works perfect! No leaks. He used=0ADelran on=
 a huge piece of construction equipment subject to extreme=0Avibration a=
nd solved that issue. I can only hope it will run on my car=0Aforever...=
or at least till I'm gone. Hank=0A=0A=09--------------------------------=
---------From: "Michael Salter via=0AHealeys" =0ATo: "Michael Oritt"=0AC=
c: "Healeys"=0ASent: Sunday August 29 2021 5:21:20AM=0ASubject: Re: [Hea=
leys] Bastuck=0A=0A In my experience "upgraded" is another way of saying=
 " we didn't want=0Ato pay for the tooling for an accurate reproduction=
 ". =0A M  =0A On Sun., Aug. 29, 2021, 7:30 a.m. Michael Oritt via Heale=
ys,  wrote:=0A   Bob-- =0A Thanks and in checking the Moss catalogue thi=
s morning I see that in=0Afact they do sell the two side-by-side as you=
 state at $96.00 and=0A$163.00 respectively. That is an 80% increase in=
 price for the=0A"upgraded" pump and I must wonder what the pump achieve=
s--and how it=0Adoes it--to justify such an increase. "Upgrade" might ha=
ve several=0Ameanings and given the propensity of these pumps to fail, p=
erhaps the=0Aterm describes longevity versus performance, with a better-=
quality=0Aseal. OTOH if the upgrade is in performance that usually means=
=0Aincreased water flow. Unless the outer housing is substantially large=
r=0Athe cast-in "fins" on the internal impeller cannot be that much larg=
er=0Aand so I wonder how such an increase would be achieved. =0A Just sa=
yin'....  =0A=0A On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:07 PM Bob Spidell  wrote:=0A=
  Michael,=0A=0A The 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN all a=
ppear to be=0Athe same:=0A=0A [1]https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-=
uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html [2]=0A=0A (if you look close you can see '--STUC=
K' on the pump body)=0A=0A Claims '30% more flow,' BUT--there's always a=
 'but'--per the Moss=0Acatalog it will not fit the OEM brass heater line=
 valve/nipple. The=0Acheaper one Moss sells supposedly does, but best I=
 can tell it's a=0ACounty product. I've bad experiences with County, but=
 both Tom Monaco=0Aand David Nock say they have fit many with no issues.=
=0A=0A The new one from AHSpares appears to be different, but also comes=
=0Awith a barbed nipple:=0A=0A [3]https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-heal=
ey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-wi=
th-34-pulley.aspx=0A[4]=0A=0A I started to remove my pump, but found the=
 pulley was loose; pump=0Aappears to be OK.=0A=0A Bob=0A=0AOn 8/28/2021=
 7:26 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:=0A   AsI recall Moss is or was selling "U=
pgraded" water pumps.  Does=0Aanyone know what the "upgrade" consists of=
? Bob, if you buy one I hope=0Ayou will post what your appraisal and exp=
erience with the part is--for=0Anow I have come to0 regard the pumps we=
 are offered as "wear items".  =0A On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 9:42 PM Bob S=
pidell  wrote:=0A  Thanks. The one Bastuck is selling appears to be the=
 'upgraded' pump=0AAHSpares is selling.=0A=0A It appears my pump is OK,=
 the pulley had just come loose. Thanks for=0Athe tips, guys.=0A=0A Bob=
=0A=0AOn 8/28/2021 10:21 AM, [email-masked] wrote:=0A AH Spares, UK=
 is currently advertising water pumps for BN1-2s in the=0AAH Magazine- t=
hey show their pump in the ad. Good folks to work with.=0AHank=0A=0A --=
=0ABest--Michael _______________________________________________=0A Supp=
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hspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/=
premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx=0A[4]=0Ahttps://www.ahspares.=
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<html><body>Guys-I had the good fortune to have my original BN1 100 wate=
r pump rebuilt by a&nbsp; outstanding machinist, Doug Worthington, who u=
sed a Delran seal/bush to do the job. It works perfect! No leaks.&nbsp;=
 He used Delran on a huge piece of construction equipment subject to ext=
reme vibration and solved that issue. I can only hope it will run on my=
 car forever...or at least till I'm gone. Hank<br><br><div class=3D"repl=
y-new-signature"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>F=
rom: "Michael Salter via Healeys" <[email-masked]><br>To: "Micha=
el Oritt"<br>Cc: "Healeys"<br>Sent: Sunday August 29 2021 5:21:20AM<br>S=
ubject: Re: [Healeys] Bastuck<br><br>=0A<div>In my experience "upgraded"=
 is another way of=0Asaying " we didn't want to pay for the tooling for=
 an accurate=0Areproduction ".=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>M</div>=0A</div>=
=0A<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Sun., Aug. 29, 2021, 7:30 a.m.=0AMichael Oritt via Healeys, &lt;<a=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;=0Awrote:<br></div>=0A<blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex;">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"color:#3333ff;">Bob--</div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:#3333ff;"><br></div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"c=
olor:#3333ff;">Thanks and in=0Achecking the Moss catalogue&nbsp;this mor=
ning I see that in fact=0Athey do sell the two side-by-side as you&nbsp;=
state at $96.00 and=0A$163.00 respectively.&nbsp; That is an 80% increas=
e in price for=0Athe "upgraded" pump and I must wonder what the pump ach=
ieves--and=0Ahow it does it--to justify such an increase.&nbsp; "Upgrade=
" might=0Ahave several meanings and given the propensity of these pumps=
 to=0Afail, perhaps the&nbsp;term describes longevity versus performance=
,=0Awith a better-quality seal.&nbsp; OTOH if the upgrade is in=0Aperfor=
mance that usually means increased water&nbsp;flow.&nbsp;=0AUnless the o=
uter housing is substantially larger the cast-in "fins"=0Aon the interna=
l impeller cannot be that much larger and&nbsp;so I=0Awonder how such an=
 increase would be achieved.</div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:#3333ff;"><br></div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"c=
olor:#3333ff;">Just=0Asayin'....&nbsp;</div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"color:#3333ff;"><br></div>=0A</div>=0A<br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 28, 2021=
 at 11:07 PM=0ABob Spidell &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;=0Awrote:<=
br></div>=0A<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x .8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">=0A<div=
>Michael,<br><br>=0AThe 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN al=
l appear to be=0Athe same:<br><br><a href=3D"https://www.bpnorthwest.com=
/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html"></a><a href=3D"https://www.bpnorthw=
est.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html">https://www.bpnorthwest.com/=
water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html</a><br><br>=0A(if you look close you=
 can see '--STUCK' on the pump body)<br><br>=0AClaims '30% more flow,' B=
UT--there's always a 'but'--per the Moss=0Acatalog it will not fit the O=
EM brass heater line valve/nipple. The=0Acheaper one Moss sells supposed=
ly does, but best I can tell it's a=0ACounty product. I've bad experienc=
es with County, but both Tom=0AMonaco and David Nock say they have fit m=
any with no issues.<br><br>=0AThe new one from AHSpares appears to be di=
fferent, but also comes=0Awith a barbed nipple:<br><br><a href=3D"https:=
//www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-=
cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx"></a><a href=3D"https:=
//www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-=
cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx">https://www.ahspares.=
co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-=
water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx</a><br><br><br>=0AI started to remove=
 my pump, but found the pulley was loose; pump=0Aappears to be OK.<br><b=
r>=0ABob<br><br><div>On 8/28/2021 7:26 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:<br></div=
>=0A<blockquote>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);">AsI recall=0AMoss is or was selling "Upgrade=
d"=0Awater&nbsp;pumps.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);">Does anyone=0Aknow what the "upgrade" c=
onsists of?</div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,5=
1,255);">Bob, if you=0Abuy one I hope you will post what your appraisal=
 and experience=0Awith&nbsp;the part is--for now I have come to0 regard=
 the pumps we=0Aare offered as "wear items".</div>=0A</div>=0A<br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Au=
g 28, 2021 at 9:42 PM=0ABob Spidell &lt;<a>[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
=0Awrote:<br></div>=0A<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px .8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
;">=0A<div>Thanks. The one Bastuck is selling appears to be the=0A'upgra=
ded' pump AHSpares is selling.<br><br>=0AIt appears my pump is OK, the p=
ulley had just come loose. Thanks=0Afor the tips, guys.<br><br>=0ABob<br=
><br><div>On 8/28/2021 10:21 AM, <a>[email-masked]</a>=0Awrote:<br>=
</div>=0A<blockquote>AH Spares, UK is currently advertising=0Awater pump=
s for BN1-2s in the AH Magazine- they show their pump in=0Athe ad. Good=
 folks to work with. Hank<br><br></blockquote>=0A</div>=0A</blockquote>=
=0A</div>=0A</blockquote>=0A<br></div>=0A</blockquote>=0A</div>=0A<br cl=
ear=3D"all"><div><br></div>=0A--<br><div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#333=
3FF">Best--Michael</font></div>=0A______________________________________=
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