Subject: Re: [Healeys] o/d not engaging

From: Henry G Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 17:21:59 +0000 ISnzkYF5sDSgs11Tz64s3PTMM3Kv2ANW1sopkch5bDrB2l0XzSIJhNyXLoQ1io/G8DcSzYmGk3orzbSDfOgCwJYm6vIxlhQxtBJgpuvoK1WLitFh2+gU6j+n

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First thing I would do is swap out the "new" solenoid for another, to=0A=
see if the unit works properly. It sounds like this one is wimpy.=0AWhen=
 you say gasket replacement, I'm assuming that you mean the gasket=0Abet=
ween the side cover and the body. The solenoid has no gasket and=0Aaddin=
g one would create a problem. The side cover gasket is not very=0Athick,=
 so use sealant to prevent any leaks. (also replace o-ring).=0AOther tha=
n that, there is no reason that the gasket replacement would=0Aaffect th=
e operation, providing the accumulator parts are assembled=0Acorrectly,=
 and are in good working order.=0AFour hundred pounds of pressure is nee=
ded to overcome the 8 springs=0Awhich keep the unit in direct drive. Any=
 less will not shift properly.=0ANow carefully read and adjust the solen=
oid position as described in=0Athe manual. When adjusted, the lever only=
 moves about 1/16" to engage=0AOD. Regards, Hank=0A=0A=09---------------=
--------------------------From: "healeymanjim" =0ATo: "[email-masked]=
m.net"=0ACc: =0ASent: Saturday July 10 2021 7:53:21PM=0ASubject: [Healey=
s] o/d=0A=0A for a few months i have been struggling with an overdrive t=
hat fails=0Ato engage with the solenoid (new one) but will engage if=0A=
 i push on the right side setting lever. made many different=0Aadjustmen=
ts and none worked. solenoid will instantly lift the=0A left side adjust=
ing arm as long as there is no oil pressure. it will=0Anot lift the adju=
stment arm more than a few millimeters=0A when car is moving. we had rem=
oved the solenoid bracket and replaced=0Aa gasket. not sure what could h=
ave happened but=0A trans and o/d are now separated on my workbench and=
 i can see nothing=0Awrong anywhere. checked and reseated ball on=0A oil=
 pump and found no grit or dirt. small accumulator piston moves up=0Aand=
 down inside housing assembly. there were no=0A problems with overdrive=
 until gasket change. any help appreciated.=0A _________________________=
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<html><body>First thing I would do is swap out the "new" solenoid for an=
other, to see if the unit works properly.&nbsp; It sounds like this one=
 is wimpy.<div><br></div><div>When you say gasket replacement, I'm assum=
ing that you mean the gasket between the side cover and the body.&nbsp;=
 The solenoid has no gasket and adding one would create a problem. The s=
ide cover gasket is not very thick, so&nbsp; use sealant to prevent any=
 leaks. (also replace o-ring).&nbsp; Other than that, there is no reason=
 that the gasket replacement would affect the operation, providing the a=
ccumulator parts are assembled correctly, and are in good working order.=
</div><div><br></div><div>Four hundred pounds of pressure is needed to o=
vercome the 8 springs which keep the unit in direct drive. Any less will=
 not shift properly.</div><div><br></div><div>Now carefully read and adj=
ust the solenoid position as described in the manual. When adjusted, the=
 lever only moves about 1/16" to engage OD. Regards, Hank<br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>-----------------------------------=
------</p>From: "healeymanjim" <[email-masked]><br>To: "heale=
[email-masked]"<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Saturday July 10 2021 7:53:21PM<br>S=
ubject: [Healeys] o/d<br><br>=0Afor a few months i have been struggling=
 with an overdrive that=0Afails to engage with the solenoid (new one) bu=
t will engage if<br>=0Ai push on the right side setting lever. made many=
 different=0Aadjustments and none worked. solenoid will instantly lift t=
he<br>=0Aleft side adjusting arm as long as there is no oil pressure. it=
=0Awill not lift the adjustment arm more than a few millimeters<br>=0Awh=
en car is moving. we had removed the solenoid bracket and=0Areplaced a g=
asket. not sure what could have happened but<br>=0Atrans and o/d are now=
 separated on my workbench and i can see=0Anothing wrong anywhere. check=
ed and reseated ball on<br>=0Aoil pump and found no grit or dirt. small=
 accumulator piston moves=0Aup and down inside housing assembly. there w=
ere no<br>=0Aproblems with overdrive until gasket change. any help=0Aapp=
reciated.<br>=0A_______________________________________________<br>=0ASu=
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From: john harper <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 19:25:15 +0100

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Hank

On the open type of mechanism the bottom rubber stop often rots away in oil
and allows the solenoid armature to drop too low for the heavy current
solenoid coil to lift it up to the point where the heavy coil is no longer
connected.

There are situations where the armature will not lift until the car goes
over a bump. This is sometimes the reason why overdrives can come in
erratically.

One can replace the bottom rubber stop but a more reliable cure is to tap
and thread in a small bolt in its place and then adjust it in the same way
as it is explained in the enclosed version.

Best regards

On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 18:23, Henry G Leach via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> First thing I would do is swap out the "new" solenoid for another, to see
> if the unit works properly.  It sounds like this one is wimpy.
>
> When you say gasket replacement, I'm assuming that you mean the gasket
> between the side cover and the body.  The solenoid has no gasket and adding
> one would create a problem. The side cover gasket is not very thick, so
> use sealant to prevent any leaks. (also replace o-ring).  Other than that,
> there is no reason that the gasket replacement would affect the operation,
> providing the accumulator parts are assembled correctly, and are in good
> working order.
>
> Four hundred pounds of pressure is needed to overcome the 8 springs which
> keep the unit in direct drive. Any less will not shift properly.
>
> Now carefully read and adjust the solenoid position as described in the
> manual. When adjusted, the lever only moves about 1/16" to engage OD.
> Regards, Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "healeymanjim"
> To: "[email-masked]"
> Cc:
> Sent: Saturday July 10 2021 7:53:21PM
> Subject: [Healeys] o/d
>
> for a few months i have been struggling with an overdrive that fails to
> engage with the solenoid (new one) but will engage if
> i push on the right side setting lever. made many different adjustments
> and none worked. solenoid will instantly lift the
> left side adjusting arm as long as there is no oil pressure. it will not
> lift the adjustment arm more than a few millimeters
> when car is moving. we had removed the solenoid bracket and replaced a
> gasket. not sure what could have happened but
> trans and o/d are now separated on my workbench and i can see nothing
> wrong anywhere. checked and reseated ball on
> oil pump and found no grit or dirt. small accumulator piston moves up and
> down inside housing assembly. there were no
> problems with overdrive until gasket change. any help appreciated.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hank<div><br></div><div>On the open type of mechanism the =
bottom rubber stop often rots away in oil and allows the solenoid armature =
to drop too low for the heavy current solenoid coil to lift it up to the po=
int where the heavy coil is no longer connected.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div>=
<div>There are situations where the armature will not lift until the car go=
es over a bump. This is sometimes the reason why overdrives can come in err=
atically.</div><div><br></div><div>One can replace the bottom rubber stop b=
ut a more reliable cure is to tap and thread in a small bolt in its=C2=A0pl=
ace and then adjust=C2=A0it in the same way as it is explained in the enclo=
sed version.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, 11 Jul 2021=
 at 18:23, Henry G Leach via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>First thing I would do is swap out the &=
quot;new&quot; solenoid for another, to see if the unit works properly.=C2=
=A0 It sounds like this one is wimpy.<div><br></div><div>When you say gaske=
t replacement, I&#39;m assuming that you mean the gasket between the side c=
over and the body.=C2=A0 The solenoid has no gasket and adding one would cr=
eate a problem. The side cover gasket is not very thick, so=C2=A0 use seala=
nt to prevent any leaks. (also replace o-ring).=C2=A0 Other than that, ther=
e is no reason that the gasket replacement would affect the operation, prov=
iding the accumulator parts are assembled correctly, and are in good workin=
g order.</div><div><br></div><div>Four hundred pounds of pressure is needed=
 to overcome the 8 springs which keep the unit in direct drive. Any less wi=
ll not shift properly.</div><div><br></div><div>Now carefully read and adju=
st the solenoid position as described in the manual. When adjusted, the lev=
er only moves about 1/16&quot; to engage OD. Regards, Hank<br><br><div></di=
v><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: &quot;healeymanjim&=
quot; <u></u><br>To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&quot;<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Saturday July=
 10 2021 7:53:21PM<br>Subject: [Healeys] o/d<br><br>
for a few months i have been struggling with an overdrive that
fails to engage with the solenoid (new one) but will engage if<br>
i push on the right side setting lever. made many different
adjustments and none worked. solenoid will instantly lift the<br>
left side adjusting arm as long as there is no oil pressure. it
will not lift the adjustment arm more than a few millimeters<br>
when car is moving. we had removed the solenoid bracket and
replaced a gasket. not sure what could have happened but<br>
trans and o/d are now separated on my workbench and i can see
nothing wrong anywhere. checked and reseated ball on<br>
oil pump and found no grit or dirt. small accumulator piston moves
up and down inside housing assembly. there were no<br>
problems with overdrive until gasket change. any help
appreciated.<br>
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