Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1/BN2 rear springs vs BN4 and later

From: Alan Seigrist via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 09:37:41 +0800

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I take offense that Austin engineers were "penny pinchers"!  I can assert
that in my Austin A90 Atlantic, penny pinching was the furthest thing from
their mind.

But then again I agree, by the time they got to the BJ8 there was alot of
penny pinching going on.... probably the worst of it was not upgrading the
exhaust mounts to something that actually holds on to the exhaust!

Cheers,

Alan

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:38 AM Henry G Leach via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Richard-section L/9 in 100 workshop manual describes the springs and their
> differences. There were three types- A,B & C with the C being used on the
> later cars up to BJ7-8.  They go from neg camber to pos and back to neg,
> but the double loop eye is the most important feature.
>
> FYI, I had springs rebuilt at the shop in Portland, but be aware that the
> original thickness (.055, I believe) shackle is no longer available and
> they now use .066.  This stack may be too strong for Healeys. and changes
> the stiffness rate and ride height. I kept my original main leaf, and had
> them rebuild the balance with the thicker, so it still fit the clamps and
> has a good ride height.
>
> These old cars had materials that just don't exist today, so you have to
> be careful what you replace parts with...have seen many issues with "exact
> replacement" items and Moss is at the top of the list!
>
> Remember, Austin Design Department were real penny pinchers and specified
> the minimum whenever they could. Regards, Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "richard mayor via Healeys"
> To: "healeys"
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday July 12 2021 6:10:01PM
> Subject: [Healeys] BN1/BN2 rear springs vs BN4 and later
>
> What is the difference in rear springs between BN1/BN2  and the later
> cars.  Moss wants $30 more per spring for the later springs.  That's $149
> vs $119.  Different length?  Different camber?
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I take offense that Austin engineers were &quot;penny pinc=
hers&quot;!=C2=A0 I can assert=C2=A0 that in my Austin A90 Atlantic, penny =
pinching was the furthest thing from their mind.<div><br></div><div>But the=
n again I agree, by the time they got to the BJ8 there was alot of penny pi=
nching going on.... probably the worst of it was not upgrading the exhaust =
mounts to something that actually holds on to the exhaust!</div><div><br></=
div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at=
 3:38 AM Henry G Leach via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Richard-section L/9 in 100 workshop manual=
 describes the springs and their differences. There were three types- A,B &=
amp; C with the C being used on the later cars up to BJ7-8.=C2=A0 They go f=
rom neg camber to pos and back to neg, but the double loop eye is the most =
important feature.<div><br></div><div>FYI, I had springs rebuilt at the sho=
p in Portland, but be aware that the original thickness (.055, I believe) s=
hackle is no longer available and they now use .066.=C2=A0 This stack may b=
e too strong for Healeys. and changes the stiffness rate and ride height. I=
 kept my original main leaf, and had them rebuild the balance with the thic=
ker, so it still fit the clamps and has a good ride height.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>These old cars had materials that just don&#39;t exist today, so =
you have to be careful what you replace parts with...have seen many issues =
with &quot;exact replacement&quot; items and Moss is at the top of the list=
!=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Remember, Austin Design Department were re=
al penny pinchers and specified the minimum whenever they could. Regards, H=
ank<br><br><div></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From:=
 &quot;richard mayor via Healeys&quot; <u></u><br>To: &quot;healeys&quot;<b=
r>Cc: <br>Sent: Monday July 12 2021 6:10:01PM<br>Subject: [Healeys] BN1/BN2=
 rear springs vs BN4 and later<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">What is the difference in rear springs between
BN1/BN2=C2=A0 and the later cars.=C2=A0 Moss wants $30 more per
spring for the later springs.=C2=A0 That&#39;s $149 vs $119.=C2=A0
Different length?=C2=A0 Different camber?<br></div>
<u></u></div></div>
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From: Michael MacLean via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 00:26:57 -0700

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This is what I got for my BN2 restoration.

https://britishclassiccarparts.com/collections/suspension/products/100-bn2-heavy-duty-rear-leaf-spring-set

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:44 PM Alan Seigrist via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

>> Richard-section L/9 in 100 workshop manual describes the springs and
>> their differences. There were three types- A,B & C with the C being used on
>> the later cars up to BJ7-8.  They go from neg camber to pos and back to
>> neg, but the double loop eye is the most important feature.
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>This is what I got for my BN2 restoration.</div><div>=
<br></div><div><a href=3D"https://britishclassiccarparts.com/collections/su=
spension/products/100-bn2-heavy-duty-rear-leaf-spring-set">https://britishc=
lassiccarparts.com/collections/suspension/products/100-bn2-heavy-duty-rear-=
leaf-spring-set</a></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 6:44 PM Alan Seigrist via =
Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">I take offense that Austin engineers were &quot;penny pin=
chers&quot;!=C2=A0 I can assert=C2=A0 that in my Austin A90 Atlantic, penny=
 pinching was the furthest thing from their mind.<div><br></div><div>But th=
en again I agree, by the time they got to the BJ8 there was alot of penny p=
inching going on.... probably the worst of it was not upgrading the exhaust=
 mounts to something that actually holds on to the exhaust!</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 14, 2021=
 at 3:38 AM Henry G Leach via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Richard-section L/9 i=
n 100 workshop manual describes the springs and their differences. There we=
re three types- A,B &amp; C with the C being used on the later cars up to B=
J7-8.=C2=A0 They go from neg camber to pos and back to neg, but the double =
loop eye is the most important feature.<div><br></div><div>FYI, I had sprin=
gs rebuilt at the shop in Portland, but be aware that the original thicknes=
s (.055, I believe) shackle is no longer available and they now use .066.=
=C2=A0 This stack may be too strong for Healeys. and changes the stiffness =
rate and ride height. I kept my original main leaf, and had them rebuild th=
e balance with the thicker, so it still fit the clamps and has a good ride =
height.</div><div><br></div><div>These old cars had materials that just don=
&#39;t exist today, so you have to be careful what you replace parts with..=
.have seen many issues with &quot;exact replacement&quot; items and Moss is=
 at the top of the list!=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Remember, Austin De=
sign Department were real penny pinchers and specified the minimum whenever=
 they could. Regards, Hank<br><br><div></div><p>---------------------------=
--------------</p>From: &quot;richard mayor via Healeys&quot; <u></u><br>To=
: &quot;healeys&quot;<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Monday July 12 2021 6:10:01PM<br>Sub=
ject: [Healeys] BN1/BN2 rear springs vs BN4 and later<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">What is the difference in rear springs between
BN1/BN2=C2=A0 and the later cars.=C2=A0 Moss wants $30 more per
spring for the later springs.=C2=A0 That&#39;s $149 vs $119.=C2=A0
Different length?=C2=A0 Different camber?<br></div>
<u></u></div></div>
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