Subject: [Healeys] A90 Head Update

From: Alan Seigrist <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 15:23:34 +0800

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All -

Got the head off.  Sure enough the gasket blew between 3&4 .  some evidence
of gas flow between 1&2 as well.  Last pic is of me standing in the engine
compartment lifting the head off, just to make all of you jealous ... :D

Cheers,

Alan

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<div dir=3D"ltr">All -<div><br></div><div>Got the head off.=C2=A0 Sure enou=
gh the gasket blew between 3&amp;4 . =C2=A0some evidence of gas flow betwee=
n 1&amp;2 as well.=C2=A0 Last pic is of me standing in the engine compartme=
nt lifting the head off, just to make all of you jealous ... :D<br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Cheers,<br><br>Alan</div></div>

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Alan-two questions: do you know if the car overheated at any time=0Aafte=
r the replacement of the head?=0ASecondly, do you have any idea what tor=
que they used to tighten the=0Ahead, even if they did not go in order?=
=0AA couple of us, who have been doing this for awhile, decided on about=
=0A80 FT LBS. as max torque. There is no book spec. That is a spec for=
=0Athat size stud and nut. The tightening order in the workshop manual i=
s=0Astrictly adhered to, and the torque is brought up in 1/3 increments.=
=0AAgain, I sprayed both sides of my copper gasket with a light coating=
=0Aof Permatex copper seal.I used a Payen gasket which was marked=0Atop/=
front. Yea, the good old days...Hank=0A=0A=09---------------------------=
--------------From: "Alan Seigrist" =0ATo: "Bob Spidell"=0ACc: "Healey l=
ist"=0ASent: Tuesday February 2 2021 6:07:37PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys]=
 A90 Head Update=0A=0A  Hi Bob - =0A This gasket was put on the car only=
 about 5K miles ago if you can=0Abelieve it, but the car sat for about 1=
0 years afterwards... I've=0Achecked both the head and deck with a recti=
fier (see pic), both are=0Avery nicely flat and do not need to go to the=
 machinist. Both are flat=0Ato within 1/1000 on the surface... which is=
 less than the error on the=0Arectifier! =0A I have the previously remov=
ed very old copper gasket which I saved=0Aand it has no signs of gas lea=
king between cylinders compared to this=0Anewer gasket that I just remov=
ed. I discovered a few things:  =0A=0A=09* The old gasket is made with b=
etter quality, softer copper, and is=0Athicker than the newer gasket tha=
t was put on. The old gasket that=0Ashowed no problems is 1.8mm thick af=
ter being installed, the new=0Agasket that failed is 1.5mm thick after b=
eing installed. The old=0Agasket is very nicely marked as to orientation=
, directions, copper=0Acompression rings are thicker, etc., etc., Clearl=
y the older gasket=0Awas made to work in circumstances where the mating=
 surfaces weren't=0Aalways perfectly flat.=0A =09* I highly suspect the=
 mechanics that installed the head last time=0Adid not torque the head i=
n the proper sequence, quite possibly working=0Afrom the outside in. =0A=
 =09* The head stud mount holes on the deck were raised a bit in couple=
=0Aplaces and may have caused the head to deflect a little, possibly, bu=
t=0Athey don't seem to have been enough to make a difference... I have=
=0Aalready filed those holes down. Micheal Salter has told me to run a=
=0Acountersink to debur the hole.=0A=0AIt's a weird one, I think possibl=
y a combination of all three issues=0Aabove. Let's see how she goes afte=
r I finish the job. Ultimately one=0Athing I learned is I cannot anymore=
 rely on mechanics that I do not=0Aknow well to do work on my car... I e=
nd up having to redo everything. =0A Best,  =0A Alan    On 2/1/2021 11:2=
3 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:=0A > All -=0A >=0A > Got the head off. Sure e=
nough the gasket blew between 3&4 . some=0A > evidence of gas flow betwe=
en 1&2 as well. Last pic is of me=0Astanding=0A > in the engine compartm=
ent lifting the head off, just to make all of=0A > you jealous ... :D=0A=
 >=0A > Cheers,=0A >=0A > Alan=0A >=0A=0A ______________________________=
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<html><body>Alan-two questions: do you know if the car overheated at any=
 time after the replacement of the head?<div><br></div><div>Secondly, do=
 you have any idea what torque they used to tighten the head, even if th=
ey did not go in order?</div><div><br></div><div>A couple of us, who hav=
e been doing this for awhile, decided on about 80 FT LBS. as max torque.=
 There is no book spec. That is a spec for that size stud and nut. The t=
ightening order in the workshop manual is strictly adhered to, and the t=
orque is brought up in 1/3 increments.</div><div><br></div><div>Again, I=
 sprayed&nbsp; both sides of my copper gasket with a light coating of Pe=
rmatex copper seal.</div><div>I used a Payen gasket which was marked top=
/front. Yea, the good old days...Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-sig=
nature"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "Ala=
n Seigrist" <[email-masked]><br>To: "Bob Spidell"<br>Cc: "Healey l=
ist"<br>Sent: Tuesday February 2 2021 6:07:37PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys=
] A90 Head Update<br><br>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Bob=
 -=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>This gasket was put on the car only about 5K=
 miles ago if you=0Acan believe it, but the car sat for about 10 years=
=0Aafterwards...&nbsp; I've checked both the head and deck with a=0Arect=
ifier (see pic), both are very nicely flat and do not need to=0Ago to th=
e machinist.&nbsp; Both are flat to within 1/1000 on the=0Asurface... wh=
ich is less than the error on the rectifier!</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<=
div>I have the previously removed very old copper gasket which I=0Asaved=
 and it has no signs of gas leaking between cylinders compared=0Ato this=
 newer gasket that&nbsp;I just&nbsp;removed.&nbsp; I=0Adiscovered a few=
 things:</div>=0A<div>=0A<ol><li>The old gasket is made with better qual=
ity, softer copper, and=0Ais thicker than the newer gasket that was put=
 on.&nbsp; The old=0Agasket that showed no problems is 1.8mm thick after=
 being=0Ainstalled, the new gasket that failed is 1.5mm thick after bein=
g=0Ainstalled.&nbsp; The old gasket is very nicely&nbsp;marked as to=0Ao=
rientation, directions, copper compression rings are thicker,=0Aetc., et=
c.,&nbsp; Clearly the older gasket was made to work in=0Acircumstances w=
here the mating surfaces weren't always perfectly=0Aflat.</li>=0A<li>I h=
ighly suspect the mechanics that installed the head last=0Atime did not=
 torque the head in the proper sequence, quite possibly=0Aworking from t=
he outside in.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>=0A<li>The head stud mount holes on the d=
eck were raised a bit in=0Acouple places and may have caused the head to=
 deflect a little,=0Apossibly, but they don't seem to have been enough t=
o make a=0Adifference... I have already filed those holes down.&nbsp; Mi=
cheal=0ASalter has told me to run a countersink to debur the hole.</li>=
=0A</ol><div>It's a weird one, I think possibly a combination of all thr=
ee=0Aissues above.&nbsp; Let's see how she goes after I finish the=0Ajob=
.&nbsp; Ultimately one thing I learned is I cannot anymore rely=0Aon mec=
hanics that I do not know well to do work on my car... I end=0Aup having=
 to redo everything.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Best,</div>=0A</div>=
=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Alan</div>=0A</div>=0A<div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">=0A<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px .8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">=0AOn 2/1/202=
1 11:23 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:<br>=0A&gt; All -<br>=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt;=
 Got the head off.&nbsp; Sure enough the gasket blew between=0A3&amp;4 .=
 &nbsp;some<br>=0A&gt; evidence of gas flow between 1&amp;2 as well. Las=
t pic is of=0Ame standing<br>=0A&gt; in the engine compartment lifting t=
he head off, just to make=0Aall of<br>=0A&gt; you jealous ... :D<br>=0A&=
gt;<br>=0A&gt; Cheers,<br>=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt; Alan<br>=0A&gt;<br><br>=0A_=
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Alan-did not get another description from Permatex other than this=0Awhi=
ch, if true, addresses your concerns:=0APrev Product=0A=0APERMATEX=C2=AE=
 ULTRA RUBBER GASKET SEALANT & DRESSING=0A=0AUS PART NUMBER: 80697=0ACan=
ada Part Number: 58985=0A=0APERMATEX=C2=AE COPPER SPRAY-A-GASKET=C2=AE H=
I-TEMP SEALANT=0A=0A=09Category: Gasket Sealants [1]=0A=0A=09Fast-drying=
, metallic copper sealant helps dissipate heat, prevents=0Agasket burnou=
t and improves heat transfer. Fills minor surface=0Airregularities. Seal=
s instantly. Fills hot spots and surface=0Aimperfections. Temperature ra=
nge -50=C2=B0F to 500=C2=B0F (-45=C2=B0C to 260=C2=B0C);=0Aresists all t=
ypes of automotive fluids, especially gasoline. Level 3=0A=0A=09 Buy Onl=
ine [2]=0A=0A=09I did have to remove a head for another reason, which ha=
d this=0Acoating, and it was not a problem. I guess time and mileage wil=
l tell=0Ahow effective this product is. So far, I have been pleased to n=
ot have=0Aany issues with installed heads. Can't stress more strongly ho=
w=0Aoverheating is the death knell for these engines. Hank=0A=0A=09-----=
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-----------------------------------=0A=0A=09From: "Alan Seigrist"-------=
---To: [email-masked]=0ACc: "Bob Spidell", "Healey list"=0ASent: Tu=
esday February 2 2021 7:54:17PM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] A90 Head Update=
=0A=0A Hank - =0A Is the spray on sealant silicone, or is it a non harde=
ning kind like=0Ahylomar? I'm a little concerned to use this as it may m=
ake disassembly=0Adifficult later if I have to strip the engine down aga=
in. What is your=0Aexperience? =0A Thanks, =0A Alan  =0A On Wed, Feb 3,=
 2021 at 10:46 AM  wrote:=0A  Alan-two questions: do you know if the car=
 overheated at any time=0Aafter the replacement of the head? =0A Secondl=
y, do you have any idea what torque they used to tighten the=0Ahead, eve=
n if they did not go in order? =0A A couple of us, who have been doing t=
his for awhile, decided on about=0A80 FT LBS. as max torque. There is no=
 book spec. That is a spec for=0Athat size stud and nut. The tightening=
 order in the workshop manual is=0Astrictly adhered to, and the torque i=
s brought up in 1/3 increments. =0A Again, I sprayed both sides of my co=
pper gasket with a light coating=0Aof Permatex copper seal. I used a Pay=
en gasket which was marked=0Atop/front. Yea, the good old days...Hank=0A=
=0A=09----------------------------------------- From: "Alan Seigrist"=0A=
 To: "Bob Spidell"=0A Cc: "Healey list"=0A Sent: Tuesday February 2 2021=
 6:07:37PM=0A Subject: Re: [Healeys] A90 Head Update=0A=0A Hi Bob - =0A=
 This gasket was put on the car only about 5K miles ago if you can=0Abel=
ieve it, but the car sat for about 10 years afterwards... I've=0Achecked=
 both the head and deck with a rectifier (see pic), both are=0Avery nice=
ly flat and do not need to go to the machinist. Both are flat=0Ato withi=
n 1/1000 on the surface... which is less than the error on the=0Arectifi=
er! =0A I have the previously removed very old copper gasket which I sav=
ed=0Aand it has no signs of gas leaking between cylinders compared to th=
is=0Anewer gasket that I just removed. I discovered a few things:  =0A=
=0A=09* The old gasket is made with better quality, softer copper, and i=
s=0Athicker than the newer gasket that was put on. The old gasket that=
=0Ashowed no problems is 1.8mm thick after being installed, the new=0Aga=
sket that failed is 1.5mm thick after being installed. The old=0Agasket=
 is very nicely marked as to orientation, directions, copper=0Acompressi=
on rings are thicker, etc., etc., Clearly the older gasket=0Awas made to=
 work in circumstances where the mating surfaces weren't=0Aalways perfec=
tly flat.=0A =09* I highly suspect the mechanics that installed the head=
 last time=0Adid not torque the head in the proper sequence, quite possi=
bly working=0Afrom the outside in. =0A =09* The head stud mount holes on=
 the deck were raised a bit in couple=0Aplaces and may have caused the h=
ead to deflect a little, possibly, but=0Athey don't seem to have been en=
ough to make a difference... I have=0Aalready filed those holes down. Mi=
cheal Salter has told me to run a=0Acountersink to debur the hole.=0A=0A=
It's a weird one, I think possibly a combination of all three issues=0Aa=
bove. Let's see how she goes after I finish the job. Ultimately one=0Ath=
ing I learned is I cannot anymore rely on mechanics that I do not=0Aknow=
 well to do work on my car... I end up having to redo everything. =0A Be=
st,  =0A Alan    On 2/1/2021 11:23 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:=0A > All -=
=0A >=0A > Got the head off. Sure enough the gasket blew between 3&4 . s=
ome=0A > evidence of gas flow between 1&2 as well. Last pic is of me=0As=
tanding=0A > in the engine compartment lifting the head off, just to mak=
e all of=0A > you jealous ... :D=0A >=0A > Cheers,=0A >=0A > Alan=0A >=
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---------</p><p>From: "Alan Seigrist"----------</p><[email-masked]=
>To: [email-masked]<br>Cc: "Bob Spidell", "Healey list"<br>Sent: Tu=
esday February 2 2021 7:54:17PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] A90 Head Updat=
e<br><br>=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">Hank -=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Is the spra=
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p; I'm a little concerned to use this as it=0Amay make disassembly diffi=
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r experience?</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Thanks,</div>=0A<div><br></=
div>=0A<div>Alan</div>=0A</div>=0A<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=0A<div=
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(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">=0A<div>Alan-two questions: do you know=
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=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Secondly, do you have any idea what torque the=
y used to=0Atighten the head, even if they did not go in order?</div>=0A=
<div><br></div>=0A<div>A couple of us, who have been doing this for awhi=
le, decided=0Aon about 80 FT LBS. as max torque. There is no book spec.=
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e=0Aworkshop manual is strictly adhered to, and the torque is brought=0A=
up in 1/3 increments.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Again, I sprayed&nb=
sp; both sides of my copper gasket with a=0Alight coating of Permatex co=
pper seal.</div>=0A<div>I used a Payen gasket which was marked top/front=
. Yea, the=0Agood old days...Hank<br><br><p>----------------------------=
-------------</p>=0AFrom: "Alan Seigrist"<br>=0ATo: "Bob Spidell"<br>=0A=
Cc: "Healey list"<br>=0ASent: Tuesday February 2 2021 6:07:37PM<br>=0ASu=
bject: Re: [Healeys] A90 Head Update<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div dir=
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r only about 5K miles ago if you=0Acan believe it, but the car sat for a=
bout 10 years=0Aafterwards...&nbsp; I've checked both the head and deck=
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 to=0Ago to the machinist.&nbsp; Both are flat to within 1/1000 on the=
=0Asurface... which is less than the error on the rectifier!</div>=0A<di=
v><br></div>=0A<div>I have the previously removed very old copper gasket=
 which I=0Asaved and it has no signs of gas leaking between cylinders co=
mpared=0Ato this newer gasket that&nbsp;I just&nbsp;removed.&nbsp; I=0Ad=
iscovered a few things:</div>=0A<div>=0A<ol><li>The old gasket is made w=
ith better quality, softer copper, and=0Ais thicker than the newer gaske=
t that was put on.&nbsp; The old=0Agasket that showed no problems is 1.8=
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ick after being=0Ainstalled.&nbsp; The old gasket is very nicely&nbsp;ma=
rked as to=0Aorientation, directions, copper compression rings are thick=
er,=0Aetc., etc.,&nbsp; Clearly the older gasket was made to work in=0Ac=
ircumstances where the mating surfaces weren't always perfectly=0Aflat.<=
/li>=0A<li>I highly suspect the mechanics that installed the head last=
=0Atime did not torque the head in the proper sequence, quite possibly=
=0Aworking from the outside in.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li>=0A<li>The head stud mou=
nt holes on the deck were raised a bit in=0Acouple places and may have c=
aused the head to deflect a little,=0Apossibly, but they don't seem to h=
ave been enough to make a=0Adifference... I have already filed those hol=
es down.&nbsp; Micheal=0ASalter has told me to run a countersink to debu=
r the hole.</li>=0A</ol><div>It's a weird one, I think possibly a combin=
ation of all three=0Aissues above.&nbsp; Let's see how she goes after I=
 finish the=0Ajob.&nbsp; Ultimately one thing I learned is I cannot anym=
ore rely=0Aon mechanics that I do not know well to do work on my car...=
 I end=0Aup having to redo everything.</div>=0A<div><br></div>=0A<div>Be=
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ex;">=0AOn 2/1/2021 11:23 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:<br>=0A&gt; All -<br>=
=0A&gt;<br>=0A&gt; Got the head off.&nbsp; Sure enough the gasket blew b=
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amp;2 as well. Last pic is of=0Ame standing<br>=0A&gt; in the engine com=
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Mike MacLean

    On Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 9:27:07 AM PST, <[email-masked]> w=
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 Alan-did not get another description from Permatex other than this which, =
if true, addresses your concerns:
Prev Product
Permatex=C2=AE=C2=A0Ultra Rubber Gasket Sealant & Dressing
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Permatex=C2=AE=C2=A0Copper Spray-A-Gasket=C2=AE=C2=A0Hi-Temp Sealant

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=C2=A0Buy Online

I did have to remove a head for another reason, which had this coating, and=
 it was not a problem.=C2=A0 I guess time and mileage will tell how effecti=
ve this product is. So far, I have been pleased to not have any issues with=
 installed heads.=C2=A0 Can't stress more strongly how overheating is the d=
eath knell for these engines. Hank

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From: "Alan Seigrist"----------
 To: [email-masked]
Cc: "Bob Spidell", "Healey list"
Sent: Tuesday February 2 2021 7:54:17PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] A90 Head Update

Hank -
Is the spray on sealant silicone, or is it a non hardeningkind like hylomar=
?=C2=A0 I'm a little concerned to use this as itmay make disassembly diffic=
ult later if I have to strip the enginedown again.=C2=A0 What is your exper=
ience?
Thanks,
Alan
On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 10:46 AM<[email-masked]>wrote:

Alan-two questions: do you know if the car overheated at anytime after the =
replacement of the head?
Secondly, do you have any idea what torque they used totighten the head, ev=
en if they did not go in order?
A couple of us, who have been doing this for awhile, decidedon about 80 FT =
LBS. as max torque. There is no book spec. That is aspec for that size stud=
 and nut. The tightening order in theworkshop manual is strictly adhered to=
, and the torque is broughtup in 1/3 increments.
Again, I sprayed=C2=A0 both sides of my copper gasket with alight coating o=
f Permatex copper seal.I used a Payen gasket which was marked top/front. Ye=
a, thegood old days...Hank

-----------------------------------------
From: "Alan Seigrist"
To: "Bob Spidell"
Cc: "Healey list"
Sent: Tuesday February 2 2021 6:07:37PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] A90 Head Update

Hi Bob -
This gasket was put on the car only about 5K miles ago if youcan believe it=
, but the car sat for about 10 yearsafterwards...=C2=A0 I've checked both t=
he head and deck with arectifier (see pic), both are very nicely flat and d=
o not need togo to the machinist.=C2=A0 Both are flat to within 1/1000 on t=
hesurface... which is less than the error on the rectifier!
I have the previously removed very old copper gasket which Isaved and it ha=
s no signs of gas leaking between cylinders comparedto this newer gasket th=
at=C2=A0I just=C2=A0removed.=C2=A0 Idiscovered a few things:  =20
   - The old gasket is made with better quality, softer copper, andis thick=
er than the newer gasket that was put on.=C2=A0 The oldgasket that showed n=
o problems is 1.8mm thick after beinginstalled, the new gasket that failed =
is 1.5mm thick after beinginstalled.=C2=A0 The old gasket is very nicely=C2=
=A0marked as toorientation, directions, copper compression rings are thicke=
r,etc., etc.,=C2=A0 Clearly the older gasket was made to work incircumstanc=
es where the mating surfaces weren't always perfectlyflat.
   - I highly suspect the mechanics that installed the head lasttime did no=
t torque the head in the proper sequence, quite possiblyworking from the ou=
tside in.=C2=A0=C2=A0
   - The head stud mount holes on the deck were raised a bit incouple place=
s and may have caused the head to deflect a little,possibly, but they don't=
 seem to have been enough to make adifference... I have already filed those=
 holes down.=C2=A0 MichealSalter has told me to run a countersink to debur =
the hole.
It's a weird one, I think possibly a combination of all threeissues above.=
=C2=A0 Let's see how she goes after I finish thejob.=C2=A0 Ultimately one t=
hing I learned is I cannot anymore relyon mechanics that I do not know well=
 to do work on my car... I endup having to redo everything.
Best,
Alan
On 2/1/2021 11:23 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:
> All -
>
> Got the head off.=C2=A0 Sure enough the gasket blew between3&4 . =C2=A0so=
me
> evidence of gas flow between 1&2 as well. Last pic is ofme standing
> in the engine compartment lifting the head off, just to makeall of
> you jealous ... :D
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan
>

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----------------------------------</p><p>From: "Alan Seigrist"----------</p=
> To: [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none">Cc: "Bob Spidell", "Healey list=
"<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Tuesday February 2 2021 7:54:17PM<br clear=3D"non=
e">Subject: Re: [Healeys] A90 Head Update<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"no=
ne">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hank -
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Is the spray on sealant silicone, or is it a non hardening
kind like hylomar?&nbsp; I'm a little concerned to use this as it
may make disassembly difficult later if I have to strip the engine
down again.&nbsp; What is your experience?</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Alan</div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv9252856041yqt2253306643" id=3D"yiv92528=
56041yqt06816"><div class=3D"yiv9252856041gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"yiv9252856041gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1=
0:46 AM
&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">gradea1=
@charter.net</a>&gt;
wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
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.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
<div>Alan-two questions: do you know if the car overheated at any
time after the replacement of the head?
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Secondly, do you have any idea what torque they used to
tighten the head, even if they did not go in order?</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>A couple of us, who have been doing this for awhile, decided
on about 80 FT LBS. as max torque. There is no book spec. That is a
spec for that size stud and nut. The tightening order in the
workshop manual is strictly adhered to, and the torque is brought
up in 1/3 increments.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Again, I sprayed&nbsp; both sides of my copper gasket with a
light coating of Permatex copper seal.</div>
<div>I used a Payen gasket which was marked top/front. Yea, the
good old days...Hank<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><p>--------------=
---------------------------</p>
From: "Alan Seigrist"<br clear=3D"none">
To: "Bob Spidell"<br clear=3D"none">
Cc: "Healey list"<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Tuesday February 2 2021 6:07:37PM<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Healeys] A90 Head Update<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Bob -
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>This gasket was put on the car only about 5K miles ago if you
can believe it, but the car sat for about 10 years
afterwards...&nbsp; I've checked both the head and deck with a
rectifier (see pic), both are very nicely flat and do not need to
go to the machinist.&nbsp; Both are flat to within 1/1000 on the
surface... which is less than the error on the rectifier!</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>I have the previously removed very old copper gasket which I
saved and it has no signs of gas leaking between cylinders compared
to this newer gasket that&nbsp;I just&nbsp;removed.&nbsp; I
discovered a few things:</div>
<div>
<ol><li>The old gasket is made with better quality, softer copper, and
is thicker than the newer gasket that was put on.&nbsp; The old
gasket that showed no problems is 1.8mm thick after being
installed, the new gasket that failed is 1.5mm thick after being
installed.&nbsp; The old gasket is very nicely&nbsp;marked as to
orientation, directions, copper compression rings are thicker,
etc., etc.,&nbsp; Clearly the older gasket was made to work in
circumstances where the mating surfaces weren't always perfectly
flat.</li><li>I highly suspect the mechanics that installed the head last
time did not torque the head in the proper sequence, quite possibly
working from the outside in.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>The head stud mount holes =
on the deck were raised a bit in
couple places and may have caused the head to deflect a little,
possibly, but they don't seem to have been enough to make a
difference... I have already filed those holes down.&nbsp; Micheal
Salter has told me to run a countersink to debur the hole.</li></ol><div>It=
's a weird one, I think possibly a combination of all three
issues above.&nbsp; Let's see how she goes after I finish the
job.&nbsp; Ultimately one thing I learned is I cannot anymore rely
on mechanics that I do not know well to do work on my car... I end
up having to redo everything.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Best,</div>
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div>Alan</div>
</div>
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On 2/1/2021 11:23 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
&gt; All -<br clear=3D"none">
&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
&gt; Got the head off.&nbsp; Sure enough the gasket blew between
3&amp;4 . &nbsp;some<br clear=3D"none">
&gt; evidence of gas flow between 1&amp;2 as well. Last pic is of
me standing<br clear=3D"none">
&gt; in the engine compartment lifting the head off, just to make
all of<br clear=3D"none">
&gt; you jealous ... :D<br clear=3D"none">
&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
&gt; Cheers,<br clear=3D"none">
&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
&gt; Alan<br clear=3D"none">
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