Subject: Re: [Healeys] Caswell zinc plating kit

From: John Vrugtman <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 11:48:08 -0500

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I used Caswell's zinc kit for several years on three projects.  I did 
most of the setup myself, using only the chemicals.  Worked quite well 
for small parts, hardware and things like relay covers. for prolonging 
the look you can use a clear coat over it.  Like most things it has a 
learning curve.

John
64/66 BJ8s

On 2/24/2021 9:08 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:
> Has anyone have experience with these?  Are these kits worth it?  Is 
> the zinc plating decent enough?
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    I used Caswell's zinc kit for several years on three projects.  I
    did most of the setup myself, using only the chemicals.  Worked
    quite well for small parts, hardware and things like relay covers. 
    for prolonging the look you can use a clear coat over it.  Like most
    things it has a learning curve.<br>
    <br>
    John<br>
    64/66 BJ8s<br>
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From: Curtis Arndt via Healeys <[email-masked]>
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Alan,

I used Caswell "Copy Cad" for years, and while the results were very good,
it took a learning curve to get there, *and it was very time consuming*.

In the end, I took my large buckets of clean wire brushed fasteners for my
BN1 restoration to Burbank Plating and had them all done in white Cadmium.
White Cad not only gives the same look as Zinc done 60+ years ago, it's
four times more rust resistant.

Now Burbank normally does not do fasteners for car hobbyists as people
still think they can bring in a rusty coffee can full of crappy rusty
fasteners and have them come back looking like new for $20.  Those days are
long gone.  They do mostly contract, new production fasteners.

I brought in a more than 'full" five gallon bucket of fasteners (more like
six plus gallons) that were all derusted, cleaned, inspected (threads and
heads were all good) and wire brushed... They were pristine. The owner said
that he would love to do them for me, *and only because I gave him
fasteners worthy of the time and effort to replate*. They individually
wired ALL of the fasteners down to the smallest ones, and did not lose
one!  They even did my excellent condition, original brake and fuel lines.
At $600 it wasn't cheap, but a deal and worth every dollar spent.

BTW They do ALL of the fastener plating for Jay Leno's cars.  FWIW, the
owner is a 6' 3" blond haired and bearded 30 something gentleman who looks
like a Northwest or Canadian lumberjack.

BTW their shop is immaculate, yes imagine a plating shop that looks that
good, and try as they might, the A$$HOLE EPA inspectors have not been able
to find any violations in their procedures.

Cheers,

Curt

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 8:49 AM John Vrugtman <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I used Caswell's zinc kit for several years on three projects.  I did most
> of the setup myself, using only the chemicals.  Worked quite well for small
> parts, hardware and things like relay covers.  for prolonging the look you
> can use a clear coat over it.  Like most things it has a learning curve.
>
> John
> 64/66 BJ8s
>
> Has anyone have experience with these?  Are these kits worth it?  Is the
> zinc plating decent enough?
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Alan,<div><br></div><div>I used Caswell &quot;Copy Cad&quo=
t; for years, and while the results were very good, it took a learning curv=
e to get there, <u>and=C2=A0it was very time consuming</u>.<div><br></div><=
div>In the end, I took my large buckets of clean wire brushed fasteners for=
 my BN1 restoration to Burbank Plating and had them all done in white Cadmi=
um.=C2=A0 White Cad not only gives=C2=A0the same look as Zinc=C2=A0done 60+=
 years ago, it&#39;s four times more rust resistant.=C2=A0</div><div><br></=
div><div>Now Burbank normally does not do fasteners for car hobbyists=C2=A0=
as people still think they can bring=C2=A0in a rusty coffee can full of cra=
ppy rusty fasteners=C2=A0and have them come back looking like new for $20.=
=C2=A0 Those days are long gone.=C2=A0 They do mostly contract, new product=
ion fasteners.</div></div><div><br></div><div>I brought in a more than &#39=
;full&quot; five gallon bucket of fasteners (more like six plus gallons) th=
at were all derusted, cleaned, inspected (threads and heads were all good) =
and wire brushed... They were pristine. The owner said that he would love t=
o do them for me, <u>and only because I gave him fasteners worthy of the ti=
me and effort to replate</u>. They individually wired ALL of the fasteners=
=C2=A0down to the smallest ones, and did not lose one!=C2=A0 They even did =
my excellent=C2=A0condition, original brake and fuel lines.=C2=A0 At $600 i=
t wasn&#39;t cheap, but a deal and worth every dollar spent.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>BTW They do=C2=A0ALL of the fastener plating=C2=A0for Jay Leno&#=
39;s cars.=C2=A0 FWIW, the owner is a 6&#39; 3&quot; blond haired and beard=
ed 30 something gentleman=C2=A0who looks like a Northwest or Canadian lumbe=
rjack.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW their shop is immaculate, yes imagine a=
 plating shop that looks that good, and=C2=A0try as they might, the A$$HOLE=
 EPA inspectors have not been able to find any violations in their procedur=
es.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Curt</div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 8:49 AM John Vrugtman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:javrugtman=
@htcnet.org">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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    I used Caswell&#39;s zinc kit for several years on three projects.=C2=
=A0 I
    did most of the setup myself, using only the chemicals.=C2=A0 Worked
    quite well for small parts, hardware and things like relay covers.=C2=
=A0
    for prolonging the look you can use a clear coat over it.=C2=A0 Like mo=
st
    things it has a learning curve.<br>
    <br>
    John<br>
    64/66 BJ8s<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 2/24/2021 9:08 PM, Alan Seigrist via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
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      <div dir=3D"ltr">Has anyone have experience with these?=C2=A0 Are the=
se
        kits worth it?=C2=A0 Is the zinc plating decent enough?</div>
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From: richard mayor <[email-masked]>
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I second the notion of using the white cadmium plating. I did the same
thing here in Portland a few years back with a 5 gallon bucket of
fasteners. There are economies of scale so if you go that route so do as
many fasteners and small brackets as you can at that one time.  I think the
white cad is so much more pleasing to the eye than today's zinc plating.

My pro.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 11:05 AM Curtis Arndt via Healeys <
[email-masked]> wrote:

>> most of the setup myself, using only the chemicals.  Worked quite well for
>> small parts, hardware and things like relay covers.  for prolonging the
>> look you can use a clear coat over it.  Like most things it has a learning
>> curve.
>>
>> John
>> 64/66 BJ8s
>>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I second the notion of using the white cadmium platin=
g. I did the same thing here in Portland a few years back with a 5 gallon b=
ucket of fasteners. There are economies of scale so if you go that route so=
 do as many fasteners and small brackets as you can at that one time.=C2=A0=
 I think the white cad is so much more pleasing to the eye than today&#39;s=
 zinc plating.<br></div><div><br></div><div>My pro.=C2=A0 </div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb=
 25, 2021 at 11:05 AM Curtis Arndt via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healey=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Alan,<div><br></di=
v><div>I used Caswell &quot;Copy Cad&quot; for years, and while the results=
 were very good, it took a learning curve to get there, <u>and=C2=A0it was =
very time consuming</u>.<div><br></div><div>In the end, I took my large buc=
kets of clean wire brushed fasteners for my BN1 restoration to Burbank Plat=
ing and had them all done in white Cadmium.=C2=A0 White Cad not only gives=
=C2=A0the same look as Zinc=C2=A0done 60+ years ago, it&#39;s four times mo=
re rust resistant.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Now Burbank normally does=
 not do fasteners for car hobbyists=C2=A0as people still think they can bri=
ng=C2=A0in a rusty coffee can full of crappy rusty fasteners=C2=A0and have =
them come back looking like new for $20.=C2=A0 Those days are long gone.=C2=
=A0 They do mostly contract, new production fasteners.</div></div><div><br>=
</div><div>I brought in a more than &#39;full&quot; five gallon bucket of f=
asteners (more like six plus gallons) that were all derusted, cleaned, insp=
ected (threads and heads were all good) and wire brushed... They were prist=
ine. The owner said that he would love to do them for me, <u>and only becau=
se I gave him fasteners worthy of the time and effort to replate</u>. They =
individually wired ALL of the fasteners=C2=A0down to the smallest ones, and=
 did not lose one!=C2=A0 They even did my excellent=C2=A0condition, origina=
l brake and fuel lines.=C2=A0 At $600 it wasn&#39;t cheap, but a deal and w=
orth every dollar spent.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW They do=C2=A0ALL of t=
he fastener plating=C2=A0for Jay Leno&#39;s cars.=C2=A0 FWIW, the owner is =
a 6&#39; 3&quot; blond haired and bearded 30 something gentleman=C2=A0who l=
ooks like a Northwest or Canadian lumberjack.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW =
their shop is immaculate, yes imagine a plating shop that looks that good, =
and=C2=A0try as they might, the A$$HOLE EPA inspectors have not been able t=
o find any violations in their procedures.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,=
</div><div><br></div><div>Curt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 8:49 AM John Vr=
ugtman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">javru=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex">
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  <div>
    I used Caswell&#39;s zinc kit for several years on three projects.=C2=
=A0 I
    did most of the setup myself, using only the chemicals.=C2=A0 Worked
    quite well for small parts, hardware and things like relay covers.=C2=
=A0
    for prolonging the look you can use a clear coat over it.=C2=A0 Like mo=
st
    things it has a learning curve.<br>
    <br>
    John<br>
    64/66 BJ8s<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 2/24/2021 9:08 PM, Alan Seigrist via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Has anyone have experience with these?=C2=A0 Are the=
se
        kits worth it?=C2=A0 Is the zinc plating decent enough?</div>
      <br>
      <fieldset></fieldset>
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