Subject: Re: [Healeys] Re - Fender screws

From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 17:02:39 +1300

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I don't think so Mike. I've only worked on a couple of original BN2s and as
far as I could tell BA screws, if there were any, were few and far between.

M

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 3:13 PM Mike MacLean, <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Would the 2ba screws still be used on a late (56) BN2?
> Mike M
>
> On Feb 21, 2019 3:00 PM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> I believe that this subject has been studied in depth by Curt Arndt so he
> is the real expert however, here is something that may help.
> The 100/6 parts book lists 4 screws to secure the rear quarter panels to
> the inner sill (at the bottom).
> The part number is *PMN0310* meaning, I believe, 3/16 diameter x 10
> sixteenths long and the description is *Screws N0. 10 U.N.F x 5/8"*
>
> *https://lbcdigital.com/bmc_publications/akd1423/
> <https://lbcdigital.com/bmc_publications/akd1423/>*
> I'm aware that the 100 used many 2BA screws which seemed to slowly be
> replaced with #10/32 screws as the years went by.
> My very early 100 had a lot of 2BA but also many 10/32.
>
> M
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 10:55 AM mike brooks <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
> I hesitate to write this as I am effectively arguing with people far more
> knowledgeable than I am. However, I have several times noticed that people
> are saying that 10 32 bolts or screws were used on Healeys when I know they
> are actually 2BA. Although UK started using UNC and UNF bolts and screws as
> Whitworth and BSF went out of fashion ( and prior to metrication), the
> small  Unified sizes that had numerical- only designations (like 8, 10)
> were very rarely used in the UK, where we carried on with BA for the
> smaller sizes.
>
> Rgds
>
> Mike Brooks
> BN2 Scotland
>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">I don&#39;t think so Mike. I&#39;ve onl=
y worked on a couple of original BN2s and as far as I could tell BA screws,=
 if there were any, were few and far between.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 3:13 PM Mike MacLean, &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Would the 2ba screws still be used=
 on a late (56) BN2?<div dir=3D"auto">Mike M</div></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Feb 21, 2019 3:00 PM, Michael Sal=
ter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noref=
errer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"m_1138405076983043492m_573557=
0608654066209m_7687491638545386083quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v style=3D"font-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:small">=
Hi Mike,</div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;=
font-size:small">I believe that this subject has been studied in depth by C=
urt Arndt so he is the real expert however, here is something that may help=
.</div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:small">The 100/6 parts book lists 4 screws to secure the rear quarter pa=
nels to the inner sill (at the bottom).</div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39=
;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:small">The part number is <i><b>PM=
N0310</b></i> meaning, I believe, 3/16 diameter x 10 sixteenths long and th=
e description is <i><b>Screws N0. 10 U.N.F x 5/8&quot;</b></i></div><div st=
yle=3D"font-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:small"><i><=
b><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,255)"><a href=3D"https://lbcdigital.com/bmc_=
publications/akd1423/" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">https://lbcdigital.com/bmc_publications/akd1423/</a></span><br></b><=
/i></div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-=
size:small">I&#39;m aware that the 100 used many 2BA screws which seemed to=
 slowly be replaced with #10/32 screws as the years went by. <br></div><div=
 style=3D"font-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:small">M=
y very early 100 had a lot of 2BA but also many 10/32.</div><div style=3D"f=
ont-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:small"=
>M<br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"m_1138405076983043492m_5735570608=
654066209m_7687491638545386083elided-text"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Feb 22,=
 2019 at 10:55 AM mike brooks &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">hypercubic@yaho=
o.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I hesitate to w=
rite this as I am effectively arguing with people far more knowledgeable th=
an I am. However, I have several times noticed that people are saying that =
10 32 bolts or screws were used on Healeys when I know they are actually 2B=
A. Although UK started using UNC and UNF bolts and screws as Whitworth and =
BSF went out of fashion ( and prior to metrication), the small =C2=A0Unifie=
d sizes that had numerical- only designations (like 8, 10) were very rarely=
 used in the UK, where we carried on with BA for the smaller sizes.<div><br=
></div><div>Rgds</div><div><br></div><div>Mike Brooks</div><div>BN2 Scotlan=
d<br><br><div><a href=3D"https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DInProduct&am=
p;c=3DGlobal_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=3Dym&=
amp;af_sub1=3DInternal&amp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=3DEmailSign=
ature" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">Sent from=
 Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div></div></blockquote></div>
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From: mike brooks <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 08:09:48 +0000 (UTC)

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Hi Michael and Mike
The parts list for the 100/6 is clear that the small size unified threads w=
ere being used on it so I'm wrong there However, the last two jobs I've don=
e recently on my 56 BN2 were the windscreen and the carburetters - all BA t=
hreads.
Mike

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  On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 at 2:13 am, Mike MacLean<[email-masked]> wro=
te:   Would the 2ba screws still be used on a late (56) BN2?Mike M
On Feb 21, 2019 3:00 PM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]> wrote:

Hi Mike,I believe that this subject has been studied in depth by Curt Arndt=
 so he is the real expert however, here is something that may help.The 100/=
6 parts book lists 4 screws to secure the rear quarter panels to the inner =
sill (at the bottom).The part number is PMN0310 meaning, I believe, 3/16 di=
ameter x 10 sixteenths long and the description is Screws N0. 10 U.N.F x 5/=
8"https://lbcdigital.com/bmc_publications/akd1423/
I'm aware that the 100 used many 2BA screws which seemed to slowly be repla=
ced with #10/32 screws as the years went by.=20
My very early 100 had a lot of 2BA but also many 10/32.
M

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 10:55 AM mike brooks <[email-masked]> wrote=
:

I hesitate to write this as I am effectively arguing with people far more k=
nowledgeable than I am. However, I have several times noticed that people a=
re saying that 10 32 bolts or screws were used on Healeys when I know they =
are actually 2BA. Although UK started using UNC and UNF bolts and screws as=
 Whitworth and BSF went out of fashion ( and prior to metrication), the sma=
ll =C2=A0Unified sizes that had numerical- only designations (like 8, 10) w=
ere very rarely used in the UK, where we carried on with BA for the smaller=
 sizes.
Rgds
Mike BrooksBN2 Scotland

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Hi Michael and Mike<div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1550822698224"><br=
></div><div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1550822700926">The parts list =
for the 100/6 is clear that the small size unified threads were being used =
on it so I'm wrong there However, the last two jobs I've done recently on m=
y 56 BN2 were the windscreen and the carburetters - all BA threads.</div><d=
iv id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1550822934322"><br></div><div id=3D"yMa=
il_cursorElementTracker_1550822936274">Mike<br><br><div id=3D"ymail_android=
_signature"><a href=3D"https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DInProduct&amp;=
c=3DGlobal_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=3Dym&am=
p;af_sub1=3DInternal&amp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=3DEmailSignat=
ure">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div> <br> <blockquote style=3D"ma=
rgin: 0 0 20px 0;"> <div style=3D"font-family:Roboto, sans-serif; color:#6D=
00F6;"> <div>On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 at 2:13 am, Mike MacLean</div><div>&lt;rre=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</div> </div> <div style=3D"padding: 10px 0 =
0 20px; margin: 10px 0 0 0; border-left: 1px solid #6D00F6;"> <div id=3D"yi=
v6301328994"><div><div>Would the 2ba screws still be used on a late (56) BN=
2?<div>Mike M</div></div><div class=3D"yiv6301328994yqt9993860788 yQTDBase"=
 id=3D"yiv6301328994yqt58621"><div class=3D"yiv6301328994gmail_extra"><br c=
lear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv6301328994gmail_quote">On Feb 21, 2019 3:00 =
PM, Michael Salter &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none=
"><blockquote class=3D"yiv6301328994quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms' , sans-serif;font-size:small;">Hi=
 Mike,</div><div style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms' , sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small;">I believe that this subject has been studied in depth by Curt Arn=
dt so he is the real expert however, here is something that may help.</div>=
<div style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms' , sans-serif;font-size:small;">Th=
e 100/6 parts book lists 4 screws to secure the rear quarter panels to the =
inner sill (at the bottom).</div><div style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms' =
, sans-serif;font-size:small;">The part number is <i><b>PMN0310</b></i> mea=
ning, I believe, 3/16 diameter x 10 sixteenths long and the description is =
<i><b>Screws N0. 10 U.N.F x 5/8"</b></i></div><div style=3D"font-family:'co=
mic sans ms' , sans-serif;font-size:small;"><i><b><span style=3D"color:rgb(=
 0 , 0 , 255 );"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://lbcdigital.com/bmc_publications/akd1423/">https://lbcdigital.co=
m/bmc_publications/akd1423/</a></span><br clear=3D"none"></b></i></div><div=
 style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms' , sans-serif;font-size:small;">I'm aw=
are that the 100 used many 2BA screws which seemed to slowly be replaced wi=
th #10/32 screws as the years went by. <br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=
=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms' , sans-serif;font-size:small;">My very earl=
y 100 had a lot of 2BA but also many 10/32.</div><div style=3D"font-family:=
'comic sans ms' , sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms' , sans-serif;font-size:small;">M<br =
clear=3D"none"></div></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv630132=
8994elided-text"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 10:55 AM mike bro=
oks &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:hypercubic@yah=
oo.co.uk" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">hypercub=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );paddi=
ng-left:1ex;">I hesitate to write this as I am effectively arguing with peo=
ple far more knowledgeable than I am. However, I have several times noticed=
 that people are saying that 10 32 bolts or screws were used on Healeys whe=
n I know they are actually 2BA. Although UK started using UNC and UNF bolts=
 and screws as Whitworth and BSF went out of fashion ( and prior to metrica=
tion), the small &nbsp;Unified sizes that had numerical- only designations =
(like 8, 10) were very rarely used in the UK, where we carried on with BA f=
or the smaller sizes.<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Rgds</div><div><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div>Mike Brooks</div><div>BN2 Scotland<br clear=3D"no=
ne"><br clear=3D"none"><div><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DInProduct&amp;c=3DGloba=
l_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=3Dym&amp;af_sub1=
=3DInternal&amp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=3DEmailSignature">Sent=
 from Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div></div></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div></div> </div> </blo=
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From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 22:12:06 +1300

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Absolutely correct Mike.
The carburetors (made by SU) and everything electrical (made by Lucas)
retained their BSF, BSW and BA thread systems right to the end in 1967 ...
and thereafter in other makes.
The 100 windshield was also something that used BSF and BA threads until
the end of BN2 production.

M

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 9:09 PM mike brooks, <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Hi Michael and Mike
>
> The parts list for the 100/6 is clear that the small size unified threads
> were being used on it so I'm wrong there However, the last two jobs I've
> done recently on my 56 BN2 were the windscreen and the carburetters - all
> BA threads.
>
> Mike
>
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 at 2:13 am, Mike MacLean
> <[email-masked]> wrote:

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Absolutely correct Mike.</div><div dir=3D"auto">The =
carburetors (made by SU) and everything electrical (made by Lucas) retained=
 their BSF, BSW and BA thread systems right to the end in 1967 ... and ther=
eafter in other makes.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">The 100 windshield was =
also something that used BSF and BA threads until the end of BN2 production=
.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M<br><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Fe=
b 22, 2019, 9:09 PM mike brooks, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
uk" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Michael and Mike<div id=3D"m=
_-6614770113798806734m_6338142460873820609yMail_cursorElementTracker_155082=
2698224"><br></div><div id=3D"m_-6614770113798806734m_6338142460873820609yM=
ail_cursorElementTracker_1550822700926">The parts list for the 100/6 is cle=
ar that the small size unified threads were being used on it so I&#39;m wro=
ng there However, the last two jobs I&#39;ve done recently on my 56 BN2 wer=
e the windscreen and the carburetters - all BA threads.</div><div id=3D"m_-=
6614770113798806734m_6338142460873820609yMail_cursorElementTracker_15508229=
34322"><br></div><div id=3D"m_-6614770113798806734m_6338142460873820609yMai=
l_cursorElementTracker_1550822936274">Mike<br><br><div id=3D"m_-66147701137=
98806734m_6338142460873820609ymail_android_signature"><a href=3D"https://go=
.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DInProduct&amp;c=3DGlobal_Internal_YGrowth_Andro=
idEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=3Dym&amp;af_sub1=3DInternal&amp;af_sub2=
=3DGlobal_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=3DEmailSignature" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferre=
r" target=3D"_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div> <br> <blockq=
uote style=3D"margin:0 0 20px 0"> <div style=3D"font-family:Roboto,sans-ser=
if;color:#6d00f6"> <div>On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 at 2:13 am, Mike MacLean</div><=
div>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div> </div>=
 <div style=3D"padding:10px 0 0 20px;margin:10px 0 0 0;border-left:1px soli=
d #6d00f6"> <div id=3D"m_-6614770113798806734m_6338142460873820609yiv630132=
8994"><div><div>Would the 2ba screws still be used on a late (56) BN2?<div>=
Mike M</div></div><div class=3D"m_-6614770113798806734m_6338142460873820609=
yiv6301328994yqt9993860788 m_-6614770113798806734m_6338142460873820609yQTDB=
ase" id=3D"m_-6614770113798806734m_6338142460873820609yiv6301328994yqt58621=
"><div class=3D"m_-6614770113798806734m_6338142460873820609yiv6301328994gma=
il_extra"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"m_-6614770113798806734m_63381424=
60873820609yiv6301328994gmail_quote">On Feb 21, 2019 3:00 PM, Michael Salte=
r &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"=
none"><blockquote class=3D"m_-6614770113798806734m_6338142460873820609yiv63=
01328994quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:&#3=
9;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi Mike,</div><div style=
=3D"font-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:small">I belie=
ve that this subject has been studied in depth by Curt Arndt so he is the r=
eal expert however, here is something that may help.</div><div style=3D"fon=
t-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:small">The 100/6 part=
s book lists 4 screws to secure the rear quarter panels to the inner sill (=
at the bottom).</div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans=
-serif;font-size:small">The part number is <i><b>PMN0310</b></i> meaning, I=
 believe, 3/16 diameter x 10 sixteenths long and the description is <i><b>S=
crews N0. 10 U.N.F x 5/8&quot;</b></i></div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;=
comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:small"><i><b><span style=3D"color:r=
gb(0,0,255)"><a rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"https://lbcdigital.com/bmc_publications/akd1423/" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://lbcdigital.com/bmc_publications/akd1423/</a></span><br clear=3D"none">=
</b></i></div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;=
font-size:small">I&#39;m aware that the 100 used many 2BA screws which seem=
ed to slowly be replaced with #10/32 screws as the years went by. <br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-seri=
f;font-size:small">My very early 100 had a lot of 2BA but also many 10/32.<=
/div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;comic sans ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-size=
:small"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;comic sans =
ms&#39;,sans-serif;font-size:small">M<br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div><=
br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"m_-6614770113798806734m_6338142460873820609=
yiv6301328994elided-text"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 10:55 AM=
 mike brooks &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I he=
sitate to write this as I am effectively arguing with people far more knowl=
edgeable than I am. However, I have several times noticed that people are s=
aying that 10 32 bolts or screws were used on Healeys when I know they are =
actually 2BA. Although UK started using UNC and UNF bolts and screws as Whi=
tworth and BSF went out of fashion ( and prior to metrication), the small =
=C2=A0Unified sizes that had numerical- only designations (like 8, 10) were=
 very rarely used in the UK, where we carried on with BA for the smaller si=
zes.<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Rgds</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></=
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