Subject: Re: [Healeys] aluminum Radiator on ebay

From: rkeysor <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 01:20:27 +0000 (UTC)

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 I had the radiator on my newly purchased '60 BN7 recored and still fought =
the overheating battle with the car. =C2=A0That included other measures, bu=
t when I got into slow traffic in really ahot weather here in Florida, thin=
gs heated up altogether too quickly. A year or so ago I bought one of the n=
o-name Chinese radiators and eventually installed it. While the jury is sti=
ll out, I think it has improved my cooling. But there are a few negatives. =
=C2=A0The included radiator cap doesn't interchange with the one on a Heale=
y, and I don't know if that cap is available if replacement is necessary. =
=C2=A0Also, the aluminum matrix on the radiator is extremely sensitive to d=
istortion. =C2=A0As there are no fixed nuts on the attachment fixtures at e=
ither side, getting the radiator installed is more difficult and led to som=
e damage that I had to correct. Most troubling, with the radiator in the lo=
west possible position--which means when the hose outlet at the bottom come=
s in contact against the cross member behind the radiator--I found the radi=
ator's tank front corners made contact with the underside of the hood and d=
itto the rear of the radiator cap against the hood cross brace. =C2=A0I ver=
ified those contacts with tabs of modeling clay. I addressed the problem by=
 slightly loosening the hood latch, and all seems to be working OK for now.=
 =C2=A0Also, I paid more than the price listed in the ad that prompted this=
 discussion. =C2=A0I'm hanging onto the original radiator just in case.
    On Wednesday, January 23, 2019, 5:06:57 PM EST, [email-masked] <5=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
 I have a wizard radiator on both the 100 and BugEye. Both fit well However=
, the electric fan will not fit on the 100.=20
 Not enough room in front or behind.

They are both performing well but are pricy as you mentioned.=C2=A0=20
I have kept the rebuilt 100 radiator just in case someone wants to go back =
to stock in the future.

Rob

> On Jan 23, 2019, at 9:39 AM, HealeyRick <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Great price, but what's the quality like?=C2=A0 A Chinese-made radiator w=
ith a no-name fan.=C2=A0 No CFM rating on the fan and it looks like it moun=
ts to the radiator with nylon strapping through the fins.=C2=A0 The teeth o=
n the strapping can actually saw through the aluminum when these fans vibra=
te.=C2=A0 I paid over $500 for my custom Wizard radiator with an aluminum s=
hroud to which I could bolt my fan.=C2=A0 Not cheap, but it really cools my=
 V8 and I'm assured of the quality.=C2=A0=20
>=20
>=20
> Cheers,
> Rick Neville
>=20
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 1:45 AM i erbs <[email-masked]> wrote:
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/183568977972
> great price, NFI
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
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        <div>I had the radiator on my newly purchased '60 BN7 recored and s=
till fought the overheating battle with the car. &nbsp;That included other =
measures, but when I got into slow traffic in really ahot weather here in F=
lorida, things heated up altogether too quickly. A year or so ago I bought =
one of the no-name Chinese radiators and eventually installed it. While the=
 jury is still out, I think it has improved my cooling. But there are a few=
 negatives. &nbsp;The included radiator cap doesn't interchange with the on=
e on a Healey, and I don't know if that cap is available if replacement is =
necessary. &nbsp;Also, the aluminum matrix on the radiator is extremely sen=
sitive to distortion. &nbsp;As there are no fixed nuts on the attachment fi=
xtures at either side, getting the radiator installed is more difficult and=
 led to some damage that I had to correct. Most troubling, with the radiato=
r in the lowest possible position--which means when the hose outlet at the =
bottom comes in contact against the cross member behind the radiator--I fou=
nd the radiator's tank front corners made contact with the underside of the=
 hood and ditto the rear of the radiator cap against the hood cross brace. =
&nbsp;I verified those contacts with tabs of modeling clay. I addressed the=
 problem by slightly loosening the hood latch, and all seems to be working =
OK for now. &nbsp;Also, I paid more than the price listed in the ad that pr=
ompted this discussion. &nbsp;I'm hanging onto the original radiator just i=
n case.</div><div><br></div>
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                    On Wednesday, January 23, 2019, 5:06:57 PM EST, 55heale=
[email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have a wizard radiator on both the =
100 and BugEye. Both fit well However, the electric fan will not fit on the=
 100. <br clear=3D"none"> Not enough room in front or behind.<br clear=3D"n=
one"><br clear=3D"none">They are both performing well but are pricy as you =
mentioned.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">I have kept the rebuilt 100 radiator ju=
st in case someone wants to go back to stock in the future.<br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none">Rob<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Jan =
23, 2019, at 9:39 AM, HealeyRick &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:he=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Great price, =
but what's the quality like?&nbsp; A Chinese-made radiator with a no-name f=
an.&nbsp; No CFM rating on the fan and it looks like it mounts to the radia=
tor with nylon strapping through the fins.&nbsp; The teeth on the strapping=
 can actually saw through the aluminum when these fans vibrate.&nbsp; I pai=
d over $500 for my custom Wizard radiator with an aluminum shroud to which =
I could bolt my fan.&nbsp; Not cheap, but it really cools my V8 and I'm ass=
ured of the quality.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
&lt;IMG_0374_zpswwgymspo.JPG&gt;<div class=3D"yqt2294613417" id=3D"yqtfd747=
26"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Cheers,<br clear=3D"non=
e">&gt; Rick Neville<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Wed,=
 Jan 23, 2019 at 1:45 AM i erbs &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:eye=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.=
ebay.com/itm/183568977972" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ebay.com/itm/18356=
8977972</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt; great price, NFI<br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
Ira Erbs<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Portland,OR<br clear=3D"none">_____________=
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From: Chris Dimmock <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 00:41:30 +1100

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Here a tip, irrespective of whether you have an original radiator, or especi=
ally an alloy one.=20
Swap the bottom mounting ears side to side.=20
Then you have a gap to mount a rubberized mounting reel.=20
In Australia, that's an FJ holden 3/8 bolt rubber Centred radiator mount.=20=

Buy 2 pair at your local Repco.=20
So for my American friends, you are looking for a radiator mounting with 3/8=
-24 studs either end, and a "cotton reel" rubber block in the centre.=20
Grind about 3 threads off a Holden FJ one, on the inside where it bolts to t=
he radiator bracket, and now your bottom radiator mounts now are rubberised.=
 No more issues from vibration.=20
Vibration kills solid mounted radiators.=20
Best
Chris=20

> On 24 Jan 2019, at 12:20 pm, rkeysor <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I had the radiator on my newly purchased '60 BN7 recored and still fought t=
he overheating battle with the car.  That included other measures, but when I=
 got into slow traffic in really ahot weather here in Florida, things heated=
 up altogether too quickly. A year or so ago I bought one of the no-name Chi=
nese radiators and eventually installed it. While the jury is still out, I t=
hink it has improved my cooling. But there are a few negatives.  The include=
d radiator cap doesn't interchange with the one on a Healey, and I don't kno=
w if that cap is available if replacement is necessary.  Also, the aluminum m=
atrix on the radiator is extremely sensitive to distortion.  As there are no=
 fixed nuts on the attachment fixtures at either side, getting the radiator i=
nstalled is more difficult and led to some damage that I had to correct. Mos=
t troubling, with the radiator in the lowest possible position--which means w=
hen the hose outlet at the bottom comes in contact against the cross member b=
ehind the radiator--I found the radiator's tank front corners made contact w=
ith the underside of the hood and ditto the rear of the radiator cap against=
 the hood cross brace.  I verified those contacts with tabs of modeling clay=
. I addressed the problem by slightly loosening the hood latch, and all seem=
s to be working OK for now.  Also, I paid more than the price listed in the a=
d that prompted this discussion.  I'm hanging onto the original radiator jus=
t in case.
>=20
> On Wednesday, January 23, 2019, 5:06:57 PM EST, [email-masked] <55he=
> They are both performing well but are pricy as you mentioned. =20
> I have kept the rebuilt 100 radiator just in case someone wants to go back=
 to stock in the future.
> > Great price, but what's the quality like?  A Chinese-made radiator with a=
 no-name fan.  No CFM rating on the fan and it looks like it mounts to the r=
adiator with nylon strapping through the fins.  The teeth on the strapping c=
an actually saw through the aluminum when these fans vibrate.  I paid over $=
500 for my custom Wizard radiator with an aluminum shroud to which I could b=
olt my fan.  Not cheap, but it really cools my V8 and I'm assured of the qua=
lity. =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Here a tip, irrespective of whether yo=
u have an original radiator, or especially an alloy one.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D=
"AppleMailSignature">Swap the bottom mounting ears side to side.&nbsp;</div>=
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Then you have a gap to mount a rubberized mou=
nting reel.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">In Australia, that's a=
n FJ holden 3/8 bolt rubber Centred radiator mount.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"Ap=
pleMailSignature">Buy 2 pair at your local Repco.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"Appl=
eMailSignature">So for my American friends, you are looking for a radiator m=
ounting with 3/8-24 studs either end, and a "cotton reel" rubber block in th=
e centre.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Grind about 3 threads of=
f a Holden FJ one, on the inside where it bolts to the radiator bracket, and=
 now your bottom radiator mounts now are rubberised. No more issues from vib=
ration.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Vibration kills solid moun=
ted radiators.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Best</div><div id=3D=
"AppleMailSignature">Chris&nbsp;<br><br></div><div><br>On 24 Jan 2019, at 12=
:20 pm, rkeysor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">rkeysor@bellsou=
th.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div class=
=3D"ydp4582030fyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:verdana, helvetica, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div>I had the radiator on my newly purchased '60 BN7 recored and st=
ill fought the overheating battle with the car. &nbsp;That included other me=
asures, but when I got into slow traffic in really ahot weather here in Flor=
ida, things heated up altogether too quickly. A year or so ago I bought one o=
f the no-name Chinese radiators and eventually installed it. While the jury i=
s still out, I think it has improved my cooling. But there are a few negativ=
es. &nbsp;The included radiator cap doesn't interchange with the one on a He=
aley, and I don't know if that cap is available if replacement is necessary.=
 &nbsp;Also, the aluminum matrix on the radiator is extremely sensitive to d=
istortion. &nbsp;As there are no fixed nuts on the attachment fixtures at ei=
ther side, getting the radiator installed is more difficult and led to some d=
amage that I had to correct. Most troubling, with the radiator in the lowest=
 possible position--which means when the hose outlet at the bottom comes in c=
ontact against the cross member behind the radiator--I found the radiator's t=
ank front corners made contact with the underside of the hood and ditto the r=
ear of the radiator cap against the hood cross brace. &nbsp;I verified those=
 contacts with tabs of modeling clay. I addressed the problem by slightly lo=
osening the hood latch, and all seems to be working OK for now. &nbsp;Also, I=
 paid more than the price listed in the ad that prompted this discussion. &n=
bsp;I'm hanging onto the original radiator just in case.</div><div><br></div=
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"yahoo_quoted_8316524608" class=3D"yahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                    On Wednesday, January 23, 2019, 5:06:57 PM EST, <a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have a wizard radiator on both the 1=
00 and BugEye. Both fit well However, the electric fan will not fit on the 1=
00. <br clear=3D"none"> Not enough room in front or behind.<br clear=3D"none=
"><br clear=3D"none">They are both performing well but are pricy as you ment=
ioned.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">I have kept the rebuilt 100 radiator just in=
 case someone wants to go back to stock in the future.<br clear=3D"none"><br=
 clear=3D"none">Rob<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Jan 23, 201=
9, at 9:39 AM, HealeyRick &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyrik@=
gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Great price, but what's=
 the quality like?&nbsp; A Chinese-made radiator with a no-name fan.&nbsp; N=
o CFM rating on the fan and it looks like it mounts to the radiator with nyl=
on strapping through the fins.&nbsp; The teeth on the strapping can actually=
 saw through the aluminum when these fans vibrate.&nbsp; I paid over $500 fo=
r my custom Wizard radiator with an aluminum shroud to which I could bolt my=
 fan.&nbsp; Not cheap, but it really cools my V8 and I'm assured of the qual=
ity.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; &lt;IMG_0374_zpsw=
wgymspo.JPG&gt;<div class=3D"yqt2294613417" id=3D"yqtfd74726"><br clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Cheers,<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Rick Nevill=
e<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 1:4=
5 AM i erbs &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.ebay.com/itm/1835689779=
72" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ebay.com/itm/183568977972</a><br clear=3D"=
none">&gt; great price, NFI<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Ira Erbs<br clear=3D"none=
">&gt; Portland,OR<br clear=3D"none">_______________________________________=
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