Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine number

From: Per Schoerner <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 17:55:20 +0200

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No, Mk2tricarb engine is prefixed 29E. My tricarb engine is 29E-RU-H/428. I h=
ave a side shift however, so it doesn=E2=80=99t seem right anyway. Clausager=
 says in his book that RU means overdrive, just U means nonoverdrive.

Per

Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPhone

> 19 okt. 2018 kl. 12:21 skrev <[email-masked]> <simon.la=
[email-masked]>:
>=20
> It is 29D/RU/H4908
> 29 =3D 3,000cc (+/-!)
> D =3D MkI BT7 or BN7 (per Clausager)
> R=3D Overdrive fitted
> U =3D Centre shift (per BMC parts manual)
> =20
> The BMC manual is quite specific. See attached.
> Who is wrong? Did 29D engines continue into later tricarbs which is when, a=
s I understand it, centre shifts appeared?
> Or what?
> I am considering buying an engine and rebuilding it. There=E2=80=99s a blo=
ck on eBay with that number on its plate. I think it=E2=80=99s a MkI and tha=
t RU stands for overdrive and that U does not stand for centre shift.
> Am I right?
> Thanks,
> Simon
> <Engine numbers from BMC Service Parts List .pdf>
>=20

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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>No, Mk2tricarb engine is prefixed 29E.=
 My tricarb engine is 29E-RU-H/428. I have a side shift however, so it doesn=
=E2=80=99t seem right anyway. Clausager says in his book that RU means overd=
rive, just U means nonoverdrive.</div><div><br></div><div>Per</div><br><div i=
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ir=3D"ltr"><br>19 okt. 2018 kl. 12:21 skrev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lach=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; &lt;<a hr=
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oNormal">It is 29D/RU/H4908<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">29 =3D 3,00=
0cc (+/-!)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">D =3D MkI BT7 or BN7 (per Cl=
ausager)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">R=3D Overdrive fitted<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">U =3D Centre shift (per BMC parts manual)<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
The BMC manual is quite specific. See attached. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"M=
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drive and that U does not stand for centre shift.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"=
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p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;Engine numbers from BMC Service=
 Parts List .pdf&gt;</div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div></blockquote></body></html>=

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From: Bob Haskell <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:23:17 -0400

Simon,

The tri-carb engines had the "29E" prefix.  The center shift gearbox was 
introduced during tri-carb production.  So I would go with Clausager's 
explanation.  Shame he doesn't state what he thought the 'U' meant.

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar
http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php

On 10/19/2018 06:21 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
> It is 29D/RU/H4908
> 
> 29 = 3,000cc (+/-!)
> 
> D = MkI BT7 or BN7 (per Clausager)
> 
> R= Overdrive fitted
> 
> U = Centre shift (per BMC parts manual)
> 
> Who is wrong? Did 29D engines continue into later tricarbs which is 
> when, as I understand it, centre shifts appeared?
> 
> Or what?
> 
> I am considering buying an engine and rebuilding it. There’s a block on 
> eBay with that number on its plate. I think it’s a MkI and that RU 
> stands for overdrive and that U does not stand for centre shift.
> 
> Am I right?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> 
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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 16:49:24 -0400

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Simon, I believe the U means a floor shift rather than a column shift.

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of
[email-masked]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:21 AM
To: Healeys
Subject: [Healeys] Engine number

It is 29D/RU/H4908

29 = 3,000cc (+/-!)

R= Overdrive fitted

Who is wrong? Did 29D engines continue into later tricarbs which is when, as
I understand it, centre shifts appeared?

Or what?

I am considering buying an engine and rebuilding it. There's a block on eBay
with that number on its plate. I think it's a MkI and that RU stands for
overdrive and that U does not stand for centre shift.

Am I right?

Thanks,

Simon

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MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>[email-masked]<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October =
19, 2018 6:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] =
Engine number<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>It is 29D/RU/H4908<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>29 =3D 3,000cc =
(+/-!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>D =
=3D MkI BT7 or BN7 (per Clausager)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>R=3D Overdrive =
fitted<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>U =
=3D Centre shift (per BMC parts manual)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB>The BMC manual is quite specific. =
See attached. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Who is wrong? Did 29D engines continue into later tricarbs =
which is when, as I understand it, centre shifts =
appeared?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Or what?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>I am considering buying an engine and rebuilding it. =
There&#8217;s a block on eBay with that number on its plate. I think =
it&#8217;s a MkI and that RU stands for overdrive and that U does not =
stand for centre shift.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Am I right?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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From: "Harold Manifold" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 18:18:06 -0700

Hello,

The engine serial number below is definitely from either a BT7 or BN7 built
between July 59 and Nov 59. It would have two SU HD6 Carbs. The Mk2 had the
engine prefix "29E" and had three SU HS4 carbs and started production in Mar
61.  The side shift transmission continued until Nov 61 engine 29E/2246.

I have the same BMC parts manual with RU = Overdrive centre shift. That is
not correct. All of the "29D" and some of the "29E" series engines had a
side shift transmission.

Harold
29D-RU-H/22479

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob
Haskell
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:23 AM
To: [email-masked]; Healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine number

Simon,

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar

On 10/19/2018 06:21 AM, [email-masked] wrote:
> I am considering buying an engine and rebuilding it. There's a block 
> on eBay with that number on its plate. I think it's a MkI and that RU 
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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 21:37:25 -0400

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I posted this information previously but I'm not sure it ever showed up.
Sometimes my copy of my posts to the list don't appear in my inbox for
several days.

The "U" in the engine serial number refers to a gearshift that is on the
floor (in the center of the car), rather than on the steering column.  BMC
built several other types of cars with the column shift.  The "U" simply
provided a code for the non-column shift.  It did not mean "center shift
rather than side shift".

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Harold
Manifold
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:18 PM
To: 'Bob Haskell'; [email-masked]; 'Healeys'
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine number

Hello,

side shift transmission.

Harold

29D-RU-H/22479

-----Original Message-----

Haskell

Simon,

Cheers,

Bob Haskell

AHCA 3000 MkI registrar

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoPlainText>I =
posted this information previously but I'm not sure it ever showed =
up.&nbsp; Sometimes my copy of my posts to the list don't appear in my =
inbox for several days.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>The =
&quot;U&quot; in the engine serial number refers to a gearshift that is =
<u>on the floor </u>(in the center of the car), rather than on the =
steering column.&nbsp; BMC built several other types of cars with the =
column shift.&nbsp; The &quot;U&quot; simply provided a code for the =
non-column shift.&nbsp; It did not mean &quot;center shift rather than =
side shift&quot;.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Steve =
Byers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>BJ8 Registry<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>AHCA Delegate at Large<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>Havelock, NC&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Harold =
Manifold<br>Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:18 PM<br>To: 'Bob Haskell'; =
[email-masked]; 'Healeys'<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] =
Engine number</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>The =
engine serial number below is definitely from either a BT7 or BN7 =
built<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>between July 59 and Nov 59. =
It would have two SU HD6 Carbs. The Mk2 had the<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>engine prefix &quot;29E&quot; and had three SU HS4 =
carbs and started production in Mar<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>61.&nbsp; The side shift transmission continued =
until Nov 61 engine 29E/2246.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>I have =
the same BMC parts manual with RU =3D Overdrive centre shift. That =
is<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>not correct. All of the =
&quot;29D&quot; and some of the &quot;29E&quot; series engines had =
a<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>side shift =
transmission.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>Harold<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>29D-RU-H/22479<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>From: Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Bob<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Haskell<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:23 =
AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>To: =
[email-masked]; Healeys<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine =
number<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>Simon,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>The =
tri-carb engines had the &quot;29E&quot; prefix.&nbsp; The center shift =
gearbox was<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>introduced during =
tri-carb production.&nbsp; So I would go with =
Clausager's<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>explanation.&nbsp; =
Shame he doesn't state what he thought the 'U' meant.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Bob =
Haskell<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>AHCA 3000 MkI =
registrar<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php<o:p></o:p>=
</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>On 10/19/2018 06:21 AM, =
[email-masked] wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; It is 29D/RU/H4908<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; 29 =
=3D 3,000cc (+/-!)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; D =3D MkI BT7 or BN7 (per =
Clausager)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; R=3D Overdrive fitted<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; U =
=3D Centre shift (per BMC parts manual)<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
The BMC manual is quite specific. See attached.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
Who is wrong? Did 29D engines continue into later tricarbs which is =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; when, as I understand it, =
centre shifts appeared?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; Or what?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; I =
am considering buying an engine and rebuilding it. There's a block =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; on eBay with that number on =
its plate. I think it's a MkI and that RU <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; stands for overdrive and that U does not stand =
for centre shift.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; Am I right?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; Simon<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
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