Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color

From: Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 08:10:22 +0000 (UTC)

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Have I got the wrong emblem for my BN2?=C2=A0 Mine is filled with red clois=
onne.
Mike MacLean=20

    On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:33 PM, Linwood Rose <[email-masked]=
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 So I have lost some paint from my=C2=A0 emblem. Anyone figured out what co=
lor to use to match?
Thanks.
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From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 07:17:27 -0400

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Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is not paint, it is cloisonn=C3=A9.
Thats a type of glass and paint just doesn't look the same.

There are places where you can get it redone.

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is not paint, it=
 is=C2=A0<span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color=3D"#=
444444" face=3D"-apple-system, helveticaneue, roboto, arial, sans-serif"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:32px">cloisonn=C3=A9.</span></font></span><br>Thats =
a type of glass and paint just doesn&#39;t look the same.</div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">There are places where you can get it red=
one.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M<br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 10:16 PM L=
inwood Rose, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">So I have lost some=
 paint from my=C2=A0 emblem. Anyone figured out what color to use to match?=
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Thanks.<br>
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I knew that the later badges were cloisonn=C3=A9 as seen on this car that ha=
s been the subject of our discussion recently. The earlier badge (my BT7) lo=
oks more like enamel - like nail polish actually. It does not have the depth=
 that cloisonn=C3=A9 has. I am certainly not saying that I am correct about t=
his, but the color in the badges appears different to me.

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>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 10:16 PM Linwood Rose, <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>> So I have lost some paint from my  emblem. Anyone figured out what color t=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I knew that the later badges were cloisonn=C3=
=A9 as seen on this car that has been the subject of our discussion recently=
. The earlier badge (my BT7) looks more like enamel - like nail polish actua=
lly. It does not have the depth that cloisonn=C3=A9 has. I am certainly not s=
aying that I am correct about this, but the color in the badges appears diff=
erent to me.<div><br></div><div><img src=3D"cid:58CB2AD5-4211-420C-BFE5-29E1=
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iv><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Bad new=
s Lin, the red in the badges is not paint, it is&nbsp;<span style=3D"backgro=
und-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color=3D"#444444" face=3D"-apple-system, h=
elveticaneue, roboto, arial, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:32px">cloi=
sonn=C3=A9.</span></font></span><br>Thats a type of glass and paint just doe=
sn't look the same.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">There=
 are places where you can get it redone.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">M<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr=
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left:1ex">So I have lost some paint from my&nbsp; emblem. Anyone figured out=
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I should have added that cloisonn=C3=A9 badges that I have seen which requir=
ed repair seemed to be cracked, often with small pieces of the material miss=
ing, while on my badge the color seems to have just =E2=80=9Cpeeled=E2=80=9D=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I should have added that cloisonn=C3=A9 bad=
ges that I have seen which required repair seemed to be cracked, often with s=
mall pieces of the material missing, while on my badge the color seems to ha=
ve just =E2=80=9Cpeeled=E2=80=9D off.<div>Lin<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSig=
nature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Oct 17, 2=
018, at 7:17 AM, Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Bad news Lin, the red in the b=
adges is not paint, it is&nbsp;<span style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,2=
55)"><font color=3D"#444444" face=3D"-apple-system, helveticaneue, roboto, a=
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t></span><br>Thats a type of glass and paint just doesn't look the same.</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">There are places where you c=
an get it redone.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M<br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Oct 16, 2018,=
 10:16 PM Linwood Rose, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">linwoodro=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">So I have lo=
st some paint from my&nbsp; emblem. Anyone figured out what color to use to m=
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Thanks.<br>
Lin<br>
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At some stage, they stopped using cloisonn=C3=A9. Later than =
BN2s=E2=80=A6.I=E2=80=99ve got a MkII BT7 with cloisonn=C3=A9.

Yours may be an after-market repro. Don=E2=80=99t know for sure. =
Let=E2=80=99s hope not.

Simon

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Have I got the wrong emblem for my BN2?  Mine is filled with red =
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Mike MacLean

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So I have lost some paint from my  emblem. Anyone figured out what color =
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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>At some stage, they stopped using =
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with cloisonn=C3=A9.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yours may be an after-market repro. =
Don=E2=80=99t know for sure. Let=E2=80=99s hope =
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&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael =
MacLean<br><b>Sent:</b> 17 October 2018 09:10<br><b>To:</b> Linwood Rose =
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Mine is filled with red =
cloisonne.<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
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Mike,

Once again It's NOT cloisonne it's enamel.  Common misconception.

Just ask Karla Maxwell, of Maxwell *ENAMELS*... she does this for a living
and does dozens of Pebble Beach cars every year.  Try telling her it's
cloisonne, and you'll get an earful!

Cheers,

Curt

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:46 AM Michael MacLean <[email-masked]>
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> Have I got the wrong emblem for my BN2?  Mine is filled with red cloisonne.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Mike,<div><br></div><div>Once again It&#39;s NOT=C2=A0<spa=
n style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;n=
ew york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px">cloisonne</span>=C2=A0it&#39;s en=
amel.=C2=A0 Common misconception.</div><div><br></div><div>Just ask Karla M=
axwell, of Maxwell <b><u>ENAMELS</u></b>... she does this for a living and =
does dozens of Pebble Beach cars every year.=C2=A0 Try telling her it&#39;s=
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t;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px">cloisonne,</span>=C2=A0=
and you&#39;ll get an earful!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Curt</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:46 AM Michael M=
acLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
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1_1539763216793_29263"><span id=3D"m_2417262668639253662yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
539763216793_29264">Have I got the wrong emblem for my BN2?=C2=A0 Mine is f=
illed with red cloisonne.<br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_24172626=
68639253662yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1539763216793_29289"><span id=3D"m_24172626686=
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=46rom the 2018 Austin-Healey Concours Guidelines:

=E2=80=A2 All cars up through the Mark I 3000s had flat Austin-Healey =
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red cloisonn=C3=A9 lettering inset in chrome.

You=E2=80=99re good.
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class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
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While I normally wouldn't contradict Michael--he's a pro and I'm an 
amateur--that isn't correct.  What's in our badges--until late BJ8s 
anyway, which were painted--is *Champlevé:*

https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/

This is usually cited as the goto place for badge restoration, but I 
hear they are horribly backlogged:

http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/

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On 10/17/2018 4:17 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
> Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is not paint, it is cloisonné.
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 10:16 PM Linwood Rose, <[email-masked] 
>
>     So I have lost some paint from my  emblem. Anyone figured out what
>     color to use to match?
>     Thanks.
>     Lin
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    <p>While I normally wouldn't contradict Michael--he's a pro and I'm
      an amateur--that isn't correct.  What's in our badges--until late
      BJ8s anyway, which were painted--is <strong>Champlevé:</strong></p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/">https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/</a></p>
    <p>This is usually cited as the goto place for badge restoration,
      but I hear they are horribly backlogged:</p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/">http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/</a><br>
    </p>
    <p>Bob<br>
      <strong></strong></p>
    <p><strong><br>
      </strong></p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/17/2018 4:17 AM, Michael Salter
      wrote:<br>
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        <div>Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is not paint, it is <span
            style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font
              face="-apple-system, helveticaneue, roboto, arial,
              sans-serif" color="#444444"><span style="font-size:32px">cloisonné.</span></font></span><br>
          Thats a type of glass and paint just doesn't look the same.</div>
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        </div>
        <div dir="auto">There are places where you can get it redone.</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">M<br>
          <div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto">
            <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 10:16 PM Linwood Rose,
              &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]"
                moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
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            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">So I
              have lost some paint from my  emblem. Anyone figured out
              what color to use to match?<br>
              Thanks.<br>
              Lin<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
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Lin, it depends on the age of the badge=E2=80=A6. For the late model =
cars, the paint is =E2=80=9Cbrick=E2=80=9D red=E2=80=A6. A kind of dull =
red that is similar to that found on traditional red bricks.   If the =
badge is for an older car, then Michael Salter=E2=80=99s message is =
relevant for you.   You=E2=80=99ll need to get the cloisonn=C3=A9 =
redone.

-skip-

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Michael Salter
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:17 AM
To: Linwood Rose
Cc: healeylist
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color

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Thanks everyone. Since it is not an original badge, I think I will just buy a=
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 lost some paint from my&nbsp; emblem. Anyone figured out what color to use t=
o match?<br>Thanks.<br>Lin<br><br><br><br>Sent from my iPhone_______________=
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...it sounds like yours is an aftermarket badge Lin. I went through 3 of th=
ose, including one from a UK supplier who claimed theirs were from a differ=
ent supplier from the rest, and better. They all shed their red script, one=
 in almost one piece. I figure that the skills/techniques to do these prope=
rly has been lost. The main issue seems to be that a) the casting of the sc=
ript is too shallow, and the edges not sufficiently sharp, and b) the chrom=
e plating in the script isn=E2=80=99t etched or otherwise prepared to form =
a key for the cloisonn=C3=A9. The original badge on my other Healey is fine=
 after 63 years. I eventually gave up & painted the script!!

Cheers

Peter

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Linwood Rose
Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2018 4:54 AM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: healeylist
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color

I should have added that cloisonn=C3=A9 badges that I have seen which requi=
red repair seemed to be cracked, often with small pieces of the material mi=
ssing, while on my badge the color seems to have just =E2=80=9Cpeeled=E2=80=
=9D off.
Lin
Sent from my iPad

On Oct 17, 2018, at 7:17 AM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:
Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is not paint, it is=C2=A0cloisonn=C3=A9=
.
Thats a type of glass and paint just doesn't look the same.

M
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 10:16 PM Linwood Rose, <[email-masked]> wrote:
So I have lost some paint from my=C2=A0 emblem. Anyone figured out what col=
or to use to match?
Thanks.
Lin

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r who claimed theirs were from a different supplier from the rest, and bett=
er. They all shed their red script, one in almost one piece. I figure that =
the skills/techniques to do these properly has been lost. The main issue se=
ems to be that a) the casting of the script is too shallow, and the edges n=
ot sufficiently sharp, and b) the chrome plating in the script isn=E2=80=99=
t etched or otherwise prepared to form a key for the cloisonn=C3=A9. The or=
iginal badge on my other Healey is fine after 63 years. I eventually gave u=
p &amp; painted the script!!<br><br>Cheers</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Peter</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;=
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:54 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">michaelsalt=
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aleylist</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color</p></div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I should ha=
ve added that cloisonn=C3=A9 badges that I have seen which required repair =
seemed to be cracked, often with small pieces of the material missing, whil=
e on my badge the color seems to have just =E2=80=9Cpeeled=E2=80=9D off.<o:=
p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Lin<o:=
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o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o=
:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><di=
v><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is not=
 paint, it is&nbsp;<span style=3D'font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans=
-serif;color:#444444;background:white'>cloisonn=C3=A9.</span><br>Thats a ty=
pe of glass and paint just doesn't look the same.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>T=
here are places where you can get it redone.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>M<o:p>=
</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 10:16 PM Lin=
wood Rose, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:36.0pt;=
margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:40.8pt'>So I have lost some paint from my&=
nbsp; emblem. Anyone figured out what color to use to match?<br>Thanks.<br>=
Lin<br><br><br><br>Sent from my iPhone_____________________________________=
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From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <[email-masked]>
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Hello Lin

=20

Some years back I repaired a Healey badge with fibreglass resin mixed =
with red pigment (the stuff used in paint shops to mix with basic =
colours) and the result was perfect.

=20

Took a little time till I was happy with the colour.

=20

Some Healey badges have the same cloisonn=C3=A9 as those from =
Austin-Healeys.

=20

Hoo Roo

=20

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Linwood Rose
Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2018 10:30 PM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: healeylist
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color

=20

I should have added that cloisonn=C3=A9 badges that I have seen which =
required repair seemed to be cracked, often with small pieces of the =
material missing, while on my badge the color seems to have just =
=E2=80=9Cpeeled=E2=80=9D off.

Lin

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 17, 2018, at 7:17 AM, Michael Salter <[email-masked]> =
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Lin<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Some years back I repaired a Healey badge with =
fibreglass resin mixed with red pigment (the stuff used in paint shops =
to mix with basic colours) and the result was perfect.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Took a =
little time till I was happy with the colour.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Some Healey =
badges have the same cloisonn=C3=A9 as those from =
Austin-Healeys.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hoo =
Roo<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Blue =
Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Linwood =
Rose<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 17 October 2018 10:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> healeylist<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Paint type and color<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I should =
have added that cloisonn=C3=A9 badges that I have seen which required =
repair seemed to be cracked, often with small pieces of the material =
missing, while on my badge the color seems to have just =
=E2=80=9Cpeeled=E2=80=9D off.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Lin<o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my =
iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Oct 17, 2018, at 7:17 AM, Michael =
Salter &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is not paint, it =
is&nbsp;<span =
style=3D'font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444;=
background:white'>cloisonn=C3=A9.</span><br>Thats a type of glass and =
paint just doesn't look the same.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>There are places where you can get it =
redone.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>M<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, =
Oct 16, 2018, 10:16 PM Linwood Rose, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>So I have lost some paint from my&nbsp; =
emblem. Anyone figured out what color to use to =
match?<br>Thanks.<br>Lin<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></d=
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From: Chuck <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 20:04:56 -0400

Lin,

The later BJ8s had painted badges in front instead of cloisonné. I used GM 519 “victory red” to match the paint when I redid mine. It looks pretty close to what the original was, I think. It might work for your badge too. I got the Dupli-color “scratch fix” touch up bottle with the ball point tip on it. It worked great for filling in the small areas between the letters.

Chuck Ott
67 BJ8, 69 AN9

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2018, at 3:29 PM, Linwood Rose <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> So I have lost some paint from my  emblem. Anyone figured out what color to use to match?
> Thanks.
> Lin
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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That's interesting Curt ... I  have an original badge with most of the red
missing and it is definitely cloisonne.
 If you chip a piece out and heat it it doesn't burn and it eventually
melts into a blob of red and if you let that cool and crush it it shatters.
The reproduction badges have cloissonne in them as well as it ctacks out if
you try to bend the badge ... don't ask me how I know.

M

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018, 12:08 AM Curtis Arndt, <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Just ask Karla Maxwell, of Maxwell *ENAMELS*... she does this for a
> living and does dozens of Pebble Beach cars every year.  Try telling her
> it's cloisonne, and you'll get an earful!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>That&#39;s interesting Curt ... I=C2=A0 have an orig=
inal badge with most of the red missing and it is definitely cloisonne<font=
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16px">.</span></font></div><div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"times new roman,=
 new york, times, serif"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0If you chip a=
 piece out and heat it it doesn&#39;t burn and it eventually melts into a b=
lob of red and if you let that cool and crush it it shatters.</span></font>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"times new roman, new york, times, ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-size:16px">The reproduction badges have cloissonne =
in them as well as it ctacks out if you try to bend the badge ... don&#39;t=
 ask me how I know.</span></font></div><div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"time=
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:08 AM Curtis Arndt, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
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solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike,<div><br></div><div>Once agai=
n It&#39;s NOT=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&quot;times=
 new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px">cloisonne=
</span>=C2=A0it&#39;s enamel.=C2=A0 Common misconception.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Just ask Karla Maxwell, of Maxwell <b><u>ENAMELS</u></b>... she doe=
s this for a living and does dozens of Pebble Beach cars every year.=C2=A0 =
Try telling her it&#39;s=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&=
quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px"=
>cloisonne,</span>=C2=A0and you&#39;ll get an earful!</div><div><br></div><=
div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Curt</div><div><br></div><div><br></di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 17, 201=
8 at 8:46 AM Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
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 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"col=
or:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,se=
rif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"m_8160261549039919909m_-5352878191917876838m=
_2417262668639253662yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1539763216793_29263"><span id=3D"m_81=
60261549039919909m_-5352878191917876838m_2417262668639253662yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1539763216793_29264">Have I got the wrong emblem for my BN2?=C2=A0 Mine =
is filled with red cloisonne.<br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_8160=
261549039919909m_-5352878191917876838m_2417262668639253662yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
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Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 16:26:46 +0100

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Yes, these are the absolute Go To people. Used to call themselves =
PamelaDavid and were pretty much non-digital.

They described my MkII badge as cloisonn=C3=A9 but they may have assumed =
that I didn=E2=80=99t know the difference.

They were indeed backlogged but it was worth it. 6+/- weeks.

Simon

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From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: 17 October 2018 19:21
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color

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While I normally wouldn't contradict Michael--he's a pro and I'm an =
amateur--that isn't correct.  What's in our badges--until late BJ8s =
anyway, which were painted--is Champlev=C3=A9:

https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-b=
etween-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/

This is usually cited as the goto place for badge restoration, but I =
hear they are horribly backlogged:

Bob

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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yes, these are the =
absolute Go To people. Used to call themselves PamelaDavid and were =
pretty much non-digital.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>They described my =
MkII badge as cloisonn=C3=A9 but they may have assumed that I =
didn=E2=80=99t know the difference.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>They were indeed =
backlogged but it was worth it. 6+/- weeks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:windowtext'> Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob =
Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> 17 October 2018 19:21<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Paint type and =
color<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>While I normally wouldn't =
contradict Michael--he's a pro and I'm an amateur--that isn't =
correct.&nbsp; What's in our badges--until late BJ8s anyway, which were =
painted--is <strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Champlev=C3=A9:</span></strong=
><o:p></o:p></p><p><a =
href=3D"https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-diff=
erence-between-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/">https://beautifulantiquet=
reasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-cloi=
sonne-enamel/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p>This is usually cited as the goto =
place for badge restoration, but I hear they are horribly =
backlogged:<o:p></o:p></p><p><a =
href=3D"http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/">http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/</a><o:=
p></o:p></p><p>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
10/17/2018 4:17 AM, Michael Salter =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is not paint, it =
is&nbsp;<span =
style=3D'font-size:24.0pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#444444;background:whi=
te'>cloisonn=C3=A9.</span><br>Thats a type of glass and paint just =
doesn't look the same.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>There are places where you can get it =
redone.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>M<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, =
Oct 16, 2018, 10:16 PM Linwood Rose, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>So I have lost some paint from my&nbsp; =
emblem. Anyone figured out what color to use to =
match?<br>Thanks.<br>Lin<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></d=
iv></div></blockquote><p =
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The originals were enamelled on top of the preparatory copper plate and befo=
re chroming.=20
All the aftermarket badges seem to be chromed and polished before the enamel=
 is inlaid. No chance of that staying put.=20
AlanB - iPhone message.

> On 17 Oct 2018, at 22:33, Peter & Veronica <[email-masked]> wrote=
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> ...it sounds like yours is an aftermarket badge Lin. I went through 3 of t=
hose, including one from a UK supplier who claimed theirs were from a differ=
ent supplier from the rest, and better. They all shed their red script, one i=
n almost one piece. I figure that the skills/techniques to do these properly=
 has been lost. The main issue seems to be that a) the casting of the script=
 is too shallow, and the edges not sufficiently sharp, and b) the chrome pla=
ting in the script isn=E2=80=99t etched or otherwise prepared to form a key f=
or the cloisonn=C3=A9. The original badge on my other Healey is fine after 6=
3 years. I eventually gave up & painted the script!!
> I should have added that cloisonn=C3=A9 badges that I have seen which requ=
ired repair seemed to be cracked, often with small pieces of the material mi=
ssing, while on my badge the color seems to have just =E2=80=9Cpeeled=E2=80=9D=
 off.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">The originals were enamelled on top of the p=
reparatory copper plate and before chroming.&nbsp;<br>All the aftermarket ba=
dges seem to be chromed and polished before the enamel is inlaid. No chance o=
f that staying put.&nbsp;<br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Alan=
B - iPhone message.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 17 Oct 2018, at 22:33, Pete=
r &amp; Veronica &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">greylinn@oze=
mail.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
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--></style><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">...it sounds l=
ike yours is an aftermarket badge Lin. I went through 3 of those, including o=
ne from a UK supplier who claimed theirs were from a different supplier from=
 the rest, and better. They all shed their red script, one in almost one pie=
ce. I figure that the skills/techniques to do these properly has been lost. T=
he main issue seems to be that a) the casting of the script is too shallow, a=
nd the edges not sufficiently sharp, and b) the chrome plating in the script=
 isn=E2=80=99t etched or otherwise prepared to form a key for the cloisonn=C3=
=A9. The original badge on my other Healey is fine after 63 years. I eventua=
lly gave up &amp; painted the script!!<br><br>Cheers</p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Peter</p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
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lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0cm"><b>From: </b><a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">Linwood Rose</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, 18 O=
ctober 2018 4:54 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net">healeylist</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Paint type and colo=
r</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">I should have added that cloisonn=C3=A9 badges that I have seen which requ=
ired repair seemed to be cracked, often with small pieces of the material mi=
ssing, while on my badge the color seems to have just =E2=80=9Cpeeled=E2=80=9D=
 off.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0p=
t">Lin<o:p></o:p></p><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">S=
ent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"ma=
rgin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Oct 17, 2018, at 7:17 AM, Michael Salter &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:=
5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bad news Lin, the red in the ba=
dges is not paint, it is&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-size:24.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#444444;background:white">cloisonn=C3=A9.</=
span><br>Thats a type of glass and paint just doesn't look the same.<o:p></o=
:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">There are places where you can get it redone.<o:p></o:p><=
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s=3D"MsoNormal">M<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct=
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m;margin-right:36.0pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:40.8pt">So I have los=
t some paint from my&nbsp; emblem. Anyone figured out what color to use to m=
atch?<br>Thanks.<br>Lin<br><br><br><br>Sent from my iPhone__________________=
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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 07:34:35 -0400

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One of the details I document for each BJ8 in the registry is the type =
of nose badge it has.  As we know, later cars had painted badges and =
some owners have claimed that their badge was always plain chrome -- no =
color at all.  I started out describing the early badges as =
"cloisonn=C3=A9".  Then someone pointed out the difference between =
cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9, so I changed all the nomenclature to =
champlev=C3=A9.  Both cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9 refer to =
techniques, not the material -- which is vitreous enamel.  So, that is =
the description I'm using now.

=20

The BMC parts manual gives only one part number for the BJ8 nose badge =
so there is no change point from one type of badge to another.  =
Recording this detail simply provides some data to help improve our =
knowledge of change points.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

=20

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
[email-masked]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Bob Spidell'; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color

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Simon

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lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>One of the details I document for each BJ8 in the =
registry is the type of nose badge it has.=C2=A0 As we know, later cars =
had painted badges and some owners have claimed that their badge was =
always plain chrome -- no color at all.=C2=A0 I started out describing =
the early badges as &quot;cloisonn=C3=A9&quot;.=C2=A0 Then someone =
pointed out the difference between cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9, so =
I changed all the nomenclature to champlev=C3=A9.=C2=A0 Both =
cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9 refer to techniques, not the material =
-- which is vitreous enamel.=C2=A0 So, that is the description I'm using =
now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>The BMC parts manual gives only one part number for =
the BJ8 nose badge so there is no change point from one type of badge to =
another.=C2=A0 Recording this detail simply provides some data to help =
improve our knowledge of change points.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; =
</span><span style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>[email-masked]<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October =
18, 2018 11:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Bob Spidell'; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Paint type and =
color<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:windowtext'>Yes, these are the absolute Go =
To people. Used to call themselves PamelaDavid and were pretty much =
non-digital.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:windowtext'>They described my MkII badge as =
cloisonn=C3=A9 but they may have assumed that I didn=E2=80=99t know the =
difference.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>They were indeed backlogged but it was worth =
it. 6+/- weeks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:windowtext'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'> Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob =
Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> 17 October 2018 19:21<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Paint type and =
color<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-GB>While I =
normally wouldn't contradict Michael--he's a pro and I'm an =
amateur--that isn't correct.&nbsp; What's in our badges--until late BJ8s =
anyway, which were painted--is </span><strong><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Champlev=C3=A9:</span></stro=
ng><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-GB><a =
href=3D"https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-diff=
erence-between-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/">https://beautifulantiquet=
reasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-cloi=
sonne-enamel/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-GB>This is =
usually cited as the goto place for badge restoration, but I hear they =
are horribly backlogged:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-GB><a =
href=3D"http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/">http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/</a><o:=
p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
lang=3DEN-GB><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Without trying to hijack this thread perhaps I can get the ansdwer to a
question I have been wondering about for a long time:  Does anyone know
what drove the badge change from "Austin-Healey" on the early cars to
"Austin Healey" on later cars?  While I know there is often no rhyme nor
reason for variations in Healey equipment, etc. it appears that once the
change was made it stayed that way and thus it appears to have been an
intentional decision.

I have heard one  explanation that the badge supplier mistakenly left out
the hyphen and in order to get a break in price BMC accepted the order and
stuck with the new badge design.  This smacks of cynical humor but perhaps
it is true.

Can anyone shed any light here?

Best--Michael Oritt

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:58 PM BJ8Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:

> One of the details I document for each BJ8 in the registry is the type of
> nose badge it has.  As we know, later cars had painted badges and some
> owners have claimed that their badge was always plain chrome -- no color =
at
> all.  I started out describing the early badges as "cloisonn=C3=A9".  The=
n
> someone pointed out the difference between cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=
=A9, so I
> changed all the nomenclature to champlev=C3=A9.  Both cloisonn=C3=A9 and =
champlev=C3=A9
> refer to techniques, not the material -- which is vitreous enamel.  So,
> that is the description I'm using now.
>
>
>
> The BMC parts manual gives only one part number for the BJ8 nose badge so
> there is no change point from one type of badge to another.  Recording th=
is
> detail simply provides some data to help improve our knowledge of change
> points.
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> HBJ8L/36666
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
> Havelock, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:27 AM
> *To:* 'Bob Spidell'; [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color
>
>
>
> Yes, these are the absolute Go To people. Used to call themselves
that I
> didn=E2=80=99t know the difference.
>
> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Bob
> Spidell
> *Sent:* 17 October 2018 19:21
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color
>
>
>
> amateur--that isn't correct.  What's in our badges--until late BJ8s anywa=
y,
> which were painted--is *Champlev=C3=A9:*
>
>
>
> This is usually cited as the goto place for badge restoration, but I hear
> they are horribly backlogged:
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Witho=
ut trying to hijack this thread perhaps I can get the ansdwer to a question=
 I have been wondering about for a long time:=C2=A0 Does anyone know what d=
rove the badge change from &quot;Austin-Healey&quot; on the early cars to &=
quot;Austin Healey&quot; on later cars?=C2=A0 While I know there is often n=
o rhyme nor reason for variations in Healey equipment, etc. it appears that=
 once the change was made it stayed that way and thus it appears to have be=
en an intentional decision.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"colo=
r:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I=
 have heard one=C2=A0 explanation that the badge supplier mistakenly left o=
ut the hyphen and in order to get a break in price BMC accepted the order a=
nd stuck with the new badge design.=C2=A0 This smacks of cynical humor but =
perhaps it is true.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333f=
f"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Can anyon=
e shed any light here?=C2=A0 =C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3=
333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:58 PM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"white" lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=
=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_1166037742723277453WordSection1"><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060=
">One of the details I document for each BJ8 in the registry is the type of=
 nose badge it has.=C2=A0 As we know, later cars had painted badges and som=
e owners have claimed that their badge was always plain chrome -- no color =
at all.=C2=A0 I started out describing the early badges as &quot;cloisonn=
=C3=A9&quot;.=C2=A0 Then someone pointed out the difference between cloison=
n=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9, so I changed all the nomenclature to champlev=
=C3=A9.=C2=A0 Both cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9 refer to techniques, n=
ot the material -- which is vitreous enamel.=C2=A0 So, that is the descript=
ion I&#39;m using now.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">The BMC parts manual gives only one pa=
rt number for the BJ8 nose badge so there is no change point from one type =
of badge to another.=C2=A0 Recording this detail simply provides some data =
to help improve our knowledge of change points.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;co=
lor:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Steve Byer=
s</span><span style=3D"color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#0020=
60">HBJ8L/36666</span><span style=3D"color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quo=
t;;color:#002060">BJ8 Registry</span><span style=3D"color:#002060"><u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Co=
mic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span style=
=3D"color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Havelock, NC=C2=
=A0 </span><span style=3D"color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Comic Sans M=
S&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"bo=
rder:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;=
color:windowtext"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behal=
f Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, Octobe=
r 18, 2018 11:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> &#39;Bob Spidell&#39;; <a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>=
Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color<u></u><u></u></span></p></d=
iv></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:windowtext">Yes, these are the abso=
lute Go To people. Used to call themselves PamelaDavid and were pretty much=
 non-digital.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"=
EN-GB" style=3D"color:windowtext">They described my MkII badge as cloisonn=
=C3=A9 but they may have assumed that I didn=E2=80=99t know the difference.=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=
=3D"color:windowtext">They were indeed backlogged but it was worth it. 6+/-=
 weeks.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"=
 style=3D"color:windowtext">Simon<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:windowtext"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;pad=
ding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:wind=
owtext">From:</span></b><span style=3D"color:windowtext"> Healeys &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys-boun=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> =
17 October 2018 19:21<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Hea=
leys] Paint type and color<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p><span lan=
g=3D"EN-GB">While I normally wouldn&#39;t contradict Michael--he&#39;s a pr=
o and I&#39;m an amateur--that isn&#39;t correct.=C2=A0 What&#39;s in our b=
adges--until late BJ8s anyway, which were painted--is </span><strong><span =
lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;">Champlev=C3=A9:</span></strong><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"https://beautifulantiquetreasures=
.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-cloisonne-enam=
el/" target=3D"_blank">https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/tel=
ling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/</a><u></u><u></=
u></span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is usually cited as the goto plac=
e for badge restoration, but I hear they are horribly backlogged:<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"http://www.badgecraft.co.=
uk/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/</a><u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Bob<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang=3D"E=
N-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"E=
N-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></div>__________________________=
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I have been watching and learning a lot during this thread.  I felt it =
was time to offer the solution I am using regarding the repainting of my =
front badge.  After much searching of nail polishes -  first because I =
did not want a container of paint that would probably dry out before I =
needed it again and second I am somewhat frugal (c-h-e-a-p, pronounced =
=E2=80=9Cfrugal=E2=80=9D) - I settled on a nail polish named Petites by =
Scherer, #56, Blackberry.  This is very close to the original red and =
contains some very fine metal flake.  When viewed from a favorable =
direction, it reflects off the flakes slightly and can appear =
glass-like.  The attached picture shows some reflection of my camera =
flash off of the paint below the =E2=80=9C3000 Mk III=E2=80=9D.  I do =
not know if it is still available as I have not needed to purchase any =
recently.  Whatever polish or paint you use, the process would be the =
same.

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My process consisted of masking off the chrome side portions and wings =
of the badge.  I did not mask the =E2=80=9CAustin Healey=E2=80=9D or =
=E2=80=9C3000 Mk III=E2=80=9D script or the raised frames around the =
script.  Using a hobby spray gun, I sprayed several light coats of the =
polish over the entire badge.  With a very stiff sponge or a flat piece =
of wood with cloth wrapped around it, I wet the sponge or cloth with =
acetone (or maybe lacquer thinner?).  Because the script and the frames =
are at the same height, wiping across them removes the nail polish from =
those surfaces leaving them free of polish while not touching the polish =
in the depressions.

=20

Some experimentation is required.  It=E2=80=99s not concourse but more =
than adequate for me.

(The Other) Len
Fairfield, CA, USA
1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031

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polishes=20
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want a=20
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and=20
second I am somewhat frugal (c-h-e-a-p, pronounced =
=E2=80=9Cfrugal=E2=80=9D) - I settled on a=20
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style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>This is very close to the =
original red=20
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yes">&nbsp;=20
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consisted of masking off the chrome side portions and wings of the =
badge.<SPAN=20
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=E2=80=9CAustin Healey=E2=80=9D or=20
=E2=80=9C3000 Mk III=E2=80=9D script or the raised frames around the =
script.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Using a hobby spray gun, I =
sprayed=20
several light coats of the polish over the entire badge.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>With a very stiff sponge or a =
flat piece=20
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acetone (or=20
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Ooh!  I just got a look at a blow-up of my picture.  That looks =
terrible.  Be advised that the picture was taken a long time after the =
badge was painted.  Like I said, it looks good from a favorable =
distance.   ;-)

Len

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I think it looks great.

I used PamelaDavid for mine but they are local.

A few years ago,  our cat knocked a pile of logs onto the nose of my =
3000. Actually did some damage..dents here and there.

Insurance said OK so I took it to their local approved paint people.

=E2=80=9CA few days=E2=80=9D, they said which was fine.

I ring them up=E2=80=A6.=E2=80=9DNot quite finished=E2=80=9D. OK.

Again=E2=80=A6.=E2=80=9DNot quite finished.=E2=80=9D Beginning to =
wonder.

And again=E2=80=A6.=E2=80=9DNot quite finished=E2=80=9D. So, I think =
=E2=80=9CB*****ks to this=E2=80=9D and drive over. =
=E2=80=9CWhat=E2=80=99s happening? Where=E2=80=99s my car?=E2=80=9D

=E2=80=9CEr, it=E2=80=99s nearly finished=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D

Me, =E2=80=9CI want to see it. Now=E2=80=9D.

A lot of reluctance later, I find it. Repainted, but the badge is =
missing.

Me, =E2=80=9CWhere=E2=80=99s the badge?=E2=80=9D (It had recently be =
redone by PamealDavid).

=E2=80=9COh, we always replace badges in the event of front end =
damage.=E2=80=9D

Me, =E2=80=9CBut it was 100% undamaged=E2=80=9D.

Them, =E2=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s company policy and fortunately the new =
one=E2=80=99s just arrived.=E2=80=9D Produces a very nasty repro. =
=E2=80=9CWe=E2=80=99ve thrown the old one away. Company policy=E2=80=9D.

Me, =E2=80=9CEither you find it or I=E2=80=99m calling the police right =
now.=E2=80=9D

Them, actually a manger type,..=E2=80=9DWell, we might be able to =
search=E2=80=9D.

Me, =E2=80=9CRight, I=E2=80=99m calling them now.=E2=80=9D

Them, =E2=80=9COh, I just remember.=E2=80=9D Produces it from his desk =
drawer. I guess he=E2=80=99d have sold it or he was a collector.

Be careful of spray shops in Exeter, Devon!

Simon

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=20

From: Healeys <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Len and/or =
Marge Hartnett
Sent: 20 October 2018 01:44
To: AH Mail List <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color - ammendment

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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think it looks =
great.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I used PamelaDavid for mine but =
they are local.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>A few years ago, =C2=A0our cat =
knocked a pile of logs onto the nose of my 3000. Actually did some =
damage..dents here and there.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Insurance =
said OK so I took it to their local approved paint =
people.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>=E2=80=9CA few days=E2=80=9D, they =
said which was fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I ring them =
up=E2=80=A6.=E2=80=9DNot quite finished=E2=80=9D. =
OK.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Again=E2=80=A6.=E2=80=9DNot quite =
finished.=E2=80=9D Beginning to wonder.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>And =
again=E2=80=A6.=E2=80=9DNot quite finished=E2=80=9D. So, I think =
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=E2=80=9CWhat=E2=80=99s happening? Where=E2=80=99s my =
car?=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>=E2=80=9CEr, it=E2=80=99s nearly =
finished=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Me, =
=E2=80=9CI want to see it. Now=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>A lot of =
reluctance later, I find it. Repainted, but the badge is =
missing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Me, =E2=80=9CWhere=E2=80=99s the =
badge?=E2=80=9D (It had recently be redone by =
PamealDavid).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>=E2=80=9COh, we always replace =
badges in the event of front end =
damage.=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Me, =E2=80=9CBut it was 100% =
undamaged=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Them, =E2=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s company =
policy and fortunately the new one=E2=80=99s just arrived.=E2=80=9D =
Produces a very nasty repro. =E2=80=9CWe=E2=80=99ve thrown the old one =
away. Company policy=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Me, =
=E2=80=9CEither you find it or I=E2=80=99m calling the police right =
now.=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Them, actually a manger =
type,..=E2=80=9DWell, we might be able to =
search=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Me, =E2=80=9CRight, I=E2=80=99m =
calling them now.=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Them, =
=E2=80=9COh, I just remember.=E2=80=9D Produces it from his desk drawer. =
I guess he=E2=80=99d have sold it or he was a =
collector.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Be careful of spray shops in =
Exeter, Devon!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Len and/or =
Marge Hartnett<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 October 2018 01:44<br><b>To:</b> AH =
Mail List &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Paint type and color - =
ammendment<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ooh!&nbsp; I just got a look at a blow-up of my =
picture.&nbsp; That looks terrible.&nbsp; Be advised that the picture =
was taken a long time after the badge was painted.&nbsp; Like I said, it =
looks good from a favorable distance.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
;-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Len<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 20:48:53 +1100

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Hello Michael

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A piece of trivia that has interested me.

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>From looking at quite a few cars I believe that it was with the =
introduction of the BJ7. The flat Austin-Healey badge was phased out =
with the end of the 3000 Mk1 and the Mk2 BT7/BN7 was equipped with the =
raised badge, but it was still Austin-Healey. With the BJ7 it was Austin =
Healey.

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Why? That=E2=80=99s a mystery of life.

=20

Hoo Roo

=20

Patrick Quinn

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Michael Oritt
Sent: Saturday, 20 October 2018 8:08 AM
To: Steve Byers
Cc: Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color

=20

Without trying to hijack this thread perhaps I can get the ansdwer to a =
question I have been wondering about for a long time:  Does anyone know =
what drove the badge change from "Austin-Healey" on the early cars to =
"Austin Healey" on later cars?  While I know there is often no rhyme nor =
reason for variations in Healey equipment, etc. it appears that once the =
change was made it stayed that way and thus it appears to have been an =
intentional decision.

=20

I have heard one  explanation that the badge supplier mistakenly left =
out the hyphen and in order to get a break in price BMC accepted the =
order and stuck with the new badge design.  This smacks of cynical humor =
but perhaps it is true.

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Can anyone shed any light here?  =20

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Best--Michael Oritt

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hello =
Michael<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>A piece of trivia that has interested =
me.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>From looking at quite a few cars I believe that it was =
with the introduction of the BJ7. The flat Austin-Healey badge was =
phased out with the end of the 3000 Mk1 and the Mk2 BT7/BN7 was equipped =
with the raised badge, but it was still Austin-Healey. With the BJ7 it =
was Austin Healey.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Why? =
That=E2=80=99s a mystery of life.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hoo =
Roo<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Blue =
Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael =
Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 20 October 2018 8:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Steve Byers<br><b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Paint type and color<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Without trying to hijack =
this thread perhaps I can get the ansdwer to a question I have been =
wondering about for a long time:&nbsp; Does anyone know what drove the =
badge change from &quot;Austin-Healey&quot; on the early cars to =
&quot;Austin Healey&quot; on later cars?&nbsp; While I know there is =
often no rhyme nor reason for variations in Healey equipment, etc. it =
appears that once the change was made it stayed that way and thus it =
appears to have been an intentional =
decision.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I have heard one&nbsp; =
explanation that the badge supplier mistakenly left out the hyphen and =
in order to get a break in price BMC accepted the order and stuck with =
the new badge design.&nbsp; This smacks of cynical humor but perhaps it =
is true.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Can anyone shed any =
light here?&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
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FWIW my BJ7 has the raised badge with "Austin-Healey".  I think the hyphen
was an extra cost option.

Rick Neville

On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 8:22 AM Patrick & Caroline Quinn <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> From looking at quite a few cars I believe that it was with the
> introduction of the BJ7. The flat Austin-Healey badge was phased out with
> the end of the 3000 Mk1 and the Mk2 BT7/BN7 was equipped with the raised
> badge, but it was still Austin-Healey. With the BJ7 it was Austin Healey.
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Mi=
chael
> Oritt
> *Sent:* Saturday, 20 October 2018 8:08 AM
> *To:* Steve Byers
> *Cc:* Austin Healey
> the hyphen and in order to get a break in price BMC accepted the order an=
d
> stuck with the new badge design.  This smacks of cynical humor but perhap=
s
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">FWIW my BJ7 has the raised badge with &quot;Austin-Healey&=
quot;.=C2=A0 I think the hyphen was an extra cost option.<div><br></div><di=
v>Rick Neville</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">O=
n Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 8:22 AM Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-AU" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purp=
le"><div class=3D"m_-785113515764116919WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>Hello Michael<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">A piece of trivia that has interested me.<u></u>=
<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">From looking at quite a few cars I believe that it was with the intro=
duction of the BJ7. The flat Austin-Healey badge was phased out with the en=
d of the 3000 Mk1 and the Mk2 BT7/BN7 was equipped with the raised badge, b=
ut it was still Austin-Healey. With the BJ7 it was Austin Healey.<u></u><u>=
</u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">Why? That=E2=80=99s a mystery of life.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hoo Roo<u></u><u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">P=
atrick Quinn<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Blue Mountains, Austra=
lia<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of=
 </b>Michael Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 20 October 2018 8:08 AM<br><b>=
To:</b> Steve Byers<br><b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Hea=
leys] Paint type and color<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"colo=
r:#3333ff">Without trying to hijack this thread perhaps I can get the ansdw=
er to a question I have been wondering about for a long time:=C2=A0 Does an=
yone know what drove the badge change from &quot;Austin-Healey&quot; on the=
 early cars to &quot;Austin Healey&quot; on later cars?=C2=A0 While I know =
there is often no rhyme nor reason for variations in Healey equipment, etc.=
 it appears that once the change was made it stayed that way and thus it ap=
pears to have been an intentional decision.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333ff"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333ff=
">I have heard one=C2=A0 explanation that the badge supplier mistakenly lef=
t out the hyphen and in order to get a break in price BMC accepted the orde=
r and stuck with the new badge design.=C2=A0 This smacks of cynical humor b=
ut perhaps it is true.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"color:#3333ff"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333ff">Can anyone shed any=
 light here?=C2=A0 =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333ff"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Or=
itt<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
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There is also variation in repop badge stampings (I hijacked this thread 
for Michael).  Note in the photo that the top badge has the lettering 
raised with the letters having flat tops and vertical sides, whereas in 
the bottom badge the lettering is rounded--as would appear in a 
cross-section--and the letters are skinnier. To me, the former is much 
more appealing; but when ordering from different vendors it's a crapshoot.

On 10/20/2018 2:48 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote:
> introduction of the BJ7. The flat Austin-Healey badge was phased out 
> with the end of the 3000 Mk1 and the Mk2 BT7/BN7 was equipped with the 
> raised badge, but it was still Austin-Healey. With the BJ7 it was 
> Austin Healey.
>
> Why? That’s a mystery of life.
>
> Hoo Roo
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of 
> *Michael Oritt
> Without trying to hijack this thread perhaps I can get the ansdwer to 
> a question I have been wondering about for a long time:  Does anyone 
> know what drove the badge change from "Austin-Healey" on the early 
> cars to "Austin Healey" on later cars?  While I know there is often no 
> rhyme nor reason for variations in Healey equipment, etc. it appears 
> that once the change was made it stayed that way and thus it appears 
> to have been an intentional decision.
>
> I have heard one  explanation that the badge supplier mistakenly left 
> out the hyphen and in order to get a break in price BMC accepted the 
> order and stuck with the new badge design.  This smacks of cynical 
> humor but perhaps it is true.
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
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    <p>There is also variation in repop badge stampings (I hijacked this
      thread for Michael).  Note in the photo that the top badge has the
      lettering raised with the letters having flat tops and vertical
      sides, whereas in the bottom badge the lettering is rounded--as
      would appear in a cross-section--and the letters are skinnier.  
      To me, the former is much more appealing; but when ordering from
      different vendors it's a crapshoot.</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/20/2018 2:48 AM, Patrick &amp;
      Caroline Quinn wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Hello Michael<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">A piece of trivia that has interested me.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">From looking at quite a few cars I believe
          that it was with the introduction of the BJ7. The flat
          Austin-Healey badge was phased out with the end of the 3000
          Mk1 and the Mk2 BT7/BN7 was equipped with the raised badge,
          but it was still Austin-Healey. With the BJ7 it was Austin
          Healey.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Why? That’s a mystery of life.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Blue Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
            lang="EN-US"> Healeys
            [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael
            Oritt<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 20 October 2018 8:08 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Steve Byers<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#3333FF">Without
                trying to hijack this thread perhaps I can get the
                ansdwer to a question I have been wondering about for a
                long time:  Does anyone know what drove the badge change
                from "Austin-Healey" on the early cars to "Austin
                Healey" on later cars?  While I know there is often no
                rhyme nor reason for variations in Healey equipment,
                etc. it appears that once the change was made it stayed
                that way and thus it appears to have been an intentional
                decision.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#3333FF"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#3333FF">I have
                heard one  explanation that the badge supplier
                mistakenly left out the hyphen and in order to get a
                break in price BMC accepted the order and stuck with the
                new badge design.  This smacks of cynical humor but
                perhaps it is true.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#3333FF"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#3333FF">Can anyone
                shed any light here?   <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I think that the hyphen was dropped to identify more closely with the =
flair of Aston Martin (which is not hyphenated) and distance themselves =
from the pretentiousness of Rolls-Royce (which is hyphenated).  (my =
tongue is stuck firmly in my cheek.)

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Mirek

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob =
Spidell
Sent: October-20-18 11:22 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] Badges (was: Re: Paint type and color)

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There is also variation in repop badge stampings (I hijacked this thread =
for Michael).  Note in the photo that the top badge has the lettering =
raised with the letters having flat tops and vertical sides, whereas in =
the bottom badge the lettering is rounded--as would appear in a =
cross-section--and the letters are skinnier.   To me, the former is much =
more appealing; but when ordering from different vendors it's a =
crapshoot.

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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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text'>I think that the hyphen was dropped to identify more closely with =
the flair of Aston Martin (which is not hyphenated) and distance =
themselves from the pretentiousness of Rolls-Royce (which is =
hyphenated).=C2=A0 (my tongue is stuck firmly in my =
cheek.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> October-20-18 11:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Badges (was: Re: =
Paint type and color)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>There is also variation in =
repop badge stampings (I hijacked this thread for Michael).&nbsp; Note =
in the photo that the top badge has the lettering raised with the =
letters having flat tops and vertical sides, whereas in the bottom badge =
the lettering is rounded--as would appear in a cross-section--and the =
letters are skinnier.&nbsp;&nbsp; To me, the former is much more =
appealing; but when ordering from different vendors it's a =
crapshoot.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><img width=3D3264 =
height=3D2448 id=3D"_x0000_i1025" =
src=3D"cid:[email-masked]"><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 10/20/2018 2:48 AM, Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hello Michael<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>A piece of =
trivia that has interested me.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>From looking =
at quite a few cars I believe that it was with the introduction of the =
BJ7. The flat Austin-Healey badge was phased out with the end of the =
3000 Mk1 and the Mk2 BT7/BN7 was equipped with the raised badge, but it =
was still Austin-Healey. With the BJ7 it was Austin =
Healey.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Why? That=E2=80=99s a mystery of =
life.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Patrick =
Quinn<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Blue Mountains, =
Australia<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Oritt<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Saturday, 20 October 2018 8:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> Steve =
Byers<br><b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Paint =
type and color</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Without trying to hijack =
this thread perhaps I can get the ansdwer to a question I have been =
wondering about for a long time:&nbsp; Does anyone know what drove the =
badge change from &quot;Austin-Healey&quot; on the early cars to =
&quot;Austin Healey&quot; on later cars?&nbsp; While I know there is =
often no rhyme nor reason for variations in Healey equipment, etc. it =
appears that once the change was made it stayed that way and thus it =
appears to have been an intentional =
decision.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>I have heard one&nbsp; =
explanation that the badge supplier mistakenly left out the hyphen and =
in order to get a break in price BMC accepted the order and stuck with =
the new badge design.&nbsp; This smacks of cynical humor but perhaps it =
is true.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Can anyone shed any =
light here?&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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There still seems to be some confusion between the type of construction =
of the badge and the material that is in the colored part.

Cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9 are jewelers' terms that refer to how =
the badge is constructed, while the red material is either "vitreous =
enamel" or paint.

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>From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:

Definition of cloisonn=C3=A9 (adjective)

: of, relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the =
enamel is applied and fired in raised cells (as of soldered wires) on a =
usually metal background =E2=80=94 compare champlev=C3=A9 =
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Definition of champlev=C3=A9 (adjective)=20

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Based on these definitions, the BJ7/BJ8 badge construction is =
champlev=C3=A9, while the red material is vitreous enamel or paint.  =
Some have claimed that their badge never had either material but were =
plain chrome.

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HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob =
Spidell
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 2:21 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color

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lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>There still seems to be some confusion between =
the <u>type of construction</u> of the badge and the <u>material</u> =
that is in the colored part.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9 are jewelers' =
terms that refer to how the badge is constructed, while the red material =
is either &quot;vitreous enamel&quot; or paint.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>From the Merriam-Webster =
dictionary:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Definition of =
<i>cloisonn=C3=A9&nbsp;(adjective)</i><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>of, =
relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the enamel =
is applied and fired in <u>raised</u> cells (as of soldered wires) on a =
usually metal background =E2=80=94 compare <a =
href=3D"https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/champlev=C3=A9">champl=
ev=C3=A9</a> <br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Definition of <i>champlev=C3=A9 =
(adjective)&nbsp;</i><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>of, =
relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the enamel =
is applied and fired in cells <u>depressed</u> (as by incising) into a =
metal background =E2=80=94 compare <a =
href=3D"https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cloisonn=C3=A9">cloiso=
nn=C3=A9</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Definition of <i>vitreous enamel =
(noun)&nbsp;</i><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>: =
</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>a fired-on opaque glassy coating on steel or other =
metals <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>=E2=80=94 called also porcelain enamel =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Based on these definitions, the BJ7/BJ8 badge =
<u>construction</u> is champlev=C3=A9, while the red <u>material</u> is =
vitreous enamel or paint.=C2=A0 Some have claimed that their badge never =
had either material but were plain chrome.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 17, 2018 2:21 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Paint type and color<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>While I normally wouldn't =
contradict Michael--he's a pro and I'm an amateur--that isn't =
correct.&nbsp; What's in our badges--until late BJ8s anyway, which were =
painted--is <strong>Champlev=C3=A9:</strong><o:p></o:p></p><p><a =
href=3D"https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-diff=
erence-between-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/">https://beautifulantiquet=
reasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-cloi=
sonne-enamel/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p>This is usually cited as the goto =
place for badge restoration, but I hear they are horribly =
backlogged:<o:p></o:p></p><p><a =
href=3D"http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/">http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/</a><o:=
p></o:p></p><p>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
10/17/2018 4:17 AM, Michael Salter =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is not paint, it =
is&nbsp;<span =
style=3D'font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444;=
background:white'>cloisonn=C3=A9.</span><br>Thats a type of glass and =
paint just doesn't look the same.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>There are places where you can get it =
redone.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'>.</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><=
/div></blockquote><p =
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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 05:31:43 -0400

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Also note that for the upper badge in the photos the surface under the =
enamel is "stippled" or rough, while the same surface of the badge below =
is smooth.  The second type of badge is the one that was painted.

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Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

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=20

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Bob =
Spidell
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 11:22 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Healeys] Badges (was: Re: Paint type and color)

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the surface under the enamel is &quot;stippled&quot; or rough, while the =
same surface of the badge below is smooth.=C2=A0 The second type of =
badge is the one that was painted.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
</b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 20, 2018 11:22 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] =
Badges (was: Re: Paint type and =
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Steve and Fellow Listers,

There are two great vendors in the US.

Maxwell Enamels, Vista, CA...

http://www.maxwellenamels.com/Home_Page.html

I am a friend of the owner Karla Maxwell (25 years) and she has done work
for me an I have done work for her (Bakelite restoration).

*She is expensive, and for most badges just buy a quality one from Moss or
other vendors.*

Moss Motors has a very nice one for $134.00, $239.99 for MKII badges and
$249.99 for MKIII badges... Less on sale.

Expect to pay $250-$350 plus to have your original restored.

https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-wings?assoc=3D6725

https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-ii?assoc=3D7568

https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-iii?assoc=3D7569

The other vendor is Emblemagic in Grand River, OH...

http://emblemagic.com/

Ray Geschke is the owner, and also very knowledgeable.

Cheers,

Curt

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 3:49 AM BJ8Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:

> There still seems to be some confusion between the *type of construction*
> of the badge and the *material* that is in the colored part.
>
> Cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9 are jewelers' terms that refer to how t=
he badge is
> constructed, while the red material is either "vitreous enamel" or paint.
>
>
>
> *Definition of cloisonn=C3=A9 (adjective)*
>
> *: *of, relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the
> enamel is applied and fired in *raised* cells (as of soldered wires) on a
> usually metal background =E2=80=94 compare champlev=C3=A9
> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/champlev=C3=A9>
>
> *Definition of champlev=C3=A9 (adjective) *
>
> *: *of, relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the
> enamel is applied and fired in cells *depressed* (as by incising) into a
> metal background =E2=80=94 compare cloisonn=C3=A9
> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cloisonn=C3=A9>
>
>
>
> *Definition of vitreous enamel (noun) *
>
> *: *a fired-on opaque glassy coating on steel or other metals
>
> =E2=80=94 called also porcelain enamel
>
>
>
> Based on these definitions, the BJ7/BJ8 badge *construction* is
> champlev=C3=A9, while the red *material* is vitreous enamel or paint.  So=
me
> have claimed that their badge never had either material but were plain
> chrome.
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> HBJ8L/36666
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
> Havelock, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Bo=
b
> Spidell
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 17, 2018 2:21 PM
y,
> There are places where you can get it redone.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Steve and Fellow Listers,<div><br></div><div>The=
re are two great vendors in the US.</div><div><br></div><div>Maxwell Enamel=
s, Vista, CA...</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.maxwellename=
ls.com/Home_Page.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.maxwellenamels.com/Home=
_Page.html</a>=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I am a friend of the owner Ka=
rla Maxwell (25 years) and she has done work for me an I have done work for=
 her (Bakelite restoration).</div><div><br></div><div><b>She is expensive, =
and for most badges just buy a quality one from Moss or other vendors.</b><=
/div><div><br></div><div>Moss Motors has a very nice one for $134.00, $239.=
99 for MKII badges and $249.99 for MKIII badges... Less on sale.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Expect to pay $250-$350 plus to have your orig=
inal restored.</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/b=
adge-austin-healey-wings?assoc=3D6725" target=3D"_blank">https://mossmotors=
.com/badge-austin-healey-wings?assoc=3D6725</a></div><div><br></div><div><a=
 href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-ii?assoc=3D7568" tar=
get=3D"_blank">https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-ii?assoc=3D756=
8</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/badge-=
austin-healey-mk-iii?assoc=3D7569" target=3D"_blank">https://mossmotors.com=
/badge-austin-healey-mk-iii?assoc=3D7569</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>T=
he other vendor is Emblemagic in Grand River, OH...</div><div><br></div><di=
v><a href=3D"http://emblemagic.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://emblemagic.co=
m/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ray Geschke is the owner, and also very=
 knowledgeable.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>C=
urt</div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 3:49 AM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"white" lang=3D"EN-=
US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_-1985176752011894194m_-8=
72415036259332062m_-3947903033422735464WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;colo=
r:#002060">There still seems to be some confusion between the <u>type of co=
nstruction</u> of the badge and the <u>material</u> that is in the colored =
part.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Cloisonn=C3=
=A9 and champlev=C3=A9 are jewelers&#39; terms that refer to how the badge =
is constructed, while the red material is either &quot;vitreous enamel&quot=
; or paint.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">From the Merriam-=
Webster dictionary:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span=
 style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002=
060">Definition of <i>cloisonn=C3=A9=C2=A0(adjective)</i><u></u><u></u></sp=
an></b></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">: </span></b><span style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">of, r=
elating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in which the enamel is ap=
plied and fired in <u>raised</u> cells (as of soldered wires) on a usually =
metal background =E2=80=94 compare <a href=3D"https://www.merriam-webster.c=
om/dictionary/champlev=C3=A9" target=3D"_blank">champlev=C3=A9</a> <br><br>=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Definition of =
<i>champlev=C3=A9 (adjective)=C2=A0</i><u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic =
Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">of, relating to, or bei=
ng a style of enamel decoration in which the enamel is applied and fired in=
 cells <u>depressed</u> (as by incising) into a metal background =E2=80=94 =
compare <a href=3D"https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cloisonn=C3=
=A9" target=3D"_blank">cloisonn=C3=A9</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans=
 MS&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot=
;;color:#002060">Definition of <i>vitreous enamel (noun)=C2=A0</i><u></u><u=
></u></span></b></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">: </span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#0020=
60">a fired-on opaque glassy coating on steel or other metals <u></u><u></u=
></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">=E2=80=94 called also porcelai=
n enamel <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Based on these def=
initions, the BJ7/BJ8 badge <u>construction</u> is champlev=C3=A9, while th=
e red <u>material</u> is vitreous enamel or paint.=C2=A0 Some have claimed =
that their badge never had either material but were plain chrome.<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comi=
c Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Steve Byers</span><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"=
><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">HBJ8L/36666</spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;col=
or:#002060">BJ8 Registry</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span=
 style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002=
060">Havelock, NC=C2=A0 </span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padd=
ing:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtex=
t">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@a=
utox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesda=
y, October 17, 2018 2:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re=
: [Healeys] Paint type and color<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p>While I normally wouldn&#39;t c=
ontradict Michael--he&#39;s a pro and I&#39;m an amateur--that isn&#39;t co=
rrect.=C2=A0 What&#39;s in our badges--until late BJ8s anyway, which were p=
ainted--is <strong>Champlev=C3=A9:</strong><u></u><u></u></p><p><a href=3D"=
https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-bet=
ween-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/" target=3D"_blank">https://beautifulan=
tiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-=
cloisonne-enamel/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p>This is usually cited as the goto=
 place for badge restoration, but I hear they are horribly backlogged:<u></=
u><u></u></p><p><a href=3D"http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p>Bob<u></u><u></u></p><=
p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 10/17/2018 4:17 AM, Michael Salter wrote:<u></=
u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0p=
t"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bad news Lin, the red in the badges is =
not paint, it is=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size:24.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#444444;background:white">cloisonn=C3=
=A9.</span><br>Thats a type of glass and paint just doesn&#39;t look the sa=
me.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There are places where you can get it=
 redone.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></p></div><div><div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid=
 #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in=
"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"colo=
r:#002060">.</span><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div></block=
quote><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div>__________=
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"... *just buy a quality one from Moss or other vendors"*

FWIW, I've bought several from different vendors--including Moss 
IIRC--and, as someone pointed out, the coloring (enamel, paint, 
whatever) doesn't last because it was applied to chrome.
**

On 10/22/2018 7:11 AM, Curtis Arndt wrote:
> I am a friend of the owner Karla Maxwell (25 years) and she has done 
> work for me an I have done work for her (Bakelite restoration).
>
> *She is expensive, and for most badges just buy a quality one from 
> Moss or other vendors.*
>
> Moss Motors has a very nice one for $134.00, $239.99 for MKII badges 
> and $249.99 for MKIII badges... Less on sale.
>
> https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-wings?assoc=6725
>
> https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-ii?assoc=7568
>
> https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-iii?assoc=7569
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 3:49 AM BJ8Healeys <[email-masked] 
>
>     There still seems to be some confusion between the _type of
>     construction_ of the badge and the _material_ that is in the
>     colored part.
>
>     Cloisonné and champlevé are jewelers' terms that refer to how the
>     badge is constructed, while the red material is either "vitreous
>     enamel" or paint.
>
>     *Definition of /cloisonné (adjective)/*
>
>     *: *of, relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in
>     which the enamel is applied and fired in _raised_ cells (as of
>     soldered wires) on a usually metal background — compare champlevé
>     <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/champlev%C3%A9>
>
>     *Definition of /champlevé (adjective) /*
>
>     *: *of, relating to, or being a style of enamel decoration in
>     which the enamel is applied and fired in cells _depressed_ (as by
>     incising) into a metal background — compare cloisonné
>     <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cloisonn%C3%A9>
>
>     *Definition of /vitreous enamel (noun) /*
>
>     — called also porcelain enamel
>
>     Based on these definitions, the BJ7/BJ8 badge _construction_ is
>     champlevé, while the red _material_ is vitreous enamel or paint. 
>     Some have claimed that their badge never had either material but
>     were plain chrome.
>
>     Steve Byers
>
>     HBJ8L/36666
>
>     BJ8 Registry
>
>     AHCA Delegate at Large
>
>     Havelock, NC
>
>

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    <p>"... <b> just buy a quality one from Moss or other vendors"</b></p>
    FWIW, I've bought several from different vendors--including Moss
    IIRC--and, as someone pointed out, the coloring (enamel, paint,
    whatever) doesn't last because it was applied to chrome.<br>
    <b></b><br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/22/2018 7:11 AM, Curtis Arndt
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:[email-masked]">
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              <div dir="ltr">
                <div dir="ltr">Steve and Fellow Listers,
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>There are two great vendors in the US.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Maxwell Enamels, Vista, CA...</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><a
                      href="http://www.maxwellenamels.com/Home_Page.html"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.maxwellenamels.com/Home_Page.html</a> </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>I am a friend of the owner Karla Maxwell (25
                    years) and she has done work for me an I have done
                    work for her (Bakelite restoration).</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><b>She is expensive, and for most badges just buy
                      a quality one from Moss or other vendors.</b></div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Moss Motors has a very nice one for $134.00,
                    $239.99 for MKII badges and $249.99 for MKIII
                    badges... Less on sale.  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Expect to pay $250-$350 plus to have your
                    original restored.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><a
                      href="https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-wings?assoc=6725"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-wings?assoc=6725</a></div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><a
                      href="https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-ii?assoc=7568"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-ii?assoc=7568</a><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><a
                      href="https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-iii?assoc=7569"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://mossmotors.com/badge-austin-healey-mk-iii?assoc=7569</a><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>The other vendor is Emblemagic in Grand River,
                    OH...</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><a href="http://emblemagic.com/" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">http://emblemagic.com/</a><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Ray Geschke is the owner, and also very
                    knowledgeable.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Cheers,</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Curt</div>
                </div>
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      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr">On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 3:49 AM BJ8Healeys &lt;<a
            href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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class="m_-1985176752011894194m_-872415036259332062m_-3947903033422735464WordSection1">
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                  MS&quot;;color:#002060">There still seems to be some
                  confusion between the <u>type of construction</u> of
                  the badge and the <u>material</u> that is in the
                  colored part.</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                  MS&quot;;color:#002060">Cloisonné and champlevé are
                  jewelers' terms that refer to how the badge is
                  constructed, while the red material is either
                  "vitreous enamel" or paint.</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                  MS&quot;;color:#002060"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                  MS&quot;;color:#002060">From the Merriam-Webster
                  dictionary:</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                    MS&quot;;color:#002060">Definition of <i>cloisonné (adjective)</i></span></b></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                    MS&quot;;color:#002060">: </span></b><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                  MS&quot;;color:#002060">of, relating to, or being a
                  style of enamel decoration in which the enamel is
                  applied and fired in <u>raised</u> cells (as of
                  soldered wires) on a usually metal background —
                  compare <a
                    href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/champlev%C3%A9"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">champlevé</a>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                    MS&quot;;color:#002060">Definition of <i>champlevé
                      (adjective) </i></span></b></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                    MS&quot;;color:#002060">: </span></b><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                  MS&quot;;color:#002060">of, relating to, or being a
                  style of enamel decoration in which the enamel is
                  applied and fired in cells <u>depressed</u> (as by
                  incising) into a metal background — compare <a
                    href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cloisonn%C3%A9"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cloisonné</a>
                </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                  MS&quot;;color:#002060"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                    MS&quot;;color:#002060">Definition of <i>vitreous
                      enamel (noun) </i></span></b></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                    MS&quot;;color:#002060">: </span></b><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                  MS&quot;;color:#002060">a fired-on opaque glassy
                  coating on steel or other metals </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                  MS&quot;;color:#002060">— called also porcelain enamel
                </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                  MS&quot;;color:#002060"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                  MS&quot;;color:#002060">Based on these definitions,
                  the BJ7/BJ8 badge <u>construction</u> is champlevé,
                  while the red <u>material</u> is vitreous enamel or
                  paint.  Some have claimed that their badge never had
                  either material but were plain chrome.</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                  MS&quot;;color:#002060"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                  MS&quot;;color:#002060"> </span></p>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                    MS&quot;;color:#002060">Steve Byers</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                    MS&quot;;color:#002060">HBJ8L/36666</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                    MS&quot;;color:#002060">BJ8 Registry</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                    MS&quot;;color:#002060">AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans
                    MS&quot;;color:#002060">Havelock, NC  </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"></span></p>
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