Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil

From: "Charlie Schott" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 08:45:20 -0500

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Will someone please tell me what weight of oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox =
with overdrive. Thanks.

Regards,

Charlie Schott

From: Richard Kahn=20
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 4:14 PM
To: Richard Ewald=20
Cc: [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Differential oil

My spell check did it.

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From: Richard Ewald <[email-masked]>
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To: Richard Kahn
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Differential oil=20

hap=C2=B7loid
=CB=88hap=CB=8Cloid/GENETICSadjective
  1.. 1.(of a cell or nucleus) having a single set of unpaired =
chromosomes.
    a.. noun
  1.. 1.a haploid organism or cell.

Your differential has a single set of unpaired chromosomes?  =
Fascinating. =20
My Hypoid differential has all paired chromosomes. =20
Rick

On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Richard Kahn <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

  I need to add fluid to the haploid differential but I cannot find the =
weight needed. I have looked in all my manuals but nothing about the =
weight. (BJ8 phase 1)

  Thanks

  Rich Kahn

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overdrive. Thanks.</DIV>
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weight.=20
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From: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]>
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Another question that will result in a lot of different opinions.  I've =
always used 30-weight non-detergent oil in my gearbox and overdrive.  =
Non-detergent according to the theory that because there is no oil =
filter in the system non-detergent oil allows any wear particles to =
settle out of the oil instead of being continuously circulated through =
the mechanicals.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC =20

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From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Charlie Schott
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:45 AM
To: Richard Kahn; Richard Ewald
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil

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MS";color:#002060'>Another question that will result in a lot of =
different opinions.=C2=A0 I've always used 30-weight non-detergent oil =
in my gearbox and overdrive.=C2=A0 Non-detergent according to the theory =
that because there is no oil filter in the system non-detergent oil =
allows any wear particles to settle out of the oil instead of being =
continuously circulated through the mechanicals.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
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Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
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0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span =
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0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; </span><span =
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0'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Charlie Schott<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:45 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Richard Kahn; Richard Ewald<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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please tell me what weight of oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox with =
overdrive. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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From: Derek Job <[email-masked]>
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I agree with Steve. I'm now using Penrite GB30 Gearbox oil.

Derek

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 4:06 PM, BJ8Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Another question that will result in a lot of different opinions.  I've
> always used 30-weight non-detergent oil in my gearbox and overdrive.
> Non-detergent according to the theory that because there is no oil filter
> in the system non-detergent oil allows any wear particles to settle out of
> the oil instead of being continuously circulated through the mechanicals.
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> HBJ8L/36666
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
> Havelock, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *Charlie
> Schott
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:45 AM
> *To:* Richard Kahn; Richard Ewald
> *Cc:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil
>
>
>
> Will someone please tell me what weight of oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox
> with overdrive. Thanks.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Charlie Schott
>
>
>
>
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/
> options/healeys/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I agree with Steve. I&#39;m now using Penrite GB30 Gearbox=
 oil.<div><br></div><div>Derek</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 4:06 PM, BJ8Healeys <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">sbyers=
@ec.rr.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lan=
g=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_4914191922555258=
792WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Another question that wil=
l result in a lot of different opinions.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve always used 30-weig=
ht non-detergent oil in my gearbox and overdrive.=C2=A0 Non-detergent accor=
ding to the theory that because there is no oil filter in the system non-de=
tergent oil allows any wear particles to settle out of the oil instead of b=
eing continuously circulated through the mechanicals.<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic=
 Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Steve Byers</span><span style=3D"font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060">=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">HBJ8L/36666</span=
><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;colo=
r:#002060">BJ8 Registry</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#0020=
60">Havelock, NC=C2=A0 </span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></sp=
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quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
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ont-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;paddi=
ng:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.<wbr>team.net</a>] <b>On Behal=
f Of </b>Charlie Schott<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:45 AM<=
br><b>To:</b> Richard Kahn; Richard Ewald<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:h=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>S=
ubject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><=
span class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Will someone please tell me what weight o=
f oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox with overdrive. Thanks.<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calib=
ri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri=
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I tried Redline at one point and the gearbox leaked profusely.  Changed =
back to 30wtnd and now only have the typical drips.

Moral to the story: all our cars are different so what works for one may =
not work for others.
> On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:06 PM, BJ8Healeys <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Another question that will result in a lot of different opinions.  =
I've always used 30-weight non-detergent oil in my gearbox and =
overdrive.  Non-detergent according to the theory that because there is =
no oil filter in the system non-detergent oil allows any wear particles =
to settle out of the oil instead of being continuously circulated =
through the mechanicals.
> =20
> Steve Byers
> HBJ8L/36666
> BJ8 Registry
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> Havelock, NC =20
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charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">I tried Redline at one point and the gearbox leaked =
profusely. &nbsp;Changed back to 30wtnd and now only have the typical =
drips.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Moral to the =
story: all our cars are different so what works for one may not work for =
others.<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:06 PM, BJ8Healeys =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
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normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, =
32, 96);" class=3D"">Another question that will result in a lot of =
different opinions.&nbsp; I've always used 30-weight non-detergent oil =
in my gearbox and overdrive.&nbsp; Non-detergent according to the theory =
that because there is no oil filter in the system non-detergent oil =
allows any wear particles to settle out of the oil instead of being =
continuously circulated through the mechanicals.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, =
32, 96);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, =
32, 96);" class=3D"">Steve Byers</span><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D""><o:p =
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New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
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text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">[email-masked]</a><br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Healeys] Gearbox =
oil<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
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font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Will someone =
please tell me what weight of oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox with =
overdrive. Thanks.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
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The subject of gearbox oils has be discussed on this list more than once.
I am not advocating the use of gear oil in these boxes but the subject is
sure to be raised again..
In the interests of saving some band width a couple of points.

   1.  No one has ever reported seeing any evidence of Extreme Pressure
   (EP) additives damaging the bronze syncro rings in our gearboxes.
   2.  Laycock DeNormanville, the manufacturer of our overdrive units DO
   NOT specify what lubricant is used in their overdrive units, they leave
   that up to the manufacturer of the gearbox to which it is attached and
   shares its lubricant.  EP oils will not adversely affect the overdrive
   unit, in fact 80/90 gear oil was the factory recommendation for the TR6
   with either type of overdrive "A" or "J".

Now back to regularly scheduled program :-)

Michael S
BN1 #174

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">The subject of gearbox oils has be discus=
sed on this list more than once.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">I am not advocat=
ing the use of gear oil in these boxes but the subject is sure to be raised=
 again..<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic s=
ans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">In the interests of saving some band wid=
th a couple of points.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><ol><li>=C2=A0No one has e=
ver reported seeing any evidence of Extreme Pressure (EP) additives damagin=
g the bronze syncro rings in our gearboxes.</li><li>=C2=A0Laycock DeNormanv=
ille, the manufacturer of our overdrive units DO NOT specify what lubricant=
 is used in their overdrive units, they leave that up to the manufacturer o=
f the gearbox to which it is attached and shares its lubricant.=C2=A0 EP oi=
ls will not adversely affect the overdrive unit, in fact 80/90 gear oil was=
 the factory recommendation for the TR6 with either type of overdrive &quot=
;A&quot; or &quot;J&quot;.<br></li></ol></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Now back to =
regularly scheduled program :-)<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michael S<br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-=
serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Derek Job <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I agree with Steve. I&#39;m now using Penrite GB30 G=
earbox oil.<div><br></div><div>Derek</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"h5">On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 a=
t 4:06 PM, BJ8Healeys <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div link=3D"blue" =
vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"m_-4732490693386536185m_49141=
91922555258792WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Another questi=
on that will result in a lot of different opinions.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve always u=
sed 30-weight non-detergent oil in my gearbox and overdrive.=C2=A0 Non-dete=
rgent according to the theory that because there is no oil filter in the sy=
stem non-detergent oil allows any wear particles to settle out of the oil i=
nstead of being continuously circulated through the mechanicals.<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span><=
/p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
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ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">HBJ8L/=
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"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS=
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mal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;=
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t</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
</div></div><span><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Will someone please tell me what weight=
 of oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox with overdrive. Thanks.<u></u><u></u></span=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span><=
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30wt non detergent. 

Drips? Hard to tell but I don't think so. Certainly no more than before.

Gear change/overdrive??......just about noticeable improvement on previous
20/50. 

Better for the gearbox's internals? The jury remains out on that one!

Worth it? Well there's nothing earth shatteringly different. Do it if you're
draining anyhow. Or if you are having sluggish OD changes...might help.

Overall observations:- 1) make sure that you've got the filter and the
magnets. Doesn't make much difference what oil you use if they're missing.

2) Consider swapping the mad notched drain plug monstrosity for the earlier
one with the spanner/socket friendly hex. Once that's done, the whole
process becomes much easier. 

Steve's right.....this topic is a real Golden Oldie.

You'll have noticed that threads related to the choice of oils brings out
some fairly spirited remarks!?

Simon

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Team.net
Sent: 01 November 2016 18:20
To: BJ8Healeys
Cc: Ahealey help
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil

I tried Redline at one point and the gearbox leaked profusely.  Changed back
to 30wtnd and now only have the typical drips.

Moral to the story: all our cars are different so what works for one may not
work for others.

Another question that will result in a lot of different opinions.  I've
always used 30-weight non-detergent oil in my gearbox and overdrive.
Non-detergent according to the theory that because there is no oil filter in
the system non-detergent oil allows any wear particles to settle out of the
oil instead of being continuously circulated through the mechanicals.

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  

mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Charlie Schott
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:45 AM
To: Richard Kahn; Richard Ewald
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil

Will someone please tell me what weight of oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox with
overdrive. Thanks.

Regards,

Charlie Schott

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>30wt non detergent. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Drips? Hard to tell but I don&#8217;t think so. Certainly no more =
than before.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Gear change/overdrive??......just about noticeable improvement on =
previous 20/50. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Better for the gearbox&#8217;s internals? The jury remains out on =
that one!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Worth it? Well there&#8217;s nothing earth shatteringly different. Do =
it if you&#8217;re draining anyhow. Or if you are having sluggish OD =
changes...might help.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Overall observations:- 1) make sure that you&#8217;ve got the filter =
and the magnets. Doesn&#8217;t make much difference what oil you use if =
they&#8217;re missing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>2) Consider swapping the mad notched drain plug monstrosity for the =
earlier one with the spanner/socket friendly hex. Once that&#8217;s =
done, the whole process becomes much easier. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Steve&#8217;s right.....this topic is a real Golden =
Oldie.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>You&#8217;ll have noticed that threads related to the choice of oils =
brings out some fairly spirited remarks!?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Team.net<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 November 2016 18:20<br><b>To:</b> =
BJ8Healeys<br><b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Gearbox oil<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I tried =
Redline at one point and the gearbox leaked profusely. &nbsp;Changed =
back to 30wtnd and now only have the typical =
drips.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Moral to the story: all our cars are different so what =
works for one may not work for =
others.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:06 PM, BJ8Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Another question that will result in a lot of =
different opinions.&nbsp; I've always used 30-weight non-detergent oil =
in my gearbox and overdrive.&nbsp; Non-detergent according to the theory =
that because there is no oil filter in the system non-detergent oil =
allows any wear particles to settle out of the oil instead of being =
continuously circulated through the =
mechanicals.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 Registry</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at =
Large</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC&nbsp;<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00206=
0'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div =
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0cm 0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span=
></span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Healeys [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>mailto:[email-masked]</span></a>]<=
span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></b>Charlie =
Schott<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, November 01, 2016 =
9:45 AM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Richard Kahn; Richard =
Ewald<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>[email-masked]</span></a><br><b>Subject:</=
b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Re: [Healeys] Gearbox =
oil</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Will someone please tell me =
what weight of oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox with overdrive. =
Thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>=
</div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>=
</div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Charlie =
Schott</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>=
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If there are bronze/brass baulk/synchro rings in the gearbox it is best 
to be on the safe side and not use EP oils that contain halogens F, Cl, 
Br, I as these may attack the bronze/brass components. Sunbeam for that 
matter stipulated to use SEA 30 or 20W50 engine oil. I do not see a 
reason to take the risk using EP oils. They do not ad much if anything. 
Straight or detergent containing does not matter much if you change the 
oil on a regular basis as prescribed in those days. Oil is cheap so I 
change the oil in my gearbox every time I change the engine oil, i.e. 
once a year. Use a drain plug with a magnet.

Modern gearboxes may not even have a drain plug as the oil is never 
changed and we have become used to that!

Kees Oudesluijs

Op 2-11-2016 om 1:21 schreef Simon Lachlan:
>
> 30wt non detergent.
>
> Drips? Hard to tell but I don’t think so. Certainly no more than before.
>
> Gear change/overdrive??......just about noticeable improvement on 
> previous 20/50.
>
> Better for the gearbox’s internals? The jury remains out on that one!
>
> Worth it? Well there’s nothing earth shatteringly different. Do it if 
> you’re draining anyhow. Or if you are having sluggish OD 
> changes...might help.
>
> Overall observations:- 1) make sure that you’ve got the filter and the 
> magnets. Doesn’t make much difference what oil you use if they’re missing.
>
> 2) Consider swapping the mad notched drain plug monstrosity for the 
> earlier one with the spanner/socket friendly hex. Once that’s done, 
> the whole process becomes much easier.
>
> Steve’s right.....this topic is a real Golden Oldie.
>
> You’ll have noticed that threads related to the choice of oils brings 
> out some fairly spirited remarks!?
>
> Simon
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of 
> *Team.net
> *Sent:* 01 November 2016 18:20
> *To:* BJ8Healeys
> *Cc:* Ahealey help
> I tried Redline at one point and the gearbox leaked profusely. 
>  Changed back to 30wtnd and now only have the typical drips.
>
> Moral to the story: all our cars are different so what works for one 
> may not work for others.
>
>     On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:06 PM, BJ8Healeys <[email-masked]
>
>     Another question that will result in a lot of different opinions.
>     I've always used 30-weight non-detergent oil in my gearbox and
>     overdrive.  Non-detergent according to the theory that because
>     there is no oil filter in the system non-detergent oil allows any
>     wear particles to settle out of the oil instead of being
>     continuously circulated through the mechanicals.
>
>     Steve Byers
>
>     HBJ8L/36666
>
>     BJ8 Registry
>
>     AHCA Delegate at Large
>
>     Havelock, NC
>
>     *From:*Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]]*On Behalf
>     Of*Charlie Schott
>     *Sent:*Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:45 AM
>     *To:*Richard Kahn; Richard Ewald
>     *Subject:*Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil
>
>     Will someone please tell me what weight of oil to use in a BJ8
>     gearbox with overdrive. Thanks.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Charlie Schott
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">If there are bronze/brass baulk/synchro
      rings in the gearbox it is best to be on the safe side and not use
      EP oils that contain halogens F, Cl, Br, I as these may attack the
      bronze/brass components. Sunbeam for that matter stipulated to use
      SEA 30 or 20W50 engine oil. I do not see a reason to take the risk
      using EP oils. They do not ad much if anything. Straight or
      detergent containing does not matter much if you change the oil on
      a regular basis as prescribed in those days. Oil is cheap so I
      change the oil in my gearbox every time I change the engine oil,
      i.e. once a year. Use a drain plug with a magnet.<br>
      <br>
      Modern gearboxes may not even have a drain plug as the oil is
      never changed and we have become used to that!<br>
      <br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Op 2-11-2016 om 1:21 schreef Simon Lachlan:<br>
    </div>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>30wt non detergent. </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Drips? Hard to tell but I don’t think
            so. Certainly no more than before.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Gear change/overdrive??......just
            about noticeable improvement on previous 20/50. </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Better for the gearbox’s internals?
            The jury remains out on that one!</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Worth it? Well there’s nothing earth
            shatteringly different. Do it if you’re draining anyhow. Or
            if you are having sluggish OD changes...might help.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Overall observations:- 1) make sure
            that you’ve got the filter and the magnets. Doesn’t make
            much difference what oil you use if they’re missing.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>2) Consider swapping the mad notched
            drain plug monstrosity for the earlier one with the
            spanner/socket friendly hex. Once that’s done, the whole
            process becomes much easier. </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Steve’s right.....this topic is a
            real Golden Oldie.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>You’ll have noticed that threads
            related to the choice of oils brings out some fairly
            spirited remarks!?</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
        <div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> Healeys
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Team.net<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 01 November 2016 18:20<br>
                <b>To:</b> BJ8Healeys<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil</span></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I tried Redline at one point and the
          gearbox leaked profusely.  Changed back to 30wtnd and now only
          have the typical drips.</p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Moral to the story: all our cars are
            different so what works for one may not work for others.</p>
          <div>
            <div>
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                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:06 PM,
                    BJ8Healeys &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                    wrote:</p>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Another question that
                        will result in a lot of different opinions. 
                        I've always used 30-weight non-detergent oil in
                        my gearbox and overdrive.  Non-detergent
                        according to the theory that because there is no
                        oil filter in the system non-detergent oil
                        allows any wear particles to settle out of the
                        oil instead of being continuously circulated
                        through the mechanicals.</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Steve Byers</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>HBJ8L/36666</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>BJ8 Registry</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>AHCA Delegate at Large</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Havelock, NC <span
                            class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span
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                            [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                            November 01, 2016 9:45 AM<br>
                            <b>To:</b><span
                              class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Richard
                            Kahn; Richard Ewald<br>
                            <b>Cc:</b><span
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Will someone please
                              tell me what weight of oil to use in a BJ8
                              gearbox with overdrive. Thanks.</span></p>
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EP lubes are formulated with an anti-friction additive especially for use i=
n hypoid gear sets. That is because hypoid gears use a sliding contact rath=
er than a rolling contact and the EP additive is required eliminate frictio=
n and to allow them to survive in use.

EP lubes should not be used in mechanisms that require built in friction to=
 operate properly such as synchronizer rings in transmissions or limited sl=
ip differentials.

Detergents in oils are intended to suspend microscopic contaminants such as=
 soot particles in engine oil so it doesn't settle out and form deposits in=
 oil passages. I will not suspend large particles such as brass or iron fil=
ings.

Bill Lawrence

BN1#554

________________________________
From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Oudesluys <coud=
[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:24:38 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil

If there are bronze/brass baulk/synchro rings in the gearbox it is best to =
be on the safe side and not use EP oils that contain halogens F, Cl, Br, I =
as these may attack the bronze/brass components. Sunbeam for that matter st=
ipulated to use SEA 30 or 20W50 engine oil. I do not see a reason to take t=
he risk using EP oils. They do not ad much if anything. Straight or deterge=
nt containing does not matter much if you change the oil on a regular basis=
 as prescribed in those days. Oil is cheap so I change the oil in my gearbo=
x every time I change the engine oil, i.e. once a year. Use a drain plug wi=
th a magnet.

Modern gearboxes may not even have a drain plug as the oil is never changed=
 and we have become used to that!

Kees Oudesluijs

Op 2-11-2016 om 1:21 schreef Simon Lachlan:
30wt non detergent.
Drips? Hard to tell but I don=92t think so. Certainly no more than before.
Gear change/overdrive??......just about noticeable improvement on previous =
20/50.
Better for the gearbox=92s internals? The jury remains out on that one!
Worth it? Well there=92s nothing earth shatteringly different. Do it if you=
=92re draining anyhow. Or if you are having sluggish OD changes...might hel=
p.
Overall observations:- 1) make sure that you=92ve got the filter and the ma=
gnets. Doesn=92t make much difference what oil you use if they=92re missing=
.
2) Consider swapping the mad notched drain plug monstrosity for the earlier=
 one with the spanner/socket friendly hex. Once that=92s done, the whole pr=
ocess becomes much easier.

Steve=92s right.....this topic is a real Golden Oldie.
You=92ll have noticed that threads related to the choice of oils brings out=
 some fairly spirited remarks!?
Simon

I tried Redline at one point and the gearbox leaked profusely.  Changed bac=
k to 30wtnd and now only have the typical drips.

Moral to the story: all our cars are different so what works for one may no=
t work for others.
rr.com>> wrote:

Another question that will result in a lot of different opinions.  I've alw=
ays used 30-weight non-detergent oil in my gearbox and overdrive.  Non-dete=
rgent according to the theory that because there is no oil filter in the sy=
stem non-detergent oil allows any wear particles to settle out of the oil i=
nstead of being continuously circulated through the mechanicals.

Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC

From: Healeys [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Charlie =
Schott
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:45 AM
To: Richard Kahn; Richard Ewald
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil

Will someone please tell me what weight of oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox with=
 overdrive. Thanks.

Regards,

Charlie Schott

[email-masked]

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<p>EP lubes are formulated with an anti-friction additive especially for us=
e in hypoid gear sets. That is because hypoid gears use a sliding contact r=
ather than a rolling contact and the EP additive is required eliminate fric=
tion and&nbsp;to allow them to survive
 in use.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>EP lubes should not be used in mechanisms that require built in friction=
 to operate properly such as synchronizer rings in transmissions&nbsp;or li=
mited slip differentials.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Detergents in oils are intended to suspend microscopic contaminants such=
 as soot particles in engine oil so it doesn't settle out and form deposits=
 in oil passages. I will not suspend large particles such as brass or iron =
filings.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Bill Lawrence</p>
<p>BN1#554</p>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healeys-b=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Oudesluys &lt;[email-masked]&=
gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:24:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil</font>
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<div>
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">If there are bronze/brass baulk/synchro ring=
s in the gearbox it is best to be on the safe side and not use EP oils that=
 contain halogens F, Cl, Br, I as these may attack the bronze/brass compone=
nts. Sunbeam for that matter stipulated
 to use SEA 30 or 20W50 engine oil. I do not see a reason to take the risk =
using EP oils. They do not ad much if anything. Straight or detergent conta=
ining does not matter much if you change the oil on a regular basis as pres=
cribed in those days. Oil is cheap
 so I change the oil in my gearbox every time I change the engine oil, i.e.=
 once a year. Use a drain plug with a magnet.<br>
<br>
Modern gearboxes may not even have a drain plug as the oil is never changed=
 and we have become used to that!<br>
<br>
Kees Oudesluijs<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Op 2-11-2016 om 1:21 schreef Simon Lachlan:<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>30wt non detergent. </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Drips? Hard to tell but I don=92t think so. Ce=
rtainly no more than before.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Gear change/overdrive??......just about notice=
able improvement on previous 20/50.
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Better for the gearbox=92s internals? The jury=
 remains out on that one!</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Worth it? Well there=92s nothing earth shatter=
ingly different. Do it if you=92re draining anyhow. Or if you are having sl=
uggish OD changes...might help.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Overall observations:- 1) make sure that you=
=92ve got the filter and the magnets. Doesn=92t make much difference what o=
il you use if they=92re missing.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>2) Consider swapping the mad notched drain plu=
g monstrosity for the earlier one with the spanner/socket friendly hex. Onc=
e that=92s done, the whole process becomes much easier.
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Steve=92s right.....this topic is a real Golde=
n Oldie.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>You=92ll have noticed that threads related to =
the choice of oils brings out some fairly spirited remarks!?</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Healeys [<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:heal=
[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Team.net<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 01 November 2016 18:20<br>
<b>To:</b> BJ8Healeys<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil</span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I tried Redline at one point and the gearbox leaked =
profusely. &nbsp;Changed back to 30wtnd and now only have the typical drips=
.</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Moral to the story: all our cars are different so wh=
at works for one may not work for others.</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:06 PM, BJ8Healeys &lt;<a moz-d=
o-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:</p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Another question that will result in a lot of =
different opinions.&nbsp; I've always used 30-weight non-detergent oil in m=
y gearbox and overdrive.&nbsp; Non-detergent according to the theory that b=
ecause there is no oil filter in the system
 non-detergent oil allows any wear particles to settle out of the oil inste=
ad of being continuously circulated through the mechanicals.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Steve Byers</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>HBJ8L/36666</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>BJ8 Registry</span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>AHCA Delegate at Large</span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Havelock, NC&nbsp;<span class=3D"apple-convert=
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ted-space"><span>&nbsp;</span></span><span>Healeys [<a moz-do-not-send=3D"t=
rue" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span>mailto:healeys-bo=
[email-masked]</span></a>]<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp=
;</span><b>On
 Behalf Of<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Charlie Sc=
hott<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, Nov=
ember 01, 2016 9:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Richard Kahn; =
Richard Ewald<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-=
send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span>[email-masked]=
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<b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Heal=
eys] Gearbox oil</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Will someone please tell me what weight of oil=
 to use in a BJ8 gearbox with overdrive. Thanks.</span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Regards,</span></p>
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What about the brass shifting forks? This is one of the more lucid explanations I've seen: http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/28958/ep-additives-effects 

IMO, it's pretty hard to beat this stuff: https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=46&pcid=7 I tried it because it seemed my OD was slower to engage when hot. I wasn't expecting it--so no confirmation bias--but I thought the gearbox shifted a little smoother, and the OD did engage a little quicker. Have used it for 60-80K miles or more (I really should keep track of this stuff). Not an objective analysis, but it appears there is less brass 'shake' suspended in the fluid at changes, and I only change it out every 50K miles or so. 

On ATF in gearboxes: Ford calls for Mercon V in the Tremec 3650 in my Mustang. I thought shifts were a little notchy, so tried Royal Purple Synchromax on someone's recommendation. Seemed to help a bit; almost 122K miles on the gearbox with no issues. 

Bob 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked]> 
To: "Forum" <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 2:14:27 PM 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil 

The subject of gearbox oils has be discussed on this list more than once. 
I am not advocating the use of gear oil in these boxes but the subject is sure to be raised again.. 
In the interests of saving some band width a couple of points. 

    1. No one has ever reported seeing any evidence of Extreme Pressure (EP) additives damaging the bronze syncro rings in our gearboxes. 
    2. Laycock DeNormanville, the manufacturer of our overdrive units DO NOT specify what lubricant is used in their overdrive units, they leave that up to the manufacturer of the gearbox to which it is attached and shares its lubricant. EP oils will not adversely affect the overdrive unit, in fact 80/90 gear oil was the factory recommendation for the TR6 with either type of overdrive "A" or "J". 
Now back to regularly scheduled program :-) 

Michael S 
BN1 #174 

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Derek Job < [email-masked] > wrote: 

Derek 

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 4:06 PM, BJ8Healeys < [email-masked] > wrote: 

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Another question that will result in a lot of different opinions. I've always used 30-weight non-detergent oil in my gearbox and overdrive. Non-detergent according to the theory that because there is no oil filter in the system non-detergent oil allows any wear particles to settle out of the oil instead of being continuously circulated through the mechanicals. 

Steve Byers 

HBJ8L/36666 

BJ8 Registry 

AHCA Delegate at Large 

Havelock, NC 

From: Healeys [mailto: [email-masked] ] On Behalf Of Charlie Schott 

Will someone please tell me what weight of oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox with overdrive. Thanks. 

Regards, 

Charlie Schott 

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">What about the brass shifting forks? &=
nbsp;<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">This is one of the more lucid explana=
tions I've seen:&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"http://www.machinerylubrication.com=
/Read/28958/ep-additives-effects" style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">http://www.mac=
hinerylubrication.com/Read/28958/ep-additives-effects</a></div><div aria-la=
bel=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">IMO, it's p=
retty hard to beat this stuff:&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www.redlineoil.com/p=
roduct.aspx?pid=3D46&amp;pcid=3D7">https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?=
pid=3D46&amp;pcid=3D7</a>&nbsp; I tried it because it seemed my OD was slow=
er to engage when hot. &nbsp;I wasn't expecting it--so no confirmation bias=
--but I thought the gearbox shifted a little smoother, and the OD did engag=
e a little quicker. &nbsp;Have used it for 60-80K miles or more (I really s=
hould keep track of this stuff). &nbsp; Not an objective analysis, but it a=
ppears there is less brass 'shake' suspended in the fluid at changes, and I=
 only change it out every 50K miles or so.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose =
body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">On ATF in gearboxes: Ford =
calls for Mercon V in the Tremec 3650 in my Mustang. &nbsp;I thought shifts=
 were a little notchy, so tried Royal Purple Synchromax on someone's recomm=
endation. &nbsp;Seemed to help a bit; almost 122K miles on the gearbox with=
 no issues.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=
=3D"Compose body">Bob</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"co=
lor:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-fam=
ily:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #0=
00; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-fa=
mily: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Michael S=
alter" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Forum" &lt;healeys@au=
tox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 1, 2016 2:14:27 PM<br><b=
>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil<br><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;=
font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; f=
ont-size: small;">The subject of gearbox oils has be discussed on this list=
 more than once.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: c=
omic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">I am not advocating the use of =
gear oil in these boxes but the subject is sure to be raised again..<br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-ser=
if;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif=
; font-size: small;">In the interests of saving some band width a couple of=
 points.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic s=
ans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic san=
s ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;"><ol><li>&nbsp;No one has ever reported =
seeing any evidence of Extreme Pressure (EP) additives damaging the bronze =
syncro rings in our gearboxes.</li><li>&nbsp;Laycock DeNormanville, the man=
ufacturer of our overdrive units DO NOT specify what lubricant is used in t=
heir overdrive units, they leave that up to the manufacturer of the gearbox=
 to which it is attached and shares its lubricant.&nbsp; EP oils will not a=
dversely affect the overdrive unit, in fact 80/90 gear oil was the factory =
recommendation for the TR6 with either type of overdrive "A" or "J".<br></l=
i></ol></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans m=
s,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,=
sans-serif; font-size: small;">Now back to regularly scheduled program :-)<=
br><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:c=
omic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: com=
ic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:smal=
l" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: smal=
l;">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote">On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Derek Job <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; bor=
der-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">I agree with=
 Steve. I'm now using Penrite GB30 Gearbox oil.<div><br></div><div>Derek</d=
iv></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><di=
v class=3D"h5">On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 4:06 PM, BJ8Healeys <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; b=
order-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div=
 lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"m_-4732490693386536185m_4914191922555258792Wo=
rdSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 1=
1.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #002060;">Another question that=
 will result in a lot of different opinions.&nbsp; I've always used 30-weig=
ht non-detergent oil in my gearbox and overdrive.&nbsp; Non-detergent accor=
ding to the theory that because there is no oil filter in the system non-de=
tergent oil allows any wear particles to settle out of the oil instead of b=
eing continuously circulated through the mechanicals.<span data-mce-style=
=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></sp=
an><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decor=
ation: underline;"></span></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060" data-=
mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #00206=
0;"><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-deco=
ration: underline;"></span>&nbsp;<span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: u=
nderline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic=
 Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-fam=
ily: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #002060;">Steve Byers</span><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:=
#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-=
serif'; color: #002060;"><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline=
;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"tex=
t-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt=
; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #002060;">HBJ8L/36666</span><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calib=
ri','sans-serif'; color: #002060;"><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration:=
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yle=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"><=
/span></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-si=
ze: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #002060;">BJ8 Registry</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;;color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-fam=
ily: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #002060;"><span data-mce-style=3D"text-=
decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span><span =
data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: un=
derline;"></span></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060" data-mce-style=
=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #002060;">AHCA =
Delegate at Large</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-s=
ize: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #002060;"><span da=
ta-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: unde=
rline;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=
=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:=
#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';=
 color: #002060;">Havelock, NC&nbsp; </span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060" data=
-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color=
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ext-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration:=
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ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11=
.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #002060;"><span data-mce-=
style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"=
></span>&nbsp;<span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D=
"text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;col=
or:#002060" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans M=
S'; color: #002060;"><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" s=
tyle=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span>&nbsp;<span data-mce-style=3D"t=
ext-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></=
span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padd=
ing:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #b=
5c4df 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif=
';">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-b=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys-bo=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of <=
/b>Charlie Schott<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:45 AM<br><b>=
To:</b> Richard Kahn; Richard Ewald<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Gearbox=
 oil<span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-deco=
ration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underli=
ne;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div></div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" s=
tyle=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span>&nbsp;<span data-mce-style=3D"t=
ext-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></=
p><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" data-mce-style=3D"font-fami=
ly: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">Will someone please tell me what=
 weight of oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox with overdrive. Thanks.<span data-mc=
e-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline=
;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"tex=
t-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:black" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: bl=
ack;">&nbsp;<span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"t=
ext-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration:=
 underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri=
','sans-serif'; color: black;">Regards,<span data-mce-style=3D"text-decorat=
ion: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mc=
e-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline=
;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" data-mce-sty=
le=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">&nbsp;<span data-=
mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underli=
ne;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=3D"t=
ext-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;=
color:black" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: =
black;">Charlie Schott<span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" =
style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span><span data-mce-style=3D"text-d=
ecoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span></span>=
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bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" data-mce-style=3D"font-family=
: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">&nbsp;<span data-mce-style=3D"text=
-decoration: underline;" style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span><span=
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=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" dat=
a-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"></span><=
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FWIW, I've been 'testing' modern synthetics in my BJ8 gearbox, OD and diffe=
rential for 30+ years and over 100K miles. I still use dino oil in the engi=
ne as I only put 4-5K miles/year on it and change it 1/year and I don't thi=
nk the added expense of a syn is worth it, and I would change the oil at le=
ast 1/yr regardless of mileage.=20

----- Original Message -----

From: [email-masked]=20
To: "Chris Dimmock" <[email-masked]>=20
Cc: "healeys" <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 10:13:46 AM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Differential oil=20

Chris,=20

Yes, when the Owners Manual names a recommended type of oil I use it when I=
 still can get it, as this is what they used at the factory and they knew w=
hy they recommended it. Castrol or Penrite or Millers or even others still =
produce the right spec.mineral oil.=20

And these recommended oils kept my classic cars running for 50years plus. S=
o why shall I use different and perhaps ruin my gearbox, engine or rear axl=
e?=20

Sorry I still can=C2=B4t believe modern synthetic oils are tested in Austin=
-Healey engines, gearboxes and rear axles and are formulated to keep modern=
 engines/gearboxes/axles/etc. of a much different design running.=20

For me:=20

No synthetic oils in my classic cars!=20

I like to have crossplies fitted to my classic cars of the 50/60s, but that=
=C2=B4s my personal taste as for me it gives a period driving experience I =
like.=20

I can=C2=B4t get the original paint anymore, so I use modern paint matching=
 the original colour and appearance.=20

Sorry I do not fill in 50 year old air in the tyres (hard to get) and I hav=
e 2bars front and 2bars rear filled in.=20

And yes, I drive my Austin-Healeys, but not daily, as we also have modern c=
ars here to drive in daily madness. Much more confortable by the way and be=
tter suitable to my daily business.=20

Josef Eckert=20

Konigswinter/Germany=20

54BN1=20

62BT7=20

65Sprite=20

59 DaimlerSP250=20

50 Morris Minor Tourer=20

78 Mercedes 240D=20

and our modern Donkeys for daily business=20

-----Original-Nachricht-----=20

Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Differential oil=20

Datum: 2016-10-31T15:21:51+0100=20

Von: "Chris Dimmock" <[email-masked]>=20

An: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>=20

Hey Josef,=20
Your criticism and sarcastic posts have finally arced me up to respond.=20
So - if I'm reading your posts - from somewhere back in the 1950's - you do=
n't use anything that isn't in the owners manual, or the driver's handbook?=
=20
"And nothing else"=20
No synthetic oils?=20
No modern tires/ tyres?=20
No modern paint?=20
Is that your point? Nothing that is not in the manuals from 50 plus years a=
go?=20
Tyres? Tires?=20
Seriously?=20
Mk III drivers handbook=20
Radial-ply tyres (Dunlop SP41)=20
Tyres:=20
Size, 5.90 - 15 tubed.=20
Front, 20 lb. /sq. in=20
Rear, 25 lb. /sq. in=20
Maximum performance speeds:=20
increase all pressure by 5 lb./sq.in=20
So that's what you run on your Healey?=20

That's clearly only ok in your book if you use 1966 air. Modern air is clea=
rly not acceptable.=20
Those are your tyres?=20
Dunlop SP41=20
So your tyres are 50 plus years old.=20
http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page/dunlop-sp41=20
Seriously?=20
You whinge about this list every couple of years, because it's not technica=
l enough for you.=20
And yet you advocate not using oil designed or manufactured in the past 15 =
years?=20
So you run 50 plus year old tyres?=20
So why don't you write us a technical article advocating how oil/ tires/ ty=
res/ batteries/ etc have not changed /improved a Healey in the past 50 plus=
 years.=20
Do you drive your car Josef?=20
Seriously. You call yourself into account by criticizing people who use mod=
ern oil etc and drive their cars.=20
Write us a technical article.=20
Seriously.=20
Chris=20
www.myaustinhealey.com=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div>FWIW, I've been 'testing' modern synthetics in my BJ8 gearbox, OD =
and differential for 30+ years and over 100K miles. &nbsp;I still use dino =
oil in the engine as I only put 4-5K miles/year on it and change it 1/year =
and I don't think the added expense of a syn is worth it, and I would chang=
e the oil at least 1/yr regardless of mileage.</div><div><br></div><hr id=
=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;te=
xt-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">=
<b>From: </b>[email-masked]<br><b>To: </b>"Chris Dimmock" &lt;aus=
[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"healeys" &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, October 31, 2016 10:13:46 AM<br><b>Subject: </=
b>Re: [Healeys] Differential oil<br><div><br></div><title></title><p style=
=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Chris,<br></span></=
p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Yes, when t=
he Owners Manual names a recommended type of oil I use it when I still can =
get it, as this is what they used at the factory and they knew why they rec=
ommended it. Castrol or Penrite or Millers or even others still produce the=
 right spec.mineral oil. </span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">And these r=
ecommended oils kept my classic cars running for 50years plus. So why shall=
 I use different and perhaps ruin my gearbox, engine or rear axle?</span></=
p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Sorry I sti=
ll can=C2=B4t believe modern synthetic oils are tested in Austin-Healey eng=
ines, gearboxes and rear axles and are formulated to keep modern engines/ge=
arboxes/axles/etc.&nbsp; of a much different design running.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">For me:</sp=
an></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">No syntheti=
c oils in my classic cars!</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">I like to h=
ave crossplies fitted to my classic cars of the 50/60s, but that=C2=B4s my =
personal taste as for me it gives a period driving experience I like.</span=
></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">I&nbsp; can=
=C2=B4t get the original paint anymore, so I use modern paint matching the =
original colour and appearance.<br></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Sorry I do =
not fill in 50 year old air in the tyres (hard to get) and I have 2bars fro=
nt and 2bars rear filled in.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">And yes, I =
drive my Austin-Healeys, but not daily, as we also have modern cars here to=
 drive in daily madness. Much more confortable by the way and better suitab=
le to my daily business. </span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Josef Ecker=
t</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Konigswinte=
r/Germany</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">54BN1</span=
></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">62BT7</span=
></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">65Sprite</s=
pan></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">59 DaimlerS=
P250</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">50 Morris M=
inor Tourer</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">78 Mercedes=
 240D</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">and our mod=
ern Donkeys for daily business</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Differential oil</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2016-10-31T15:21:51+0100</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Chris Dimmock" &lt;[email-masked]&=
gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "[email-masked]" &lt;josef-eckert@t=
-online.de&gt;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">Hey Josef,</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">Your criticism and sarcastic posts=
 have finally arced me up to respond.&nbsp;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">So - if I'm reading your posts - f=
rom somewhere back in the 1950's - you don't use anything that isn't in the=
 owners manual, or the driver's handbook?</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">"And nothing else"</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">No synthetic oils?&nbsp;</span></d=
iv>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">No modern tires/ tyres?</span></di=
v>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">No modern paint?</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">Is that your point? Nothing that i=
s not in the manuals from 50 plus years ago?&nbsp;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">&nbsp;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">Tyres? Tires?&nbsp;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">Seriously?</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">&nbsp;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">Mk III drivers handbook</span></di=
v>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">Radial-ply tyres (Dunlop SP41)<br>=
&nbsp;Tyres:<br>Size, 5.90 - 15 tubed.<br>Front, 20 lb. /sq. in<br>Rear, 25=
 lb. /sq. in<br>Maximum performance speeds:<br>increase all pressure by 5 l=
b./sq.in&nbsp;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">&nbsp;</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;">So that's what you run on your Hea=
ley?</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: ;"><br></span>That's clearly only ok =
in your book if you use 1966 air. Modern air is clearly not acceptable.&nbs=
p;</div>
<div>Those are your tyres?&nbsp;</div>
<div>Dunlop SP41</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>So your tyres are 50 plus years old.&nbsp;</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page/dunlop-sp41" target=3D=
"_blank">http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page/dunlop-sp41</a></div>
<div>Seriously?&nbsp;</div>
<div>You whinge about this list every couple of years, because it's not tec=
hnical enough for you.&nbsp;</div>
<div>And yet you advocate not using oil designed or manufactured in the pas=
t 15 years?</div>
<div>So you run 50 plus year old tyres?</div>
<div>So why don't you write us a technical article advocating how oil/ tire=
s/ tyres/ batteries/ etc have not changed /improved a Healey in the past 50=
 plus years.&nbsp;</div>
<div>Do you drive your car Josef?</div>
<div>Seriously. You call yourself into account by criticizing people who us=
e modern oil etc and drive their cars.&nbsp;</div>
<div>Write us a technical article.&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Seriously.&nbsp;</div>
<div>Chris</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.myaustinhealey.com" target=3D"_blank">www.myaust=
inhealey.com</a></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 14:44:31 +0000 (UTC)

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I've given some thought to the "manufacturer's recommendations." I seriousl=
y doubt--but have no proof--that the manufacturers of engines, gearboxes an=
d differentials test all feasible brands and grades for suitability. They p=
robably have a policy--based on experience and maybe a cross-marketing agre=
ement (e.g. Castrol pays or otherwise encourages Jaguar to recommend their =
oils; just a theoretical example, no proof)--to recommend fluids they have =
been using with no adverse effects. For example, Tremec's recommendations f=
or their manual transmissions differ from Ford's (Ford recommends their ATF=
--big surprise). I doubt Ford tested all available ATFs and came up with pr=
oof theirs was the best, but they tried Mercon and it seemed to work fine a=
nd, oh, why not recommend your company's products?=20

One thing, for engine oil in particular, is to use the recommended viscosit=
y. The owner's manual recommended Motorcraft 5W-20 Semi-Synthetic; I had a =
bunch of 10W-30 on the shelf and briefly thought "Well, if 5W-20 is OK 10W-=
30 should be too--after all the numbers are bigger and bigger is better, ri=
ght?" Fortunately, I stuck with the 5W-20 and later came to find that the M=
odular engines have plastic, oil pressure-driven timing chain tensioners, a=
nd if you use a thicker oil the tensioners won't, well, tension as quickly =
at startup and the flopping about of the timing chains can break the tensio=
ner rails.=20

Bob=20

----- Original Message -----

Chris,=20

For me:=20

Josef Eckert=20

Konigswinter/Germany=20

54BN1=20

62BT7=20

65Sprite=20

59 DaimlerSP250=20

78 Mercedes 240D=20

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div>I've given some thought to the "manufacturer's recommendations." &=
nbsp;I seriously doubt--but have no proof--that the manufacturers of engine=
s, gearboxes and differentials test all feasible brands and grades for suit=
ability. &nbsp;They probably have a policy--based on experience and maybe a=
 cross-marketing agreement (e.g. Castrol pays or otherwise encourages Jagua=
r to recommend their oils; just a theoretical example, no proof)--to recomm=
end fluids they have been using with no adverse effects. &nbsp;For example,=
 Tremec's recommendations for their manual transmissions differ from Ford's=
 (Ford recommends their ATF--big surprise). &nbsp;I doubt Ford tested all a=
vailable ATFs and came up with proof theirs was the best, but they tried Me=
rcon and it seemed to work fine and, oh, why not recommend your company's p=
roducts?</div><div><br></div><div>One thing, for engine oil in particular, =
is to use the &nbsp;recommended viscosity. &nbsp;The owner's manual recomme=
nded Motorcraft 5W-20 Semi-Synthetic; I had a bunch of 10W-30 on the shelf =
and briefly thought "Well, if 5W-20 is OK 10W-30 should be too--after all t=
he numbers are bigger and bigger is better, right?" &nbsp; Fortunately, I s=
tuck with the 5W-20 and later came to find that the Modular engines have pl=
astic, oil pressure-driven timing chain tensioners, and if you use a thicke=
r oil the tensioners won't, well, tension as quickly at startup and the flo=
pping about of the timing chains can break the tensioner rails.</div><div><=
br></div><div>Bob</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr id=
=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;te=
xt-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">=
<b>From: </b>[email-masked]<br><b>To: </b>"Chris Dimmock" &lt;aus=
[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"healeys" &lt;[email-masked]=
&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, October 31, 2016 10:13:46 AM<br><b>Subject: </=
b>Re: [Healeys] Differential oil<br><div><br></div><title></title><p style=
=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Chris,<br></span></=
p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Yes, when t=
he Owners Manual names a recommended type of oil I use it when I still can =
get it, as this is what they used at the factory and they knew why they rec=
ommended it. Castrol or Penrite or Millers or even others still produce the=
 right spec.mineral oil. </span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">And these r=
ecommended oils kept my classic cars running for 50years plus. So why shall=
 I use different and perhaps ruin my gearbox, engine or rear axle?</span></=
p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">Sorry I sti=
ll can=C2=B4t believe modern synthetic oils are tested in Austin-Healey eng=
ines, gearboxes and rear axles and are formulated to keep modern engines/ge=
arboxes/axles/etc.&nbsp; of a much different design running.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">For me:</sp=
an></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">No syntheti=
c oils in my classic cars!</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">I like to h=
ave crossplies fitted to my classic cars of the 50/60s, but that=C2=B4s my =
personal taste as for me it gives a period driving experience I like.</span=
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">65Sprite</s=
pan></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">59 DaimlerS=
P250</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">50 Morris M=
inor Tourer</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">78 Mercedes=
 240D</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; text-decoration: none;">and our mod=
ern Donkeys for daily business</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"></p><div><br></div></div><div><br></div></div></b=
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 14:46:39 +0000 (UTC)

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Mine leaks about a quarter-quart of Redline every 5K miles or so. I can live with it. 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Team.net" <[email-masked]> 
To: "BJ8Healeys" <[email-masked]> 
Cc: "Ahealey help" <[email-masked]> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 11:20:27 AM 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox oil 

I tried Redline at one point and the gearbox leaked profusely. Changed back to 30wtnd and now only have the typical drips. 

Moral to the story: all our cars are different so what works for one may not work for others. 

On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:06 PM, BJ8Healeys < [email-masked] > wrote: 

From: Healeys [ mailto:[email-masked] ] On Behalf Of Charlie Schott 

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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><div>Mine leaks about a quarter-quart of Redline every 5K miles or so. =
&nbsp;I can live with it.</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=
=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;fo=
nt-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Team.ne=
t" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"BJ8Healeys" &lt;sbyers@e=
c.rr.com&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"Ahealey help" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br=
><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 1, 2016 11:20:27 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: =
[Healeys] Gearbox oil<br><div><br></div>I tried Redline at one point and th=
e gearbox leaked profusely. &nbsp;Changed back to 30wtnd and now only have =
the typical drips.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Mora=
l to the story: all our cars are different so what works for one may not wo=
rk for others.<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div><blockquote class=3D""><d=
iv class=3D"">On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:06 PM, BJ8Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" class=3D"" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div clas=
s=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; fon=
t-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: n=
ormal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-inden=
t: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spaci=
ng: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0=
001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0,=
 32, 96);" class=3D"">Another question that will result in a lot of differe=
nt opinions.&nbsp; I've always used 30-weight non-detergent oil in my gearb=
ox and overdrive.&nbsp; Non-detergent according to the theory that because =
there is no oil filter in the system non-detergent oil allows any wear part=
icles to settle out of the oil instead of being continuously circulated thr=
ough the mechanicals.</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; f=
ont-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span st=
yle=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, 32, 96)=
;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
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s=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color:=
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pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D""></=
span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-fa=
mily: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;=
 font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D"">HBJ8L/366=
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rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D"">BJ8 Registry</span><span style=3D"font-size: 11=
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span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-fa=
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S'; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D"">Havelock, NC&nbsp;<span class=3D"App=
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t-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D""></span></=
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Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-f=
amily: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span=
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family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11p=
t; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=3D"">&nbsp;<=
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rder-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in=
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font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span styl=
e=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</s=
pan></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" c=
lass=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Healeys [<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; text-d=
ecoration: underline;" class=3D"" target=3D"_blank">mailto:healeys-bounces@=
autox.team.net</a>]<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b cl=
ass=3D"">On Behalf Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b=
>Charlie Schott<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-c=
onverted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, November 01, 2016 9:45 AM<br class=3D=
""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>=
Richard Kahn; Richard Ewald<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=
=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subjec=
t:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Healeys] Gear=
box oil</span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; fon=
t-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</di=
v><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in=
 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" cla=
ss=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Will s=
omeone please tell me what weight of oil to use in a BJ8 gearbox with overd=
rive. Thanks.</span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0=
in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=
=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</=
span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; fo=
nt-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span sty=
le=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Regards,</span></div></=
div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt=
; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div class=
=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family:=
 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,=
 sans-serif;" class=3D"">Charlie Schott</span></div></div><div class=3D""><=
div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times=
 New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-s=
erif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"ma=
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rif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D=
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